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  Speaker 2: in the Mornings back in studio where yesterday we were
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  Speaker 2: down at Jimmy's on First had a great morning. Ashley
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  Speaker 2: spent her time out on the streets of Seattle yesterday
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  Speaker 2: as part of our ongoing play by play coverage of
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  Speaker 2: the parade that drew an estimation of over a million
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  Speaker 2: people and a million people who were not only in
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  Speaker 2: the perfect mood for a parade, but on their best behavior.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you something that is impressive. Nice
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  Speaker 2: work Seattle, Nice work Seahawks Fans, nice work Twelves, Nice
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  Speaker 2: work everybody out there, because man, I mean we're to
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  Speaker 2: the point now where if you put twelve people in
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  Speaker 2: the same room, you're probably gonna have a brawl.
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  Speaker 1: And for a million.
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  Speaker 2: People to show up on the streets and to be
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  Speaker 2: in the right mood for the occasion, I think the
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  Speaker 2: weather helped certainly. But man, that thing seemed to go
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  Speaker 2: off without a hitch. And you bring a million people
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  Speaker 2: together and try to execute anything without a hitch, that
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  Speaker 2: that feels impossible to me in the year twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 2: But brob oh, I mean that was sensational yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Well done everybody.
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  Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure it had to do with like Ashley
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  Speaker 5: her like mom vibes. Did you tell the twelves that
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  Speaker 5: don't make me pull this car over or something?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 7: And then when they were like, when's it gonna get here?
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  Speaker 7: I was like, not now, damn it right right.
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  Speaker 5: See That's why I figured I figured it was a
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  Speaker 5: mom vibe thing somewhere around there, because they did they
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  Speaker 5: the twelves acted like very responsible, very respectful young children.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't mean that in a bad way.
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  Speaker 5: I mean just they handled themselves appropriately. I think there
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  Speaker 5: was a one time where there was I think a
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  Speaker 5: group of fans wanted to kind of follow the caravan
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  Speaker 5: down the road, and so they kind of just walked
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  Speaker 5: in the streets and the cops like, no, we gotta
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  Speaker 5: you gotta stay in behind the bear. But yeah, it
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  Speaker 5: was still all happy and fun, and everybody was talking
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  Speaker 5: to the cops and and you know, laughing and smiling
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  Speaker 5: and still doing the Seahawk chants, and it seemed like
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  Speaker 5: an unbelievable day.
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  Speaker 1: The weather couldn't have cooperated anymore.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, not very often you're gonna get a beautiful day
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  Speaker 5: like that this time of year.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 5: It was a football god smiling down on Seattle, for sure,
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  Speaker 5: and Seattle reciprocated.
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  Speaker 1: Weather was perfect.
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  Speaker 2: Our coverage was outstanding. That included Ashley. That was great,
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  Speaker 2: nice work done by all. I can say that because
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't involved after ten o'clock just outstanding. And then
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  Speaker 2: even the television coverage which I caught a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of as well. I mean, all the the stations were after.
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  Speaker 2: I got to give credit to Joyce Taylor. Boy was
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  Speaker 2: she happy at King five about covering that. And then
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  Speaker 2: my guy Steve so Lee's over there at Como hosting things.
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  Speaker 2: He was terrific yesterday. And then our people were terrific yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Did you have a fun doing it?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it was incredible to see.
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  Speaker 7: So I got up there at like ten, and we
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  Speaker 7: knew the parade wasn't going to be to us until
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  Speaker 7: probably twelve forty five, twelve thirty at the earliest. There
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  Speaker 7: were some little snafoo, some little delays that they ended
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  Speaker 7: up I think by us about one and just to
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  Speaker 7: watch it fill in from where it was when I
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  Speaker 7: got there, I was walking up thinking I actually could
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  Speaker 7: have even driven up closer to hear and parked, and
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  Speaker 7: then we would have had not had to walk all
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  Speaker 7: the way back to the station after and that, and
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  Speaker 7: because it was just there wasn't a lot of people
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  Speaker 7: walking up.
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  Speaker 6: Well, then as you got up closer, all of a
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  Speaker 6: sudden there was some more people.
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  Speaker 7: And then as I found my spot, I had this
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  Speaker 7: it was this like little elevated spot so I could
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  Speaker 7: see over the three rows of people in front of
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  Speaker 7: me to the street.
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  Speaker 6: I was like, Okay, this is the spot we're going to.
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  Speaker 7: Go with, and all of a sudden, I an hour
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  Speaker 7: later it was a sea of people. Three yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 7: I couldn't see the street. By the time the parade came,
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  Speaker 7: I couldn't see any of the players that were walking
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  Speaker 7: on the street by the time the parade came, so
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  Speaker 7: you could only see the buses and the people on
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  Speaker 7: the and in the cars. There was a bunch of
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  Speaker 7: players that were walking around signing autographs, I mean taking
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  Speaker 7: swigs of people's tequila.
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  Speaker 6: Not right in front of me, but huh.
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  Speaker 7: I saw that that was good and just having the
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  Speaker 7: best time, and it was really cool to see. There
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  Speaker 7: were kids playing football while we were waiting for the parade.
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  Speaker 6: There was a lot of kids there, a lot of kids.
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  Speaker 7: And they extend they extended the parade route too, because
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  Speaker 7: there were so many people.
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  Speaker 6: So I was passed Fourth and either I was at
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  Speaker 6: Fourth and Denny.
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  Speaker 2: And the players had no problem with it, I mean
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  Speaker 2: like making it longer. I mean they looked like they
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  Speaker 2: were having the times of their lives up there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: So they ended up going up to Climate Pledgerina, which
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  Speaker 7: is where they had their staging area to get off
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  Speaker 7: and get on the buses, and the parade route went
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  Speaker 7: all the way to Second where it sent them up
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  Speaker 7: the street to There was people on the roof at
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  Speaker 7: seven to eleven, I mean people in the trees, people
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  Speaker 7: in the street, lights.
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  Speaker 6: It was. It was awesome.
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  Speaker 2: It was incredible. I mean, I've never I've never seen
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  Speaker 2: anything like that. I mean, you can only catch so
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  Speaker 2: much on the street, and like I said, I kind
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  Speaker 2: of ducked out after catching a little bit of it,
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  Speaker 2: and then I watched I was got home in time
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  Speaker 2: to watch some of the coverage. Pretty much ruined my nap,
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  Speaker 2: but got home to watch some of the coverage, and
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  Speaker 2: from the coverage standpoint, you just got to see all
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  Speaker 2: the little nooks and crannies and corners and just how many.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't just a sea. It was seas.
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  Speaker 1: It was like the Great Lakes.
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  Speaker 6: It was from the building to into the street, into
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  Speaker 6: the street, and.
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  Speaker 2: For everybody to be on the same page and sort
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  Speaker 2: of in the same wonderful mood. And it didn't feel
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  Speaker 2: like there was a I know there probably were, but
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  Speaker 2: it didn't feel like there was a single turd in
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  Speaker 2: the punch bowl throughout the course of the day.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't have come away more impressed, because anytime you
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  Speaker 2: gather that many people in one location, especially in the
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  Speaker 2: year twenty twenty six, I worry.
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  Speaker 1: A little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I worry a little bit about the outcome, but I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if it could have gone better. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: to the point that the players on the route started
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  Speaker 2: getting off the trucks.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. During for us, I couldn't
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  Speaker 7: see half of them. They were walking on the street,
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  Speaker 7: just hanging out with people.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean if and they were.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure they were advised not to do
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  Speaker 2: they were, and yet they had such a good feeling
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  Speaker 2: about it that Sam Darnold's down there like shaking hands,
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  Speaker 2: kissing babies, signing autographs. JSN was treated like a you know,
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  Speaker 2: a you know, a boy band member over on the sidelines,
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  Speaker 2: and he had this big smile on his face as
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  Speaker 2: young girls were screaming and trying to clutch at his jacket.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it was I mean, DeMarcus Lawrence walking around
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  Speaker 2: bare chested for a couple miles out there. They could
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  Speaker 2: obviously tell Yeah, I know what our orders were, and
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  Speaker 2: I know it's probably advised that we stay in our trucks,
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  Speaker 2: but these people are not harmful. These people love us,
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  Speaker 2: and I want to be a part of it.
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  Speaker 1: It was just spectacular, great stuff.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know for sure, if you can get it
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  Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, the security people were telling them that
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  Speaker 5: they didn't want him to get off the buses, and
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  Speaker 5: yet they're like, we're going to We're going to anywhere.
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  Speaker 5: We're gonna be out there in high five. Yeah, there
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  Speaker 5: was a lot of love going back and forth. If
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  Speaker 5: there ever is a time where a million people can
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  Speaker 5: get together and not have a bunch of issues, it
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  Speaker 5: would have been a day like yesterday. And yet it
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  Speaker 5: doesn't always happen. I think typically, and when you get
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  Speaker 5: a large crowd of people, you're gonna have one turn
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  Speaker 5: in the punch bowl somewhere. It didn't seem like there
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  Speaker 5: was I didn't hear about anything. Most certainly didn't hear
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  Speaker 5: about anything to any of the players. They went out
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  Speaker 5: there and had a ball with the fans. I did
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  Speaker 5: see that one. I think that guy opened some special
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  Speaker 5: bottle of tequila. You talking about, like the long.
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  Speaker 7: Red one Year of the Horse, Don Julio.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, nineteen forty two or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like and then he ends up like wanting
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  Speaker 5: to share one of the Seahawks players like no, no,
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  Speaker 5: it's tequila. And then Nuosu I think was one, came
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  Speaker 5: over and took a big old poll off it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I resemble that that. I even the alcohol part
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  Speaker 1: of it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that was a big part of our show yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: kind of joking about the alcohol intake that takes place.
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  Speaker 2: But there weren't any images, I mean since that Tampa
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  Speaker 2: Bay thing and I realized that it looked like a
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  Speaker 2: lot of fun. But that sort of unlocked something with
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  Speaker 2: these parades where professional athletes thought it was just perfectly
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  Speaker 2: okay to be seen on television just being drunk and
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  Speaker 2: foolish and okay, no major incidents have occurred because of this,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't know if anybody.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if we need to see.
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  Speaker 2: Linebackers passed out in the street that can't walk another
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  Speaker 2: step because they over indulged. And they were indulging and
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  Speaker 2: certainly having a good time, there's no question about it.
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  Speaker 2: Red Solo Cup John Schneider set the tone for that
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  Speaker 2: at the stadium, But I mean I didn't see a
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  Speaker 2: lot of that. I didn't see a lot of fans
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  Speaker 2: abusing it. I mean there were scenes, there were scenes
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  Speaker 2: in Kansas City a couple of years ago where it
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  Speaker 2: was like I'm kind of embarrassed for humanity right now,
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  Speaker 2: like this is what are we doing out here and.
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  Speaker 1: There was none of that.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't get that, and maybe that was just the
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  Speaker 2: creative way that all the stations edited their film together,
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  Speaker 2: but it just felt like the perfect balance between celebration, joy,
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  Speaker 2: happiness and respect.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it just felt like that yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: And I just say good on you, Seattle, because I
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  Speaker 2: think that was a perfect, perfect parade.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: My favorite comment after the parade was from Rashid Shaheed Rare.
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  Speaker 7: He said, parade won Rashid zero. So I think he
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  Speaker 7: was like, I maybe drink a little bit too much, but.
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  Speaker 6: I had the time. Yeah exactly, but I.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't get to the point where they had to be
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  Speaker 2: carried off on a stretcher.
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  Speaker 7: No, And they were all having a great time. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: all the families there were. I loved it to start
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  Speaker 7: the parade or like right when you know, all the police,
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  Speaker 7: because that's how the front of the parade route starts.
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  Speaker 7: You've got an SPD officer and a truck starting the
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  Speaker 7: Seahawks chant as he's driving down the route.
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  Speaker 1: It means a lot of that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I've never heard.
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  Speaker 7: That chance so many times in my life, but it
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  Speaker 7: was cool to have him like on his loud speaker
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  Speaker 7: doing it because it's just echoing through the streets and
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  Speaker 7: I don't know, it was just the whole thing.
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  Speaker 6: Mike McDonald.
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  Speaker 7: I snapped a picture of him in his jeep and
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  Speaker 7: he's holding the NFC Championship trophy, you know, and he
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  Speaker 7: was looking at the sea of people and you could
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  Speaker 7: tell he was just really taking it all in. And
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  Speaker 7: he kept tapping his heart yeah, and then like blowing
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  Speaker 7: kisses to the crowd.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: And then he'd tap his heart again and he the
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  Speaker 7: look on his face was just like, I can't believe
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  Speaker 7: this is happening right now.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how you could believe it. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how you could.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, even if especially first time going through it,
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  Speaker 2: even if you've seen it on television, even if somebody
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  Speaker 2: told you, hey, Mike, a million people might show up
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  Speaker 2: from me, yeah, I mean, until you see it, until
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  Speaker 2: you're a part of it, until you're the marquee attraction,
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  Speaker 2: and you're sitting up there on high on those jeeps
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  Speaker 2: and you're just looking out.
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  Speaker 1: You go down one block.
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  Speaker 2: And it's a sea of people and you're like, wow,
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  Speaker 2: that was great. And then also, oh there's another sea
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  Speaker 2: of people. Oh there's another block of people. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how you could prepare yourself for that. There was
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  Speaker 2: this look of like I can't believe what I'm seeing
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  Speaker 2: from all the players. And to the point, as we've
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  Speaker 2: as we've illustrated a couple of times where they're like,
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  Speaker 2: I got to get out there and thank these people
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  Speaker 2: and not from up here. I got to get down
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  Speaker 2: there and thank these people for making this happen, because
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  Speaker 2: this is special.
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  Speaker 5: I think everybody, everybody, anybody's played sports and you know
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  Speaker 5: we grew up in their backyard or on the playground,
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  Speaker 5: and you kind of you did those things, you know,
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  Speaker 5: bottom of the ninth, down by three bases, loaded, two outs, full.
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  Speaker 1: Count, right, you do that. Everybody did that. I never
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  Speaker 1: practiced a parade. No.
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  Speaker 5: Well, that's what I'm saying is you end up I
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  Speaker 5: think you end up going through all of these dream scenarios, right,
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  Speaker 5: but one of the dreams that is further closer to you,
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  Speaker 5: more achievable, is actually getting to the highest level. Right,
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  Speaker 5: So getting to the NFL, that's a dream come true.
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  Speaker 5: And then like you know, getting a sack or you know,
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  Speaker 5: a game when he touchdown on Monday Night football or
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  Speaker 5: making a big play in the in the playoffs, or
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  Speaker 5: playing in a super Bowl, or winning the Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 5: and then obviously things like the parade that come after
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  Speaker 5: something like that. Those are all like dreams inside of
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  Speaker 5: dreams Like those are ones where you're in the middle
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  Speaker 5: of a great dream and all of a sudden something
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  Speaker 5: bad happens and it doesn't end up turning out that way.
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  Speaker 5: This is one where it's like multiple dreams for multiple
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  Speaker 5: individual players. Every one of those individual players had to
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  Speaker 5: be having a moment of well, this is better than
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  Speaker 5: I even thought it could possibly be.
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  Speaker 1: I agree.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, like I was pretty sure I'm living my dream,
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  Speaker 5: making really good money playing the game, and now this
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  Speaker 5: season was playing with a bunch of my homies that
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  Speaker 5: all we all get along, we'll roll in the same direction.
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  Speaker 5: We got this young, awesome coach and a great organization
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  Speaker 5: in front office, Like all of these dreams are coming true.
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  Speaker 5: And then to have like a celebration that is basically
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  Speaker 5: just to go out for a day and roll through
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  Speaker 5: the city with the entire city.
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  Speaker 1: Coming down and cheering. Yon.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it's just one of those you can't really imagine.
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  Speaker 5: Those those dreams are things that you don't even have
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  Speaker 5: dreams about you just all of a sudden find yourself
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  Speaker 5: in it, and you're like, well, this is this is
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  Speaker 5: a crazy little cherry on top.
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  Speaker 2: As you might expect, I had a pretty vivid imagination
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  Speaker 2: as a There were times that I mean happened almost
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  Speaker 2: every year for part of my youth, where you know,
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  Speaker 2: my brother and I would go out there and we
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  Speaker 2: would play the All Star Game with whiffle ball and
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  Speaker 2: bat and he'd be the American leaguer and I'd be
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  Speaker 2: the National League vice versa, and we would every single
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  Speaker 2: player on the roster and we would, you know, we
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: would do their batting stance, and we'd do the whole
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: damn game. We'd play the whole damn game. And then
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: we're like, well, we still want to have more fun.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: So then we recreated a loser's All Star game. We
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: put the we were an All Star game of what
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: we thought were the worst players in Major League Baseball,
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: and so then.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: We would have that game.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: And then when he wasn't there, I maybe maybe this
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: is true, maybe it's not. I'll just say that maybe
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: my mom looked out the window and I was even
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: playing out to tip the cap ceremony.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Like each player why might maybe I did that.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Maybe I didn't as a kid tipping my cap to
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: the crowd, like the introductions of all the players that
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: maybe maybe I did that. Maybe I had a lot
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: of helmets from a lot of different teams.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: And maybe I did that. Maybe I didn't.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: But never, at any point did Mom look out the
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: window and see her sons pretending that they were on
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: a parade route.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: No.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, being pulled by our sisters.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Surprised.
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: I'm surprised your mind came up short of that, even
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: although I don't know, I don't know throwing candy.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: To our dogs. Yeah, yeah, thanks for coming out. I
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: a chant signing autographs for the mailman.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for.
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: Coming out, being great, he drops off the.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Mail Here you go, nice, Thanks for coming out. Yeah,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: I appreciate all your support. That would be great.
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's there's just I mean there's Yesterday did feel
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: like it was the culmination of a lot of hard work.
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: And yet obviously no work goes into for the players
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: and the organization people that are just getting to celebrate,
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: No work goes into yesterday. It was just a all right,
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: let's celebrate this whole thing. Let's let's kind of get
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: together and and have one final send off before the
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: offseason and just kind of get to look at and
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: you saw a lot of the guys drinking it in
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: and and you know, I don't mean booze wise, but
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: drinking in the atmosphere. Just you know, hopefully Abe Lucas
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: is fine after bunking his head on the stop like that.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: I'm so glad that that stopped, like gave yeah, Like
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: imagine if that thing was just a rigid one yea yeah, stationary,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: like we might have lost our right tackles.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was scary.
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well he's those double decker buses are up so
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: high and he was standing up tall and you're sitting there.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah you're so big. Yeah, glad he's big. But yeah,
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: he's just standing there and all of a sudden, think
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: just drove through and one of the lights and traffic. Yeah,
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: doinked his head and he's fine.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure I might have left. Yeah.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he spent the he spent two hours like
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: promoting Coug's football. He was a walking or actually a
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: writing advertisement for Coug's football yesterday.
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Cooper Cup was in a Mariner's jersey.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: That was great. That was great. How do you like them? Apples?
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Is a little sa because.
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: Leonard Williams with his heavyweight belt just he was showing
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: that thing off the whole time.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, great stuff.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what's on tap of the
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: show today.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: What's on what's on? All right?
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of been a week of celebration
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: and also a week of good boy for us. Final
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: episodes of certain things, final conversations of the year with
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: some of our experts and insiders, and we're going to
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: do a couple more of those today. Mike Sander will
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: join us at nine thirty today our NFL Insider for
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: the final official time of the football season, and then
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: at eight o'clock twelfth Man Roundtable, our final one. So
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: we'll recap the season with our experts Hugh Millen and
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell today from eight to nine. And if you've
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: been listening to that all season long, that's obviously a
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: can't miss episode coming your way today at eight o'clock.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: The NFL offseason is underway. Of course, every other major
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: NFL city has already started to think about the off season.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Pieces we've kind of gotten it started here in Seattle
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: as well, but Yeah, it's here now no time. There's
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: never an off day in the National Football League all
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: year along, and so people are already shifting their thoughts
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: rapidly to the off season and what the Seahawks need.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: To do to win it again.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: The Pajama Party, by the way, known as the NFL Combine,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: is in less than two weeks. NFL free agency is
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: in less than a month. Mariner spring training is already underway.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's been so chaotic here covering football. That's
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, usually we already have a little bit of
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: that information about who looks good and who doesn't look good.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: But I'm kind of glad that we don't. I kind
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: of want us to break that news next week. So
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Bucky and I are going to be down there as
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: early as Sunday, and then we'll do our show from
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: spring training on Monday. Yeah, it's time for spring training coverage,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: so we hand the baton from one sport to the
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: next starting on Monday. Can't wait, and I really have
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: not heard much at all of anything coming out of
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: spring training, so we'll break all the news for you
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: next week. NBA All Star Weekend is this weekend college
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: basketball You doub lost that that's a rough loss against
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Penn State last night by a final score of sixty
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: three to sixty And of course the Winter Olympics in
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Milan they continue as well. As a matter of fact,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: with all this football talk, and we got a lot
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: more today and a lot more tomorrow, Yet we do
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: need to start entering the rest of the sports world,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: or re entering the rest of the sports world. Earlier
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: this week, we did a segment called so What's going
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: on with other Sports? Well today and as a matter
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: of fact, we're gonna do it next, So What's going
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: on with Other Sports? Part two? So that's your coming
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: your way next here on Chuck and Buck Sports Radio
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: ninety three point three KJRFM.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it a book.
• 21:43
  Speaker 8: I'm probably the last person they should have gate it.
• 21:45
  Speaker 8: Mike too, but we've been a turn up.
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: Man.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: First off, I.
• 21:50
  Speaker 8: Want to say shout out to Jody Allen, Shout out
• 21:53
  Speaker 8: to John Snyder for making this all possible. Man, shout
• 21:56
  Speaker 8: out to coach Mike MacDonald for helping us get to
• 21:58
  Speaker 8: this point. But also shout.
• 22:01
  Speaker 9: Out to these badass mothers playing this game the right way. Hey,
• 22:11
  Speaker 9: not only do we have the best defense in the world.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: We got the best team in the world.
• 22:16
  Speaker 8: And quite frankly, if you got anything to say with
• 22:19
  Speaker 8: my quarterback, you got anything to say with my defense,
• 22:24
  Speaker 8: you got anything to say for my hold on, and
• 22:27
  Speaker 8: you got anything to say by the city of Seattle,
• 22:31
  Speaker 8: I got two words for you.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Party mouth of the pottiest of mouths.
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the best of these.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Good morning, seven o'clock hour, checking Buck Sports Radio ninety
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: three point three KJRFM here on this Thursday.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, feeling like champion still. I know it's Thursday.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: We've had in a whole week, but I'm not done
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: feeling like a champion. And I'm sure all of Seattle
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: isn't either. Ernest Jones isn't. That was his speech yesterday.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: It may have fallen short of classy. I'm not sure
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: if it was the classiest speech ever given.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure that it's you know, should be
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: repeated in schools today. I don't know if missus Crabtree
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: should play that speech for her third grade class today
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: up there in Snowhomish, you know, maybe not, maybe slide
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: away from that.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: There's others you could play.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: That's fair, But I will say this if people are
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: hearing that for the first time or are exposed to
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Ernest Jones for the first time. It was something he
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: said earlier in the year. I mean, the whole team
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: knew what was coming. If you've been following the team,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: we all knew it was coming. If you were operating
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: one of the local television stations and you didn't see
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: that coming and dump out in time, then you haven't
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: been paying attention at all. This is something that he
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: said earlier this year and got a lot of headlines
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: for in defending Sam Arnold, and the whole roster was
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: waiting for his speech yesterday so that he could go
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: even further with it. So it's just him kind of
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: they're probably better catchphrases to have as a professional athlete,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: but that kind of was his catchphrase this year, and
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: that was sort of his attitude this year. So when
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: he got up on the stage got behind a microphone,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: we kind of all knew what he was getting.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Ready to say.
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean he's kind of that. I don't
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: know he's that og of the defense. I mean, there's
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: a few of them. D Law I think is another
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: one of them. I think that they have multiple guys.
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: But he's that one. He just seems like that one
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: that just kind of has if there you want to
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: have that dog in you, you want to be that one.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: Like he just kind of hard nos you know, you
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: play the game the right way. He started it off
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: with that, like, we got the team, how about my
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: guys who play the game the right way? And I
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: think there's an attitude that comes with it if there's
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: a lot of things that have to go in to
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: turn it into a super Bowl championship team. And I
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: think that the hate on Sam Donald was a galvanizing
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: thing for everybody in the locker room, right and he
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: was the first one, I think they all were came
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: to his defense and had his back when everybody was like.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, Sam Donald, he's he's not good.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: Look what he did in the playoffs last year, overlooking
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: the fact that he was fourteen and three and whatever
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: else he did well last season. And so when they
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: started hearing it, he just came out and said, you
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: don't like it. You think my quarterback's bad? F you,
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: And so he just doubled down on it now saying
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: we got the best defense. You got something to say
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: about my quarterback, my offensive line or just Seattle in general.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that shirt he was wearing for Wet.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the shirt with Sam Donald like smoking on a
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: long dart and flipping off with a beer. Like if
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: I'm a diehard Seahuk fan, I probably owned that shirt
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: because that's the scarlet d. But put into a different context, Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Well, and I would also, I would imagine Ernest Jones
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: sales have gone up. I mean he checks every box
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: for me. I meant from an athletic standpoint, maybe not
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: the greatest athlete at linebacker in the National Football League,
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: but for everything you're looking for from him inside linebacker,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: from a MIC linebacker, from a green dot linebacker. You know,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: that's an area where you usually do sacrifice a little
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: bit of the forty time, you know, the standing long jump,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: because you just want a dog, as you said, you
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: want the guy with the right mentality for the sport,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: the right leadership qualities.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: And manned as he checked every box.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: I mean I remember when he was a Ram and
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I hate playing this Ernest Jones guy.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: And when he became.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: A Seahawk, I wasn't sure it was going to work
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: out this smoothly but he's just been an excellent addition.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: I would think despite the potty mouth, a few Ernest
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Jones jerseys are going to get sold this offseason.
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I would think so.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: I was listening to another station that had snuck into
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: the locker room and the guy was wearing an Ernest
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: Jones Jones jersey yesterday, and Ernest Jones came up to him.
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: He's like, hey, man, I like your jersey.
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: And the guy was like, hey, thanks, and then looked
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: down and looked up and realized, oh wait, you are
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: Ernest Jones. I just thought that was funny. I was like, yeah,
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: that's a good moment. Hey man, I like your jersey.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: We've got a keyword this hour at is check enter
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• 27:15
  Speaker 2: your shot at one thousand dollars in powerplay cash. We
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: also have some headlines brought to you by Frost Brewed
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Corps Light the Parade yesterday, which we'll talk more about
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: in a moment. The off season is now officially underway,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: even for the Seahawks. A lot of other teams have
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: already gotten started. As it turns out, Seahawks can now
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: get started on their off season. Now that we've had
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: a championship parade in all, yeah, yeah, can focus on
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: other things the rest of the league's been focusing on
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: for a whatever.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: I think they're starting their their search, their in house
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: search to replace Quint Kubiak today. I think that's long
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: been started. Well, I mean they're going to continue with
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: the the I guess today and tomorrow. I think they
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: have the four guys on top of their list that
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: are in house that they who knows, we could know
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: this weekend I'm going to be replacing him.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Well, maybe Greg will tell you to day. Who knows.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Mariner Spring training is underway.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Bucky and I will be there Saturday, first day down
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: there Sunday. First showdown there will be Monday. So we're
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: excited about that, excited about the left turn we're getting
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: ready to take. From a content standpoint in the Seattle
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Sports World, NBA All Star Weekend is this weekend. You
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: doub lost to Penn State last night. That is a
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: terrible loss, sixty three to sixty to a team that
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: had won one Big Ten conference game on your home court,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: and you lose by three.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: That's a bad loss for Danny Sprinkle.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: And the Huskies, and of course the Olympics continue from Milan.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: But around these here parts people still buzzing from a
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: parade that attracted what is believed to be more than
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: a million people. And that's kind of fun because because
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: there's not an exact number, there's no to come up
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: with an exact number. We can lie about it to
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: our friends. Three point seven billion people showed up yesterday.
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: It was packed all over the town.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Everybody on one behavior felt that way, felt like the
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: exact mood that you hoped would be struck got struck
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: early in the morning. I mean, even when we were
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: broadcasting from Jimmy's. I mean, the people that came in,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: they were outstanding. They patiently waited in line for their
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: chance to come into the bar. They came into the bar,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: they were participatory, they were hungry, they were thirsty. The
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: place was packed, and yet there wasn't any nonsense that
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: was going on in the yeah. I mean, they were
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: just there, just happy and didn't want to disrupt anybody
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: else's happiness. And I think that was the key to
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: the whole parade, Like people were there with joy and
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: they weren't there to ruin anybody else's good time, whether
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: that was a player, a coach, or just another Seahawk fan,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: it was a job well done.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, we started the show with this.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: I gave a round of applause to Seattle to twelves,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: I'll give another one. I mean, that was just phenomenal
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: because I just I'm jaded by the news twenty twenty six.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: I don't think you can bring ten people together in
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: a room without somebody throwing a punch. We brought a
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: million people together to celebrate the Super Bowl.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: And it just felt like nothing but a joy celebration.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: It was amazing. Yeah, yeah, it was amazing.
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: I mean I think that the idea of having these
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: parades afterwards is big for the fans, right, and yet
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: yesterday felt like it was really big for the Seahawks. Now,
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: I'm sure that it is for all of them, right,
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: but we remember just the Tom Brady one where he
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: was throwing the trophy and all of the ones. You know,
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: I remember the Philadelphia one last year. Like, I think
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: the players enjoy it, but I think it's more so
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: for the fans. It just seems like the fans all
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: get to get together and go out there and celebrate
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: what they got to witness and the fact that you know,
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: I saw a video of Dick Fane and his family
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: singing we are the Champions in the stadium.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: They did not very well.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they can't carry it to Yeah you guys,
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: very pitchy dog and.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Send some harmony next time. Yeah right. I don't know
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: who's supposed.
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: To take family band, are you?
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you're not the Jackson four, I'll tell you that,
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: But I do. I mean, I think that it's mostly
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: for the fans, but yesterday felt like and maybe it's
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: just because we're closer to it and we know the
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: players a little bit more and foe the season and
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: and you know how they were kind of overlooked at
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: the beginning of season to where they ended up being.
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: But it felt like it was a lot of the
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: a lot of appreciation to the fans, which I don't
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: know necessarily if I always feel like that. When I
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: watched the break.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: I agree, And I don't think that we're over analyzing that.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: I think it was clear. I think it was pure.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: As if anything, I'm a synec about that stuff. Like
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: I said, I don't I get nervous if there are
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: too many people anywhere at any given time, there's a
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: little bit of that that's like, oh boy, there's this
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: is getting too crowded, and so for me to I
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: kind of go into those things kind of expecting something
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: bad to happen, and so, I mean, I think it
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: was just so obvious from the moment we were broadcasting
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: there to the moment we handed it off the Inverness,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: and then on through the day until two o'clock when
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: it started to finally break apart. I think it just
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: went off without a hitch. I gotta believe that somebody
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: had a dream come true wish in the city of Seattle, Like,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: all right, they found Aladdin. You get three wishes, all right,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna spend one of them on no incidents at
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: the parade, I mean, and then then we'll worry about
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: finances and health.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: Well, And it was funny because when Jackson was on
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: the air, he was like, oh, and we've gotten arrest
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: it's an Angels fan and some guy in an Angel
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: T shirt and hat was like the only arrested. He
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: wasn't doing any like I don't know, maybe just being
• 33:03
  Speaker 7: drunken or drunk or something.
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: But it was like the most calm exactly right. But
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: it was like the most calm thing ever. It was like,
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: oh and there's someone and that was it.
• 33:13
  Speaker 7: It was just the whole thing was it was like
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: a love fest between It was from both sides. I
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: think it was the chance for the fans to get
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: to say, like this is you know, as Greg described
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: it yesterday, people who can't couldn't afford to go to
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: the games and couldn't afford to go to the Super Bowl,
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: but they get to celebrate.
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: With their team.
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: And it was a chance for the team to celebrate
• 33:32
  Speaker 7: with all of their fans because they didn't get to do.
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: It at home, right.
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: They had a lot of fans that showed up in
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: Santa Clara, but they got to come here and just
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: get loved upon, and then they got to share the
• 33:40
  Speaker 7: love back with all the fans and the coaches and
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: the staff and the you know, owners and GM everybody
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: just got to show the fans how much they love them.
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: And that was apparent with the amount of players that
• 33:51
  Speaker 7: didn't even want to be in the buses and wanted
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: to be down on the ground showing their actual appreciation
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: of the fans and making it about the fans. While
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: the fans were making it about the players. If that
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: makes sense.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I think it makes a lot of sense. And I
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: think something that we discussed earlier this week. I mean
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: that last championship team. They had a brashness about them
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: and a cockiness about them, and they were the baby
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: only the mother could love here in Seattle because nobody
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: else liked that team. Nationwide, nobody else liked that team.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: But obviously in Seattle, twelves loved that team. That was
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: a championship team. They were exciting to watch play football.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: They they were close in their own way, not like this,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: but that's that was certainly a brash, neist to them,
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: a cockiness, and I think that that rubbed off on
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: the fans. The fans were also brash and cocky. And
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: I lived in Arizona at the time, and Arizona fans
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: would see a Seahawk fan in the grocery store.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Line and they're like, oh, geez, this guy.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: You know, So that was going on back in those times.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: But this team has a completely different persona and maybe
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: that sort of rubs off on the fan base. I'll
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: tell you that. Greg Bell brought this up yesterday. It's
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: something that I've talked about as well. They changed their
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: approach to how they were going to draft here in
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: the last three to four years, and they didn't sacrifice athleticism,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: and they didn't sacrifice the football skills and tools that
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: they were looking for, but they stopped drafting character issues,
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: red flag issues. Pete Carroll had this mentality that I
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: can coach anybody. Just give me the talented guy.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: I'll get the most out of him. I'm Pete Carrol.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: Everybody loves Pete. I'm Pete.
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: And it didn't work every time, and when it did work,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: it didn't work forever. And usually in almost every case,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: including Russell, who was his baby, the guy who he
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: babied and pissed everybody off. Even Russell ended up angry
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: with Pete and wanted out of Well first.
• 36:00
  Speaker 7: He wanted Pete out, yeah yeah, And then it was like, oh,
• 36:03
  Speaker 7: you're not gonna fire Pete, fine, yeah yeah, after.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: All that Pete did for it. So that sort of
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: mentality like give me any.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: I don't care about any like character flaws or anything else,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: because I can coach anybody. I can play any instrument.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Johns and Nider changed things, particularly after Pete left. Is
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: like No, every single person's gonna have character, every single
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: person's gonna have love for the game, and I think
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: that's reflected in the team. I think that's reflective in
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: the roster. And I sit here and this is what
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: I was thinking about yesterday. I mean, we're off to
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: a really special start as a sports community in twenty
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: twenty six, and there's a long way to go in
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: the year.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: There are a lot of exciting things that could happen.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: We could get the Sonics back, we got the World
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Cup coming here the crack and I think are have
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: a shot at making the playoffs, getting back to the
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Stanley Cup playoffs, and the Mariners, according to Pakoda rankings yesterday,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: if you buy into those second highest win total in
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Major League Baseball, so Vegas, saying, next to the Los
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Angeles Dodgers, this is the best team.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: In Major League Baseball.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: So we should have a pretty good baseball season, and
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: who knows what we could do at the end of
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: the year.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: So this could be a special year.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: But I also think it's made more special when your
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: leaders are Cal Raley, Julio Rodriguez, Sam Darnold, guys that
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: aren't just good at what they do you know Ernest Jones,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: I know he's got a potty mouth. I love that guy, JSN,
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Devin Witherspoon, not just great players, but all about the team,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: all about not letting the other guy down. Julio's had
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: a couple of incidents where he got lost in the shuffle,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: but I don't think in any way is he a
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: bad guy. But I think it's even more exciting that
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: not only do we seem to have really good teams
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: right now in Seattle, they are all so likable on
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: all the rosters. It's an amazing little run that we
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: could be going on here in Seattle, and it starts
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six with winning a Super Bowl championship
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: with a very likable team.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: Well, you guys know me well enough to I mean,
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: you guys know me well enough to note that I
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: put a lot of stock in how you do something,
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: maybe even more than how it ends up, just because
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: I think in the long run, how you go about
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: your business is indicative, it's going to be reflective in
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: the outcome of however it is, whether it's how you
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: treat your coworkers, how you treat your family, how you
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: go about your business, as a professional athlete. I think
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: comes out in the wash. If you get a roster
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: of guys, whether it's twenty six in baseball or whether
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: it's fifty three or seventy in the NFL, if you
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: can get a roster of guys that all have a
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: similar belief and then they're pulling for one another, it's
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: more important, Chuck, for me to do my job so
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: that I don't let you guys down. Then it is
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: for you to do your job so you feel good
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: about you. It's that team part of it is what
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: turns anything into more than just a group of individuals
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: trying to do good for themselves.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: And so I'm with you.
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: I think that I think cal Rawley has taken the
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: reins of the team.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: I think he was a bit reluctant to do it,
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: or just maybe waiting his Biden, his time, waiting until
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: he was more of a veteran to have a little
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: bit be a little bit more outspoken. I think in
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: the locker room or in you know, pitcher catchers meeting,
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: he certainly was that guy from this moment he stepped
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: on the on the field here as a big leaguer.
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: But I think that the idea of I'm gonna wait
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: my turn, and then when it's when it's time to speak,
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: I don't have to say a bunch right, My words
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: carry more. Sometimes less is more. I think that he's
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: he kind of embodies that. I think that this Seahawks
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: team from the top down from John Schneiders and when
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: he finally got the reins of the organization and they
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: moved on from Pete, it's like, Okay, I'm going back
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: to what I want, plain and simple, and that includes
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: Mike McDonald higher and it's like this guy has that
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: same type of belief and it trickles all the way
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: down through it. It's way more fun to root for
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: a team that isn't full of a bunch of a
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: holes that are all about me, me, me, but instead
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: they're all about us as a group. It's I don't
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: I can't stand when players are selfish, and I don't
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: think any of the teams we have here in Seattle
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: have that selfishness.
• 40:24
  Speaker 7: Just to compare to when you were talking about that
• 40:26
  Speaker 7: twenty thirteen team and that parade versus this parade. It
• 40:30
  Speaker 7: was interesting because I mentioned yesterday, well I remember Marshawn
• 40:33
  Speaker 7: Lynch walking down the street and he was drinking fireball
• 40:36
  Speaker 7: in champagne and Greg brought up he was throwing skittles.
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: He was the only one.
• 40:41
  Speaker 7: And then you look at yesterday and how many of them,
• 40:43
  Speaker 7: as I mean, how many of them were down with
• 40:46
  Speaker 7: the fans versus up in the buses. They wanted to
• 40:48
  Speaker 7: be a part of it. And I feel like the
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: fans now think versus like back then it was like
• 40:52
  Speaker 7: all these guys are rock stars, and now it's like, no,
• 40:55
  Speaker 7: these guys are one of us.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Hmmm.
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: I think there's a different feeling, like a more camaraderie
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: with the team.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and I wasn't necessarily trying to compare.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: I'm certainly not calling twenty thirteen team, you know, like
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: a like problem children understand why everybody loves them, But
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: there certainly is a different different It's a difference.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: In the way that they and then.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: The guys since that team that they've drafted and tried
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: to roll the dice on where they overlooked red flags
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: and he overlooked character issues. And I think it got
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: them off their path because Pete was way too confident
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: in his ability to coach up guys. I don't care
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: if every coach Malik McDowell's ever had said, don't draft him,
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: They're not me. Yeah, And that was the mentality for
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: about seven years, and it ended up with a bunch
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: of ment drafts or below myth and then they got
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: back to you know what, I'm tired of drafting those guys.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: I want guys that love football, love life, have good
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: relationships with their families, are gonna be good with our fans,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: and and and and also I'm not going to sacrifice talent,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: skill work at not going to sacrifice any of that.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: But i want a different type of football player. That's
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: what I want to win with. And John Schneider and
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald have have cultivated that. They've planted seeds and
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: now they are reaping the benefits of a great harvest
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: because of the time they put into not just finding
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: football talent, but quality football people.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: Oh, I mean I think you can fall victim to it.
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: I think anybody can fall victim to you do something
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: that's different, right, You You take Russell Wilson where everybody
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: else is like too short, you know not, and you
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: it turns into what Russell Wilson was before he needed
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: to cook. You take a guy that was overlooked in
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: a Richard Sherman and you turn him into a Hall
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: of Fame type quarterback. Then all of a sudden, you're like,
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: you almost want to do it different. Yeah, watch me,
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: I'll turn that guy into that guy because he has
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: arms that length.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: No, that's not the way it is. Go back to
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: the basics. How fast is he? Does he fit the
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: does he fit the profile?
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: And then also is he a good teammate because you
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: can't have too many cancers. Once that starts to infect
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: your locker room, it takes over and you got to
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: either cut it off or it's gonna take over, and
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: it's gonna it's gonna diminish the entire product.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: So it starts with wanting nick Emon worry because of
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: what you see on tape.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where it starts.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: But where Mike McDonald's like, you better not lose this guy,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: that's when the other stuff comes into play a right,
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: because not.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Only is he a freak, he loves this game. Do
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: you know what I could do with him? All right,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: you're taking Zabel now, but you better get him too,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: right or I am going to wring your neck.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that's that's the type of player I mean,
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: don't worry, I got it. They got the freak athlete.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: They got the freaking athlete in there. They got this
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: a skilled safety, but they also got a guy that
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: they knew, loved the game, was a great teammate and
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: was going to give us all.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: And man, I think they're just what a magic formula
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: they have created?
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Coming up next, the off season does begin, and for
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Ken Walker, it's going to be a different offseason than
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: a lot of people that were parading about the streets
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: of Seattle yesterday. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: all right, good morning, eight o'clock hour here on this Thursday,
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Yes yesterday we paraded. Today we say goodbyes too many
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: of our experts during the course of this fantastic super campaign.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Mike Sander will join us for the last time officially
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: the football season nine thirty. Still doesn't mean we won't
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: bug him continuously throughout the offseason. Also, it's our final
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: twelfth man roundtable of the twenty twenty five twenty twenty
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: six football campaign as well. Maybe we'll fire it back
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: up around draft time. We shall see, but we've.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Got a lot to break down.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: We have a lot to assess as we are celebrating
• 45:26
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• 45:31
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• 45:34
  Speaker 2: former marinder, Bucky Jacobson. My name is Chuck Powell. But
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: the stars of the eight o'clock hour every Thursday all
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: football season, along our Seahawks insider Greg Bell and also
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: our QBB one Hugh Millan, who is with us here
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: all on, Chuck and Buck.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Good to see it, Great to see you guys. How
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: about it? How about it? How about it? Super Bowl
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: chess celebration. Huh feeling like a Super Bowl change?
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, still kind of floating, man, you know, if
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: you know, I just kind of sometimes just go back
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: to my memory bank of all the Sea Hawk years.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: First game it's the Cardinals, Saint Louis Cardinals and all
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: this and just love the collection of characters and the
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: principles I should probably say, the people at the top,
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: and you know, just really glad for the twelves in
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: the city and all the good people involved, so act
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: relations to everybody.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: They haven't all ended in Super Bowls, I hear. Yeah,
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: all those years. Do you watch Theahawks football.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well I.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Think we counted what one hundred and forty four years
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: of major major professional sports and three parades, So yeah,
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: chairs him.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Greg, what did you think of the parade yesterday?
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Let's start there.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, we got a lot of other football things
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: to break down, but let's talk about the big story
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: of the day, the parade yesterday, and you more feelings
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: about it from your view?
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: Well, good morning. It was really cool. I thought how
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: in the stadium the players grasped that this was about
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: the fans and about the support that they've had, not
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: just this season, but for fifty seasons of football in Seattle.
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: They all struck that same tone. And I'm not at
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: all doubting that Mike McDonald made sure that they'd unified
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: before they took the stage, even though they had red
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: solo cups and were at different stages of coherence, that
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: they all had a common thread that they wanted to
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: portray about the fans, the Seahawk fans. And then the
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: parade started, and it just struck me that how many
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: times in our society today or any time, but especially today,
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: to seven hundred to a million, seven hundred thousand to
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: a million people come together to celebrate the same thing,
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: to not care what background, where you came from, what
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: you believe in. Everyone was happy everyone. I saw teenagers
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: at the end of the parade at front of West
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: Lake Center rushing the barricades and going down Fourth Avenue
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: right behind the team and the Seattle police, Bellevue police,
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: Lakewood police. They formed a court a blockade with their
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: bicycles to keep them from rushing onto the back of
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: the Seahawks parade ensemble. And the kids just stopped and
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: they were cool. And I saw a teenager fist bump
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: a police officer who had denied him access to the
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: rest of the parade. There wasn't insults and fews and
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: f the police, and everyone was happy. And I don't know,
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: we can find a place in society that seven hundred
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: thousand people are all happy about the same thing. And
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: that just struck me that that parade was for everyone,
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: especially for the Seahawks fans who maybe can't afford or
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: don't have the wherewithal, or don't have the ability because
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: of family issues of where they live or work that
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: they can't come to a Seahawks game. So for about
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: I would guess eighty and ninety percent of that seven
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: hundred to thousand to one million people. That was the
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: closest they're ever going to get to see in Seahawks players,
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: not to mention they weren't in helmets and shoulder pads.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: It was a very as intimate as three quarters of
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: a million people could be for that. I mean, DeMarcus
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: Lawrence got off the bus, demanded to be handed the
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: trophy and then just passed it through the crowd. Can
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: you imagine that? Can you imagine doing that in Philadelphia
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: away that trophy to be gone fans. Fans were holding
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: the Lombardi Trophy with de Marcus Martins. Lawrencedn't have a
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: shirt off, and he looked like he could absolutely destroy
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: anyone who might try to run off with the ball
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: with the trophy.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: But reminded me a lot of myself.
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: A lot of all of us. But it was it
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: was just such a community event. And again, we have
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: such a fractured society to see one common cause, that's
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: the that's what sports is all about. At its best,
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: Sports unifies and brings everybody together, and it brought three
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: quarters of a million people together to be just happy. Yeah,
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: it was it was awesome.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: I didn't really Yeah, I think that's really well said.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: I only disagree with one thing. There was one prominent
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: f you.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: So here, what did you think of Ernest Jones? A
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: couple thoughts about it?
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: Oh wait, are you surprised? Have you not paid attention
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: as soon as he took the stage.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: Well, look, if you ask me, would I rather him
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: swear or not swear? With all the kids there, I
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: probably say no. What's my bother major zero? Because every
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: because every time I hear that. A couple things. First
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: of all, remember now he was attaching the swear word
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: to a statement of loyalty, which originated just with Sam Darnold,
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: and we all know the story. But then you know
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: he kind of amplified that. So so he's he's what
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: he's swearing about is is the best thing you could
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: swear about, which is your loyalty to all your teammates
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: in a team environment. The other part of it, when
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: I watched the tape of the Super Bowl and I
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: see that the Patriot running backs had forty three yards,
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: and I'm watching Ernest Jones like he has the answers
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: to the test, the cheat code, and he's just every
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: place he needs to be. And then finally, you know,
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: middle linebacker going to training camp. Those linebackers the way
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: they got to take on a guard, you know, it's
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: three hundred and forty pounds one play, and then they
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: got to sprint and cover a running back on a
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: wheel route. You know, some who runs a four to
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: four like that. If your business card says NFL middle linebacker,
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: you are so bad at because the toughness and the
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: and and so when you get a guy who's wired
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: to be that good at that position, you know what,
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: there might be a couple of things on the peripheral
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: about it that come with it, that come with it.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: It manifested right in that moment moment, so uh yeah,
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: So at any rate, you know, if that's what it
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: takes for him to be that you know, hey, you know,
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: I'm sure all the kids that wasn't the first time they.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Heard that twelve man round there by the way, and
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Greg Bucky, you know, if.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: You know, if you call out ernest, then that that
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: brings in cal Rawley, who's untouchable, right Like that's right?
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we found that out shocked. So I just
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: end up kind of chuckling about it. Well, we could
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: use a different synonym for laugh. But let me ask
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: you if you brought up something about like you thought
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: he had the cheat code. Adam Archiletta made a few
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: headline we should talk about the game itself a little
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: bit a round table here today. Adam Archiletta made a
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: few headlines. He said, I went back and watched the film,
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: and it looked like Mike McDonald knew everything they were.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Going to do.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: And of course some people ran with that, like, oh
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: he knew something, you're stealing signs something like that. But
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you, like when you watched the film,
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, what do you credit that to a head
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: coach that's been described as a defensive genius that seems
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: to be in in the huddle in the Super Bowl
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: against the assistant coach of the Year Josh McDaniels in
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: the National Football League? What did you see when you
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: watch the film? Did it feel like Mike McDonald was
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: in the huddle of the Patriots?
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: I think most weeks it looks like he's in the
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: huddle other than two games against the Rams. But yeah,
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: and remember Josh mctown's was six Super Bowl rings on
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: the Patriots staff. I think it starts there's a complexity
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: to what they do. They are making adjustments on the
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: fly with that that that are based on the personnel,
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: the hash mark down in distance, the you know, even
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: in motion, they're they're they're flipping the defense mirror, you know,
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: a fraction of a second before the ball snap based
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: on on motion. And so that's why DeMarcus Lawrence can
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: come in here after playing twelve years of the Cowboys
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: and say that it takes a PhD to play under
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: Mike McDonald's system. So Mike McDonald has a very complex,
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: uh uh vision of how to play in the defense
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: in the NFL, and he wants to you know, he
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: wants to be ahead like a pitcher wants to be
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: ahead in the count. He is always striving to be
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: ahead in the count and to be able to to
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: nail down and work in probabilities. He's you know, he's
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: big in math, and he just say, if we can
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: get into the this defense against this formation and all
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: the things I just mentioned, we can get into that,
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: then we have a better plan. And you know, I
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: you know one play that the interception on Julian Love,
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: I thought it was the play of the game. If
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: you look at how they played that, there was a
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: double in route to the Seahawks left side. You know,
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: most teams will have Devin Witherspoon, He's lined up as
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: the overhang defender. He's gonna have the flat and Ernest
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: Jones is gonna drop in the under and and get
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: it underneath.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: The deep dagger route. They switch it.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: They have Ernest Jones in the flat, the easier route,
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: and they have Witherspoon kind of dropping diagonally back into
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: the middlefield and he's right in the past, he's right
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: in the pass lane. It's like Witherspoon knew that they're
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: gonna try and go double dig on you and and
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: get to this spot because that's where Drake may won't
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: be able.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: To throw the ball right. And but that happens. I
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: just gave you one one example.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: I could just go on greg for you know, a
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: dozen scores of these examples.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: And Ernest Jones.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: You know, they build the wall up front with their
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: defensive tackles in there. They play gap in a half,
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: so say don't penetrate their position to throw guys off
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: and get into their second gap, the opposite gap. So
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: they're building that wall, they're spilling and and then Ernest
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: Jones just has to flow and he just was like boom,
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: He's on it. So we could go an hour talking
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: about how Mike McDonald has this vision and uh, and
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: yet he quotes Einstein when he says, you know, keep
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: things as simple as possible, but no simpler. He knows
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: exactly the threshold that he can take. And there's been
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: a time Greg where he admitted, hey, I threw too
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: much at him and yeah on the Thursday night game
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: and you know, and so you know, there's gonna be
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: a little bit of growing pains. Here's a young coach,
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: but he's gonna find he's gonna calibrate that fine tune
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: to know exactly the level that he can ask of
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: his players to to to adjust and and have the
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: cheat code without over bearing them.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: Greg.
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's really a marvelous say everything that John
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: Schneider envisioned about say, and hey, if we don't get
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: Ben Johnson, the genius on offense. And I'm not saying
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm implying that Mike McDonald's scond choice. I don't
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: mean to imply that, but it was kind of either
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: or Ben Johnson the offensive genius to match wits with
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: McVeigh and Shanahan or Mike McDonald to match wits with
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: the genius on the defensive side. That's how it played out.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: And every vision that John Schneider would have had in
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: that regard Greg all came true, and we just had
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: a parade to prove it.
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: They had a tell on the Patriots. It was an
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: easy run past tell. I talked to Devin Witherspoon in
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: the locker room amid the cigar smoke and the Don
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: Julio nineteen forty two bottles. Those bottles are expensive, and
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: they were all over the locker room.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: They were all in and they got money.
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: It turns out, it turns out they do. And Devin
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: Witherspoon told me, we knew what their past sets were.
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: We knew. It turns out that they had through scouting
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: and film study, determined that when this Patriots are going
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: to pass, the left tackle Will Campbell would move his
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: hands in his legs. He got Pitcher given away his
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: pitch before with a ball and the glove, and they
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: knew pass run. Now, they didn't know exactly what passed,
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: but they knew pass run on almost every play. They
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: also knew where the running backs were going to set
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: on blitzer. Witherspoon explained to me that we knew that
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: either Stevenson or whoever they kept in to be the
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: chip back to block on blitzes. They knew exactly where
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: they were going to set depending on the blitz. So
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: what did Mike McDonald do. He blitzed Devin Witherspoon more
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: than he's blitzed them all season. He blits three times
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: in the first two drives. Witherspoon only blitz nineteen times
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: in his fourteen games that he played all season, missed
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: a few games with the injury in September. As we've
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: remember nineteen times the entire season. He blitzed three times
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: in the first quarter of Super Bowl sixty. Why because
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: withers McDonald wanted to send Witherspoon and Emon Worry at
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: the same time, because they knew what the back would do.
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: But there's only one back that they didn't think The
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: Patriots had an answer for a double defensive back blitz.
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: Why could the Seahawks do that? Because they play nickel
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: and dimes so much that there's six defensive backs in
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: the field. If they send two they still have four,
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: and they still have their front four getting pressure that
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: they have all season. Nick Emun Worry I mentioned he's
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: the most integral Seahawk on the team. Nicki Mun Worry
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: allows Mike McDonald to double blitz defensive backs because he
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: allows him to play six defensive backs with Wooln and
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: Job and the two starting safeties and Emon Worry and
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: Witherspoon all in the field at the same time. And oh,
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: by the way, they stopped the run in those formations,
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: which is why they stay in and all the time.
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: No team in the NFL was in five and six
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: defensive backs more of this season than Seattle because of
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: nick Emun Worrey and so in the Super Bowl, when
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: nick Emun Worry twisted his ankle on Wednesday, Mike McDonald
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: told me that he did not sleep that night. He
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: woke up seventy times in his estimation maybe an exaggeration,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: and his first thought was, I just we just lost
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. Wow, this was on wind, This was
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: on Wednesday. He thought that if even Worri couldn't play,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: they had just lost the Super Bowl. He was that
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: integral to the plan because of this double blitz with
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: with with Witherspoon, and we saw what the blitzing with
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: Witherspoon created in the game. I voted, I had one
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: of the sixteen media votes in the Super Bowl Super
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: Bowl MVP that the league dished out. I voted for
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: Witherspoon to be the MVP of the game. But if
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: Nicky Monwory wasn't available, none of that plan would have worked.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: Witherspoon would have been blitzing by himself. The back would
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: have picked him up. When they saw that Emon Worri
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: could go full go and practice on Friday, McDonald's said,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: the entire team just gave Witherspoon a hell I mean,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: Emon Worey a hell of a time for being a
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: drama queen for going because he was like like he'd
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: been shot in practice on Wednesday, and all of a
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: sudden he was full go, running around like nothing happened
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: on Friday. And then that's when McDonald said he knew
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: he had the Patriots. They they did not think the
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: Patriots could drive multiple times for touchdowns when the game
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: mattered against their defense, and they couldn't. It was a
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: nineteen nothing shut out into the fourth quarter until garbage time.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: McDonald has been doing this all season. His scouting, his staff,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: picking up little nuances like a left tackle moving his
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: hand when they're going to pass, is the reason why
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: they absolutely destroyed the Patriots passing.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: Like a Greg Maddox thing like I'm just I think,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm out triple triple thinking your double think,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: Like I don't know if you're thinking, I'm throwing a
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: slider here, so I'm going to throw a slider.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: Because then you just double think. So it's sort of
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: like sort of like that, he's just he's just out.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: He's out, which, by the way, which, by the way,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: is exactly the opposite to have the Seahawks won there.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: On the other Super Bowl, Mike Pete Carroll was four
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: to three cover three. I don't care if you know
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: what we're in. We got better Jimmy's and Joe's than
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: your ex'es and o's. We're staying in this. And Mike
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: McDonald's the opposite. He gives you every look imaginable. As
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: you mentioned and we've talked about for two years, they
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: changed right at the snap with a one word command.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: They're smoking mirrors. On top of having athletes to play
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: the schemes they are exactly the opposite in scheme and
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: how they play than how the Seahawks went with the
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: Legion to boot same result.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, in the fourth quarter, the Seahawks played virtually
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: all dime, but in passes and quarters one, two, and
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: three they were nickel twelve snaps dime eleven snaps. So
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: they were and when they get into dime that on
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: a lot of coverages they want to play. For example,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: what's called cover four quarters. There's only three guys underneath,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: so you got Ernest Jones in the middle, and then
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: the two guys that have to cover a lot of
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: ground in the flat are Witherspoon and Emon Worry, who
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: are just freak out leads. They're they're just the their
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: their turbo button, so they can cover so much closed ground.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: They're sure tacklers and and uh you know, to that
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: point in the Super Bowl, the d a dB one
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: or more dbs rushed on five of tenu Or Drake
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: May was five of ten for twenty two yards, one interception,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: one sack, a passer rating of sixteen point seven. Now,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: if you just took one step and threw the ball
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: into the crowd every single play, you're passer rating would
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: be thirty nine point six because you wouldn't throw an interception.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah right, And so to have a seventeen passer rating,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: that shows how effective the blitz was. You know, I
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: think Mike McDonald, first of all, if that's actually true,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: that that he that he couldn't sleep and he thought
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: that they lost the Super Bowl, I would say two things,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: you know, find somebody else that you that if emon
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: worry's down, that you still think you can win games, right.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: And then second of all, I don't believe it. I
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: think he would have had like he was deciphering the
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: blocking scheme of Josh McDaniels, this is this is their
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: past pro and uh, and he would have had other blitzes.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: Had he not had im and worry. He had like
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: everything wasn't gonna shut down.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: It might not have gone.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: It might not have been the Picasso defensively that he envisioned.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: But I don't believe for a second that that he
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: wouldn't have had a great, a great backup plan on
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: his blitz package.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: But Emon worry it commands so much attention already as
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: a rookie that he knew the Patriots' past protection game
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: plan would largely be centered to Brown Emon Worry, and
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: if it was Tylecotta or somebody else in there, it
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: wouldn't be nearly the impact and his plan would. He
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: tried to go Tyo Kotta for Nick even Worry in
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: Game one when Eemon Worry went out on the fourth
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: play and Kyle Shanahan killed him got a touchdown in
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: the first down on the very first week, went Greg, Yeah,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: I understand, I understand. I'm telling you I cannot overemphasize
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: how much nick emun Worry means to Mike.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: Nick emunrory is worth seventeen points on a Vegas line.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: You're telling me that after three quarters when the Patriots
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: had they were on a pace for one hundred and
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: four yards. They had seventy eight total yards. You're saying
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: that without Emon Worry that the Patriots would have won
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: the game.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: Nope, didn't say that, but in words of my well,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: I didn't say that at all, but just said that
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: he is so central to Mike McDonald's plan that the
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: coach couldn't sleep. And what people don't understand about McDonald
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: is he saw even Worry the first practices of the
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: season and said, I'm doing everything with this cat. I'm
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: making him this centurie.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: We've talked about that, we agree.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, and so he said, I am going to make
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: him the central piece of the super Bowl game plan.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: And he was not in the mood on Thursday morning
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: of the Super Bowl week to change his game plan,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: and he was freaking out about it. That's the point
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: I'm trying. I'm just telling you what he said. And
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: I don't take McDonald for someone who would just blow
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: smoke and telling me that he was concerned about Emon
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: Warrey's injury, because that's how central he was to the
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: game plan.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: Look, okay, so do you think if Emon Worry was out,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: he obviously had a plan?
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it would have been nineteen nothing in
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: the fourth quarter if Nick emn Warrior.
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  Speaker 1: That's been thing, But they had a plan.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think that Witherspoon would have hit a quarterback
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: in May would have thrown it right to and will
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: sue for an interception if Emon Warrior was out. I
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: cannot overemphasize nick Eman Worey's value. I thought he was
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: an all pro.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: I think he's really valuable too. We have shared that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying, here's where here's where Look, it's not provable,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: it's not false and vile. We we don't have a
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl where the Seahawks defense played without Emon Worriy.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: I understand his value like i've I've highlighted him as
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: much or more as you, Greg, but I but I'm
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: giving credit to Mike McDonald and having been on a
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl team myself, that teams look like injuries happen,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: and people on both sides of the ball, they if
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: they're a great loaded team and you have a great
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: load coach who is who is a genius, they find
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: a way and it might not have been as dominant,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: But I think that it would have.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: We would have said he there would have been something.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: It might not have been like no snowflake is is
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: exactly the same that the play where Witherspoon hits him
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: by the way that that was a uh that was
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: a play where you had Ernest Jones and Witherspoon coming
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: on a routine fire zone. You got Boy and Mafey
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: dropping off to the other side. The beauty that is
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: that he McDonald plays a four deep, two deep hybrid
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: instead of a three deep three under that Vrabel does
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: when he does a five man pressure. So so even
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: worry was not was not central to that play on
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: the on the on the Nuoso touchdown, that was that
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: was just the fact that they couldn't handle a routine
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: fire zone.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: That's how bad they were. And so.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: I just look, we're gonna I think if we vanned
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: our diagrammed ourselves, so sounds like we have this conflict.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: If we've then diagrammed, if we've truly parsoned out Greg,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: we would almost overlap entirely, because I absolutely agree with
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: all of the incredible versatility and athleticism that even worry
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: gives you. I'm just saying that that the unknown of
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: Mike McDonald's, oh crap, I have to actually call a
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: defensive game without even worry in this Super Bowl, I
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: think he finds a way, and I think it would
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: have been nearly as dominant.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: All Right, we got a lot of other things to discuss.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: We'll continue our twelfth Man Roundtable next on Sports Radio
• 1:08:47
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  Speaker 2: Yes, we could not let go our final twelfth Man
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: Roundtable of the football season. Now that the Seahawks are
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl champions and they wouldn't have got there without
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: the analysis of Greg Bell and Hugh Millen all season long.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: It really was a key factor that was mine.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: You didn't ask me what my factor was Championship I
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 5: make with Donald Schneider.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: Good good job by those guys, for sure.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd say above average. Yeah, but you didn't get
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: there without Breed Love and Greg Bell.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: Their analysis carried the day on everything as much as
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: John Snyder.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, probably would have been like a I don't know,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: like a ten and seventeen without them.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the difference maker, the difference makers. So we've decided,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: well why not on the last one. We got more
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: stuff to talk about. We haven't even got into like
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: where does the team go from here? And so we're
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: gonna do one more segment with Greg and with Hugh
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: here on Chuck and Buck. Let me first tell you
• 1:10:04
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  Speaker 2: three KJR dot com. So we haven't discussed JSN. We
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: can get through the last roundtable without discussing JSN and Hugh.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: I'll get the conversation started with you. I mean, just
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: how fabulous a year he had, But also you won
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: a Super Bowl with him not having the big statistical game,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: and it does.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: You're if you're worried about stuff like this at all,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: you do wonder Patriots didn't give the NFL like a
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: cheat code on how to defend JSN in the Super Bowl?
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: Did they?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so. Look he he.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: Sam Darnold had, you know, thirty eight pass attempts. So
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: if you look and say to me, all right, and
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: you know watched all the tape, I watched it initially
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: and then I rewatched it with only the eye to
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: JSN on that very question, and he was wearing green shoes.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: It was easy to find him. You know, we know
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: his body style anyways. But but if you said to me,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: present a video evidence that supports the conclusion that the
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: Patriots didn't give Willy nilly whether or not number eleven.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: Was round, I could. I could do that.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: I could show you signs where he's For example, he
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: goes in motion, Christian Gonzalez is you know, over the
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: outside receiver, and then JSN comes over, and then Gonzalez
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: was the whitest guy on the defense. They pop somebody out,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: you know, Cooper Cup. I'll say he just widens out
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: with Cooper Cup, he doesn't, you know, Like there's a
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: lot of evidences that they didn't pay any attention. But
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: then if you said, okay, is their video evidence to
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: support the conclusion that they that they knew they were
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: really trying to squeeze squeeze on JSN.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: Yet you can do that too.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: They traveled Christian Gonzales with him a number of times
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: in man to man they squeezed zone. For example, do
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: you remember when Cup caught that ball over on the
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: sideline on the first ser You know that we could
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: have should have been reviewed twenty twenty three yarder on
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: that one.
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  Speaker 1: You got JSN running the thin post on the corner.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of times a free safety will come top
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: down to help double that over route and leave the
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: corner one on one on the the essentially the deep look. No,
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  Speaker 3: they they double team JSN and they singled on Cup
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: on that one. There was another time where they played
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: a three DP Who's whoever twenty five is? I planned
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: to look at Jones, I think, yeah, that's right. Yeah,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: you could see where where JSN is running a buzz
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: and Mark Jones has the flat underneath it and he
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: is screaming outside to get underneath JSN. They're squeezing to
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: him fifty three for the Patriots. You know, on a
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: on a on a rock concept that the Seahawks have
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: been very successful with all years. Some people we'll call
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: it wrap, some people call it hammer. But you have
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: a little hits at five yards and then you run
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: js in on like a ten twelve yard dig route.
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  Speaker 3: You see the fifty three instead of you know, he
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: is squeezing back into the hole to so its zone coverage.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: But the defenders they're looking around oh number eleven and
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: in their positioning within the zone there they're getting to JSN.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: And then another you know, one time balls on the
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: right hash they're playing Tampa two. The Seahawks have three
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: receivers to the field. The middle linebackers should go to
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: the three receiver side, not the two receiver side, but
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: the mic linebackers stand right there on the HASH looking
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: over it. It's it's literally unsound, but they're looking to
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: the JSN side. So those would be examples of zone
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: coverage where you're squeezing to JSN. There's a couple times
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: where you're just open and Darnold didn't throw it. Both
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: the times on Shaheed on those deep balls that you know,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: those long foul balls that we didn't quite hit on,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: JSN was wide open. And then of course there was
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: the touchdown at the end of the second quarter that
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: was I would say Donald, if I'm quarterback coaching Donald,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: that was his worst play. You know, he had a
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: touchdown right there, Jaysn beat Gonzales across his face, beautiful
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: scheming balls on the right hash FTV formation and boundary,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: you got one on one, a canyon in there, and
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: Donald had a poor pass that was almost intercepted.
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  Speaker 1: So so I think there's a variety of all that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that there's any blue print out there
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  Speaker 3: that the Patriots put on tape to stop JSN for
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty six.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think anybody's gonna stop him anytime soon. Greg.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Witherspoon and JSN can be given extensions this offseason.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: Are they going to hop right on that because they
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: look pretty special?
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  Speaker 4: I don't think right away. That's not the priority of
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: the offseason. First of all, not every team has Christian Gonzalez.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: He was tremendous. Yeah, that should have been a touchdown
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: on the play. At the back, third down play at
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: the backside, and late in half. But he saved Patriots
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: two touchdowns should have been seventeen to nothing at halftime,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: the one he broke up the Shaheed as well. The
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: Patriots started the game with Gonzalez tracking on the first drive,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: Smith and Jigball all over the field and Donald didn't
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: throw to him one time on that eight play drive
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: for the field goal. The second drive, they Patriots did
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: not have the Gonzalez and man and Donald threw to
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: Smith and Jigga three straight times, two incompletions and a completion,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: and they punted a three and out. Gonzalez was very
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: good in that game, and that's part of the reason. Yes,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: and not every team has a guy like that. They
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: have other priorities on re signing Shaheed, what they're gonna
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: do with Kenneth Walker. McDonald really likes Kobe Bryant starting
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: in the deep middle of his defense. His contract is
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: also up. Those are the priorities. They know they have
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: Smith and Jigba, and he wants to stay. They know
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: they can do that. It is true that they're habitually
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: entering the final year of their contractors. When they re
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: upped their foundational guys, and Smith and Jigbob will never
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 4: command more money at this age. He's still only twenty
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 4: three years old, he's eighteen hundred yard receiver. He will
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: he could get a two hundred million dollar contract. The
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: more they're gonna get you heat done. I think that's
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: the top priority that might happen. It could happen any
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: day that I think is going to be the first
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: offseason contract you're going to hear about.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: They when they traded for him from the Saints, gave
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: him two third day picks. They had already talked about
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 4: what money it would take to keep him as part
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 4: of the trade negotiations, So this is not new they're
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: going to The more interesting to me is what they're
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: gonna do with Walker.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have the guy. My gut failing is he's
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: not gonna be a Seahawk next year.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: Your thought, well, the dynamics of having a new agent,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: a big time agent with big time clients David Canter
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: and the Rsports Group suggest Canter is going to say
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: the Seahawks had their chance. They had all this season
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: to reup you, they had before this season to reupp
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 4: and now it's five to six weeks from four weeks
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: less than before the free ency market opens. You want
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: to sign now or the Seahawks you want to give
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 4: him a deal? No, you had your chance. I say
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 4: this all the time. The NFL player lives and breathes
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 4: football from the time their little kids in two A
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: days and captains practices for this second contract. They play
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 4: with pain killers, They play with injuries to get to this,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 4: the second NFL contract. And when it gets this close
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 4: to the free agent market, when you can have multiple bidders,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 4: why not drive your price up. Kenneth Walker will never
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: be worth more than he is now at age twenty
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 4: five at a position that breaks down. So it seems
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 4: like if he goes to the market, he will leave
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: and the Seahawks won't be able to afford to keep
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: him even if they wanted to. Pretty much they had
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 4: their chance on Kenneth Walker. But yeah, I think she
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 4: Heat's priority won here and now. If Walker leaves, Zach
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 4: Charbonnay is not going to be ready for maybe not
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 4: the beginning of training game, maybe not the beginning of
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: the season. They kind of pay themselves in a corner
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 4: there by this old management and not committing to Walker.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: By now walker they need to be back next year.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: Well, I think see heat is an interesting topic because
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: on the one hand, you know, he's two players, right,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: he's his special teams contributions. That's inarguable, right, that that's
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: really valuable. And you know, I think many have made
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: the point that without the punp return against the Rams,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: maybe all this never happens. Yeah, so he is he
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: is a deadly weapon in special teams as a wide receiver.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: I know, going into the NFC Championship Game, he had
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: he had played ten games for the Seahawks, had one
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: hundred and eighty eight yards as a receiver, and that
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: would be if over seventeen games, that would be three
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: and twenty yards. Now, he had the long long ball
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: in the first drive. That was the first time he
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: had a completion over twenty one yards air yards in
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: the entire his entire tenure with the Seahawks. In the
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl, he then comes back and and he you know,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: he has he has two yards receiving. So I would
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: say he is he is a below the median wide receiver.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: And that's even considering his impact and speed and and
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: and and how he can open things up. So so
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: I think he's just kind of kind of mid as
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: a receiver, and that might even be charitable. He doesn't
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: track the ball, great, he you know, he doesn't catch
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: contested balls, great, you know. I just I think I
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: think being a wide receiver as instinctive as it is
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: to JSN, it's that uninstinctive to him.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: I don't want to say this, you know, three days
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: after or four days after the super Bowl, but you
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: know you're asking me as an analyst. My opinion, my
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: my take on on on him. I think there's a
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: very clear distinction. Uh So, if you're paying him all that,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: if he's that big of a priority, it has to
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: be on his contributions as a special teams guy, because
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: I think that the contributions as a wide receiver were disappointing.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: We did spend a lot of time though, back in
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: training camp talking about where's the guy that takes the
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: lid off the defense, that keeps the defense honest?
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: And if you've got Jah, yeah, Horton. Still maybe it's
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: then and and maybe it's not you Heat, I don't know.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: And well that's why they would keep Horton and she
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: Heat and Horton be the more polished receiver, and she
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 4: he'd be the All Pro Pro Bowl.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: Well, if you just say, you know, you've got to
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: be able to play with eleven personnel, you know, playing
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: with tem you know, four wides, that doesn't Yeah, you
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: need depth, but but you have to have three receivers
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: on the field that that you that you feel can
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: make a contribution. I'm wondering if Cooper Cup come back.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: You know, I think I think that he's kind of
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: just a guy. So so I think Tory Horton has
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: a real opportunity if he can stay healthy. This is
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: something that dogged him at Colorado State, Like just stay
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: in hell. I've never heard of a shin injury taken
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: out a guy for half. I mean, I've heard of
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: shin splints. I've never like, I've never heard it. Like
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: did you have surgery? Did did you break your tibby
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: and fibula?
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: Is a rod in your shin?
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 6: Like?
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: How does the shin hold you out? I don't know.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: I'm ignorant to this, so I don't it is so
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on there.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: But but I you know, you've got to be able
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: to play in eleven personnel. You have to have three
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: receivers out there, and I think there's a lot of
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: questions about who those guys are.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Cup is an interesting question. Cup Friday is an
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: interesting day. Five days after the Super Bowl is a
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: trigger date for veteran guarantees. Cooper Cup gets nine million
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: dollars tomorrow. If he wants to come back, the Seahawks
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: will absolutely have him back. But if I could see
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: him thirty two going on thirty three years old, with
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 4: three young children, two Super Bowl rings of Triumphant returned
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: to his home state, maybe he retires. I don't. I've
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: got no indication he would, but it wouldn't completely shock me.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 4: What a week for Sam Darnold, huh, Disneyland opening a
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: raising Canes Feten.
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  Speaker 10: Everybody loves him. He's gonna make seventeen and a half
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 10: million dollars tomorrow on a new guarantee. If the Seahawks
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 10: wanted to restruck ever been busy. John Schneider was red
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 10: solo cups yesterday. Wasn't exactly doing contracts yesterday. But if
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 10: they wanted to give a restructured new deal to Donald,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 10: they would probably have to do by tomorrow. Otherwise they're
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 10: committing seventy and a half million dollars in a guarantee,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 10: a roster guarantee. By tomorrow, that's probably not gonna happen.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: He's gonna get a seventeen and a half million and
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 4: then they may restructure him down the road for a
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: deal beyond his deal ends after next season. Suddenly it
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 4: was only a three year contract. Abe Lucas gets seven
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: million dollars tomorrow. Ernest Jones gets five million to Marcus
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 4: Lawrence gets five million, Daron Reed gets two million. Is
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: Jared Reid come back going on thirty three? So right away.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: One of the downfalls of being the longest team to
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 4: play is that you jump right into the off season.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: The damn combine is I'm supposed to be in Indianapolis
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 4: in eight days. You think I want to be there
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 4: right now? I mean this. They don't want to be
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 4: there either.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: Very romantic destination if you'd like, because.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 4: She was no part of Indiana And in February I'll
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: tell you about.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: By the way, the only thing negotiating a new contract
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: with John Schneider yesterday was his liver.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: That's that's what was going on there.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: We have to get in the offensive coordinator conversation I'll
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: start with you, Greg on this one.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: Maybe Cooper Cup becomes the OC next year.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: But I went on a couple of different barnstorming interviews
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: last week to talk about the Seahawks Super Bowl in
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: various cities, and they are really concerned for the Seahawks
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: that they're going to lose their OC and the whole
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: thing could come crumbling down around the organisation. But how
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: big of a deal is it that Clint Kubiak's moving
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: on and who's replacing him.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 4: It is a big deal. And the players loved him,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 4: and they loved that. The results speak for themselves. Donald
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: loved him. I was told Monday at the MVP Coaches
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 4: press conference in San Francisco that they are going to
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 4: do their first priorities to hire internally and promote someone
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 4: for that job. Who's that someone? Jake Pete has a
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: little bit pass game coordinates, a little bit of play
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: calling responsibility in the past. Andrew Janoko, I'm told, is
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 4: on a two year contract. Unlike some position coaches, he
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: has one year beyond this one. He's thirty seven years old.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 4: He followed Kubiak, he was with them in the Saints
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 4: and followed them to Seattle. If they wanted continuity with Donald,
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 4: they would promote Janoko at age thirty seven at the
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: play colle job. He's never done it before at this
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 4: level or any level. Those are two of the primary
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 4: in house candidates I mentioned. I think just as important
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 4: as that John Benton stays in this role no matter
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 4: who they choose at the offensive coordinator spot. But they're
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 4: gonna they're already starting to interview internally this week for
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 4: that offensive coordinator job, and it would not surprise me
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 4: if it's he to Jake Pet's or Andrew Jinoko.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: I worried should we be about losing Kubiak From a
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks perspective, I'm pretty darn concerned.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: I'm very concerned, you know. And when you talk about
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: hiring from within, and consider the Lions last season, they're
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: fifteen and two with Ben Johnson. Everything's flown, They're setting
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 3: records all over the place. Ben Johnson goes to the Bears,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: they say, well, we got to hire from within, right
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: for all the reasons that are obvious and that we've
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: been discussing right here. They promote John Morton, and everything,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: you know, just totally unravels. And halfway through the year,
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: you got Dan Campbell. He's calling the place right. So
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: hiring from within, you know, it doesn't just ensure that
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: everything's going to maintain that continuity. And we could cite
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: many other examples. I I just would say that I
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: put my trust in Mike McDonald. Mike McDonald knows enough
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: about you know. Look, he he you know, he made
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: the decision for Grubb. He has a vision not only
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: about his defense but about his offense. If he's got
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: a guy who has particularly a guy who's been in
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: house that he has coached with, he knows that guy's acumen.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: In all likelihood.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: It's not to say that that he couldn't make a mistake,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: But that's the basis for me as a fan to
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: have a little bit of ease about the matter, is
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: to just say, well, Mike McDonald's gonna have to sign
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: off on whoever they bring in, either from.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: Within or from without. Yeah, what about Mouse Davis. You
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: want to bring the run and shoot back to be
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: the quarterback coach? Yeah, we just remake everything.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jack Party, you know, let's bring back the run
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: and shoot.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: That would be a nice Trand I met you McDonald
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: would love that.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: All right, gentlemen. Well, phenomenal year. Thank you both so
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: very much. I know that people look forward to Thursdays
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: at eight o'clock all football season long. It's because of
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: the two of you, uh and uh, and so we
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedules
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: to join us. It's been a great year, a super
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: Bowl year. And of course we'll start negotiating with you
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: for next season immediately.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: That's so.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: I appreciate you. Appreciate you appreciating us, and and thank you.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: What a what a ride, what a year. Let's uh,
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: let's try and go get two. Yeah, and then it's
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: never three has never been done.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Greg, every single day, work every day.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: That's on Greg's vacation.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's fun. I'm sure I'll talk to you tomorrow.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. Yeah, we'll talk to you tomorrow. Greg.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: All right, Well that I.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 4: Don't know why you said. I don't know why we're
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 4: saying goodbye. I just always we have to laugh.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: But it was, as a matter of fact, could you
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: come on tonight? That being great? We're doing special court
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: seven am tomorrow. Greg. That's right.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope you're to hear that.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: All right, the twelfth Man round Table comes to an
• 1:28:09
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• 1:28:10
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• 1:28:11
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• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a little extended round table action for you here
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: on this Thursday. And why wouldn't we Why wouldn't we
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: on the very last episode with Hugh and Greg.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 5: I don't know, it would not make any sense. I mean,
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 5: we've made poor decisions on the show before myself. Yeah,
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 5: but you've been adding you to the show.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I think that was really young.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: It was I think it worked out well. No, it
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: was my decision. I had the offer.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 5: I said, Yes, it was a poor decision on all parts.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, Well the point is somebody really
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: made a bad decision. Yes, yes, multiple people did.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: All right, joining us now on the program another single tier,
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: even though we'll probably bug him in a couple of weeks.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: Goodbye to our NFL Insider, Our final official conversation of
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: the season with in the Athletics NFL insider Mike Sando.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: Good morning, Mike man.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 11: It was great seeing you guys down there. It was
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 11: in San Francisco. That was one of my favorite things
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 11: was just seeing people, you know that you talked to,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 11: but just seeing them being around people was really great.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: And by the way, you looked like younger than the
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: last time I saw you. What kind of drugs are
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: you on?
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 11: Big regimen? Big regimen? Yeah, I've a full time staff.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 11: You know, every morning starts out with a couple hour
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 11: massage and then to the cucumbers over the eyes.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: You know, for a while, I think you're getting those
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: Brad Pitt Johnny Depp Hollywood drugs. That's what I think
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: you're getting.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 11: Absolutely, it was a huge regiment. No, hopefully this is
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 11: just payback for you know, I was always that guy
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 11: who looked like he was eight years old until he
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 11: was thirty, you know, and just for you know, you
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 11: always hated.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: It back then.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 11: You know, I could barely grow a beard in college.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 11: You know, my kids scuse me now that I can't
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 11: even really grow a great one. So, uh now it
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 11: all makes sense. Yeah, and may it all makes sense.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 11: Maybe I got some lucky uh you know whatever.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and for some reason, I think most people when
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: they see your face don't think you're six foot five.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: I already knew that, but not a lot of that.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 4: That's kind of a thing.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I think we all have we all, you know,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 11: just sort of picture everyone kind of being five ten
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 11: or whatever the average is, you know. So, yeah, when
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 11: one of the funny stories years ago, I had been
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 11: friends with Mike Reese, who go was the Patriots for ESPN.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 11: You know, we we we've been friends on the phone
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 11: for like five years. And at the Houston Super Bowl,
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 11: he was coming out of an elevator with John Clayton,
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 11: you know, who was a friend of both of ours,
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 11: and we recognize each other's voice, and I'm like, you know,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 11: he's like, I'm like a foot and half talleran him.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 11: So we had a big laugh. Like, you know, neither
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 11: one of us envisioned I didn't envision him being a guard.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 11: He didn't think I was a power forward. So you know,
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 11: it is what it is.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: Well, it was it was grat see and you and
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: I got to spend a little time with you on
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: the air, and that was terrific. So what did you
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: think of the Super Bowl. Give us your analysis of
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: what you watched Sunday from the Seahawks and Patriots.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 11: You know, it couldn't have gone more to plan. This
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 11: is exactly what should have happened in the game. Seattle
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 11: was just a better team and the only way that
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 11: they could lose the game, in my opinion, was if
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 11: they screwed it up or if the if the Patriots
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 11: had something up their sleeve. You know, they were able
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 11: to turn the momentum with with a trick play or
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 11: a reverse of some kind and just sort of get
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 11: it going. But to me, there was just this was
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 11: the great year to be the NFC team. I think
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 11: there's a lot of teams that would have beat this
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 11: Patriot team, and it was an unusual year that way.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 11: Seattle wanted Super Bowl. To me, b I've beaten the
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 11: Rams and even the forty nine ers.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 5: When did this season turn for you to where you
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 5: thought this squad was was a Super Bowl contender? Did
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 5: you think at the beginning of the year. Was it
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 5: halfway through where I thought?
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 11: Actually, when they lost to the Rams the first time
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 11: and it had all those turnovers and and almost you know,
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 11: almost won the game. Anyway, I thought, oh that is
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 11: that is an unusual type.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: You have to be really.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 11: Good to have that happen, because I knew the Rams
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 11: were good, so so that would go back to week
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 11: eleven and then I think you really got the feeling
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 11: for sure. There was a period there where they just
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 11: beat the Vikings and the Falcons like they beat them like,
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 11: you know, sixty something to nine over a two week period,
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 11: and I was like, Okay, that's a real team. When
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 11: you when you're blowing out people, that's hard to do.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 11: Like you're blowing out people. That's what the really good
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 11: teams do. I think the five team did that some
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 11: you know, obviously the thirteen and fourteen teams did that.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 11: So that's kind of when you know, when you got that,
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 11: you're leading the league in point differential and you're deep
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 11: into the season and you just crush the bad teams.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're going to be something good.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: Mike sando Er NFL inside of joining us here on Thursday,
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: as he has all football season long, and I know
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: you like putting things in historical perspective, and I like
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: getting your perspective on these things, and so I would
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: just I would offer that nobody in my lifetime has
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: touched for one season. The nineteen eighty five Bears defense.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: I think the Seahawks legion to Boom defense. When you
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: consider how statistically dominated, the dominating they were over four years.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe there's a real great argument that that's
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: the best defense of all time. But for one game,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: or at least for three quarters, considering the stage, have
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: you ever seen a defense play that Well.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 11: Probably not, because it wasn't like they were getting a
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 11: you do sometimes see like if you get a bunch
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 11: of turnovers and pick sixes, it can really get you
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 11: out on you. So they weren't really doing that. They
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 11: were just completely putting a blanket, a wet blanket over
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 11: them and smothering them. And they had no concerns. They're
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 11: kicking field goals. Not that they had fourth and ones
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 11: on the field goal, but they're not even a thought
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 11: of going for it, right, I just put on a
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 11: nundther three. Once they got to nine. It was over
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 11: seventy eight yards through three quarters. Crazy that that may
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 11: be the best in the history of the Super Bowl.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 11: It certainly is this century. I was able to look
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 11: at that, So, yeah, they have to still prove, you know.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 11: I guess the one thing is the Rams did have
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 11: their number the last couple times offensively, so you know,
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 11: that is an interesting component going into next season with
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 11: Stafford coming back and we've heard Letter Williams's coming back,
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 11: a lot of the guys coming back, so you know,
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 11: it's kind of like that eighty five Bear team gave
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 11: up thirty eight to the Dolphins. Remember they I think
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 11: they did. Yeah, they lost thirty eight twenty four to
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 11: the Dolphins, So it doesn't really if they've done it
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 11: twice in the same division. You know, I think that
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 11: was the only time they allowed even more than twenty
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 11: eight points without twenty eight in the openers, so it's
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 11: a different era. The offense's rules are way better. That
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 11: team that eighty five Bears will had ten points in
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 11: the whole playoffs twenty four forty six to ten, and
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 11: so that is a standard by which they are all
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 11: still measured. I think this one can have a chance
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 11: to do what the Pete Carroll defense did, but they
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 11: are older on their defensive front. So that's one area
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 11: where John Schneinder has been great at adding with the
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 11: abrils to Mike Bennett's the uh, you know, DeMarcus Lawrence
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 11: Leonard Williams. They're gonna be on it, and they're gonna
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 11: make get guys that fit. But that's the one area
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 11: that's the key to their team that is a little
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 11: bit older and won't be there in three or four
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 11: years probably the same. So uh, that's just what you
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 11: gotta watch for, you know how they keep fortifying that
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 11: because that is what makes it go the line of scrimmage.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, at this point, obviously it's early to
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 5: start thinking about this time next year.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: But I mean a.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 5: Lot of times, I think most teams feel like once
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 5: they win the Super Bowl, like, well, we're gonna run
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 5: that back. We're gonna do that again. And yet this
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 5: one does feel like they are poised. I mean, they
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 5: got some offseason things they're gonna have to look at
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 5: with like K nine and.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: And some other guys.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 5: But I am I am wondering, from your perspective, how
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 5: how how likely is.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: It it's difficult to win it again?
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 5: But I mean, would you put them as the favorites
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 5: this point to do it next year?
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: I would.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 11: I think they are the betting favorite right now. You know,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 11: I kind of could see next year possibly being Look,
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 11: the Rams will be good again. Let's say the Seahawks.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 11: If the Seahawks were to get there, I could see
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 11: them plan Even a Baltimore would be a cool game.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 11: With Jesse Miner being another you know, kind of harbad disciple,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 11: maybe they get a little bit of a bump this year,
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 11: you know, uh, just mentality wise, and with Lamar Jackson.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 11: I think that that could be a fun type of
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 11: a matchup. But yes, I do like where the Seahawks
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 11: are at. They have to Replacemint Kubiak. I think that
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 11: they will do that. I am very confident in Mike
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 11: McDonald's ability to hold people accountable, hold coaching staffs accountable.
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  Speaker 11: I mean, they made a coaching change of running back
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  Speaker 11: during the season, like and the running back got way
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  Speaker 11: better after that and was the MVP of the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 11: So I love Mike McDonald's accountability factor. Like we I
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  Speaker 11: think we read or saw that he's like, you know,
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  Speaker 11: questions the offensive staff after every game. I love that
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  Speaker 11: when it's coming from a place of accountability, you know,
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  Speaker 11: not just Sometimes you get coaches that are just a
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  Speaker 11: jerk and they burn everybody out and yell at them
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  Speaker 11: and fire them on over the headsets and all of that.
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  Speaker 11: That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about you've
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  Speaker 11: got to be doing your job at a high level
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  Speaker 11: or they're going to get somebody else. And so they
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  Speaker 11: move on from Ryan Grebb, they moved on from the
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  Speaker 11: running back coach. Those are all really good signs to me,
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  Speaker 11: you know, and I think they've really they're way better
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  Speaker 11: in the areas that they were concerned about by the
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  Speaker 11: end of Pete's tenure, you know, which is defensive scheme
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  Speaker 11: and having game plans week tweak and then having accountability
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  Speaker 11: for your staff. He's got it here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, where will Sam Donald begin twenty twenty six, Fall
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty six on Mike Sando's famous order back tiers.
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  Speaker 11: Well, he's got to be in tier two, you know.
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  Speaker 11: I think that, you know, a lot of times I
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  Speaker 11: think he moved up pretty high into tier three, which is,
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  Speaker 11: you know, a solid starting quarterback, but you probably need
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  Speaker 11: some good defense in a running game to win with him,
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  Speaker 11: which they had. But I think he got sixty touchdown
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  Speaker 11: passes the last two years. You've got the big game
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  Speaker 11: against the Rams in the playoffs where they really had
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  Speaker 11: to put it on his arm and his back, and
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  Speaker 11: he stood in there. Took hits and played like a
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  Speaker 11: top tier quarterback. Doesn't mean your top tier, because the
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  Speaker 11: top tier the top the second tier guys play like
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  Speaker 11: a top tier sometimes.
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  Speaker 4: Just not every week.
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  Speaker 11: And so I think that he's clearly going to go
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  Speaker 11: into that realm after now having done it two years
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  Speaker 11: in a row and then putting to rest, you know,
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  Speaker 11: some of the big game playoff concerns that were real
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  Speaker 11: last year, and even when they had lost the Rams
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  Speaker 11: in the first game. You know, I think there's a
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  Speaker 11: real comfort with him. So I think he's solidly going
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  Speaker 11: to be you know, I think he should be threatening
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  Speaker 11: in the top ten towards the top ten of the league.
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  Speaker 1: Mike sand with us.
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  Speaker 2: And so as we head into this offseason, Seahawks not
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  Speaker 2: part of the equation.
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  Speaker 1: Where's the action going to come from?
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  Speaker 2: What NFL city is going to be the most interesting
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  Speaker 2: in all of the NFL this offseason?
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  Speaker 11: For Hot News, Well, I think that we can see
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  Speaker 11: Philly often is so I just think with their offensive
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  Speaker 11: line coach leaving, you know, kind of in a huff,
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  Speaker 11: and they're having a new defensive coordinator, some questions about
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 11: a j Brown, even Jalen Hurts, you know, an owner
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  Speaker 11: who's hard charging a GM, who's h you know, involved
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  Speaker 11: in all areas, including with the coaching staff. I think
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  Speaker 11: them and Minnesota are the two places that I'm most
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 11: interested in watching Minnesota just because it's Darnald thing. You know,
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 11: they won the Super Bowl and they got rid of them.
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  Speaker 11: They don't really have a guy they can count on,
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 11: and they fired their GM. I mean that is a
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  Speaker 11: lot fallout for a team that, by the way, went
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 11: nine and eight. We kind of thought they were bad
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 11: last year, and they kind of were, but they won
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 11: their final five games, so that that's going to be
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 11: a huge storyline place Minnesota all off season.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's been a hell of a year, and we
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  Speaker 2: appreciated you joining us every Thursday here at nine thirty.
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  Speaker 1: A huge part of our football coverage.
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  Speaker 2: We greatly enjoy it and can't wait to do it
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  Speaker 2: again next year. So thank you, Mike Sando for everything.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 11: It was great seeing you guys, and I'm sure we'll
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 11: connect here as news warrants during the off season.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna bug the hell out of you. Oh yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so yeah, don't get.
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  Speaker 2: Comfortable, Yeah, I love yeah, don't head out of don't
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  Speaker 2: head overseas.
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  Speaker 11: No, what do you mean we can do the internet.
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  Speaker 1: That's true.
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  Speaker 11: You take your phone collect you know you guys would
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 11: probably not take it, but I would try.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not doing that.
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  Speaker 11: Collect come out of my check deduction for eight dollars
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  Speaker 11: and seventy six cents.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, take it up with Rich Moore. I'll give you
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  Speaker 1: the address. Mike.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks again, appreciate it, thank you, love it all right,
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