Latest / The Gill Athletics Track and Field Connections Podcast / Bonus: Athletics LLC S3 E46 'Top 3 US Sprint Talents' March 3, 2023
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- 0:08The athletic. It's recording time like closing
- 0:33time to recording time kind of not real.
- 0:36Anyways, welcome to athletic cells, be everyone.
- 0:41Another fun night. Trying out a new method will see
- 0:45how it works. Let's see who breaks the role
- 0:47first. I'll be keeping the score
- 0:49gentleman, but I know. How are you doing, sir?
- 1:05Just make sure it doesn't take you back to the factory, sir.
- 1:09That would be funny. If the Tesla auto-reset, he was
- 1:13like, why are we back in wherever the factory is?
- 1:16I am I in Fremont right now? So lucious, lovely to say your
- 1:21name. How are you tonight, sir?
- 1:23I am, well, you're still little hangover from the weekend but
- 1:27I'm good. Okay.
- 1:30Are you busy this weekend? What happened,
- 1:49what does it say? On the side of the track is like
- 1:51the world's is not Track Town. USA is to the big city.
- 2:04No, but it will always be true as long as like the sign.
- 2:09Well, the championship part of the talent on that track, you
- 2:16going to get ridiculously fast times but I will tell you this,
- 2:18right? Governor.
- 2:21How are you tonight? Okay this is.
- 2:35This is March 20 23 chew. Okay.
- 2:44All right let's get this ball rolling.
- 2:48All right. Oh man, I was given a task, take
- 2:52my job, seriously. Okay.
- 2:54Thank you fired. What I'm volunteering or can I
- 3:03Oh man, last but not least. Okay, spots listening to Aaron
- 3:35Rodgers. Talk about bumping into the,
- 3:37into the bathroom, in the sink. And and there's a, he said, the
- 3:41most dangerous thing in the room was his big hook that was
- 3:43hanging out of the wall because it was to put your towel on, but
- 3:47without the towel on, it was just a big hook.
- 3:52Yeah. All right.
- 3:55Anyhow on to more productive conversations.
- 4:01I mean to say track is back is like the biggest understatement
- 4:05in the world like undersell, like That's like saying you're
- 4:10going to go to? Mastro's, and you end up at
- 4:15Sizzler. It's an undersell, not knocking
- 4:22the Texas toast at Sizzler, but I mean, sort of Lucius was that
- 4:29the SEC me there was? Like, you couldn't even finish
- 4:36the first highlight before the second light highlight happened.
- 4:39And then even the highlights in between the Heats like,
- 4:44Ridiculous song. I felt like I was I was playing
- 4:48ping-pong, I was watching the SEC me in the Big 12.
- 4:51Me life. Yeah, the SEC me was the SEC
- 4:57meet and they still feel like it's the fastest track in the
- 5:03world and whatever we have the SEC meet their kind of acts like
- 5:07the fastest track in the world. So phenomenal performances, you
- 5:12know, I think that for me, the energy in the building I will
- 5:17say that having a What would Leroy and his crew are doing an
- 5:23Auburn it. What Duane and his crew are
- 5:25doing a Tennessee of definitely added to the intensity of the
- 5:30meat when it takes 20 30 to make the women's final, you know.
- 5:36And that 11:32 the same 23 old doesn't make the beat the big
- 5:39league, right? So this tell you, what kind of a
- 5:42competition? A sec was this, year's is pretty
- 5:44phenomenal. So, But I mean, I think we look
- 5:49at highlights. I thought I thought the way
- 5:52let's just start with the men's launcher, right?
- 5:54Cameron Crump and the thing was, you know, if you're in the
- 5:58building, Carjacking never thought camera wasn't going to
- 6:03win, never, you know, he threw the rounds and he was just you
- 6:08telling me what to do and then we hit it.
- 6:12It was like, yep. That's what I was looking for.
- 6:14So and then the young man, I don't know his name.
- 6:18So crayon asked you to tell me what it tells me but the young
- 6:21man that won the triple jump. Wow.
- 6:25Wow. Yeah.
- 6:28Except that was, that was still from a short approach.
- 6:30Yeah he broke out two more steps for y'all.
- 6:32He gave y'all tense time to dude is just yeah he's that guy you
- 6:40know what you just say that we just say that we really need to
- 6:42hope that he stays healthy and that he decides to stick around
- 6:48in college for a while so we get a chance to save often but the
- 6:51young man is absolutely fantastic.
- 6:53Yes Do you didn't Hibbert? Yeah, ever try.
- 6:59We started hearing about his Legend back in Jamaica and you
- 7:07know, 15 16 years old and he goes to World Juniors and lights
- 7:11that on fire in Cali Last Summer.
- 7:17And then I mean that whole process of him getting called to
- 7:20the out to Arkansas and then the short Approach at New Mexico.
- 7:26Mexico. What did he do?
- 7:29What did he just do? Phenomenal, phenomenal.
- 7:33Yeah, the the sport might take care of that part in terms of
- 7:39him staying you know? And unless we start seeing
- 7:46Emphasis on the horizontal is again mean.
- 7:50Yeah. I mean, I think he'll probably
- 7:51be around for a while and I think it's good for the
- 7:56Collegiate game. You know, I was about to say he
- 7:59is the way the Yeah, but there's no Collective
- 8:21connection with Jamaica. Trust me.
- 8:22Here shots fired. Hey, there was also the mint 400
- 8:39was. Rather where the spicy?
- 8:42Yeah, when 4515 gets you 4, right?
- 8:48Tough. Yes, yes and look you know they
- 8:52clearly figured out something Elijah got one yeah you got to
- 8:55give your cure Lord and our staff credit for that.
- 8:57That guy, you know, he's really kind of dialed in right now.
- 9:01Yeah, I mean what I noticed the most about that was, you know,
- 9:08when he goes to the, I call it the the skating part of his
- 9:14race. I mean, it's what he does.
- 9:17I noticed it's a great description.
- 9:19Yeah that was that was pretty
- 9:37awesome. There was a bunch of Chaos in
- 9:40the 4x4, man. I mean good Lord.
- 9:44I've never seen him like that. I gotta take this time since
- 10:54we're on the truncated time clock somebody.
- 10:58Somebody said that the Big 12 was do me last week and Oklahoma
- 11:05State said, hold my beer MSI, some time to address that
- 11:11nonsense, I'm able to stay just you know, he outcoached
- 11:16everybody. You know, he went with them,
- 11:18when everybody wasn't You know, that was a brilliant job by Dave
- 11:21and his crew and deep into the world to they always look at
- 11:25those results heels. Yeah, you know you know you look
- 11:29at the results of the Big 12 meet, it's clear.
- 11:31The day said, I want you guys to pay attention to the Freakshow,
- 11:35then it's going to be the Sprint while I quietly.
- 11:38Stack Up points in places. Where nobody's paying attention.
- 11:41Brilliant. Brilliant move on his car and
- 11:44nonsense to Texas Tech pole in the mid side I mean like really
- 11:49Okay. Literally like standing there,
- 11:53the race starts and everybody you see everybody shoulders do
- 11:57this. Hmm, and you just see the black
- 12:02cross, the line. And I mean, you know, there was
- 12:06a DQ and one raised they the hurdle race was crazy.
- 12:10You know, Terrence did well in the 60 and you're just sitting
- 12:14there like Sure Calvin. Great job dad's lock by just
- 12:20just make it hurt a little bit left me.
- 12:25Yeah, yeah, no, no it was because he was The Mastermind in
- 12:40the oh they forgot that there's a 600-1000 in this meat, mmm.
- 12:46So we're usually in a conference meet.
- 12:49We got the 8-mile, the 3, the 5, and the DMR.
- 12:52I got eight miles, 35 DMR, 600,000 hold my beer.
- 13:01Right, right. Sprinkle in a couple of field
- 13:03event points in there and Bob's your uncle.
- 13:05Yeah, that's what I'm going to say is they had presence in the
- 13:07field events and you know, that's where obviously that's
- 13:11where I saw them. You're like one two three wait
- 13:14what another three and then there was four in the high jump
- 13:18and I'm like you know we've seen some that Queen to 600 and the
- 13:245K 85 points. So an on the ladies side there
- 13:31is a young lady who ran almost every one of those races.
- 13:34Wow. When the six but like she I
- 13:36think she ran. Three or four of those races.
- 13:40And they had a guy who did the same, you know, and that wasn't
- 13:45in the building, but that was John McDonald - Mmm.
- 13:50Yeah, Yeah, II as well. When I, when I first couple
- 13:54years as head coach and we start to get it going and we win the
- 13:59indoor meet and we go outdoors and Arkansas goes, 1, 2 3, 4 5,
- 14:0878 in the 1500. Jolly Donald walked by me.
- 14:13Girls had to take the speed out of the mouse.
- 14:38About a 40 minute span where I was like.
- 14:41Flabbergasted at the fact that in the same heat we Florida guys
- 14:46were in under 46 seconds. Yep.
- 14:48And then Deja Vu, 3, Baylor, guys did it too.
- 14:50And I was like, where are we? What was he?
- 14:56When this never happens and now it's just happening in our chat,
- 15:03that's the Baylor. We remember, right?
- 15:05Yes, that that, that's, that's your.
- 15:07That's your Father's better. Absolutely.
- 15:11Oh and he puts three guys under 46
- 15:23seconds, in the same heat in Oklahoma wins.
- 15:26The 4x4 You gotta love it. Like that's awesome.
- 15:32Yeah. Was he speaking of Hawaii fours,
- 15:34Alabama 301 by the Yeah? From this area from the slow
- 15:39heat. Yeah.
- 15:40Exactly. You know, and and I will be
- 15:43remiss and so, I mean, I don't get in trouble.
- 15:46Jasmine Wars. Pretty good.
- 15:48Yeah. What Jasmine?
- 15:53Jasmine? Very much looks like the Bauman
- 15:55runner-up again. Please stop stop.
- 15:59I mean, I will never stop. This is Jasmine.
- 16:03More got my vote for Bowerman last year.
- 16:06You can't even run. Can't be the runner-up if you're
- 16:09not on the dais exactly. Hey, hey wait.
- 16:14So when you were on the dais this year anyway, Jasmine was
- 16:17phenomenal. And you know I'm not trying to
- 16:20play Homer here but delete the digs.
- 16:22Oh holy cow. So that's what I was just going
- 16:25to say and just took the air out of the building Emily.
- 16:27It. Yeah well, so and Lamar said in
- 16:31our group chat but literally, because obviously I was at the
- 16:33Bates off me and Rasheeda, I can't say her name.
- 16:37I think it's Rashida Rashida and then you know she ran her race
- 16:42and literally as we're going like she crosses the line,
- 16:44everything booing and I and all these things and still blasting
- 16:47all these times and I'm like, she see it running yet?
- 17:04By the way, out to the world that this happened in succession
- 17:1350-33. 50:17 Swizzle 50/50 with in less than 30 minutes.
- 17:23I mean, that is it's unbelievable stuff that we are
- 17:27pushing the envelope. Every single, we haven't gotten
- 17:31to Nationals yet on a, on a faster track.
- 17:39So here's what it, wasn't it out to do so, The key here is the
- 17:47key here. Is that a?
- 17:53Yes. Some from Arkansas girls and
- 18:18obviously in actually some people from old, missed it with
- 18:21the school with Amber when she was at LSU, they were yelling
- 18:25ever, you gotta get out ever, you gotta get out of my head I'm
- 18:27like please get out please. Is back that we neglected to
- 18:57mention last week and minute, 30 second here is the shift move
- 19:04that Michael Norman made. Are announced, let's call it
- 19:08that way. You did announce it at this
- 19:09point that'll be participating. I'll be nicer than that.
- 19:12He's going to be competing in the 100.
- 19:15Did you say participate? I did.
- 19:18They can mean is that you will be a meme this week this week
- 19:26this. Yep.
- 19:26Guys. Get ready.
- 19:27Oh, listen. Eating in the one, he doesn't
- 19:32become a fugazi time travel. I am super duper duper duper
- 19:37excited and rooting for this to go.
- 19:39Well, but I am completely utterly prepared for it, not to
- 19:43not because and not having to have anything to do with him,
- 19:46but like, let's be clear like There are 97 dudes give he has
- 19:53to beat. Yep.
- 19:54Right. These are not figments of
- 19:56people's imaginations. I mean, they're not and they're
- 20:01not old. Yeah, I mean so I think the
- 20:04thing you have to address here is, you know, potentially can
- 20:08Michael be them all? I agree.
- 20:10Okay. I'm not telling you that he
- 20:11will, but I mean other than red, when you talk about overall
- 20:18spread, Talents those two are A Cut Above the Rest of them.
- 20:21Have you talked about the fact that they can run all three?
- 20:24Yes, I don't think there's anybody, you know, anybody with
- 20:27any serious track knowledge, it doesn't believe that if Michael
- 20:30Norma shows up, he's healthy. Yeah, we got show pro-choice.
- 20:35We got to show, you know, and I think, you know, might have been
- 20:38Clyde, didn't mention it, who amongst us is like, you know,
- 20:41it's kind of a brilliant move in the fact that he's doing it in a
- 20:43year where he's got the by the 400.
- 20:45So if he doesn't make it, hey guys, I'll see I'll see you in
- 20:48Budapest, right? Just training.
- 20:51Just a little drinking session. Well, I mean, could we say that
- 20:56Fred has paved the way for this credit Fred has already shown
- 21:00that? It can be done?
- 21:02Yes. Oh man, I think so but if you go
- 21:03back to when he won the Bowerman see people forget when he won
- 21:07the Bowerman and John Anderson was interviewing me?
- 21:09He said in his interview coach Carol said so I was talking to
- 21:13coach Carol uncle's Quincy and we agreed that once I win a
- 21:17world championship. Up, once I win a medal in the 4,
- 21:21I can go down another one and yeah.
- 21:24Okay. And that's okay.
- 21:27Yep. Absolutely Ben.
- 21:30And yeah, my quick two things on this issue is simple.
- 21:34Fred doing it and making it work actually makes this more of a
- 21:41ballsy decision by my Michael. Because now it has to work.
- 21:47If it doesn't work, he will become a joke.
- 21:50Well, it is a president. There's a precedent for it,
- 21:53right? But it has to work, like he
- 21:56can't. Make this move and it not go the
- 22:00way it needs to go. So, I am here for it.
- 22:04I absolutely think it will work and, you know, I'm here for the
- 22:10show. I'm definitely here for the
- 22:12show. I promise, that was an
- 22:14accidental, split slip, of the wording, because I didn't
- 22:18Michael Norman fan since she was in high school.
- 22:21I recruited his best friend. I promise you.
- 22:24I promise you. Look over q.
- 22:36And I said, why are y'all? Why is everybody else recruiting
- 22:40Michael? He looks at me.
- 22:41He starts laughing. He's like, what do you mean?
- 22:43I was like bro, there's no shot. He's not going SC.
- 22:48He just looks like Q. You were you a just starts
- 22:55laughing. I was like, it's some things
- 22:57man. Like look, California kid that
- 22:59wants to be, that wants to be a great quarter, mile Sprinter,
- 23:01and that guy shows up at your house to recruit you, like it's
- 23:04kind of hard to say, no. So it's true, right?
- 23:08Like it's just kind of hard to say no to that, but that
- 23:10particular event that particular kid, that particular person,
- 23:14like, that's just kind of tough. Pause, hold that thought, next
- 23:19topic speaking out sprinters best Sprint talents in US
- 23:26history, top three. Mmm, we Talents.
- 23:32Yes. I like this, best ever.
- 23:40U.s. history. Don't we just go down this just
- 23:46like look at Santa Monica and HSI. and I think also, like, My
- 24:02brain, my brain is going to explode.
- 24:39We can debate this topic for an hour, but that debate is going
- 24:44to educate three-quarters of our audience.
- 24:47Who doesn't know what we know like make, nobody's debating
- 24:51that. It's a great question.
- 24:52It's just just going to make people's Heart, Heads hurts.
- 24:55So we just look just go Around in circles and just name a
- 25:03person and then we'll just keep moving.
- 25:05So I'm going to go ahead and cheat because I can't help
- 25:09myself. Okay, okay, yep three names.
- 25:14MJ Fred Curly Tyson Gay. All right now, learn go old
- 25:21school, Errol Louis, c.k. And I'm going to say this guy
- 25:26cuz I coach them. Dennis Mitchell.
- 25:30And then I'm gonna Circle back to a guy that I don't think it's
- 25:34no credit. We were real whew.
- 25:39Okay I'm going to ask the re-ask the question because I got
- 25:43computer problems more than fine.
- 25:45Best Sprint talents in US history.
- 25:48Top three talents. I'm jumping out front.
- 25:56No order Carl Lewis Quincy W Ariane night.
- 26:01Wow! U.s.
- 26:05Sprint. Talents.
- 26:06See, mmm. Alright Seekers, It's because
- 26:12trust me it was hard for me, not to named Henry Thomas.
- 26:16Yeah, yeah. Okay.
- 26:22Silence D. Yeah, and it's specific to
- 26:30Sprint's you say yes. Yes.
- 26:34And specific to the US. Shit, I'm gonna have to get
- 26:42Glide customers and then and then I'm going to say area 19
- 26:50and Michael Norman. Okay, yeah, and I want to say
- 26:54for the record all of us will agree with this name but none of
- 26:57us said it. Oh be more.
- 27:00Holy It's the only thing that hurts /.
- 27:03He deleted in dip down into the one, you know, but right.
- 27:06But he didn't you read from the to today.
- 27:08Pretty daggone nice. So yeah, look at one point.
- 27:11I'm that dude had the school records of job.
- 27:13John Muir from the hundred to the mile.
- 27:16So pause everybody gets a plus one.
- 27:25Okay, so, you know, so, you know, get, I'm gonna go home run
- 27:28this one because I cheat, because I coach to God.
- 27:30John Capel, don't compel Taco Bell.
- 27:33Because, trust me, it's definitely a few seconds, but he
- 27:38wasn't going to, but he did, it's definitely, he's definitely
- 27:43on my short list. So, you understand why, why?
- 27:46I cheated? Why I said I cheated, right?
- 27:48Yeah, yeah. So I looked up the top.
- 27:51Top three u.s. 100 200 400 combos.
- 27:55Yeah. Yeah.
- 27:58Okay. So but but that's why I have
- 28:04this is the thing that we all tend to forget about.
- 28:08Because of what that man did for a very short period of time.
- 28:14Who is it Xavier Carter? Oh, okay.
- 28:44Well now again I got computer problems which I have now fixed.
- 28:49Hopefully you can see me clearly.
- 28:51Yeah, I did not hear in the re-ask.
- 28:55All I heard was American Sprint specific Talent.
- 29:00That's what I heard. Yes.
- 29:02Okay. So if I'm adding a plus one, I'm
- 29:05gonna step out and say that all of us decided to hear that
- 29:08question with another additive in there that was never said,
- 29:12and I'm going to say Allyson Felix.
- 29:14Because I don't know we've been doing over the next year.
- 29:17Come on man. Hey hey, well the obvious answer
- 29:29he stole it. Okay.
- 29:35Good. And us has had a, I had a Sonia
- 30:10or had. No, I head of Allison, she's the
- 30:12third vessel third best as far as the 1242 for combo.
- 30:18I'm American America. Me, take a gander at Valerie
- 30:22Briscoe hooks. Nope.
- 30:25Well, Chatterjee mayor Marion Marion.
- 30:29Don't count. Stop that.
- 30:31Don't do that Marion and Flo-Jo. Yeah, Flo-Jo sure.
- 30:38Marian. Don't count.
- 30:40I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this. 21:34 please
- 30:52listen 20:34 Marian 1065 2162 49:59 forgot.
- 31:02She was like, hey I'll State the obvious right?
- 31:19Like okay if we're just going to use numbers, I mean clearly a be
- 31:23Steiners making an assault at this list.
- 31:28This is run under 11, right? And I was going to say, am I
- 31:31next is, you know, talitha, because this man took seven
- 31:36fifteen and twenty two mid out of the NCAA meat because 714
- 31:41don't cheat it. And that's the crisper.
- 31:45She's been 14 and 15. This is going to trust me now
- 31:47because somebody watching this show with going to get on B4,
- 31:51not correcting, you. So I'm going to get well.
- 31:55So give me a hug. If we're sticking to one at a
- 31:58time protocol, I'm growing Gwen Torrance in that.
- 32:01So, when Torrance is number four on that list.
- 32:04Yes, breathe. And just this is, you said like
- 32:09a flowery Brisco is right behind.
- 32:12Okay, so I'm going to, he's got to be there somewhere, doesn't
- 32:15she? She's broke.
- 32:17She's actually pretty down there.
- 32:20I'm gonna say this person. I don't know.
- 32:24This person's 400 PB, but I do know that this This person ran
- 32:272008 in at 800 there. Anybody know he's a very short
- 32:34Sprinter. Mmm Nails about this long.
- 32:40What Gail Devers LDL Devers? Wow.
- 32:46Gil was a 300 Hardware in high school, unbelievable like a
- 32:50low-rent 2008 in a meat. But listen, if you, if we're not
- 32:55trying to make this complicated, let's not extrapolate it out to
- 32:57the 8th and I don't know what I'm saying.
- 33:00My point is, I don't know what she's running in the for, but
- 33:03I'm going to assume that it would be good because she ran,
- 33:062008 for sure. Obviously Sydney belongs on this
- 33:11list somewhere. I don't care if she's running
- 33:12100 or not, she Did anyone ever run a quarter?
- 33:4250 108? Yeah, I mean you just see hits
- 33:45he ever. See, everybody thinks this whole
- 33:47real running. The one to enforce a new thing.
- 33:49You know, back in the printer. That is me.
- 33:55You anything from the one today, right?
- 33:57That's just, that's what it meant.
- 35:03You know, we we we very rarely see these days somebody that's
- 35:08runs the one of the 100 wonderful eye for you.
- 35:12Very rarely see that you know and and again I'm going to give
- 35:15a real shout out for this one Julian out for to real people.
- 35:20Oh and she's one of those that will she's 1697.
- 35:25I know she's slick 5200 tissue. Let me send you one eye.
- 35:28Yeah so yeah she's Chi is the real deal.
- 35:33So welcome to the Bowerman committee being confused.
- 35:35Yet again this year. This one's this one's going to
- 35:41be wild. Just get the dais right Eddie.
- 35:44And here again, you're not making it easy for me because
- 35:48you got two Gators again. Hey, I'm not, I'm just doing my
- 35:52job. I have one on the record now
- 35:55publicly saying this. I do not care, I'm not in the
- 36:00day, they will never upset me again because the Bowerman, it's
- 36:03nice, I'm glad it's, you know, but I'm not going to let the
- 36:07opinions of whatever this committee is right or wrong
- 36:11cause confusion in my life. Again, you know, because I, it
- 36:15really was bad for a couple of my athletes last year, they're
- 36:18really close to, so not to let that happen again.
- 36:22That's why you're the leader. Thank you, Dad fly.
- 36:27So last question, you know, we're speaking of these stiffer
- 36:33engendered speed sprinters, is it problematic that the new NCW
- 36:38single-gender schedule has all but eliminated.
- 36:42The natural Sprinter Sprint, double, I'm sorry while still
- 36:46allowing for the mile 3 K 5K Attack.
- 36:50Let's call it. Are you calculate this this is
- 36:54specific to 24 double because you can still double 60.
- 36:59Yeah, you can double 62 but you can't double 64 or, or 24?
- 37:04Yeah, it's calculated is what it is, 100%.
- 37:13I'll go first. I I have a problem with people
- 37:19peeing on my head and trying to tell me it's raining.
- 37:24The regular track meet that you can see at a regular meat or at
- 37:30a conference meet should be able to be duplicated at the national
- 37:34meet. If you can run a for to double
- 37:39at the Ed and SEC meat or Big 12 meat or or any level of
- 37:44conference meet, You should never put together a time
- 37:48schedule. That doesn't allow that to
- 37:50happen at the national meet. Because if someone runs 2029 and
- 37:5845 dead, I want to see that at the national meet.
- 38:02If somebody runs 22 in the middle and 50, 50, 50, freakin
- 38:06point one, I want to see that at the national meat and no offense
- 38:10to whoever was 17th. They don't deserve to be at the
- 38:14national meet just because of the time schedule. so, my issue
- 38:19is If distance coaches are not having to make choices.
- 38:30Between obvious doubles, right? Like it's art look if you're the
- 38:35best, athletes are the only ones were talking about?
- 38:37Because it in order to W have to be phenomenal.
- 38:40But if I got a, if I got somebody that can run the 15 in
- 38:43the three or the 15 and the 5, and I don't have to make a
- 38:47choice. I'm gonna put him in both.
- 38:51But if you, if you have an athlete who clearly can be
- 38:55highly successful in the for to double and it's now made
- 39:01Impossible by time schedule. I can't be the only person that
- 39:05thinks that that's wrong. I think the the single-gender
- 39:16meat. Is the culprit obviously, but
- 39:22more than anything else. I think we are still being held
- 39:28hostage and I mean that could use better terms.
- 39:31But what is it? That we're going to see on TV,
- 39:38we're going to see the mile. We are going to see the 3K.
- 39:43We are going to see the 5K. Right?
- 39:48And I think there's still a general mindset that this is
- 39:53what the public want to see. And I think as long as that's
- 39:57the case, they will continue to push the narrative.
- 40:00That hey, this is what we have going on.
- 40:03This athlete is doing this this athletes doing that.
- 40:06I mean, I cannot wait to see the coverage of the mile.
- 40:12I can't wait, you know, because we're going to see what six
- 40:17Washington athletes, but you can wait, because it's going to be
- 40:21very boring. Okay, we can't.
- 40:50That's right. Yeah, it's on that in to be fair
- 40:53like week. I don't, I don't think we should
- 40:55take away from the fact that whether it's Washington or
- 40:58somebody else has done a great job in the distances that they
- 41:01shouldn't be talked about because they're should.
- 41:04But at the end of the day, like it's not fair.
- 41:08And I think the governor is right.
- 41:10It's the the split gender meat has caused a lot of this.
- 41:14Yeah, I might also think the be utter disrespect of the 200
- 41:19self-exam just because trust me, if they could, they would get
- 41:23rid of the 200, trust me. They were you know it's just
- 41:27nobody's gonna allow that to happen so and I think that it is
- 41:32wrong with it and I think that if you're going to have this
- 41:34little ginger me, can you find a way to allow that?
- 41:37Double, absolutely. Yeah, I mean there's all kind of
- 41:41there's all kinds of ways if you move the phone to me, And you
- 41:46still get going problem. You have now for some people is,
- 41:50is that going to give less time for those other mile. 5, K, 3K
- 41:55D, Mr. I mean, you know mild them are doubles that we talked
- 41:58about. So well if there is there is
- 42:01there is a movement to put the put this back into a situation
- 42:06where you could do the for to double it.
- 42:09Yeah. I mean all you have to do is
- 42:11look at the schedule and you can see clear as day that could very
- 42:13easily be done. There's no.
- 42:16That the Mi has to open the meat.
- 42:18There's no reason that the hurdles have to be dead center.
- 42:21Yeah why are the hurdles dead in the middle?
- 42:24What I mean there's so many ways to move this around that would
- 42:29allow for that double you know I mean yes am I wrong?
- 42:34You can 60 hurdle 60 W but there's nothing natural about
- 42:37that though. That's no.
- 42:39I mean no no one could resist. Resources speaks 33.
- 42:43Circus freaks a year they could do that.
- 42:45Yes. Yeah.
- 42:48I mean just look at the schedule.
- 42:49Make the 400 the first event instead of the mile.
- 42:51Aren't we good? I mean yes.
- 42:55Yes. How hard was that?
- 42:57Yes I'm not even looking at the schedule, right?
- 43:00As you want to be weird stuff, it right.
- 43:02If you want to be weird and open the meet with the mile, you
- 43:04could just be weird and open it with the 400.
- 43:06Like It's Hot. I mean,
- 43:34there's no chance that I would behave myself.
- 43:37However, Now you know I was able to I was I was able to
- 43:43respectfully negotiate is the word.
- 43:48I will use my way into a smarter approach to the Mountain West
- 43:55schedule, right timing and rules.
- 43:59I'm sure I could pull it off, doesn't mean I'm going to hey
- 44:02but you know, maybe I'll get bored.
- 44:06Get me up there you know for me. Me it's this is I can always
- 44:11work it backwards, right? I just want you to imagine that
- 44:15we put together a schedule with a 15-3 k or the 15 5K double
- 44:20wasn't possible. Let's put those two events back
- 44:22to back. Wow.
- 44:25But you do understand, we have this same issue Outdoors, right?
- 44:28Yes, you do, Yes. Actually miss you.
- 44:30Yes. And it's exactly it on purpose
- 44:35and I don't absolutely there. That's why I just have so much
- 44:39approach. Much of a problem with it is,
- 44:41because because, again, if you did the time schedule, in
- 44:45Reverse, right, if you move the balance of power via schedule,
- 44:49to this Prince, you gave a little bit more rest and then
- 44:53you put the mile on the 3K. Go to Milan, the 5K
- 44:56back-to-back, you would get laughed out of a room.
- 44:59Yeah. It's true.
- 45:03Look let's let's, let's all just be understanding of the fact
- 45:06that we know the driving forces behind track and field.
- 45:12And there's a plethora of distance folks out there that
- 45:15sit on these committees, it sit in these rooms.
- 45:17And I mean, here's the fact that during the pandemic, we had to
- 45:21cross country championships in the same academic it.
- 45:24Yep. Yep.
- 45:31Not, no, I'm not. No disrespect anybody that this
- 45:33thing. Nobody was, yes.
- 45:40The second one, But but that but to that point, right?
- 45:45And we can complain and we shall and we will but for all the
- 45:51others out there that are also complaining like that's it's the
- 45:54nature of everything else, right?
- 45:55It's politics. So if it's a big deal to you and
- 45:58you don't like these things, get on the committee's, it's not
- 46:02like you can't get on makes make change from the inside because
- 46:06it's going to keep going. So she is going to love me for
- 46:11saying this. You really want to get something
- 46:14done. Carol Smith Gilbert is the new
- 46:17president. She'd love to talk to you about
- 46:20it. This is true.
- 46:23Okay, I don't know if the second half of that is true, but that,
- 46:26but the first pet, the first part that is true.
- 46:30Because any of us, do not really know as we lovingly call her
- 46:33Carol Gilbert way. She would love to be able to,
- 46:37you know, she's a Sprint person and she loved to be able to
- 46:40create the fact that you can run all three trench coat.
- 46:42Out of their creator problem. So yeah, bring her up.
- 46:59Oh man. Oh okay.
- 47:15I feel like it should automatically land on lucious so
- 47:18I almost did it. I almost did but I expected it
- 47:22to be. No, I'm making you come back.
- 47:24That's why. Okay, I got a plan.
- 47:31Listen Fielding calls and text messages about you.
- 47:39Is he okay? Is there something going on?
- 47:42It There a rift between you two. What did you do?
- 47:44This is, this is my favorite Jimmy.
- 47:46What did you do? Oh, I thought I thought it would
- 47:50be blamed on me. We are too.
- 48:24Very funny that the word weirdest come up three different
- 48:27times in this conversation in the last for us hour, and 40
- 48:30minutes because there is a comment to me today, that there
- 48:35is a certain part of the world that the word weirdo.
- 48:40The adjective weirdo is actually really offensive and to me to me
- 48:46and maybe it's my age, but definitely like my americanism,
- 48:51I was like that's stupid word. Like it's just silly, but
- 48:56there's cultures who think? That's very offensive.
- 48:58And I just think it's so funny and that's a third time.
- 49:00It's been used and well, since you're wasting our clock on
- 49:04this, where are these posers? We're ahead of time.
- 49:07That's why I could do this. Where are these cultures?
- 49:10You across the pond. Oh, really?
- 49:14Yeah. Hmm.
- 49:16Has a my lovely. My newfound friend, mr.
- 49:20GB, when we told him, we said, yeah, they were, they called him
- 49:25a weird. They called them.
- 49:26I'm not getting any pronouns. They called them a weirdo and he
- 49:29was like, Waik. That's like wow that's a real
- 49:34thing like you. So, we're mean, it's not a
- 49:38compliment, I mean, I know, but I don't know.
- 49:42Anyways, anyhow, because here in Texas, it is.
- 49:45I mean, the Austin city, low, motto is keep Texas, Keep
- 49:49Austin, Weird, Keep Austin Weird.
- 49:51Yes, sir, it's Texas. Okay.
- 49:57Anyways, You ready, sir? I'm ready.
- 50:02All right. Would you rather eat a Caesar
- 50:04salad or a house salad house? Okay.
- 50:08What's the dressing honey mustard?
- 50:10Got it. Okay.
- 50:12Would you rather have a letterman jacket or a ring?
- 50:16A ring, a class ring thought it. Would you rather?
- 50:25Would you rule the hammer? I'm actually a closet.
- 50:34Feel like in terms, I'm a closet thrower, it's what I am.
- 50:39If anyone watches my like body language am meat or something.
- 50:44And I happened to glance over. I'm literally throwing the jab
- 50:48Lenore the disc in my mind. Like, I'm, I do that.
- 50:54Somebody help him. All right.
- 51:00Would you rather be the big Clapper at the meat or the big
- 51:04yellow at the knee? Well I will go on record as
- 51:08saying is, you know, having watched the greats, you know,
- 51:13use clap as their tool to give great performances.
- 51:20I mean, one of my biggest achievements on the circuit.
- 51:23I actually stopped the 100 meters in Linz Austria.
- 51:27That year, the the meat where I jumped 865 363, the 100 is about
- 51:33to go off, and I got the back, the folks on the backstretch
- 51:37clapping and eventually the entire Stadium just started and
- 51:41I was like, I can I can die right now.
- 51:44I'm good. I did that.
- 51:47You know. So yes.
- 51:48It's all about clapping thought it would you rather congratulate
- 51:52your athlete with a dab or a high five?
- 52:02Those are my questions. All right.
- 52:05Gentleman. Okay, so the be because I spent
- 52:14some time around you at the track and I do know that you do
- 52:18have a tendency to wander to the other field events.
- 52:21We visit with the long triple jump.
- 52:25Okay, which of them? Would you rather coach?
- 52:28Would you rather coach the hammer or the Jackal?
- 52:36I would have a whole lot more. More fun coach in the Jazz
- 52:40because of everything that it entails and I would probably
- 52:47want to incorporate a little bit more of the Sprint side of
- 52:50things. I would love to see how how that
- 52:53would work, you know, because, you know, obviously there's
- 52:58still an element of control and all of that but boy, I would
- 53:04have a lot of fun with With some really some good, good talent.
- 53:09I'd love to see it. Next questions for the governor.
- 53:23Would you rather? Stay at the DoubleTree for
- 53:31Albuquerque or the Clyde. That's the wrong choice but to
- 53:46say you are going to miss out on the cookies.
- 54:01Okay, sir. What have you robbed from the
- 54:07public? More.
- 54:11The governor as a triple jumper. Or the governor as a high
- 54:17jumper. Whoo, 100% I have robbed the
- 54:24world of a possible world class. Triple jump.
- 54:28Yes, I will. I will, that is, you know, I
- 54:32let, I tend to let the stress kind of roll off of me or
- 54:35whatever, but every now and then, I'm like, man, what, what
- 54:38could I have done in that event? Now, for the record, what is
- 54:43your triple jump pb0? I mean, Here's my issue.
- 54:48And I know this for a fact, if I had done the triple in college,
- 54:53I would have had to have hopped off my right foot.
- 54:56There's no way that I could have hopped off my left, because my
- 55:01left foot did one thing. And one thing only, and that was
- 55:05go to the moon. So I jumped about 47 feet and in
- 55:11college, but in high school, but it was like a 15 foot hop.
- 55:16Like eight foot step and then another 20 put it was like
- 55:21something crazy. That was my trip, you know?
- 55:28So it was his ultimate for the Jazz.
- 55:42You know what we would have had to happen.
- 55:44You would have had to go from from my man, Arkansas's
- 55:46approach. Yeah, they would have gave.
- 55:48That would give cremate steps. Yes.
- 55:51After we 10 years, have progressed out to 10.
- 55:54This is all you get. Make it work.
- 55:57Oh man, that was fun. Well, good job.
- 55:59Good job, everyone. So rounding out the show with
- 56:02heartbeat props, as always, letting everyone know that we
- 56:05appreciate them while they're here to observe their words fall
- 56:08in their ears, and Clyde is raising his hand to go first.
- 56:11So by all means, sir, I want to go first because I'm, I'm going
- 56:15to be like super Homer, Harvey props, go out to one the
- 56:23Mountain West Conference, which if If you pay attention to it
- 56:28and a lot of people don't is in the middle of a very good
- 56:32transition. If not, there is a
- 56:34transformation, it's always been known as a distance power but we
- 56:39have Elite athletes now across the board.
- 56:41And, you know, I think that's because of a lot of changes that
- 56:45have gone on and and I appreciate the growth.
- 56:48But to that point, my heartbeat props are all about my crew,
- 56:54this past weekend, I know we're on a truncated timetable, so I
- 56:59will go as fast as I can. The San Jose State athletes 17
- 57:06championships. Most of which were done by
- 57:09freshman, we set 31 personal best and nine, San Jose State
- 57:18School records and the women's program is relatively new in
- 57:22history. So when you break a program
- 57:25record, are it means a lot, but we took a record away from the
- 57:30legend. That is Tommy Smith this
- 57:32weekend. Christopher coats freshman ran
- 57:3546:27. Indoors this year, just barely
- 57:41eclipsing that record. And I could not be, you know,
- 57:46more excited about the work that I'm able to do with these young
- 57:51people in conjunction with Ernie Clark and the time and
- 57:54dedication that they've put in but Damaris Waters, freshman,
- 57:58772 School record, Mountain West Conference record, meet record
- 58:03in the hurdles, barely missed Nationals, Roman Johnson, In the
- 58:0860 cam Tarver freshman. 2087 Alyssa.
- 58:15And the biggest one, sorry to t.j.
- 58:19Harris. The coach and Amelia song,
- 58:21strong our sophomore, long and triple jumper who jumped 646 in
- 58:27the long jump and 1373 in the triple and is going to Nationals
- 58:32and both events. We were on fire this weekend and
- 58:36I couldn't be prouder of the crew.
- 58:37True. And when you're doing these
- 58:40things and breaking those specific records, I for the
- 58:43first time will respectfully refer to them as speed City.
- 58:47So thank you guys, and I appreciate you.
- 58:53Congrats. I like it'll last you guys
- 58:59online, okay, absolutely, I don't really have anybody in
- 59:05particular, but, you know, again, I just want to give
- 59:12heartbeat props to the athletes that show up on conference
- 59:19weekend. You know, when we're going
- 59:23through the recruiting process we're telling them.
- 59:25Hey, twice a week, twice a year twice a year.
- 59:29I need you to go to the well, I need you two to go above and
- 59:34beyond for your team and I mean what was on display this weekend
- 59:39was absolutely phenomenal. And, you know, it's you Ask
- 59:45yourself when does this. When do we get to a Breaking
- 59:48Point? When do these things?
- 59:50When the these results start coming down and from what I'm
- 59:55saying, it's not happening. Anytime soon.
- 59:58You're going to continue to see these athletes do amazing things
- 1:00:03and so, you know, I want to give heartbeat props to the NCAA
- 1:00:07track and field World want to give Harvey props to the
- 1:00:10coaches, that got them prepared, put on the show and And I can't
- 1:00:15wait to see what happens in in less than less than a week.
- 1:00:21Can't wait. I'm going to give a harpy props
- 1:00:30to this support staff that handles all of the offseason /
- 1:00:42pre-season training for all of, all of my baseball guys, the men
- 1:00:48and women over at Apec and Fort Worth Brian, Willis who Who owns
- 1:00:53and runs the lab, the Lucroy, family, who owns and run.
- 1:01:22Out of their comfort zone and allow themselves to be worked
- 1:01:26and molded and see like Visible Changes seven, 10 pounds of
- 1:01:33muscle game. 15 16 degree increase in hip mobility.
- 1:01:40All strength numbers, go through the roof, all power output
- 1:01:44numbers, go through the roof. And, you know, ability to hit
- 1:01:50and do all the other things. I'm also going through the roof.
- 1:01:54So some people, some of the people I mentioned, watch the
- 1:01:59show, some do not, but I would be remiss as as the agent, if I
- 1:02:06didn't say, you know, thank you and give a huge shout-out to all
- 1:02:10of these wonderful people who helped make my job more
- 1:02:15enjoyable. And And he's here.
- 1:02:19I heard people to go out to choose crew, we're on our third
- 1:02:23rendition of that group. Now, at that point, it is the
- 1:02:26Collegiate group. The decks like to be choose crew
- 1:02:30sometimes too. But, uh, this specifically to
- 1:02:33the Collegiate group, because we stole some points from some
- 1:02:36people who didn't think that, we could still some point and it
- 1:02:39really meant a lot and I for the first time and I think a really
- 1:02:44long time we ended, I ended my group and it's going A point and
- 1:02:50I didn't know it. And I was told and shown the
- 1:02:53results and I literally did a felt.
- 1:02:56Let's call it a 20-meter lap, 20 meter of loud, bang in the pole,
- 1:03:01vault box because I'd come back and Coach.
- 1:03:05I took a quick one, but they all just did big things and, you
- 1:03:09know, we had a little bit of disappointment, but it's a okay
- 1:03:12because it's part of it and we can keep going from there and
- 1:03:15it's just, it's awesome to see the growth just like Mama was
- 1:03:18talking about so, Cool stuff. Choose crew.
- 1:03:27I want to start by saying, I want to thank everybody for all
- 1:03:31the love and support in the last three or four months of my life
- 1:03:37have been pretty, pretty tough. I lost my mom.
- 1:03:41Who was absolutely my biggest cheerleader back in November so
- 1:03:45no, Lamar Darkness did nothing to me.
- 1:03:49Clyde did nothing to me. Really missed being with you
- 1:03:55guys every week. I just needed to take some time
- 1:03:57and, you know, kind of will self care to keep my mind straight.
- 1:04:01So for those of you who thought that someone had wronged me,
- 1:04:05there was no wrong you, I just needed to step away for a little
- 1:04:07bit and take care of some things, but I wanted to get some
- 1:04:10heartbeat props to just the track and field Community as a
- 1:04:14whole and specifically, you know, some people that are close
- 1:04:19to me, you know, starting with big league in the governor and
- 1:04:21Clyde for The work you guys have done this year.
- 1:04:25You know, shout out to my man, every floor, yell for what he's
- 1:04:28doing over at Texas, Lonnie Green, other wonderful things
- 1:04:32he's doing over at Kentucky, Chris Johnson.
- 1:04:37You know, may not get in Kentucky, Chris Johnson
- 1:04:39Arkansas, you know, phenomenal job.
- 1:04:42You know, Tim Hall, continue to quietly.
- 1:04:44Do a great job. You know this, I'm sure I'm
- 1:04:46going to miss somebody. But you know, just looking at
- 1:04:48the results, looking at the comments.
- 1:04:50You know, our man might Johnson Back in the fold and Oakland,
- 1:04:55you know, you know, doing doing some great things.
- 1:04:56And so I just want to go for that Community people out there
- 1:04:59that are doing great things and continue to show great growth in
- 1:05:05the sport. I Rubin at North Carolina state
- 1:05:08has lost his mind. I think he's got 650 76, hard
- 1:05:12roads, you know? And so it's like those kind of
- 1:05:15performances by the young coaches in the community out.
- 1:05:18There is like the governor said, you know, track it feels not
- 1:05:22going away and extremely impressed impressed with all you
- 1:05:26guys and keep up the good work because the old guys got to step
- 1:05:29away sometime. I want to be able to watch some
- 1:05:30good track and field when I do. So, appreciate you guys.
- 1:05:34Thank you. Thank you, thank you.
- 1:05:38Well, This, not this. Speaking of old guys.
- 1:05:43Happy birthday Brooks Johnson. I just saw been absolutely
- 1:05:45today, 89 89. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:05:52So you shout out to the, to the, the absolute Godfather of the
- 1:05:56sport, right? Yes.
- 1:05:58We sure. It's not 98 a birthday Brooks.
- 1:06:04We love. You see you, here you go.
- 1:06:11If we're ready, somebody is going to record that as you
- 1:06:15want. I'm going to be checking his
- 1:06:16Facebook post from here on out. Exactly.
- 1:06:20This is good, he's good, our guy in on threads, good for that.
- 1:06:24So Brooke Knows we love him. Yes, he does.
- 1:06:28Yes, he does know that yet, I love it.
- 1:06:31Well with that said everyone, thank you so much.
- 1:06:34So lucious is great to have you back on the screen tonight.
- 1:06:37I'm sure there are a lot of people who are smiling and
- 1:06:39clapping right now. I I guarantee you so the ease of
- 1:06:43our text messages, thank you. Without further Ado, thank you.
- 1:06:49Everyone have a great quote unquote, rest week before the
- 1:06:53big meet next week and other than that, we'll see each other
- 1:06:55soon. Bye everyone.
- 1:07:28Four Corners wouldn't be here but we're here to stop learning.
- 1:07:32You gotta understand. Rapes gotta catch sauce.
- 1:07:34Show you how to fight for, show us who you are, you lack
- 1:07:37experience. But still you want to talk and
- 1:07:40who was that structure? Your certain kind of small heads
- 1:07:43prevail when the backbone strong, gotta keep it from an
- 1:07:46old boat last long faster fell this cell the session and if you
- 1:07:51don't check yourself and that's wrong, just trying to give you
- 1:07:54the rich asshole. So why you keep cutting us off
- 1:07:57the air? A small, we put it in slow-mo.
- 1:08:00What you fast for it. A small, we put it in slow-mo.
- 1:08:00What you fast for it.