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283: Greg Sestero - From The Room to Johnny Suede · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 5: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 6: I'm Brian and with me this week is Wes, who
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  Speaker 6: you will remember from.
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  Speaker 7: Our recent River City Film Festival episode.
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  Speaker 8: River City Festival of Films.
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  Speaker 3: It's a very long title.
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  Speaker 9: Which went really well, I have to say.
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  Speaker 5: Very well. We were super pleased, and we'll definitely be
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  Speaker 5: back next year.
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  Speaker 10: Very cool.
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  Speaker 9: And we were talking with you about some of your
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  Speaker 9: upcoming events, which you put this together. So on that note,
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  Speaker 9: I'll let you introduce our other guests.
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  Speaker 5: Okay. With me is one of my colleagues, my boss,
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  Speaker 5: Brian Lashbrook. He is the IT manager, graphic designer, artist,
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  Speaker 5: and all-around good guy for the Davis County Public Library.
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  Speaker 5: You were overly flattered, right?
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  Speaker 10: You didn't pay to say that, right?
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  Speaker 1: Right, right.
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  Speaker 5: We have our salary evaluations coming up, so I had
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  Speaker 5: to add a little bit. And to my left, which
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  Speaker 5: I guess it doesn't matter since you're listening to this,
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  Speaker 5: is the man of the hour, Mr. Greg Sestero, who
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  Speaker 5: you will know from The Room.
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  Speaker 11: Glad to be here. Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 5: No problem. I'm glad to have you. And we are
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  Speaker 5: hosting a screening, which I'm in plug mode still. I've
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  Speaker 5: been doing that on Facebook constantly for the past month.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, we're having a screening of the room tonight,
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  Speaker 5: and Greg's going to do a disaster artist presentation. So
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  Speaker 5: it should be awesome.
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  Speaker 9: Well, I usually try to get in relatively early with
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  Speaker 9: our guests and see what led them down their path.
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  Speaker 9: Were you like a kid that got into movies and
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  Speaker 9: performing when you were young?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, I was interested in movies from a very young age.
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  Speaker 11: You know, the whole Star Wars thing.
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  Speaker 1: I was there.
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  Speaker 11: Randomly, I saw a movie. I saw Home Alone, of
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  Speaker 11: all movies, which is kind of a weird one to
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  Speaker 11: propel you. into pursuing a movie career, but I wrote
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  Speaker 11: a screenplay at the age of 12, a sequel to
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  Speaker 11: Home Alone, and included a part for myself.
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  Speaker 9: Nice.
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  Speaker 11: And I sent it to John Hughes, and I really
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  Speaker 11: thought the movie was going to get made. Ultimately, it didn't,
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  Speaker 11: but I got a letter back from Hughes saying that
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  Speaker 11: he really admired that kind of effort and to keep going,
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  Speaker 11: and so that was kind of the start for me.
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  Speaker 11: Very cool.
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  Speaker 9: And then I guess what... Did you just wait until
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  Speaker 9: you got 18, or did you start doing plays?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, a few years later, I actually got into doing
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  Speaker 11: print work. In my senior year of high school, I
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  Speaker 11: went to Italy. When I came back from that is
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  Speaker 11: when I tried to start breaking in. I got some
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  Speaker 11: bit parts in movies and TV shows, and that ultimately
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  Speaker 11: led me to meeting Tommy Wiseau in an acting class
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  Speaker 11: in San Francisco.
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  Speaker 9: And was that... Before or after, I was going to
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  Speaker 9: say that the role they really probably all, you know,
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  Speaker 9: from is retro puppet master, which I was, I mean,
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  Speaker 9: I bring up because I actually remember watching all of
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  Speaker 9: those full moon feature kind of things. I didn't know
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  Speaker 9: how did that come about? Was that one of those?
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  Speaker 11: It was, I moved to LA shortly after, um, meeting
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  Speaker 11: Tommy and like my fourth audition in LA, I was
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  Speaker 11: just going out for whatever I could. And that was
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  Speaker 11: like my fourth audition. I ended up getting it. So
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  Speaker 11: I didn't, You know, wow, okay, I got a lead
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  Speaker 11: in a movie. Let's see where this goes.
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  Speaker 9: My question is, where did they shoot it?
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  Speaker 11: In Bucharest, Romania.
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  Speaker 9: That's what I was going to say. I was like,
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  Speaker 9: he was notorious for shooting in Romania.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: They got a really good deal, I'm assuming.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, and it was like 10 degrees below zero. Wow.
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  Speaker 5: Our director here at the library is a big fan
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  Speaker 5: of that movie, too.
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  Speaker 9: It's, yeah. That whole series is pretty fun. Like, he,
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  Speaker 9: I don't know, they were just sort of banking on
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  Speaker 9: that straight-to-VHS thing that had sort of just kicked in
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  Speaker 9: at that point.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, that's right. I mean, I enjoyed making it. It
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  Speaker 11: was kind of my first real lead in a movie,
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  Speaker 11: and it was fun being over there and shooting it.
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  Speaker 11: I wasn't familiar with the series, but, you know, it
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  Speaker 11: was a role that I figured would hopefully lead to
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  Speaker 11: something else, or at least get you a real.
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  Speaker 9: I think a lot of people used that as a
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  Speaker 9: stepping stone. But he had some pretty, you know, he
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  Speaker 9: had Lance Hendrickson in some of his, and he had,
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  Speaker 9: you know, he had... several other pretty big stars.
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  Speaker 6: So it's, yeah.
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  Speaker 9: But any weird Romanian stories? I would think there has
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  Speaker 9: to be something weird.
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  Speaker 11: Going on off camera. Yeah, well, going to the set
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  Speaker 11: one day, there was a lot of wild dogs running around.
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  Speaker 11: There were, I mean, it was, you know, 10 degrees
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  Speaker 11: below zero. It was freezing, and you had kids wearing
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  Speaker 11: very little clothes begging in the streets. So it was
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  Speaker 11: kind of so a little bit of everything there.
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  Speaker 10: Really?
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  Speaker 4: Is that the The time was that after the fall.
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  Speaker 10: Of the wall, I guess.
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  Speaker 11: It was 98, I think so.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Ten years ago. Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: I'm assuming that's what opened the door.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Because I think so many of his movies were Romanian.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: During that time, they were shooting everything over there. Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Which I still think a lot of indie budget stuff
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  Speaker 9: goes there because they just, the deals that they're throwing
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  Speaker 9: at them, I think everything is so cheap, probably because
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  Speaker 9: there's kids baking in the stream.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: It's weird.
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  Speaker 5: Decisions like that are so weird when you find out
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  Speaker 5: where things are really shot at. A lot of the
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  Speaker 5: Marvel movies are shot in Cleveland. It's crazy to see
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  Speaker 5: that passed off as New York successfully.
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  Speaker 9: Well, I guess you mentioned Tommy. What were your thoughts
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  Speaker 9: as you got into that class that first time and
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  Speaker 9: met that guy?
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  Speaker 11: I had taken some acting classes, so I had kind
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  Speaker 11: of seen people go up, and for the most part
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  Speaker 11: they were nervous to perform. I was nervous to perform.
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  Speaker 11: We were all kind of finding our way. And he
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  Speaker 11: would just go up there and just attack. He would
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  Speaker 11: obliterate every scene he was in. Every monologue he was
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  Speaker 11: in would just be, everyone would be scratching their head,
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  Speaker 11: what did I just watch? And the teacher would kind
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  Speaker 11: of try to approach him lightly and then he would
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  Speaker 11: fight with the teacher. So one time he did this,
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  Speaker 11: he reformed a scene from Streetcar Named Desire and it
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  Speaker 11: was just mesmerizingly terrible. And I said, okay, I gotta
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  Speaker 11: find out who this guy is. And I had just
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  Speaker 11: gotten close to getting a role in a movie that
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  Speaker 11: was going to be shot in the Bay Area, and
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  Speaker 11: I thought that would be kind of like a, you know,
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  Speaker 11: a small break, and I ended up getting in. So
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  Speaker 11: I was at rock bottom, and I said, you know what,
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  Speaker 11: I'll just approach this guy and do a scene with him.
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  Speaker 11: And we just kind of, from then on, started this
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  Speaker 11: very strange friendship.
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  Speaker 9: At the time, were you, I don't know, he's such
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  Speaker 9: a strange character. I mean, you know better than most.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, did you immediately go, where are you from?
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  Speaker 9: That accent is so unusual, I've yet to figure out what,
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  Speaker 9: What is going on?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, it's funny because when I recorded the audio book,
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  Speaker 11: the reviewer said that it was one of the most
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  Speaker 11: bizarre accents, that it was like a Russian and French accent.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's not like it's one at all.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, but really when I met him, I just kind
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  Speaker 11: of let him run the show. I didn't really pry
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  Speaker 11: too much because I knew early on if I asked
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  Speaker 11: a few questions, I wasn't going to get much. So
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  Speaker 11: I just kind of got on the roller coaster and
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  Speaker 11: just accepted where it was going to go.
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  Speaker 9: And how ambitious was he at that early on?
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  Speaker 11: Um he was always he was very positive at that
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  Speaker 11: point um and once i kind of moved to la
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  Speaker 11: and started kind of you know i got that retro
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  Speaker 11: puppet master and got a few things that's when he
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  Speaker 11: felt like he was going to move to la and
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  Speaker 11: and try his thing and when that didn't really pan
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  Speaker 11: out that's when he was really wanting to take matters.
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  Speaker 9: Into his own hands so he was already working on
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  Speaker 9: the screenplay.
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  Speaker 11: You think at that point Not that I know of.
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  Speaker 11: I know he started working on it when we were roommates.
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  Speaker 11: He started writing the movie.
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  Speaker 9: So as it unfolded, you were still not necessarily wanting
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  Speaker 9: to be involved in the acting end of it?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, I figured I would just kind of help him
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  Speaker 11: make the movie, kind of put it together, and then
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  Speaker 11: I would run away as fast as I could.
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  Speaker 10: Write another name on it, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I....
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  Speaker 11: Even then, though, it's so hard to get your movie seen.
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  Speaker 11: There's so many good movies that don't have any distribution.
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  Speaker 11: So I figured when I ended up being in it,
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  Speaker 11: I figured nobody was going to really see it anyway.
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  Speaker 9: And that's true of so many movies. It hit a
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  Speaker 9: weird lottery. There's so many that never get distribution, never
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  Speaker 9: get picked up on, get seen outside of a film
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  Speaker 9: fest or something.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, you would do anything for your movie to actually
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  Speaker 11: get seen. But this one, I thought there was no chance.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 10: It's like the most successful vanity project ever.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah. One reviewer said it was a vanity project gone
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  Speaker 11: horribly wrong.
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  Speaker 9: So, I mean, as you're watching it come together, I mean,
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  Speaker 9: do you just sort of like let him run with
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  Speaker 9: it or do you watch it?
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  Speaker 6: To be like, Tommy, you really want to do that?
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  Speaker 9: You know, like, you're seeing some of these things unfold.
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  Speaker 11: It was kind of fun just letting him run with it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: Because he really was into it and really had this vision,
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  Speaker 11: and I felt like that was the best way to
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  Speaker 11: go about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: So I guess, how far was it before you started seeing,
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  Speaker 9: because I mean, I assume it opened and didn't do well,
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  Speaker 9: that first wave, it had that, you know, it doesn't
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  Speaker 9: get to be the cult thing until it doesn't work
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  Speaker 9: another way. It's the same thing Rocky Horror went through.
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  Speaker 9: It was just like it had a year of nothing,
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  Speaker 9: and then someone else discovered it, and it became this
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  Speaker 9: whole new thing.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, it didn't really, it was in a few theaters
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  Speaker 11: for a couple weeks because the prerequisite to have A
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  Speaker 11: film submitted for an Academy Award. It had to play
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  Speaker 11: in theaters, I guess. And so Tommy.
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  Speaker 9: Tommy was thoroughly convinced.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, so he had to... He followed... Yeah, he followed
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  Speaker 11: the guidelines. And I don't think anybody really showed up
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  Speaker 11: to see it outside of a few college students that
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  Speaker 11: had peeked in there and couldn't believe what they saw.
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  Speaker 11: And they invited friends and got them in for free.
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  Speaker 5: It's like $ 1, 900 in the first week.
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  Speaker 11: And I think it was all from those kids. I
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  Speaker 11: don't think anybody showed up.
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  Speaker 5: So....
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  Speaker 11: So it kind of started from there, and then a
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  Speaker 11: little over half a year later, you had college kids
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  Speaker 11: showing up and kind of laughing with it, and then
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  Speaker 11: it just kind of became an L.A. thing for a
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  Speaker 11: few years, and then a writer from Entertainment Weekly came
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  Speaker 11: to town and saw a screening of it, and he
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  Speaker 11: couldn't believe what he saw. So he wrote an article,
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  Speaker 11: and then ever since then, it's kind of started to
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  Speaker 11: go to New York, and then London, and it's just
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  Speaker 11: kind of taken off from there.
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  Speaker 9: So what was your initial reaction to it? go with
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  Speaker 9: your original thought and run away from it? I mean,
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  Speaker 9: now you've gotten to the point where it's okay and
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  Speaker 9: you don't mind it, but was there that first reaction of, oh, God,
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  Speaker 9: this is taking off and I didn't really want it to?
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  Speaker 11: Well, for me, it was just kind of funny for
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  Speaker 11: people to experience the movie because when we finished it,
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  Speaker 11: I had a rough cut and I showed it to
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  Speaker 11: family and friends, and they said we had so much
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  Speaker 11: fun with it, and we kept rewinding, pausing, laughing, so I...
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  Speaker 11: kind of was tempted I wanted other people to see
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  Speaker 11: it you know we had this kind of fantasy about
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  Speaker 11: having a packed house waiting for the next Star Wars
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  Speaker 11: and then turning this movie on and seeing people's reactions
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  Speaker 11: so it was sort of like a sick fantasy to
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  Speaker 11: have a packed house watch this movie.
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  Speaker 9: We should do that with episode 7 there was a.
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  Speaker 5: Thing did you guys see with the Guardians of the
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  Speaker 5: Galaxy what happened there was a theater I forgot where
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  Speaker 5: everybody showed up to see Guardians of the Galaxy but
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  Speaker 5: by some sort of mistake they ended up showing like
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  Speaker 5: that animated owl movie the guardians of gahool or whatever
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  Speaker 5: like i don't know if some mix-up happened with the
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  Speaker 5: film chemistry.
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  Speaker 9: That's a pretty big mix-up.
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  Speaker 11: Um but anyway so when i started seeing these kids
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  Speaker 11: watch it i was i was i wanted to ask
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  Speaker 11: them what do they think of the movie so i
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  Speaker 11: at that point i was just having fun with it
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  Speaker 11: it's not it's not a movie you can take seriously
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  Speaker 11: especially for me i think anybody that watches the film
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  Speaker 11: they can see i really kind of phoned in or
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  Speaker 11: mailed in whatever my part of that Wesley.
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  Speaker 10: Let me borrow his copy, and I watched it alone, which.
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  Speaker 9: Is a mistake.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah. You need to have at least five friends of you.
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  Speaker 11: At one point in one theater, I think it was
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  Speaker 11: in Arizona, when he shoots himself, he gets a standing ovation.
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  Speaker 10: It was one of the show's riff tracks. The best
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  Speaker 10: line is, Oh, hi, Gordon.
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  Speaker 9: Well, I was just going to say, you're, even at
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  Speaker 9: that point, not taking it seriously, but was Tommy still? Like,
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  Speaker 9: he still seemed like, for a very long time, he
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  Speaker 9: was super.
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  Speaker 11: Oh, he's still serious.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's like, he now, I think, kind of had
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  Speaker 9: to adjust his take because he knows how it's seen,
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  Speaker 9: but how long was it?
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  Speaker 11: He still feels like it's a great movie.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 11: He's always felt that way. You know, I think he
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  Speaker 11: got some advice from someone in the industry that he
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  Speaker 11: valued their opinion, and so he tacked on the experience
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  Speaker 11: this quirky new black comedy kind of later on but
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  Speaker 11: he still believes it's a great dramatic film well and.
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  Speaker 9: Then what point did you start seeing you wanted to
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  Speaker 9: document this or tell your thoughts on it which which
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  Speaker 9: eventually became the book.
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  Speaker 11: Um well the story was so ingrained it was such
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  Speaker 11: a surreal experience and i had told stories to people
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  Speaker 11: about it and um and they always just kind of
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  Speaker 11: wanted more. And then I felt like when the movie,
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  Speaker 11: there was an audience for the movie now and people
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  Speaker 11: actually were watching it. I always felt like the story
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  Speaker 11: behind it was even more amazing. You know, it was
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  Speaker 11: even more baffling and, and, um, I thought it was
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  Speaker 11: a great chance to kind of get to the root
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  Speaker 11: of what this whole thing's about. And I thought there
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  Speaker 11: was a kind of some interesting points on, you know,
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  Speaker 11: the American dream and Tommy's journey and this unlikely friendship. So,
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  Speaker 11: It just kind of came together over the years of
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  Speaker 11: touring with the movie and kind of seeing the crowd
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  Speaker 11: and basing it on their questions.
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  Speaker 9: And were you at any point considering making it into
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  Speaker 9: your version of a movie, which now is happening anyway?
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  Speaker 9: But I was like, did you ever think of making
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  Speaker 9: it like a documentary at some point?
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  Speaker 11: I always kind of saw it as like an Ed
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  Speaker 11: Wood type movie or Sunset Boulevard. I thought it had
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  Speaker 11: those themes and I always thought it would make A
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  Speaker 11: really great movie, so the fact that that's happening is
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  Speaker 11: really great.
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  Speaker 10: Who would you cast as Tommy?
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  Speaker 11: I think James Franco is going to play Tommy.
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  Speaker 10: Would you pick somebody?
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  Speaker 11: I didn't think of him initially, but now that that's
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  Speaker 11: come about, I think he'll do a really fantastic job.
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  Speaker 11: For a while there, when I was working on the book,
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  Speaker 11: I kind of envisioned Javier Bardem playing Tommy.
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  Speaker 9: That would be interesting.
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  Speaker 11: I think it's definitely a bold choice, but I think
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  Speaker 11: it's a young audience that loves this movie, and I
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  Speaker 11: think James has a really good tie with the young audience.
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  Speaker 10: He'll have to dress up as John Travolta in Pulp Fiction,
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  Speaker 10: I think. Is that Tommy's look?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 5: Don't throw an extra belt on there.
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  Speaker 9: James is committed, though. I mean, even watching him in
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  Speaker 9: Spring Breakers, like, I don't even know that he 100%
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  Speaker 9: realizes how silly that performance is. Because, again, he's so
• 16:31
  Speaker 9: ingrained in it. Like, he becomes that character in that.
• 16:34
  Speaker 9: So watching that, that's what kind of makes me think
• 16:36
  Speaker 9: he probably is right for this role. Yeah, I think.
• 16:40
  Speaker 11: That was a really good sample of what he can do.
• 16:43
  Speaker 9: Yeah. It's a crazy performance, but, like, he is 100% committed.
• 16:49
  Speaker 9: He can make it work. So usually we'll try to
• 16:54
  Speaker 9: just do, even with our regular people on the show,
• 16:57
  Speaker 9: we'll just do what we've been watching lately or just
• 16:59
  Speaker 9: kind of movies that we like in general. So we've
• 17:01
  Speaker 9: done a little of that today anyway. But what type
• 17:04
  Speaker 9: of stuff do you normally watch? I guess you can
• 17:07
  Speaker 9: go back to classics that you love and then some
• 17:09
  Speaker 9: newer stuff you've seen.
• 17:11
  Speaker 11: Some of the classics I really love are like Sunset Boulevard,
• 17:13
  Speaker 11: Double Indemnity. I think Billy Wilder. Those are two of
• 17:19
  Speaker 11: his greatest films. underrated film yeah definitely and then I
• 17:24
  Speaker 11: was kind of late to the party but I saw
• 17:26
  Speaker 11: recently watched all the seasons of Breaking Bad yeah and
• 17:30
  Speaker 11: I felt like some of those last few episodes were
• 17:32
  Speaker 11: some of the most you know amazing moments that I've
• 17:35
  Speaker 11: experienced in any form of entertainment so I just absolutely
• 17:40
  Speaker 11: love that and then really the film that I've seen
• 17:42
  Speaker 11: recently that because there's a while there I just went
• 17:46
  Speaker 11: to the movies and there's I just didn't walk out
• 17:48
  Speaker 11: with any sort of feeling I just yeah I would
• 17:50
  Speaker 11: kind of either get bored during the film or just
• 17:53
  Speaker 11: lose interest. A movie that really got me recently was Boyhood.
• 17:59
  Speaker 9: I still haven't seen it. That looks amazing.
• 18:02
  Speaker 11: Yeah, it was just so well done and such a
• 18:05
  Speaker 11: different experience. I mean, I love his work. I love Bernie.
• 18:12
  Speaker 9: There are a few filmmakers that do that kind of
• 18:15
  Speaker 9: stuff anyway. He has that weird back and forth with
• 18:18
  Speaker 9: he'll do something kind of commercial. And then he'll turn
• 18:20
  Speaker 9: around and do something crazy. And, like, this is one
• 18:22
  Speaker 9: of those that, like, I don't know that anybody else
• 18:25
  Speaker 9: would have tried. And, like, to have that much conviction
• 18:28
  Speaker 9: to spend, you know, 15 years committed to this one project.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: And, yeah.
• 18:32
  Speaker 11: And actually, yeah, to pull it off.
• 18:34
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 18:35
  Speaker 11: And it's just, yeah, it was such a great film.
• 18:37
  Speaker 11: Even without... that aspect it was just the way the
• 18:42
  Speaker 11: story was told and I thought it was really.
• 18:44
  Speaker 9: I mean they could have changed actors a few times
• 18:46
  Speaker 9: I guess they've done that in many other movies over
• 18:48
  Speaker 9: the years but yeah it's it tells you what a
• 18:52
  Speaker 9: weird different kind of filmmaking world we're in now that
• 18:54
  Speaker 9: people will commit themselves to I mean even the other
• 18:57
  Speaker 9: actors that like you know you've got Ethan Hawke that's
• 19:00
  Speaker 9: like alright I'm friends with you you know we're gonna
• 19:02
  Speaker 9: hang out over the next 15 years anyway let's keep
• 19:04
  Speaker 9: shooting stuff every you know couple.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: Of months that started in Nashville this weekend I'm gonna
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: try to get down there to see it yeah It's
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: just such an amazing concept.
• 19:12
  Speaker 9: So it's good to hear it came through. It actually
• 19:15
  Speaker 9: worked out. Do you guys have anything?
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: As far as what we've been watching, I'm in the
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: midst of a bad movie retrospective here at the library,
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: and I watched a few of our entries in that.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: The last thing I watched was Sergeant Pepper. That's the
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: last one we showed. Basically with these events, they're like
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: mystery science theater parties. We encourage the audience to make
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: fun of the film. We'll have one guest speaker at
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: each of them that is kind of aware of the movie,
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: like an expert on the movie or the theme of
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: the movie. and this last one we had where we
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: showed Sergeant Pepper my friend Dory who Greg was able
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: to meet last night she's a Beatles historian who lives
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: in Liverpool right now but she's originally from Owensboro so
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: she was in for this she spoke a little bit
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: about what she does as a musicologist and kind of
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: the culture that produced the movie and that was bad
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: have you seen the Sergeant Pepper film.
• 20:05
  Speaker 9: I remember bits and pieces of it from Cable, and
• 20:08
  Speaker 9: I think I'm still kind of scarred.
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: They take songs from the Sgt. Pepper album and other
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: Beatles albums, and they try their best to string a
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: plot together. It's basically like some legendary band, the Sgt.
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: Pepper's band. They have these instruments that will grant wishes
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: somehow or something.
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: They do.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: The town was like Happy Town, USA, or any town.
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: I can't remember exactly. And George Burns was the mayor, Mr.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Kite.
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: And he is the only person that speaks in the
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: whole movie. It's a jukebox musical. That's what they call those,
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: but it's just random songs. Then the instruments get stolen
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: by me and Mr. Musser, who for some reason is
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: a real estate agent. They never explain that in the movie.
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: He's just an evil real estate agent who has two
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: robot women with him. And they give him massages and
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: parts of it. Kind of a little racy for a
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: PG movie. But yeah, these instruments get stolen, and the Sgt.
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: Pepper's band has to go get them. The end of
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: the movie, which... I don't think you would care about spoilers,
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: because I think the makers actually spoiled this one. Billy
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: Preston appears as Sergeant Pepper on the top of the building.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: And he has a version of Get Back, he sings
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: while he does this. Shoots some kind of psychedelic lightning
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: from his fingertips and erases all the damage done by
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: the villains in the movie. A character comes back alive.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: The love interest, who is actually named Strawberry Field. And
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: the whole movie never happened, so one of the jokes
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: that was made when that happened was, like, thank you,
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: Billy Preston. we're erasing the movie.
• 21:29
  Speaker 9: Um, if only you could erase it from our memories.
• 21:31
  Speaker 10: Right. And, uh, it was, uh, it's obviously that you've
• 21:35
  Speaker 10: seen the SpongeBob.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 21:37
  Speaker 10: It was the inspiration for that, where SpongeBob turns into
• 21:40
  Speaker 10: a wizard.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's, it's definitely close. Brian made that comparison that night.
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: This is very accurate. But yeah, that, uh, those, that's
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: kind of been what's on my plate. I can't, I'm trying,
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: I was sitting here thinking as you guys were talking
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: about the last thing I saw in the theater was,
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: and I can't really remember. I know the next thing
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: I'm going to see is Guardians of the Galaxy. I'm
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: very excited about that. Um, And I also acquired a
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: VHS copy of Mazes and Monsters, which I'm pretty excited about.
• 22:03
  Speaker 9: Ah, the VHS company.
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: We have a great indie store. If you're ever in Owensboro,
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: not to give an unpaid endorsement, but there's a place
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: here I love called Star Tracks that has new releases,
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: but they have just shelves and shelves of VHS tapes,
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: and everything's for sale that they rent. It's kind of
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: like our version of Wild and Wooly, essentially. They have
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: some great stuff in there. He pulled a Howard the
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: Duck VHS the other day, so I'm going to post
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: that on there. I run their Facebook page, so.
• 22:28
  Speaker 9: We'll disclose it. I'll put it next to mine.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: Oh, you've got Howard Duck on VHS?
• 22:33
  Speaker 9: I believe I do.
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 22:34
  Speaker 9: He's about to make a comeback. I don't know if
• 22:36
  Speaker 9: I should say that out loud.
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: He's coming back. But, yeah, that's basically been about all
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: I've been watching lately.
• 22:41
  Speaker 10: I was paid to watch Sergeant Peppers on Walk Down.
• 22:46
  Speaker 9: It's not worth my job. I quit.
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: We showed Solar Babies 2, the first one.
• 22:54
  Speaker 9: That's a classic.
• 22:55
  Speaker 11: That's a title.
• 22:56
  Speaker 9: That's a classic.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: And that was, Jim, our director here, talked about that one.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: I guess Mel Brooks' company produced that. That was like
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: one of the first things that he didn't direct that
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: they produced. I guess, I don't know, it's like Mad
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: Max with kids and roller skates.
• 23:09
  Speaker 9: And Jamie Girtz, and that's all you need to know.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: True.
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: She did have some sweet hair back then.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: And her hair got progressively bigger as the movie went on.
• 23:17
  Speaker 9: In her life.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: But yeah, Guardians is next on my agenda, and I
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: hope on Monday to see that, I think.
• 23:24
  Speaker 10: Got anything, Brian?
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 23:27
  Speaker 10: I'm trying to think what I've... Besides the Daily Ghosts
• 23:31
  Speaker 10: of Power Rangers, I've been going through the whole Power Rangers.
• 23:34
  Speaker 9: On purpose?
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, my daughter.
• 23:37
  Speaker 9: If you have a kid, you have an out. If
• 23:39
  Speaker 9: you were just sitting at home watching them all.
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: I don't have a kid, so I don't have an
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: excuse for owning Princess Bride Part 1. Or Princess Diaries,
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: excuse me. Princess Bride's good.
• 23:47
  Speaker 9: I can't pretend like I haven't seen it.
• 23:50
  Speaker 10: It's amazing how after 20 years old or something, there's
• 23:53
  Speaker 10: a million.
• 23:55
  Speaker 9: The Power Rangers. Yeah, because we've run into several of them.
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, there are a lot of conventions.
• 24:00
  Speaker 9: Yeah, all of a sudden. It's weird. The convention world
• 24:03
  Speaker 9: shifted in these last few years. Everything was like 80s
• 24:06
  Speaker 9: slasher movies, 80s comedies. It was all that, and then
• 24:10
  Speaker 9: all of a sudden this new wave of 90s era
• 24:13
  Speaker 9: kids came along, and everything like that one we went
• 24:16
  Speaker 9: to a few months ago was like the entire cast
• 24:18
  Speaker 9: of the Power Rangers. They were so excited because the
• 24:21
  Speaker 9: guy who did the voice of Darkwing Duck was there,
• 24:23
  Speaker 9: and I'm like, This is just a whole new wave
• 24:24
  Speaker 9: of kids now. It's a different world.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: There's going to be a comic convention here soon, and
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: I know Grizzly Adams is going to be a guest.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: And Eddie Monster.
• 24:33
  Speaker 9: You're going backwards on that.
• 24:34
  Speaker 11: 70s, 60s.
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: We move a little slower in Kentucky. I definitely want
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: to get a picture with him just simply because of
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: the line at Billy Madison. Grizzly Adams did have a beard.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: Or Happy Gilmore, I'm sorry.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: I did watch something recently under this camera.
• 24:51
  Speaker 9: No, that's what I was just telling him about. I
• 24:54
  Speaker 9: really like that. Like, I'm thrilled with that. I did
• 24:58
  Speaker 9: not expect hardly anything going in. I'd heard a little
• 25:00
  Speaker 9: bit from guys on the show that said they liked it. But, yeah,
• 25:03
  Speaker 9: I was kind of blown away. It's visually amazing. You
• 25:07
  Speaker 9: have to have kind of an open mind. It's not
• 25:09
  Speaker 9: for everyone. But, yeah, it's so just amazing to look at.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: Tell me a bit about that one. I'm not familiar.
• 25:17
  Speaker 9: I don't know if you can.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 25:21
  Speaker 12: It's based on a science fiction novel by the same name.
• 25:26
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 25:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it is, and I don't know how close they
• 25:30
  Speaker 9: stick to that story. It may be relatively close, because again,
• 25:33
  Speaker 9: it's just... It's so vague in a lot of the places.
• 25:37
  Speaker 9: They really don't spell anything out for you, which is
• 25:40
  Speaker 9: kind of why I respect it. I'm like, we're so
• 25:42
  Speaker 9: used to having boring movies spoon-feed every bit of information,
• 25:47
  Speaker 9: that this one, things just start happening, and you... you
• 25:51
  Speaker 9: can be you know again if you have any sense
• 25:52
  Speaker 9: you can piece together what's going on but like they
• 25:54
  Speaker 9: don't necessarily spell out who this character is or what
• 25:57
  Speaker 9: their motivation is you just sort of have to assess
• 26:00
  Speaker 9: all that as the movie goes.
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: On i'm a david lynch fan so i probably.
• 26:03
  Speaker 9: Yeah so it's it's along those lines that that's what
• 26:05
  Speaker 9: i was telling him a little while ago it's like
• 26:07
  Speaker 9: it it goes long stretches where there's no dialogue you
• 26:10
  Speaker 9: will just enter into this weird situation and people won't
• 26:13
  Speaker 9: talk and things will happen and you're just kind of
• 26:17
  Speaker 9: like that was weird all right and The wrap-up's equally
• 26:20
  Speaker 9: as disturbing and awesome. So, yeah, it's worth seeing.
• 26:25
  Speaker 10: It's like a movie that Stanley.
• 26:27
  Speaker 9: Kubrick could have made. Yeah, it's not far from that
• 26:32
  Speaker 9: kind of weird and genius at the same time.
• 26:34
  Speaker 10: But they did some weird, they shot it a weird way, too.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: Scarlett Johansson was wearing a wig, and they talked to
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: people on the streets who were driving around with cameras
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: in their van.
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 26:47
  Speaker 9: Yeah it was all unscripted i think that early stuff
• 26:51
  Speaker 9: which i'm like if you're just somewhere because she's picking
• 26:53
  Speaker 9: up guys basically so if you're just some weird dude
• 26:55
  Speaker 9: on the street and scarlett johnson comes and picks you
• 26:57
  Speaker 9: up i don't know i would assume you know a
• 27:00
  Speaker 9: handful of people that were lucky enough to fall in
• 27:02
  Speaker 9: that situation it's yet to happen to me i don't.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: Understand speaking of keurig uh he did the killing.
• 27:09
  Speaker 9: Right one of them i think there's an earlier one
• 27:12
  Speaker 9: too yeah.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah that's um I think that's the one that I'm
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: thinking of. We had a noir conversation last night, and
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: that's one of my favorite noir films.
• 27:20
  Speaker 9: It's very good. That's another one of those. It goes
• 27:23
  Speaker 9: back so far, most people forget that's even in his catalog.
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: There's The Killing TV Show, too, which threw me off
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: when I first heard about it. That just came back,
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: and that's one thing I want to start on, too.
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: It's a Netflix original now. They're finishing it up. I
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: love the mood of the first season of that. It
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: kind of lost it toward the end, but it was
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: pretty tight at first. It was one of those cases
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: where they produced far too many episodes for the story
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: they had. But I like the acting on that show,
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: and I like the story, but it kind of has
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: too much padding in it, I guess.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: What I really got into now is this comic book
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: called Saga.
• 27:56
  Speaker 10: Anybody heard of it?
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: It's on Image, and it's just this weird space odyssey
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: type thing.
• 28:05
  Speaker 10: Totally adult, I mean, but it's pretty trippy.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:10
  Speaker 9: At this point do you see them turning it into
• 28:11
  Speaker 9: a movie since every comic book or graphic novel now
• 28:15
  Speaker 9: gets at least somebody somewhere is working in a room
• 28:18
  Speaker 9: trying to turn it into a movie is it the
• 28:20
  Speaker 9: kind of thing that would work uh they'd probably try
• 28:24
  Speaker 9: it yeah it would be I guess they could do
• 28:27
  Speaker 9: Guardians of the Galaxy they could probably you can kind
• 28:28
  Speaker 9: of do anything if you can do Guardians of the Galaxy.
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: I'm so excited for that this is a great thing
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: about our job we see so much stuff come through
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: so we have all this great content right in front
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: of us and we don't have to look very far
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: so it's a They have no filter, like, you know,
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: stuff we get, a wide variety of stuff, and you
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: can pretty much suggest a purchase, and if it looks promising,
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: we'll pull it in. It's a really great working environment.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: That's cool.
• 28:52
  Speaker 11: Although all my.
• 28:52
  Speaker 10: Suggestions for comic books seem to go to the black hole.
• 28:56
  Speaker 9: They finally got the Watchmen, right?
• 28:58
  Speaker 10: Yeah, they got Watchmen.
• 29:00
  Speaker 9: I mean, that's considered literature at this point.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: Oh, it was Kabuki, not Watchmen, that you asked for
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: for a while.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 29:06
  Speaker 10: I gave up on that.
• 29:06
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 29:07
  Speaker 10: I asked for Grant Morrison's other title, The Invisibles.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah. He'll get there. Just keep trying. Yeah, that's
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: about it for my end.
• 29:21
  Speaker 13: Leave, I want you to leave.
• 29:24
  Speaker 9: Please, leave.
• 29:31
  Speaker 13: Your stupid comments in your pocket.
• 29:34
  Speaker 9: What do you know about it?
• 29:37
  Speaker 13: Were you even invited?
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: I never saw you before.
• 29:46
  Speaker 13: Don't you know she loves me And you are not
• 29:49
  Speaker 13: above me Let me show you the door.
• 29:56
  Speaker 14: You don't understand I am the other man. I know
• 30:02
  Speaker 14: it's got to end.
• 30:07
  Speaker 13: How can I explain? Oh, I'm in so much pain.
• 30:12
  Speaker 13: Cause Johnny is my best friend.
• 30:16
  Speaker 14: Anyway, my sex life's fine.
• 30:20
  Speaker 13: His future life is lying.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: And Johnny says to me, what a story.
• 30:29
  Speaker 13: She's getting loud and three's a crowd.
• 30:34
  Speaker 9: So maybe I should.
• 30:36
  Speaker 13: Leave before she has me.
• 30:40
  Speaker 14: You don't understand.
• 30:43
  Speaker 13: I am the other man. I know it's got to end.
• 30:53
  Speaker 13: it's intermission time so how about taking a break get
• 31:11
  Speaker 13: out and stretch a little and relax before the show
• 31:14
  Speaker 13: begins again And why not make it.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Refreshment time, too?
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: We have lots of tasty, delicious treats waiting for you
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: at the refreshment center. There's hot popcorn, so golden good
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: and fresh out of the popper. And all kinds of
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: refreshing ice-cold soft drinks. Sizzling hot dogs just bursting with
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: juicy goodness.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Ice cream so smooth and delicious, you'll hanker for more. Plus,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: all the most.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Popular candy bars and many other favorite treats. So why
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: not visit the refreshment center now? Our courteous attendants are
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: ready and waiting to serve you with a wide and
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: wonderful variety.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Of good things to eat and drink.
• 31:53
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• 31:57
  Speaker 8: Hi, I am Tommy Wiseau.
• 32:08
  Speaker 9: Director, star of the hit movie.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: The Room.
• 32:11
  Speaker 15: I'd like to wish you a happy.
• 32:13
  Speaker 8: Happy Memorial Day.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Be cool, enjoy yourself.
• 32:19
  Speaker 9: It's a beautiful day. A lot of people be afraid.
• 32:21
  Speaker 16: They're afraid to enjoy themselves.
• 32:24
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  Speaker 11: I'm C.
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  Speaker 9: Thomas Howell and you're listening to Movie Meltdown. It's time
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  Speaker 9: for Sofa Theater.
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  Speaker 7: Many stories have been told of man's search for meaning
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: in his life. But none of them quite like this one.
• 35:49
  Speaker 7: Johnny's life had no meaning. It seemed to be going nowhere.
• 35:54
  Speaker 7: Then one night, meaning struck him in the form of
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: black suede shoes, and there was no stopping him now.
• 36:03
  Speaker 13: What are those, bedroom slippers?
• 36:05
  Speaker 8: They're one-of-a-kind black suede shoes.
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  Speaker 11: My name's Suede.
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  Speaker 9: Jan Suede.
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  Speaker 5: Johnny Suede.
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  Speaker 11: You're kidding me, right?
• 36:15
  Speaker 8: Now, with Yvonne, I'm making sure she knows I can
• 36:18
  Speaker 8: take it or leave it.
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: Brad Pitt is Johnny Suede, a smooth comedy.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Well, it's one for the money, two for the show,
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: three to get ready.
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  Speaker 9: Now go, cat, go.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: But don't you step on my blue suede shoes. You
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: can do anything, but they're all for my blue suede shoes. Well,
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: you can knock me down, step in my face, slander
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: my name all over the place.
• 37:14
  Speaker 9: Well, I guess to move into the next stage here,
• 37:17
  Speaker 9: I figure, you know, you've probably talked about The Room
• 37:20
  Speaker 9: a million times, Greg. So I was like, let's, you know,
• 37:22
  Speaker 9: we go through our series and we'll pick different movies
• 37:24
  Speaker 9: and talk about them anyway. So I was like That
• 37:26
  Speaker 9: one's known as a bad movie, depending on who you
• 37:29
  Speaker 9: talk to. I was like, let's have you pick one
• 37:31
  Speaker 9: that you think is kind of a fun bad movie,
• 37:35
  Speaker 9: or maybe a movie that people would say is bad,
• 37:37
  Speaker 9: but they could be wrong. So your option was Johnny Suede.
• 37:43
  Speaker 11: Yeah, Johnny Suede, I wouldn't say it's like a bad movie.
• 37:46
  Speaker 11: I mean, The Room is technically bad. It does everything wrong,
• 37:52
  Speaker 11: but it has a watchability to it. It's really just...
• 37:55
  Speaker 11: It's an alien-type film. When it comes to Johnny Suede,
• 38:00
  Speaker 11: it had a lot of talent there. I mean, Catherine
• 38:02
  Speaker 11: Keener's great, Brad Pitt's great. It just was trying to
• 38:06
  Speaker 11: be something, and I think it was either ahead of
• 38:11
  Speaker 11: its time or just totally missed its time.
• 38:13
  Speaker 9: It may have missed its time. Yeah.
• 38:15
  Speaker 11: It was just something I thought was really quirky and
• 38:17
  Speaker 11: odd about it, and there were some dialogue and some
• 38:21
  Speaker 11: storylines that were just.
• 38:24
  Speaker 11: Really, like, you kind of wanted to figure out what
• 38:27
  Speaker 11: they were about, and it just has this dorkiness to
• 38:30
  Speaker 11: it that I really enjoyed watching it, you know, over
• 38:32
  Speaker 11: and over.
• 38:33
  Speaker 9: Well, for the rundown here of the details, I'll at
• 38:36
  Speaker 9: least throw them out there. This week's Sova Theater feature
• 38:38
  Speaker 9: is Johnny Suede. The year is 1991. The director, are
• 38:42
  Speaker 9: we going with DeCilio? Tom DeCilio?
• 38:45
  Speaker 11: I think so, yeah.
• 38:46
  Speaker 9: I'm not sure. I don't remember if I've heard it
• 38:48
  Speaker 9: spoken before. The plot, according to IMDb, is a struggling
• 38:52
  Speaker 9: young musician and devoted fan of Ricky Nelson wants to
• 38:55
  Speaker 9: be just like his idol and become.
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: A rock star.
• 38:58
  Speaker 9: Again, IMDb with their killer plot summary. So, spoiler alert,
• 39:02
  Speaker 9: I guess. I don't know that we can really spoil this.
• 39:05
  Speaker 11: No, I just.
• 39:06
  Speaker 9: Just for the sake of saying it, we threw it
• 39:08
  Speaker 9: out there.
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  Speaker 11: I discovered this movie when I was right struggling to
• 39:14
  Speaker 11: trying to become an actor. And I kind of identified
• 39:17
  Speaker 11: with Johnny Suede trying to become a musician. I was depressed,
• 39:23
  Speaker 11: and this movie was depressing, but it was really funny. Yeah,
• 39:29
  Speaker 11: there's these little midget guys that appear and start yelling stuff.
• 39:33
  Speaker 11: It's like a dream sequence, and then Samuel L. Jackson
• 39:37
  Speaker 11: has two lines in it. It's just really... And then
• 39:42
  Speaker 11: the romance that happens, and I think Nick Cave is
• 39:45
  Speaker 11: in it.
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Nick Cave was amazing in that.
• 39:48
  Speaker 11: I'd say it's really.
• 39:51
  Speaker 11: I don't know if I'd say it's a bad movie
• 39:54
  Speaker 11: like The Room. I just think it was coming from
• 39:57
  Speaker 11: a mind who had made some really, really interesting films,
• 40:01
  Speaker 11: and he just took a chance. And I think, you know,
• 40:04
  Speaker 11: obviously this is a totally different caliber, but Drive was...
• 40:09
  Speaker 11: I absolutely loved Drive. I thought it was brilliant. And then,
• 40:12
  Speaker 11: you know, they did Only God Forgives, and I felt
• 40:14
  Speaker 11: like that was.
• 40:17
  Speaker 11: That didn't really do what drive did for me so
• 40:19
  Speaker 11: i think going back to tom basilio i think he
• 40:22
  Speaker 11: did living in oblivion and it was yeah it was
• 40:24
  Speaker 11: it was really great i think he just took a
• 40:26
  Speaker 11: chance and so on something he he believed in and
• 40:29
  Speaker 11: just you know it came out different drives.
• 40:31
  Speaker 9: A good example though because i think i i can
• 40:33
  Speaker 9: see and i have heard people say like it's a
• 40:36
  Speaker 9: very polarizing movie there are people that love it and
• 40:38
  Speaker 9: they're people like i hated that movie and like I
• 40:40
  Speaker 9: can see where what they're doing on screen could work
• 40:43
  Speaker 9: both ways. You could be totally devoted to how well
• 40:46
  Speaker 9: it works, or you could just not click with it
• 40:49
  Speaker 9: at all. Be like, this is just not my movie.
• 40:53
  Speaker 9: So that's a good version of kind of what was
• 40:56
  Speaker 9: going on here. That's what I wanted to throw out
• 40:59
  Speaker 9: there first, I think, was usually with most of these movies,
• 41:03
  Speaker 9: movies in general, I guess, and especially even the quirky ones,
• 41:07
  Speaker 9: I can kind of get what they're going for. You know,
• 41:10
  Speaker 9: even if it's weird and off the skin, being a
• 41:12
  Speaker 9: good example, it's like it's very weird and different.
• 41:14
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: But I get, like, what.
• 41:16
  Speaker 9: They're going for and what they're trying to do and
• 41:17
  Speaker 9: what they're trying to say. So many times in Johnny's way,
• 41:20
  Speaker 9: I'm just sitting here going, I don't know what they're
• 41:23
  Speaker 9: going for.
• 41:24
  Speaker 11: Yeah, and I think that's what makes it so weird.
• 41:27
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 41:28
  Speaker 11: I couldn't figure it out.
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: I read that it came from a, like, Tom DiCilio
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: had a one-man show.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:34
  Speaker 9: And it kind of evolved from that. Which, I don't
• 41:37
  Speaker 9: know what to do with that either. Because I'm not
• 41:39
  Speaker 9: even trying to... I don't know how you would work
• 41:41
  Speaker 9: that in.
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: His little monologue about suede in the beginning in the
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: Black and White Dream sequence, I can see that being
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: a one-man show thing.
• 41:47
  Speaker 8: Suede is a funny thing. It's rough but soft. It's
• 41:55
  Speaker 8: strong but quiet. And it doesn't wrinkle. And it doesn't crack.
• 42:04
  Speaker 8: And it doesn't stand out so much in a crowd
• 42:06
  Speaker 8: of leather and vinyl. You don't notice it at first,
• 42:13
  Speaker 8: but once you do, you can't take your eyes off
• 42:15
  Speaker 8: of it, and you wonder how in the hell you
• 42:17
  Speaker 8: ever overlooked it in the first place.
• 42:24
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, is he supposed to be the Johnny Suede?
• 42:27
  Speaker 9: These are all his crazy thoughts.
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, I think another thing I read, too, is
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: that he originally planned on playing him himself. It seems
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: like I saw that somewhere.
• 42:37
  Speaker 10: Interesting.
• 42:38
  Speaker 9: Well, no, they were pushing for Timothy Hutton, I think.
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that was one of them.
• 42:42
  Speaker 9: They really wanted to play the lead, and he was
• 42:45
  Speaker 9: gunning for the unknown, Brad Pitt.
• 42:48
  Speaker 11: I thought Brad Pitt was a cool role for him.
• 42:52
  Speaker 11: It was.
• 42:52
  Speaker 9: It's one of those I remember that, which that's what
• 42:55
  Speaker 9: I wanted to ask you. You were sort of inspired
• 42:57
  Speaker 9: by him at that point. Were you also inspired by
• 42:59
  Speaker 9: the hair? Did you want to do the hair?
• 43:01
  Speaker 11: The hair was very... Yeah, the hair made it really funny.
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: Seeing him walk around his apartment in his underwear with
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: that hair, I.
• 43:11
  Speaker 9: Think he still probably does that. Angelina yells at him,
• 43:13
  Speaker 9: put some clothes on, the kids are.
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: That was like the third thing Brad Pitt did, right?
• 43:19
  Speaker 11: Johnny Suede?
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 43:21
  Speaker 11: He had done a couple films, he did like Cool World.
• 43:25
  Speaker 9: That might have been right around this time.
• 43:26
  Speaker 11: Yeah, right around that time.
• 43:27
  Speaker 9: I think Thelma and Louise was 90.
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: Wasn't it?
• 43:28
  Speaker 11: 91, same year. But he must have maybe made it
• 43:31
  Speaker 11: before or whatever. Yeah, so it was good to try
• 43:34
  Speaker 11: out a few different parts. Like I said, I thought
• 43:37
  Speaker 11: he kind of made the movie work. He went for
• 43:43
  Speaker 11: the oddness of Johnny Sway and I think the way
• 43:46
  Speaker 11: he played it is what made it funny.
• 43:48
  Speaker 9: I think he's finding himself at that point. Again, being
• 43:51
  Speaker 9: that early in his career too. Because I remember watching
• 43:54
  Speaker 9: Cool World and thinking... That guy. You know, I'm like,
• 43:58
  Speaker 9: the movie has all these weird problems going on, but
• 44:00
  Speaker 9: I'm like, that's what came through. It's like, you know,
• 44:03
  Speaker 9: this guy is obviously going to be leading man.
• 44:05
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 44:05
  Speaker 9: Because he takes that movie and it's like, Gabriel Byrne's
• 44:08
  Speaker 9: in it, a very, you know, well-respected actor already at
• 44:11
  Speaker 9: that point, but he totally walks away with that movie.
• 44:13
  Speaker 9: And it's like, that's kind of the situation here. This
• 44:16
  Speaker 9: could have been a complete train wreck, but I think.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 44:19
  Speaker 9: You get that performance out of Brad Pitt that you're like, well,
• 44:22
  Speaker 9: I think that's what makes it more perplexing.
• 44:23
  Speaker 11: And Calvin Keener, too, was... kind of saves it halfway
• 44:27
  Speaker 11: through where she seems really distraught and weird and then
• 44:31
  Speaker 11: them coming together it's just kind of like this really
• 44:35
  Speaker 11: bizarre connection but they are able to bring something to
• 44:39
  Speaker 11: it that makes it you know watchable at least for
• 44:42
  Speaker 11: me are you a.
• 44:43
  Speaker 9: Big fan of hers in general i always feel like
• 44:45
  Speaker 9: she's such an odd choice for so many roles But
• 44:48
  Speaker 9: she's good. It's one of those I don't know how
• 44:50
  Speaker 9: to balance it out.
• 44:51
  Speaker 11: Yeah, that's what I'd say. I think she's always good.
• 44:53
  Speaker 9: Yeah, she's always good and, again, super committed. Like, you
• 44:56
  Speaker 9: can tell how, like, into, even the silly lines that
• 45:00
  Speaker 9: she has to deliver here. Like, she's the one that's
• 45:02
  Speaker 9: delivering them probably the most real and the most heartfelt.
• 45:06
  Speaker 11: Well, ever since Johnny Suede, I've kind of rooted for her.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:09
  Speaker 9: That's cool. But even in this, she's so abrasive.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:13
  Speaker 9: Especially balancing, because we have this weird, like, book-ended romances,
• 45:17
  Speaker 9: and I'm like, The first one makes no sense. And
• 45:20
  Speaker 9: that girl is just mousy and yet constantly feels like
• 45:24
  Speaker 9: she's lying to him or putting him on. You have
• 45:28
  Speaker 9: to figure out what was going on in that first romance.
• 45:29
  Speaker 11: She's just like the worst girlfriend you could ever ask for.
• 45:32
  Speaker 11: And then she's going out with that weird photographer. Yeah,
• 45:35
  Speaker 11: that was just so ridiculous.
• 45:37
  Speaker 9: Which again, do we think this whole thing feels like
• 45:41
  Speaker 9: its own fictional world?
• 45:42
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I think that's kind of what he was going for.
• 45:44
  Speaker 11: I think he had an idea and.
• 45:47
  Speaker 11: You know, that's why for the book it was, I
• 45:49
  Speaker 11: wanted to work with somebody, collaborate with somebody, because sometimes
• 45:53
  Speaker 11: if you have these ideas and you know you have
• 45:55
  Speaker 11: nobody to reel you in, you can kind of go
• 45:57
  Speaker 11: off and end up with what you feel is a
• 45:59
  Speaker 11: great idea in your head, but when you execute it,
• 46:01
  Speaker 11: it's just, people don't follow it.
• 46:03
  Speaker 9: It becomes Johnny's.
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: I'm definitely going to use that strawberry ice cream one
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: next time I'm at the club.
• 46:08
  Speaker 9: Well, that was, I mean, as I got into this,
• 46:10
  Speaker 9: I'm like, we have characters that are Freakstorm and Flipped Out,
• 46:14
  Speaker 9: and I'm like, this is a comic book, right? I'm like, there's,
• 46:17
  Speaker 9: There's no real-world scenarios that this is going on.
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: The music was amazing. Like, Link Wray, you can't get
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: much better than that.
• 46:24
  Speaker 8: This is for the never girl.
• 46:28
  Speaker 9: The girl I never knew. The one who.
• 46:33
  Speaker 11: Never pledged to love.
• 46:35
  Speaker 12: Or promised to be true.
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: The one who never held me or wished for me.
• 46:49
  Speaker 10: One whose lips.
• 46:50
  Speaker 8: I never kissed or felt her heart so near But if.
• 46:57
  Speaker 9: I ever find her I.
• 47:00
  Speaker 13: Know just what I'll.
• 47:02
  Speaker 9: Say Here I am.
• 47:07
  Speaker 8: Your never boy to take you far.
• 47:11
  Speaker 9: Away even and that's that's another one of those that
• 47:14
  Speaker 9: falls in the middle it's like i don't know what
• 47:16
  Speaker 9: the thing like i guess it would be funnier if
• 47:18
  Speaker 9: he was just terrible right but like there's moments when
• 47:21
  Speaker 9: i'm like that song's passable like his voice isn't bad
• 47:26
  Speaker 9: like i think if they would have played one way
• 47:28
  Speaker 9: or the other like yeah he was so terrible and
• 47:30
  Speaker 9: only he couldn't see it it might have been funnier
• 47:34
  Speaker 9: or if he was just really good and like somehow
• 47:35
  Speaker 9: i couldn't catch a break but like they play somewhere
• 47:37
  Speaker 9: in the middle where you're just like the whole time
• 47:39
  Speaker 9: going Am I supposed to laugh at his songs?
• 47:41
  Speaker 11: A couple songs were kind of cheesy.
• 47:44
  Speaker 9: The first one's pretty funny, but by the time the
• 47:46
  Speaker 9: one he does with the band, I kind of agree
• 47:48
  Speaker 9: with her. I'm like, I like it.
• 47:50
  Speaker 11: Yeah, that one was good.
• 47:51
  Speaker 9: I don't know what you're going for, but I like
• 47:53
  Speaker 9: the song. She said what she was thinking.
• 47:55
  Speaker 11: I don't really know what it was about. Yeah, I
• 47:57
  Speaker 11: thought that was a good song.
• 47:59
  Speaker 9: That's the polished one. That was pretty good.
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: That scene with Nick Cave in that alley I like, too.
• 48:02
  Speaker 9: Oh, yeah.
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: It's a song about his daddy.
• 48:05
  Speaker 9: I'm going to give that to you.
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: His hair, according to some other stuff I read, was
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: allegedly influenced by Jim Jarmusch.
• 48:11
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I can see that.
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: I think Tom DeCillo was a DP on some of
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: his stuff, so they had a connection there.
• 48:15
  Speaker 9: This is the Nick Cave?
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 48:17
  Speaker 9: I was going to say, because he looks like he's
• 48:19
  Speaker 9: doing a Jarmusch impersonation. I mean, there's so many. Again,
• 48:23
  Speaker 9: that whole weird relationship at the beginning, I don't know what.
• 48:27
  Speaker 11: Yeah, that girl was just... You wanted to just kill yourself.
• 48:30
  Speaker 11: She was kind of like Elisa in the room.
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 48:33
  Speaker 9: Can I think?
• 48:35
  Speaker 11: You don't know what she's thinking, that she likes this guy,
• 48:37
  Speaker 11: that she doesn't like you.
• 48:39
  Speaker 9: She seems like she's messing with him, but at the
• 48:41
  Speaker 9: same time, I'm like, I don't even know to what end.
• 48:43
  Speaker 9: She doesn't seem like she's getting anything out of it.
• 48:45
  Speaker 11: It's kind of like the room, too, where he's like,
• 48:47
  Speaker 11: maybe I'll hit you a couple times and we'll have
• 48:48
  Speaker 11: some fun, too. And she's like, gets all upset. Can't
• 48:51
  Speaker 11: believe this happened.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: People get strange these days.
• 48:56
  Speaker 9: It seems like that's all, like you at first start
• 48:59
  Speaker 9: to feel for her, and then as she goes on,
• 49:00
  Speaker 9: you're just like, so wait, is that? whole thing a
• 49:04
  Speaker 9: lie like and if so why is she telling him
• 49:07
  Speaker 9: this yeah like there's so many things they set up
• 49:09
  Speaker 9: yes you think it's gonna come back around exactly and.
• 49:12
  Speaker 11: The way it ends i thought was it's good you
• 49:16
  Speaker 11: see it's a dead movie it laughs at itself but
• 49:19
  Speaker 11: then it takes itself seriously so you don't quite know
• 49:21
  Speaker 11: where it maybe that was the intention.
• 49:23
  Speaker 9: It has moments that it takes itself like almost more
• 49:26
  Speaker 9: than seriously like it has some sort of grand purpose
• 49:29
  Speaker 9: and i don't know i was like again i like
• 49:31
  Speaker 9: this filmmaker so i'd like to think he did but
• 49:34
  Speaker 9: like as you get into the like the hand Why
• 49:37
  Speaker 9: does he find that hand on the ground? And then
• 49:40
  Speaker 9: immediately they follow it with that scene where he's talking
• 49:43
  Speaker 9: about the best way to hold on to something is
• 49:45
  Speaker 9: with an open hand. His hand is sitting in the windowsill.
• 49:49
  Speaker 9: He's delivering this. It's very hammy at that point.
• 49:52
  Speaker 11: Probably the weirdest scene for me was when he follows
• 49:55
  Speaker 11: that girl home.
• 49:56
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 49:57
  Speaker 11: That was the weirdest scene.
• 49:59
  Speaker 9: And she was like, all right, come on in. Frank's
• 50:01
  Speaker 9: with me. Let's go.
• 50:02
  Speaker 11: And then.
• 50:03
  Speaker 9: Let's go.
• 50:04
  Speaker 11: And then he gets back and he's like, oh, I...
• 50:08
  Speaker 11: that whole, the way that whole scene plays out with her,
• 50:11
  Speaker 11: it was, it was very, um, it felt very personal. Like,
• 50:16
  Speaker 11: it felt like something that you, you know, that I
• 50:19
  Speaker 11: could go through.
• 50:19
  Speaker 9: It may have happened at some point.
• 50:20
  Speaker 11: Yeah, it felt like the way it was shot, it
• 50:22
  Speaker 11: was very believable, like, and I thought that scene, um,
• 50:26
  Speaker 11: I remember I showed it to a few friends and
• 50:27
  Speaker 11: at that point they didn't really get it and they
• 50:29
  Speaker 11: were like, something happened, I hope somebody gets killed here
• 50:32
  Speaker 11: or whatever and so they, she attacks his, you know,
• 50:35
  Speaker 11: his hair and that whole thing plays out and, Yeah,
• 50:39
  Speaker 11: it was just kind of depressing and realistic. Jesus, what's
• 50:42
  Speaker 11: the matter with you, man?
• 50:43
  Speaker 9: What's the matter with me?
• 50:45
  Speaker 11: I just pawned my guitar, that's what.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 50:47
  Speaker 8: So I could have something else to eat besides goddamn carrots,
• 50:50
  Speaker 8: you know?
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you, man.
• 50:53
  Speaker 8: If I had a gun right now, I'd do something.
• 50:58
  Speaker 6: Like what?
• 50:59
  Speaker 8: Like, you see that barbershop over there, man? I bet
• 51:03
  Speaker 8: there's $ 300 sitting in the register. We walk in. Show
• 51:07
  Speaker 8: them the gun?
• 51:08
  Speaker 9: They give us the cash, right? Yeah, man, hey.
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: Hey, that's not a bad idea, Johnny.
• 51:13
  Speaker 11: I know.
• 51:14
  Speaker 8: I could get my guitar out of hot.
• 51:15
  Speaker 9: Hey, man, I could get me a new keyboard.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 51:18
  Speaker 11: We could start the band.
• 51:21
  Speaker 9: So when we gonna get the band started, man?
• 51:23
  Speaker 8: I just told you, as soon as we get a gun.
• 51:25
  Speaker 9: Because that's the other thing. I'm like, they do this
• 51:28
  Speaker 9: weird setup with the gun. And what end for that, really?
• 51:34
  Speaker 9: I'm just like, they build this whole big thing as to, like,
• 51:36
  Speaker 9: he's this almost wide-eyed, innocent character, but then all I
• 51:40
  Speaker 9: want's a gun. All I want to do is go
• 51:42
  Speaker 9: and rob people, and then I'll make everything okay. So
• 51:44
  Speaker 9: I'm like, okay, now is he making some weird comment
• 51:46
  Speaker 9: on violence? But then they forget it, and then it
• 51:49
  Speaker 9: comes back.
• 51:50
  Speaker 11: Later, and then, like... Or they're painting or whatever.
• 51:52
  Speaker 9: They're painting, and he gets the bullet, and he's so
• 51:54
  Speaker 9: excited that he's got the bullet, and he almost shoots
• 51:56
  Speaker 9: that guy. Like, it's just... so much of that feels
• 52:00
  Speaker 9: like he's trying to say something like he's trying to
• 52:02
  Speaker 9: make some sort of weird comment about the violence or,
• 52:06
  Speaker 9: you know, it's like some grand, you know, purpose for
• 52:09
  Speaker 9: this character as you, you know, he was innocent and
• 52:11
  Speaker 9: then this came along and changed him. But like, then
• 52:14
  Speaker 9: it does that one 80 by the end and you're just, wait,
• 52:16
  Speaker 9: did we forget about all this stuff? Like it really
• 52:19
  Speaker 9: doesn't resolve any of the stuff they set up with
• 52:22
  Speaker 9: the weird hand and the gun and, the little guy
• 52:25
  Speaker 9: that shows up. What fictional world does that little character
• 52:28
  Speaker 9: that falls down the stairs exist in?
• 52:30
  Speaker 11: Or the fake scene where at the end where she
• 52:32
  Speaker 11: comes back and she's, you know, and he's like starts
• 52:35
  Speaker 11: crying or whatever.
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: I'm missing all these indie movies.
• 52:40
  Speaker 9: Yeah. I mean, that was one of those, like this
• 52:44
  Speaker 9: came along at that time and this director is one
• 52:48
  Speaker 9: of those because, I mean, you get to Because I
• 52:50
  Speaker 9: remember I loved Living in Oblivion. And I remember thinking
• 52:53
  Speaker 9: that was such an impressive thing. But it was one
• 52:55
  Speaker 9: of those, like it hit right in the middle of
• 52:57
  Speaker 9: that 90s indie film boom. And you almost like, he
• 53:01
  Speaker 9: was already ahead of the game because he was already
• 53:03
  Speaker 9: kind of making fun of indie films within that movie.
• 53:07
  Speaker 9: Like they do all those scenes of like, it's the
• 53:09
  Speaker 9: dream sequences. And actually you've got, what's his name from
• 53:14
  Speaker 9: Game of Thrones? That was like one of his early...
• 53:17
  Speaker 9: Steve Richon? Yeah, Dinklage is in it. And he, making comments,
• 53:22
  Speaker 9: he's like, why in these movies are there always midgets
• 53:25
  Speaker 9: in dreams? You know, it's like, this is the only
• 53:28
  Speaker 9: role I can get. So you've got him making, like,
• 53:29
  Speaker 9: this really smart-ass comment about indie films, like, in the
• 53:33
  Speaker 9: middle of the 90s when, you know, you're at the
• 53:35
  Speaker 9: peak of that kind of stuff, just sort of itting.
• 53:38
  Speaker 9: So again, he's a very smart filmmaker.
• 53:40
  Speaker 11: Yeah, and like I said, sometimes you have ideas that
• 53:44
  Speaker 11: really work in your head, really work on paper, and
• 53:46
  Speaker 11: then you They just don't translate as well.
• 53:50
  Speaker 9: So then even the voiceover part, it starts with that,
• 53:56
  Speaker 9: it ends with that, but it's not like we're led
• 53:59
  Speaker 9: through the whole way with this weird voiceover.
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: It seems like I read somewhere there's a director's cut
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: without the voiceover because that wasn't a decision on the
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: part of the director.
• 54:05
  Speaker 9: Maybe so. Because it seems so jammed in there and
• 54:09
  Speaker 9: at the same time accomplishes nothing.
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: It kind of actually reminded me of the voiceover in
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: Assassination of Jesse James, another Brad Pitt movie. Because that
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: voiceover there seemed really out of place too. But I
• 54:18
  Speaker 5: love that movie. It's a great movie.
• 54:21
  Speaker 9: Yeah, especially that wrap up. I'm like, he comes on,
• 54:25
  Speaker 9: he tells you what may or may not have happened,
• 54:27
  Speaker 9: but nobody knows. Wait, what are you telling me then?
• 54:30
  Speaker 9: And then, like, what became of the shoe? And like, man,
• 54:34
  Speaker 9: nobody knows that either. Like, what was the point of
• 54:36
  Speaker 9: this voiceover?
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: It is very Billy Preston-like.
• 54:40
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's just, let's cap this off with something.
• 54:42
  Speaker 10: Sounds like you're describing Firewall with me, the sequel.
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 54:46
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, there's moments when it feels like it
• 54:49
  Speaker 9: could be that weird and surreal.
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: I could see David Lynch doing something like that with
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: his obsession with that era of music that he likes.
• 54:55
  Speaker 9: He would have used Chris Isaac.
• 54:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 54:57
  Speaker 9: With giant hair. I love Chris Isaac. But, yeah, I
• 55:01
  Speaker 9: don't know. I mean, there's so much of that that
• 55:03
  Speaker 9: gets weird. And, like, the first dream sequence there in
• 55:06
  Speaker 9: black and white with the girls. That other one with
• 55:09
  Speaker 9: him and the lizard and the gun again.
• 55:11
  Speaker 11: I'm like, what?
• 55:12
  Speaker 9: Again, it's like he's planting these seeds like he's going
• 55:15
  Speaker 9: to say something.
• 55:15
  Speaker 11: Or, like, the letter on the wall that he didn't
• 55:17
  Speaker 11: get in.
• 55:17
  Speaker 9: Or even that.
• 55:20
  Speaker 11: The Nancy Sinatra.
• 55:21
  Speaker 9: All that stuff writing on the wall. It's like, are
• 55:23
  Speaker 9: we supposed to assume that he was always Johnny Swain?
• 55:27
  Speaker 9: Or did he adopt that name? But by the next scene,
• 55:31
  Speaker 9: the friend's already calling him that. That's why I was like,
• 55:35
  Speaker 9: as he wrote that on the wall, I was like, okay,
• 55:37
  Speaker 9: is this him finding his identity and this is his
• 55:40
  Speaker 9: new rock star persona or something? But then now his
• 55:43
  Speaker 9: friends are calling him that like they've always called him that.
• 55:46
  Speaker 9: He's telling people, oh, that's always been my name. But again,
• 55:49
  Speaker 9: he's very.
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: The shoes are projecting it into their minds.
• 55:51
  Speaker 7: I guess.
• 55:52
  Speaker 9: He's very boastful in many situations.
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 55:56
  Speaker 9: I don't know what we're supposed to do with that either.
• 55:57
  Speaker 9: Is that a made-up persona? I don't know. There's so
• 56:02
  Speaker 9: much of this that doesn't make any sense. And yet
• 56:05
  Speaker 9: it's still kind of amazing to look at. Okay, kids,
• 56:16
  Speaker 9: we're wrapping up this discussion, but I feel like we've
• 56:18
  Speaker 9: just scratched.
• 56:19
  Speaker 6: The surface of this strange film.
• 56:21
  Speaker 9: I've since tried to explain what this movie is to
• 56:25
  Speaker 9: other people, and it's just so hard to pin down.
• 56:28
  Speaker 9: It's not like it's insane, crazy, or super surreal, or
• 56:31
  Speaker 9: anything like that. It just continues from scene to scene,
• 56:36
  Speaker 9: but oddly doesn't make any sense. Did we forget to
• 56:41
  Speaker 9: mention that the shoes fall from the sky in the beginning?
• 56:46
  Speaker 9: They just fall from heaven? Somebody threw them out a window?
• 56:50
  Speaker 9: I don't know. They just fall from the sky. It's
• 56:53
  Speaker 9: never really addressed again why they did.
• 56:55
  Speaker 11: So, I mean, what's the interesting part?
• 56:57
  Speaker 9: I don't know. We'll wrap it up. But I do
• 56:58
  Speaker 9: want to give you this one last scene as an
• 57:00
  Speaker 9: example of the sort of nonsense that takes place from
• 57:04
  Speaker 9: scene to scene. So Johnny and girlfriend number one are
• 57:07
  Speaker 9: hanging out in his apartment and he's playing music for her,
• 57:10
  Speaker 9: which by all accounts, he only has 145 of Ricky
• 57:14
  Speaker 9: Nelson and he just keeps flipping it over. Even though
• 57:16
  Speaker 9: it makes no sense, because he's got a full album
• 57:18
  Speaker 9: sleeve pinned to his wall of Ricky, but he keeps
• 57:21
  Speaker 9: playing that 145. But maybe he lost the record?
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 57:25
  Speaker 9: Anyway, she's completely not impressed with Ricky. She asks if
• 57:28
  Speaker 9: he can play something else. They get into a whole
• 57:30
  Speaker 9: thing about her not liking Ricky Nelson music. Then they
• 57:33
  Speaker 9: get into this odd discussion about a plant.
• 57:36
  Speaker 8: I thought you said this plant didn't need much attention.
• 57:39
  Speaker 6: Well, have you been watering it?
• 57:41
  Speaker 8: Of course I've been watering it. I think it was
• 57:43
  Speaker 8: dead when you gave it to me.
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't give you a dead plant.
• 57:51
  Speaker 9: Hey, does this plant look dead or not? Weird enough interaction.
• 58:01
  Speaker 9: So he then looks through his window across the street
• 58:04
  Speaker 9: and goes seeing the other creepy boyfriend, the photographer, through
• 58:07
  Speaker 9: his window. So he then goes chasing her down the stairs.
• 58:12
  Speaker 9: He gets about halfway down and she's lurking in the
• 58:14
  Speaker 9: shadows and suddenly asks him.
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: D called.
• 58:19
  Speaker 8: Gonna go grab a beer.
• 58:23
  Speaker 9: Can I wait upstairs until you come back?
• 58:29
  Speaker 11: If you want.
• 58:31
  Speaker 9: So she goes back upstairs in the apartment. It's been
• 58:35
  Speaker 9: like eight seconds since she walked out. When she was
• 58:38
  Speaker 9: just mad at him in the apartment and now suddenly
• 58:41
  Speaker 9: she asks if she can go wait for him upstairs
• 58:44
  Speaker 9: while he gets a beer? And he was chasing her.
• 58:47
  Speaker 9: Why did he bother? He was just trying to be cool,
• 58:50
  Speaker 9: I suppose, and had to play it off like he
• 58:52
  Speaker 9: wasn't chasing her down the stairs. But why did she
• 58:55
  Speaker 9: change her mind and go back upstairs? And then, as
• 58:59
  Speaker 9: she gets back up to the top of the stairs,
• 59:02
  Speaker 9: you'll hear her quietly put on the Ricky Nelson 45.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: What?
• 59:08
  Speaker 9: If you guys can figure out what's going on, on
• 59:10
  Speaker 9: in this movie, hopefully you've already watched it. If not,
• 59:13
  Speaker 9: go check it out. And if you can make any
• 59:15
  Speaker 9: sense out of some of the more unusual aspects of
• 59:18
  Speaker 9: this film, please write to us at geeksatmoviemeltdown.com and explain
• 59:22
  Speaker 9: things or just give us your general thoughts on the movie.
• 59:26
  Speaker 9: It's an odd one.
• 59:31
  Speaker 10: Speaking of technically bad movies have you seen.
• 59:34
  Speaker 9: Miami connection oh yes yes i have.
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: It's a special special alamo draft house we salute you
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: for bringing that one back so good are you familiar
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: with that greg.
• 59:47
  Speaker 11: Um yeah i know i know but i haven't seen it.
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah it's very funny that's another one we want to
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: screen here actually.
• 59:53
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it was funny. They showed it at Wild and Moldy.
• 59:57
  Speaker 9: After hours, they brought the staff in, and they sat there.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 9: So it's like a bunch of geeks that love movies anyway,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 9: sitting there just mostly laughing. There's not even much to
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 9: make fun of it. It's so amusing that you just
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 9: have to kind of go along for the whole ride
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 9: on that one.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 12: I like the, what was it called, when the music...
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 12: This kind of exposition in the storyline.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 9: The montage?
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 10: The bad ninjas.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: Oh, I see what you're saying. Where they tell the
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: movie story inside the song.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 10: Stupid cocaine.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 5: So what was it? Ninja bikers bringing cocaine to Florida.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: That happens.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 9: Stupid cocaine in it.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: I can't remember now. It's been a while since I've
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: seen it.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 10: But yeah, it's a good one. Could you please tell
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 10: me to put my comments in my pocket?
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 11: Leave your stupid comments in your pocket. That's actually, that
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 11: line is written in the original script.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 10: He didn't veer from the script at all.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 11: A little bit. The real script's even more unsayable.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to that portion of your program.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 11: Yeah, it's so great.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 10: I have to say, the book, that was just like,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 10: I'm glad I watched the movie right as the book
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 10: came out, because it was It's really good.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 11: Oh, right on.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 10: It's pretty honest, you know, pretty out there. Because it's like,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 10: how do you explain it?
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, I feel like that was the best
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 11: way to, like, share the experience, you know?
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a great book, and I'm looking forward to
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: the audio, too. Sounds like it'll be a good road
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: trip to you.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just some of the parts, I think the funniest
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: part was probably.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 10: Where He had one line, and he was coming out.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: He was coming out onto the roof, which is in
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: the parking lot, out of this little tin shack thing,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: and he can't get the line right or something.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 10: And it's the line he wrote.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 11: He probably throws his water bottle down.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 9: Oh, so that, yeah.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 11: That, I mean, that scene, you can watch that thing
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 11: on YouTube. You need to do it.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 9: I mean, since he had everything so scripted out, was
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 9: there improv room for you guys?
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 11: Not really. I mean, you pretty much had to stick to...
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 11: What he wrote.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 9: Where it would all fall apart. Carefully played.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: Did we ever discover where his personal fortune came from?
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 11: Apparently he was a really successful retail guy in the 80s,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 11: and I think that's, you know, there's more to it,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 11: but that's all that you can get.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 10: He's selling underwear now.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 11: Underwear, T-shirts, and everything.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 8: Jeans.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I visited the underwear website. I was tempted to
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: order some of those just for novelty's sake.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 9: Just says Tommy really big.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: Not to be confused with the other Tommy.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 9: Nope, there's only one.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: It's like a Highlander.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 11: Scare away all your future girlfriends.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 9: Right. That other two.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 5: Just make sure to get the hip-hop sag with the
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: Tommy sticking out. Good stuff.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 10: So has the experience of the rooms kind of brought you.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: two together as friends and kind of you know just
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: the whole phenomenon is that yeah i mean i.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 11: Think you know having known him as long as i
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 11: have and going through an experience like this you know
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 11: i think you're always going to have some sort of
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 11: you know bond after that but.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 10: Yeah like disaster victims.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 9: Or yeah exactly was there a point when you you
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 9: had to kind of question how far you could push
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 9: it without like upsetting him because i mean you you've
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 9: Got a very good sense of humor about it, but
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 9: Tommy's still convinced it's an amazing movie.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 11: Well, a lot of things, like when I interviewed him
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 11: for the book, I tried to get a feeling to
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 11: do really an honest portrait of him and what he
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 11: thinks and not put stuff in there that I felt
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 11: like wasn't necessary.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 10: Do you think it hurts him a little bit that
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 10: the movie is seen the way it is?
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 11: I think he just sees the people that show up
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 11: and then just looks at it that way.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's amazing, really, to have that kind of,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: you know, here you are in Winsborough, Kentucky, talking about
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: this movie that was on a billboard in L.A.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 10: For five years.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, how long was the billboard out?
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 11: Five years. Was it five?
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 5: I couldn't remember.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 9: Did he originally have plans to do more with it,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 9: and does he still? Like, in his mind, is there
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 9: a sequel that he needs to put out?
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 11: I think he wants to make other movies, but I
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 11: don't know, I don't think he ever thought of a sequel.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 5: He was wanting to do 3-D for a while, right?
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I think when the whole 3D thing took off,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 11: he was interested in that. I don't want to see
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 11: those sex scenes in 3D. By the time he puts
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 11: it in 3D, I think the 3D thing will be
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 11: capering off.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 9: I think there is a way to, again, expand what's
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 9: already out there. We were discussing Lebowski Fest earlier. You
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 9: could almost build an entire event around that movie and
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 9: expand on it and make it a running thing. It
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 9: is something like that you could do.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 11: I think he tours almost every month somewhere with the movie,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 11: so it's kind of like that. But yeah, I think
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 11: doing a once-a-year thing would be cool.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 9: That would be interesting.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 10: It would make a great play.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 5: I think they did a stage version, right?
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 11: Yeah, like a while back, like one night.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 10: I've got cancer.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: Can you tell us anything about your new movie you're
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 5: working on?
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I did a movie with the guys who do
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 11: five-second films. They're doing a feature called Um, it's kind
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 11: of a spoof horror comedy. Uh, it was really, really
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 11: fun to be a part of and kind of do
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 11: something new. Uh, Patton Oswalt is going to be in it,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 11: Andrew WK and a couple other people. And it comes
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 11: out later this year, but, um, yeah, it's like this
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 11: fraternity of guys that kind of run and keep, they
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 11: keep running into these murders and there's no one or two,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 11: it's just number three. So, um, I think it's going
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 11: to be, it's going to be great.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 9: Nice.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: I didn't know Andrew WK was acting now. I know
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: we had a discussion about that earlier. That should be
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 5: interesting to see. His shows are a trip. I've seen
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: them on video. I've never been to one, but he.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 10: He parties hard.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah. He's got like a... Is it the New York
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 5: Times he writes for now? It was some legit source,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 5: and he does like... People write questions in, and he
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: answers them. There was this really sincere thing he wrote
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 5: to a kid writing in about... I guess his dog
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: had to be put to sleep. His parents knew it
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 5: was time for the dog to be put to sleep,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: but he didn't want to accept it, and he wrote
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: in to Andrew WK about it, and like, It's a
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: real heartfelt, very emotional answer to this kid's question.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 10: In juxtaposition to his music, he's really intellectual. In his music,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 10: he just likes, I guess, to get out of the system.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: Most of his music sounds exactly the same, but it's
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 5: all super fun. But he's actually a classically trained pianist.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: He can really play. But it's Dude Bro Party Massacre 3, right?
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to that. It sounds hilarious.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 9: Do you know where that's going to end up as
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 9: far as distribution?
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 11: I'm not sure. I think it's going to be at Sundance,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 11: but for now. I know it's probably going to be
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 11: at the end of this year.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 9: I was going to ask your thoughts on the way
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 9: the system has changed, even just since you've started, and
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 9: especially since he was trying to put the room together.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 9: This new world has opened up in these last 10
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 9: years that just continues to get bigger with indie films,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 9: and now we've got digital distribution, and we've got Netflix,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 9: and all these other online capabilities that are out there.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: So I don't know.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 9: What has it been like working with it the other way,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 9: and how much have you seen it change with people
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 9: trying to get their product out there?
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 11: It's definitely a lot easier to get your stuff out there.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 11: It doesn't feel as exclusive, you know. You have movies
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 11: coming out on theaters, and then they're out on Netflix
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 11: right away. Maybe I was even a new.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 10: There's some releases I think you buy on Vimeo.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 9: And some stuff they're releasing online first, and then if
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 9: it gets a good response, they're going to different cities
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 9: with it, which is totally opposite.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 11: Of what you would expect. Yeah, I mean, it's definitely
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 11: a lot more efficient.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 11: But it used to be kind of cool to have
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 11: a movie come out, and then you have to wait
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 11: for a DVD. But I think the goal is to
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 11: have people see your work, and, you know, it's like
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 11: True Detective. You can get it on, you know, on
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 11: Amazon now. And so, you know, I think for a consumer,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 11: it's great.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 9: Do you have your own movie ideas? Do you want
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 9: to get into directing?
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 11: I think it would be a heck of a challenge.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 11: I'd definitely be down for it. Really just kind of
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 11: staying creative and working on things that I'm really into.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 11: I learned my lesson. You never know what project you're
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 11: going to do that an audience is going to respond to.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 11: So ideally working on something that you're really into, I think,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 11: is what I'm looking for. like the book was something
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 11: that was kind of the first time I ever had
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 11: creative control on a project and it was it was
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 11: a great experience to be able to do that so
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 11: I'd love to do more projects like that I.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: Want to start my own campaign to have you cast
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: as Nathan Drake in Uncharted the movie throw that out
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: there to the.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 11: Internet yeah That sounds pretty cool.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 9: If you can get that great Kickstarter.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 9: I think you have to fight Nathan Fillion for that one.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 9: They kept throwing that around for him.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 5: Right. It was Nathan Fillion and I think Bradley Cooper
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: for a while. It's been in a few different hands.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 11: You make a great movie. Kind of like a new
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 11: version of Indiana Jones.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: Sure, yeah.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 5: It's a very cinematic game.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 9: Which we kind of need, really, after that fourth one.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 9: It'd be interesting to just see that actually work well
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 9: with just handing it off to somebody else.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 5: They talked about making a fifth one, right? Didn't they
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: say Shia?
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's still sort of up in the air.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 5: Didn't they talk about handing the reins to Shia for
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 5: a while?
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 9: I think even early on they went, that's not good.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I think that ended pretty fast.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 9: But I think they were actually going to bring Harrison
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 9: Ford back to do a fifth one. Like, he's breaking ankles.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 9: He can't run around and be indie anymore.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 11: I think it would be good to have him kind
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 11: of in the dad role like Last Crusade.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 9: That would be good it would be interesting yeah for
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 9: it to be full circle as far as his career
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 9: to now be playing the older Indra's.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 5: Game was actually pretty decent I don't know if you
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 5: got a chance to see.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 9: That I saw parts of it I don't know I
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 9: was not I was not clicking I'm not I got
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 9: the point of what they were going for but it
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 9: just seemed like it was a lot of down.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: Time yeah the pacing was a little off but visually
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 5: it was good and.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 9: The performances were okay special effects were good Harrison Ford
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 9: was there Mr. Gruff doing his thing Get off my spaceship.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 9: Whatever he says now.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 10: Get off my plane.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 9: Well, I guess what is the best way for people
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 9: to find you and see what you're doing as far
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 9: as touring or find out more about the book or.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 11: All of that? You can get the book pretty much,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 11: I guess, wherever books are sold. I do have a website.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 11: It's thedisasterartistbook.com, and it has tour dates and kind of
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 11: updates with the book, so.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 9: and then just go find you touring about the country.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 9: How many of these are you doing?
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 11: I've done quite a few. I've gone just about everywhere
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 11: there is to go at this point. I've got a
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 11: few dates left. The paperback release comes out in October,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 11: so I'm going to probably be doing something at the
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 11: American Film Institute in Washington, D.C., and a few more things.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 11: And obviously with the adaptation, I'm sure it will continue
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 11: with that.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 9: I think that would work out, yeah, once that. it's,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 9: I think a lot more people will come looking for
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 9: your book. So that's good for you. That'll tie in
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 9: really well. Well, I thank you for being here with us.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 9: Thank you guys for letting us come hang around in
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 9: the building. You want to promote what you guys have
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 9: going on here?
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: Uh, yeah.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 5: I mean, we're doing our, uh, our schlock Rama bad
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 5: movie festival still like, uh, it's, The weird way our
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 5: licenses work for that, we can't actually say the titles
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: when we publicly advertise for the upcoming shows.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 9: I've played that game too.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we can say plot descriptions, but yeah, we've got
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 5: two more of those coming up. One on August 8th,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 5: and I can tell you the film is about giant
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 5: bunny rabbits attacking the Southwest.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 9: We may or may not have already covered that.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: Right, maybe.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: We can play the trailer, but it's basically the title
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: of it.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the trailer. I love the old trailer.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 9: That trailer was so good because they specifically, I guess
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 9: the people putting the trailer together maybe weren't the filmmakers,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 9: which is usually how it goes anyway. And they realized,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 9: this is ridiculous. We can't market this. So they specifically
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 9: cut it to look like a great horror movie. It
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 9: is just kind of weird and creepy, and you don't
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 9: see the monster like most good trailers should do.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 5: And they just say the title like 1,000 times in
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 5: like two minutes.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 9: And even then, they specifically titled it something that no
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 9: one in this country knows what that means.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 5: But that one's on August 8th, and we're going to
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 5: have John Kenneth Muir, who's an author who's wrote a
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 5: lot about various horror films, and he has a book
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 5: that has parts of this movie or parts about this
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 5: movie in it. And we are showing our last film
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 5: on August 22nd. And I can tell you, it's about
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: a Dungeons & Dragons student. Or a student in college, rather,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 5: that kind of gets obsessed with a Dungeons & Dragons-like game.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 5: His parents pull him out of one college, move him
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 5: to another. Then he plays a live-action role-playing game and
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 5: goes crazy. And that night, we're actually starting at 6.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 5: Based on a true story.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 7: Well.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 9: That character also liked to dress in drag. This is
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 9: all the same story, right? Right. Around that same time.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 5: It starts running together. But with that one, we're starting
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 5: at 6. Usually these start at 7.30 because we're playing
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 5: Dungeons & Dragons with a scenario designed by someone on
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 5: staff who is actually a Dungeons & Dragons author, a
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 5: published author. It's not Gary Gax.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 9: He's a really hard get these days.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 5: But he has designed a campaign with characters from this movie,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 5: so we're going to play through that for an hour
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 5: and a half. Yeah, it should be fun. And also
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 5: we have something called Volumes of Blood. This will be
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 5: my last plug, I promise. Volumes of Blood is an
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 5: original horror anthology. Some libraries make a killing.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 5: That's the tagline. We have a regional film retrospective here
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 5: called Unscripted. And what that is, people from the area,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 5: sometimes out of state, maybe like people who live in L.A.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 5: but have a connection to Owensboro, we show their short films.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 5: Then the director will talk about them either in person
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 5: or via remote. Then we'll show the film again and
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 5: do a live commentary. It's pretty successful. We make a
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: good night out of it. We'll give away bad movie posters.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 5: We'll give away gift cards from movie rental places. We
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 5: still have a couple of those. They're usually really fun,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 5: but a film school component was added to that. The
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 5: last one we did, two shorts were shot. We have
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 5: two floors at this library that the public can access.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 5: We had an open submission for screenplays. We solicited 10-page screenplays,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 5: roughly like a 10-minute film And we took those submissions in,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 5: and then a panel selected two of those. And then
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 5: we had two directors who have actually made projects come
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 5: into the library with a crew made up of people
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 5: with experience and amateurs. They made two films here, one
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 5: of which went on to festivals and has been written
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 5: about on Ain't It Cool and a few other bigger websites.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 5: So that has expanded for this next go-round. Here in
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 5: like two weeks, I think, we're going to start shooting
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 5: the first of five horror anthology, or excuse me, vignettes.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 5: and then they'll be tied together with a wraparound. So
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 5: it'll be like a feature-length film with just different parts
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 5: to it. But yeah, it's Volumes of Blood, and it's
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 5: being overseen by a local filmmaker named PJ Starks.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 9: He was cast on it.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was the two of us that did the
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 5: Festival of Films interview on this show. But yeah, it
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 5: should be good. We have a Kickstarter up for it now.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 5: That's being ran by PJ. That's an independent thing of
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 5: the library. But if you go to Kickstarter and look
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 5: for Volumes of Blood... If you want to get involved,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of cool little prizes, including the chance
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 5: to have a role on it. The film's got people from...
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 5: I know one person who was involved with Dawn of
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 5: the Dead is in it. I'm blanking on the name
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 5: right now. But there are some pretty cool people attached
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 5: to it now.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 9: But yeah, it should be good.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 5: And I think they're aiming for that to release in 2015.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: I'm a producer, so I should probably know these things.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: But I don't know.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 5: I'm learning as I go.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 10: If you go to the Kickstarter page, it'll help. by
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 10: the volumes of blood that are used for the movie.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what that budget's for, special effects and stuff.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 5: It's going to happen even if the Kickstarter doesn't get met,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 5: but that's just going to make it a lot cooler
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 5: if we can get that little extra bit of money.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 9: All right. Well, thank you for hosting us.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: No problem.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 9: Thank you for sitting in with us, Greg.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 11: Thank you.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 10: I have one question. Did Angry Birds have to pay
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 10: commissions for the music from the room?
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: I was watching the room, and I thought, this sounds
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: just like Angry Birds.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 11: Now that you mention it, I think you're right. I
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 11: have to go back and try that out.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 5: The score is interesting. I love the R & B music.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 5: I read the R & B person actually was like
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 5: the Sunday Rose song that was on American Idol.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 11: Yeah, a few years back.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 9: They did that Star Wars version of Angry Birds. Can
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 9: we get a room.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 11: Version of Angry Birds? That would be great.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 9: They were supposed to do a Kiss version of Angry
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 9: Birds too.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 5: That would have been interesting. Selling those little birds.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 9: I think that's the way to do it.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 9: Otherwise, that about does it. We will return next week.
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  Speaker 9: Same geek time, same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
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  Speaker 8: All right, D, give me some of that rockin' beat.
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  Speaker 3: I want to work in Midtown.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 9: Wear a three-piece suit.
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  Speaker 8: I want to hire a limo Just to hear my
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  Speaker 8: driver toot I want a fancy penthouse So high it's hit.
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  Speaker 11: From the middle.
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  Speaker 8: Cause when I have these things I want Then I.
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  Speaker 3: Won't want you You're just a girl with a look
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  Speaker 3: on your.
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  Speaker 7: Face Nothing much more than that.
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  Speaker 3: I'll find another girl to take your place And.
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  Speaker 8: I'll do it in seconds flat.
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  Speaker 5: Do it in seconds.
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  Speaker 9: Flat I wanna meet a model Who's only got one
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  Speaker 9: name She'll.
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  Speaker 8: Take me out to parties You treat.
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  Speaker 3: Me to cocaine I wanna make her love me Just
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  Speaker 3: like you used to do Cause when I have these
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: things I want.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 10: Then I won't want you I.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 7: Like the song I'm not really sure what it's about,
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  Speaker 7: but I liked it.
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  Speaker 11: Leave your stupid comments in your pocket.
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• 1:19:40
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• 1:19:42
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• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: Talk hard!