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Ohio State vs. Michigan Preview: Update On Injured Buckeyes · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning from Monday, November twentieth, I'm your host,
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  tom Or. The game against Michigan is in five days. There is a
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  little line movement on that game. Boys, there are a lot to talk
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  about this week. We're going to start very briefly, but talking about a
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  little change in the point spread for that game. Maybe talk a little bit
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  about what that means, and then answer a few of the questions we got
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  from the absolute flood of questions that we got when Tony Gerderman put out a
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  call for listener questions in the middle of the Ohios date Minnesota game. Oh
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  boy, do you guys have questions? We will do our very best to
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  answer them. But Tony, I guess let's start with the movement on the
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  line. Ohio State was a what five and a half point underdog a couple
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  of days ago. That line is sort of shrinking. Where is it now?
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  And what do you think it might mean? Yeah? Right now it's
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  three and a half as we talk and record this, and I wonder if
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  it might continue to be bet down. I think I think it's a response
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  to two things. Obviously, the Jim Harbady lack of Jim Harbaugh on the
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  sideline. You've seen that now in the last two weeks, and things have
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  been difficult for Michigan with Sean Morris head coach. Now he's obviously two to
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  zero, but their two closest games have been the last two weeks. Maybe
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  a coincidence there, Maybe not a coincidence because it's been their two best opponents,
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  I would say as well. But also I think the performance against Maryland
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  and the performance against Penn State has shown with some bounces in either of those
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  games, there could have been a different outcome. There could have been a
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  different victor, if you will, And so I think that has cast some
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  eyes. So maybe Tom, it's one point for the lack of Harbaugh,
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  that's one point for the performance of against Maryland. And that's how you have
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  a line that drops two points in a couple of days. Yeah, I
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  mean, I think the quality of opposition is probably a good chunk of the
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  difference in the last couple of weeks in their performance. But yeah, it
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  is. They have not looked quite as invincible the last two games against Penn
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  State and Gryland as they have in the first nine. So we'll be talking
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  more about that I'm sure a little later on this week, somebody else we're
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  going to be talking about a little later on this week. On Tuesday night,
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  if you are not familiar, we do a live episode on YouTube a
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  YouTube dot com slash Buckey Huddle during the College Football Playoff Select Rankings Update,
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  not the Selection Show yet, the rankings Update. We just started doing that
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  a couple of years ago and people really seem to like it, so we
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  keep doing it. That'll be I believe seven o'clock this week. I think
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  we're done with the one stupid week where they do it at nine pm.
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  So but in advance of that, there's always some kind of movement this time
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  of year, even if everyone wins, it feels like there's always something that
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  shuffles around near the top of the polls. The first question that we got
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  from Jays Bang thirty seven Tony, will Michigan be replaced by Washington this week
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  in the CFP rankings? That would be a heck of a jump if they
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  were, because Washington is number five right now. They got the nice win
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  at Oregon State and not great weather. Going on the road and winning up
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  there is not easy. I don't think they jump Michigan. The question for
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  me is do they jump Florida State? Is this where the Committee starts to
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  move Florida State down because of the loss of Jordan Travis even though they went
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  ahead and thumped Northern Alabama? Is that who They're playing North Alabama? And
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  just obviously losing Jordan Travis is devastating, But I think does the Committee want
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  to see them devastated on the field first? Like, do they need to
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  see them lose before they move them? The Committee has been using Washington's close
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  wins against Stanford and Arizona State to hold them back, and I feel like
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  this should trump The win over Oregon State should trump that. So I do
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  wonder if they jump Florida State. I don't see anybody jumping Michigan at this
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  point. What about you? I don't think anyone jumps Michigan because I think
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  the Committee is gonna kind of look at that and say, this is going
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  to be a situation that's going to resolve itself one way or the other this
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  weekend. You know, either Ohios died or Michigan's going to have a win,
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  and then that team is quite possibly going to go to number one,
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  and then the team does that loses the game is going to fall out of
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  the top four certainly, and maybe it is just the top four of it's
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  close, but I think you might see them fall behind Alabama two potentially.
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  And you know, again there's there's the Washington and Oregon thing is going to
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  resolve itself in another week in the PAC twelve championship game unless Oregon State takes
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  care of Oregon this week. So there's there's a lot of stuff that that
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  is going to change. I do think who was the University of Cincinnati basketball
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  player who broke his leg and like twenty years ago, thirty years ago and
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  right near the end of the season, their their star player. And I'm
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  just blanket on his name. It was Kenyon Martin. That's yeah, yeah,
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  that's it. He broke his leg right before the tournament and the committee
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  moved moved Cincinnati down from a one seed to a two seed or whatever in
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  you know, in you know, recognize, in recognition of the fact that
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  they were not going to have their best player, you know, the playout.
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  The College Football Playoff Comittee has not yet you know, said that they're
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  going to do anything like that with you know, Florida State without Jordan Travis,
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  but that may sort of resolve itself because they do have to play Florida
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  this week. Florida is not very good, but then they're gonna have to
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  play Louisville in the ACC Championship game, and Louisville's good enough that they might
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  just sort of resolve the Florida State situation for the committee. So you know,
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  I honestly, this week, it honestly doesn't matter. Washington, Oregon,
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  Ohio State, and Michigan. Those are situations they're going to resolve themselves.
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  But I'm with you, I don't really expect a lot of movement there.
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  If you if Washington and Florida State both went out and they are three
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  and four, I would expect Washington's strength of schedule and strength of record to
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  overtake them at some point. Point. Yeah, I would think so,
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  because you're you're playing Washington. Would have you know, if Washington it wins
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  in the PAC twelve Championship game, they will have either beaten Oregon State or
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  Oregon whoever wins the Civil War game this weekend. No, it would be
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  Arizona. Sorry, I think Arizona would go if if Oregon loses but either
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  way, you've got another good win. And you know, if especially if
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  it's Oregon, that's another top five win and Florida State doesn't have you know,
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  Louisville is what ninth or something like that, and the rankings currently they're
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  not you know, it would be a much better win for Washington than it
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  would be for for Florida State. And if Oregon wins out, then Oregon,
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  I think, is broadly recognized as one of those teams you don't want
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  to play. I think everyone right now is looking at Florida State and going
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  gimme, gimme, gimme. In terms of who they could be paired up
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  with in the College Football Playoff, I don't know that anyone wants Oregon in
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  that same way. So if Oregon beats Washington, then they will have avenged
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  their only loss. It's a better win than anything Florida State would have.
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  So I am expecting whoever comes out of the Pac twelve to end up ahead
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  of the ACC champion, whether that's Florida State or Louisville. Next one from
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  at dashak It Watson need an update on Michael Hall. Yeah. Ryan Day
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  said after the game against Minnesota he expects to have everybody back, and when
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  he says everybody like my call and anybody else who's a little bit banged up,
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  Tommy Ickinberg obviously expects to have him back. But yeah, we had
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  talked about the way that Ryan Day was not answering or the way he was
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  answering questions about my call. S think I don't have an update on him.
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  That's never a good sign. That's the language he used with Lathan Ransom,
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  who is out for the regular season. That's language he's used in the
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  past, where I don't have good news to give you, so I'm not
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  going to give you any news, or we're still we're still waiting to see
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  what the doctor say after whatever they're doing. So that was the language in
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  the mood a week ago. But now after the Minnesota game and hearing some
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  things, it sounds like he's going to be able to go. I don't
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  know at what strength. And then tom even even if he is able to
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  go, is an eighty five percent my call? Some crazy to say this
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  is that somebody you want out there against Michigan's offensive line, that interior of
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  the offensive line, or would you prefer they're going to go with Tye Hamilton
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  a ton in that game of nose tackle. So then it becomes you know,
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  a hero canoe Jade Mackenzie. Obviously, I think you'd rather go with
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  my call over those guys. If he's eighty five percent, how much can
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  he go? What kind of situational situations do you put him in? That's
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  all going to be figured out, I think this week as they see him
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  practice. But sounds like he's going to play. Yeah, it definitely sounds
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  like he's going to play. And with the way Michigan has lined up with
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  seven offensive linemen, you might need more than four defensive linemen at certain times.
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  That may be something Ohio State looks at this this week, So you
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  may get more snaps for my Hall and everyone else just based on the fact
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  you've got more alignment out there. Well, I'm sure go take a deeper
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  dive into that a little later on in the week. But yeah, it
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  definitely does not seem like my call is a you know, definitely not going
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  to play this weekend situation. He sounds like he's going to play, and
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  it's more of a question of how much. I don't know that he was
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  necessarily as much of a probably maybe could have played, but was being held
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  out for more precautionary reasons, as like a Tommy Eichenberg was on Saturday.
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  But either way, he does sound like they are going to have pretty much
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  everyone back other than Ransom for the Michigan game, which you know that you
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  would like to see both of these teams at full strength. You don't want,
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  you know, you don't want a game of this magnitude, with this
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  much on the line, to be settled by an injury on either side.
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  So well, it sounds it sounds like everyone is in relatively good shape.
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  But we'll we will try to try and fail to get updates on that from
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  Jim Harbaugh and Brian Day in the next couple of days. During their press
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  conferences next time from at Cleveland, Ohio, Cleveland spelled like Moses Cleveland with
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  an A. I don't care how good Mikyle Acord plays next week as as
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  long as he doesn't turn it over. Do you think, Tony, do
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  you agree that? I mean, I think job one is don't turn it
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  over? But is this a the list is don't turn it over and there
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  is no job to or does he need to do a little more than that?
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  No, I think he needs to do a little more than that.
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  It's it's do your job and also don't turn it over. And I'm just
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  looking through the past turnover margins of Michigan games and you have to go back
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  to like two thousand and nine when it was more than a plus two or
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  minus two for Ohio State, and last year it was minus two with pair
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  of interceptions. Twenty twenty one, when Ohio State lost the game again,
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  they were actually plus one in they're getting an interception from I believe Cade McNamara,
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  But I think you can have a quarterback that plays well, and we've
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  seen comic coord throw some interceptions in games this year, and obviously the Ohio
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  State is still one. I think if if he's a consistent if you get
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  a consistent kind of accord out in that game, you can afford an interception
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  if they're scoring and moving the ball and on other drives. If you're not
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  getting inconsistent kind of accord and he doesn't throw any interceptions, that just may
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  mean he's not accurate enough to throw to the defense. They need to be
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  moving the ball, they need to be picking up third downs, need to
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  keep miskins offense off the field when you can, so I think, honestly,
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  I think you can afford an interception as long as he's doing everything else
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  and moving the ball. And because if he's doing everything else and moving the
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  ball, you're also running the ball probably, and if he is, you
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  know, if he played like he did against Minnesota, where he's twenty to
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  thirty for two hundred and ten yards and two touchdowns but also an interception,
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  I don't think that's a losing number. It may not be a winning number,
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  but I think I would rather take that than you know, twelve for
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  twenty five with one hundred and sixty yards and no interceptions, because that's that
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  doesn't move the ball, that's not keeping staying on ahead of the chains,
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  that's not being productive. So I think you could be productive and still give
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  one away, but try not to give two away. Yeah, I'm with
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  you on you know, twenty for thirty for two hundred and fifteen yards,
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  whatever it was in a couple touchdowns. I think that might be you know,
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  if you tell me that is Kyle McCord's exact stat line, I think
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  I'm probably picking Ohio State to win that game. It's not a guarantee that
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  they win that game. But you know they're going to be able to run
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  the ball some This is not you know, they're not going to do the
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  Maryland thing where they're averaging about seventeen inches per rush. They'll be better than
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  that. And you maybe it hit a big one. But with as low
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  scoring as this game is, if you tell me that colem Accord throws two
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  touchdowns has no interceptions, I would really love for you to tell me he
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  does not have a fumble. That would help move the needle on in terms
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  of the likelihood of an Ohio State win one way or another. But it
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  feels like that might that you know that, that feels like a winning performance
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  to me. And if JJ McCarthy puts up that line, that's almost certainly
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  a winning performance to me, because if if they have two touchdowns through the
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  air, you figure Blake Korham gets one on the ground from two yards out
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  at some point, if you get into the load of mid twenties, it
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  feels like you're whoever gets to twenty four to twenty seven points probably winning this
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  game. And so I would I would say, if you know twenty for
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  thirty two hundred fifteen yards two touchdowns, no picks. That is probably a
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  winning stat line for Kyle McCord and likely a winning stat line or very likely
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  a winning stat line for JJ McCarthy. Any any disagreement there, No,
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  you don't have to be fantastic in this game. Just be good enough to
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  keep the ball moving and just be productive, all right. Last one from
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  mattmu one two, three, four, five, six. Hey, that's
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  a combination of my luggage. Remind all those Michigan fans to save those one
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  thousand win signs. They may need to reuse them, you know, Tom.
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  I did see Blake Korum after the game was asked about the one thousand
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  wins and said something to the effect of that'll last forever, something they can't
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  take away from you, something to that effect, And I was like,
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  hmm, I don't know that that's actually true. That is something that may
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  not last forever, and it may be something that they can take away from
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  you. So I, yes, save the signs. Are these like broken
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  clock signs basically that you know, twice a year, twice a decade,
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  it'll be correct. Yeah, save them and use them again, and hey,
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  maybe it's just becomes a tradition, like every every seven years, you
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  pick those signs out. I'm reminded of the great Norm MacDonald at the SP's
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  where he introduced Michigan legend Charles Woodson in the nineteen ninety eight SP's. I
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  believe it would have been and said, you know, you won the Heisman
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  Trophy. That's something no one can ever take away from you. Must of
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  course, you kill your wife and a waiter, and the gasps in the
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  room were audible. Ken Griffey Jr. With one of the all time great
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  reactions. Go find that video. It is tremendous. But you got to
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  remember O. J. Simpson is not the only USC running back to have
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  had his Heisman Trophy taken away. Tony who took away Reggie Bush's Heisman Trophy?
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  Well? The Heisman Trust? Well, yes, okay, who inspired
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  the Heisman Trust. Don't be pedantic with me, sir. The NCAA's rulings
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  against many many things, including the leasting of a house perhaps for the Busch
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  family by some boosters, I believe so. Yeah, so it would not
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  be unpressed. It did for a milestone to be achieved and then rescinded.
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  That's next year US's problem. Next year US is conversation. We're not there
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  yet. We got plenty of stuff to talk about this week. As the
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  Buckeyes and Wolverine's kickoff Saturday at noon in the Big House at ann Arbor,
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  we will be there. We're going to The plan is we're going to be
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  up in ann Arbor on Monday as well. Jim Harbaugh has his press conference
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  at noon. We will be you know, if the Good Lord be a
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  willing and the creek don't rise, we will be up there for that press
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  conference. We'll have interviews with Michigan players and head coach Jim Harbaugh. We're
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  going to try and do a live show. We can't guarantee any of this
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  there. Anytime you're on the road and Kevin's not there to run operations for
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  us, things can get a little dicey. But we are going to be
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  up there have coverage of that for you. And then Tuesday, Ryan Day's
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  press conference and Jim Knowles and some of the Buckeye players. Lot's talk about
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  with those guys as well. To be a busy couple week, a couple
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  of days, busy couple weeks. It's going to feel like a couple weeks
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  this week, but there's going to be a lot to talk about, and
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  a great place to talk about all of it is at Buckeye Huddle dot com.
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  That is where Tony and I make our home, our internet home,
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  try one of these sites, this would be a great time to do it.
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  Try it for thirty days. It's gonna be a lot to talk about
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  this week, potentially a lot to talk about next week, heading into the
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  Big Ten Championship game or heading into a you know, a time of uncertainty
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  and tumult We don't know which one is going to be yet. We will
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  find out Saturday at about three thirty pm. But there's going to be a
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  lot on the line this week. There's a lot on the line in the
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  next month and potential national championship hopes for either Ohio State or Michigan, or
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  potentially both. I guess theoretically, HM, so give us a chance at
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  give us streets to try at buckeyehuddle dot com. Lots of lots of interesting
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  stuff to talk about there all week, all month, and all a year
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  long. That will do it for today. I thank you guys all for
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  joining us. Have a great day. We'll talk to you tomorrow.