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The Golden Age with Cindy Cullers PART 2 · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: We are back, so let's die back in.
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  Speaker 3: There was a lot of.
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  Speaker 4: Confusion I think here between Ashley and myself on Mel It.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you just have a picture of him like
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  Speaker 4: that guy is very handsome and he was kind, very
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  Speaker 4: kind to the contestants. But I don't quite understand how
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  Speaker 4: you could feel anything for him because.
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  Speaker 3: Watching it and this is it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to, Oh, I don't want this to
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  Speaker 4: sound like a bashing of Mel, because I don't know Mel.
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  Speaker 4: And that's part of the reason We've said this many
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  Speaker 4: times before. That's part of the reason why I'm so
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  Speaker 4: confused on how anybody fell for him because we don't
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  Speaker 4: know him. And I just watched him on my TVs
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  Speaker 4: for three months, and any conversation we had it did
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  Speaker 4: feel like you were like you or some of the
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  Speaker 4: other ladies were the ones talking and he wasn't really
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  Speaker 4: like giving anything to it. Was was that just the
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  Speaker 4: unfortunate nature of how he came across on our TVs?
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  Speaker 4: Or looking back, was he giving more like was he
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  Speaker 4: actually giving anything to these conversations? I guess what I'm
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  Speaker 4: saying all in is it felt like it was flat,
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  Speaker 4: and as a result, I don't know how anybody got
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  Speaker 4: to know him enough to feel anything for him.
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  Speaker 5: That's very fair. After watching the episodes back, I will
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  Speaker 5: say that I personally was giving Mel grace because he
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  Speaker 5: had to manage a whole bunch of women and I
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  Speaker 5: didn't expect him to engage with me early on what
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  Speaker 5: was and so I just said, that's just part of
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  Speaker 5: what's happening. He's got too many women to manage. But
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  Speaker 5: when it got down to hometowns in particular, and definitely
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  Speaker 5: the exotic date, and he still was an observer and
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  Speaker 5: not a participant, that's when it shifted for me, because
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  Speaker 5: this is this is when you're you have to lean
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  Speaker 5: in or get out. And also for me too, like
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  Speaker 5: if I had just leaned out of it. You know,
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  Speaker 5: we had a lot of women who just weren't leaning
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  Speaker 5: in too. It goes both ways. But I was definitely
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  Speaker 5: leaving leaning in and Mel continued to be continue to
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  Speaker 5: be an observer. I will say that a lot of
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  Speaker 5: his personality you don't really see. You know, here's my condo,
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  Speaker 5: there's a door right there, and on my hometowns. The
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  Speaker 5: producers were in the hallway and they were going to
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  Speaker 5: take some be real of us walking to the elevator,
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  Speaker 5: you know, hand in hand, and they left us inside
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  Speaker 5: were fully miked, and they were all outside getting set up,
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  Speaker 5: and they said, we'll yell to you to come out,
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  Speaker 5: and Mel immediately locks all the dead bolts and flips
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  Speaker 5: the lock on it and we start, you know, kissing
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  Speaker 5: and very flirty and very fun and you know, very personal.
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  Speaker 5: And you know, you don't see that. And I don't
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  Speaker 5: know whether the moments that Mel had were edited or
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  Speaker 5: not usable. It's unfortunate because I think there's more to them.
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  Speaker 5: I think he's a very curious man. He's very intellectual.
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  Speaker 5: I can give you another example if you want more. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: like on our tailgate what you see of my conversation
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  Speaker 5: with Mel is do you like me as much as
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  Speaker 5: I like you? Super flirty and super sweet. But you
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  Speaker 5: didn't hear the twenty or thirty minutes before then. How
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  Speaker 5: we talked about tailgates never made any sense to us
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  Speaker 5: growing up. He was always he was in the stadium.
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  Speaker 5: I was in the stadium. We're warming up for the games.
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  Speaker 5: Of course, now we've been to tailgates, so they make
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  Speaker 5: more sense. The bracelets that he wore in the show,
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  Speaker 5: everybody made fun of, like how his bracelets grew. Those
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  Speaker 5: were from a friend of his who has tailgates in
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  Speaker 5: Michigan before the Michigan Games, and so instead of doing wristbands,
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  Speaker 5: he would issue those bracelets and just that backstory. And
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  Speaker 5: then at the end he's like, what else do you
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  Speaker 5: want to know about me? And that's when they captured
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  Speaker 5: do you like me as much as I like you?
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  Speaker 5: So there's a lot that goes into the conversations that
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  Speaker 5: leads to that. There was another one. I'm gonna give
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  Speaker 5: you one more. It's after Oh my gosh, this was
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  Speaker 5: after the pool party, right, and I'm noticing how hyper
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  Speaker 5: sexualized his behavior was. I was concerned about Nicole, of course,
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  Speaker 5: It's not something that I would do start so openly
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  Speaker 5: kissing in front of everybody. It wasn't just Nicole that
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  Speaker 5: worried us. It was like my man would not allow
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  Speaker 5: access to himself. So that was also in play. And
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  Speaker 5: so my roommates, who I was very close to, we
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  Speaker 5: help each other pick each other's outfits, and we were
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  Speaker 5: early on, so I still had a plethora of gowns
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  Speaker 5: left to p from, and I picked a gown that
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  Speaker 5: was just strapless. It had a big tie, hot pink,
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  Speaker 5: but it didn't show any curves, no cleavage. It's like
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  Speaker 5: eyes up here, buddy. And I wanted to see what
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  Speaker 5: my interaction was with mel when he didn't get that
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  Speaker 5: hubbahabba feeling with me right, and we did. We had
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  Speaker 5: a lovely conversation about his boys, about his ex wife's wedding,
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  Speaker 5: and that's when I asked him about, you know, do
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  Speaker 5: you read any books? What do you like to read?
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  Speaker 5: And we had that conversation about books. So you don't
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  Speaker 5: see the lead up to the books. You just hear
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  Speaker 5: the book's conversation. That's my fault. I should have put
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  Speaker 5: it on Mike, I guess, but I didn't know what
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  Speaker 5: I was doing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and I think too part of that you just
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  Speaker 4: mentioned it like I would have just loved for him.
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  Speaker 3: To talk about how well about.
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  Speaker 4: His ex wife's wedding, like we didn't hear any of
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  Speaker 4: that backstory to him.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think that I think that was out of
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  Speaker 5: privacy for her, and I.
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  Speaker 4: Think that's fair, and I've said that I think that's fair,
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  Speaker 4: But I think part of that is as a result,
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  Speaker 4: it just felt like we had this guy placed on
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  Speaker 4: our TV screens for us to get to know, yet
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  Speaker 4: we couldn't get to know him because there were so
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  Speaker 4: many boundaries to even infiltrate who he is as a human,
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  Speaker 4: what he actually likes, what he believes in, you know,
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  Speaker 4: what happened in his divorce. So I think it was
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  Speaker 4: a mixture of things. I don't I've never thought he
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  Speaker 4: was a bad man. I just think it was a
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  Speaker 4: bad environment for somebody like him to be in as
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  Speaker 4: the lead.
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  Speaker 5: Can I ask you a question, how much of that
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  Speaker 5: do you feel is generational?
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  Speaker 4: I think there's a hesitancy. I think it's generational. You know,
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  Speaker 4: like knowing my father or my father in law, right,
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  Speaker 4: they would be very similar to mel on that show.
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  Speaker 4: They would be nervous, closed off, not knowing how to navigate,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the environment. I also think a little bit
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  Speaker 4: of it is Cindy is his lack of experience, and
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  Speaker 4: that's not his fault. It is coming from the show.
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  Speaker 4: Then going into the lead position, I think that helps
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  Speaker 4: because you know what's needed, what should be said, what
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  Speaker 4: things you're good about saying and not saying. You know,
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  Speaker 4: I know we're going to ask you in a bit
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  Speaker 4: so you don't answer it now, But like if you
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  Speaker 4: became our next Golden Bachelorette, which we sure hope happens,
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  Speaker 4: you're going to be a lot more skilled, know it
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  Speaker 4: or not, because of your time on that show, then
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  Speaker 4: you would have been. If you just came out of
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  Speaker 4: nowhere and we're the lead, you'd just be better at it.
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  Speaker 3: You would talk better, you would say, you.
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  Speaker 4: Would communicate easier, you'd be less nervous, those type of things.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree. I think that even looking at how
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  Speaker 5: he handled hometowns from this season, you know, going into it,
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  Speaker 5: if he had been a participant in Jones season, for example,
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  Speaker 5: he would have understood the magnitude of meeting someone's family
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  Speaker 5: in a different way and may have gotten out of
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  Speaker 5: the observer into the participant role. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I like the way that you put it, observer versus participant.
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  Speaker 2: I also loved your self worth through this entire thing.
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  Speaker 2: Some of the lines that you said, I know someone
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  Speaker 2: will pick me, I hope it's you, or I don't
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  Speaker 2: think I need to convince a man to love me.
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  Speaker 2: I just loved hearing you stand up for yourself and
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  Speaker 2: love yourself throughout the entire thing. And one of the
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  Speaker 2: things that I think was very frustrating as a viewer.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, to a certain degree, the bats are always
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  Speaker 2: has to stay a little more hush hush as to
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  Speaker 2: what his decisions are going to be down the road.
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  Speaker 2: He was very focused on you going to the fantasy suite. Ultimately,
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  Speaker 2: this was something that you decided not to do because
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  Speaker 2: you just felt like it wasn't there or it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: coming fast enough. Just you know, the it's not aus
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  Speaker 2: of your relationship.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks for the clarification, Ashley, Yeah, yeah, So what do
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  Speaker 4: you think he was wanting to get across to.
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  Speaker 2: You in the fantasy suite that it would have been
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  Speaker 2: that big of a deal, or in my opinion, I
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  Speaker 2: think he just was like shocked that you were kind
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  Speaker 2: of leaving him, and his ego needed you to stay
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  Speaker 2: long so that he could kind of make the decision
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  Speaker 2: to dump you.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think he was gonna I don't think he
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  Speaker 5: was going to dump me. And I know there's a
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  Speaker 5: narrative out there that it was always peg and I've
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  Speaker 5: got some examples there to share with you. But you know,
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  Speaker 5: here's what Mail was very his ego was bruised. I
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  Speaker 5: won't say he's hurt, because I think his ego was
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  Speaker 5: definitely bruised, and you could tell that by how he
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  Speaker 5: behaved it after the final rows. Yeah, came out me
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  Speaker 5: pretty harsh. If you look my cheek, that cheek. I
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  Speaker 5: was sitting on the corner of the couch. I was
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  Speaker 5: scouting as far away from him as I could because
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  Speaker 5: he was just very aggressive with me. That was inappropriate
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  Speaker 5: for any reason. But I understand his analogy. I should
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  Speaker 5: stay to the end. But here's the alternative. I didn't
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  Speaker 5: want to get to the point where he offered me
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  Speaker 5: the Fantasy Suite and then I declined it. Maybe that
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  Speaker 5: would have made for better TV, but I was being
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  Speaker 5: a little bit more compassionate for that man for kind
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  Speaker 5: of telling him where I was before he laid that
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  Speaker 5: out on the line. But there was no way you
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  Speaker 5: were going to put me in a compromising permit position
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  Speaker 5: to go to the Fantasy Suite to hear what what
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  Speaker 5: exactly was he going to tell me? If he couldn't
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  Speaker 5: string together a sentence with more than four or five
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  Speaker 5: words about anything, I'm not sure I have much faith
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  Speaker 5: in what he could possibly have told me the Fantasy suite,
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  Speaker 5: And there's a lot at stake. Listen, I'm a mother,
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  Speaker 5: eventually I'm going to be a grandmother. I'm a friend,
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  Speaker 5: I'm a sister, I'm a daughter. Going to the Phantasy suite.
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  Speaker 5: Even if nothing happens, You're going to have to answer
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  Speaker 5: to that the rest of your life. And I don't
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  Speaker 5: take that lightly. And I was just at a point
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  Speaker 5: where I knew he was not the man for me.
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  Speaker 2: I just couldn't stand how he kept saying, you quit
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  Speaker 2: before it was over, Like what, No, she was over
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  Speaker 2: her jury, she ended it. Okay, that was the ending position.
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  Speaker 2: She didn't quit.
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  Speaker 5: We're playing a different game.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you laid everything out there for him, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: and how it ends, Cindy, I'm interested now. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: obviously he does end up with PEG.
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  Speaker 1: But.
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  Speaker 4: He didn't, you know, propose the peg. He gave her
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  Speaker 4: a promise ring. Just let's play role play and say
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  Speaker 4: you were there at the end and he offers you
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  Speaker 4: that promise ring. With all the conversations you had had
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  Speaker 4: that would you have accepted it?
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  Speaker 5: What a joke? No? I mean, I think Carol said
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  Speaker 5: it best. She got a promise ring when she was fourteen,
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  Speaker 5: that I was heading off into my daughter's wedding. I'm
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  Speaker 5: witnessing my beloved become betrothed to a man who stood
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  Speaker 5: up and committed for her. And I've said it several
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  Speaker 5: times before. I'm gonna say it again because I believe
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  Speaker 5: this is one of the biggest principles that we need
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  Speaker 5: to teach each other. There's a big difference between people
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  Speaker 5: who want to share time with you. Why wouldn't they
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  Speaker 5: were fabulous, right, We're fun to be around. I do
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  Speaker 5: a lot of great stuff and everybody would love to
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  Speaker 5: share time with me. But there's a difference between someone
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  Speaker 5: who will share time with me and somebody who will
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  Speaker 5: commit to me. And knowing the difference is going to
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  Speaker 5: save you a ton of heartache and a ton of
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  Speaker 5: confusion years of it. And I put myself in a
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  Speaker 5: position where I've let people just take my time. Nothing
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  Speaker 5: wrong with that. I have another bucket for people that
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  Speaker 5: I date that I just do fun things with. But
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  Speaker 5: if I'm looking for a relationship, you are you are
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  Speaker 5: not going to give this woman a promise ring you
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  Speaker 5: are full of wisdom.
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  Speaker 2: Also, if you had gone to the fantasy suite blah
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  Speaker 2: blah blah blah, and you had gone to that ceremony,
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  Speaker 2: space for the proposal. Would it have been a promise
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  Speaker 2: ring that he gave you, would it have been an
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  Speaker 2: engagement ring? Or would he have left you there? If
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  Speaker 2: you play out the scenario in your head.
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  Speaker 5: Like, are you asking if I had a choice?
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  Speaker 2: No, what do you think it would? How would have
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  Speaker 2: played out if you did decide?
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  Speaker 5: I don't think Mel has any intention on ever getting
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  Speaker 5: married married. No, No, And you know I made and
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  Speaker 5: when I said to him that I would move to California.
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  Speaker 5: It's a little easy because my daughter lives there and
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  Speaker 5: I don't have anybody who lives here in Austin. But
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  Speaker 5: you know, he hasn't made He hadn't thought about what
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  Speaker 5: his life would be like to change in any way
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  Speaker 5: to make room. And it's just like I would not
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  Speaker 5: have made it to that island. I think I would
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  Speaker 5: have been.
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  Speaker 6: Paddling, swimming, snraclings, ubi I would I would find a
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  Speaker 6: way to get off that island, to run from from
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  Speaker 6: Mel as an option for my future, which.
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  Speaker 3: Is another great example of how did this happen?
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  Speaker 4: Right? He and again I don't want and we've done
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  Speaker 4: it over and over, but you know, he says the
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  Speaker 4: things in the interview pre show and you're like, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: this feels like this isn't a fit, right, And then
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  Speaker 4: they had.
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  Speaker 3: To have known. These producers are not dumb. There's there.
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  Speaker 4: They're intelligent people that he didn't want to end up
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  Speaker 4: in a in a marriage at the end of this
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  Speaker 4: like why was this the choice they made? And that's
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  Speaker 4: still confusing to me at this point, But it doesn't
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  Speaker 4: change the fact that you were great and you did,
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  Speaker 4: you know, put your steak in the sand and say
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  Speaker 4: this is who I am, this is what I stand for, this.
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  Speaker 3: Is what I'm going to do and not do.
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  Speaker 4: And ultimately it did end up with you leaving. But
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  Speaker 4: our producer and Ashley and myself are convinced Cindy that
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  Speaker 4: you're not going to be single for long, that they're
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  Speaker 4: going to be people. They probably already are. They've probably
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  Speaker 4: been this way for years searching after you. Are you
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  Speaker 4: out there actively dating? Has there been dates since the show?
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  Speaker 4: I guess is where I'll stop first, and then that's
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  Speaker 4: going to lead me into well, what's next.
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  Speaker 5: I have been entertaining the idea of dating. I've had
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  Speaker 5: a couple of dates. I also believe that this is
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  Speaker 5: being single is a precious Season two and God has
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  Speaker 5: me here. I'm here for a reason, has that church
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  Speaker 5: on Sunday. And there was a gentleman next to me
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  Speaker 5: who was kind of man spreading and I'm like, hey,
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  Speaker 5: stranger over here, let that leg over, and like he
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  Speaker 5: was talking to his family, just kind of in an
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  Speaker 5: outdoor of waite at church. And I remember thinking, these
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  Speaker 5: are the annoying things about being in a relationship I
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  Speaker 5: don't have to deal with. And there is a blessing
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  Speaker 5: about being single and having these choices that I have.
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  Speaker 5: And I don't know that we need to spend our
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  Speaker 5: life fervently seeking a relationship. I think my man is
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  Speaker 5: fervently going to look for me, and I hope he's
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  Speaker 5: he's building a big life and not spending all of
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  Speaker 5: his energy looking for me, and norm will I spend
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  Speaker 5: all my energy looking for him. I believe it. It
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  Speaker 5: will happen if it's mean to If not, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I love a great life. I've got a great family,
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  Speaker 5: great friends, and no, I just I feel very grateful
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  Speaker 5: that your follow up question.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, if obviously this year Paradise.
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  Speaker 4: Invited Golden's down, but then you also have this thing
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  Speaker 4: that we don't know if it's going to exist or not.
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  Speaker 4: As we mentioned the Golden Bachelorette, would you say yes
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  Speaker 4: to both those if those are provided and those opportunities
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  Speaker 4: came in front of you, or do you say no
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  Speaker 4: to both?
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  Speaker 3: Or yes to one no to the other.
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  Speaker 5: I've had a blast with everything I've done with this season.
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  Speaker 5: Everybody has been fantastic. I have had such a blast.
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  Speaker 5: And I started this year twenty twenty five with a
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  Speaker 5: motto just to say yes, right, and I had found
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  Speaker 5: myself in previous years and this there's some more wisdom
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  Speaker 5: for you, this mommy wisdom. They call me Mama Colors
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  Speaker 5: for a reason because I give too much advice. I
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  Speaker 5: started putting that. I started putting things off, like, hey,
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  Speaker 5: do you want to join us? And believe this year
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  Speaker 5: we're taking a family trip. Well it's kind of a
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  Speaker 5: bad time for me. Maybe next year. Hey do you
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  Speaker 5: want to go? Well, I don't know. This weekend's not good.
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  Speaker 5: What about next? I was putting off some fun things
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  Speaker 5: and in January I just made an agreement with the
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  Speaker 5: universe and God to say yes. And that's kind of
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  Speaker 5: where I am. It's led to the most fun things.
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  Speaker 5: This gold and Butscher was a blast and we had
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  Speaker 5: met such great friends and had such a great experience.
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: So I'm just going to continue to say yes. And
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: you know, there's opportunities that are brought to me, there
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: would be a reason for them, and I'm just going
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: to continue to say yes to the universe for what
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: that holds.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: I love that I've done that in phases of my
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: life as well.
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: It is don't do it anymore. Just say yes, man,
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: just big bold yes. Capital.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: When you watch the show back, did you feel that
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: he ended up with the right person, that like Peg,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: is better suited for him, or do you feel like
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: she was the more the choice that perhaps put less
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: pressure on him.
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: I want Meil to be extraordinarily happy. I do. I
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: think that he will end up a different person in
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: a relationship with Peg than he would with me, and
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: I think he could find a happiness with both. But
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: I think that this is this is kind of more
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: of what he's looking for, more like, oh, it doesn't matter,
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: let's just you know, get to know each other. And
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: and so I think this is probably ended up exactly
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: the way it needed to. I know it did for me.
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: This ended up exactly the way it needed to.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: Kay, that's my final question for you is you sit
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: there today you know you're still in the midst of it.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: It is fun that you're getting to know some of
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: the past women from the show and they're amazing.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: And are you happy you did it, I guess is
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: my question.
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely absolutely, this was such a fabulous experience. I'm
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: happy I did it for a lot of reasons, for
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: all those that you mentioned, for the people that I've
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: met along the way, including today. You guys are awesome
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: what you know, amazing souls and spirits I've been able
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: to meet along the way. Had a great time in
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: the mansion. Although I'm really excited about the renovations. We
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: sure need them. But not just that I learned more
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: about myself going through here, going through this process. My
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: kids learned about me. My friends I think see me differently.
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: There's just blessings that pop out all the time that
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: are that are unexpected, and it's been great.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: We love getting to know you more through this interview.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: You've lived up and beyond as to what we thought
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: you were based on TV.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: They're so sweet. Thank you so much.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and goodness, gracious, Cindy, I really hope your story
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: on our TVs is not done. But I also hope
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: you find somebody they find you outside of that show.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: That's my hope.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: It's a pleasure having you here, and we appreciate you,
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: we respect you, and thank you for being who you are.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: This has been the Almost Famous podcast and I've been.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: Been, I've been Ashley, and I've been grateful and let's go.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: That's a first.
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