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The Shifting Tides Of Metal With CHRIS GEBAUER From DEADSPACE · HEAVY Music Interviews

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Speaker 1: Well, my name's Chris I front the w a black
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Speaker 1: metal band Dead Space. We've been around for a fair
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Speaker 1: while now, about nine years or something, a few years
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Speaker 1: of laying low sort of in between, you know, got
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Speaker 1: a new record out, so basically when we decided to
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Speaker 1: stop laying low, we started making music again. We put
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Speaker 1: an EP out last year. The new album of The
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Speaker 1: Dark Enlightenment came out on November the third. Sort of
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Speaker 1: marks a long term change in direction that we've been
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Speaker 1: sort of working at since twenty nineteen, but we've just
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Speaker 1: upped the ante on the shift a little bit. So
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Speaker 1: you know, if you're into heavier, more avant garde death metal,
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Speaker 1: black metal and fused kind of stuff more than the
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Speaker 1: ever so popular atmospheric side of black metal at the moment,
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Speaker 1: then you might be into the new record over what
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Speaker 1: we've done in the past.
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Speaker 2: Got it for christ Join us today, mate.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no worries, Thanks for having me.
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Speaker 2: Oh, why so you mentioned Dead Space released your latest album,
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Speaker 2: The Dark Enlightenment back on November the third, mate, So
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Speaker 2: you've been out about five weeks Now's the early response been.
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Speaker 1: It's been pretty pretty slow, but definitely positive. We haven't
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Speaker 1: received much slap back for it. But you know, in
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Speaker 1: the genre that we're in, it's quite normal for things
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Speaker 1: to grow on people. And it's also quite normal for
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Speaker 1: people who listen to the music and really not say
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Speaker 1: a lot. So we never really put much out expecting
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Speaker 1: a huge response or you know, especially from a you know,
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Speaker 1: a sales point of view. You know, we're not really
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Speaker 1: selling it, we're selling the physicals. So basically, yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: just it's been good. Yeah, I think that a lot
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Speaker 1: of people are appreciating, you know, where it's going, and
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Speaker 1: I'm sure that there's a lot of people that have
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Speaker 1: absolutely no clue whatsoever that there was even an album out,
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Speaker 1: and that's just, you know, that's the nature of the beast.
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Speaker 1: It's like, well, you know, how do you want to
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Speaker 1: do things? Do you want to be that ever annoying
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Speaker 1: band that just floods people's feeds with you know, stuff
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Speaker 1: that is eventually just going to annoy the hell out
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Speaker 1: of them, or do you want to do you want
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Speaker 1: to wait for the music to sort of discover the people,
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Speaker 1: if that makes sense.
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Speaker 2: Indeed, how you sort of touched on this a bit earlier, Bra,
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Speaker 2: but tell us a bit more about the album from
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Speaker 2: musical point of view and what you were gone over it.
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Speaker 1: So to understand the concept of this album, it makes
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Speaker 1: sense to sort of understand how the fabric of the
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Speaker 1: band is shifted in general and where the where the
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Speaker 1: source material of this album kind of comes from.
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Speaker 3: So like a big step.
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Speaker 1: And what we've been what we've been doing as a
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Speaker 1: band is like depersonalizing the stuff that we that we
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Speaker 1: write a lot, so it's not really it's not necessarily
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Speaker 1: dealing with the emotions of a singular person or you know,
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Speaker 1: basically sensory based feelings or anything like that. Basically, it
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Speaker 1: it looks at the human condition as a collective, like
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Speaker 1: as a whole. And what we've started to do, which
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Speaker 1: has given us a lot more what's the word, it's
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Speaker 1: given us a bit more scope in terms of in
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Speaker 1: terms of, you know, concepts and things that we can explore,
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Speaker 1: is we take basic ideas that are either neutral ideas,
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe good ideas, maybe bad ideas. So
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Speaker 1: we're talking more philosophical kind of concepts at this point
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Speaker 1: and sort of exploiting them for everything that they're worth.
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Speaker 1: Talking about the impact that that has or that that
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Speaker 1: may have on the surrounding kind of ethos of what
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Speaker 1: it means to be human and how we fit or
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Speaker 1: don't fit in the spectrum of the earth in general.
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Speaker 1: So basically the album tracks come from the period that
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Speaker 1: we were writing the EP songs.
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Speaker 3: Well I was you know, I basically.
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Speaker 1: Get the ball rolling with the with the beginning of everything,
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Speaker 1: and we put some stuff aside. It fit really well
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Speaker 1: on the EP. We washed out the production a lot
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Speaker 1: on the EP and made it a bit mysterious and
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Speaker 1: murky because it was meant to be sort of a
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Speaker 1: prelude for what was to come, and certain tracks were,
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Speaker 1: you know, a little bit more on the hard hitting
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Speaker 1: side that we didn't really we didn't really think fit
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Speaker 1: that little EP. So what we did is we kind
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Speaker 1: of split those materials. It was about we could have
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Speaker 1: made it, made it an album, but we decided not to.
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Speaker 1: We decided to split it to five tracks and we
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Speaker 1: kept the other four tracks or something that we had
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Speaker 1: for you know, sort of skeletons for the record. And
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Speaker 1: at the time I was living in Belgium with my wife,
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Speaker 1: so we didn't have a lot of contact as a band,
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Speaker 1: and I sort of like fleshed out half of the record.
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Speaker 1: I think while we were over in Belgium and then
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Speaker 1: we moved back to Australia in January this year, so
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Speaker 1: that's kind of when we sat down and kind of
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Speaker 1: finalized it and I started showing the guys where it
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Speaker 1: was going and what we were going to do with it,
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Speaker 1: talking a little bit more about the concepts and that
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Speaker 1: sort of thing. So yeah, to sort of get it's
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Speaker 1: kind of like a continuation of the EP, where the
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Speaker 1: EP kind of predicts like this, this sort of apocalypse
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Speaker 1: that's already in motion, and then what the album seeks
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Speaker 1: to do is maybe look at some theories or some
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Speaker 1: ideas about why that may already be in motion and
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Speaker 1: what is avoidable and what's not avoidable. So yes, it's
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Speaker 1: a bit of a bit of a strange one. It's
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Speaker 1: hard to explain.
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Speaker 2: So along those lines, mate, like would you say overall
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Speaker 2: it's an album of hope or despair?
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Speaker 1: Definitely despair, So it's yeah, it's a bit difficult to
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Speaker 1: pinpoint it. There's not much hope in it whatsoever. But
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Speaker 1: as I was sort of alluding to before, the idea
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Speaker 1: of it is to explore concepts. So you know, in
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Speaker 1: saying that, when you put out a record that has
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Speaker 1: it sort of illuminates consequences of certain actions or thinking
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Speaker 1: or whatever. Then we are talking specifically to that that
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Speaker 1: condition in itself, not saying that that there isn't joy
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Speaker 1: and hope and these kind of things in life. But
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Speaker 1: basically we've taken in a way a philosophical theory here,
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Speaker 1: which is Nick Land's work. He's a bit of a
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Speaker 1: cooked unit and I love the way he writes because
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Speaker 1: it's super for philosophy. It's super artistic. It's almost like
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Speaker 1: you're reading like old Nietzsche stuff, which is exactly why
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Speaker 1: he gets He gets absolutely flamed by the by the
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Speaker 1: philosophy community because it's not the most sound of philosophy.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's very interesting, like some of the ideas
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Speaker 1: that he posits, and you know, in his opinion, the
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Speaker 1: only hope is turning to things like music and things
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Speaker 1: where there is still some kind of semblance of nonconformity
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Speaker 1: and expression left. So it's not to say that there's
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Speaker 1: no joy in what we do, and that you know
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Speaker 1: that we're at a point where we don't enjoy it,
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Speaker 1: or we don't enjoy life, or we don't enjoy certain
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Speaker 1: aspects of what we do. It's more that we are
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Speaker 1: we're basically analyzing this this status that he adopts quite
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Speaker 1: rigidly and saying, look like a lot of these ideas
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Speaker 1: are extremely interesting and you can trace them back to
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Speaker 1: being plausible.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 1: It's it's quite certain that there is not as much
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Speaker 1: room to move in terms of personal freedom anymore, that
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Speaker 1: everything is becoming gridded down, and that there are probably
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Speaker 1: various reasons for that that may be more complex than
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Speaker 1: the sort of mythical nature that he approaches it in.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's very It very specifically deals with that
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Speaker 1: idea and this this kind of feeling that the world
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Speaker 1: is in a way going to shit on a grand scale,
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Speaker 1: and that's something that I think is pretty difficult for
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Speaker 1: anyone that's been alive for a while to ignore. You know,
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Speaker 1: the world is changing, for better or for worse. It
8:53
Speaker 1: depends what you're into. You know, if you're if you're
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Speaker 1: in the market of developing AI products and things like that,
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Speaker 1: you're that kind of creative entrepreneur, I mean, what a
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Speaker 1: time to be alive. But you know, if you're if
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Speaker 1: you're someone that prefers a not completely but a slightly
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Speaker 1: more traditional way of life, then it's a little bit
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Speaker 1: of an uprooting in itself for.
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Speaker 2: You know, now you've released the singles Thinged, New, Meta
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Speaker 2: and fold the naming Chaos, Like, if that's all someone's
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Speaker 2: heard from now album, would you say that's a good
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Speaker 2: representation of what to expect.
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Speaker 1: With Culminating Chaos. Definitely, that was the first track we
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Speaker 1: had ready. The song hits with a bang. It's the
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Speaker 1: biggest pivotal maybe pivotal, you know, exhibition piece for the
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Speaker 1: record that it made it very clear, it's like, this
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Speaker 1: is not what you've heard, you know, from what we
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Speaker 1: were doing five six, seven, eight, nine years ago, And
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Speaker 1: I think that was the whole point of it. Yet
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Speaker 1: there is still something in there that kind of ties
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Speaker 1: it back to the EP that we put out earlier.
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Speaker 3: So I think that that was a very conscious choice.
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Speaker 1: The fang numenal one was that we had, so the
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Speaker 1: two the way that I see it is the two
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Speaker 1: really like iconic, Like the most iconic songs on the
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Speaker 1: record are Culminating Chaos and definitely Dyscoisia, which is the
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Speaker 1: fifth track, and that one sort of it combines elements
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Speaker 1: of everything that we've always done but shines like a
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Speaker 1: new light on it. You know how it all comes
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Speaker 1: together in this new machine that we've sort of developed.
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Speaker 1: That's you know, it's a songwriting style that we sort
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Speaker 1: of have adopted here, and we needed something in between
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Speaker 1: for that because you know, in terms of track releases,
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Speaker 1: we don't want to give away the two most iconic
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Speaker 1: songs at the beginning and you know, then just drop
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Speaker 1: the rest of the album and the rest of the album,
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Speaker 1: you know, it makes sense.
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Speaker 3: So we threw a little bit of curveball in there, which.
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Speaker 1: Was to basically put out the song on the record
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Speaker 1: that's the most simplistic and the most sort of tied
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Speaker 1: into like traditional black metal in a way, sort of
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Speaker 1: to throw people off a little bit. You know, Culminating
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Speaker 1: Chaos has that really eclectic kind of like heavy vibe,
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Speaker 1: and then you've got a band like us that's always
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Speaker 1: been kind of more on the melodic side. And then
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Speaker 1: we throw out something like fang Numena, which is basically
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Speaker 1: like a like nineties Norwegian black metal track in a way,
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Speaker 1: with underlying elements that that somehow make it unique. But
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Speaker 1: you know, in a way, it's really like a meat
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Speaker 1: and potatoes kind of song, and we put that out
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Speaker 1: there as like an interim thing because in my opinion,
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Speaker 1: it's still a great track, but you know, it's pummeling.
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Speaker 1: It kept the momentum up getting ready for Discoasy to
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Speaker 1: come out right before the release date. And yeah, obviously,
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Speaker 1: you know, I think all the songs on the record
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Speaker 1: are great. It's actually the first record I've turned around
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Speaker 1: afterwards and gone, Okay, there's not one bit of shit
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Speaker 1: on this record.
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Speaker 3: You know, most other records we've done, there's been a.
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Speaker 1: Track or two or the whole album that I've turned
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Speaker 1: on within a couple of months of it being out.
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Speaker 1: And some of that is the tediousness of promoting and
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Speaker 1: all of that stuff, which is also why we've slowed
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Speaker 1: down with that. You know, like I don't I don't
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Speaker 1: want to be sitting there looking at stats and you know,
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Speaker 1: pushing ads all the time, and you know, it's just
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Speaker 1: not what music's about, and it's well not not to
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Speaker 1: us anyway. I mean I understand from like an industry
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Speaker 1: point of view, but really, when we dissolve, when we
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Speaker 1: took that break from the band, all of us just
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Speaker 1: we kind of realized when we when we started talking
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Speaker 1: and we got back together, that none of us really
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Speaker 1: cared about being part of the industry anymore. You know,
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Speaker 1: we're just we're doing it because we love it. We
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Speaker 1: love playing music.
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Speaker 3: It's great.
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Speaker 1: We've got a good fan base already. If that grows,
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Speaker 1: that's fantastic. If it doesn't grow, then it's not meant
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Speaker 1: to be. And you know, we're happy with what we've
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Speaker 1: built over the last nine years. You know, possibilities have
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Speaker 1: been able to get out to the States and do tours.
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Speaker 1: You know, they'd they'd be cool in the future, but
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Speaker 1: we'd also be quite selective of what we do because
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Speaker 1: we're just we got to a point where we burnt
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Speaker 1: out for a reason. Man, Like that twenty nineteen was
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Speaker 1: jam Pack, Like we're in Japan, Europe, we did the
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Speaker 1: Satiric on tour for DL. It was just like a
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Speaker 1: whole year on the road. And after that, like it
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Speaker 1: pushed my guitar player Tom, who's basically like my right
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Speaker 1: hand man and man in this project, like him and
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Speaker 1: I call the shots, and you know, it pushed him
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Speaker 1: to go, man, I can't keep doing this.
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Speaker 3: I need to go do an apprenticeship or get my
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Speaker 3: life sort of in order.
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Speaker 1: And we just said, okay, well, for that reason, we'll
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Speaker 1: take a back seat, and you know, we sort of
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Speaker 1: put it on ice for a bit, and what we
13:33
Speaker 1: want to make sure that we don't do is do
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Speaker 1: that again. So we are you know, we realized it
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Speaker 1: was you know, we lost a lot of not momentum,
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Speaker 1: because I mean, fuck momentum. Really it's you know, it's
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Speaker 1: it's music. But we lost a lot of like familiarity
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Speaker 1: with like what we did, and we had to sort
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Speaker 1: of re establish that in a good way, which is,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's nice, but to do that twice, I
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Speaker 1: think it would be too exhausting. So for us, it's
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Speaker 1: about long deevity. It's about still being here in ten
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Speaker 1: years in some kind of way, shape or form, and
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Speaker 1: not succumbing to sort of having to pull the pin
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Speaker 1: at any point because of you know, any external pressures
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Speaker 1: that just they're not improving the music, so they don't.
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Speaker 2: Matter devas right. I You mentioned it before, a long
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Speaker 2: term change in musical direction with this album, So can
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Speaker 2: you elaborate on that a bit more?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? Sure.
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Speaker 1: So in twenty eighteen, late twenty eighteen, we put an
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Speaker 1: album out called Dirge. Now Dirge was It was released
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Speaker 1: on Tallheim Records when we were signed to them. An
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Speaker 1: Austrian label, and that was following up a really experimental
14:43
Speaker 1: record that we put out called The Liquid Sky. Now
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Speaker 1: that was the band sort of evolving into a touring
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Speaker 1: unit quite heavily at that point, and we all sat
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Speaker 1: in the studio and we wrote together, and we tracked
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Speaker 1: everything together. Everybody tracked their own parts, tried to bring
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Speaker 1: something to the table. And the songwriting on that record's
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Speaker 1: pretty great really as as far as songwriting goes. And
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Speaker 1: I know that Heavy covered it as well, so it's
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Speaker 1: it's in your review catalog somewhere. But yeah, like it
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Speaker 1: just wasn't it wasn't feeling right. You know, it was
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Speaker 1: too eclectic, it was too unfocused, and you know, to
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Speaker 1: simplify that a little bit, we just went right back
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Speaker 1: to sort of what we were, you know.
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Speaker 3: What do we want to do here? And we didn't
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Speaker 3: want to go.
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Speaker 1: Back into the depressive kind of black metally stuff straight out,
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Speaker 1: so we started making a conscious effort to kind of
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Speaker 1: keep the music still atmospheric, but make we put like
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Speaker 1: a code on it in a way, like if the
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Speaker 1: melodies weren't dark in the sense that there was some
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Speaker 1: kind of twisted kind of evil, diminished kind of feeling
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Speaker 1: to them. Then they went in the bin and we
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Speaker 1: stopped letting things come through.
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Speaker 3: That were sort of questionable.
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Speaker 1: So Dirge, Yeah, there's a track on there that I
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Speaker 1: don't think fits that would be I can't even remember
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Speaker 1: what it's called. We never played it. It's got a big,
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Speaker 1: like rock guitar solo in it, It's melodic. It's the
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Speaker 1: eighth track on the record. I haven't listened to it
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Speaker 1: since I've skipped it. And you know, the rest of
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Speaker 1: that record's pretty great. A production shit house because the
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Speaker 1: person that was meant to mix it wasn't able to
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Speaker 1: mix it about two weeks out from the due date,
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Speaker 1: so I ended up mixing it and I'd never mixed
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Speaker 1: a record, but that started that as well, as you know,
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Speaker 1: I started to become more in charge of our production,
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Speaker 1: and yeah, from there it was like we did The
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Speaker 1: Grand Disillusionment, which is like really filthy, strange Carpathy and
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Speaker 1: Forrest kind of inspired nineties black metal with like a
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Speaker 1: bit of a twist to it, and that's also quite crusty,
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Speaker 1: and that album was pretty dirty from the start to
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Speaker 1: the finish. Funnily enough, when you look at our stats
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Speaker 1: on like platforms where people buy music like band camp.
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Speaker 1: It seems to have actually done the best, maybe because
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Speaker 1: of its cult following. And then we released an album
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Speaker 1: called a Portrait of Sacrificial Scars after that, which was
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Speaker 1: sort of we were just trying to sum up what
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Speaker 1: we'd done as a band because we knew that we
17:15
Speaker 1: weren't doing it anymore after that record. And then that
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Speaker 1: album just kind of sat there blowing in the breeze
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Speaker 1: for a bit about I.
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Speaker 3: Think three or three years or something.
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Speaker 1: Three years were we were officially disbanded, and yeah, then
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Speaker 1: from the from the EP onwards, we were like, okay,
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Speaker 1: well that album was great, so we'll leave it where
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Speaker 1: it was. But it's still you know, it was never
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Speaker 1: meant to be another step forward, so we continue that
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Speaker 1: Dirge Grand Disillusionment step forward, and it just got darker
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Speaker 1: and more dissonant, you know, listening to a lot more
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Speaker 1: bands at this stage, like despell Amiga, lots of bands
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Speaker 1: like you know, Ulcerate from New Zealand, and you know,
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Speaker 1: more like avant garde death metal, strange bands, Pads a
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Speaker 1: Fold from Canada, heaps of heaps of cool bands like that.
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Speaker 1: That sort of they changed the way, they changed my
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Speaker 1: experimentation process on the guitar and sort of got me
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Speaker 1: looking at different sounds and ideas. And so this continuation
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Speaker 1: of sound is us pushing that envelope into how how
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Speaker 1: weird can it get but still be palatable, you know,
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Speaker 1: what can we do to keep it interesting for us,
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Speaker 1: you know, and still sort of deliver it in this
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Speaker 1: this package that people know the band for.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess that's that's the best summary of it
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Speaker 3: that you.
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Speaker 2: Made me understand it.
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Speaker 3: Anyway, Cool job done.
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Speaker 2: I have that live shows. Maybe you got any shows
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Speaker 2: or tours coming up?
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Speaker 4: We do.
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Speaker 1: So we've got a show in Melbourne on the last
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Speaker 1: weekend of January, so that's on the Friday, I think
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Speaker 1: it's the thirty first of Jam. Now the next day
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Speaker 1: we're playing in Sydney and that's unannounced, so there will
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Speaker 1: be a Sydney date, and I believe Penner still waiting
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Speaker 1: on final confirmation before that's before that's out, but I
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Speaker 1: believe the artwork is now being drafted up and everything's
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Speaker 1: been sorted out. We've just done Adelaide twice like this
19:17
Speaker 1: year at the end of last year. This year, we've
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Speaker 1: just done Adelaide twice at a row we are coming
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Speaker 1: back to Melbourne. We have also done Melbourne pretty recently
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Speaker 1: as well. And with Brisbane it's been a bit difficult
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Speaker 1: because the there's a great promoter there who we talked
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Speaker 1: to quite regularly and we tried to make some stuff work,
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Speaker 1: but we're in the middle of moving house and I
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Speaker 1: miscommunity I miscommunicated with her about the being able to
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Speaker 1: confirm one hundred percent about a date, and she was
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Speaker 1: looking into it for me, and then she came back
19:52
Speaker 1: to me with the date. So this is my fault,
19:54
Speaker 1: taking it on me. But she was coming back to
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Speaker 1: me with a date and then she said, hey, we've
19:57
Speaker 1: booked it. It's done, and I was like, oh, that's cool.
19:59
Speaker 1: I was actually just wondering if there are any venues
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Speaker 1: available first, or you know, what's going on. So she's
20:06
Speaker 1: in our back pocket. She's a good friend of ours.
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Speaker 1: We're trying, you know, otherwise. There's there's a few festivals
20:12
Speaker 1: in Brisbane that might be nice to get on. But
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Speaker 1: you've probably gathered from what I was saying before. We're
20:18
Speaker 1: not really in a hurry.
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Speaker 3: To pack our books.
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Speaker 1: Too much, especially with with tour dates and things like that,
20:26
Speaker 1: because it's just you know, it is a strain and
20:30
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people in Australia that aren't
20:32
Speaker 1: playing in bands don't realize that that coming from w A,
20:37
Speaker 1: you know, we'd have to stay over over East for
20:39
Speaker 1: a whole week or play you know, crappy midweek shows
20:42
Speaker 1: that you know, the state of living is just no
20:45
Speaker 1: one's able to go out on a Tuesday night and
20:47
Speaker 1: go to a gig anymore unless it's you know, huge
20:50
Speaker 1: and it's worth mortgage in your house for. But we
20:53
Speaker 1: definitely don't don't demand that sort of response. So yeah,
20:58
Speaker 1: it's one of those things like it'll it'll all happen
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Speaker 1: at one point. You know, we'd love to get out
21:02
Speaker 1: to Tazzy. We've got good contacts there. We did have
21:06
Speaker 1: Tazzy dates in the works alongside this Melbourne Sydney thing,
21:09
Speaker 1: but it was just getting too packed and you know,
21:12
Speaker 1: we'll get there, get there, you know.
21:14
Speaker 2: In the meantime, the album The Dark Enlightenment is out,
21:17
Speaker 2: so where can people get a copy of that and
21:19
Speaker 2: find out more about shows and stuff.
21:22
Speaker 1: So it's on band camp, you know. We we post
21:27
Speaker 1: semi regularly on Facebook. Two we've got Instagram, so you know,
21:33
Speaker 1: if you just search dead space, Australia anywhere you pretty
21:36
Speaker 1: much find everything you need.
21:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, band Camp.
21:40
Speaker 1: It's available, I think at the moment, because we had
21:43
Speaker 1: to do pre orders.
21:46
Speaker 3: Then it's set at a dollar for the record.
21:49
Speaker 1: But when I get off this interview, I'll go back
21:52
Speaker 1: and I'll set it to name your price, because that's
21:55
Speaker 1: just what we do for digital music. We get a
21:57
Speaker 1: lot of nice people that donate stuff. But the main
21:59
Speaker 1: thing is like most of the people that are really
22:02
Speaker 1: into this kind of music are living in places that
22:05
Speaker 1: they can't put much more than twenty cents into a record,
22:08
Speaker 1: and that's fine, you know, like to cut them off
22:10
Speaker 1: for me just feels like, why are you playing this
22:12
Speaker 1: kind of music if you don't want people to enjoy it?
22:16
Speaker 3: Then?
22:16
Speaker 1: Speaking about you know, the sort of free option we're
22:19
Speaker 1: on Spotify, we do quite well on Spotify, surprisingly considering
22:23
Speaker 1: we don't really we don't really push it or endorse
22:26
Speaker 1: it publicly too much, but yeah, it's all on there
22:30
Speaker 1: as far as show announcements go, Facebook, Instagram. We don't
22:34
Speaker 1: annoy people with mailing lists or anything like that. You know,
22:38
Speaker 1: if you want to come get it, you know, and
22:41
Speaker 1: word of mouth, you know, if you know, if we're
22:43
Speaker 1: coming somewhere and people like what we're doing and it's
22:46
Speaker 1: in your city or you know, then that's probably the
22:49
Speaker 1: best way to hear about anything these days.
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Speaker 4: why got shots that start?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 6: ship stool where else?
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Speaker 6: I saw that calls the real songs, especially.
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