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- 0:04Thank you for listening to De Pictures Media Radio. You rat you readything to
- 0:31me? Oh well, jus well not a bad stop at salmash along is
- 1:26it as a man? Welcome back, everybody. Our next guest is president
- 1:40of shop x, Web three, e commerce co founder, n chief Growth
- 1:47Officer of data and AI powered matchmaking in service. He founded a vc SaaS
- 2:02platform that worked at He also worked at snap and in Barcelona in DC and
- 2:12Barcelona, and as a consultant for Fortune five hundred companies going through a bankruptcy
- 2:20process. He is also an expert on things like blockchains and cryptocurrencies. One
- 2:30of the reasons why we want to have him on the show so that he
- 2:34could tell us more about these things and how they actually could be affecting our
- 2:42economy. Some of his most present interests are Web three and we're going to
- 2:50ask them questions about what web three actually means, AI and quantum spirituality.
- 2:58So he's it's got a lot of things going on for him. Along with
- 3:02that, he loves to play chess, mo Tai and other games to really
- 3:12truly activate the brain and druss me the guys. Is a genius. But
- 3:20at the same time, while he's a genius. He's down to earth and
- 3:23wants to simply help people and help our world develop into a better place.
- 3:30So why don't we meet Eric McHugh and we'll bring him on the show.
- 4:06Welcome to the show, Eric, And you got some really valuable information on
- 4:13blockchains and Web three. What that really means to us, and why don't
- 4:18we start off and dive into that. Hey Michael, and again, thank
- 4:25you so much for having me. I'm really grateful. In terms of Web
- 4:29three, if you're trying to understand what Web three is and why it's important,
- 4:32it's important to go back to Web one versus Web two versus Web three.
- 4:38So in Web one, the easiest way to think about it is read
- 4:42only. If you're online, and Web one you could read content, which
- 4:46is great because it's really expedited the spread of information, which helped us all
- 4:49move forward as humans. Web two, the easiest way to frame that is
- 4:54as social media. So just think of Instagram, YouTube, or Facebook.
- 4:59In Web two, you can read and you can write. So I can
- 5:01write an Instagram post, you can read that Instagram post, you can interact
- 5:05with that post, you can do what you will with my content. The
- 5:11only issues we don't own the content on that Instagram example, Instagram owns the
- 5:15content. They can cancel us whenever they want. They get sell my data
- 5:17front of various purposes. It's really up to them. Instagram has the power
- 5:23in web three. I want you to think of read, write, and
- 5:27own some Web three I can read content, I can write content, and
- 5:31I can own the content. And the vehicle for owning the content is either
- 5:35a cryptocurrency or a non fundable token or NFT for short. This is important
- 5:42because let's say hypothetically, I create an NFT, I give you the NFT.
- 5:47Now there's a relationship between me and you, and I can send value
- 5:51your way because the NFC proves our relationship. And the cooler part is you
- 5:57own that NFT. I created the NFTs, so I can't take it away
- 6:00from you. The government can't take away that n FT from you. Instagram
- 6:03can take away that n FT from you. You only you can decide what
- 6:06to do with the NFT. Yeah, to find what NFT meets. So
- 6:13NFT stands for non fungible token, so essentially that means digital scarcity on the
- 6:17Internet. A nice analogy I like to use is just think of an NFT
- 6:21as like a plot of land in cyberspace. You own the NFT, you
- 6:25own the plot of land. You get to decide what to do with that
- 6:27MT. So for example, like if it's in real life, I own
- 6:30a plot of land, I may build a house, I may build a
- 6:32garden, I may build a business. It's up to me. So if
- 6:35NF like you own that n FT in cyberspace, you decide what benefits going
- 6:40to that MPT. So for example, my area of expertise in e commerce,
- 6:43I can add brand benefits, but you could add exclusive content as a
- 6:46podcaster, if you're a famous position, you could add access to in real
- 6:49life events, It's up to the creator to decide. Okay, that makes
- 6:56sense. It's it's kind of basically creating more well with Web one because I've
- 7:05been in in kind of in uh in the internet thing since since Web one,
- 7:15their only real estate was your your was your domain name. So now
- 7:18we're creating larger plots of land that we can own. Yeah, that makes
- 7:25sense. And even in Web one with the domain name, you don't actually
- 7:30own the domain name. So the server like the Go Daddies or whoever leased
- 7:34out the domain name, they own the domain name, so they can take
- 7:39it back from you wherever you want, Whereas in web three, even the
- 7:42domain name is owned by the user. So there's a protocol called the ens
- 7:45protocol. So just think of it like a dot com. So I have
- 7:48eric mcue dot com. I also have Eric mchue dot eth, so I
- 7:53own eric mcu dot eth. So that's my domain name. I can redirect
- 7:57whatever I want to eric mcute dot eth. Then no one can take it
- 8:01away from me because it's owned by me. It's owned by my private key,
- 8:05So only I have access to ericq dot eth. Because I own that
- 8:07URL, I can redirect the website to it. I can use that as
- 8:11people can send money to ericmq dot eth. So if I were running a
- 8:13donation service, let's say I owned USC donations dot ether, which I do
- 8:18I plan to sell to them in the future because I can. But they
- 8:20can use that as a donation service, like, hey, where do I
- 8:22donate? I'll just send money to USC donations dot eth and then USC donations
- 8:28at eight they will see the money. It's their money, and then they
- 8:30can do what they will with it. So they owned the domain name and
- 8:31web three. Let's see a lot, a lot of it sounds like Web
- 8:41three is making it so that it's easier for the individual to own more over
- 8:52over maybe say the larger corporations or something like that. Yeah, so in
- 8:56web three the area is owned by the builders and the users versus the large
- 9:01corporations and the governments. Yeah. So with with all that, how how's
- 9:09it actually going to affect our economy? Because you know, not to be
- 9:13this isn't really a political show, but like a lot of people are are
- 9:20out there starving because of lack of funding in our economy. So I would
- 9:26say, again, this might get a little political because it's the nature of
- 9:30the topic, but I wouldn't say people are starving because of the lack of
- 9:33funding. I would say people are starving because of too much funding, meaning
- 9:39too much money printing. So hypothetically, when someone prints money, what does
- 9:43that do? Like if I were able to print ten dollars ten US dollars,
- 9:48I would get ten dollars, yes, but I would take ten dollars
- 9:50of value collectively from the rest of the people. So if we do that
- 9:54scale, let's say print twenty trillion dollars, then from there your dollars get
- 9:58less. So we see food price go up, we see housing prices go
- 10:01up, which has resulted in this result in a scarcely mindset of lack because
- 10:07people can't really afford to do anything like look at the price of gas,
- 10:11look at the price of food. I go to Chipotle. Now it's like
- 10:13fifteen bucks. I'm like, why is Chipotle fifteen dollars? The only should
- 10:16be a five dollar thing. We just have Subway five dollars footlungs Now it's
- 10:18eleven bucks. And that's because they're printing too much money out of They're printing
- 10:24too much money to spend their way out of solutions. So I think crypto
- 10:28and web free solves this. The reason it solves this is I think it
- 10:31resets the base incentive structure. So let's say, hypothetically, right now,
- 10:37if I want to become as rich as I possibly could, how do I
- 10:39become rich without doing any work or producing any value. I place myself right
- 10:45next to the money printer, and I extract as much as I can aka
- 10:48governments and politicians. What happens when I extract that wealth done money printer,
- 10:52AI get it to my government consulting like contractor, friends, we pay two
- 10:56hundred dollars for like a water bottle to that scale, Well, they get
- 11:00rich too. I bring my two other crypt friends. Now there's three of
- 11:03us sitting right next to the money printer, extracting value and becoming rich off
- 11:07of everyone else. The three of the three of us corrupt politicians because we
- 11:11have access to money, Like think about lobbying. Where's that money come from?
- 11:15The lobbying, the money it backs us, We stay in power,
- 11:18We bring in three other we beat the three non crypt politicians, and this
- 11:22just scales up over and over again until we have what we have now.
- 11:26So if you look at our economic system right now, there are plenty of
- 11:28people taking from the faucet from like me, you and all the hard working
- 11:31people we work for our money. But there are people who are just printing
- 11:35money and just spending a willy nilly. So that's an incentive issue. The
- 11:39incentive is two places. So nice to the money printer, cryptocurrency and Web
- 11:43three. They fix this. How do they fix this? They create a
- 11:48hard cap. So let's say at a crypto or bitcoin er Web three world,
- 11:52and again I view every wealth has neutral I think they are good ways
- 11:54to make money. I think there are bad ways to make money. I
- 11:56think there's karmic retribution for both. But let's say it's a crypto world.
- 12:00Let's say Michael, I want your bitcoin. How do I get Michael's bitcoin?
- 12:03Well, I have to produce some value for Michael, and then michaelis'
- 12:05voluntarily sent me the bitcoin. So let's say let's say hypothetic, it's a
- 12:09bitcoin world. Hypothetically I want a lot of money. How do I do
- 12:13this? It looks like I have to produce a tremendous amount of value for
- 12:16a lot of people. And me as an individual, now my incentives are,
- 12:20okay, how do I add positive to the world. But that scales
- 12:22up for a lot of people over time, so it's not just me,
- 12:24it's a million other people thinking okay, we want to be rich. Well,
- 12:28let's try to find ways to create value. We start trying to wig
- 12:31secreate value. Some fail, some work, and we just optimize from there.
- 12:35And this also it also opens up the global marketplace like for example,
- 12:39like a can in India could craft a website, you can do his thing.
- 12:43He has access to the global marketplace because of the decentralized nature of cryptocurrency.
- 12:46So I I could pay a kid in India twenty bucks for a service,
- 12:52you can get pretty much all that twenty bucks versus now if I pay
- 12:54the kid in India using Western Mutual we have remittances, there's like a thirty
- 12:58percent fee. And again that's just crypto just solves that. So it's with
- 13:07all this, it sounds like we need to have a change in attitude about
- 13:11how we see value and how we value others around us. Yeah, no
- 13:18other thanks. I like I view with the world as in the sense of
- 13:20value creation. So if you remember the scene in The Big Short. Did
- 13:24you see that movie? Yeah? Yeah, Do you remember the scene where
- 13:28and I do this a lot with my major of the companies and whatever.
- 13:31Do you remember the scene when the Micae Scott character meets with the Asian shorter
- 13:35or whatever the banker is, and the Asian shorts like, tell me your
- 13:37net worth? And then the Michael Scott character is like, So, like,
- 13:41I view that's as how a lot of people act right now. But
- 13:46now I view I view people in the sense like, Okay, do you
- 13:48do good? Do you harm people? No? Great? Do you take
- 13:52from people? No great? Do you add value to people? Great?
- 13:54So that's that's the ones I view people. It's like, I think the
- 13:56value creators should be rewarded versus like the fancies us who don't really do anything.
- 14:01And I think we talked about the music industry the past, like thinking
- 14:05of how many people are just siponing money off the artists when the money like
- 14:07I think, yeah, we were the ones who talked about Tupac where it's
- 14:09like he died, what happened to that? That wouldn't happen in a web
- 14:13Thay world because Tupac would own his acids. His family can verify he owns
- 14:16his acid and then they could they could easily pass his next of kin versus
- 14:20the producer just sipening all of that all. Yeah, because you know,
- 14:26if we if we look a lot of look at a lot of what's happening
- 14:28in today's world, a lot of it leads back to a lot of inequality.
- 14:33That there's only people, a few people at the top that hold value
- 14:39and they let whatever trickle down that they want to trickle down. That even
- 14:46even that like the trickle, we both know that trickle is very small and
- 14:50the family's at the top of It's like the Rothschilds, the rich banking families.
- 14:54What end ups happening, what and never ends happening is just they got
- 14:56him power a while ago. They use their money to empower. They have
- 15:01legal modes, they have financial modes. I don't even touched. They fund
- 15:03both sides of the war. And this is all financed by Fiat money.
- 15:07So like, how can how can a rich family theoretically fund both sides of
- 15:11war? Well, if the US people, if they had to physically take
- 15:15it from like a population, that'd be much harder to do versus just pretty
- 15:18money out of thin air. And then we feel the effects of generations later
- 15:22later, but by that time it's too late. Yeah. So you all
- 15:28the work that you do, you're trying to create that equal world, right
- 15:35with with with the with the projects that you have, and and how you
- 15:41like to see AI used and things like that, and all the all these
- 15:46new really techy things that are out there. Right, you're trying to help
- 15:50create that equal world. Yes, I'm trying to create a more equal world
- 15:54and a more happy world. And I view technology as a neutral case,
- 15:56so I'd be blockchained as neutral, I've AI as neutral. So some people
- 16:02use blockchain for bad, some people use A for bad. Some people use
- 16:04AI for good, some people use blockchain for good. Some trying to inject
- 16:10both both technologies into the masses by offering real world use cases for both sets
- 16:15of tech. Yeah, so why don't we talk about some of your favorite
- 16:22projects right now that did in how they're actually creating value in our world and
- 16:29and what their future could actually be. Yeah. So I believe everyone is
- 16:33best. I think everyone's happiest when they're serving other people. And I think
- 16:38God or the creator, whoever you want you, whoever you want to whatever,
- 16:41whatever you want to call it, I think he blesses us with individual
- 16:44gifts that we should be authentic and leverage our individual gifts to serve other people.
- 16:48Which is why it's important to follow your intellectual curiosity. If it's something
- 16:52you actually want to do, you'll do benefit someone versus if someone's telling you
- 16:56what to do. So I'm working with two projects right now. The first
- 16:59is shopacks that's Web three powered e commerce. So my overall lie for this,
- 17:04and we went over this early in the podcast with the cryptocurrency talk.
- 17:07I would like to live a nice, peaceful life. I found that difficult
- 17:11to do if I be the money system as interrupt that led me to physical
- 17:15gold, physical silver as a solution to that, which led me to bitcoin
- 17:18as ultimate solution, and shotbax is a way for me to onboard people into
- 17:22that ecosystem at scale. So what we do is we offer e commerce brands
- 17:27incentive and ways to enter the web three space. So imagine this, you're
- 17:32an e commerce brand, You're on Shopify, you're on wood Commerce. You
- 17:36can download our app and directly within your Shopify app, you can launch your
- 17:40own smart contract collection and then add e commerce benefits to that smart contract collection.
- 17:45So for example, that he could launch a gold, silver Bronze style
- 17:49pass collection with us. The Gold passholders get product A for free, Silver
- 17:53passholders get product B for fifty percent off. Bronze pass holders just get early
- 17:59access to product product C. If the customer wants access to product A,
- 18:04they have to purchase the nftor webity product and this creates incentive for them to
- 18:10enter the space. And once they enter the space, it says zero to
- 18:12one moment at scale, which I think is awesome because you do I think
- 18:17you know, but you can't force anyone to do anything. So we're offering
- 18:21incentives for both customers and brands to enter the space, and when designing our
- 18:26products, we factor in every person. We ensure everyone win, making the
- 18:32system architecture sustainable. So like okay, who's involved. The brand is involved,
- 18:37They are in higher customer loyalty, they are in revenue, they win.
- 18:41The brand's customers involved. Oh, they get e commerce benefits. They
- 18:45wouldn't enter the space if they won't getting e commerce benefits. They win.
- 18:48Shop X is involved because shop X we earn our money when a brand makes
- 18:52the NFT sales. So if a brand sells one pass for one hundred bucks,
- 18:56they get ninety five, we get five. We win our community.
- 19:00We share our revenue with our community for helping our ecosystem grow. So if
- 19:03that in that example, the brand gets ninety five shopbacksers five, we get
- 19:08two point five to our community. They win for helping our ecosystem grow.
- 19:12Crypto out a whole wins because we're all boarding major brands like Fox TV into
- 19:17the space. So they win the world. The world wins because more people
- 19:19are mold in crypto. We create more fair, more balanced ecosystem where value
- 19:23is rewarded, red seekin is not rewarded. They win generations I think future
- 19:29generations win because again we're helping create that ecosystem. Just think about logic,
- 19:33were like if how many hours would you have to work if you weren't getting
- 19:36tax like forty percent, and they're printing money anyway, so the taxing is
- 19:38kind of pointless. So like we get people back their time, we let
- 19:41them, we let them create. We help bring forward a mindset of abundance,
- 19:47and that's how we all win as a whole because everyone's thinking in the
- 19:49mindset like how do I value, how do I leverage my natural gifts?
- 19:52How do I get rewarded fairly? If everyone's doing that, I think us
- 19:56as humans will create some cool things. So that's My second company is dot
- 20:02Inc. That's the first ever AI power and matchmaking service, and our goal
- 20:07is to spread as much love as possible. So we view the dating market
- 20:10is kind of skewed. So in dating right now, most people meet through
- 20:15apps or online. Very few people meet face to face. So the big
- 20:18problem with that is the top five percent of users they get access to everyone
- 20:25on They get everyone access to everyone on the app, creating a skewed marketplace,
- 20:29which is which is not good. The second issue is it's physical base.
- 20:33Let's be real. Tender is hot or not. Dating apps are hot
- 20:36or not. You don't really get to know Persson. You're like, do
- 20:37I like their face? Yes or no? Swipe left, swipe bread.
- 20:41The third issue is the incentive structure of the dating app. So Tinder war
- 20:45to match a happy couple. What happens Tinder then loses a paying customer.
- 20:49Tender shareholders don't like that. They like making money. And I think actually
- 20:55tenders now bought by golden sacks. So goldmen sacks really likes making money.
- 20:57They like losing money their golden sack, so that this results in something called
- 21:03churn marketing, which is they make their money by keeping someone on the Ferris
- 21:06reel. Soff you hear of someone saying I deleted the app. I down
- 21:08the app, I delete the app. I down on the app. That's
- 21:11the reason why. So what danting does is we auto generate profiles for you
- 21:17based on your digital footprint and create matches based on users digital footprint. So
- 21:22I could get three matches. Ashley Kimberly Jane, It's like, tell me
- 21:26more about Jane. It's like, oh, Jane is the youngest. You're
- 21:29the oldest of coordinary facebooks. That usually works based on our pattern recondition software.
- 21:33Oh we both linked your LinkedIn. You both went to four university and
- 21:37study business. Great, you should match there. Oh you both linked your
- 21:40instagrams. Oh you both go to national parks. That's cool. That's another
- 21:42matching point. Oh you both linked your Spotify. Did you know that this
- 21:47one specific artist you both followed religiously as a concert coming up in a month?
- 21:52Would you like me to suggest the day with Jane? From there?
- 21:55Keepe it suggested the date with Jane. Jane sees my profile, she sees
- 21:59since I look my social media, she sees my past post, so she
- 22:02gets a better understanding of I who I am. So she feels more comfortable.
- 22:04Since you links your social media, she'll be able to see. Okay,
- 22:07well we have like twenty mutual friends in common. That's a good sign.
- 22:11Jane clicks up. Except we go on the date, we fall in
- 22:15love, we get married, all that cool jazz, and then from there
- 22:18it can act as a relationship. Butler, so like, Okay, you
- 22:22guys have two kids, you have been on date in six months. It's
- 22:25time to get out of the house. We recommend this babysitting service, and
- 22:29the place you got your third date is having a half off sale of ice
- 22:30cream. We suggest here, or can you something like oh, just a
- 22:33reminder Jane's Birthday's coming up. She just out of this item. I guess
- 22:38that's a bracelet to her pinches board. It might make a good gift.
- 22:42So yeah, like tinders incentive is just keep you on the app, our
- 22:48incentive is to get you on that date as soon as possible, because I
- 22:52think real connections happen in person, not like amlessy texting or just chatting via
- 22:56anapp. Yeah, I to be honest with you, I'd never used a
- 23:04dating app, so it's like this you just built. It's like, oh,
- 23:12hey, back when I was actually dating, there was like the bar
- 23:15scene in the meat market and all that kind of stuff, you know.
- 23:19So yeah, more and more people are going online for dating and the reason
- 23:26for that, and I predict that to increase. And the reason more people
- 23:30are going online is because it adds another buffer for rejection. Like I personally,
- 23:33I like to approach goes in person. I've always better looked that way
- 23:37too, so it makes sense. But if you're swiping right on the left
- 23:41like if you go approach a girl and she says no, that's much more
- 23:44challenging than sitting behind a screen, not going out and not getting ready,
- 23:47just aimlessly swiping. So more people are taking the easy route out, must
- 23:51have one's on them, So it's like a calm bounding effect. Yeah,
- 23:53well, it sounds like the app solves solves some of the the the social
- 24:03problems. It is, the social awkwardness and everything, because even like it's
- 24:08like, oh, I'll buy that that girl over there drink. Back in
- 24:14my day, it's like you still had to find a way to strike a
- 24:18conversation and to find what it is that they were actually into and liked and
- 24:26everything, and where your commonalities were. So I see see a lot of
- 24:30of like good stuff where your your app is helping helping each other find those
- 24:37commonalities so they have things to talk about, things to do together and everything.
- 24:41Right, So that that works pretty cool. But again I don't want
- 24:49to get to go too far down a rabbit hole. But what what about
- 24:56some of the other social implications that you know, when we have the cyberbullying
- 25:02and things like that, is there is there some safeties to that where you
- 25:07can where you can protect yourselves from that. Yeah, so honestly, and
- 25:11I love going down to rabbitals, so that's always a fun time. In
- 25:15terms of cyberbrowlling, it's commonplace on the app, like it's like on Instagram,
- 25:19like the social media. Cyberbrowling is a thing on the apps people often.
- 25:25So what happens on normal dating apps is the top of users get access
- 25:27to all the users, creating a situational abundance, which sun can lead to
- 25:30people ghosting, treating people, really sending inappropriate messages. So way around that
- 25:36is we've developed a Karma system. So it's based on Reddit. So on
- 25:40dating, you have Karma points. If you act polightly, you you go
- 25:44on dates, people like hanging out that you're just overall pleasant person, you
- 25:48can hire Karma points and the higher Karma points will match with match you with
- 25:51other Karma users. If you ghost, if you're rude, you send up
- 25:55inappropriate pictures, you just curse, you do you just do unsafe behavior on
- 25:59the app, you'll get ding common points and you obviously match up people around
- 26:03your level. So we've created a sent instructure where good behavior is good behavior
- 26:07is like it's encouraged. In terms of app banning. That's not something we
- 26:14want to do. We don't want to run an algorithm just to pay.
- 26:17So the cool thing about our dating app is it also helps with bot prediction
- 26:21bots online. So if you're a mail on a dating app, more often
- 26:23than not, you're probably talking to a chatbot trying to get you. You're
- 26:27talking a fake profile because it's easy for a script to just run up like
- 26:32create AI based images, one profile, one bio, spin up one hundred
- 26:37profiles and just starting to chat to start chatting to people at scale and eventually
- 26:41like sometime telling all events or something like that. So that's a problem in
- 26:44the dating app market. But with us, since you create you, since
- 26:47you link multiple multiple social media accounts, there's more proof of a person.
- 26:52So it's like, yes, someone may have creat a fake YouTube, of
- 26:56fake Spotify, fake things are going to fake linked in to face, fake
- 26:59face book, but the level of acting for that is just much higher than
- 27:02just creating a fake like in their profile. So and that's since we protect
- 27:06the users. We protect users time because I think the time is the most
- 27:10important aspect, Like think about like you're a dude, you're spending half the
- 27:14time talking to bots. You feel like there's a waste of time. You
- 27:15actually do match with the real life person, but at that point you're kind
- 27:18of over it, and that the time also goes into our matchmaking system because
- 27:22like on your normodania app, you match with someone more often not not you
- 27:26have nothing in common, becomes a waste of time. But with us,
- 27:30we put our users in the position to succeed. So like you're match with
- 27:33someone, let's say in our Spotify example. In our Spotify example, it
- 27:37suggested the date for us because it's like, okay, both falls artists,
- 27:41we suggest the state. But let's say it doesn't stut us that, but
- 27:44it's still matches because of that, So I can meet this person and then
- 27:47from there that could come organically, fostering organic connection. And the cool thing
- 27:52is our app is designed to get you on that date, so we had
- 27:56the longer you are on app, the more likely already get a match.
- 27:59So pathetically, everyone's into different things. Like for me, let's say it
- 28:02gives me four people, they're all the same. To me, I say
- 28:04no past, past, past past, but algorithm will pick that up like,
- 28:08okay, this person doesn't really the same as simp. Let me try
- 28:11a different type of person I say yes to that. It tweaks, So
- 28:14the longer alem of the app, the better matches I should get. And
- 28:17this works at scale too, so me as an individual's long but they app
- 28:19the more BATH learns. But imagine that times one hundred, but now one
- 28:22hundred people are on the app. It's learning what works for most because AI
- 28:26at its core is really good at pattern recognition software at scale. So yeah,
- 28:30like imagine like one person versus one hundred, vers of a thousand versus
- 28:33a million. Yeah, well it's only is the eventual goal is to get
- 28:42to two people together so they can have fun, build a relationship, build
- 28:47life, that sort of thing, right, you know now, And that's
- 28:51how that's our financial incentive too, So we've aligned financially. We're getting the
- 28:56people together. Our app is free, is like to their most apps.
- 29:00They charges like if you actually want to get seen at the kind of pace
- 29:03of switch, otherwise you're thrown on the block filter. So they have to
- 29:04pay for apps. So their goal is to keep you on the app.
- 29:07Dating will make its revenue, So we're partnering with companies where people can schedule
- 29:11the date within the app, they can pay for the date within the app,
- 29:15it throws on their calendar, so they go on that date. That's
- 29:18how we are on a revenue. So if someone schedules a date, they
- 29:19lock our service. Then from there we would take a small portion of the
- 29:23date schedule. So it's a commission base structure. So if we don't set
- 29:26dates, we don't make money, which I think is a much better better
- 29:32alignment, and that's how we would make money in the future too. It's
- 29:33like, so our goals by if you're scheduling through our app, you obviously
- 29:37like the app, you're like the dates for suggesting, so then our goal
- 29:40is to create that match. Because if a person creates their match, they
- 29:42schedule all their dates. Like imagine you and your wife, you schedule all
- 29:45your dates through dating because it's con mean, it's just the perfect date every
- 29:48time. You don't have to do anything. So if you're scheduling all your
- 29:52dates through dating, we can earn more revenue that way, and we're planning
- 29:56to share our revenue with our community as like a form ambassaard gifts and all
- 29:59that suf Well, it sounds like you're appstra not just simply you're you're creating
- 30:08a community through the app also, and where people are gaining commerce and things
- 30:14like that. You know. Oh no, so it's gonna be I think
- 30:18it's gonna be a community staffs where brands can I probably sell them. But
- 30:21the cool thing is dating is just the first part. So our technology is
- 30:25a core. It helps people create authentic connections with other people. Dating was
- 30:30just easy because they I mean, I would say, like, I think
- 30:33this sound is like three hundred million people are on dating apps, less than
- 30:37half the percent of people are happy. Unless than half percent of people report
- 30:40they're happy. We both know that number is higher. So it's a very
- 30:41easy sell for me. It's like, hey, are you tired of dating
- 30:44apps? This is what they're doing. You want to try the solution?
- 30:47Sure, they try it, because if you're on a dating app, you're
- 30:49on multiple so it's an easy sell that way. But if we have the
- 30:52prior to connect people so it doesn't have to stop, it can stop.
- 30:56It doesn't have to stop at dating, so it can be like, hey,
- 30:59dating, find me five guys in my local area who are into more
- 31:03Thai, who are in spirituality, who like to try to soccle place,
- 31:06and then they could match communities that way, we're building it out to where
- 31:10it's like you can tap your phone, like I could tap my phone.
- 31:14You could tap your phone and then it could tell us what we have in
- 31:15common, but we don't have in comment. Maybe it's just to hang out
- 31:18for us too, dudes. So again, it's about it's about building that
- 31:22connection between people because I think and the more social and the more digital we
- 31:26get less connection. Let's connect we are to everyone else. But yeah,
- 31:32but we we had to change them. Yeah, going to something that happened
- 31:38a few days ago, I don't know if it affected you, It affected
- 31:42my wife, it didn't affect me. Where Meta had that server crash and
- 31:51large amounts of people on Facebook, in Instagram and threads, their accounts wind
- 31:59they actions like oh they're trying to post, and it's like the whole world
- 32:02was like coming to a crash. Because it sounds like you're trying to create
- 32:07a community where where there isn't going to be a big crash because people are
- 32:14only centered on their phone. It sounds like you're trying to create a community
- 32:19where this phone goes back to being a tool so that I can talk to
- 32:23you and we get together and do cool stuff. Late after we put the
- 32:29phone aside. Yeah, no, you're right, and this sounds for my
- 32:31personal Danny ethos. So I've always been good at dating the since I don't
- 32:35spend too much time on the phone. I use the phone as simply a
- 32:38tool to schedule date. So I don't really like want to talk. We
- 32:40can meet in person, but I don't need to go back and forth.
- 32:44So that's kind of I guess not. Do you imagine that it's kind of
- 32:45spilled in a day. It's like, yeah, like Danny is cool and
- 32:47all like, but we try to cut out the I guess that the so
- 32:52like we are goal is to facilitate the match and get them in real life
- 32:57in person. So the solves two issues. And this might be kind of
- 32:59offensive, but I'll attack from both dangos. So there's an issue. Guys.
- 33:02Guys have issues with dating. Girls have issues with dating. The issues
- 33:06that girls have with dating is they choose poorly. They choose the bad boy,
- 33:09or they choose the person who don't have the best interest to herd and
- 33:12then it is what it is. The issue with the guys is most guys
- 33:15have trouble communicating with females. And if I have girlfriends who showed me their
- 33:19phone, they show me the way the guys talk. It is just not
- 33:22good. So from there we help facilitate the match and we help the conversation
- 33:25go until the point of date. So like until so until you date.
- 33:30The only option you have for communication is you can have a FaceTime call or
- 33:35you can already be able to have a VR date, but we don't.
- 33:37We want to minimize the mindless back and forth and just like texting because it's
- 33:42like, Okay, this person's match. We want you to find out with
- 33:44their match as quickly as possible because if you don't, that's an opportunity cost
- 33:47for you to find the right person, which only happens on offline. Let's
- 33:55see cool. So what is with all of your projects is shopics in the
- 34:05AI dating app and everything. What is your ultimate goal for our world and
- 34:10for the people that work with you? Yeah, So I think everyone has
- 34:15two goals. I think everyone has an inner purpose and an outer purpose.
- 34:19So I think everyone's inner purpose is the same, and that's to raise your
- 34:22own level of consciousness. So I think of everything in terms of energy,
- 34:25frequent vibration. So when you're saying you're sad, you're saying you're happy when
- 34:29you're saying and loving, when you're saying you're joyous, you're saying, I'm
- 34:31vibrating a specific frequency. And just like a radio station, if you tune
- 34:36into a specific radio frequency, you get that radio station. So if you're
- 34:39tuning in to this vibration of sadness, you attract sad people. If you're
- 34:43tuning in to a vibration of joy, you check joy as people. So
- 34:46my overall goal is to raise my own level of consciousness as high as it
- 34:50can go. What this inevitbly does is it raises those level of consciousness of
- 34:53those around me. So it creates a positive efforts biro, which is why
- 34:58I love going on podcasts. So let's say some of Lesa's podcast they leave
- 35:00it a little better they go out in the world because they've raisen a little
- 35:05bit. It raises those around them and those around them, creating a positive
- 35:08upward spiral. The outer purpose is how do I manifest my get or how
- 35:14did I leverage my personal gifts into this inner to serve my inner purpose and
- 35:17serve other people. So this just so happened to manifest in both Web three
- 35:22E commerce because it's really interested in Web three and AI power matchmaking because I'm
- 35:25really interested dating matchmaking. So it worked out well. The shop overall goal
- 35:30is to have eighty percent of all NFTs these shop x E n F T
- 35:35s, and that's doable with our solution. The overall goal for dating or
- 35:38dotating is to match over a billion happy couples, and again that's also doable
- 35:43because it's very it's a very scalable solution. People every when I talked to
- 35:46loves lay app, so I think both those goals will be accomplished. Yeah,
- 35:50you know what, Eric, We're starting to run out of time.
- 35:54This is cool because we we we've really been chatting up a lot of of
- 36:00what you do one last question and then and then the best ways to get
- 36:07ahold of you? What? What is it the or should I say,
- 36:16if you could describe uh in a few sentences the ultimate world you're trying to
- 36:23create for our society with your projects? What what does that look like?
- 36:31So for in terms of love three, let's separate those. Through the interests
- 36:35of love three, I want to we want to create a more freer,
- 36:37more a freer, more equal society, I meaning like and you can join
- 36:40the ecosystem and you can figure product and one can try something, and there's
- 36:44not just a group of people just saphoning off money and making everything harder for
- 36:47other people. Were dotting. We want to create a more connected world.
- 36:52So right now we live in a very disconnected world. People on their phones.
- 36:54Yes, to connect to more people. Yes, the degrees of separation
- 36:59between everyone is less. But on the flip side, were we have less
- 37:02connections. We have less friends, they have less family. People are overall
- 37:05less happy, and that is because of the lack of actual relationships. So
- 37:09that's something we're trying to help. There. Cool, awesome, best way
- 37:15to get a hold of you. Yeah, So if you're interested in shop
- 37:20x web three e commerce, the best place to do that would be s
- 37:22h O p X dot co O. If you're interested in AI power matchmaking,
- 37:27it be d A T A I N G dot io. But overall,
- 37:30I'm dude, I'm really just trying to be as helpful as possible.
- 37:34My Instagram will be the best place to do that. So E R I
- 37:37C D M C H U g H feel free to hit me any hit
- 37:40me up anytime, and O great cool. We'll put most of those things
- 37:45in the show notes for everybody to to find later on, and thank you
- 37:51for listening to everybody, And thank you Eric. It sounds like you're actually
- 37:55using technology for the good of the people, and that's an amazing thing.
- 38:01No. I likewise too, so thank you for astening me. You're you're
- 38:05sharing good news and good people through your podcast. I was grateful, I've
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