Latest / Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo / Amber Rockey: Christian Ministry, Business, And Networking
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- 0:00Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
- 0:10defending biblical Christianity.
- 0:13No topic, off limits.
- 0:16And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
- 0:20Hello friends, family and Christ, thank you so much for listening and sharing the podcast
- 0:25and for those of you turning in and watching.
- 0:27Hello.
- 0:28I'm in studio guests, so we don't always have someone in studio, but whenever I find
- 0:33about someone that's doing something really interesting for the Lord, doing some great
- 0:36work locally, and that means we're in Wisconsin, right?
- 0:39I like to get them on.
- 0:40And so this is Amber Rocky, we're going to bring her on in a minute.
- 0:44The website is amber rocky rocky.com.
- 0:49And she's a creative entrepreneur and ministry-minded marketer.
- 0:53And she's passionate about helping others live out their calling in the marketplace.
- 0:58Through amberly creative and partnerships like the serve network and business with Christ,
- 1:05she's building spaces where faith and business come together to advance the kingdom of God.
- 1:10Now, I'm going to have her explain a lot of that as we hear her story, so Amber, welcome
- 1:14to World View Matters.
- 1:15Hi.
- 1:16Thank you so much.
- 1:17Thanks for having me.
- 1:18And good to have you in studio.
- 1:19Yeah.
- 1:20We haven't.
- 1:21We've only had a couple since we had a new studio built here.
- 1:24We, I think you're like the third maybe, not how a lot of people, and usually we do it
- 1:28via Zoom, but this is good to actually have a face and someone right here.
- 1:31So let's start with you do a lot.
- 1:34And I want to give the websites because there's so many websites that you're involved
- 1:38with.
- 1:39One of them, we already gave the amber rocky.com, but there's also Kingdom Marketplace.life,
- 1:46Kingdom Marketplace.life.
- 1:49And friends, I'm going to have her explain these.
- 1:50There's ServWisconsin, that's ServWi.com.
- 1:56And then there's modernday.org, modernday.org.
- 2:02So we're going to walk through these one at a time, and we're going to start with Kingdom
- 2:06Marketplace.
- 2:07But before we do that, your story, I didn't know about you.
- 2:12And recently I was in a meeting several months ago, I think, at least now, with a couple
- 2:17pastors and a couple Christian business owners and leaders in the community.
- 2:22And your name came up and you were doing a website for this person and I thought, what
- 2:27is she do?
- 2:28And so you do websites for missionaries or for ministries.
- 2:33Sometimes you get paid, sometimes you do them for free.
- 2:36So before we get to that, because I think that's very interesting for people to know, how
- 2:41did the Lord work in your life to start going down this road and this path and how long
- 2:46have you been doing that?
- 2:48Sure.
- 2:49Well, thank you again for having me.
- 2:51So I guess I would go back to when I was saved, because that's really when it all began.
- 2:59I had grown up in church and I knew about the Lord, but I did not submit to the Lord
- 3:05until about seven years ago.
- 3:08And I had done what most prodigals do, really just got to the end of myself and was in
- 3:14a very dark place and had a friend suggest to me that she thinks it's time for me to
- 3:20go back to church and I was like, yeah, that checks out.
- 3:25And I just went immediately and I had enough experience with church and with the Lord to
- 3:30know that he would speak to me there, but I had no idea that my life was about to change.
- 3:37And so I had gone to just a small local church and there was a guest speaker there that
- 3:46day and he said these words that changed my life and they were, everybody wants Jesus
- 3:52to be their savior, but not everybody wants them to be their Lord.
- 3:57That's so good.
- 3:58That is so good.
- 4:00Think about that for a minute.
- 4:02Everybody wants a savior, but Lord means we submit our lives.
- 4:07To his authority, his Lordship.
- 4:09Go ahead.
- 4:10Yeah, so those words really like broke open my heart and it is really the Lordship of
- 4:16Jesus Christ that saved me and completely changed me.
- 4:19I knew right in that moment that I was never going to be the same.
- 4:23I belong to a church now.
- 4:25I follow the Lord now.
- 4:27And then obviously, you know, it takes a while for everything else in your life to get
- 4:32into order, but it was very much in the beginning there.
- 4:36So I've been a website developer and in the marketing field for almost 20 years now.
- 4:44And so it was, I see how God was like preparing me for the work that He had for me.
- 4:51I didn't initially go to school for a website development, but it was my employer at the
- 4:56time who had encouraged me to start working with websites.
- 5:04So I had these skills and I was like, I want to use them.
- 5:07And I had this vision, this idea that you know what I want to make websites for churches,
- 5:13for missions, for ministries and things like that.
- 5:18And then I just really didn't see like the pathway to that.
- 5:23I'm really sort of first generation Christian and so there's, I have a lot of like examples
- 5:28although I have been surrounded by an amazing body of Christ.
- 5:33But yeah, so I kind of had that in the back of my mind and then still continued in the
- 5:40corporate worlds for several more years.
- 5:45And I was very blessed in that avenue.
- 5:48But the Lord just kept kind of like pulling me towards different things.
- 5:53And so I had briefly mentioned before we started that I make prayer journals.
- 6:00And that was really like one of the first things that was a practical application.
- 6:04So did you do that before you started doing websites for people?
- 6:08Yeah.
- 6:09Well, you know what, let's mention that.
- 6:10That's over on your website amber rocky dot com.
- 6:14And there's a tab my journals, prayer journals.
- 6:17And so if this was one of the first things you did, I want you to just, how can people
- 6:20get those on the website on Amazon?
- 6:23Yep, so they are available on Amazon.
- 6:26But there's links to all of the Amazon items right on my website.
- 6:33And so really when the Lord saved me, he took something that was, I was already doing
- 6:40which was writing and journaling, just writing everything down and he redeemed it.
- 6:45Really like strengthened and grew my relationship with him through journaling.
- 6:50And so it's so important to me and I just know that it can be great for other people
- 6:56as well.
- 6:57Yep.
- 6:58So I, I set out to make a journal that was like, how would I, like, how do I want, like
- 7:05what do I want to write, what do I want to do in a journal?
- 7:08And it's basically, you know, it's start, they always start with reading the scripture,
- 7:13maybe finding some scripture that to meditate on each day.
- 7:18So this is not just journaling.
- 7:20This is kind of like having a little scripture for a devotional thought and then writing
- 7:25out.
- 7:26Is that correct?
- 7:27Yep.
- 7:28Yeah.
- 7:29So read the word, meditate on the word, write, you know, like your thoughts and it might
- 7:33be, it might be about that word or it just might be about, you know, what's going on
- 7:39in life.
- 7:41And then, and then always ending in prayer.
- 7:44And I found that so powerful because I can look back on the prayers that I've written
- 7:48and it's like, wow, like to see how God has like come through and answered so many prayers
- 7:53and to see how my prayers have changed over time.
- 7:55It's really been a blessing.
- 7:56So I want to ask you about, there's a four of them here, the Gospel of Matthew, then
- 8:01there's Mark, Luke and John, there's four separate journals.
- 8:05You've got women's journal, you've got men's journal and one called warrior prayer journal.
- 8:10So just briefly differentiate, tell us about those.
- 8:13Yep.
- 8:15And the men's journals were the first ones and they really follow the format that I
- 8:19just described.
- 8:21And then the Gospel series is a book that's like a daily chapter through each Gospel and
- 8:28it gives space to like make observations and make notes, really digging and study.
- 8:35And then also, these also have some little bit more unique pages in them where it could
- 8:41be like, maybe draw, visually draw your favorite parable that was talked about in this book
- 8:51or something that helps you to like apply this word in a more creative way that helps the
- 8:57word hide in our hearts.
- 9:00Well, I think we need more journals like the warrior journal, that really is appealing
- 9:06to me because we talk on this podcast a lot about spiritual warfare and the role as Christians,
- 9:14not just to be strong in prayer, but to be able to be out in culture and impacting culture
- 9:19as light for Christ.
- 9:21And we need to worry your spirit in this day and age because there's so tell us about
- 9:25that one.
- 9:26Yep.
- 9:27So that one does that all of my journals are really, they're not really like leading because
- 9:33I believe that the Holy Spirit is sufficient to teach us and lead us in all things.
- 9:38And so that one is really about, like I said before, reading your Bible, meditating on
- 9:45the Bible, seeking God, praying and seeking God to, for that direction and to teach us.
- 9:53Okay, awesome.
- 9:54So you can link on your website, amberrocky.com, rocky.com, and you can get the link to Amazon
- 10:03as well.
- 10:04Love the pictures there of the different things.
- 10:06So let's go back now to King the Marketplace.
- 10:08That was one of the first things that I, I thought was someone explained that to me about
- 10:13what you do.
- 10:14Yep.
- 10:15And I'm looking at Christian-owned businesses on this site.
- 10:18Now these are partners or explain to us the marketplace.
- 10:22Now this is locally, this is not nationally, right?
- 10:24Yeah.
- 10:25But there's a lot of Christian businesses that don't know how to get connected with others,
- 10:29don't know who to partner with.
- 10:31And they're not really promoted in a certain place.
- 10:33Tell us about how this came together.
- 10:35Yeah, so thank you for asking about this.
- 10:38This was actually a vision that I had received about how beautiful and blessed it is to support
- 10:48our Christian brothers and sisters.
- 10:50And there's so, there's, there's too much to get into about how this was laid on my
- 10:57heart.
- 10:58But I, I found partnership with Sherry Bible from the Serve Network.
- 11:04And this, so this, I want to say, this project or effort was built up to create an online
- 11:13resource or listing for Christian-owned businesses to, for, and as a free resource for Christians
- 11:22to be able to seek out and support those Christian-owned businesses.
- 11:27In addition to that, we also have a directory listing of local Christian schools.
- 11:34And so.
- 11:35Excellent.
- 11:36Yeah, there was a, there's a bridge there from the Christian Educator's Expo that kind
- 11:41of, yeah, we'll talk about, but so we have the schools on there, we have the businesses.
- 11:48And then the next phase of this, which we'll be rolling out in 2026 is the local Christian
- 11:55ministries.
- 11:57And with, I mean, I have a whole mind map for this thing, but with future, future opportunities
- 12:04to share enrichment activities and outreach opportunities or volunteer opportunities for
- 12:11people just to be engaged and involved in the culture.
- 12:15That's awesome.
- 12:16So, the one, one that jumped out at me is jerky for Jesus.
- 12:20Oh, do you know jerky for Jesus?
- 12:22So, so it's beef jerky and yes, yes, the proceeds to missions or what is how's that
- 12:27work?
- 12:28Yeah, so jerky for Jesus is a new company and it, I'm actually particularly fond of it
- 12:36because I have been working with the owner Brian Walder and helping him launch his business.
- 12:41So I just created a new website for him, a lot of marketing materials.
- 12:46But he's got his own story and anyways, he is selling really great beef jerky and it
- 12:52is like catching on so fast and he has packaging, has the, it's all about Christ and he wants
- 13:02to see the gospel spread through something that he feels called to and so he does fundraising
- 13:09opportunities for schools and he also donates 10% of his profits to feeding the hungry.
- 13:15So is he, does he have a storefront or is this online, a mail order jerky business?
- 13:19Yeah, so he is online right now and then I'm sure I don't want to speak for him but
- 13:27I'm sure he is, he would be eager to have his product in like retail stores.
- 13:31Well, check into that a little bit.
- 13:34Check into jerky for Jesus and right under that lighthouse Christian books.
- 13:38I know the owners there and I know the manager Matt, they've got my books in that store
- 13:44there in Green Bay, Green Bay, Wisconsin on United Street.
- 13:47So the mission of Kingdom Marketplace, did you kind of already define that a little bit
- 13:53you wanted to connect Christian business as business owners in the community and get
- 13:57them promoted and networked?
- 14:00Yes, yeah, yeah, so and then speaking of networks.
- 14:04So the Kingdom Marketplace, I'm in partnership with the Serve Network which is a transition
- 14:09of that.
- 14:10Yep.
- 14:11And then also business with Christ which is a, it is a networking group out of the Depeer
- 14:19Chamber and they are meeting monthly to get together business owners or Christian professionals
- 14:26are getting together and it's so blessed.
- 14:28They're talking about topics like current event type topics and how do we lead as Christian
- 14:34business leaders, business owners.
- 14:37And the current age and this current climate and it's just, it's been wonderful.
- 14:43And so we are partnering with them for the networking arm of this thing.
- 14:48And yeah, if on the Kingdom Marketplace website, on the bottom of the homepage, there's
- 14:54a form to sign up to be informed about upcoming business with Christ meetings.
- 14:59That's awesome.
- 15:00And on the bottom of Serve Wisconsin, that's S-E-R-V-E-W-I, servewi.com, the mission
- 15:07to connect and equip Christian leaders to fulfill the great commandment and great commission.
- 15:13Excellent.
- 15:14That should be all of our, you know, mission personally in our sphere of influence.
- 15:18But this is great.
- 15:19And I live and appear.
- 15:21So anything else about Serve Wisconsin's that do want to get to the Christian educators
- 15:27Expo before we run out of time?
- 15:29Yep.
- 15:30That's a great segue.
- 15:32The Serve Network or, yeah, Serve Wisconsin, the Serve Network, I might have kind of given
- 15:39an overview, but they are bringing together ministry leaders in the Green Bay area.
- 15:45And she brings to, she, by she, I mean, Sherry Byroll is the leader of the Serve Network.
- 15:53And she brings together ministry leaders to really share about their ministries and
- 15:59how they're doing and give praises to like, you know, God for provision and everything
- 16:06else.
- 16:08And those are really cool.
- 16:10An off-shoot of the Serve Network is the serve Christian educators.
- 16:17And it's like a group or a committee where Christian educators can come together and discuss
- 16:25similar topics.
- 16:27And so I got involved with that because I was on the school board for Grace Christian
- 16:32Academy.
- 16:33I am not myself an educator, but I do care a lot about Christian education and our children
- 16:42in this nation.
- 16:44So I do want to mention Jeremy Johnson is a mutual friend.
- 16:48Yeah.
- 16:49He's a friend of mine, friend of yours.
- 16:50And he's with Grace Christian Academy out of Green Bay, Wisconsin for those of you that
- 16:54haven't heard of Grace Christian Academy.
- 16:56Yeah.
- 16:57And they also partner with Freedom Project Academy.
- 16:59Yes, they do.
- 17:00Here in this building.
- 17:01The other side of the building there.
- 17:03Yep.
- 17:04So Grace Christian Academy is 3K through 12, non-denominational Christian school in Green
- 17:09Bay.
- 17:10And they are very discipleship focused.
- 17:14And they care a lot about unity.
- 17:15So you'll see a lot of the people at GCA are involved in things that are bringing the
- 17:22community together, including the Christian Educators Expo, which we started then last
- 17:27year was our first year.
- 17:30We met at the cup of joy in January.
- 17:34And we brought together several Christian schools from the Green Bay area and some other,
- 17:42and also I'm sorry, also home school groups.
- 17:45So it's all education.
- 17:48And then also supplemental education and post-secondary education.
- 17:53And so, and it's all Christian focused.
- 17:56We have keynote speakers and we do have keynote speakers for this year, but I just didn't
- 18:01get that information in time to update it.
- 18:03Yeah, we have to mention this is in January.
- 18:05Yep.
- 18:06So this will be our second year this year.
- 18:10And it's free to the public to just come there and you can walk around booths and they've
- 18:18got like prizes and you can just learn about all the different education options that are
- 18:24available right here in our community.
- 18:26And there are a lot.
- 18:27I think there's a lot that people would be surprised about.
- 18:30People locally maybe that have young children or their school age and they don't know about
- 18:35all these options, right?
- 18:37Yeah.
- 18:38Yep.
- 18:39Yeah.
- 18:40So in partnership with this, we put together on the Kingdom Marketplace a listing of
- 18:44the local Christian schools.
- 18:47I don't think it's exhaustive because I found more, but I also on that website, if you
- 18:55get a chance to look at it, it has a link on there that compares the schools and I was
- 18:59just comparing it by things like what's a nomination they are, what their teaching style
- 19:04is, how many students they have.
- 19:08It's going by fast and there's other information to get out.
- 19:13One day missions, you are a registered 501-C3.
- 19:18So the average person that doesn't know about what you do, you're doing websites, why are
- 19:22you a 501-C3?
- 19:24Can you explain that?
- 19:25Yeah.
- 19:27So back when I started and I was telling you about the mission that the Lord had given
- 19:33me to serve ministries and missions with my talents, I had that passion in my heart
- 19:43and then a friend of mine had suggested that I look up a mutual friend.
- 19:50His name is Dave Weed and he runs Outward Heart, which is an organization that similarly
- 19:57serves ministries and missions and they do a lot of event planning, branding, design
- 20:06work and everything.
- 20:08I went and I looked on his website and I was really surprised to see two things, one
- 20:15that what God had laid on my heart can be done and two, that if I don't do it, he's
- 20:22going to use somebody else to do it and so and then I went to another page on his site
- 20:27and it said he was looking for somebody with my exact skill set.
- 20:32So I just had to reach out and like let's have a conversation.
- 20:36So I immediately started working with Dave while I was still in my corporate job, I started
- 20:42working together with him and started working on projects and now like with Outward Heart
- 20:49I've done projects like the Community Warehouse which is an organization down in Milwaukee
- 20:56area that runs a warehouse, sorry it's a prison rehabilitation ministry and they give jobs
- 21:04to people and then in the warehouse where they sell these supplies that goes to support
- 21:11the ministry or the mission.
- 21:14Also be still retreats which is Central Wisconsin and they do retreats for free for ministry
- 21:24leaders and pastors to help combat burnouts so they give space for them to go and get away
- 21:31for free.
- 21:32It's a beautiful one.
- 21:35That's great.
- 21:37So many needed things that you're describing go ahead.
- 21:41So I've been working with Outward Heart and then about a year and a half ago in one of
- 21:48those projects that I was working on I was listening to a sermon and I just really felt
- 21:55compelled that you know God put this on my heart like five years ago and in another
- 22:00five years I could be sitting here saying the same thing and so I went for it and I put
- 22:06in my notice at my corporate job and I was really going for trying to seek full support
- 22:15to just be able to provide for ministries and not have to charge anything but meanwhile
- 22:23the Lord has really provided for me in my for-profit avenue which is Amber Lee creative
- 22:30like a prayer journals and things like that.
- 22:32Yep and so I do work with some like organizations more corporately with their marketing social
- 22:38media marketing and a lot of their web their web stuff.
- 22:45So yeah so I've been supported that way and so anybody who supports me like if you don't
- 22:50have a ministry and but you're still interested in web support just know that in the end
- 22:57that does still support kingdom work because I'm doing it whether or not I get the you
- 23:04know the nonprofit type support for it.
- 23:07So this kind of explains at the very beginning we mentioned that sometimes you get paid
- 23:11to do these websites for Christian ministries and sometimes you don't you do them for free
- 23:15and I asked well how do how can you afford to do them for free because you get donations
- 23:19yeah.
- 23:20Okay so if people wanted to find out more about that is that amber rocky dot com medium
- 23:25ministry.
- 23:26Yeah you will find out more about that on that page and then also to support that you
- 23:35you can support through modern day which I wanted to explain I did not create the modern
- 23:41day website but I I'm affiliated through modern day so okay so that's where I hold my
- 23:47nonprofit status through that's the modern day dot org okay so gosh there's just so
- 23:55much we've just got three minutes left so what what do you see coming like in the future
- 24:01do you are you branching out any more sounds like you're doing so many different things
- 24:04already yeah what's on the agenda for you like going going into the next year perhaps
- 24:10well I think plans I'm eager to see kingdom marketplace continue to grow and to see
- 24:17you know like what happens with that as I had mentioned before I'm working with Jay Zoller
- 24:23on Ford Wisconsin which his effort to see Christians impact culture and change you know
- 24:33the project through the projectory okay so we need to mention this right now because that's
- 24:37what got me connected to amber yeah because we I met with Jay Zoller and some other a couple
- 24:43handful of pastors and other Christian business owners we talked about this we talked about his
- 24:47plans and trying to get Wisconsin Christians engage in this battle salt and light the the
- 24:54basic principles of Christians being salt and light in our communities and I just wanted to
- 24:58to mention that is so important and just the fact that your your name came up and you're helping him
- 25:04in that respect as far as the website so we're really hoping that we get more and more people
- 25:08involved Christian not only the business owners but people who want to get out in the public
- 25:13and engage and get Christians educated and informed I just did a podcast recently on the
- 25:19biblical worldview slide decline that we've been seeing in the last several decades it's really sad
- 25:27people that say their Christians and they don't fully understand the Bible or the application of
- 25:33it that means getting out of church on a Sunday and impacting their communities or their workplace
- 25:38or their culture Monday through Saturday so I was going to read this quote but it's a little too long
- 25:44so I would just want to get the the last minute to wrap it up with you what do you want to encourage
- 25:50people you know we got a bigger nationwide audience than locally I think but we do have more and
- 25:55more people from Wisconsin finding out about worldview matters and locally what do you want to say
- 26:01to people locally to encourage them maybe even to get them connected with you and what you're doing
- 26:09yeah well I mean I would love for people to connect with me on amber rocky dot com or kingdom
- 26:16marketplace dot life any of those ways honestly would be great to share with me tell me about like
- 26:24what you're doing because I love hearing about how God is moving and and he's doing so many good
- 26:32things I think that there's a lot of negativity that goes around or like we think you know that maybe
- 26:38things are a little hopeless they're not yes and I see the kingdom growing and just I would just
- 26:46encourage people in that but also you know what follow what God has called you to do because he's
- 26:53made us all with the unique purpose and we're all different and our purposes are all different and
- 27:00and yeah he can just be glorified in so many ways amen amen and we you know we've just got to get
- 27:06back out there friends if you haven't been out really reaching people the gospel in fact I
- 27:11we have a couple seconds left I really wanted to go over and just remind people of why we're doing
- 27:16this that if you confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him
- 27:20from the dead you will be saved for with the heart a person believes resulting in salvation
- 27:27resulting in righteousness and with the mouth he confesses resulting in salvation and whoever calls
- 27:32upon the name of the Lord will be saved Jesus is Lord that's from Romans chapter 10 amber rocky thank
- 27:38you for coming in today so good to meet you God bless you and all you're doing I'm sure people
- 27:42get in touch with your friends thank you for sharing the podcast and for your prayers especially
- 27:46God bless you and as always keep speaking the truth about things that matter