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Ep. 34 P0740 Still On After XJ Solenoid Swap · Jeep Talk Show

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Wednesday, November
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2nd, Episode number 34.
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It's that time again. XJ
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Talk Show is on the air.
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Okay, so it's a podcast, but you know
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what I mean. Anyway, here's Tony.
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I love that announcement. That's great.
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Thank you. It's good to be here.
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This is Tony. I'm a motor Roy on XJ
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talk.com. And this is a
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podcast about Jeep Cherokees.
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We have a nice little website, XJ
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talk.com, where we talk about Jeep
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Cherokees and pretty much
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everything under the sun.
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And some things that are hidden by the
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sun. Dark, dank things.
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But that's usually what happens when a
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bunch of testosterone
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filled men get together.
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We'd like to have women on the site, but
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we just don't know how to behave well
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enough to have women
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stick around very long.
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Yeah, it's sad, but it's true. I don't
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know how we get married and keep women
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around us very long.
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I guess we know how to behave just long
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enough. I have a theory that men mature
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through junior high, and
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then that's when it ends.
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Everything else is just
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us pretending to be mature.
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I know the neighbors think that every
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time I drive away on the Jeep. Actually,
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we've added a couple of Jeeps.
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I did mention one on a previous podcast.
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We had picked up a 1999 Jeep
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Cherokee for my wife to drive.
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My hopes, and I'm not sure if I
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articulated it on a prior podcast, but my
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hopes were that that 99 Cherokee would
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wind up being a first
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vehicle for my two daughters.
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My further hope was to get my wife a TJ,
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so that would allow us to live a wish
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that we had both had from our early
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adulthood to have a Jeep Wrangler.
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That's worked out as well, so I'm very
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pleased that we were able to get a 2003
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Jeep Wrangler TJ six cylinder.
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It is the same exact red that I have on
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the 98 Jeep Cherokee.
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It's the, I believe, PR4 paint code,
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Chrysler paint code that I have on the 98
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and now on the 2003.
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Yeah, I know this is a Jeep Cherokee
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podcast, but I've been having a little
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trouble. I'm sorry, not
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trouble. I guess it's trouble.
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I guess anytime you have something of
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some sort of trouble, it could be good.
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But I've been picking out things to go on
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the Wrangler, and the
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Wrangler came with a hardtop.
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I did that on purpose because I didn't
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want to find that we needed a hardtop
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later and then go spend the $2,500 for a
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replacement, like
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Bestop sells replacements.
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And so we got a hardtop. To my amazement,
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my wife absolutely loves driving the
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Wrangler without the hardtop on.
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And it does have the full doors, so I was
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just really surprised because I thought
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it would be too loud and too windy for
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her. Not at all. Loves it.
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So we've ordered a Bestop bikini top, and
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there was a discussion about should it be
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a solid cloth or a mesh.
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I was thinking mesh. Mesh would have been
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my choice because that allows you to have
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some cover from the sun, but still be
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able to see out and up.
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And also too some blocking of the wind.
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And to my surprise, she thought mesh was
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great too. So ordered that. Kind of
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thought it would be
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in today, but it's not.
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Due to an issue with my solenoid purchase
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that I'm none too happy about,
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I'll just say that right now.
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I ordered some solenoids for my 98 AW4
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transmission because I was getting a
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P0740 code, which was
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basically torque converter lockup.
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And I highly suspected the solenoid, so I
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went ahead and just got a
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whole set for about $200.
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And I thought that was a pretty good deal
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from other prices that I'd
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seen at some other sites.
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I'm trying to remember where I got these
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things from. Anyway,
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I'll get back to that later.
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I do have it on the post on the site so
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you can find out for yourself by looking
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for the torque
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converter lockup solenoid post.
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Anyway, I got those solenoids and I
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ordered them back in late part of August,
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maybe early part of September.
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No, it was the early part of September.
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And didn't get around to
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replacing them until last weekend.
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And I was really very, very easy to
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install. The most difficult thing about
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installing the solenoids is putting the
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19 bolts back in the
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transmission case cover.
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That seemed like it took forever. But at
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least I was laying on my
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back and nice and comfortable.
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But anyway, I went ahead and did a fluid
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and filter change since
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I had everything apart.
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And it really is just as simple as taking
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the pan off, draining the pan, taking the
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pan off, and dropping the filter.
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And actually don't drop the
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filter, it's really messy.
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Dropping the filter and then one bolt
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holds each solenoid in. There's just a
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bracket and one electrical connection.
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And took those off. The ones that I got
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were significantly larger, longer than
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the ones that were in there.
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Anyway, had some discussions with fellow
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admin, Ms. Mornberg. Very helpful.
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We worked it out, figured that these
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solenoids were the right solenoids, but
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they were just larger.
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Which, you know, larger is not initially
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a bad thing as long as it fits and works.
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Anyway, got all the stuff back in and
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test drove it. Was very happy that it
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actually shifted properly.
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And then went to work the next day.
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And I guess within two or three miles, I
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got to check engine light.
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And I was able to pull the code by using
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my handy dandy Android application, Torq.
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I used the free copy of Torq and I have a
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Elm 327 Bluetooth OBD2 scanner.
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And I can just hook that up to the OBD2
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port on my Cherokee and I've got it just
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sitting in front of the seat.
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So it's out of the way of my feet. And
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then it communicates through Bluetooth
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with my Android phone.
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And I can monitor the OBD2 information.
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Boy, I'm saying OBD2 so much that I'm
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starting to mess up.
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I can monitor the OBD2 information from
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my Android phone that I've got adhered to
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the windshield of the Cherokee.
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So it's pretty cool. I can see speed,
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various temperatures, O2
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sensor reactions within limits.
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And so I'm able to pull codes and clear
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codes and so on and so forth.
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Anyway, I was able to pull the code
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through some gyrations.
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And it was a P0740, which is a multitude
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of issues, but basically it's talking
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about the Torq converter not locking up.
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So I was a little surprised by that. I
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cleared the code and continued on.
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Well, it's been, well, I guess it's just
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been the three days that I've been
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driving at Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday.
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And I finally put it together today. The
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Torq converter is not locking up. It is,
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it's not locking up at all.
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And I'm getting that code, I'm getting
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the check engine light and the P0740 code
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after I hit about 50 miles an hour for a
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few seconds, you know, maybe 30 seconds.
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And what it's doing, I believe, is it's
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saying the Torq converter is not locking
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up. Let's throw a code.
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And from where I live and go into work
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and where I work coming home, it takes
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two or three miles before I get to a
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point where I can drive
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about 50 miles an hour.
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And the point of that is, is that the
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Torq converter doesn't lock up until you
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get into third gear and it has to be at a
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stable speed in third gear before it
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actually tries to lock up.
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So I went from a situation where I
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occasionally had problems getting the
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Torq converter locked up to,
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and then throwing the code.
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And I had gone for several weeks without
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having the code come up. So I've gone
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from the occasional
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issue to a constant issue.
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So I called the fine people that I got
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the solenoid from who have a 30-day
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warranty on their siltenoids.
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And it was already past that, but I
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thought I would call anyway. You never
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know. You check with
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people, you check with companies.
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They have policies because people abuse
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things. I certainly
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understand that. And it's my fault.
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I should have installed and found the
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problem within the 30
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days that they gave me.
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Well, I got a very nice lady on the phone
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and we discussed it. And basically I
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said, you know, it's outside the 30 days.
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I don't know if there's some testing that
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I can do to show you guys that this
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solenoid is bad, etc., etc.
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And she says, well, it's a piece of
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electrical equipment and it's guaranteed
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to work when it leaves us.
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And in that brief moment between when she
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said that and me saying the
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next thing, I just didn't...
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I thought of that and I said, I thought
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to myself, this is a little silly
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because, you know, I
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could say that myself.
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It was perfectly fine whenever it left
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here. Well, where's the proof of that?
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I mean, I feel... I either installed
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something wrong, something
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broke that I was not aware of...
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Let's see, how can I say this? Something
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broke that just happened to break at the
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same time that I made this change.
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Or the solenoid's bad and I'm out the
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money. I mean, it's
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completely useless to me.
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So anyway, I really don't have time to
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drive around without a torque converter
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locking up because obviously
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the issues can be that you...
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Where the bands... I'm sorry, where the
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clutch pads too much because you're not
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getting into a lockup condition.
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I guess fortunately, maybe it's
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unfortunate for the transmission, but
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fortunately the path that I take to and
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from work, I go some back roads.
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I don't get on the highway and I'm not
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driving 70 miles an hour with a torque
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converter that's not locked up.
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I do hit periods of roads that I'm going
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50, 55 miles an hour, but there's
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stoplights, there's
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traffic, so on and so forth.
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And surprisingly, it's a shorter trip for
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me. Well, I say surprisingly, it's the
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way the roads are laid out.
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The highways are just too far, I guess,
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out of the way. It winds up
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being about 10 minute longer.
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I go faster, but it takes about 10
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minutes longer to get home.
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And while I was having the issues with
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the running hot on the freeway, it was
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actually nice to be able
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to drive on the back roads.
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And it would give the updated cooling
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system time to cool off the engine at
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stoplights and stuff.
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But to solve that, I'm not sure if I
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mentioned that on the other podcast.
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I guess that's the problem with not
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having these podcasts very
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often, which I do apologize.
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I'm going to have to schedule these
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things on the weekend,
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when I have more time.
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During the week, with so many things
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going on. With the website,
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with my job, my personal life,
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I'm just getting the Wrangler and working
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on it and working on the
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98. The 99 has been good.
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But anyway, well, I had to pause the
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recording there for a second
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and lost my train of thought.
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I have, as many of you know, that are on
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the forums, I have four
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outside cameras set up.
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And some people have said, "Gee, you must
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live in a bad
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neighborhood." No, not at all.
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It's just something I always thought
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would be really cool to be able to see
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what's going on outside whenever you're
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comfortably sitting inside.
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No mosquitoes, no heat, no rain, etc.
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Well, I've got a display up just because
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it's fun for me to watch the fruits of my
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labor of installing this thing.
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I've got this little display up and it's
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showing the four. I only got four
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cameras. The four cameras set up.
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And I recently moved one of the cameras
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from lower on the house in the backyard
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to the second floor,
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and shining out or looking out over the
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backyard. And I thought it would be
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really cool to see weather, you know,
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like lightning and so on and so forth.
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So it's 12.10 in the morning on Thursday
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now. So it's quite dark outside, but
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these have our zero lux
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with infrared eliminators.
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So I can see things quite clearly, like
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there's a tree in the backyard, bush, I
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guess, if you want to
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get technical about it.
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It's a good 20 feet tall. But anyway,
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it's probably 30 or 40 feet away from the
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camera, but it's very well lit by the IR
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eliminators on the camera.
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So I can see it and I can see that we're
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actually getting quite a bit of wind and
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I think some rain coming through.
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We must have that cold front coming
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through right now. Anyway,
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I'm sitting here talking.
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I see this creature in front of that
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camera. It's under an eave and there's a
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spot. It's about maybe two feet.
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Where it is, the eave kind of comes out
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from the second floor onto the first
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floor. The living room is on the first
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floor and it has a vaulted ceiling.
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So there's a roof line there, but it's
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lower than the second floor. But it's not
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very far because of the
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vaulting of the ceiling.
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The area is only like two feet wide or
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two feet high between the two. And that's
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where I've got the camera
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mounted under that eave.
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So I see this creature and I'm thinking,
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okay, occasionally I'll see one of those
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wood roaches coming across the lens of
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the camera on various cameras.
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Not very often, but occasionally I pick
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it up. But I see this definite fur. It's
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fur that I'm looking
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at. It's not an insect.
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This is some sort of mammal or something,
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hairy mammal. And then I'm thinking to
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myself, oh my god, is that a rat?
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And I'm still talking to you guys,
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recording the podcast, looking at this
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thing. It kind of moves
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further away from the camera.
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And I'm about 99% sure it was a possum.
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So the possum is probably in the garbage
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or trying to get in
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the garbage right now.
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But I find it interesting that it was
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climbing across the top of the house. And
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that's one of the fun
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things about having this camera.
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I really would like to have more and it
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really would be nice to have one that I
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could, I guess it's called pan and tilt.
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And then of course having a zoom on it
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would be nice too. But anyway, the
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neighbors might have a problem with that.
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I mean, just having one camera up the
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backyard is one thing, even though it's
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not very noticeable. That's one thing.
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But having one that you can pan, tilt,
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zoom might go over
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the edge a bit for some.
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I swear, all I'm doing is looking at
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what's going on in the backyard. I'm not
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looking at what's going on in other
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people's backyards necessarily.
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And certainly not looking at what's going
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on in their house. I don't care. I got
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plenty of stuff in this house to keep an
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eye on without looking
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at stuff in other houses.
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Anyway, I'm sorry, the main reason for
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this podcast was to announce the winner
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of our October giveaway.
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Now, if you're not familiar with our
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October giveaway, let me
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just go over it real quick.
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Yeah, I can't, it's a recording, but I
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hear you. I don't get to
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the point. I understand.
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Anyway, the idea was that we wanted to
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have some giveaways. I've been wanting to
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do giveaways for some time, but we just
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haven't been able to do it.
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We don't have the funds available, as any
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of you that have done
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anything with forums are aware.
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It's a pretty good expense. And it's the
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Internet, so everybody wants free. And it
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makes it very difficult to do giveaways
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because even if you approach vendors that
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may be hoping to profit from advertising
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on your site, they're
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spread pretty thin too.
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Because having a forum set up isn't that
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difficult a thing to do. And if you add
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to that a high unemployment rate, and
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some of those unemployed being IT
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workers, it's really not difficult to set
19:37
up a forum because they've done a lot of
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technical stuff and
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their prior or prior jobs.
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So anyway, the advertisers are spread
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pretty thin. So if you go to an
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advertiser and you say, "Hey, we'd like
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to do a giveaway. You're a very valuable
19:58
vendor on this site, and we know people
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will really like your product, and it'll
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help give you some
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advertisement," and so on and so forth.
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They've got to look at it like how many
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of these things can we afford to do. And
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even if they can afford to do it, it's
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very difficult for them to give you a
20:14
$200 or $300 product.
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So we made the decision that for October,
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November, and December of 2011, we were
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going to have three giveaways. And we
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wanted to do something
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that was fairly substantial.
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Back a few months ago, we did a giveaway
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of the Detours A-pillar Light Mounts. The
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A-pillar Light Mounts are very popular on
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the Jeep Wranglers, but there's not a
20:46
lot, at least not that I've seen, a lot
20:48
of A-pillar Light
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Mounts for Jeep Cherokees.
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So Mark over at Detours, detoursusa.com,
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came up with these light mounts. And we
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had a little contest, and we gave those
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away. And one of the things that the
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winner said was, "Hey, this is great. Now
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I just need lights."
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And, you know, yeah, I know. Beggars
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can't be choosers, but apparently they
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can. And not that our winner was a
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beggar. It's just a saying. Sorry, Pat.
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Anyway, Pat has an excuse. He's been
21:26
struck in the head by a flag from a golf
21:30
course. Anyway, so I thought about it,
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and I thought, "Well, you know, maybe
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what we should do is start our giveaway
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with a set of, you know,
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a set of detours A-pillar Light Mounts,
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and we'll throw in some lights." Now, I
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started to ask on the forum what would be
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the best lights to give away, and I
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didn't want to get into all that, because
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everybody has their own idea.
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And I like KC's. So that's what I got. I
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like the KC highlighter. I'm sorry,
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highlights, daylighters. I've got four of
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them on the front of my Jeep. They're
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nice. I've always liked KC
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lights, and that's what we got.
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So we got two of those, and I do not,
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absolutely do not like those yellow
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covers with the crappy a** smiley faces
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on those KC lights. They are horrible.
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Now, you know, it's great that they
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include those things. It's great because
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it does protect the lenses, even though
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they're hardened plastic lenses.
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I just, you know, I don't like them. And
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also, too, they tend to melt if you turn
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the lights on because you're trying to
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get somebody the a** out of your way.
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So the alternative to that is the nice
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high-impact plastic KC covers, and it
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says KC on the front like it's supposed
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to, not some smiley face. So we threw in
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a pair of those covers, and I went ahead
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with the black, even though some of the
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other colors, like red or black,
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or silver, or even yellow, appealed to me
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more. I figured black would mean that
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there would be less grief from the people
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that saw it, and certainly
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the person that received it.
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So anyway, two 8-pillar mounts, two KC
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lights, the wiring harness with the two
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KC lights that comes with it, and the
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high-impact plastic covers, which are,
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you can run those lights, well, the
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100-watt lights, with those covers on.
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So now you have protection for the
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lights, you have a look cool for the
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lights, and you can use them. So you
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don't have to get out and pop the covers
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off, because there's going to be times,
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legal or not, whenever you
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need to see on public roads.
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And most of the time it's going to be
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whenever it's really bad weather out. And
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you know the way I look at it is, if I
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need to see, and I'm not keeping other
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people from seeing, then
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they're going to be turned on.
24:06
And I'm going to be able to see where I'm
24:07
going. And if a cop wants to pull me over
24:11
and discuss it, that's fine. I'll tell
24:13
him what my rational thinking, my
24:15
rationale, what I was thinking.
24:18
And if he wants to give me a ticket,
24:19
that's fine. I'll explain it to the
24:20
judge. And if he doesn't want to listen
24:22
to it, then I'll pay the fine.
24:24
But the nice thing is, is that I'll be
24:26
safe, my family will be safe, and the
24:30
Jeep probably won't be damaged as a
24:32
result. So you know, sometimes you just
24:35
got to do what you think's best. Even if
24:37
the law says otherwise. Sometimes you
24:39
find out you're wrong.
24:40
But anyway, that's all we can do, is to
24:44
think and do our best.
24:45
So anyway, back to the contest. I'm
24:51
sorry, the giveaway. Not a
24:52
contest, it's a giveaway.
24:55
Anyway, the way to get this item, or
25:01
these items, was to have the most posts
25:05
in the month of October. And that was
25:08
from midnight, October 1st, Central Time,
25:12
to midnight, October
25:14
31st, Halloween, 2011.
25:19
And we had a lot of posts. And for the
25:24
first 15 days, we were posting up the
25:28
results of the number of posts who had
25:31
the most posts. And one person really
25:35
pulled away in those 15 days. They were
25:40
well ahead of everybody else.
25:41
And we're talking about the number two
25:45
person, not including myself. I'm
25:48
technically the number two person on this
25:50
because I post a lot. But of course, I'm
25:53
not going to take the prize myself. Even
25:56
though I'm sure I
25:57
could if I'd really tried.
25:58
I wasn't even trying. I was just
25:59
responding to posts. And I think I had
26:03
over 500 posts for the month. I suspect
26:07
if I go back and look, I probably post
26:09
that much every month.
26:10
It's easy to do because, you know, I go
26:13
on and I start up little stories, little
26:16
goofy things that I think of. And like,
26:19
what's the largest steak that you've ever
26:20
eaten? That's a post I did recently. I'm
26:23
quite proud of that. I wouldn't mind
26:26
having a steak right
26:26
now. Anyway, but I digress.
26:28
So a lot of posts and it doesn't matter
26:32
who gets the item for the giveaway. We're
26:35
all winners because there's more posts.
26:39
It's a forum. If there's no posts, people
26:43
don't come. There's no reason for them to
26:47
come and look at nothing.
26:49
So the whole idea was let's give
26:52
something away. Let's get some posts.
26:54
Let's get some people in here and we all
26:56
win because it's going to bring more
26:58
people in here eventually as they do
27:00
Google Google searches and find us.
27:03
And hopefully they'll say, hey, this is a
27:04
really cool Jeep forum. It's different
27:06
than the other the other Jeep
27:08
forums and I'm going to stay.
27:11
So anyway, we had a lot of posts and let
27:15
me just say that the gosh, we're 30
27:19
minutes into this and I haven't said who
27:20
the winner is. Okay. The winner of the
27:24
2011 October giveaway is...
28:04
Yeah, I'm sorry. We're only, I don't
28:06
know. We're only halfway through the
28:09
show. I do need to bring this out to draw
28:12
this out as long as possible. So we'll
28:14
get to the winner here in just a second.
28:17
I'm sorry. I don't
28:18
know what I was thinking.
28:19
So anyway, as you guys are aware, while
28:24
back on a prior podcast, I was talking
28:27
about the 99 Jeep and having issues with
28:30
the cooling system and I was worried that
28:32
maybe I'd blown a head
28:32
gasket and yada, yada, yada, yada.
28:36
The 99 is working perfectly fine. I
28:39
haven't had any issues with it. Now, it
28:41
may quite very well be the case that I
28:45
have a slight head gasket leak and I'm
28:49
going to address that on it. I'm sure
28:51
I'll pull the head and replace the
28:53
gasket, take the head and have it milled
28:55
and so on and so forth and
28:56
just see if we can get it going.
28:57
Get the temperature going back to where
29:00
it was before, which was well below the
29:03
210 before we overheated it,
29:06
dramatically overheated it.
29:08
But as far as running day to day, getting
29:11
back and forth, driving on the freeway,
29:15
perfectly fine. It gets my wife from
29:19
point A to point B and now my daughter,
29:21
she has, my oldest
29:22
daughter has her learner's permit.
29:26
And she's driving it every day when my
29:29
wife drives over to the school to pick
29:31
her up and then Cassie jumps in the
29:34
driver's seat and drives it back home.
29:36
Actually, I think they cruise around a
29:37
little bit and then if Cassie has to go
29:40
to work, she drives the back roads over
29:44
to the mall where she works at and then
29:47
her mom goes and gets
29:48
her and she drives home.
29:50
So the Jeep Cherokee, I feel very
29:54
comfortable with them driving the Jeep
29:56
Cherokee. We've got new BF Goodrich AT
30:01
tires on it. It's looking pretty good.
30:04
It's a Cherokee. I still want to lift it.
30:07
But one thing I do need to do is the
30:11
wheel bearing assemblies are a little
30:14
noisy and have been
30:14
since we first got it.
30:16
So I was going to order some of those,
30:18
some Timiken wheel bearing assemblies for
30:22
the other day and I was surprised to find
30:23
that there are two types.
30:25
There's one for the cast iron rotor and
30:30
there's one for the, I think it's a
30:32
two-piece composite rotor.
30:36
So I guess what I need to do is just, I
30:39
probably could just do it without looking
30:41
at the, taking the wheel off and looking
30:44
at it, but I think there's some
30:45
differences in the measurements of the
30:47
wheel studs and I probably need to pull
30:50
the wheel off, look at it and also
30:52
measure the wheel studs
30:53
so I get the right one.
30:55
Now I'm either remembering incorrectly or
30:57
there's been a dramatic price drop
30:59
because when I replaced the wheel bearing
31:02
assemblies on my 98 when I had about
31:06
100,000 miles on the odometer, I thought
31:11
I paid $150 a piece for
31:13
those Timiken bearings.
31:15
And what I'm seeing now is about 75 or 80
31:21
bucks per Timiken bearing.
31:24
So that basically means the price is half
31:28
of what I thought I remember paying for
31:31
it a couple of years ago. Well, probably
31:34
three years ago now.
31:36
And maybe I'm just remembering wrong, but
31:38
anyway, I'm happy because I didn't like
31:41
spending the, I think it was, gosh, maybe
31:44
it wasn't 150. I think maybe I
31:45
found them cheaper than that.
31:47
I really, really think that I paid around
31:50
$270, $250, $270 for a pair of those
31:56
wheel bearings. And I thought that was
31:59
god-awful at the time, god-awfully
32:01
expensive at the time and still do.
32:04
But now I'm looking at 150 for the 99 and
32:13
I really need to get those. And the other
32:16
day I was thinking, you know, I'm
32:17
concerned about those
32:18
wheel bearings making noise.
32:22
And I think I had just gotten out of the
32:24
98 and I was walking into the house after
32:26
getting home and I was thinking about
32:28
this because, you know, my wife and my
32:30
children are riding in this vehicle and I
32:32
don't want it to have a problem.
32:34
I certainly don't want
32:35
a wheel bearing to fail.
32:38
And I thought about it and I remembered
32:41
the wheel on Scott, XJ4IV's Cherokee,
32:47
that was leaning at about a 45 degree
32:50
angle because his wheel
32:51
bearing assembly had a problem.
32:52
And I stopped and I turned and I looked
32:55
at the 99 that was there parked in the
32:58
driveway and I looked at the tire and the
33:01
wheel and it was perfectly straight.
33:03
And I moved over to the other one and it
33:05
was perfectly straight and I thought to
33:07
myself, you know, I
33:08
probably have a few days.
33:10
I probably don't need to be worried about
33:12
getting the Timken bearings ordered today
33:16
because it could be much worse.
33:19
There have been people, and I won't
33:22
mention any names, Scott, driving on
33:25
wheel bearing
33:26
assemblies that were so far gone.
33:31
Well, the Jeep could have stopped and the
33:32
wheel could have kept going and it
33:36
probably will eventually someday somehow.
33:38
Although he's got it broke down right now
33:41
because he's trying to switch over to
33:44
some Dana 60s and I guess that will be
33:48
less of an issue when he
33:50
gets the Dana 60s on it.
33:51
Although I think it's going to be more of
33:53
an expense issue when he
33:54
does have to replace parts.
33:56
Still, I'm looking forward to that. I
33:58
think some nice full size, good God, what
34:01
are those things? Two ton axles under a
34:05
vehicle that weighs 2,800 pounds.
34:08
It's great. I'm serious though. I think
34:12
it really looks cool.
34:14
And if I had an off-road only rig, I
34:18
think it would be a lot of fun to put
34:20
some full size Dana 60s in it.
34:23
I think it would be cool to have
34:24
steerable front and back. Not that it
34:27
would be of any great use, any real
34:30
purpose, but I think it would be fun to
34:32
have a rear steerable Dana 60 axle on the
34:35
Cherokee and just be able
34:37
to walk that thing around.
34:39
Anyway, so back to the giveaways. I
34:44
mentioned the October giveaway. The
34:45
October giveaway has ended. We do have a
34:47
winner. We'll be announcing the winner
34:49
shortly, which is the
34:50
reason for the podcast.
34:53
The reason why I made myself do it
34:55
tonight. I did have a nice nap.
34:57
So I was sitting here scanning the site,
35:01
chatting online with the few people that
35:04
are in chat late night, and said, "I got
35:08
to stop goofing around and I got to get
35:09
this podcast going."
35:11
Anyway, so I was mentioning earlier that
35:14
we came up with the giveaways that we
35:16
were going to do for October, November,
35:18
December. Now we're into November. We
35:20
started our next giveaway.
35:21
I was very, very happy. I had a
35:24
conversation with Mark at detoursusa.com
35:29
back in October, first part of October,
35:31
and I was talking about the
35:33
giveaways we were going to have.
35:34
And I was trying to think of what we
35:37
could do for a giveaway
35:38
in November and December.
35:42
And he mentioned that he had a new
35:45
product called a knuckle bone. And the
35:49
knuckle bone is a really cool idea, as
35:51
Mark's ideas usually are.
35:54
And it's basically a tire carrier that
35:56
fits in the 2-inch receiver of your
35:59
trailer hitch, if you have one.
36:02
And the cool thing about it is that it's
36:05
small. It doesn't weigh very much. It
36:09
serves a very useful purpose getting a
36:13
too large of a tire to really put in the
36:16
back of your Jeep and
36:18
carry anything else in there.
36:21
Because I carried a 32-inch 11.5x15 in
36:24
the back of mine for a while until I got
36:26
the first detourish product that I
36:28
bought, which was the
36:29
slimline bumper with tire carrier.
36:32
And it's really cool. I mean, it's a lot
36:35
of fun to have something that is not what
36:40
came with the vehicle. I remember when I
36:42
put that slimline bumper on and I had
36:45
that big 32-inch tire
36:46
bolted onto the tire carrier.
36:48
It just felt like an off-road vehicle. It
36:53
no longer was just the pretty red
36:56
grocery-getter that we had had for 9 or
36:59
10 years. It's more of
37:01
an off-road vehicle now.
37:02
I mean, I knew what the vehicle was
37:03
capable of, but the
37:08
civilians out there, they don't know.
37:11
And that's why a lot of them are
37:13
impressed with Hummers because the H2s,
37:17
because they're big, they're square, and
37:19
they look different.
37:21
Those of us that know about off-roading
37:23
know that they're more for show than
37:26
practical off-road use.
37:28
And there's absolutely nothing wrong with
37:30
that. There's nothing wrong with having a
37:31
nice looking vehicle. There's nothing
37:33
wrong with having a head turner.
37:35
What you do with it, you paid for it.
37:37
What you do with it is your choice.
37:41
And I say that because I like having mine
37:45
off-road capable, but it being a daily
37:48
driver, I need to take care of it so I
37:50
can get back and forth to work.
37:52
And take a lot of razzing on the side
37:55
about that. That's fine. People can use
37:57
their Jeeps for
37:58
whatever purpose they want.
38:00
I'm not going to, not in reality, give
38:03
them a hard time. And just,
38:05
I'll give them a hard time.
38:07
But anyway, having the tire carrier on
38:10
there was really cool.
38:12
So Mark has come out with his
38:14
knucklebone, which is basically a really
38:16
easy and much less expensive way of being
38:21
able to carry a tire, a spare tire, on
38:24
your rig at a much lower center of
38:26
gravity than if you would,
38:28
than if you had it on top of the roof.
38:32
And it gives you the ability to still
38:35
carry things in your cargo area.
38:38
I mean, actually the entire cargo area is
38:41
now available to you for camping or
38:43
whatever, and you've got a
38:44
spare tire. How great is that?
38:47
So Mark says, "Hey, I'm going to be
38:51
having the knucklebone
38:52
come out pretty soon."
38:54
And I said, "Well, would you, I don't
38:59
know how long it's going to be before
39:01
you'll actually have them available, but
39:03
would you have it available
39:05
for like a December giveaway?
39:08
Because I'll get one from you, and we'll
39:11
do that as a giveaway. Do a little
39:13
promoting of the
39:14
knucklebone and detours."
39:16
And he says, "Oh, it'll be ready this
39:20
month," which was October. And I said,
39:22
"Well, could we get
39:25
one for November then?"
39:26
And he says, "Yeah,
39:27
sure." So I said, "Great."
39:30
And fortunately, I was just mentioning
39:34
earlier about the vendors, various
39:36
vendors, are getting spread pretty thin
39:37
on the various forums.
39:39
And it's hard to get people to, hard to
39:43
get vendors to give away their products.
39:46
Mark is actually doing
39:48
50% of this thing for me.
39:50
So we were very lucky to have a great
39:56
vendor like Mark and detours to provide
39:59
us with this product.
40:02
And very happy to be able to give it to
40:05
one lucky person on the site.
40:09
So it's ready. Mark's got it built, and
40:16
he sent me some
40:16
pictures of the actual item.
40:19
He took the XJ Talk sticker that I sent
40:21
him a while back and put that on the
40:25
knucklebone, which I
40:26
thought was pretty cool.
40:27
He's got a detour sticker on there,
40:28
obviously, for very good reason.
40:31
Is this a beautiful, beautiful work of
40:34
art, which is what I've
40:35
come to expect from Mark?
40:37
I have three of his
40:39
products on my vehicle.
40:41
The Slimline bumper with tire carrier, a
40:46
custom front winch bumper, and now have
40:49
his sliders with
40:51
frame stiffeners on there.
40:52
And that has a bit of a
40:53
custom work done to it as well.
40:56
And just beautiful, beautiful work.
40:59
I love having it on my Jeep. My Jeep
41:01
means a lot to me, and it means a lot to
41:04
me having things on there
41:06
that are as nice as my Jeep.
41:10
And again, you don't care what your Jeep
41:14
looks like. It makes your blood curdle
41:16
when you say nice
41:17
looking Jeep. That's fine.
41:20
That's the way you look at it. That's not
41:23
the way I look at it.
41:24
I like the way my Jeep looks, and I want
41:28
it to perform well,
41:29
and I think it does both.
41:31
Anyway, so I got some pictures of the
41:34
knucklebone, the one that he specifically
41:36
made for our giveaway.
41:37
He's got it all stickered up, and I've
41:41
posted that up on Facebook, on the XJ
41:43
Talk site on Facebook, and of course on
41:46
the xjtalk.com forum.
41:49
And I had to come up with a way of how we
41:53
would determine who would get this item.
41:57
And what we came up with, and when I say
41:59
we, I mean me, I don't want to blame
42:01
anybody else for this,
42:05
I like the idea of having more people
42:10
come and register on the site.
42:11
And I have a firm belief that when people
42:14
try out xjtalk.com, they'll see a big
42:18
difference from the other sites.
42:20
A positive big difference. And they'll
42:24
enjoy the site, they'll interact with the
42:26
site and interact with the people.
42:28
So I wanted to try to do something to get
42:31
people to the site and in large numbers.
42:34
So, again, during the period of November,
42:39
because we don't want to give people that
42:41
haven't been on or haven't been doing as
42:44
much as others the
42:46
inability to win this giveaway.
42:50
So, during the month of November, from
42:53
November 1st, midnight through November
42:56
30th, I think I put
42:58
in the post, 23.59.99,
43:02
as close to midnight as you can get.
43:06
Whoever has the most referrals and the
43:12
most posts from those people that they
43:15
referred will get this giveaway item.
43:18
I know it's a little complex. I
43:21
understand that and I apologize.
43:23
And the reason for that is this. If we
43:26
just did the referrals, it would be very
43:29
easy for somebody to cheat.
43:31
And because you can go to the Google and
43:35
Hotmail and so on and so forth and create
43:39
a near infinite
43:40
number of email addresses.
43:42
And then you go back to the site and you
43:44
register on the site with 5,
43:48
10, 15, 20, whatever it takes.
43:52
And to get this lovely knuckle bone,
43:56
2-inch receiver tire carrier.
44:00
And I wanted to come up with a way that
44:04
would make it a little more difficult.
44:07
Obviously, that is not a
44:10
way to get this giveaway item.
44:12
And if we find that somebody has done
44:15
that, we'll remove those
44:17
referrals from the site.
44:21
It's not fair to everybody else. You
44:25
should be a member on the site.
44:27
You should encourage people to come join
44:29
the site and make sure they put in your
44:32
name that you used on XJTalk as the
44:35
person that referred them.
44:37
Once you have a person on the site, a
44:40
referral, you need to get them to post.
44:44
They have to post a minimum of 2 relevant
44:47
posts. And relevance means
44:50
something that is of interest.
44:54
I don't know. Something about their jeep.
44:57
Something about their day.
45:00
Something interesting. Something that
45:02
isn't just a blatant, "Hello, I'm here.
45:05
I'm trying to win this thing
45:07
for Bubba." You know, whoever.
45:10
And again, the idea is we'll get some
45:13
people on the site.
45:15
We'll get them posting.
45:16
Which is, I think, the hardest thing for
45:17
most people is to make that first post.
45:20
Especially if you get flamed from the
45:22
other sites or other forums.
45:24
Not necessarily jeep forums. Just any
45:25
forums where you go and you expect to get
45:28
flamed on your post.
45:31
You kind of have to get a
45:33
feel of the group and stuff.
45:35
Well, I think that if we get people to
45:37
post, they'll see that we're friendly.
45:40
They'll see that we're
45:41
not going to flame you.
45:42
And I think that once that eyes is
45:44
broken, you're more likely to post more.
45:47
I could be wrong. But anyway, we'll see.
45:50
So you've got to get the person that you
45:52
have referred and then they join and set
45:56
you up as the referral name person.
46:00
They need to make a minimum of 2 posts.
46:03
The cool thing is, is that for each
46:06
referral that you get on
46:08
the site, you get 2 points.
46:11
For each post that they make, relevant
46:13
post, you get 3 points.
46:16
Whoever has the most points by November
46:20
30th gets the knuckle bone.
46:24
So it's not as easy as most posts in the
46:29
month, but it's
46:30
really not that difficult.
46:33
The rules aren't that difficult. You
46:35
basically got to talk to somebody, get
46:38
them to come to XJTalk and register and
46:40
put your name as the
46:41
person that referred them.
46:43
And then they've got to make 2 posts. If
46:46
they don't make 2 relevant posts, that
46:48
referral doesn't count.
46:49
You get 0 points for that referral.
46:54
If they make 2 posts, you get the 2
46:56
points for the referral and
46:58
then 3 points for each post.
47:04
So just one referral with 2 posts is
47:10
going to give you, what is
47:11
it, 6, 7, 8? Is that right?
47:15
8 points. So you can see that if you get
47:18
10 people and they do the minimum, you're
47:22
going to have 80 points.
47:24
At the end of the month, whoever has the
47:26
biggest number gets the knuckle bone.
47:30
Now, we do have several international
47:35
members, and I really apologize that we
47:38
do not have an economical way of shipping
47:42
these things internationally.
47:45
And, you know, I'm sorry guys, I would
47:48
love, love, love to be able to
47:51
get these things over to you.
47:53
New Zealand, Australia, we have a member
47:55
in Japan, we have a member in
47:57
Germany, so on and so forth.
47:59
They all have cheap Cherokees, and these
48:02
products would be wonderful
48:04
to be able to get to them.
48:06
Unfortunately, it's just too
48:08
expensive to ship those things.
48:10
Now, you're more than welcome to compete,
48:13
and if you do win the item, I'm more than
48:17
happy to ship it over to you.
48:20
But I'll need to get the difference from
48:24
what it would be, in the worst case,
48:26
shipping in the 48 US continental United
48:29
States to wherever you are.
48:32
So, I'm more than happy to pay what I was
48:35
going to pay for
48:35
shipping anywhere in the US.
48:38
I'll pay that portion of it, the rest of
48:40
it will be up to you.
48:43
And the other thing we could do is, if
48:46
you win the item and you don't want to
48:49
pay the $97 gazillion to
48:53
have it shipped to you,
48:54
you can always say, "Hey, this is mine,
48:58
but I'm giving it to so-and-so."
49:01
And we can ship it to them as long as
49:04
they're in the United States, or they
49:07
want to pay the difference in shipping.
49:10
Now, we're going, in December, I don't
49:13
want to get too far ahead of myself,
49:14
there was one person complaining that we,
49:17
there's too many giveaways being talked
49:19
about at one time. It's hard to keep up.
49:22
I wouldn't think that that would be a bad
49:24
thing. But anyway, they
49:26
were complaining about it.
49:27
So, with that in mind, I apologize for
49:30
telling you about our December giveaway.
49:32
I'll just mention it briefly.
49:34
In our December giveaway, I am not going
49:38
to get the item until we have a winner.
49:42
And I specifically said the item for a
49:44
reason, because I'm not
49:45
telling you what it is.
49:47
You'll find that out
49:48
probably the last week of November.
49:50
But I'm not going to get that item until
49:52
we have a person to give it to.
49:56
And the nice thing about doing it that
49:58
way means that if an international member
50:02
is to win this item,
50:06
what I'll do is, instead of buying the
50:09
item and then not shipping it to you
50:12
because it costs too much
50:13
money to ship it to you,
50:16
all you need is a PayPal account, and
50:18
I'll just give you the money.
50:20
Yep. You'll get the money for the prize
50:24
instead of the prize.
50:25
And then if you can find
50:26
it where you live, great.
50:29
If you want to buy beer
50:31
with it, great. I don't care.
50:35
It's us at XJTalk thanking you for being
50:40
a member on our site.
50:43
I personally love our international
50:45
members. I've stated it repeatedly.
50:48
I think it is the coolest thing that a
50:52
Jeep that is predominantly thought of as
50:56
an American vehicle,
50:57
I mean, it was from an American car
50:59
manufacturer, obviously
51:00
the parts are from all over,
51:01
but an American car manufacturer, an
51:04
American vehicle, and Germany, Japan, New
51:07
Zealand, Australia, all over.
51:10
And seeing how people in other countries
51:13
use their Jeep and hearing the stories
51:17
about how, like in New Zealand,
51:20
the Jeep Cherokee is looked at as a
51:21
luxury vehicle and anybody that would
51:23
tear theirs up by lifting it and taking
51:28
it, swimming in a river is just insane.
51:33
And these are people that are in their
51:34
Range Rovers, which is
51:36
a luxury vehicle here.
51:39
So it's an interesting, I like that. It's
51:42
fun to learn about other countries and
51:43
how the different customs and how things
51:47
are looked at differently.
51:48
So anyway, love our
51:52
international members.
51:54
But anyway, back to the giveaways. So
51:57
we've got these three giveaways that
51:58
we're going to be doing.
51:59
And there are no plans as of yet for
52:03
January, so on and so
52:05
forth. We'll see how it goes.
52:06
We'll see how these three months of
52:09
giveaways has improved the site, improved
52:14
the member count, improved
52:17
the activity of the site.
52:19
And then we'll reassess. There's
52:23
springtime. There's February. I mean,
52:26
there's the cold months.
52:29
There's all kinds of giveaways we can do.
52:30
And I'll mention really quickly, we kind
52:32
of had a side giveaway going
52:34
on in the month of October.
52:37
We were able to score some gift
52:40
certificates from jeepingoutfitters.com,
52:45
some $25 and $50 gift
52:47
certificates, quite a few of them.
52:49
I think we had eight $25 gift
52:53
certificates and two
52:54
$50 gift certificates.
52:56
And I thought it would be pretty cool to
52:59
have a totally out there giveaway, which
53:04
was just if the moderator likes you, he's
53:07
going to give you a gift certificate.
53:09
And the most difficult thing, and this
53:12
really, really surprised me, the most
53:15
difficult thing about that giveaway was
53:18
getting the moderators to give them away.
53:22
I was reminding them, "Hey, you know, the
53:25
month is wearing on. Would you please
53:27
give a certificate away?"
53:29
There was no qualification necessary. All
53:32
they had to do was like a person.
53:34
If they liked their post, if they liked
53:36
their picture, if they liked the name, if
53:42
they liked the color of
53:43
their jeep, I didn't care.
53:45
It's a gift certificate. These are your
53:48
gift certificates to give away, find
53:50
somebody and give it to them.
53:52
And it was a constant reminder, "Hey,
53:55
would you guys mind giving
53:56
away a gift certificate?"
53:59
So I want to thank Steve, 4.3LXJ, for
54:03
stepping up there at the end of the month
54:04
and giving away the rest
54:06
of the gift certificates.
54:07
I don't, I love giving stuff away. If I
54:11
had millions of dollars, I'd be giving
54:13
stuff away all the time.
54:14
It's fun. It's fun to give people things.
54:17
And I don't know. Maybe they'll chime in.
54:21
Maybe the moderators will chime in
54:23
through the 24-hour
54:27
comment line or on the forum.
54:31
Maybe they just felt uncomfortable giving
54:32
away something, a gift certificate, that
54:36
they personally didn't
54:37
go and get for somebody.
54:39
Maybe they didn't like giving a gift that
54:41
they didn't pick out. I don't know.
54:43
But to me, I thought it was really cool.
54:45
And I was like, "Man, you know, come on.
54:47
I'm going to start giving these away if
54:48
you guys don't give them away."
54:49
It's just, you know, it's just eating me
54:51
up. I'm bad that way, though. I can't buy
54:53
anything from my wife or kids without
54:56
telling them what it
54:57
is before it comes in.
54:58
And then when it does get here, it's
55:00
like, "I know it's six months before
55:02
Christmas, but open it! Open it!"
55:05
And then I'll remind you that this is
55:06
your Christmas present on Christmas Day.
55:08
So, yeah, I guess it's just me. I'm just
55:11
a big kid. Obviously, that's true from
55:14
the three Jeeps that we own.
55:17
But it's nice. It's nice that we got...
55:20
Actually, just on the way, we have three
55:23
four-wheel drive vehicles now with the
55:25
98, the 99, and the 2003 Wrangler.
55:31
I've got two 231
55:33
transfer cases and one 242.
55:36
And I really would like to have a 242 in
55:40
that 99. I think that would be a lot more
55:44
reasonable than the 231 would be.
55:47
But anyway, maybe I'll get some feedback
55:49
from you guys on that thought.
55:52
Maybe the... There's a lot of 231s out
55:54
there, and people seem to be getting from
55:56
point A to point B just fine.
55:58
I just wish that the... I like the 242
56:03
when it's wet out. It really gives you
56:05
some nice traction on the road.
56:07
And there are some roads out there that
56:10
really, really need some better traction.
56:13
I will admit, though, the KM2s that I now
56:16
have on the 98 are a lot better. I have a
56:19
lot better traction in the rain.
56:22
The 50 plus thousand miles that I had on
56:24
the KM1s may have a lot to do with that.
56:27
Anyway, I did mention that we have a call
56:30
in line, that you can call in comments,
56:32
questions, general feedback for the show.
56:35
Let me let you know about that.
56:39
Do you have questions or comments that
56:40
you would like played on the air?
56:41
We've set up voicemail
56:43
just for that purpose.
56:44
All you have to do is call 530-675-4102.
56:51
Just leave your name, your location, and
56:54
your question or comment.
56:55
Chances are good it'll
56:56
get played on the air.
56:58
That number again is 530-675-4102.
57:04
We look forward to
57:05
hearing from you today.
57:07
You know, I mentioned we're on Facebook,
57:09
and it's just really simple.
57:11
Facebook.com slash XJ Talk.
57:14
We have a little group
57:17
set up for XJ Talk members.
57:18
If you're an XJTalk.com forum member and
57:23
you follow us on Facebook, if you
57:26
friended us on Facebook,
57:28
put in a request to join that group.
57:30
There's not necessarily a lot of stuff
57:32
that goes on there, but it's a group.
57:34
You know, might as well
57:35
be a part of it, right?
57:36
But we'll add you to that
57:38
group if you send us a request.
57:40
It's not a hard, fast rule that you have
57:44
to be a member on the forum.
57:47
We'll add you in there anyway, but it'll
57:49
probably, being a member on the forum and
57:52
a member of that group,
57:54
the stuff that we type in there for the
57:55
group stuff may make a little more sense
57:59
than maybe it would if
58:00
you weren't a forum member.
58:02
Also too, we take posts that come up on
58:07
the forum, and we put them on Facebook.
58:09
So it's an automatic thing. It shoots out
58:13
three of the three most
58:14
recent posts every 30 minutes.
58:17
So if you can't visit XJTalk.com during
58:22
the day because of the work or the type
58:25
work that you do or internet restrictions
58:28
at where you work, you can certainly have
58:31
an app on your phone and
58:34
look at what the posts are,
58:36
what the last three posts are, the last
58:38
30 minutes, via your Facebook app.
58:41
And if you want a more direct way of
58:44
following the posts on XJTalk.com,
58:49
you can use a product, an application
58:51
that's available for iPhone
58:53
and Android called Tap-A-Talk.
58:55
And I don't know if I'm pronouncing that
58:57
right, but it's Tap-A-Talk, one word.
59:01
And that app allows you to access
59:05
XJTalk.com interactively.
59:07
So you can go in and
59:09
browse the site, read posts.
59:12
I believe they only have the paid version
59:15
now, so I think you'll have to pay the
59:17
two bucks or whatever
59:18
it is to buy the app,
59:20
which we don't get any kind of kit back
59:22
on that. It's just
59:22
money that goes to them.
59:24
But anyway, you buy the app and then you
59:28
have the ability to read and write posts.
59:30
There's people that access the site
59:33
exclusively through their phone.
59:37
And nothing wrong with that. I've got to
59:40
have a bigger screen.
59:42
It's a little screen. I like my
59:43
smartphone, but a little
59:44
screen. Browsing forums. No.
59:48
I'm probably just spoiled.
59:50
Anyway, so you can access the site. We've
59:54
brought up our new, I'm sorry, not new.
59:57
It's relatively new because we just
59:59
brought it up, but we've brought the
1:00:02
WranglerTalk.com site back up.
1:00:05
So if you have a Wrangler, if you've got
1:00:07
a friend with a Wrangler, please get them
1:00:11
on WranglerTalk.com and post up.
1:00:13
So one of the reasons why that went away,
1:00:17
we just didn't have the funds available
1:00:18
to renew the one-year
1:00:21
lease on the software,
1:00:22
the V-Bulletin software that we use. This
1:00:25
didn't make sense because we didn't have
1:00:27
enough activity on the site.
1:00:29
It was money better spent on XJTalk.com.
1:00:34
Well, here recently we went and purchased
1:00:38
the license. It's not a
1:00:40
one-year renewal thing anymore.
1:00:42
We actually have the license in
1:00:44
perpetuity, so there's no
1:00:45
reason for the site to go down.
1:00:48
In other words, unless something
1:00:50
catastrophic was to happen,
1:00:51
the site will be up from now on.
1:00:53
So it's not going away. So it's
1:00:57
WranglerTalk.com. It's
1:00:59
about TJs, XJs, and JKs.
1:01:02
I'm sorry, I said XJ. I meant
1:01:04
to say YJ. TJs, YJs, and JKs.
1:01:08
And, you know, it's run just like
1:01:12
XJTalk.com. So if you like XJTalk.com and
1:01:16
you got a buddy with a Wrangler,
1:01:18
tell them about WranglerTalk.com. It's
1:01:21
not busy. There's
1:01:23
hardly any post going on.
1:01:25
We need people to come over there, post
1:01:28
stuff up, talk about their Jeeps, and of
1:01:31
course I'm posting about
1:01:32
what I'm doing to our 2003 TJ.
1:01:37
That's one of the reasons why I cranked
1:01:39
that site back up, is because I felt like
1:01:42
since I had a TJ now,
1:01:45
I would be able to post questions up,
1:01:48
interact with people, and I'm thinking
1:01:52
that's what a lot of the
1:01:53
success for XJTalk was,
1:01:55
is that I had an XJ and I was able to
1:01:57
interact with people and had an interest,
1:02:00
specific interest and specific questions
1:02:04
about the XJ. So we'll see. And I do need
1:02:10
to get on some Wrangler sites so that I
1:02:13
can get some of those questions answered
1:02:15
because it is so, so quiet on
1:02:20
WranglerTalk.com. I've got several
1:02:22
questions posted up there about the
1:02:24
various things that I
1:02:24
want to do to the TJ
1:02:27
and no responses. So, disappointing, but
1:02:31
you know, we're sticking with it. Also
1:02:33
too, we have, again, my fault.
1:02:37
I do not have the prices on the XJTalk
1:02:38
store yet, but we do have XJTalk coffee
1:02:43
cups. We have XJTalk license plates.
1:02:47
And I know some of you out there live in
1:02:50
states that do not require a front
1:02:53
license plate. So if you would like to
1:02:57
get one of these very
1:02:59
nice XJTalk license plates,
1:03:02
I guess it's a license plate if it's not
1:03:03
an actual license plate. It's a little
1:03:06
sign, a printed sign that goes in the
1:03:09
place where the license plate is.
1:03:10
Anyway, it is on the store. There's just
1:03:13
no way of buying it yet because I need to
1:03:15
find out what the
1:03:16
shipping is going to cost.
1:03:17
Also need to figure out what we're going
1:03:19
to put it in to ship it. The license
1:03:20
plate is probably not so bad.
1:03:22
The coffee cups, there's nothing worse
1:03:25
after spending, you know, 15, 20 bucks
1:03:27
for a stinking coffee cup that
1:03:29
you get it and it's in pieces.
1:03:32
So I want to make sure that, you know, we
1:03:35
can get a decent box, a decent size and
1:03:39
get it to you in one piece.
1:03:40
But the coffee cups, very, very nice
1:03:42
coffee cups, very impressed with the
1:03:44
quality on the coffee
1:03:45
cups. They're expensive.
1:03:47
I don't think they cost any more than any
1:03:49
other place that you might get them
1:03:50
online, but it just seems, I don't know,
1:03:53
I guess I'm just cheap.
1:03:55
So anyway guys, that's kind of it for
1:03:59
tonight. I hope that you enjoyed the
1:04:02
show. Again, I think it's wonderful that
1:04:07
we got our first giveaway winner.
1:04:10
Congratulations and we'll be getting
1:04:14
those KC lights, the detours, the
1:04:19
A-pillar mounts and the KC light covers
1:04:22
out to you very, very soon.
1:04:24
Thank you so much for all the posts that
1:04:28
you all made in the October giveaway.
1:04:32
It's wonderful that everybody that
1:04:36
participated did so if you received a 25
1:04:40
or $50 gift certificate
1:04:41
during the month of October.
1:04:43
Thank you for being a member on the site.
1:04:46
We really appreciate it.
1:04:47
We'd love to be able to give more to all
1:04:50
you guys, if nothing else, for all the
1:04:53
entertainment that we get from your posts
1:04:57
and your comments and
1:04:58
chat and so on and so forth.
1:05:00
Really, really thank you. I mean it. So
1:05:03
if you got a certificate and
1:05:04
you feel bad about it, don't.
1:05:10
It would be my wish that we didn't have
1:05:12
to pump anybody for money on anything. If
1:05:16
all we had to do was bitch and moan about
1:05:18
getting you to post,
1:05:19
that would be wonderful.
1:05:22
So, you know, don't worry about it. Enjoy
1:05:25
the certificate. If you, when you get
1:05:29
something from jeepingoutofedders.com, if
1:05:33
you would share with us what it was that
1:05:35
you got, it would be great.
1:05:39
You know what? I don't think I've
1:05:41
announced the winner yet. No, I haven't.
1:05:45
Okay, well, let's go see.
1:05:49
How many people did I upset just then?
1:05:56
I'm thinking the same people that I upset
1:05:58
whenever I did announce the winner
1:06:00
earlier at the 30 minute mark.
1:06:04
Okay, so, yeah, I know, I know. It is
1:06:10
exactly as you say. Hang on. Okay, just
1:06:14
ran the numbers again. That's why I said
1:06:15
hang on. Pause the recording.
1:06:19
So, looking at the stats, the posting
1:06:22
stats on xjtalk.com running from October
1:06:27
1, 2011, midnight central time through
1:06:33
October 31, 23 hours 59 minutes 59.99
1:06:40
seconds, the top 10, and
1:06:44
I'll post this up on the forum
1:06:47
later today, today being Thursday,
1:06:50
November the 3rd. The top 10, let's see,
1:06:55
that's 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, I think I
1:06:59
counted right. Well, I'm
1:07:00
going to start with Scott.
1:07:03
That's not top 10. That's like top 12.
1:07:06
Scott xj4iv, 150 posts during the month.
1:07:12
BigGem350, 169 posts. You
1:07:17
guys remember BigGem, don't you?
1:07:19
I just wanted to say xjtalk is the best
1:07:22
f***ing sight in the f***ing world. And
1:07:25
if you think you know a better f***ing
1:07:27
sight, f*** you. By the
1:07:28
way, this is BigGem350.
1:07:31
Yeah, BigGem350, 169 posts. Lizardrunner,
1:07:40
great xjtalk member. He's on every day.
1:07:45
If you guys don't get into the chat,
1:07:47
little chat window, some of you may not
1:07:49
care for it, that's fine. But the chat
1:07:52
window, Lizardrunner is usually in there
1:07:54
every morning as am I
1:07:58
and a few other members.
1:08:00
Get into your chat with us. If you're
1:08:01
just a regular member, basically you have
1:08:04
a blue user name, you do need to make one
1:08:09
post before you can type in chat. You'll
1:08:12
be able to read chat, but actually to be
1:08:13
able to type in chat, you'd have to at
1:08:15
least make one post. That's one post per
1:08:18
24 hours. And we do that because we don't
1:08:20
want people using chat instead of
1:08:22
posting. I know, we're diabolical.
1:08:25
Anyway, then we've got PRCG Patrick, the
1:08:29
one I made the comment about getting hit
1:08:31
in the head by a stolen, I didn't mention
1:08:34
stolen before, a stolen golf flag. I
1:08:38
guess that was Karma smacking him in the
1:08:41
head. Not only did Patrick PRCG, not only
1:08:45
did Patrick do 183 posts during the month
1:08:49
of October, he also won two of our
1:08:53
Jeepin' out of the car.
1:08:54
He won a $50 gift certificate for that
1:09:01
colorful story where he was on the golf
1:09:05
course, stole the flags, what do you call
1:09:10
them? The flags they put in the holes,
1:09:12
you know, the various holes. And
1:09:14
apparently he drove around a lot because
1:09:15
he had several of these things. Had them
1:09:17
in the back of his Jeep, was leaving the
1:09:20
golf course down the witty trail that he
1:09:23
came in on and he was
1:09:24
on the back of the Jeep, out of the side
1:09:29
window or something, caught on a branch
1:09:31
and the back end got some pressure and it
1:09:34
came off and smacked him in the back of
1:09:36
the head. I think he had staples put in.
1:09:40
I don't think they were necessary. I
1:09:41
think he just wanted them. But anyway, he
1:09:43
got a $50 gift certificate for that story
1:09:45
and a $25 gift certificate, I don't know,
1:09:49
because somebody liked him. Now, I think
1:09:51
one of the modders had like a mini
1:09:53
giveaway thing going on.
1:09:54
Carnage or something. So Patrick did
1:09:59
pretty good in October. He got $75 total
1:10:03
gift certificates, which is fine. I mean,
1:10:07
everybody, I would have preferred to
1:10:09
spread them around more, but one person
1:10:11
could have won them all. Anyway, so then
1:10:14
we've got Showtime, $34.92, great XJ Talk
1:10:18
member. Very interesting posts, a lot of
1:10:21
interesting things. Good information, good information, good information.
1:10:22
Everyone should aspire to be able to have
1:10:31
as much good information as Showtime,
1:10:32
$34.92. 195 posts for the month of
1:10:37
October. Prerunner 1982, which I thought
1:10:40
was going to be our winner. But I think
1:10:43
some commitments in his life got in the
1:10:48
way and I'm pretty sure he was aware of
1:10:51
that was going to be an issue whenever he was going to be in the
1:10:53
He knew that some of the things that were
1:10:55
lined up for October were going to make
1:10:58
it difficult for him to be able to be on
1:11:00
the site as much. But he was certainly a
1:11:03
front runner for those first two weeks.
1:11:06
Prerunner 1982, also great member, long
1:11:08
term member. We all hate him because he
1:11:11
gets more than 20 miles per gallon on his
1:11:14
Jeep Cherokee. 204 posts.
1:11:17
And then also another great member with a
1:11:20
lot of great, interesting posts. Very
1:11:22
helpful to all the members. And a
1:11:25
moderator, Steve 4.3 LXJ with 266 posts.
1:11:32
And don't let this guy fool you. He's a
1:11:35
great guy. He's a foreigner, but he's
1:11:38
still a great guy. And he's gone through
1:11:40
a lot being in Christ Church with the
1:11:44
Quakes and not knowing who he is.
1:11:46
And how to steer away from a large body
1:11:49
of water. Wayne, can tab 27 in Christ
1:11:53
Church New Zealand, had 304 posts. And
1:11:58
also too, another good member, great
1:12:02
member of XJTalk.com and a member of the
1:12:07
armed forces is Blue Dragon 436. He's
1:12:13
very well aware that he
1:12:14
doesn't get any posts.
1:12:16
And he posts count editions from
1:12:21
welcoming new people to the site. But yet
1:12:27
he does it all the time. He's very
1:12:29
friendly, very helpful, very active on
1:12:33
XJTalk. Really appreciate his activity
1:12:37
and his posts. Blue Dragon 436. He had
1:12:42
339 posts for the month of October.
1:12:45
And this guy, what can I say about this
1:12:46
guy? He's a great guy. Oh, I'm sorry,
1:12:49
that's me. Yeah, I'm the number two
1:12:52
person on the post for the month. And as
1:12:56
I said earlier, it was around 550 posts.
1:12:59
The exact number is 556 posts. So I was
1:13:04
able to do 556 posts
1:13:06
without really trying.
1:13:09
Believe it or not, I'm really not that
1:13:11
chatty. I don't like talking on the
1:13:12
phone. Email and typing in chat is not
1:13:16
too bad. But talking and that might be
1:13:20
one of the reasons why I've been having
1:13:21
doing having trouble getting sitting here
1:13:23
and doing the podcast.
1:13:25
Not a big talker. It changes. It varies
1:13:28
with the company and so
1:13:30
on and so forth, obviously.
1:13:33
So, here we are. The number one poster
1:13:38
child. No, the number one poster for the
1:13:40
month of October. And winner. He already
1:13:45
knows who he is. Even though we stopped
1:13:48
posting up the total number of posts for
1:13:52
the month. He knows who he is. He's been
1:13:56
chewing on his fingernails.
1:14:01
And I'm sure his kids wanting to know,
1:14:05
wanting to be announced, the winner. The
1:14:08
winner of the 2011 October giveaway is...
1:14:13
How did he tell me this is... I forget
1:14:17
exactly how you pronounce this thing.
1:14:21
The great time. That's what it is.
1:14:23
D-A-G-R. The number eight, you kids, in
1:14:27
your numbers for letters. Time. T-I-M.
1:14:31
It's missing an E. Maybe it's the great
1:14:33
Tim. That must be the
1:14:34
great Tim. There we go.
1:14:36
With 651 posts, certainly, just blew away
1:14:42
the competition. I don't know... I have
1:14:45
556 posts and I wasn't trying. But yet,
1:14:50
I'm going to say this. I don't know how
1:14:53
somebody could come up with 651 posts in
1:14:58
one month and have
1:15:01
interesting things to say.
1:15:03
He had responses that were relevant. He
1:15:06
had responses that were helpful. You
1:15:10
could tell he was digging around and
1:15:12
looking at old posts. But the comments
1:15:15
were thoughtful, were relevant, thought
1:15:18
provoking, etc. They were good posts.
1:15:21
And that's what we were looking for. That
1:15:23
was the whole reason for us doing the
1:15:25
giveaway. We wanted to have more posts
1:15:28
for people to read and the posts
1:15:30
hopefully interesting, colorful, funny,
1:15:35
whatever. And he certainly did that.
1:15:37
I really, really want to thank you for
1:15:40
taking the time to do all those posts. I
1:15:44
know that you were out because of the
1:15:48
birth of your twins. And some may say,
1:15:52
"Well gee, you were off." But then again,
1:15:54
you were off and taking care of those
1:15:56
kids and doing these posts.
1:15:57
So, juggling that, I'm sure the twins
1:16:00
were not in any danger during the times
1:16:03
that you were posting. I know you were a
1:16:06
good dad. But you really can't take
1:16:11
anything away from this guy.
1:16:12
I mean, yeah, he was off, but he had
1:16:16
those kids to take care of. And he still
1:16:18
managed to do this. And let this be a
1:16:20
lesson to you kids at home.
1:16:22
It's not that difficult to post. Take the
1:16:26
time to post. We'll have
1:16:28
to hear from the great Tim.
1:16:31
But I don't think that he felt
1:16:33
uncomfortable. I don't think that he had
1:16:36
any problems with his posts as far as the
1:16:37
comments that people made. I think that
1:16:40
he was engaged by other members. And it
1:16:44
was fun for all of us.
1:16:45
We had more to read, more to react to.
1:16:49
It's fun. I mean, that's what the forum
1:16:51
is meant to be helpful. But it's also too
1:16:54
entertaining. I mean, come on, if it
1:16:55
wasn't fun, why would we be there? And
1:16:58
why would some of us be there daily?
1:17:00
Which, by the way, I've said it before,
1:17:02
and I'll say it again. Xjtalk.com is the
1:17:05
only XJ or Jeep site that I visit daily.
1:17:10
It's been that way for over a
1:17:12
year, maybe a year and a half.
1:17:15
I'm not telling you you shouldn't. I'm
1:17:17
just saying that that's the only one that
1:17:20
I go to every day. I have that much fun.
1:17:23
I have all my questions answered there
1:17:26
from the other members.
1:17:27
It's great. Thank you, guys.
1:17:30
On top of being proud of what we've built
1:17:34
here, I'm personally satisfied daily with
1:17:41
all the fun and entertainment information
1:17:43
I get from the site. Thank you, guys. I
1:17:44
really appreciate it.
1:17:46
So anyway, don't forget, we have a
1:17:50
giveaway going on now in November. The
1:17:55
detours knucklebone two inch receiver
1:17:59
mounted tire carrier. Just visit the site
1:18:04
if you would like to be a member.
1:18:06
You don't you do have to be a member
1:18:10
before you can have a referral, but you
1:18:13
can still join in this month and you
1:18:17
know, get this thing. All you have to do
1:18:19
is get a bunch of people to join and get
1:18:21
them to post. Make sure they get your
1:18:23
name right on the referral.
1:18:26
And we'll be posting up how that's going,
1:18:29
going along probably for a couple of
1:18:30
weeks like we did for the post counts.
1:18:33
Let you know what your competition looks
1:18:35
like. Let you know where you are.
1:18:38
I have to look into it. I know there's a
1:18:41
way that you can see what referrals you
1:18:43
have and what successful referrals you
1:18:46
have. Also, too, we have the invitation
1:18:48
system that's available on the site with
1:18:51
our November
1:18:52
Thanksgiving theme currently.
1:18:54
I believe all you have to do is go to the
1:18:56
nav bar, click on quick links, and then
1:19:00
you will see a link that says invite your
1:19:03
friends. All you need to do is put in
1:19:06
their email address and that will send
1:19:08
them an email and have a link in there
1:19:09
and I think it will automatically get
1:19:11
that referral to you the way so you can
1:19:15
get full credit for it.
1:19:16
Do you have a question or comment that
1:19:19
you'd like to hear on the show? Just call
1:19:22
530-675-4102 any time of the day or night
1:19:26
and leave it on our voicemail.
1:19:34
So guys, that's a show, a podcast,
1:19:40
another one in the can, and thank you
1:19:43
very much for everybody that participated
1:19:46
in the October giveaway.
1:19:49
The great Tim will be getting your
1:19:53
winnings out here very, very soon. It's
1:19:55
already in a box, ready to go. We would
1:19:59
appreciate some pictures and
1:20:01
seeing it on your jeep, etc.
1:20:04
So guys, until next time, this is Tony
1:20:07
Mutteroy on XJTalk.com wishing you a good
1:20:10
day, evening, or whatever the
1:20:12
hell you're listening to this.
1:20:13
(Music)
1:20:26
This is Big Jim 350 and
1:20:29
I f***ing love XJTalk.com