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Inside the Mathis Family: What Growing Up Was Really Like | Ep. 1 · Mathis Family Talks

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  Speaker 1: I have a question who had it the hardest growing up?
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  Speaker 2: Me?
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  Speaker 3: Me?
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  Speaker 4: For sure?
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  Speaker 1: Me.
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  Speaker 5: But I had an easy, breezy upbringing upbringing with these crooks,
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  Speaker 5: with these.
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  Speaker 6: People, I would say I had it the hardest, for sure.
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  Speaker 6: I became a mom at the age of two years old.
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  Speaker 6: How do you How would you feel if you had
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  Speaker 6: to raise you.
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  Speaker 7: Became your own bad boy?
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  Speaker 2: You had?
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  Speaker 8: She had to raise y'all taking care of you guys.
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  Speaker 7: Upon herself.
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  Speaker 4: No, I it was my responsibility.
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  Speaker 5: I agree with you. I agree with you, Bobby. She
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  Speaker 5: took it upon herself.
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  Speaker 7: Difficult.
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  Speaker 6: Mom was there, I know, but she didn't get out
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  Speaker 6: of inside scoop. I used to hear the stuff, and
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  Speaker 6: I had to go follow you all around and make
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  Speaker 6: sure y'all were safe, and I had to go tell
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  Speaker 6: on all.
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  Speaker 2: Of y'all work. It was just really.
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  Speaker 4: Because they Can you imagine yourself?
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  Speaker 9: You gotta and then I wanna be mom that told
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  Speaker 9: on you and try to tell you.
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  Speaker 7: What to do.
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  Speaker 6: Can you imagine if I wasn't how many times I
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  Speaker 6: saved your life and responsible?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, now, y'all gotta tell me some of this?
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  Speaker 7: What what?
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  Speaker 10: Why don't you protect them from? That's all right? I
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  Speaker 10: let it stay in the past. I'm Judge Greg.
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  Speaker 8: Mathews and I am Linda Matthis.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Matthews' Family Talks.
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  Speaker 8: So you open up some of these stories.
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  Speaker 9: What that does made me think about the time the
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  Speaker 9: few times I've almost lost my life, but I remember
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  Speaker 9: Granddad saved my life when I took it upon myself
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  Speaker 9: apparently to make a peanut butter and jelly sound bingo
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  Speaker 9: chips and you put the bingo.
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  Speaker 8: Chips in their team.
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  Speaker 4: And that was the one time I wasn't watching what happened.
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  Speaker 8: Yep, Mommy wasn't there either. Tomorrow I'm gonna tell you.
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  Speaker 7: Who wait, we haven't told people what the story is.
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  Speaker 4: First you were choking on bingo chips and peanut butter.
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  Speaker 8: Tell the story.
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  Speaker 9: From what I I don't remember it, to be honest
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  Speaker 9: with y'all. So Mom, you might be mom or Dad
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  Speaker 9: might be better to tell it. But from what I
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  Speaker 9: recall is I took it upon myself as a toddler
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  Speaker 9: for some reason.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know where.
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  Speaker 9: My mom and I guess my second mom Camaro were,
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  Speaker 9: but to make a peanut butter sandwich with Bingo chips
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  Speaker 9: inside of it. And of course I started choking on
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  Speaker 9: it as I try and eat all this because peanut
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  Speaker 9: butter the bread is dry, and so apparently I was
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  Speaker 9: blue in the face, and they're trying to do what
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  Speaker 9: is it called the Heimlick maneuver, and all this stuff.
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  Speaker 7: Nothing's working.
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  Speaker 10: Had I tried sticking my finger and your throat trying
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  Speaker 10: to pull it out.
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  Speaker 2: That was wrong.
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  Speaker 10: So Granddad puts it into the Heimlick maneuver and it works.
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  Speaker 4: I thought the finger works behind.
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  Speaker 2: That finger down. Don't ever do that. You're pushing further down,
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  Speaker 2: so you're almost whatever.
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  Speaker 4: Man, I know that's traumatized.
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  Speaker 8: Oh well, when I got home, I was traumatized.
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  Speaker 1: You heard the story.
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  Speaker 8: You read the mall.
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  Speaker 2: I thought I was.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, when I got home. I think they had ambulance
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  Speaker 8: to the hospital.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's get back to the question. I was
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  Speaker 2: about to start crying.
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  Speaker 9: The reckless child growing up that you didn't need to mothers,
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  Speaker 9: thank you, thank you.
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  Speaker 6: I was doing the one mother in the back up
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  Speaker 6: eighteen months old came to mom, Hey, that was that.
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  Speaker 8: Was a fun conversation. Welcome to Matthews family talks.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for having us.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, but the kids do that? What's tea? Or is
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  Speaker 4: it clockett. I don't know.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, I have no idea.
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  Speaker 4: I try not.
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  Speaker 8: I try not to, you know, immulate any of those things.
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  Speaker 2: I want to know.
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  Speaker 8: I know he does.
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  Speaker 2: I want to know.
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  Speaker 10: I'm going to do it on TV and any new
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  Speaker 10: kids stuff for.
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  Speaker 4: They get embarrassed by me. Now you want to say
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  Speaker 4: six what is it?
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  Speaker 8: Six seven?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, six seven, it's not that that's gone.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Linda mathis Lindare to my husband Grave that's right,
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  Speaker 5: l Y to my daughter Kamari, mommy to my daughter Jay,
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  Speaker 5: my son Gregory, and.
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  Speaker 8: I'm miss Linda to my son in law.
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  Speaker 4: You can drop the miss.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like what you are to a mere. Who
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  Speaker 2: are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: Mirr o meir, Mommy, that's disrespectful.
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  Speaker 8: He does, and you just say something. He calls me.
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  Speaker 5: He's trying to get my mom mom. You know that's
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  Speaker 5: why I said l Y too, like sometimes I don't
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  Speaker 5: answer to mom because I've been hearing that all the time.
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  Speaker 8: I get it, so I get the l Y. I
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  Speaker 8: get up Linda, and.
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  Speaker 1: Of course I get the Linda.
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  Speaker 5: So that's who I am. And then we have right here,
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  Speaker 5: come on, did you have my husband here?
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  Speaker 10: My name is greg Matthews someone some call me a judge.
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  Speaker 10: Glad to be here today. I hope this opportunity that
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  Speaker 10: we're taking to spread this message of hope and inspirational
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  Speaker 10: family life for all of those who are listening around
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  Speaker 10: the world.
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  Speaker 6: Right all right now, I'm Camora Tomorrow Matthews web. I
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  Speaker 6: want this show to be something that inspires everyone.
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  Speaker 3: And of course, you know I got to stop you
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  Speaker 3: right now. We got to go from oldest to youngest.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you just.
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  Speaker 11: Buddy person person person.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, you got to be in the room.
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  Speaker 11: In person, out of person, speak of the youngest. Continue, Kamara, No,
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  Speaker 11: I'm kidding. I am the first board, Jay matthis esquire
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  Speaker 11: may know.
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  Speaker 4: What do you think this show is about. I think
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  Speaker 4: this show.
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  Speaker 11: Is about showing the real, authentic us and how we
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  Speaker 11: get along and how we just come together as family,
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  Speaker 11: how we fight his family, how we love his family,
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  Speaker 11: and how we just have a good time. And you
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  Speaker 11: are seeing more of us as a family and as individuals.
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  Speaker 4: All right, I'm Kamara mathis.
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  Speaker 1: Now I'll go next because I'm more entertaining.
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  Speaker 8: You change in the order.
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  Speaker 12: I'm the producer here're always trying to change something.
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  Speaker 6: Go ahead, I am Kamara Mathis well, and I think
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  Speaker 6: this show it's about my mom finally sharing her advice
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  Speaker 6: and for yours with the world.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like you have some billions. Yes, you have
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  Speaker 4: so much.
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  Speaker 6: Knowledge to share, and I'm glad people get to see
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  Speaker 6: another side of you, all right, the other side of
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  Speaker 6: us as well.
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  Speaker 4: But I love that this show. I love this side
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  Speaker 4: of you.
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  Speaker 13: Yes, Attorney Kamara mathis, yes, yes.
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  Speaker 1: Please let him know. Greg you can speak now, come on, son.
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  Speaker 7: Mission, I appreciate it. My name is Greg Mathis Junior.
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  Speaker 9: And I think this show is about, like Jade said,
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  Speaker 9: like Kamara said, like my mom said, showing people you
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  Speaker 9: know us as a family, just who we truly are
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  Speaker 9: as people, and putting ourselves out there for an opportunity
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  Speaker 9: for others to connect with us and for us to
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  Speaker 9: connect with you in an authentic way and us to
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  Speaker 9: really learn and talk through some of life's challenges. I
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  Speaker 9: think it will also be interesting for you all to
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  Speaker 9: continue to see more of the family that stands behind
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  Speaker 9: the judge you see on TV and maybe find out
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  Speaker 9: why he is so colorful through each and every one of.
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  Speaker 5: Us, or maybe the other way around, why we are
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  Speaker 5: so colorful.
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  Speaker 8: Both Elliott, let's hear from.
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  Speaker 12: You, and you kind of skipped one a mere right, Sorry,
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  Speaker 12: but I guess you know.
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  Speaker 7: The baby gets cut out always.
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  Speaker 3: My name is Amir Mathis, the youngest of the Mathis family.
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  Speaker 3: I'm also the producer of this show. What I envision
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  Speaker 3: of this show truly is a show where we teach
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  Speaker 3: people things, and we also are taught things. So I
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  Speaker 3: look forward to having, you know, experts come on the show.
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  Speaker 3: I look forward to having friends and family who can
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  Speaker 3: share their insight into their lives. People who you know,
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  Speaker 3: interesting people that we know and that we meet who
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  Speaker 3: can also share their perspective and lives and we can
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  Speaker 3: learn from and also, you know, teach people a way
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  Speaker 3: of life. And so I'm excited for this journey. And
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  Speaker 3: it's fun doing this with family, of course.
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  Speaker 10: All right, okay, we're still leaving Elliott.
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  Speaker 14: All hey, I'm Elliott. I agree with everybody's concept of
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  Speaker 14: the show. I am here to enjoy myself. I got
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  Speaker 14: my my popcorn, my cashews and candy because I know
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  Speaker 14: it's gonna be good entertainment all the time.
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  Speaker 1: So let's rope, all right, son in law.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't talk about what I thought the show was about.
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  Speaker 5: And I think what I want to show is that
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  Speaker 5: we're a loving black family. I think people need to
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  Speaker 5: see that. And we share our thoughts and our values
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  Speaker 5: and our ideas. And one thing people need to understand
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  Speaker 5: is that we all have different thoughts and ideas. We're
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  Speaker 5: gonna come together and you aren't gonna see much arguing,
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  Speaker 5: am I right?
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  Speaker 13: Right?
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  Speaker 6: I cannot guarantee that you'll I like to say the
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  Speaker 6: word debate, Okay, debate, Okay, you will see some debate then.
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  Speaker 4: I mean that's the family table, yes, because.
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  Speaker 8: We all have different ideas, a lot, a lot of
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  Speaker 8: dependent opinions.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 10: Following up on what saying, I that's exactly what one
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  Speaker 10: of the main goals is to provide a role map.
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  Speaker 10: That's essentially what Emir and Linda are saying in terms
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  Speaker 10: of sharing our experiences, our life experiences.
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  Speaker 2: And our reality.
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  Speaker 10: You know, y'all know that I That's all I do
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  Speaker 10: on my show is talk about my life experiences because
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  Speaker 10: it gives people insight, It gives them a role map,
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  Speaker 10: gives them information, gives some hope.
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  Speaker 2: And the lord.
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  Speaker 10: Y'all think I'm preaching, So I'm gonna go ahead and
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  Speaker 10: do the preaching like I'm supposed to want to join,
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  Speaker 10: but no, that's that's right. That's an excellent observation of
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  Speaker 10: what this is about.
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  Speaker 8: Or I think what you need to understand.
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  Speaker 5: You all are going to have your stories, but you're
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  Speaker 5: from Detroit, and Detroit is a political town.
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  Speaker 8: So when dad was a.
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  Speaker 5: Judge, that was big and so we were a big family.
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  Speaker 5: Then you all probably didn't know that, but we were known.
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  Speaker 6: So it's interesting is that I would say growing up
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  Speaker 6: in Detroit, and I always tell people that, I mean,
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  Speaker 6: tell people about Detroit that there's so many successful black people.
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  Speaker 6: It's a city that's ninety percent black, and like people
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  Speaker 6: think about like the you know, poverty in Detroit, but
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  Speaker 6: Detroit has a lot of successful black people. Like our
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  Speaker 6: doctors were black, our judges were black, every our lawyers
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  Speaker 6: were black.
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  Speaker 4: Like everyone was just black. So we saw so much
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  Speaker 4: black success.
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  Speaker 2: It was kind of normal.
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  Speaker 6: It was like everyone around us was black. They looked
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  Speaker 6: like us, and they were all successful. Yes, we had
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  Speaker 6: different areas of poverty, but it wasn't we knew that wasn't.
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  Speaker 6: They didn't have to be everyone's experience, every black person's experience.
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  Speaker 6: There were always like different layers and so I think
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  Speaker 6: before I remember going out and campaigning for Dad to
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  Speaker 6: become judge, like going through other door and knocking on
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  Speaker 6: different people's doors. So I do have a sense of
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  Speaker 6: like what black success is outside of entertainment and outside
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  Speaker 6: of like sports.
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  Speaker 8: That's a good evaluation because I used to always tell
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  Speaker 8: you Dad.
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  Speaker 5: With me growing up in Detroit, I thought the whole
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  Speaker 5: world was like that everywhere you went, that black people
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  Speaker 5: were in control, that black people were you know, top
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  Speaker 5: of the.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, black excellence for sure, for sure.
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  Speaker 10: And that's the problem with growing up and segregation. I'll
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  Speaker 10: say that when you have more than fifty percent on one
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  Speaker 10: end and the other disproportion in population, it's really segregation.
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  Speaker 10: If you have eighty percent of one town is of
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  Speaker 10: one race, then it's segregated from that twenty percent. And
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  Speaker 10: so in that sense, eighty percent of the town was Detroit,
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  Speaker 10: So you all don't experience that racism from the twenty
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  Speaker 10: twenty percent. And so when you go to high school,
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  Speaker 10: you don't feel the racism, and or middle school you
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  Speaker 10: don't feel the racism. High school you don't feel the racism.
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  Speaker 10: But boom, time you get in college, time you get
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  Speaker 10: in the workplace, it's like whoa where it comes from.
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  Speaker 6: On the positive side of that is that we had
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  Speaker 6: the foundation of black excellence. So I feel like a
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  Speaker 6: lot of people, some people experience it's growing up in
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  Speaker 6: a city that's not even diverse, but just like in
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  Speaker 6: an inner city, but they don't have the foundation of like, oh,
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  Speaker 6: there are black excellent people around me.
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  Speaker 4: Like for example, if you grew up maybe.
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  Speaker 6: Some parts of la or poverty drinking areas, you don't
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  Speaker 6: see the excellence as well, and so you may not
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  Speaker 6: have that foind, so it may hit you harder. So
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  Speaker 6: I think that it was great to have in Detroit
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  Speaker 6: where like everyone, there were black people in power and
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  Speaker 6: you saw a successful city at that point.
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  Speaker 10: Let me ask, is that the case Elliott in South Carolina?
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  Speaker 10: I know that you know, give us a description of
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  Speaker 10: what it was like in that sense as it relates
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  Speaker 10: to black folks running towns and their status and what
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  Speaker 10: you saw in terms of upper income blacks, et cetera.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, No, it was quite different than what you're describing
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  Speaker 14: Detroit like it was. We did see, you know, some
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  Speaker 14: prominence that you're talking about, maybe like in church, right
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  Speaker 14: in those types of areas in community because we would
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  Speaker 14: say like, oh wow, you know, they graduated from college
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  Speaker 14: and they're doing expires. But when it came to you know,
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  Speaker 14: doctors and even like just seeing a black lawyer, like
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  Speaker 14: we would see some attorneys, right, but not as much
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  Speaker 14: as you would think that would motivate you or feel like.
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  Speaker 7: That's the rest of the world.
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  Speaker 14: From my perspective, like I grew up around like a
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  Speaker 14: lot of white folks and a lot of black folks,
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  Speaker 14: but we clearly saw like the delineation between the two,
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  Speaker 14: like we never I'll say it for me, growing up,
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  Speaker 14: I never assumed that I was inspired by my family, right,
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  Speaker 14: but I never really saw like the black power like
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  Speaker 14: I would say, even when you are describing, you know,
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  Speaker 14: living in Detroit, like seeing you on your show when
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  Speaker 14: the show first came out, like that was a shock
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  Speaker 14: in South Carolina, like seeing a black man a judge
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  Speaker 14: on television telling white people what they're doing wrong, black
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  Speaker 14: to normal thing, right, So from a South Carolina perspective,
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  Speaker 14: it was it was quite different. So it's I mean,
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  Speaker 14: that's the main difference to me, at least from Detroit.
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  Speaker 9: I just siate the structure we grew up in, and
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  Speaker 9: he used to make me so mad back then. I
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  Speaker 9: remember every single Sunday we were expected to be in church.
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  Speaker 9: Our cousins was able to go up north to the
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  Speaker 9: to our grandparents' cabin and stuff like that. But we
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  Speaker 9: just grew up in this really, really structured environment. And
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  Speaker 9: even when we weren't at church, we would do our
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  Speaker 9: church services in the basement.
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  Speaker 7: We probably make us.
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  Speaker 9: Like put the put the singing, like we would do
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  Speaker 9: a musical selection.
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  Speaker 10: And want to tell you, Mill was standing on this
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  Speaker 10: little milk cradle or whatever it was. Actually I remember
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  Speaker 10: most him preacher. You should have been a little preacher, son.
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  Speaker 10: You was a kid preacher all the time.
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  Speaker 9: It would not even stop if we had company come over.
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  Speaker 9: I remember one time, you know they that's president in Detroit.
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  Speaker 9: When we moved to the suburbs and we went to
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  Speaker 9: a school that was ninety percent white, I had one
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  Speaker 9: of my white friends over one weekend and y'all had
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  Speaker 9: him up reading books about Mansa Musa and all these
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  Speaker 9: African fires and stuff up there, all confused.
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  Speaker 8: And I was so embarrassing till you, wasn't it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Growing up, when we moved out to the suburbs,
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  Speaker 3: me and Greg had to do weekly at home book
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  Speaker 3: reports on black historical figures in school.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 10: Jane and Kamar Public School enjoyed from schools too long.
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  Speaker 2: They produced two great lawyers.
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  Speaker 5: School King High School.
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  Speaker 10: Please don't now Jane was Jane was a firecracker in school.
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  Speaker 2: I know that for sure.
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  Speaker 10: And I have to tell us about your high school
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  Speaker 10: and your school experiences.
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  Speaker 2: How many times you got in trouble.
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  Speaker 11: We can't get to straight to my trouble before we
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  Speaker 11: passed over the boys getting all them phone calls, getting right.
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  Speaker 11: I remember every Friday and Saturday night. Maybe I'll let
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  Speaker 11: the boysmails pile up so y'all don't have to deal
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  Speaker 11: with him during the week. But stay over there when
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  Speaker 11: we stayed on the west side of Rosedale Park and
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  Speaker 11: you would hit the answer machine on Friday night over
• 17:08
  Speaker 11: like hello, mister and mister matthis. You know, Gregory didn't
• 17:11
  Speaker 11: have a such good a good day today, Amir, Amir.
• 17:15
  Speaker 11: We had to bring him into the office again. My
• 17:20
  Speaker 11: dirt didn't make it until. You know, my little dirt
• 17:21
  Speaker 11: was a little bit more discreet, but it made it around.
• 17:24
  Speaker 11: Definitely made it around. I was a little terror. I
• 17:26
  Speaker 11: think me, greg and the mirror were the terror is
• 17:28
  Speaker 11: probably in in middle school and high school, and I
• 17:31
  Speaker 11: think threatened to put me out of I believe, or
• 17:34
  Speaker 11: did they put me out of elementary school? Maybe first grade,
• 17:36
  Speaker 11: because they said when it was time to go to bed,
• 17:38
  Speaker 11: I cut somebody's hair and the little cots that night,
• 17:41
  Speaker 11: and then all my gods in there.
• 17:42
  Speaker 13: I said, oh no, I said, that sounded all right,
• 17:44
  Speaker 13: that sounds all right.
• 17:45
  Speaker 10: So I remember saying to myself, she had kicked out
• 17:49
  Speaker 10: of the first grade. And then I said, what show do.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: That, Jane?
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: You had Gregory?
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: He joined getting kicked out of the first girl Lord,
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: we just went over his We found that.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Well, we scared of mom and dad when we got
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: in trouble, or were scared of one parent in particular.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: Obviously not, but you kept doing what.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I was scared of.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Back in the day, that's when we used to get stopped.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: He wouldn't have to be.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Back in the day, you couldn't call the cops on
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: your parents. And so we got we got, we got punishment,
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: but me and Greg used to get a little whooping.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: We used to smile at each other and laugh and
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: giggle after where we used to push each other into
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: the room like you you go first.
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: I just remember, but used to have a choice whether
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: you get a spanking or a punishment, And y'all were like, well,
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: the spacan is only you know, it only hurt for
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: like a couple of minutes, so we just do the
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: Spagan got the punishment last two weeks.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, that's a good point, but I've
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: never gotten a spanking. I was just a princess.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: I will say that me and Greg deserved every whipping
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: that we got. Honestly, it has built us into the men.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: You missed a few too.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: I should have. I tried to have a give some spanking.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: To have a question of who were we scared of
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: more when we got in trouble.
• 19:06
  Speaker 10: Mama, Dad, You're supposed to be scared of your dad more.
• 19:09
  Speaker 10: Traditionally in American society.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: That's the way it went.
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: Because I know I was scared of my dad growing up,
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: so I think in our household too, because you guys
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: saw me every day, you thought it was as funny
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: when I used to tell you something or get angry
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: with you, It was funny for me.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: I just I never got a spanking from there, so
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: I never I.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Was never afraid.
• 19:31
  Speaker 10: I was just like, I don't think I could have
• 19:33
  Speaker 10: brung myself to spranking girl. I get problem spreaking them boys,
• 19:39
  Speaker 10: but I don't think I could have brought myself to
• 19:41
  Speaker 10: do that.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: That would be horrible. Putn't the belt on the What
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: if she had on a dress or something.
• 19:50
  Speaker 10: Imagine whipping a daughter with a dress on, Oh cheer
• 19:56
  Speaker 10: I'm mentioning a cheerleader dress and breaking her what a belt?
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: Mom used to yell, though she used to have she
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: was the fusser.
• 20:06
  Speaker 13: I got to your.
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: And seeing that's what happens, then the mom myself, I
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: would fuss Moore, thinking.
• 20:15
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna get through. At some point I guess that
• 20:18
  Speaker 8: didn't the going.
• 20:19
  Speaker 10: But let us also say, as a mair said, you
• 20:22
  Speaker 10: can call the police now about these bankings. And so
• 20:26
  Speaker 10: that meant we weren't exercising the right discipline necessarily because
• 20:32
  Speaker 10: I have discovered he goes some political philosopher philosophical stuff.
• 20:36
  Speaker 10: I have discovered that when you whip and spank people,
• 20:40
  Speaker 10: you're teaching them to resolve differences through violence. You must
• 20:45
  Speaker 10: find another way in which to discipline your children, and
• 20:49
  Speaker 10: that doesn't tell them the way you resolve your problems.
• 20:53
  Speaker 10: Is to engage in violent behavior.
• 20:57
  Speaker 7: And they really did not teach that back then though.
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: That was the problem.
• 21:00
  Speaker 9: I mean, I remember even when we went to Paul Robison,
• 21:03
  Speaker 9: our teacher had a paddle in the class and would
• 21:06
  Speaker 9: bring children up to the front of the classroom and
• 21:09
  Speaker 9: paddle them in front of the whole class.
• 21:11
  Speaker 10: If yes, I just thought about it, that's what. I
• 21:17
  Speaker 10: don't know if it was in front of the students,
• 21:20
  Speaker 10: but it was. I can remember that desk. He laid
• 21:22
  Speaker 10: me over his knee, back that chair up, laid me
• 21:25
  Speaker 10: over to the knee and tear me up with that paddle.
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: I saw Jade and Elliott nodding. Jay Jag got that
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: in school too, or.
• 21:33
  Speaker 13: No, no, don't talk about that. I don't remember those things.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: I got it in school and that was an excellence,
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: nice and everything. Just one time, just one time, ran
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: down the hall in front of the principal. She she
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: grabbed me and said stop running and had us something
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: in her hand and my legs my yes.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: She did me. You believe that.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: That's as nice as I am and and follow the rules.
• 22:02
  Speaker 8: That's what happened to me.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: So back then there was corporal punishment in the school.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: Mark so we as parents took that same type of
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: punishment thinking that was the way to go, and we
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: use that.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: But now we know and maybe make an observation.
• 22:18
  Speaker 10: Maybe you look at it differently than that teacher or
• 22:22
  Speaker 10: that principal did when she had to tap them legs.
• 22:26
  Speaker 10: Perhaps you think you are a very nice person who
• 22:29
  Speaker 10: never did anything.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: That's that's good for one to think such of themselves.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: Then give you some proovement in high school. In high school,
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: got into one fight in high school. You gotta do
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: and the security guard, yes, the security guy, well, actually
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: it wasn't actual physical fight, but I would I would have,
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: but I had to go.
• 22:51
  Speaker 8: Tell somebody off. Me and my girlfriends. We went and
• 22:54
  Speaker 8: told somebody was run straight.
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: Nice girls can get with people too, and so the
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: security guys.
• 23:06
  Speaker 8: It all came to us afterwards to saying, oh, we
• 23:09
  Speaker 8: cannot believe you nice girls acted like that.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: That's how we were.
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: That's a deserved.
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: Weren't until I was pushed, Until I was pushed be nice.
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: About your school spankings?
• 23:28
  Speaker 14: Oh yeah, you know, No I don't, but I did
• 23:30
  Speaker 14: get spakings elementary school.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: I was by your parents and by the principal.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 23:37
  Speaker 14: I used to my mom was the principal at the
• 23:39
  Speaker 14: elementary school. Have somebody in there and witnessed it, and yeah,
• 23:46
  Speaker 14: it was a paddle, had tape wrapped around it. It
• 23:49
  Speaker 14: was it was serious.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Corporate.
• 23:51
  Speaker 14: I used to get spankings too, and I used to
• 23:53
  Speaker 14: have to grab a switch.
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: Like.
• 23:56
  Speaker 10: So go out there and get that switch your own,
• 24:02
  Speaker 10: because she's the parent now of the family.
• 24:04
  Speaker 9: When did that shift take place to whey, you can't
• 24:07
  Speaker 9: do that no more?
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, I know gentle parenting now is all the talk.
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: I don't know about that, but I think that there
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: are corporate punishment does still take place. I'm not going
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: to say that not in not household, but there are
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: kids people who still spank their their children. But overall,
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: it's not the general like theme or like the message
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: to society that there are other ways of like understanding emotionally,
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: having conversations, listening to kids. I mean, and it's kind
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: of like a general understanding that a five year old
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: may act out at times like I mean, as an adult,
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: I act out at times like I get frustrated, I
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: get angry. It's kind of like a general understanding of.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: Like, so you to go with that. And I don't.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: So it's like, if I'm an.
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: Adult and I do that, then a five year old
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: what I got expect them to do?
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: They?
• 24:54
  Speaker 13: So, so what are some ways?
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 24:56
  Speaker 11: What's the methods now that you that you are used?
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: It's not apparentcy episode. We're gonna save that for another
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: time because that's a.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Whole Okay, okay, So did do you all think that
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: we were treated differently?
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Growing up?
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Differently? Who all different people? Let y'all say it.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think me and Greg got treated the
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: same because we're boys. But I think that we were
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: all treated separately. Yes, but Greg and I were only
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: a year apart when we were getting everything together. Kamara
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: was the mom of everybody, and Jay was just tired.
• 25:33
  Speaker 13: Of us, and I was halfway terrible like y'all too.
• 25:35
  Speaker 8: This wasn't about ginger.
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: It was about who followed the rules who didn't. You
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: had Jay, kamaraw they followed rules and did what they.
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: Were supposed to do in front of our face. Yes,
• 25:46
  Speaker 8: did we had you boys who just was buck round?
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Because Camar and Jay got away with some stuff that
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: y'all don't even know about it.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: You they were smart, they're smarter.
• 25:58
  Speaker 8: Yes, they knew how to cover. Yeah, and you and
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: your brother do that, or.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: You just didn't care. They didn't care to. They just
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: broke the rules.
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: Like we just follow our hearts.
• 26:11
  Speaker 11: We come following the rules, even if I think I
• 26:14
  Speaker 11: am damn mare. Usually Kamorrow was a snitch. W we
• 26:18
  Speaker 11: was younger. Look at you over here, Sches.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Well, no, everyone's at a point now where we can
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: tell our deepest, darkest secrets and.
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: Them you are at that point, not everyone.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: Once your dad was on TV, do you think his
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: success in him being known on TV changed our family dynamic?
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: Do you think it changed the way you were perceived
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: in the family.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: I would say no.
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: I would say just things got bigger and better to
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: an extent of like the vacations got bigger and better,
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: the family vacations. We moved to a bigger house, like,
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: but I feel like our core values kind of stayed
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: the same. The love was still there, like the obligations,
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: like the discipline, The structure was still there. It was
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: always kind of known of like, all right, well dad's bigger,
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: more money, but you still you may have benefit in
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: this privilege, but you still have to do what you
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: have to do.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: So I don't think it really changed inside the family.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I agree with that.
• 27:16
  Speaker 13: I agree.
• 27:17
  Speaker 11: I feel like the expectations were still the same. And
• 27:19
  Speaker 11: tomorrow are you supposed to insurvey moving owner?
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 27:23
  Speaker 10: I think one of the things I wanted to make
• 27:28
  Speaker 10: sure is that our success financially in particular, allowed you
• 27:33
  Speaker 10: all to focus more on your academics, and that is
• 27:37
  Speaker 10: I didn't want you all to work. Everybody want a
• 27:40
  Speaker 10: lot of young people and teenagers they want a teenage job. Well,
• 27:44
  Speaker 10: to the extent that you're working, that's the less amount
• 27:47
  Speaker 10: of time you have for your scholastics. And so that
• 27:52
  Speaker 10: was one of the things I was glad when most
• 27:55
  Speaker 10: teenagers want to they just want that independence and I
• 27:59
  Speaker 10: want my own individual money. Uh, that's one of the
• 28:03
  Speaker 10: things I was glad that changed, or that we didn't
• 28:07
  Speaker 10: have to, uh that challenge of you all having to
• 28:10
  Speaker 10: do teenage work to get allowances or to get the
• 28:13
  Speaker 10: things that you wanted right.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: Go shopping and stuff.
• 28:16
  Speaker 8: Well, some people might think that bid of character.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Well, Jay worked for a year two and she made
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: it through.
• 28:24
  Speaker 10: Yeah, she made it through, but she didn't have to
• 28:28
  Speaker 10: right to. She learned and had fun and tell us
• 28:31
  Speaker 10: your experience while you were working in middle and high school.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Jay, think you started against legal high school. I'm talking about.
• 28:42
  Speaker 11: No, I just want two summers while I was in
• 28:45
  Speaker 11: school in high school, and because I wanted that independent
• 28:47
  Speaker 11: kind of First of all, I wanted to get away
• 28:49
  Speaker 11: from the bad siblings all around that house. Not you tomorrow,
• 28:52
  Speaker 11: but you know, I was a little older, so I
• 28:54
  Speaker 11: wanted my independence. And I had a car by that time.
• 28:56
  Speaker 11: You all got me car when I was fifteen sixteen,
• 28:58
  Speaker 11: So you know, I was in my head independent in
• 29:01
  Speaker 11: the summertimes.
• 29:01
  Speaker 13: Wanted to make my own money. And I was like.
• 29:04
  Speaker 10: You doing semesters at all?
• 29:07
  Speaker 11: No, No, only on the weekend in the summertime, and
• 29:09
  Speaker 11: then maybe like sometimes during the weekends if I want
• 29:12
  Speaker 11: an extra money on the side, but mainly in the summertime,
• 29:15
  Speaker 11: but just to get my kind of independence and get out.
• 29:17
  Speaker 13: And I just like to have money. So like you said,
• 29:20
  Speaker 13: we didn't need to.
• 29:20
  Speaker 11: But I like to meet new people, and I wanted
• 29:22
  Speaker 11: to get fro around my younger siblings for a couples.
• 29:24
  Speaker 13: So I was like, I'm gonna meet some some good friends.
• 29:26
  Speaker 11: And my first job was working for Betrayed rail Wings,
• 29:30
  Speaker 11: Hockey Town Cafe and I was a hostess and I
• 29:32
  Speaker 11: absolutely loved it.
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: You were supposed to sing a song too, don't.
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: Hey, guys, do you know what I made?
• 29:43
  Speaker 13: You got your head?
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Do we have to cut that out, Attorney of law.
• 29:52
  Speaker 11: Because we're not really staying like the worst?
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: Ontil you get that teach me.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we lose anything when we gained success, because I
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: feel like some people say there's a cost to success,
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: but I.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Don't feel like we had that.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: I feel like we really all my friends when we
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: you know, they used to come over and you guys
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: are just normal family.
• 30:16
  Speaker 8: I look at it as a compliment.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: Yes, right down on earth.
• 30:19
  Speaker 14: I would agree more so because even just being around
• 30:23
  Speaker 14: you all for the last ten years, right, you have
• 30:25
  Speaker 14: a core of friends and family that have been around
• 30:29
  Speaker 14: you before you know the success or you know the
• 30:32
  Speaker 14: change in your lifestyle per se, right, And I think
• 30:35
  Speaker 14: that says a lot about people and the structure and
• 30:38
  Speaker 14: the core values that you all have. So I definitely
• 30:40
  Speaker 14: agree that you know from just being around you all
• 30:44
  Speaker 14: that you all are very humble, very I would say, centered,
• 30:48
  Speaker 14: where you where other people would not assume that you
• 30:51
  Speaker 14: would be or would have to be. But I think
• 30:53
  Speaker 14: it's a it's almost it seems as though you all
• 30:56
  Speaker 14: were structured to where you wanted to make sure that
• 30:59
  Speaker 14: you could at least permeiate or push that out to
• 31:02
  Speaker 14: the world. So it's not seen in one way just
• 31:05
  Speaker 14: because of the success of your dad and stuff like that,
• 31:08
  Speaker 14: that you are are real people, and I think that's
• 31:11
  Speaker 14: a that's a big thing, or you know, something I
• 31:13
  Speaker 14: just always admired, especially and.
• 31:16
  Speaker 10: Let me say it did challenge for me my mindset
• 31:19
  Speaker 10: in the sense that I had always felt challenged financially
• 31:24
  Speaker 10: and I was even though I was in public service
• 31:28
  Speaker 10: and politics and civil rights which doesn't pay. That was
• 31:32
  Speaker 10: as you are, Mama can tell you. I always had
• 31:34
  Speaker 10: some little side, so I was trying to come up
• 31:36
  Speaker 10: with somebody with But that was always on my mind,
• 31:41
  Speaker 10: having four children and a wife that to being a provider,
• 31:45
  Speaker 10: and you know, y'all know me. I think I think
• 31:49
  Speaker 10: three to five years ahead of time instead of living
• 31:53
  Speaker 10: in the moment like most people say you should do.
• 31:55
  Speaker 10: And so I always had that on my mind. And
• 32:00
  Speaker 10: then when things changed there, I felt incredible relief and
• 32:07
  Speaker 10: life became more fun, particularly when I could.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Talk stuff on television and have fun.
• 32:13
  Speaker 10: It just life became fun and the financial stresses were gone.
• 32:18
  Speaker 10: So internally it changed tremendously for me an idea inside
• 32:23
  Speaker 10: of me. Outwardly, I have to let everybody else determine that,
• 32:28
  Speaker 10: and some folks say, I've got to need more more ghetto.
• 32:33
  Speaker 13: Before it isn't that's got Hoodrige.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Got hood Ridge. There you go.
• 32:39
  Speaker 9: I think that even though we maintained our personalities and
• 32:42
  Speaker 9: we've done a great job of doing that, one thing
• 32:45
  Speaker 9: I think that did change for our family is and
• 32:49
  Speaker 9: this is a good and about you know it cuts
• 32:50
  Speaker 9: both ways, but a responsibility and knowing that the things
• 32:54
  Speaker 9: that we say, the things that we do have a
• 32:57
  Speaker 9: greater impact than people that don't have the platform privilege
• 33:00
  Speaker 9: that you know, you've created for his family and that
• 33:03
  Speaker 9: we've you know all you know, lived in and so
• 33:06
  Speaker 9: I think that's one thing personally I think that has changed.
• 33:08
  Speaker 9: I know I can't say or do certain things that
• 33:10
  Speaker 9: other people might be able to say and do.
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: I'm going to mention the fact that when you were
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: stressed out, you had me stressed out because every evening
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: he was we had at that.
• 33:20
  Speaker 8: Time, we had a lower level basement.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: He was in the basement every evening trying to figure
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: out reading all kind of stuff, putting stuff together, trying
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: to figure out how we were going to educate these children,
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: having four babies back to back to back. Yes, and
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: he was thinking about how we were going to get
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: them through college already. So he was stressed out about it,
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: and I was stressed out because he was.
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: So when all this happened and the success of being
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: blessed with.
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: Judge matthis show, Judge show, that was a good.
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: Feel like that major relief sure off.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: Of your parents here, it's been fun ever since.
• 34:04
  Speaker 10: Yeah, your labor and purposeful. That was the other thing.
• 34:09
  Speaker 10: I felt a sense of purpose and when you're always
• 34:12
  Speaker 10: this happened, Okay, must be something to this. Let me
• 34:16
  Speaker 10: figure it out and what am I supposed to do
• 34:18
  Speaker 10: with this? And Boom gave me a direction that was
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  Speaker 10: both fun and purposeful.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, And it's hard to think of your purpose and
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: think that deeply when you're worried about finances and we're
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: trying to figure out how to make life. You know
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: that your own right and once you get that out
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: the way, yeah, other things bostole.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we're very close as a family. You all
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: have made sure that we're all a unit and have
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: a close bond. But you know, how do how do
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: we like conflict resolved situation? Let's talk about that.
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  Speaker 10: Well, let me say why. I think it's because we
• 34:54
  Speaker 10: love and like each other, or at least y'all do.
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  Speaker 10: And I say love triumphs everything.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think love and it most definitely having faith.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: You gotta have faith and everything. And the fact is
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: that we can we learn, we know each other, and
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: we know that you're gonna say so, and so Amir's
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: gonna get mad about this, or we mentioned this, Kamara's
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: gonna look funny, and so we kind of know disappear,
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: know how we person each of us reacts to things.
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  Speaker 2: We know shade on it.
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  Speaker 10: We know shade when y'all throwing it out of shade,
• 35:30
  Speaker 10: shady jade.
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  Speaker 13: That y'all being all cute and nice.
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  Speaker 11: I'm gonna disappear and ghost everybody, and then I'm gonna
• 35:36
  Speaker 11: reappear when I feel better.
• 35:38
  Speaker 13: And the good thing is that we all know that I.
• 35:40
  Speaker 8: Was like, No, I know when I called Jay you
• 35:44
  Speaker 8: I ran here.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: She called back when she when she's in the mood.
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  Speaker 11: No, I think we let each other be each other,
• 35:50
  Speaker 11: and you know, give us that space and the autonomy
• 35:52
  Speaker 11: to be who you are genuinely without forcing a particular
• 35:56
  Speaker 11: person or thing or personality or feeling on the other person.
• 36:00
  Speaker 11: I think we respect and we know how each other are,
• 36:02
  Speaker 11: and we're like, okay, they're having a moment, this is there,
• 36:04
  Speaker 11: they'll be back, you know what I mean, And we
• 36:05
  Speaker 11: let each other be each other. I think that's a
• 36:07
  Speaker 11: big part of being family, is that you let people
• 36:09
  Speaker 11: who they are nine and.
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  Speaker 4: We know when to shut up.
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  Speaker 6: And sometimes when I'm going back and forth with a mirror,
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: I'm like, Okay, you're right, because the baby has come out.
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: He was tired to get Now he is always right
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: and know everything, so you just gotta smile.
• 36:28
  Speaker 8: Now, he's telling me.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Some time when you have all the answers, you know,
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: just listen, you're giving us a whole.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: When you have all of the answers.
• 36:42
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna get right, just like his daddy, you know
• 36:50
  Speaker 8: it all growing today.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: He was it wants the lead everything.
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: So you have a question, though, Sure, who's the hardest
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: to deal with?
• 37:02
  Speaker 10: Is it.
• 37:05
  Speaker 9: Mean?
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: But not sure?
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: And yeah, now I don't know how you remember understanding.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Because y'all wore me out.
• 37:18
  Speaker 7: I said, you know, what I can't keep going back.
• 37:22
  Speaker 13: I agree, Bobby, I agree. I used to be at
• 37:24
  Speaker 13: the top to this.
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: I gave up and they don't call me. When it
• 37:29
  Speaker 7: gets to that point and it happens that they're gonna.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: Call me, well, I win arguments through exhaustion. Exhaust you
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: do you know, I just got to keep saying. You
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: have to keep saying the same thing over and over
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: until they dis agree.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: That looks actually mad. Looking pretty mad right now, looks.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: Like I gotta deal with you every day.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: I know vice versa.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: You're the same people.
• 37:58
  Speaker 9: And then I get the phone call from my exhausted
• 38:01
  Speaker 9: father saying, Hey, you think you can call your brother
• 38:03
  Speaker 9: and talk to him about this man.
• 38:05
  Speaker 7: I've been trying to tell him ABC.
• 38:07
  Speaker 9: And I think you got to call him.
• 38:13
  Speaker 10: You are the most difficult that's raise your hand if
• 38:16
  Speaker 10: you say a mirror is the most difficult family member
• 38:19
  Speaker 10: to deal with.
• 38:19
  Speaker 8: Now he's gonna tell you what.
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: He's gonna tell you what.
• 38:22
  Speaker 13: I want to.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Put his own hand up, so.
• 38:29
  Speaker 9: One of the first to come over and help you
• 38:31
  Speaker 9: if you need something, As long as one of his
• 38:33
  Speaker 9: fifty million friends doesn't have a request, then before you I'm.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Not helping out with anything anymore. There's no help.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: And you reminded me that I help y'all so much
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: and I get this in return, so there's.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: No all the help.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: You know, edit, Go go edit your own Go edit
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: your own podcast.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: We don't love you. It's okay.
• 39:07
  Speaker 7: You gotta eat peak credit to on that, just so
• 39:10
  Speaker 7: you know.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, this was great.
• 39:16
  Speaker 13: Everybody.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Thank you who want to take over right now?
• 39:20
  Speaker 10: And I take it if I take over, will never end.
• 39:23
  Speaker 10: This session will never end. So maybe someone who talks
• 39:27
  Speaker 10: less than me, Jaiden.
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: Body, you're gonna let You're gonna let you give us
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: the final verdict on the way all right, this is
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: the Mathews verdict.
• 39:38
  Speaker 10: In fact, that'll be a good session about the Mathews verdict.
• 39:43
  Speaker 10: And the question is going to be what should we
• 39:47
  Speaker 10: do about dealing with a mirror. Should we ignore him,
• 39:53
  Speaker 10: obey him one hundred percent or meet him in the million?
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: I think this is deflection.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: He's he's he's he's putting all on me so he
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: can deflect us talking about him.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: You're the new leader.
• 40:05
  Speaker 8: I think we had one thing that count a producer credit.
• 40:10
  Speaker 13: You got.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: What I'm going to say is we all have learned
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: our own way of how to deal with a mirror. Oh, judge,
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: here he talks talks to me, and he talks to Bobby,
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: and you're supposed to talk to you.
• 40:22
  Speaker 8: What is going on with you?
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: I just let him and I say, I learned from
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: the best I learned how to My mom was busting
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: at me as a kid, and I was like, I
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: just kept doing the same thing with the mirror. Okay,
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: it's okay, this is this is a form of bullying.
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: Mirrors great, God Di the millennial trigger words are we
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: being too aggressive?
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: Okay?
• 40:51
  Speaker 13: I don't agree a mirror. I think you're great, Thank you.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: I think James the most difficult to I want to
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: be if you I think Jame's the most difficult to
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: be honest, No, Ja, I don't need anybody. I don't
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: I don't need anybody to defend me. He's the most difficult.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Then it's Jay and actually Elliott too, because he's smiling
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: all the time.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: That means sneaky.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly what you what?
• 41:22
  Speaker 10: You're right? Hold on, let's get onto this, Elliot. Why
• 41:26
  Speaker 10: are you so quiet?
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: That's sneaky? Just thought about that. I'm not start looking
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: at it.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: Ain't that much happiness in the world. But it ain't
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: this much happiness in the whole world.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Married together.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Don't do that period being married to you.
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: That's what happened.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: He's constantly leaving out of town and not inviting you.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: What are you talking about?
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: And taking me right away that I see his wife.
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: They don't go nowhere without each other.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: No, No, I'm just kidding. You know, I know I'm kidding.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: Difficult, but you know, sometimes you got to teach tough
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: lessons and it's tough love.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: So I just get you.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Because no one listens.
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: I know why all this came about, and y'all want
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: me to tell you the reasons. Amir has a living woman,
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: and she came over and she told me, the Mir
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: is the leader of our household. His household, I think
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: that has gone.
• 42:36
  Speaker 8: To his head.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: And she tells me that she learns so much from me.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: She told me that I am.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: There.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: It is someone sees the truth. That's the verdict.
• 42:54
  Speaker 10: Okay, next time, folks, we hope you enjoyed. Let's gonna
• 43:00
  Speaker 10: be very topical. It's gonna be controversial from time to time.
• 43:04
  Speaker 10: We're gonna have great guests on This is just the
• 43:07
  Speaker 10: beginning of the great core that you'll always have available
• 43:12
  Speaker 10: to entertain, inform, and assist. And everybody's shaking their head,
• 43:17
  Speaker 10: like Dad, please, let's stop, and let's end. Gonna talk
• 43:21
  Speaker 10: endlessly like you always do. If I didn't, I wouldn't
• 43:25
  Speaker 10: be your dad. You would think I was someone else.
• 43:27
  Speaker 10: I want you all to know I haven't changed
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: By out and