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Own Your Story | The Enneagram goes to the Movies · The Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast

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SPEAKER_00: I am eight years old and uh my birthday is July 11, 7-11, 2011.
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SPEAKER_00: And I my name is Uriah and I have lots of go going through lots of things.
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SPEAKER_04: You're going through lots of things?
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: Well, you know, one of the things that you're gonna be going through is Christmas time, right?
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SPEAKER_04: Christmas time is coming up.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, anyways, I'm gonna ask my dad to give me like an iPad or phone for Christmas.
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SPEAKER_00: My dad would have to work for it like a like um a few days to um until Christmas to give me the phone.
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SPEAKER_00: Do you know what we're celebrating when we celebrate Christmas?
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SPEAKER_00: The birth of Jesus.
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SPEAKER_00: What do you think Jesus would want for his birthday?
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SPEAKER_00: Jesus would like giving friends um toys and helping others.
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SPEAKER_00: My name is June and I'm seven.
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SPEAKER_02: And I'm in first grade and I have three siblings.
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SPEAKER_04: What's your favorite part about Christmas?
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SPEAKER_02: Um, getting presents.
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SPEAKER_04: Do you know whose birthday we're celebrating at Christmas?
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SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
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SPEAKER_02: Jesus.
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SPEAKER_04: That's right.
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SPEAKER_04: So if you could give Jesus a gift for his birthday, what would you give him?
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, my love.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh my presents.
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SPEAKER_04: Aren't those sweet voices the best?
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SPEAKER_04: I am loving how they're reminding me the real reason for this season.
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SPEAKER_04: Now, today's guest, you have gotten to hear from her before, and she's one of our favorites.
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SPEAKER_04: I'm thrilled to have Annalise Higgins join us again for another Enneagram Ghost to the Movies episode.
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SPEAKER_04: Do you guys enjoy these?
2:02
SPEAKER_04: We had so much fun and positive feedback from the Enneagram Visits Downton back in September.
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SPEAKER_04: We thought we'd have some fun with one of our most favorite stories of all time, Little Women.
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SPEAKER_04: If you don't know that there's a new rendition of Little Women releasing on Christmas Day, then I'm happy to be the one to tell you this.
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SPEAKER_04: We are super excited to get to enjoy this together.
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SPEAKER_04: For some reason, Little Women is one of those stories that I can read and watch multiple times a year, without losing the magic in the words pinned long ago by Louisa Mae Alcott.
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SPEAKER_04: Maybe it's because I relate so much to Joe March, or because of my own special relationship with my sisters.
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SPEAKER_04: Or perhaps I love stories that depict real life, and it's something that allows me the space for a good cry.
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SPEAKER_04: Well, whatever the reason is, it would seem that I am not the only one considering that there have been many renditions of this classic tale, especially in the last several years.
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SPEAKER_04: Annalise and I talk about many of these during our conversation, and I went ahead and linked them up in my show notes if you'd like to check them out for yourselves.
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SPEAKER_04: Now, obviously, today is an Enneagram conversation, so if you happen to be new to the Enneagram and you want to know the best place to begin, head on over to easyineagram.com where you can find my free Easy Enneagram typing guide video.
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SPEAKER_04: Instead of an online quiz, which often leads to mistyping and lots of confusion, you can have a short typing conversation, it's about 10 minutes, and it'll help you narrow down to your dominant type.
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SPEAKER_04: You can also share this with your friends and family, especially as you gather this holiday season.
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SPEAKER_04: And if you missed it last year, I re-released my simply wholehearted Enneagram gift giving guide just in time to help you shop for your loved ones.
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SPEAKER_04: And last week's episode was all about this, so if you need some more help, just turn into episode 131.
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SPEAKER_04: Also, you can get both my Easy Enneagram 101 and 201 courses that are now available.
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SPEAKER_04: These Lifetime Access Online Workshops make a perfect gift for your loved ones who are new to the Enneagram or for those who are still determining their dominant Enneagram type.
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SPEAKER_04: Also, the fun music you're hearing in the background is from our favorite music artist, Christy Knockles.
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SPEAKER_04: Download the Thrill of Hope and the Thrill of Hope Renewed and keep it on repeat in the background this holiday season.
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SPEAKER_04: Now, here's my conversation with Annalise Higgins.
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SPEAKER_04: Annalise, you know my most favoritist movie of all time, forever.
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SPEAKER_04: This is the story, right?
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SPEAKER_04: The story we love to read again and watch again and retell and share with generation after generation and all our friends.
4:42
SPEAKER_05: Uh-huh.
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SPEAKER_05: And it's the go-to if you need a good, just cry, heart-wrenching cry.
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SPEAKER_05: I will totally turn on the 1994 movie.
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SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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SPEAKER_05: And fast forward it to the scene of that's dying scene, just so that way I could have a good therapeutic cry.
4:58
SPEAKER_05: Like sometimes I'm feeling so many feels, and I'm like, I just need a good cry.
5:02
SPEAKER_05: So I just turn it on.
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SPEAKER_05: And sometimes just on the menu and the music, I immediately just I couldn't ask the trigger.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, the music.
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SPEAKER_04: The music has been playing since October in my house because it's just wistful and it's beautiful.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and to be clear, we're talking specifically about the 1994.
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SPEAKER_04: It was in 1994, I thought it was 1996.
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SPEAKER_04: Maybe it was just 1990s.
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SPEAKER_05: I just I remember that was like one of the first movies you, mom, and April and I went to.
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SPEAKER_05: And I remember feeling so excited because I felt very grown-up that I was included in the sister mom outing into the movies.
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SPEAKER_05: And it wasn't an animated film, it was a live film.
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SPEAKER_04: Like a grown-up film.
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SPEAKER_04: I was a grown-up film.
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SPEAKER_04: Uh yes.
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SPEAKER_04: And so since then, there has been some incredible remakes or renditions, not really remakes, because the 1996 version or the 1990s version was certainly had been done before.
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SPEAKER_04: Um, I mean, we could go way back to black and white, and I'm yeah, I'm trying to remember like Catherine Hepburn, right?
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SPEAKER_04: Wasn't she?
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SPEAKER_04: Yes.
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SPEAKER_04: Yes, she played so yes.
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SPEAKER_04: Uh-huh.
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SPEAKER_04: I mean, and how far back was that?
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SPEAKER_04: So there's been several different uh remakes of it.
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SPEAKER_04: Recently, you told me about a version that was on Amazon Prime and it came out 2018, I think you said maybe 2017.
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SPEAKER_04: Uh let me think.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it was it would have been spring of 2018.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: So it was with PBS.
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SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay.
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SPEAKER_04: So there's the PBS version, but there was also a movie vision, a movie version that was done.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: And it was done in modern day.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: And so that was available to rent.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, on it.
6:42
SPEAKER_04: So I actually bought it.
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SPEAKER_04: I liked it so much.
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SPEAKER_05: Oh, it was so good.
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SPEAKER_05: It was.
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SPEAKER_05: I I probably should just go ahead and buy it too because I wasn't sure when I first I was like, this could be just a two-year-old.
6:53
SPEAKER_05: I wasn't sure either.
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SPEAKER_04: I was really afraid to watch it because you you put a classic story like that in modern day, and I'm not sure you could do it, but I thought they did an amazing job.
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SPEAKER_04: In fact, it made my girls like the story even more.
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SPEAKER_04: And and they had seen the 90s version, but then they wanted to see it again and they wanted to read the book.
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SPEAKER_04: They just connected in a different way.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: I love that.
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SPEAKER_04: Yay! Admittedly, I when I watched it the first time, I laid in my bed by myself and cried the whole way through from the phone.
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SPEAKER_04: From like using the scene through the whole photo.
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SPEAKER_05: Box of tissues and seltzer water by your side or a cup of tea.
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SPEAKER_05: Yes, maybe some chocolate too for good major.
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SPEAKER_05: That too.
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SPEAKER_05: So good.
7:39
SPEAKER_05: Well, have you listened?
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SPEAKER_05: Have your girls listened to the radio theater, Focus on the Family Radio Theater.
7:45
SPEAKER_04: Yes, it's been years.
7:47
SPEAKER_04: But yeah, that one's a good one.
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SPEAKER_04: And we do love audiobooks and audio theater.
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SPEAKER_04: And it's it's just a great way to continue rehashing these classic stories without always having it to be visual, which is really important.
7:59
SPEAKER_04: But this Christmas, oh my gosh.
8:04
SPEAKER_05: And we just I just sent you the trailer because my friend just sent it to me.
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SPEAKER_05: She's like, Awning.
8:09
SPEAKER_05: Have you seen those?
8:10
SPEAKER_05: You need to.
8:10
SPEAKER_06: Have you seen this?
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SPEAKER_05: I was like, well, I saw that it was coming out because a couple months ago, it was back in June, I was on this little women kick again where I was re-watching all the versions and I found that modern day one.
8:21
SPEAKER_05: And then I was just looking up some different things, and it popped up that there was a movie coming out Christmas.
8:26
SPEAKER_05: And I was like, What?
8:27
SPEAKER_05: No, that must be a typo, and then Sjorn of And it has Emma Watson, who plays um Hermione, and then the oh Judy Dench, I think.
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SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
8:38
SPEAKER_05: Oh no, sorry, not Judy Dench.
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SPEAKER_04: It's Meryl Streep who's playing Aunt March.
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SPEAKER_04: Aunt March.
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SPEAKER_04: But who's the mom again?
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SPEAKER_04: I she's the gal who plays, she's in Jurassic Park.
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SPEAKER_04: Yes, yes.
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SPEAKER_04: And I can remember her name.
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SPEAKER_04: I know she's real name.
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SPEAKER_04: She's so lovely.
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SPEAKER_04: But she's Marmy.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, perfect Marmy.
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SPEAKER_04: I thought it was a really great character cast, yeah.
8:57
SPEAKER_04: For all of them.
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SPEAKER_04: No, I I literally, when I started watching that preview, I started getting weepy again.
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SPEAKER_04: And all the music sounds good.
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SPEAKER_04: The music sounds great.
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SPEAKER_04: And the way they cast the characters and how they wrote their lines.
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SPEAKER_04: I mean, already I could tell.
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SPEAKER_04: I was like, oh, this is gonna be so good.
9:14
SPEAKER_05: Uh-huh.
9:15
SPEAKER_05: Oh, it's gonna be brilliant.
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SPEAKER_05: Well, and I remember sitting on the couch watching, it was the PBS one again.
9:21
SPEAKER_05: Uh-huh.
9:21
SPEAKER_05: I'm admitting I've seen it now a couple of times.
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SPEAKER_05: Several times the colors, the costume, and the music again.
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SPEAKER_05: They just did a such a lovely job.
9:27
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
9:28
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: Each version just brings out just the beauty of a story in the relationships.
9:32
SPEAKER_05: But I remember sitting there and I was kind of thinking, because it was in the midst in the start of your Enneagram summer.
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SPEAKER_05: Okay.
9:38
SPEAKER_05: And I was like, oh, I wonder, I wonder what personality or what number Joe would be.
9:45
SPEAKER_05: And so I remember texting you.
9:46
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
9:46
SPEAKER_05: So pretty sure Joe is the Yep.
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SPEAKER_05: Yep.
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SPEAKER_04: And I was like, oh my gosh, I was just thinking the same thing because I think you and I had somehow at the same time converged on this need to watch all the little women.
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SPEAKER_05: Yes.
10:01
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
10:01
SPEAKER_05: Because I had texted you all the modern day ones.
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SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
10:04
SPEAKER_05: And I was like, y'all need to see this.
10:06
SPEAKER_04: It's great.
10:08
SPEAKER_04: So yeah.
10:08
SPEAKER_04: So we went back and forth through text of who we thought was who, and we thought, well, gosh darn it, this needs to be a conversation.
10:16
SPEAKER_04: It does.
10:17
SPEAKER_05: It does.
10:17
SPEAKER_05: So I love that you were like, let's have this conversation.
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SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
10:21
SPEAKER_04: I'm pretty sure other people want to have it along with us.
10:23
SPEAKER_04: And we wouldn't want to limit their, you know, enjoyment of getting to sit with us.
10:30
SPEAKER_04: And either they're taking a walk with us or they're having some coffee with us or they're doing the dishes with us.
10:35
SPEAKER_04: So we're just here to make it a little bit better, especially in light of the holiday season.
10:41
SPEAKER_04: Right.
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SPEAKER_04: I mean, it's a classic tale.
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SPEAKER_04: I think I think there's something about little women that makes me want to be the very best expression of myself.
10:53
SPEAKER_04: And I have thought it to be my desire to write since I've been very young.
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SPEAKER_04: And so I identify deeply with Jose's character and some of her lines, epic lines, I'm like, yes, that is my heart.
11:06
SPEAKER_04: But I think in general, their story evokes something in us that goes, Yes, let's let us be great, let us be remarkable in whatever it is that we want to be.
11:18
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
11:18
SPEAKER_05: Well, and I love that the beginning of the story, Marmy gives the girls a gift of the pilgrim's progress.
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SPEAKER_05: And then how the girls start recognizing all throughout, even as they mature and grow years later, recognizing how they need to grow and change it, and they align it in parallel their lives with the pilgrim's progress on how that refining that has to happen.
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SPEAKER_05: Now, I think there is a the difference of that self-made with your own strength versus the power of Jesus.
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SPEAKER_05: That I'm like, sometimes I'm like, oh, you just need Jesus.
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SPEAKER_05: Like that would help.
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SPEAKER_05: We just call it out.
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SPEAKER_05: Jesus and Holy Spirit, the Trinity could yes, you could you could do great things.
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SPEAKER_05: You could avoid all these struggles.
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SPEAKER_04: Yes.
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SPEAKER_04: And that's why I think it's worthwhile even seeing not only how the characters develop and grow and mature and relate it to the Enneagram, because that's the whole point, right?
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SPEAKER_04: The Enneagram type that could just be a mask.
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SPEAKER_04: But the the goal is to remove it and live from your true self and live your best life as the Lord intends for us to do.
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SPEAKER_04: And so as we type these people, uh you know, it's not a desire to stereotype or to quantify or say if you're this type, this is how you have to look.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, or to make a caricature of it.
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SPEAKER_04: Right.
12:37
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
12:37
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: But we, I mean, we really did put some time into thinking about their motivations and we'll we'll we'll kind of give tidbits of information why we think people are this way and stuff like that.
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SPEAKER_04: And just remember, if you see yourself in this character, it's not to shame, it's to be able to laugh at yourself a little bit and then go, okay, how do I want to adapt to the high side of what this you know character in this living or what this type can act ultimately live?
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SPEAKER_05: Well, and I think that's the beauty of story, is is why I love fiction as well, because you can identify with some characters in a way that maybe in real life you haven't been able to see a true reflection of yourself.
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SPEAKER_05: It just is a slight glimpse of, oh, like it can bring you up, or it can uh in a shocking point of oh wait, I do that.
13:27
SPEAKER_05: Oh no.
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SPEAKER_05: Or it can be, oh, I do that, I'm not alone.
13:32
SPEAKER_05: And there's a safety net of being able to relate in the beauty of a narrative that someone has written and creative, sometimes based on real people, sometimes truly, purely fiction.
13:42
SPEAKER_05: But I think there's a beauty in that, and I think there's can be power in connecting some of these Enneagram types.
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SPEAKER_05: Maybe it'll help people discover just a little bit of like, oh you know, I was wrestling between the two, but I can totally see how I really maybe relate to that.
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SPEAKER_05: And like you said, maybe that sometimes that causes you to struggle.
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SPEAKER_03: Like, no, oh wait a minute, shoot.
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SPEAKER_03: Yes, yeah, I love it.
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SPEAKER_03: It's beautiful.
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SPEAKER_04: Okay, so when we did our Downton Abbey conversation back in September, we went through all the Enneagram types.
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SPEAKER_04: I highlighted, we started from eight and went back to seven.
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SPEAKER_04: We talked about three characters in each of those types, but little women we wanted to do a little bit differently, not necessarily order of importance, but some of the most obvious.
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SPEAKER_04: So inadvertently, we're gonna start with an Enneagram eight and the heroine of the story.
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SPEAKER_04: You you do, it's obvious.
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SPEAKER_05: So, Joe, what do we think Joe is?
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SPEAKER_05: We we think eight, eight with seven wing or seven with eight.
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SPEAKER_05: It yeah, I can see the different aspects of um, and this is where I wrestle with because of the era in which which it is written in.
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SPEAKER_05: Yes, and women, especially in that era and the rights that they had or did not have, and the cultural expectations and how they were able to.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, how I mean it just made I'm like, thank the Lord for living in this entry that I do because of how their um innateness of being able to express themselves and how that was not necessarily the cultural norm for a woman, for women to be able to um be that more dominant type and have these amazing um thoughts of leadership and of determination, of making their way in the world and not wanting to be limited to just get, you know, fall in love, get married, and have children.
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SPEAKER_05: Right.
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SPEAKER_05: And so I think with Jo, I can see her.
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SPEAKER_05: I wrestled a little bit.
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SPEAKER_05: I was like, obviously, she's in more of that aggressive stance.
15:43
SPEAKER_04: Assertive stance, yeah.
15:44
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that assertive, and she's fine with expressing her opinion about life.
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unknown: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: Um, but then she also has that thrill of like wanting to experience life.
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SPEAKER_05: Like she's like, sometimes there's a quote of, I wish I could be a man so I could go fight in the war.
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SPEAKER_05: Like she just wishes that she wasn't who she was, and it's this constant growth for her of finding the comfort and being secure in her own skin.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: And that she she's a woman, but how can she embrace her womanness and and express it in the way that is still appropriate for the day and age, but yet going against the flow?
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, she was certainly a frustrated character.
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SPEAKER_04: I mean, you that's why you you have so much angst as you read the book, as you watch her character develop.
16:31
SPEAKER_04: So, and I think so.
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SPEAKER_04: That's where it goes two ways.
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SPEAKER_04: I definitely think probably eight wing seven, it could be seven-wing eight.
16:37
SPEAKER_04: She did not want to be limited, she hated the fact, and you know, she she bucked the system as often as possible.
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SPEAKER_04: And that was at least in her home and in her, you know, conversation with her sisters in her mom, she expressed the desire to uh, you know, counter-cultural decisions and you know, ways of thinking and uh and all of that.
16:57
SPEAKER_04: And and she went on to challenge a lot of them.
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SPEAKER_04: Um, which, interestingly enough, and we'll jump to this, I hadn't planned on it this way, but we think that because her dad maybe was a seven wing eight, yeah, potentially an eight-week seven, like we our first thought is a seven, but she seemed to be daddy's girl a lot.
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SPEAKER_04: You could tell that.
17:20
SPEAKER_04: I mean, she loves Marmy, and you know, Marmy's just a favorite character.
17:26
SPEAKER_04: But um, it seems that she really uh adopted a lot of her father's philosophies and wanted to wanted to play a role in seeing them come to pass too.
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SPEAKER_05: Yep, yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: Well, and like you it's even further expressed with the fact that she didn't want to go to Aunt March and ask for money for her mom's train ticket to go to her father when he's ill.
17:46
SPEAKER_05: Right.
17:47
SPEAKER_05: And so she sells her hair.
17:48
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
17:49
SPEAKER_05: Oh my gosh, yes.
17:50
SPEAKER_05: Yes, it's a great moment.
17:51
SPEAKER_05: Just have a good little cry about that of like, wait a minute, what did I do?
17:56
SPEAKER_04: Which is that's the side of the eight that you're like, oh yeah, they are really vulnerable, even though they may be brash and rash and and like forceful, they have a very tender side of vulnerable.
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SPEAKER_05: Well, and the in great health, they can access that too, which it allows them to be able to use that determination and hard work ethic and drive towards others in a powerful way, in a in a in a in a a little bit more of a tender um, it's it's more tenderly expressed.
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SPEAKER_05: Um, they're just able to access that um in a different way, which is great.
18:29
SPEAKER_05: But then also I was thinking here when she moves, I think it's like to New York and she starts getting published, but mainly she kind of starts caving in with the expectations of what is gonna get published.
18:43
SPEAKER_05: She just wants to get published, so she she kind of compromises her initial ideals and it's then well, and I'm totally now skipping of like it skips to Joe.
18:55
SPEAKER_05: Um well, Mr.
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SPEAKER_05: Bear.
18:56
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
18:57
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, go ahead and listen.
18:58
SPEAKER_04: That's great.
18:59
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: Um that is it Friedrich, right?
19:02
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, Friedrich.
19:03
SPEAKER_05: Uh-huh.
19:03
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: Um, that he then kind of anchors her to pulling her back because he's he's able to stand up to her and is honest, and that kind of what makes us think potentially that he he's a five.
19:17
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
19:17
SPEAKER_05: And able to he is extremely brilliant.
19:22
SPEAKER_05: He's not necessarily gonna be overly verbose and expressive initially, like you have to gain that safety net.
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SPEAKER_05: And as he starts kind of getting to know her and she to know him, there's like this deepening um where he recognizes her as a safe person, and he's she's he's intrigued by her, yeah, because of not the typical woman that is of that day and age.
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SPEAKER_04: Well, she she was equally a thinker, um, and I think that's what's fascinating.
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SPEAKER_04: So there's the line of connection between the five and the eight, and how the um the five goes to an eight and seven in stress and health, and you know, there's too much to articulate in that statement, but there's a connecting line, as is there an eight to a five.
20:07
SPEAKER_04: And so, so I think in um in Friedrich Bear's five-ness, he being a more withdrawing type with Joe, who's more assertive, he gives her the space and permission to talk because he's intrigued by how her brain works, and that she is intellectual and she has deep thoughts, and that she's able to express herself, and probably for some of the first time for Joe, and like her dad, probably gave her permission to share who she really was.
20:36
SPEAKER_04: And so there's this kindred ship that is pure friendship and and pure attraction on an intellectual basis, and yet Mr.
20:44
SPEAKER_04: Bear, and after as he's getting to know her and establish this this relationship and be more confident to assert himself, he challenges her to really write what she knows and become who um she knows she would be most proud of, and certainly what he, you know, why he is proud of her and why he likes her, which is just like isn't that so sweet when you dial upon that love story and how it happens?
21:10
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and the fiery passion, like because she just she gets so mad at him, like and hurt and wounded and just offended.
21:17
SPEAKER_04: Like he can handle it, and again, where his lines of stress and growth grow.
21:22
SPEAKER_04: And he's so confident in the withdrawing of what he knows.
21:25
SPEAKER_04: He's like, that's fine.
21:26
SPEAKER_04: You can be, I know what I know, I'm confident of what I know.
21:29
SPEAKER_04: So what?
21:30
SPEAKER_05: Yep, yep, like and I'm right.
21:33
SPEAKER_04: Yep, yep, I know I'm right.
21:35
SPEAKER_04: So I loved by the way, I loved how the character of how they played out the modern day one.
21:41
SPEAKER_04: Um 2018 Little Woman.
21:44
SPEAKER_04: I I just really liked him.
21:46
SPEAKER_04: I thought he was really hunty and cute.
21:48
SPEAKER_05: And then yes, it was quite attractive.
21:51
unknown: Not gonna lie.
21:54
SPEAKER_05: And at first I was like, this is this could be a weird the way they play it out, but they I don't know, it was just cool.
22:00
SPEAKER_05: They did it really well.
22:01
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
22:01
SPEAKER_04: And I think maybe there felt like a little bit less of an age difference, even though you knew there was an age difference.
22:07
SPEAKER_04: It felt a little bit more comfortable or acceptable.
22:10
SPEAKER_04: Especially modern day.
22:11
SPEAKER_04: When you throw modern day, that could that could feel weird.
22:14
SPEAKER_04: It changes the lens, doesn't it?
22:15
unknown: It does.
22:16
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23:07
SPEAKER_04: Okay, so we're gonna go back to the sisters and we're gonna go in birth order.
23:12
SPEAKER_04: And that is Meg.
23:13
SPEAKER_04: Oh darling Meg.
23:15
SPEAKER_04: We we just love her.
23:16
SPEAKER_04: She has she's sweet and she's beautiful and she's kind and she I believe she just carries this type.
23:26
SPEAKER_04: She exudes the peacemaker.
23:28
SPEAKER_04: What do you think?
23:29
SPEAKER_05: I wholeheartedly agree.
23:31
SPEAKER_05: I will not disagree with you there.
23:33
SPEAKER_05: I think she probably um I kind of wrestled with, I don't wonder what her wing would be, but I almost just see her as being purely nine, like just so nine in her essence because she she relates to all the sisters.
23:46
SPEAKER_05: She connects to them.
23:47
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
23:48
SPEAKER_05: Um and she leaves all their points of view, right?
23:51
SPEAKER_05: Yes, she does.
23:52
SPEAKER_05: And she's willing to go along with Joe's antics.
23:55
SPEAKER_05: She's willing to be quiet and calm with Beth, and she's willing to encourage Amy and her snootiness and her and her desire for art.
24:06
SPEAKER_03: For life, for the rich life, you know, I love her.
24:12
SPEAKER_05: Um, but she and yeah, and then she's also gonna follow um Marmy's wishes and wants to wants to have that, but her sweet dreams, she does have dreams of her own, which I think shows just her shrewdness of her anchor point of like, I know I want to be married, I want to fall in love.
24:34
SPEAKER_05: I, you know, those dreams that you have, Joe, are your dreams, but my dreams are of love and marriage and family and creating what we've been able to have, which yeah, that kind of goes to that standpoint of um nines are I think they're past oriented, right?
24:53
SPEAKER_05: In terms of time orientation.
24:54
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
24:55
SPEAKER_05: So like pulling that romanticism of that what they've had and wanting to continue that in and carry that, I think is kind of shows a little bit of that motivation of Meg.
25:07
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
25:08
SPEAKER_05: Um, but also her desire to fit in.
25:11
SPEAKER_05: She she gets she does have that moment of um kind of wanting to keep the peace and compromise when she's invited to the ball.
25:21
SPEAKER_05: Of um, I I just remember the last name being Gardner.
25:24
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, Belle Gardner.
25:25
SPEAKER_05: But she's Belle Gardner, that's right.
25:27
SPEAKER_05: Um, and she they kind of pull her into their stuff and she kind of goes along with it because there's that pull of I want to be accepted, yeah, I want to be loved, I want to be, you know, I want to fit in, I want to see that my my person has space and value in this setting.
25:47
SPEAKER_04: Your presence matters.
25:48
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, your presence matters, and so her willing to kind of go along with it.
25:54
SPEAKER_04: Oh, it's so good.
25:55
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I love how you pointed that out as a nine that she was able to connect to each sister right where they were at.
26:01
SPEAKER_04: And I think that is the gift that nine brings uh in a beautiful way.
26:04
SPEAKER_04: That's good.
26:05
SPEAKER_04: Okay, so the other sister, Beth.
26:09
SPEAKER_00: Oh, we love Beth.
26:10
SPEAKER_00: I know.
26:11
SPEAKER_04: I think it's hate to make Beth this number for this type for so many different reasons.
26:19
SPEAKER_05: Well, it's funny because you had said two, and I was like, no.
26:24
SPEAKER_05: Because I'm a two.
26:25
SPEAKER_05: Because you're a two.
26:26
SPEAKER_05: And then I was like, no, no, no.
26:28
SPEAKER_05: She must be a nine.
26:29
SPEAKER_04: She like, I could see her being type two, yes, and you know why?
26:36
SPEAKER_04: As Beth could see the perspective, or sorry, as as May could see the perspective of all of her sisters, Beth wanted to help make all of her sisters' dreams come true and reality.
26:48
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, she was there to defend and support and encourage and champion.
26:55
SPEAKER_04: And sadly, and this is what we don't want for every type two, which is to not have any dreams of your own.
27:03
SPEAKER_04: And I know as Beth characters play out, you know, she dies and way too young, and it's the tragedy that we all cry over again and again and again because we just love Beth.
27:13
SPEAKER_04: But she felt her life's mission to see her sisters happy and to see everyone around her um have their dreams realized.
27:23
unknown: I know.
27:25
SPEAKER_05: It's so painful.
27:26
SPEAKER_05: Well, and she and she feels like you said, like she wants to see her sister's dreams, but she likes she feels them, she doesn't just see their perspective, she feels what they're feeling.
27:38
SPEAKER_05: That's true.
27:39
SPEAKER_05: And she that's true, she can have that ache and pinpoint of especially like when Joe finds out that Amy gets to go on the European tour.
27:48
SPEAKER_05: Oh, that's right.
27:49
SPEAKER_05: That's a good one.
27:50
SPEAKER_05: Oh, and Beth is just pulled between the two.
27:53
SPEAKER_05: She's like so excited for Amy, and then like feels the grief of Joe.
28:00
SPEAKER_04: Oh my gosh, is that your life story or what it is?
28:04
SPEAKER_06: It's like, oh, I feel that so deeply.
28:07
SPEAKER_04: Yes, yes, yes, because the two's in the heart triad and you know, the dependence dance, and yeah, um, I mean, just so many beautiful gifts that the two has to offer.
28:18
SPEAKER_04: But yeah, you do you feel that ache for everybody.
28:23
SPEAKER_05: I don't know if you knew this, but like in college, there was four of us girls.
28:27
SPEAKER_05: Um, this is when I was a performing arts major.
28:30
SPEAKER_05: And the four of us girls, um, we just went several different shows together, same hall we lived on in the same dorm.
28:37
SPEAKER_05: And we became known as we just loved little women, and we all became characters.
28:44
SPEAKER_05: Right.
28:45
SPEAKER_05: And I was oh my gosh, how prophetic.
28:50
SPEAKER_05: And that's crazy.
28:51
SPEAKER_05: That was even before the ending of Grant.
28:52
SPEAKER_05: That was even before really, I mean, I was 18, 19 and did not know life, and it makes sense now.
28:59
SPEAKER_05: Like they saw stuff in me that I know I knew ourselves.
29:04
SPEAKER_04: Oh, how fitting.
29:06
SPEAKER_04: Oh, that's crazy.
29:07
SPEAKER_04: Okay, so Amy, darling Amy, the youngest sister, and and to clarify, um, Meg is the oldest, but we had to go with Joe first because she is the main character.
29:18
SPEAKER_04: So it's Meg, Joe, Beth, and Amy, just in case someone didn't know.
29:22
SPEAKER_04: Um, so the youngest Amy, of course, you know, when my kids ever hear characters like in Overcomer, the Overcomer movie that came out in August.
29:31
SPEAKER_04: Um, the wife of the coach, her name was Amy, and Miles just thought that was the coolest thing.
29:36
SPEAKER_04: Mom, it's you.
29:37
SPEAKER_04: And so we watch a little woman, like Amy, it's Amy.
29:41
SPEAKER_04: And so Amy, oh my gosh, you guys guess what number she is.
29:47
SPEAKER_05: Three.
29:47
SPEAKER_05: She's a three.
29:49
SPEAKER_05: You know, they're but that like okay, let's think about threes in their best.
29:53
SPEAKER_05: They're playful, they're giving, they're responsible, they're well guarded in other communities.
29:59
SPEAKER_05: You know, they they guard others well.
30:02
SPEAKER_05: Um, you know, but like, and and the beauty of Amy is that she she's quite young in the start of the story, and she grows.
30:10
SPEAKER_05: So there's maturity that happens.
30:12
SPEAKER_05: That's right.
30:13
SPEAKER_05: So we get to see her in her most like out of all the girls, she's the least um mature.
30:19
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
30:20
SPEAKER_05: Because she is younger.
30:21
SPEAKER_05: So there is so just there's reason for that.
30:23
SPEAKER_05: That's true.
30:25
SPEAKER_04: I just don't see myself like that as a child or as a preteen.
30:29
SPEAKER_04: But but I have come to realize that when I was very young, um, in particular, in different times, if I'm admitted, admitted to it, if I will admit to it, then I realized that name brand, clothing, and wanting to fit in.
30:46
SPEAKER_04: And I so I wanted at four years old at in preschool, I wanted to wear a certain brand of clothing so the other Southern California kids would accept me.
30:55
SPEAKER_04: I I mean that right there, I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm such a thing.
30:58
SPEAKER_04: And yes, Amy, sweet Amy, I totally get you.
31:02
SPEAKER_04: And yeah, thank you, Jesus.
31:04
SPEAKER_04: We all grow and mature mature.
31:06
SPEAKER_04: And we learn the Enneagram now, so we can become our best selves.
31:10
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
31:12
SPEAKER_05: It's true.
31:12
SPEAKER_05: Well, she yes, and she is so concerned with others.
31:16
SPEAKER_05: She wants to achieve, she wants to be the best painter that she can be.
31:21
SPEAKER_05: She wants the skinny nose because she feels like her nose is too big.
31:26
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, too big.
31:27
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, Amy.
31:28
SPEAKER_04: I feel you.
31:28
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I was wondering.
31:29
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
31:30
SPEAKER_05: You do not have a big oh my goodness, no.
31:33
SPEAKER_05: Um, and then the lines.
31:34
SPEAKER_05: Oh lines at school to be accepted, socially accepted by the girls.
31:41
SPEAKER_05: Yes, and more popular.
31:42
SPEAKER_05: She got Meg's rag money for the month and got lines.
31:46
SPEAKER_05: And she then was kind of sassy to her school teacher, and she got um kind of not caned, but she got whipped on her hands.
31:56
SPEAKER_05: Yes, she kind of whipped the rule for that one.
31:59
SPEAKER_04: I don't think she bought lines again to school.
32:01
SPEAKER_04: In fact, she ended up being homeschooled in the end, so which I don't think she really loved either.
32:07
SPEAKER_04: No, because um was responsible for her schooling.
32:11
SPEAKER_05: It was like the mom's worst and best punishment ever.
32:14
SPEAKER_05: Two assertive types.
32:16
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, let me just tell you, as a homeschool mom of three assertive types, that only lasted for so many years.
32:24
SPEAKER_03: So great.
32:26
SPEAKER_05: Well then speaking of Marmy, yeah, that she she's kind of the glue.
32:31
SPEAKER_05: She is the glue.
32:33
SPEAKER_05: She, you know, because she's actually more, she's in it more than the the father because he's fighting in the civil war.
32:37
SPEAKER_05: Well, he's he's not fighting, he's a chaplain.
32:39
SPEAKER_05: That's right.
32:40
SPEAKER_05: In the civil war.
32:40
SPEAKER_04: He's serving in the civil war, yeah.
32:42
SPEAKER_04: So she's holding down the fort.
32:43
SPEAKER_04: And what do you think she is?
32:45
SPEAKER_05: Um mean, I just feel like she has to be a one.
32:49
SPEAKER_05: I think so too.
32:50
SPEAKER_05: I could see her being one wing too, because she she's justice oriented.
32:55
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, she's driven by the needs of those who are less fort fortunate, even though her family's struggling.
33:00
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, she's still um she is constantly thinking ahead and planning and trying to be the best caretaker.
33:10
SPEAKER_05: She wants her children to turn out well, yeah, and to be appropriate young women and to be good.
33:15
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
33:16
SPEAKER_05: And um how that's executed for each of her daughters is different.
33:21
SPEAKER_05: And I do appreciate that with Marmi, is that she she recognizes the different giftings of her girls, yeah, and which I think shows maturity of her as a one, that it's not just exact same cookie cutter, that that she can see um their differences, and that's where maybe she could be she maybe she has both wings because she can appreciate and see the value of all their fieriness, but then um she she does a lot for serving the poor, yeah, um, like the Hummels, and um that's where Beth then goes and serves and gets sick.
33:57
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I think Mami is one of the most balanced of the characters, so I would agree that she is the one with very two um two balanced wings in there that play and that help her be a really great model of motherhood.
34:10
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I actually think that in a study of motherhood, you know, not too unlike the idea of Proverbs 30, one woman, you know, not to achieve this perfection, but to kind of see, okay, how did she do it?
34:21
SPEAKER_04: And that was like you said, she was willing to see the perspective of each daughter.
34:25
SPEAKER_04: She was wanting to help make each of them um the best, reach their best potential and to enjoy life um, you know, to the best of their ability.
34:35
SPEAKER_04: And then she was also, you know, helping um not just her family but the community and was aware of the different needs.
34:41
SPEAKER_04: So I think I think it's good.
34:42
SPEAKER_04: I think I think I would definitely be confident to say that she's a one.
34:46
SPEAKER_04: So now we have um a few more characters here, and they are you know very much important part of the story, and I'm so glad it's not as many characters as Down Abby.
34:57
SPEAKER_03: Yes, it's a little sort of a narrow field.
35:00
SPEAKER_05: It's true, it's true, because we have the wonderful Teddy or Lori.
35:05
SPEAKER_05: Theodora Boris.
35:08
SPEAKER_05: Theodora's I mean that's a great president, but um yeah, no, he's obviously in the heart triad.
35:17
SPEAKER_05: He feels the feels so deeply feeling, and they're extreme.
35:22
SPEAKER_05: And so that would make him a wonderful four.
35:24
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's a four.
35:26
SPEAKER_04: Wing three, mind you.
35:28
SPEAKER_04: Yes, I don't see the wing five.
35:29
SPEAKER_05: I see exactly or wing three, which I think I mean to go back to Amy, yeah.
35:35
SPEAKER_05: Right, because they not to spoil, I mean, people like not to spoil having seen little women.
35:40
SPEAKER_05: Come on.
35:40
SPEAKER_05: Yes, I know.
35:42
SPEAKER_05: I I mean, I'm judging, but not.
35:44
unknown: Yeah.
35:46
SPEAKER_05: Um, he and Amy end up together after he thought he was so in love with Joe and she refuses him.
35:53
SPEAKER_05: Right.
35:53
SPEAKER_05: And she had a good head on her shoulders, like she logically knew because she was in that that like in that guttural no knowledge, yeah, that's like, no, like this is not gonna be okay.
36:04
SPEAKER_05: We would kill each other and they wouldn't.
36:07
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and whereas Amy's that three-wing four, definitely, and Lori's that three four-wing three, and I think there's just such a beauty, and I know all types work together, but I think there's just like that fun of like that's why they work well, and why you as a reader can accept him falling in love with Amy.
36:24
SPEAKER_05: Absolutely, yeah.
36:25
SPEAKER_04: I think about his stint of his rebelliousness to want to be unique and different when he's in France as well.
36:33
SPEAKER_04: And yeah, just you know, he uh yes, he's going to relinquish his music and give himself to the study of grandfather's business, but he's got to do it in his unique fashion and you know, like try out all like the crazy, you know, just to be as unique as possible.
36:49
SPEAKER_04: He does not want to be put in a box at all.
36:51
SPEAKER_04: He he detests the limitations that having to take over a business would cause him to do it.
36:56
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he'll express his melancholy in his forness through his piano playing.
37:02
SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
37:02
SPEAKER_05: So he his melancholy is his happy place, and that's where he can express it so well.
37:07
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, oh he's such a fort.
37:09
SPEAKER_05: His yes, his tutor, um, yeah, John Brooks.
37:13
SPEAKER_05: John Brooks.
37:14
SPEAKER_05: Oh, we love John Brooks.
37:15
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yes, he's steady, and again, the 2018 version.
37:19
SPEAKER_04: I really liked how they cast him as well.
37:22
SPEAKER_04: It was so great.
37:23
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I really watch that yet again.
37:25
SPEAKER_05: I know, me too.
37:26
SPEAKER_04: I'm ready as he waits.
37:27
SPEAKER_05: October.
37:28
SPEAKER_05: Yes, yep.
37:29
SPEAKER_05: Um, but yeah, he's the six.
37:32
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I think so.
37:33
SPEAKER_04: And I think he's loyal and steady to the Lawrence family, um, and his, you know, putting up with Lori's antics and you know, yeah, being kind of the steady, hey no, we need to do this.
37:46
SPEAKER_04: But also in his romance with Meg, because that took a while.
37:50
SPEAKER_05: It did.
37:51
SPEAKER_05: I think it was, wasn't it five years from or I know for sure three-year engagement because he had to like earn enough money, he had to be able to provide for her.
38:00
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but there was quite a bit of time between too, where he had fallen in love with her and taken her glove, you know, this mysterious glove, you know, mysterious mystery of the missing glove.
38:12
SPEAKER_04: And in the end, John Brooks had it because he was admiring Meg from afar, and he was cautious, cautious in his loyalty.
38:21
SPEAKER_05: And he was willing to escort Marmy to the hospital when when um Mr.
38:26
SPEAKER_05: March is injured, yes, and when father is sick, and so he he takes her and he escorts her there, and then he so calmly expresses his deep love for Meg when he has both parents to him.
38:43
SPEAKER_05: Yes, yes, oh yeah, I know.
38:45
SPEAKER_04: I love that.
38:46
SPEAKER_04: I think I think he's such a great character, and maybe overlooked a little bit because he isn't assertive and certainly, you know, just a yeah um just part of the story, not the focus.
38:57
SPEAKER_04: Um okay, and then the last one that we thought would be fun to talk about is Mr.
39:02
SPEAKER_04: Lawrence, which is Lori's grandfather.
39:05
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, he um he's a little bit more complex, I think we mentioned, because he um there's a storyline that he had lost his daughter, right?
39:15
SPEAKER_05: And of course, which is Lori's mom.
39:17
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, Lori's mom.
39:18
SPEAKER_05: And there's such there there had been a falling out kind of already indicated prior to her death.
39:25
SPEAKER_05: And so his that loss for him has been not just recent but an ongoing years for years.
39:33
SPEAKER_05: And so um, he obviously is a deep feeler, but he has this sense of what is right and his sense of duty.
39:41
SPEAKER_05: Um, he takes a special likeness to sweet Beth.
39:46
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
39:46
SPEAKER_05: Um, he sees something in her um that softens him and brings him out of himself a little bit, yeah.
39:53
SPEAKER_05: Um, and then eventually gifts the piano that he held so dear to um his to Beth.
40:00
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
40:01
SPEAKER_05: And so it's a sweet gift.
40:02
SPEAKER_05: So I don't know, we kind of wrestled.
40:04
SPEAKER_05: I I kind of wrestled with that, I could totally see him being a four with that three-wing or three with a four-wing because that sense of of accomplishment and me.
40:13
SPEAKER_05: But I don't know.
40:13
SPEAKER_04: What were what were your I think I think three is probably right, mostly because he doesn't deal with his feelings appropriately.
40:22
SPEAKER_04: And he I know, and and sad to say, he feels them greatly, he has a sorrow and this pain associated with his daughter.
40:31
SPEAKER_04: But in the end, the idea of appearance and cultural norm trumped his feelings towards his daughter or the relationship he wanted to have with her, which caused the relationship to be severed.
40:44
SPEAKER_04: But then, you know, the sense of duty and the maybe unspoken longing to have a relationship then overrides, and then he, you know, he takes care of his grandson then and does a really good job.
40:55
SPEAKER_04: But it's really important for him as a grandfather to make sure his grandson doesn't follow in the same footsteps as his daughter and see her fate.
41:04
SPEAKER_04: So he he totally emphasizes Lori doing the right thing and you know, making, you know, putting aside his desire for music and art and his foreness of desire to create and to do the right thing.
41:19
SPEAKER_05: Mr.
41:19
SPEAKER_05: Lawrence is kind of he's underrated a little bit because he is a very significant player in the background.
41:26
SPEAKER_05: Because as Teddy um befriends the March family, that actually kind of helps spark his focus a little bit more outward because he was so inward drawn and he got in touch with recognizing this family right next door that have some beautiful needs too and important needs, but beautiful women that needed kind of a father figure that as father was away, he really stepped in and helped provide some significant needs.
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SPEAKER_05: He provided doctor for Beth when she was so ill, yeah, his personal family physician.
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SPEAKER_05: He provided um money technically for Mrs.
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SPEAKER_05: Lawrence and allowed John Brooks to accompany Mrs.
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SPEAKER_05: Um sorry, um Marmy, Marmy, Miss March.
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SPEAKER_05: And um he really he stepped out of himself, and so I feel like there's a such a beauty in showing that power of community as he was drawn into that March family that it allowed that healing and restoration for him, his character and his journey um for for full growth for him, yeah, um, which I think I think was sweet.
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SPEAKER_05: So oh yeah, I liked it.
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SPEAKER_05: I like Mr.
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SPEAKER_04: Lawrence.
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SPEAKER_04: Yes, yes, oh man.
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SPEAKER_04: Well, I cannot wait to see this movie with you.
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SPEAKER_04: We're gonna have to go see it because it's out Christmas.
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SPEAKER_04: I think that'll have to be my birthday plan for my 14th birthday.
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SPEAKER_04: Go see Lil Woman.
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SPEAKER_04: Sure, sure, no doubt.
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SPEAKER_04: Oh, I love this.
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SPEAKER_04: Thank you for indulging us.
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SPEAKER_04: And I hope that everyone enjoyed this as much as we did.
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SPEAKER_04: For sure.
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SPEAKER_04: Grab your favorite girls, whether they're your daughters or your sisters or your mom or your friends, and go see this treasured movie.
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SPEAKER_04: It's gonna be so good.
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SPEAKER_05: It is gonna be so great.
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SPEAKER_05: Thanks for having me.
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SPEAKER_04: Are you so ready to hop into the story of Little Women?
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SPEAKER_04: I hope you might enjoy this classic narrative even more and learned a few more insights about the Enneagram.
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SPEAKER_04: When you go take your favorite people to go see the movie this holiday season, tag Simply Whole Hearted on the socials so I can say hi and find out what you thought of this newest version of Little Women.
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SPEAKER_04: Before this one comes out, I'll most likely be watching a few versions both Annalise and I mentioned earlier.
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SPEAKER_04: And if you'd like to check out the options, I've linked to all of those in the show notes.
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SPEAKER_04: I hope you'll join Simply Whole Heart on Instagram for the Enneagram conversation to be inspired to live your best wholehearted life.
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SPEAKER_04: Next Monday, we'll continue our Avent season of celebration with an episode that will be a first of its kind for Simply Wholehearted.
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SPEAKER_04: Over the years, I've shared my struggle with the month of December and even my battle with a scarcity mindset.
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SPEAKER_04: This summer, I had a vision for writing project that was a little different than what I've given in the past.
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SPEAKER_04: I wasn't sure exactly how it would turn out, or even if I could pull it up.
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SPEAKER_04: But I think it's happened.
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SPEAKER_04: The Lord truly inspired me in a whole new way, and I could feel his guidance as it took twists and turns.
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SPEAKER_04: This may be what I consider my opus for the year, and a work that is near and dear to my heart.
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SPEAKER_04: So, what I'll be giving you this Christmas season is a dramatic reading of a tale that I have called The Redemption of Mrs.
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SPEAKER_04: Scrooge.
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SPEAKER_04: It's truly a labor of love that I hope will bless you and your family and inspire generosity this holiday season.
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SPEAKER_04: I'd be honored to have you listen and share with your loved ones.
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SPEAKER_04: So until next week, let's invite others to join us as we pursue perspective, purpose, and plans for a simple, whole-hearted life.
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SPEAKER_04: Are you excited about bouncy?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh play.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that is super fun.
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SPEAKER_04: You were gonna go to Jesus and big bounce.