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Neuro Skills Coach — What Daily Brain Training Does for Athletes and Executives That Nothing Else Can | Ep. 74 Nathan Biddulph · The Standard

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  SPEAKER_01: Perfect.
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  SPEAKER_01: Good afternoon, team.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the Standard Podcast, where we raise the bar, rebuild the culture, and call out the lies or misconceptions that nobody else will.
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  SPEAKER_01: This isn't motivation.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is a movement.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm Thomas Rowe, alongside my co-host and co-founder of Blueprint to Blue Chip, Aaron Sarles.
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  SPEAKER_01: And today we're sitting down with Nathan.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh oh, Nate, I meant to ask you this off-camera.
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  SPEAKER_01: Bid uh Bidoff?
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  SPEAKER_01: Bidoff, kind of like Rudolph.
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  SPEAKER_01: Bidoff.
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  SPEAKER_01: Binoff.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nathan Bidoff, the red-nosed neuroskills coach here, and the man of the original neuroskills coach.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nathan developed the first of its kind technology free system that helps individuals imprint new skills into their cognitive framework.
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  SPEAKER_01: And before I get any further, I want you, I want our audience to know that Aaron and I have had the privilege of working with Nate for the last week, and we're super excited to see how this unfolds.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I think what we should do, Aaron, at the end, and Nate with this, is we should bring you back on as a follow-up and you can share more stories about your clients, as well as Aaron and I will share our experience.
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  SPEAKER_01: Drawing on his experience as a neuroprogram director of world-renowned organizations, he has spent years coaching some of the highest performing people on the planet, from elite athletes across the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, to CEOs and executives of multi-million dollar corporations.
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  SPEAKER_01: His method, 30 minutes daily training protocols, retain predictive circuits, making peak cognitive performance not just accessible, but rejuvenating and genuinely fun.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nate isn't Nathan isn't selling motivation.
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  SPEAKER_01: He isn't selling mindset hacks.
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  SPEAKER_01: He's working at the levels of the brain itself, changing how it predicts, processes, and performs under pressure.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're diving into the truth behind what it really takes to build identity, discipline, and legacy in sports and in life.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's get into it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nate, thanks so much for joining us.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're super excited to have you join us today.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for having me.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm excited to be here.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right on.
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  SPEAKER_01: Nate, let's start.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're a licensed sport certified occupational therapist, founder of Neuroskills Coaching, and the man who developed the first technology-free system for imprinting new skills deep into cognitive framework.
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  SPEAKER_01: What does raising the standard mean to you and why does this work matter right now, now more than ever?
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, that's a great question.
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  SPEAKER_02: Raising the standard would be just bringing things to a higher level.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think that we don't need gadgets to actually build our brains, processing speed, pattern recognition, impulse control, all these things.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think a lot of what I do is based off of clinical research.
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  SPEAKER_02: I've I've been working, as you said, as an occupational therapist in the clinical world, seeing how to build the brain without technology, without like, you know, virtual reality or different different gadgets.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I think raising the standard would be building the brain in a way that's more natural and and more, you know, just just less gimmicky.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I love it.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I love it.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you went from being an occupational therapist.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh was there an aha moment, a light bulb moment that you said, hey, wait a minute, I want to click this from just the standard occupational therapy to neuroscience.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, the aha moments were when we heard the you know, neuro, you know, because we're working in the neuro world and we hear that, you know, athletes are using it, like Steph Curry for back-to-back MVPs.
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  SPEAKER_02: I had suspicions that Tom Brady was doing neuro as well, but he hadn't come out and said anything about it until I had already been working on my program.
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  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, Brady worked on neurotype stuff in the neuro rehab world, which I was in, his his stuff was influenced by that.
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  SPEAKER_02: And he had been working in it for about 11 years.
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  SPEAKER_02: Steph Curry's still doing it, so it's it's been about 14 years.
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  SPEAKER_02: His also has a lot of sensory stuff.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then it, I was just blessed to actually work in the sensory integration world after the neural rehab world.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I had I've been using the best of both worlds and putting them together.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I think the light bulb moment was okay, these guys are doing it.
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  SPEAKER_02: What are they doing?
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  SPEAKER_02: I I looked into it and I saw that they were, especially well, Steph, he uses a lot of lights and VR and a lot of gadgets.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, well, that's not gonna work for every every athlete, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of wear and tear on the eyes, long-term distance, long, long-term distance vision, but also the the long distance vision, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Like that wears out, and so like a baseball player or a hockey goalie, they're not gonna be able to do the same stuff because I mean Steph Curry has been doing so much of this training, he he wears glasses, he actually wears contacts, but you know, like it's I think it's done some damage on his eyes.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I mean, he's he still plays incredibly well, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, like a lot of players, athletes can't deal with that.
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  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, so I I developed a program that was technology free that that works without damaging the eyes, and and I just realized that wow, this isn't just for baseball players, this is for everyone.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that's kind of a whole nother story.
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  SPEAKER_01: For sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, we're probably gonna get into it.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you've speaking of, you've coached elite athletes across all platforms, NFL, MLB, NHL, MBA, and CEOs of multi-billion dollar corporations.
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  SPEAKER_01: Before we get into the science, uh I want to know what's the high, what do the highest performers in the world have in common when it comes to their brain works and what separates them from everyone else?
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  SPEAKER_02: I think the the highest performers I've seen are the ones that are the most consistent.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's it, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Like we all have incredible brains, incredible brains.
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  SPEAKER_02: And anyone can accomplish anything they want to with their brain.
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  SPEAKER_02: But who's willing to do the work?
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  SPEAKER_02: Who's willing to get that one percent better every day and be consistent and consistently do the work and not just half-heartedly do the work, but be a hundred percent in day in, day out over a long period of time.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
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  SPEAKER_01: I I think it's it's also about getting the reps, too.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm you you're you're clearly a professional, you're well versed in this.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is your method.
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  SPEAKER_01: You could probably tell when athletes or CEOs show up and they haven't done the work, they're bullshitting you, and they kind of just phone it in.
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  SPEAKER_01: I bet you're able to recognize that right away.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right away.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So there you go, Aaron.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do not cut corners.
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  SPEAKER_01: On that one, I'm gonna send it back to Aaron for a second to the brain and method of science.
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  SPEAKER_00: Great.
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  SPEAKER_00: I will not cut corners.
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  SPEAKER_00: None of that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you developed a first of its kind technology-free system that helps individuals imprint new skills deep into their cognitive framework by retaining predictive circuits.
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  SPEAKER_00: Break down for us what are predictive circuits and why does retraining them change everything about how someone performs under pressure?
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  SPEAKER_02: So, what we're doing is we're retraining the subconscious mind to just react, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: And we need to fill it up with the right, you know, patterns in the brain to just react that way.
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  SPEAKER_02: So you you might have heard uh Daniel Kahneman coined system one, system two of the brain.
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  SPEAKER_02: System two is more methodical, analytical.
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  SPEAKER_02: You're you're learning, you're in like Einstein mode, I like to call it.
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  SPEAKER_02: System one would be automatic, just explosive performance mode, the the go mode, play mode, all that.
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  SPEAKER_02: So we are training the brain.
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  SPEAKER_02: We are using routes, and and you know, the brain works in routes, the subconscious mind, and we are actually with the subconscious mind understanding things, and we're we're in system two, understanding new things and what we need to do, and then we train the go mode through different simulations, and uh when you do that, you you infuse it into the brain.
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  SPEAKER_02: So there's kind of the the blueprint of the brain that we're working on, and then we then we infuse it, call it sensory fusion with with sensory and with different other things that we do with the simulation.
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  SPEAKER_02: There's there's there's a lot to it, it's kind of complex.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it's kind of hard to explain in just one yeah, one little clip.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is complex, you know, but the beauty of it to your point is it's not gimmic-gimmicky.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you know, at the heart of it, you're also, I think, hitting on, I think how powerful we are as human beings, our ability to retrain our our brains to perform the way that we want them to.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so with that in mind, and with your occupational therapist perspective, what do you think most performance on your what do you think most coaches and trainers are missing that you're kind of hitting on that nobody else is doing?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, I think what most coaches and trainers do is is wonderful.
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  SPEAKER_02: And and you know, they all have their specific areas.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think what neuro does is it really enhances whatever it is.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I I can't be their hidden coach, I can't be their mental skills coach.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm their neuro coach.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it a hidden coach teaches them the correct mechanics and ways to hit with the neuro.
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  SPEAKER_02: We imprint it deeper into the brain so they can they can uh learn it at a deep level very quickly, and they can like instead of take months or maybe even a year to figure out this technique they're trying to do, they can do it in days or maybe even, you know.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, I've had guys learn new pitches, two new pitches in one day.
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  SPEAKER_02: That was kind of awesome.
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  SPEAKER_02: One guy, but like usually it, you know, so if I'm gonna learn a pitch, it'll take you know, six months to a year.
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  SPEAKER_02: But I've had multiple guys get a new pitch down in under a week.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then with the mental skills coach, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm not, I don't, I don't have all the the answers, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Like it's like a therapist, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: They have the answers for a specific problem.
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  SPEAKER_02: If someone has OCD, I can't, you know, pretend that I'm you know a psychiatrist or a psychologist and and help them.
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  SPEAKER_02: But what they can do is go to a therapist, find out the strategies and techniques that work, and then with the neuro, we can we can organize it and imprint it into the brain and then infuse it into the brain at a at a much higher level.
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  SPEAKER_02: Their techniques, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Again, we need experts, we need expert coaches, and they do wonderful jobs.
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  SPEAKER_02: And and I I I never replace anything.
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  SPEAKER_02: I I feel like neuro enhances things, if that makes sense.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's a great explanation.
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  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, if I was uh let's say you played softball, if I was working on my hitting, I'd be going to my hitting coach, but I'd then be coming to you to help me rewire the neurological pathways so that whatever my coach was giving me feedback on, that that started to become automatic and I wasn't having to think about the corrections.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well said okay.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_00: There we go.
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  SPEAKER_00: Or your other examples are great too.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
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  SPEAKER_00: It does take it deeper.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think you know, it's not you can just have one thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think it's an and.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so with Blueprint Blue Chip, we are built on the belief that identity comes before performance, that who the athlete is is internally or internally drives what they do externally from a neuroscience perspective.
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  SPEAKER_00: What happens to the brain when an athlete's sense of identity is settled versus when it isn't?
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  SPEAKER_00: And how does that show up in performance under pressure?
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  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, a lot a lot of brain science is still the Wild West.
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  SPEAKER_02: So to have a definitive answer for you, I couldn't just tell you what I can tell you is that we try to connect everything.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I think the more things you can connect in your brain, the better.
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  SPEAKER_02: And you're like you said, the identity is huge, and you you want to connect that to everything you're doing.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, as for an example, in in my program, we do connect our core values and our core goals with everything we do.
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  SPEAKER_02: So if I am mapping out my approach at the plate as a baseball hitter and you know, or my plan of attack as a pitcher, I don't want to separate that from who I am.
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  SPEAKER_02: A lot of people separate things, and I think that you miss out on a lot of aha moments in your brain if you separate it.
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  SPEAKER_02: We connect it to who we are, our core values, and I call it the moral compass.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_02: But basically, it's everything's connected, and the more we can connect, the more aha moments we're gonna have with what we're mapping out.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's not separate from who I am, this approach at the plate.
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  SPEAKER_02: Seems like it at first, you're like, oh, that's not really who I am.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's just my approach at the plate.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_02: But the more you can connect it to who you are, the better, right?
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_02: And so, I mean, I think what you guys are doing is great.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_02: So it's uh you know, the whole building someone's character and building someone's identity and core values.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it is so essential to if an athlete is gonna have success or not, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Like it's super important.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I can't teach all the things that you guys give.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I go on on, you know, I'm about to go on another tangent with that, but just love what you guys do.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, thank you so much.
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  SPEAKER_00: And with that, Thomas, you get to take it back over.
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  SPEAKER_01: Awesome.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thanks so much.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now you've worked with elite athletes and elite executives, two very different arenas, similar brain.
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  SPEAKER_01: What transfers directly between coaching an NFL or a pro athlete and coaching a CEO?
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  SPEAKER_01: And what surprised you the most about the similar and cognitive challenge that they actually have?
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, great question.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_02: I haven't thought too much about that, but everyone, you know, everyone is similar in a lot of ways.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I I'd say the similarities are much more than the differences.
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  SPEAKER_02: Everyone's got I think the biggest difference I've noticed lately is that the the athletes need to be in go mode.
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  SPEAKER_02: Remember, I talked about system one, system two, athletes need to just know how to just tap into the flow state and do that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes, an executive needs to tap into the flow state, but they also have a lot of downtime where they can sit and be methodical, be Einstein, and figure out some aha moments and then bring it to the meeting.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_02: But an athlete should be doing that.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_02: You know, you think about Tom Brady, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: He was in front of the whiteboard and figuring out, you know, defenses, and he did spend a lot of time being Einstein, and then but he had to train himself to when you know he gets the foot, the snap happens, he's actually, you know, he's reading the line.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_02: You you watch him, he he's he spends more time reading the line than almost any other quarterback, and you know, he's he's just using that pattern recognition of the brain.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, what am I trying to say is that I don't know, I mean, I think most athletes just think about go mode.
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  SPEAKER_02: They're not thinking about the Einstein mode like Tom Brady is.
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  SPEAKER_02: Tom Brady, I think, is is a good model.
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  SPEAKER_02: If you want to be a great athlete, think about him.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_02: You want to spend more time learning your craft and trying to be the best captain you can possibly be of whatever team sport you're doing.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_02: But then, you know, you've trained yourself to be explosive.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if that answers your question.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_01: It totally does.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_01: It totally does.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I assume that, you know, executives get to where they are because of the discipline, which rolls into in the same discipline that Tom Brady had.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, this is this is a question we get a lot about uh discipline versus motivation.
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  SPEAKER_01: Discipline is one of the four pillars of Blueprint to Blue Chip framework where we talk about discipline over motivation.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_01: The idea that you do consistently, what you do consistently matters more than how you feel on any given day.
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  SPEAKER_01: What does neuroscience actually say about what discipline is more how discipline is more reliable than motivation as a performance foundation?
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  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_02: It's how the brain works, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: You can say you're gonna do something, but it's not until you follow through and do something that your brain changes.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so I that's one thing that a lot of athletes have said that they love about my program that's different than the mental performance.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now we're not trying to make one better or the other.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_02: Mental performance is great, and I can't do all the things that these mental skills coaches are doing.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_02: But one thing that they always point out that they love is that we have consistent a program that they need to do consistently every day to build those skills.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_02: And so it's it's structured, and because of the consistency, they get that 1% better every day in this program.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_01: You're known as the original neuroskills coach, and you built something first, first of its kind, and you built it without technology in a world that runs on technology.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_01: What does it take to stay committed to a system that goes against the current?
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  SPEAKER_01: And what has this taught you about the conviction and character of your clients?
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, great question.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it is so different than all the other neuroprograms, and you know, people are a little skeptical at first that because they're expecting, you know, a gadget that's thousands of dollars.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_02: And I say, no, it's just you and me, and we're gonna be working on your brain together.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_02: And but the reason I think it works so well is because my program is all word of mouth.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_02: It's you know, one major league player to the other saying, This is incredible, this is changing my life.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_02: And so, yeah, what was the second half of your question?
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_01: What does it what does it take to stay committed to a system that goes against the current, right?
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_01: And because I can I would think a lot of people would be like, seriously, dude, you know, we got AI, we got this, we got this, and you want me to do this, right?
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_01: So, but it works.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, before you answer that, Nate, I right now after this question, I'm going to remember in Rocky 4 when you had Drago doing all the technology stuff.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_01: It came down to mind over matter, right?
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_02: No, that's that's a great analogy.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_02: And that's that's like my program is very Rocky-esque, but it's it's what matters for the brain, right?
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_02: Like a lot of this technology doesn't really even matter.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, yeah, there's some things and they help in certain areas, but think about like any technology, it's just so like focused on one thing, right?
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_02: And it's gonna help you with that one thing, and that's cool.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_02: But with what we're doing in my program, it's like it if if that one thing was like one country of of earth with neuro, it's like my program's like the whole earth, you know, it's like everything we can we can we can work on any part of your brain we want to, and we make it very customized and individualized, and there's really no limits to what we can do.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_02: Whereas technology has its limits, it's like helps with that one thing really well.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_02: But like you don't even need like if you if you want to speed up processing speed, you don't need gadgets.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_02: If you want to improve your pattern recognition, like Tom Brady, and understand the patterns of of what you know how the defenses will unfold and how offenses will relate to that.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_02: You don't want technology, you want to sit down and understand at a deeper level.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's the technology is not going to help with that.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_02: So I guess what I'm trying to say is that it's unlimited what we can do with the brain, especially when we map it out and go through simulations, because the brain is it's it knows way more than you think, and especially when you put the right cues into your brain, it can adapt in all the right ways.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_02: It's hard to explain.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_01: There's so much to it, but for sure, for sure.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_01: I wonder if you have a sweet spot.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, every coach or mentor does, you know, one of the things I like to do personally is I like the sweet spot of about a sophomore or junior in high school because they're really adaptive minds at this point, where I think a lot of college and pro athletes kind of set in their ways and they re really have to unwind a lot of, let's just call it bad habits.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_01: What's one truth you wish every athlete, coach, or high performer understood about their brain and what the actual possibility is when you train it the right way, that most people in the space aren't saying?
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I wish that they they knew that there was unlimited potential with their brain, that whatever it is that they're trying to accomplish, they can accomplish.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I mean, there are limits, right?
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_02: You have to be physically able to do whatever it is that you want to do with that sport, right?
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_02: You know, so a little guy might not be an NFL player, but like if if you have the physical capability to Be an NFL player, to be major league player, whatever it is, you can do it.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_02: I uh over the weekend, one of my players made his major league debut and it was amazing.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_02: Last night he he it was in this first homestand, he hit a big home run and and he was player of the game and he was talking and he was like, I have visualized this, I have seen this happen exactly as it's going.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_02: And your brain's incredible.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_02: He said, you know, I I I could see it, I could smell it, and it was just like I I I did that.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_02: And so that was cool that he he talked about his his neurowork, but he's just basically your brain can accomplish anything that you want it to accomplish.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_02: And so was there a second half of that question?
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_01: Just so what's the most why aren't people talking about this?
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_01: Do they not know or do they think it's hocus pocus?
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_02: There are very few that don't believe that the brain, you know, can do this stuff.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_02: They're you know, they're they're really old school.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I would say the first part, right?
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_02: People don't know.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_02: They don't know what they don't know.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_02: That's it.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:09
  unknown: Yeah.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_01: I remember what was uh the I mean, uh my family has battled drug and alcohol abuse and addiction.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_01: I remember going to an AA class, and something that was so profound was the mind I have can't fix the mind I have, right?
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_01: So it's it's almost like you you gotta reprogram the structure.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, and and where you come in is what I tell a lot of people.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, okay, you want to learn how to play piano, you got to get a coach, you got to get a music instructor.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_01: Sure, you can learn a little bit on YouTube or Google, but you you get a same with a foreign language, and that's kind of where you come in, is that you kind of help these athletes and CEOs reframe and understand how powerful it is.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_01: You just gotta tap into it.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_01: And for that, what about these young athletes right now, high school, college, or pros who are working hard physically, but hasn't thought about training their brain with the same intentionality.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_01: Where do they start and what do they do?
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_01: What do you notice first?
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_02: I train them almost the exact same way, right?
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_02: The thing is, is almost all these players that I work with are pros, and they tend to say, Wow, I wish I had started this when I was younger, when I was a high schooler, right?
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_02: Like, because like all this stuff is so foundational.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_02: If you if you start earlier, you're gonna be very glad you did, and you're gonna be extreme, like have a much stronger brain.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's basically like a workout for the brain.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_02: And if you think about Schwarzenegger, right?
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_02: You know, how he started working out, right?
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_02: He's gonna, after a year of working out, he's a teenager, he he has a bigger bicep, he looks pretty good, he, you know, it's okay.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_02: But like 10 years later, a decade later, he's Schwarzenegger and he looks incredible.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_02: And that would be like Tom Brady's and Steph Curry's brain, right?
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_02: Like that's what you want.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_02: And so if you're starting younger and you you just build, build, build, build.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, by the time you're a pro, I mean, you're gonna be setting new records.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_02: And I know there was more to the question.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry, the this is the what was the second half of that question there?
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_01: No, well, where should they start?
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, and what should they notice first?
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_02: Like, like where should they start with their brand?
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, obviously, uh my answer is gonna be reach out to Nate.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, but because there's so many people that, you know, to kind of frame the question is like something I've always worked on with my athletes and my clients was bigger, faster, stronger, right?
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_01: And then when Erin came on board and she was the inception of Blueprint by saying, you know, what about the character when they're off the field?
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_01: What about the character after the game?
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_01: What about who they become after sports?
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, well, that's not my problem.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_01: And she's like, it should be.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_01: And I that was very arrogant of me.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_01: And it's almost arrogant for an athlete to just focus on the physical side of it when we know that so much of it is mental, right?
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, what where should they get started?
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, other than just reaching out to you, are there books or something they could kind of just dip their toes in?
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_01: Or would you just recommend just going full tilt all in?
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's a great question.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, yeah, you can you can check out some books.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, there's there's a book that talks about neuro.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_02: It's called the talent code.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_02: I I had never read it until I was already working with a bunch of pro athletes, and one of the pro athletes told me, hey, you must have read the talent code because this is so similar.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, hmm, no, what is it?
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_02: And I read it and I was like, Oh, yeah, no, this guy understands how the brain works.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_02: This is cool.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_02: And so the talent code's a great book that if you wanted to, you know, just hey, is this is this real?
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_02: Is this is this legit?
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_02: What you read in that book is like all these great players who became top of the world in their sports or whatever, built their brains, right?
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's the common thread.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_02: They built their brains, but but you know, it's it's where where should you start?
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_02: You should probably start with the the character and and and who you are and know who you are and why you're doing what you're doing.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, the that's the foundation, right?
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_02: So your core values and your core identity, I think, are are foundational.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_02: So start there.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_01: Very cool.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_01: Love it.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_01: Love it.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_01: With that one, we're gonna turn it over to Aaron for the signify rapid fire round.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, this is fun.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_00: So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna start the sentence and you're gonna finish it for me, okay?
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_00: Discipline equals success.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_00: Legacy equals family.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_00: The brain under pressure equals resilience.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_02: Peak performance equals the kind of performance you want.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_00: What's one thing that you would never compromise on?
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_02: My integrity.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_00: And if you could put a message on the billboard for every athlete, what would you put on that billboard?
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_02: Stay consistent and stay true to your core values and your core identity and put put God and family first.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_00: That's great.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, that was fast, Thomas.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_00: Back to you.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_01: Alrighty, cool.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks, Aaron.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_01: Nate, before we wrap up, what we'd like to do is turn this over to the to our guests, kind of an open forum.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_01: Is there something we didn't touch on today that you feel like athletes, coaches, or high performers need to hear about cognitive training and what the brain is actually capable of?
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_02: I think we touched on the the main important things.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I hope that they realize that it's unlimited what they can accomplish.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_02: And if they if they work hard enough, they can they can achieve their dreams.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_02: Now, obviously, that takes a lot of work, takes a lot of hard work, but you know, Michael Jordan was cut from his high school basketball team.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_02: Tom Brady, they wouldn't even play him.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_02: He was like the third string when he when he was in high school for his freshman team and stuff.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_02: And so they kind of had a chip on their shoulder and they said, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do it.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna do it.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_02: And so when you have that like, I'm gonna do this mentality, I think you can accomplish anything you really set your mind out to accomplish.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_02: Awesome.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_01: Here's kind of more of a personal question.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_01: Do you ever turn it off?
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_01: And what I mean by that is, you know, like obviously if a dentist is walking, you know, in a social setting, they're constantly looking at somebody's teeth, right?
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_01: And then if you're a chef, it's probably hard to go out to a restaurant because you're always criticizing the food or you know, complimenting the food.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_01: Do you ever look at some athletes and just go, my God, you know, are you able to sit down and relax and just watch a game?
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_01: Or do you go, man, I could do so much with this athlete?
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_01: Or do you look at athletes and go, okay, that guy's doing something neural?
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_02: That's a great question.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I can I can enjoy a game without thinking about it, but at the same time, yeah, they'll do something.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, oh, come on.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_02: Like you know that you can improve that, or maybe he doesn't know.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_02: I would love to talk to that guy.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_02: But no, that's a that's a great question.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_02: I think what what would my wife say?
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_02: She'd probably say, I can't turn it off because I'm not right.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, it's funny.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, you get you get a new car and all of a sudden you see that car on the road wherever you look.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm always seeing the brain.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_02: Everyone's meaning.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_01: That's you know, I don't know if you've been following this.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_01: Is a total side sidebar, and this has nothing.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_01: Aaron and I were talking about this this morning before we got on this call.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you've been following Brendan.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_01: I think his name is Brendan Sorsby, the quarterback at Texas Tech.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, in comparison to Tom Brady, here's a guy that was clearly touted as an incredible college quarterback.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_01: He spent time at Indiana, Cincinnati, transferring to Texas Tech.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_01: And then it came out that he made 9,000 bets over four years.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm thinking, wow, this guy is totally distracted.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_01: You know, can you imagine if you just eliminate all the noise and look to somebody like Tom Brady who's dialed in because there's so many distractions.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, the the best thing that I've ever heard, I'll share this with you.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't know where you fall in the spectrum of faith.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I'm a strong Christian, and something I read recently was God will test you, but the devil will tempt you.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_01: And and I was like, oh my God, that's so profound.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_01: And here you got this guy with so much talent, but he's so distracted with all the noise out there that it's definitely gonna affect his game.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_01: Last question for you before I want, I want and I want people to be able to reach out to you with your social media, et cetera, et cetera.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_01: How do you work with somebody like that when they're just distracted with noise?
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_02: That's a great question.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_02: So it does happen.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_02: And I can think of athletes right now, pro guys and I'll distracted.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_02: And I work with them in baby steps to undistract them, right?
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_02: Um one of the things is I tell guys when they when they get back from the game, because they're playing late at night, be done with your electronics when you get home and bring things to the center and put your core values right there, and you'll actually get better sleep.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_02: And when you get really good sleep, obviously the next day.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_02: Right, you can check your your you know, Instagram when you when you get back when you are awake in the morning, but you don't want that blue light.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_02: You don't want to there's just how do I explain it?
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of guys will be so wired from a game that they can't fall asleep until like 2, 3 a.m.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_02: because you're just like they're wired and they're gonna play video games or whatever, and until then, that's that's not the right approach.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_02: It takes a lot of self-discipline to be able to be like Tom Brady and be like, I'm gonna go to bed at he goes to bed at nine o'clock, right?
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_02: That that's Tom Brady.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_02: Now, these guys are still in the middle of their games at nine o'clock, but like if I can treat, you know, what's nine o'clock for a pro athlete, you know, get into bed by midnight, right?
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_02: Instead of getting to bed at 2 or 3 a.m.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_02: And so yeah, I mean, I don't know if people want to hear that.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_02: Like, oh, if I work with Nathan, I'm gonna have to go to bed on time.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_02: But that's uh that's part of it.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_02: And they find a lot of success because of it.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_02: So consider it.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_02: Consider eliminating distractions and getting great sleep.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no question.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_01: No question.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, this could just go, I mean, now we're just kind of going off down a rabbit hole.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_01: But you know, one of the we're gonna have a former pro athlete, and it's gonna be no surprise once he makes it, and some of our audience will probably figure it out.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_01: He's a big advocate for CBD and THC.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_01: What do what are your what's your experience with that and how do you think that that could ultimately change the the function of someone's brain?
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_02: Well, that's a great question.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I don't know too much about that, except that you know there there's mixed reviews on that.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_02: So I would say that the best thing to do is the natural way, even even with caffeine.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of people are like, hey, you should be doing caffeine because this stuff.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_02: And I've helped a lot of players get off these stimulants and drugs, and they perform much better.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_02: I think the best thing for your brain is great sleep and discipline, great sleep and discipline and and nutrients and things like that are foundational to a higher performing brain, right?
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_02: Einstein didn't use THC to join.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm not trying to put anyone's methods down.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just trying to tell you that from all that I've experienced and all that I've researched and all that I've seen and working with the highest level athletes, the cleaner your brain, the better your brain.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_01: It makes total sense.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_01: I guess the last thing would be like, do you want to be like Einstein or Hunter S.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_01: Thompson?
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_01: You know, Nate, where can people get a hold of you?
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_01: Whether it's a website, social media handles, or an email.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_02: Neuroskillscoach.com.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's my that's my website.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_02: When you go there, you'll be able to get a hold of me if if you want to.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_02: We can set up a Zoom call, whatever it is.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_02: And any way you want to contact me, that's great.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_02: But if you just remember neuroskillscoach.com, you'll find me.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_01: Awesome.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_01: Awesome.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_01: We'll definitely have those in the show notes as well.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_01: Nate, thank you for pulling back the curtain and on what the brain is actually capable of and building, and for building a system that makes peak cognitive performance something anyone can access.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_01: And team, if this conversation hit you, do two things first.
• 36:15
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• 36:18
  SPEAKER_01: An athlete who keeps hitting the same mental ceiling, a coach trying to understand what really happens in the minds of their players under pressure, or a high performer who wants to stop living cognitive behind cognitive potential or leaving it on the table.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_01: And two, visit Nate at neuroskillscoach.com and learn more about Nate's technology-free system for retaining your brain's predictive circuits.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_01: 30 minutes a day, no tech required, real results.
• 36:46
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• 36:47
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• 36:53
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• 36:58
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• 37:04
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• 37:11
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• 37:15
  SPEAKER_01: Talent fades, but truth endures.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_01: Let's raise the bar, rebuild the culture, and become the standard team.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_01: We'll see you next time.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_01: Nate, Aaron, thank you so much.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_01: You guys have a phenomenal day.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_02: You have a great day, too.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.