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Ian Furness 11/3 H1: Everyone's SO angry! Mike speaks and the path to the playoffs. · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KJR
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  Speaker 1: Coors Light, Choose Chill. We'll wait on the Seahawks for
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  Speaker 1: a second. Let's tell you about this breaking news. This morning,
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  Speaker 1: Mariners have hired a new manager. Jason Kanzler will become
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  Speaker 1: the 22nd manager in club history. Previously, the director of
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  Speaker 1: player development for the Chicago Cubs. He also served on
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  Speaker 1: the Astros coaching staff in 2022 and 2023. Jerry DiPoto said, quote,
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  Speaker 1: our goal in this process was finding a manager with
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  Speaker 1: the ability to challenge all of us to improve. End quote.
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  Speaker 1: Kanzler will be introduced in the media tomorrow at 2 p.m.
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  Speaker 1: We'll carry that live for you. Get to hear from
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  Speaker 1: him for the very first time. Monday Night Football didn't
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  Speaker 1: go to the Seahawks' way last night. That's an understatement.
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  Speaker 1: Bears rolled to a 34-17 win. Sam Darnold, 188, two touchdowns, interceptions,
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  Speaker 1: sacked three times. Price, Charbonnet combined for just 52 yards
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  Speaker 1: on 16 carries. Arizona Gardner Minshew comes to town on
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  Speaker 1: Sunday at 125. Jeremiah Love, their top running back, is
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  Speaker 1: on the IR, high ankle injury, so he will not play.
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  Speaker 1: And again, Minshew will take over and start in place
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  Speaker 1: of Jacoby Brissett. Here we go. Welcome in. Here we
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  Speaker 1: are on a Tuesday after Monday Night Football. Here's what
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  Speaker 1: we're doing today. 49451, that's the Tacoma Dutch text line,
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  Speaker 1: but we want to hear your voices. And Ashley, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to make the request as we come back from breaks,
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  Speaker 1: if we can sprinkle in one or two, if we
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  Speaker 1: get some talkbacks at 49451, or sorry, at the iHeartRadio app,
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  Speaker 1: red microphone, speak into that for 30 seconds or less.
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  Speaker 1: Seahawks conversation, thoughts on last night. I'll tease it up
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  Speaker 1: in a second with something I'm looking for from you.
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  Speaker 1: And then Mariners hire the new manager. So we'll get
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  Speaker 1: your thoughts today. I'm going to start with the Mariners
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  Speaker 1: and just kind of move on because we're going to
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  Speaker 1: carry the news conference tomorrow at live. We'll get right
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  Speaker 1: to the Seahawks in a second. Let me just start
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  Speaker 1: quickly with the Mariners. They hire Jason Kanzler today. He's young,
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  Speaker 1: graduated high school in 08, makes us all feel old.
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  Speaker 2: High school in 08?
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, God. Yeah, Greg, I guess, had one of his
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  Speaker 1: classmates on or something. So, yeah, that's awesome, fun. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: so Kanzler gets hired, and the immediate reaction is very predictable. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: here's Jerry again, a guy with no, he can make
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  Speaker 1: him a puppet, blah, blah, blah, all these things. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: and I understand that. And if you've listened to the
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  Speaker 1: show ever, I'm hard on the baseball team, probably as
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  Speaker 1: hard on them as anybody on this station, certainly right
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  Speaker 1: up there with Softie. I'm not the morning show. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not them. I'm the other side. But I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: say with this hire, can we just give it some
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  Speaker 1: time to breathe, please?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I don't understand.
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  Speaker 1: Can we just... Instead of the immediate reaction, and I
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  Speaker 1: know everyone's in a pissed off mood today because of
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  Speaker 1: the Seahawks. I get it. Which is fair. Totally fair.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sideways with my stupid basketball team last night.
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  Speaker 1: The Cougs had just had two kids sitting on a
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  Speaker 1: podium saying, yeah, we shouldn't have the effort. It's game one,
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  Speaker 1: you dipstick.
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  Speaker 2: How do you not come out with effort for your
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  Speaker 2: first game of the season?
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. So I'm mad about a lot of things. Seahawks, that,
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  Speaker 1: whatever else.
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  Speaker 2: As you should be.
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  Speaker 1: But before we get mad at the football team in
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  Speaker 1: a second, and we will... Can we just take a
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  Speaker 1: step back and a deep breath for a minute? You
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  Speaker 1: haven't even heard this guy speak.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I did actually make a couple calls today because I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to find out from inside the building at T-Mobile,
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  Speaker 1: what do we need to know? And the word I
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  Speaker 1: got back was very intense, very smart, has the command
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  Speaker 1: of a room when he walks in, and has kind
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  Speaker 1: of that it factor.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Check, check, check, check. And that's exactly what this
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  Speaker 1: team needs. Now, I know what most of you are
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  Speaker 1: going to say. Well, it's just going to be Jerry's puppet. Whatever.
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  Speaker 1: You don't know that.
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  Speaker 4: And they were going to think no matter who got hired,
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  Speaker 4: it was going to be Jerry's puppet.
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  Speaker 1: If it was Aranda or whatever his name is, the
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  Speaker 1: guy got fired by the Astros. Do you think it
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  Speaker 1: would be any different?
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  Speaker 4: Because they're convinced that Jerry's only going to hire someone
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  Speaker 4: he feels like he can puppet.
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  Speaker 1: 100% Ash. And But can we just take a step back?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Let's wait until tomorrow. We'll carry it at two. Deep breath.
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  Speaker 1: Deep breath. Let's give the guy a flipping chance, man.
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  Speaker 1: The thing about him being really intense and commanding a room, listen,
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  Speaker 1: and this is not, I don't want to disparage Dan
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  Speaker 1: Wilson because I just don't want to do that. But
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  Speaker 1: Dan was so laid back and so mellow. And those
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  Speaker 1: are traits. I can't speak on a man's intelligence. I
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  Speaker 1: think Dan's a smart guy. I'm sure he is. But
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  Speaker 1: in terms of having that it factor and all those things,
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  Speaker 1: maybe that wasn't a strength for Dan Wilson. Maybe he
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  Speaker 1: was too nice of a guy for that particular position.
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  Speaker 1: So let's just take a deep breath. We'll worry about
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  Speaker 1: him tomorrow at 2 o'clock.
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  Speaker 4: We already got a text. We've given this organization 50
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  Speaker 4: years to show us they know what the hell they're doing.
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  Speaker 1: I get it.
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  Speaker 2: This is another example of them doing the same thing
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  Speaker 2: and it doesn't work out. But you don't know that.
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  Speaker 1: You don't know that. And again, I feel you. I've
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  Speaker 1: been a fan since 77. I was in elementary school
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  Speaker 1: when they started. I've seen every year. More than many
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  Speaker 1: of you that are younger, I know. I know.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm going to give them a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt.
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  Speaker 2: And everybody should.
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  Speaker 4: I understand the frustrations, especially coming off this very disappointing season.
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  Speaker 2: I get it.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: But you can't immediately assume that any move they make
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  Speaker 4: is going to be a bad decision.
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  Speaker 2: At that point, then why are you even following them?
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  Speaker 1: Why are you a fan? Why are you liking them?
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  Speaker 1: If you're just going to write them off right then
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  Speaker 1: and there, then why? Yeah. Anyway.
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  Speaker 2: They're even mad about when they announced the hiring of
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  Speaker 2: the manager. It's like, what?
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  Speaker 4: What? It's election day, and then after that Monday night
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  Speaker 4: football loss, very M's-ish to announce it.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, I'm a big fan of announcing things on a
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  Speaker 1: certain time. I kind of got into somebody that I
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  Speaker 1: worked for last night with the Kraken about that. Not
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  Speaker 1: the jersey, something else. You know, there's a reason teams
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  Speaker 1: announce things when they do that we don't always see.
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  Speaker 1: If they had come to an agreement, it was going
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  Speaker 1: to get out. So they're having the news conference tomorrow,
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  Speaker 1: not today.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. It's not like they.
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  Speaker 4: They're like, oh, news conference will be at 9 or
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  Speaker 4: at 6 p.m., right, when everyone's trying to get their
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  Speaker 4: ballots in a ballot box.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And really, if you're waiting this long, first of all,
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  Speaker 1: please vote.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever you want to vote for.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't matter who you're voting for or how you're voting.
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  Speaker 1: Just do it. But probably shouldn't have waited until today.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I have mine to drop off. They've already been filled out.
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  Speaker 4: I just have to drop them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and I say that as someone that dropped
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  Speaker 1: his off yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: But you did it 24 hours early.
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  Speaker 1: 24 hours early.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So.
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  Speaker 1: Deep breath. We'll get to it. We'll see you tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, and we'll, we'll get to him a little bit tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: We got a lot of Seahawks stuff to get to today.
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  Speaker 1: A lot. Uh, we'll start first with, uh, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: hear more from Mike McDonald before the end of the hour. The,
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  Speaker 1: the game last night, you know, every now and then
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  Speaker 1: you have those games that you're just like, they happen
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  Speaker 1: and you get your ass kicked and no matter how
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  Speaker 1: good you are. I mean, I think Ohio State's a
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  Speaker 1: really good football team. They got tuned up. Now, they
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  Speaker 1: had quarterback issues, but really even that wasn't if you
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  Speaker 1: look at stats. It was other things, defensively specifically, by
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  Speaker 1: USC the other day. Stuff happens. But that was really
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  Speaker 1: out of the ordinary for a Mike McDonald team to
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  Speaker 1: get schooled to the level that they did. And we
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  Speaker 1: know that it never happened last year on the way
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  Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. That long streak of never losing
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  Speaker 1: a game by more than four points and all that.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the thing. When you go one for 11 on
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  Speaker 1: third down, when the other team is four for four
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  Speaker 1: in the red zone, and you're one for four, you
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  Speaker 1: aren't going to win a football game. You're just not.
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  Speaker 1: The officiating was god-awful, 100%. The officiating was brutal. The
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  Speaker 1: officiating was absolutely brutal. But at the same time, I
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  Speaker 1: just gave you the two numbers that just jump off
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  Speaker 1: the page at me. One for 11 on third down.
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  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: Opposition 4-4-4 in the red zone. There are some red
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  Speaker 1: flags in that regard. Top of the list of the
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  Speaker 1: red flags? Top of the list of the red flags
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  Speaker 1: for Seattle would be, and I know this is not
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  Speaker 1: what people want to hear, they want to blame the offense,
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  Speaker 1: and rightfully so, we'll get to them. You are 32nd
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL in red zone defense. A Mike McDonald
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  Speaker 1: football team. And Mike McDonald, one of the best defensive minds.
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  Speaker 1: Those aren't my words. Those are Hugh Millen's and Greg Cosell's,
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  Speaker 1: guys that really know the game. One of the best
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  Speaker 1: defensive minds in football, if not the best one. They
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  Speaker 1: are 32nd in red zone defense. That's just inexcusable.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's not sustainable. That's not what a playoff team would have.
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  Speaker 1: A playoff team's not going to be 32nd in red
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  Speaker 1: zone defense. And then on top of that, you're 29th
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  Speaker 1: in red zone offense. the only way you stop them
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  Speaker 1: is by doing what you did against Kansas city and
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  Speaker 1: not allowing them inside the red zone. Right? Like that's it.
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  Speaker 1: This team has got a lot of issues, but they
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  Speaker 1: have time to make it up. How much time? Not
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  Speaker 1: as much as you think, but I found the path,
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  Speaker 1: which I'll get into here in the next segment. I
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  Speaker 1: found the path to the post season, Ashley.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll, I'll go a step further. It's actually a
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  Speaker 1: little bit brighter when I look historically at the 17-game
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  Speaker 1: season than I thought it was. But the path, while
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  Speaker 1: it exists, I'll spell it out really simply for you
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  Speaker 1: in the next segment. It is challenging. You have a
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  Speaker 1: lot of work to do, and now your margin of
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  Speaker 1: error is next to none. Like, slim, slim, slim. But
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  Speaker 1: it's there. and there is a little glimmer of hope
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  Speaker 1: historically better than I thought in the 17-game schedule. But
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  Speaker 1: when you get so thoroughly whipped, as you did last night,
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  Speaker 1: in every phase of the game, your special teams were awful.
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  Speaker 1: Your punter gives you a chance to pin them not
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  Speaker 1: once but twice inside the five.
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  Speaker 2: Just picturing that slide into the end zone right now.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I've mentioned this to Greg. You see that
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  Speaker 1: in college and the NFL every weekend multiple times. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have to touch the ball. I can't believe
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  Speaker 1: guys aren't coached out of that. At what point do
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  Speaker 1: you understand that you're sliding on turf and there's no
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  Speaker 1: way to put the brakes on? What are you accomplishing?
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  Speaker 1: Don't be a hero. Pritchett made the play.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was perfect.
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  Speaker 1: And Thomas screwed it up. Mike Morris on a return
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  Speaker 1: after getting a sack for him. Good for him, gets
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  Speaker 1: a sack. Then he just said, you know what, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to throw a guy out of bounds. Just dumb play.
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  Speaker 1: Jason Myers continues to be unreliable. He didn't have a chance,
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  Speaker 1: I think, on the block, but you can't miss an
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  Speaker 1: extra point. Those four points loomed large. So large.
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  Speaker 2: It's so ugly, too.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have a No. 2 receiver. You can't run
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  Speaker 1: the football. And your quarterback looks like a deer in
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  Speaker 1: the headlights.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the running of the football was, I think,
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  Speaker 4: the most disappointing for me offensively. Just from where we
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  Speaker 4: were last week and having Emmanuel Wilson get the 100 yards.
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  Speaker 4: And you're thinking, okay, we're going in the right direction
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  Speaker 4: now with this. And then now we're going to get
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  Speaker 4: Price and Charbonnet back. We're going to get to 100
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  Speaker 4: yards easily every time.
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  Speaker 3: Or not.
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  Speaker 1: Jadarian Price, 10 carries for 29. Zach Charbonnet, 6 carries
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  Speaker 1: for 23. Helani did have one carry for 9. If
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  Speaker 1: I believe correctly, that was kind of it. It didn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: So Price and Charbonnet, 16 carries for 52 yards. Not
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  Speaker 1: good enough.
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  Speaker 2: Not at all. Not even close.
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  Speaker 1: And Charbonnet, out of his 6 for 23, 13 came
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  Speaker 1: on one run. So 5 others for 10.
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  Speaker 4: And they just looked off, which I understand, you know,
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  Speaker 4: that they haven't played in a game, but Charbonnet's been
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  Speaker 4: in practice for two weeks, and they looked, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: anytime he was getting thrown the ball, it was like
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  Speaker 4: they were on completely different pages.
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  Speaker 1: Different pages. Jackson Smith and Jigba, six targets, four catches,
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  Speaker 1: 92 yards in the first half. Keep in mind, six
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  Speaker 1: and four. He had two catches in the second half.
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  Speaker 1: He had two. Five targets, two catches in the second half.
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  Speaker 1: It just, you don't have a number two receiver. Torrey
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  Speaker 1: Horton has to be better. He hasn't been. His biggest issue,
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  Speaker 1: I thought, was just staying healthy. No, he's got other issues, apparently.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk about that with Hugh Millen coming up at
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  Speaker 1: one o'clock today. From a hardcore standpoint, how hard is
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  Speaker 1: it for a quarterback when he's got one guy? Cooper Cupps,
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  Speaker 1: a shout out. This has got to be Cooper Cupps
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  Speaker 1: last season.
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  Speaker 2: I would think so.
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  Speaker 1: I hate to say that. Got to be it. Barner
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  Speaker 1: had two catches for 23. They've got to find a
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  Speaker 1: way to use him more. Yeah, everything about this game,
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  Speaker 1: and it's one game, but it's not one game, guys.
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  Speaker 1: It was a big game. It's a big game. It's also,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of things here that are microcosm and
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  Speaker 1: examples of what we've seen throughout the year with this
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  Speaker 1: football team. So when you put it all together, there's
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  Speaker 1: some troubling signs. There's some really troubling signs. Here's the thing, too.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of these dudes have been paid already.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I just want you to think about that for a second.
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  Speaker 1: This is different than 2014, the year after they won
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  Speaker 1: the first Super Bowl. Most of those guys had not
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  Speaker 1: been paid yet. There was still a hunger. These guys
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  Speaker 1: have all been paid. I don't know. You can draw
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  Speaker 1: your own conclusions to that.
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  Speaker 2: That's a sad way to think about it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, are we fat and happy?
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  Speaker 2: I hope not, but.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think that's the mindset
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  Speaker 1: of this team.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't think so.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 4: Not with these players, not with Mike McDonald, I wouldn't think.
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  Speaker 4: I wonder if there is some complacency. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard for me not being in that room every
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  Speaker 1: day like I was back then. But I know back
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  Speaker 1: then in that room, there was a hunger, there was
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  Speaker 1: a desire, and part of it was those guys hadn't
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  Speaker 1: been paid, by and large. Most of those guys had
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  Speaker 1: not been paid. And I say been paid, their second contracts.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And then we saw what happened. Cam holds out. Earl
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  Speaker 1: stands around. Blah, blah, blah. All those things happen. Marshawn's Marshawn.
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  Speaker 1: Russell is acrimonious at best in terms of talking about
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  Speaker 1: his contract. We had the famous interview that, that, uh,
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  Speaker 1: Puck and I did up in, uh, at Sunkavia for
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  Speaker 1: his golf tournament. And he's like, I'm not a bad businessman.
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  Speaker 1: If you remember that, you know, like, like there was
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  Speaker 1: a lot going on, but those guys are all hungry
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  Speaker 1: to get paid and also hungry to repeat. These guys,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to say they're not because that's unfair
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  Speaker 1: for me to say that. I will say that the
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  Speaker 1: personalities are so vastly different from the two teams that
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  Speaker 1: That team was a walking egomaniac.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they were.
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  Speaker 1: A collective 53 egos that were just huge, massive. These
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  Speaker 1: guys are a lot nicer. They're a lot easier to
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  Speaker 1: deal with. They're a lot more, they're just, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to say laid back, but the personality is different.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that will pay off because now with their backs
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  Speaker 1: against the wall and with everything against them, they've got
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  Speaker 1: to hit a switch. So maybe that will pay off.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that'll pay off and we'll see these guys get better.
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  Speaker 1: But right now, there's a lot to be concerned about.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: As I said, though, there is a path. The path
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: is pretty easy to lay out. And I'll do it
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: next segment after we hear from Mike McDonald, because I
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: think I want you guys to take a listen to
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald and get your impressions of Mike. On a
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: day in which we're blasting the Mariners for the guy
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: they've hired that you haven't even heard speak yet.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're so mad.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: You know, so mad. I want you to hear what
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: Mike had to say. He kind of sounded like, to me,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to say what he sounded like. I'll
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: let you guys draw a conclusion. But a massive challenge
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: for him. Massive challenge for this team. They get Arizona
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: with a backup quarterback, Go Cougs, and backup running backs.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Team that, though, just did come off a nice win.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Decided they were going to go down and beat Dallas.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: They're not going to be a pushover. 100% not. You've
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: got two games before you get the bye week, so
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: That's coming up. But I'll go through the path, but
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: I'll just tease you with this. That path does not
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: include the division. You're not playing home games this year
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I think you need to kind of
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: just accept that fact right now.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: Well, and there's a lot of people who would say
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: if you are going to try to win the conference,
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: win the NFC, you're going to have to go through Chicago.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: I think that might be the case. They are damn impressive. Yeah,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: they are.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: And they'll be at home.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Green Bay is the interesting one to me because if
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: and when they get Micah Parsons back, Josh Jacobs is
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: the wild card. They're a different team with him. But that's...
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure why or how he's playing right now,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: to be honest with you. I'm baffled, yeah.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: Because there was even more stuff that came out, and
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: I'm like, but yet... No, he's still in the lineup?
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Unlike Ray Reiser wasn't video in the elevator, so I
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: guess that's okay.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: That's the difference.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: We can forgive it.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: We can just wait until we really have to pull him.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: But they.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Tough night last night.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Sorry.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Tough one.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: It was.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: Thanks, Dan.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Tough one last night. I used that line last week
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: after the Kraken loss. Only a couple of guys got it.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Tough one tonight. I got a couple of texts from
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: people right away. Are you kidding me? Sometimes it's, you
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: know what? Dan had it right, man. Sometimes it's appropriate
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: to say it. Tough one tonight. Okay. Here's what I
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: want you guys to do. Talk backs. Go to the
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: red iHeart microphone on the iHeart app. You vent, you scream,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: you yell, you holler. Tell us what your thoughts are
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: after that loss last night by the Seahawks. You can
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: also chime in on the Mariners, but I, again, I'd
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: kind of want to wait for that tomorrow, but you
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: can chime on that too. And I'm going to ask
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: real simple question. You can answer this or just give
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: me whatever your general thoughts are on last night. Have your,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: have your, expectations change for this football team this year?
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Has your perception of this football team changed this year?
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, we went into the season, hard knocks, Super
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Bowl champs, got to go through Seattle, blah, blah, blah,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. Has that changed?
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we were like, oh, we're being overlooked by the Rams,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: but that's all right. We'll stay over here and just
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: do our own thing.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, right now that's own thing isn't looking too good.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, now we're tied with the Rams.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: So give me your thoughts. Have your expectations changed? Has
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: your perception of this team changed? 49451, but more importantly,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: let's hear your talkbacks. Red microphone, iHeartRadio up. We'll come back,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: we'll hear from Mike McDonnell, and then I'll give you
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: the path to the playoffs and how it exists for
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Seattle and what they must do next.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: I will say this, it felt like we were still
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: the champions until last night, regardless of the other games.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: Last night felt like we were officially dethroned.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Interesting. Great talkback. Really interesting, actually. That was the feeling
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: that guy got. How about you? We'll get more talkbacks.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Ashley's getting a bunch coming in. Go to the iHeartRadio app,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: red microphone, speak, 30 seconds or less. We're going to
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: hear your voice today throughout the afternoon. Normally we'll do
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: talkbacks at 2.30 p.m. But we're just going to go
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: ahead and keep firing those away as we come back
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: out of our commercial breaks. I want you guys to
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: take a listen. It's only a few minutes long. This
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: is Mike McDonald postgame. We'll react to the other side,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: and then I'll paint the picture on how they can
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: get to the postseason. Fire away.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: I think it's the tip of the cap to the Bears.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: They won the game. They won it fair and square.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: They won it in all three phases. and uh and
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: we just we got beat and um not no other
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: way to sugarcoat it i think when you look at
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: the things that it takes to win in our league
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: uh we didn't do those things and they did so
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: um Credit to them. Obviously, we have some work to do,
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: and that's what we intend to do, get back to
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: work and attack the heck out of it. We've got
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: a short week. This is the first of, I think,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: maybe four or five throughout the season. It's really important
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: that we get our bodies back and get our minds
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: ready to go on Wednesday. Again, credit to the Bears.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: Look at all the stats, the things that happened in
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: terms of playing complimentary football. We can rattle them off
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: if you want, but they made it happen and we didn't.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: It's a team effort. We lost as a team. I
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: think in all three phases we can have better plans,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: we can coach it better, we can prepare our players better,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: and we can play better. But we'll go back to work,
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: go attack the heck out of it. The margins in
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: our league is too small. When you don't do the
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: things that it takes to win, that's how a game
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: like that shapes up. What's your concern with the run.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Game right now?
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm not sure yet. I mean, we came off
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: the last week feeling good, and then obviously we have
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: some changeup on our offensive line, so I expect us
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: to get back and get better. But I don't have
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: a great answer for you right now. But just like
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: what I told the teams, I say, look, this is
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: what we do. We find solutions, and we move forward.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: We stay together and go make it happen from there. Well,
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: you know, without getting into the play counts and all that,
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, you can't ask guys to come back and
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: play a certain amount of snaps. So obviously the game
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: shook out a certain way, and that affected how we
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: played our guys. I think we want to keep encouraging
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Sam to use his legs and use his athleticism and
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: his playmaking ability. Can we design it better and coach
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: it up better and be more prepared so we can
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: throw it on time?
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: Sure.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: Again, it.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: If we keep forcing ourselves into, you know, if we're
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: not efficient on early downs and we're not moving the
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: ball forward all the time, it's tough sledding. And when
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: you play a team like that that is really proficient
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: on third down, then, you know, that's the type of
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: stuff that happens. But we have to, you know, the
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: sense of urgency for us to improve right now is high.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: This sequence where they delay a game penalty, it looked
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: like maybe you were going to get to stop there
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: and then on the next play that.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, there's some unfortunate series of
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: events that didn't go our way. But, I mean, you
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: got to play the game, you know. I mean, you
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: got to be able to tackle guys on the perimeter
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: and understand the situation and execute, you know. So they
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: did that and we didn't. So it's just, I mean,
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: it's pretty cut and dry.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: You guys are normally very good on special teams, but
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: there's a handful of gaps tonight. What did you do
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: about it?
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Again, it was a team effort. We lost in all
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: three phases, you know. We knew the timing of the
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: kickoffs would be different on our kick returns, and it
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: just didn't seem like we could get the return, you know,
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: timed up with the blocks, you know, and that's how
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: they make their A, and they're good at it. So,
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: you know, I expect us to improve.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Jackson obviously had his numbers out there, but where's your
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: concern level with the fact that you had two receiving
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: cards from anybody not named Jackson in the first half,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: and it just.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Seemed like you guys had a hard time getting anybody
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: else involved until late?
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: We didn't do the things on offense that we need
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: to be able to do to play Seahawk football. So
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: to me, we got similar questions throughout the beginning of
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: the season on where we're falling short, but to me
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: it's inputs. If we're playing the way that we're supposed
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: to and we're running off the rock and we're targeted
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: right and we're dialed in on what we should be doing,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: we're way more efficient and the ball is distributed more evenly.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: So that's where we need to put our focus. in
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: a short week here? What's the key from your standpoint?
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: How do you.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Get back around? We have a plan. We haven't had
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: a six-day week yet this year. We had one last year.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: We'll go try to execute it to the best of
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: our ability. Similar to going into a Thursday night game,
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: you don't have a lot of time. This isn't the
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: time for studying. It's just, hey, let's attack the tape.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Let's make sure we're all on the same page on
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: one accord when we show up on Wednesday, and let's go.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: We don't have time to be licking our wounds or
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: anything like that. It's time to move forward. Mike, how
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: did the two running backs come out?
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Do you have an update on Leo?
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: To my knowledge, the running backs came out of the
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: game okay, so we'll see where that goes. Leo had
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: a stinger, and we'll see how that shakes out. Connor
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: O'Toole has a foot.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Could you get a sense of how Quentin Nelson played?
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: No. No.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: What did you say about Conor O'Toole?
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: He should have two feet if he's... I mean, that
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: would make him probably more successful on the football field.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: You would hope so. Yeah. Stinger for Leonard Williams didn't
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: help matters for sure.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: No.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: The running backs, the two top running backs, by the way,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: in terms of Jadar Price and Zach Charbonnet, they played
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: a combined 85% of the snaps on offense. So they
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: got their snaps in. They just didn't get a lot
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: of carries.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: So I don't know if they're decoys or what the
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: deal was. That question that Corbin asked about the wide
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: receiver two position, you know, who the number two guy is.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I'm not getting a lot out of that. We'll play
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: that for you coming up at one o'clock on the show.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: So stand by for that. That's 1 p.m. today. Hardcore
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Football with Hugh Millen. The thing that jumped out at me,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: that's why I wanted to play it. You know, I
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: listened to McDonald last night. I wanted to hear it again.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: A fresh day to take a listen. Because last night
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I thought, God, he sounds like he's at a loss. Like,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: not at a loss, after a loss. No, at a loss.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's the case. I think he's like, okay,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: we got our ass kicked.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: I think he just realized we have a lot more
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: to work.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: On than I thought we did last week. We have
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: a lot of work to do.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: We were teased a little bit by Kansas City, and
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: now we've got to figure out how we can go
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: back in the room tomorrow and get this thing figured out.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: I love the attitude. And this is one of the
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: things about the NFL that is, I think sometimes it
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: drives fans crazy, maybe even media. is that they're able
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: to flush stuff pretty damn quick. It's almost, in a sense,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: good that it's a six-day week, which he mentioned a
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: couple times, because that takes away the Monday, you know,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Pete used to call it to tell the truth Monday,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: whatever the hell he called it, right? They go in
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: there and look at the tape, and after a loss,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: you're like, okay, this is what happened, and regurgitate. No,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: game prep starts tomorrow. And he said, we're not looking back,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: we're looking ahead. So I like that a lot, and
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: that starts tomorrow. Full bore, here we go, straight ahead,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: get this thing going. And he's right. All three phases
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: were awful. Special teams, not good. Not good at all. Defense,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: not good enough, and especially in the red zone where
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Chicago was 4-4-4. And offensively, nothing needs to be said.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: You guys all watched the game. Nothing needs to be
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: said about the offense.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I did watch the game, yeah.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Nothing needs to be said there. We can just move
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: on from the offense. Thanks for coming. Thank you very much.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: They've got to figure some stuff out.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: A lot. A lot.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: All right, so here's what we'll do. We'll come back.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I'm going to paint the picture, kind of give you
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: a feel for what needs to happen and kind of
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: more anything based on historical, you know, kind of what's
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: happened the last few years. This is the sixth year
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: of a 17-game schedule. So what needs to happen, four
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: and four, right? What needs to happen down the stretch
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: for this team to get into the postseason? All right,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: we'll go through that coming up next. the management, everything else.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of worse teams out there.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: And just stick with the Seahawks. Just stay with them, man.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: See ya. I think people are sticking with them. I
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: think there's a lot of frustration today. Oh, that's what
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: happens when you lose.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: And that's fair. And there were some people saying, you know,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: just one game. It's not one game, as you pointed out.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: It was issues that have been, we've seen this season
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: that were highlighted last night.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you look through the season... The Arizona
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: game on the 20th of September, they won 31-7. It
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: was 7-7 at the half, remember. And then obviously Kansas
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: City when they beat the Chiefs 20-3 last week. Every
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: other game has been close, win or loss, including a
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: game against the Chargers who are awful, and you let
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: them get back in the game. And they won 30-23.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: They haven't really played outside of probably, I would say,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Kansas City, a great game start to finish. That's the ones.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: like and i say nine don't have to be great
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: just a complete game start to finish so those are
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: the concerns i will get more of your talk backs
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: as the day goes on ashley's uh grabbing those and
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: every commercial back break we'll bump back with one or
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: two here's the path to the playoffs and we speak
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: about this a lot of times on this show that
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: right-hand column, the last column is really what matters. I
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: say right-hand. I mean, obviously the ties are out there
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: and we've already had a tie this season in the
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: NFL with the giants and the commanders. But if you
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: just want to look at that right-hand column, that last column, well,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: the NFL went to a 17 game schedule in 2021.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: When they went to that 17-game schedule in 2021, I
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: went back and I wanted to see what the... Because
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: my perception was, and it ended up being different, my
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: perception was, you better be in the 10-11 range to
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: get to the postseason as a wild card. And again,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: as of now, prove me wrong, root to be wrong,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: all those things. This team's not winning the division. It just...
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: The math doesn't do them very well in that regard.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: It just really... You need a big, big, big-time collapse
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: by San Francisco. All right? So let's assume you're looking
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: at the wild card and the bare minimum to get in.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Because at this point, this is just about getting in.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: This isn't about– this is about getting in.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that should be the goal.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: You need to get in to defend your championship. You
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: can't defend your– like, your championship isn't defended if after
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Week 18 and the 17th game of the year, you're done.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: You go to the Rams, that final game. If you
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: aren't in after that, you're done. And you're like, well,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: that was cool. We won one, which is great. But
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: that's not the goal. You win one, you want to
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: go back to back. So my assumption was it was
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: going to take 10 plus. These are the records since
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: 2021 of the last wildcard team. Nine and eight, nine
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: and eight, nine and eight, 11 and six, and nine, seven,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: and one. A couple of those 9-8s were a tiebreaker,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: even the 11-6. If you remember, that was a Seahawks year.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: The Seahawks, that particular season, that was Mike McDonald's first season,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: and they finished 10-7. They finished one game behind Green
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Bay for that final wildcard spot. 12-5 was also a
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  Speaker 1: wildcard that year. The wildcards that year, which is just
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  Speaker 1: kind of crazy to think about, the wildcards that year
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  Speaker 1: in 2024 were 14-3, 12-5, 11-6. Now, last year, 2025,
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  Speaker 1: the wild cards were 12-5, 12-5, 9-7, and 1. I
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  Speaker 1: think to be safe, you almost have to look like,
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  Speaker 1: you have to think 11 wins. All right? Yeah. You've
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: got to think 11 wins. Now, the good news is
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  Speaker 1: there will be some attrition naturally inside the NFC North.
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  Speaker 1: Just some natural attrition will take place. All these teams
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  Speaker 1: are already sitting with at least five wins. Minnesota 6-1,
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  Speaker 1: Chicago 6-2, Detroit 5-2, Green Bay 5-3. But they will
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  Speaker 1: still play each other, whatever combinations those are. So there
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  Speaker 1: will be some attrition. To get in, the path to
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  Speaker 1: get in, to me, is really simple. You have, and
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  Speaker 1: sitting at 4-4, eight games in, you've got nine games
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  Speaker 1: left to go. You have the following six games, Arizona, Vegas, Dallas,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: The Giants, Philadelphia, and Carolina. Those six games.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I think you have to go 6-0 in those games.
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  Speaker 1: If you do, and you go 6-0, you're sitting at 10-4. Now,
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  Speaker 1: these aren't all in chronological order, but dance with me
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  Speaker 1: for a second. You're sitting there with 10 wins if
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  Speaker 1: you go with those six wins. Then you have three
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  Speaker 1: more games against the Niners and the Rams. Two against
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  Speaker 1: the Rams, one against the 49ers.
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  Speaker 3: In theory.
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  Speaker 1: You would only need to win one of those three
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  Speaker 1: to get in. 11-6, you're going to be in. 11-6,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to be in. More than likely. It would
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  Speaker 1: take something crazy not to be in. But you're going
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  Speaker 1: to be in as probably wildcard, at best wildcard two,
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  Speaker 1: maybe wildcard three. But that's what it would take. You
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  Speaker 1: slip up in any of those other games, Arizona-Vegas, Dallas-Giants, Philadelphia-Carolina,
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  Speaker 1: and you should be favored in all six of those,
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  Speaker 1: barring something unforeseen. If you get those six, one and
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  Speaker 1: two against the 49ers, one game and the two against
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  Speaker 1: the Rams, you get to 11 wins, you should be okay.
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  Speaker 1: You slip up against one of those teams, all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden that reverses. You're going to have to win
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  Speaker 1: two of the three against the Rams and the 49ers. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I know they don't think those ways. They're not thinking, hey,
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  Speaker 1: all I have to do is win one or two.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: But let's look at it from our standpoint. We're fans, right?
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  Speaker 1: You're looking at what's realistic. And that's what's probably realistic.
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  Speaker 1: Gives you a little bit of margin of error against
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  Speaker 1: the Rams and the 49ers. You still have to find one.
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  Speaker 1: You can't get swept. You get swept, now you're looking
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  Speaker 1: at 10 wins, and now you're, ooh. Now you're just
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  Speaker 1: hoping for help from other people. If you go into
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: that final game against the Rams and you're sitting at
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  Speaker 1: 10 and 6 at that point, right? 16 games, you're
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: sitting at 10 and 6. You may have to win
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  Speaker 1: that one.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You don't really want to. I mean, you do, but that's...
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  Speaker 1: You don't want to have to. Because they're probably playing
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  Speaker 1: for the similar thing or the same or what have you, right?
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: That might be like loser out game, depending on what
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  Speaker 1: happens with the NFC North. But take care of business.
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  Speaker 1: And the upcoming part of the schedule, Arizona Sunday, should
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: take care of business. At Vegas, should be able to
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  Speaker 1: take care of business. Get those two. Get a bye
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: week before you go to San Francisco on Thanksgiving weekend. Dallas,
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  Speaker 1: the following Monday night football game, they're a disaster. Right?
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  Speaker 1: Philadelphia doesn't have a quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, correct.
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  Speaker 1: And they're kind of a disaster anyway.
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  Speaker 2: There's that too.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know. And then you get the Rams
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  Speaker 1: at home on Christmas Day. You go to Carolina the
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  Speaker 1: following Sunday. And then the Rams in L.A. to wrap
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  Speaker 1: up the season.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The path isn't as daunting as I thought it was
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  Speaker 1: last night when I went to bed. I was like, damn.
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  Speaker 4: That's a relief, at least, because I would have thought
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: it would have been doomsday after watching that game.
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  Speaker 1: And again, I'm just saying to be safe.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Only one of the five years that you have had
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  Speaker 1: the 17-game schedule has a wild card had to win
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  Speaker 1: double-digit games to get in. And that particular year, you
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: had to win 11. Seattle won 10 and didn't get in.
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  Speaker 1: They were eliminated, remember, that day of the game or
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: what have you. So that's... But I don't... If you're
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: sitting around at nine wins this season, nine and eight
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  Speaker 1: ain't getting you in because I just went through it.
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  Speaker 1: Green Bay, Detroit, Chicago all have five or six wins already.
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  Speaker 1: That number is more than likely going to be 11
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  Speaker 1: this year for wildcard teams. You could have two or
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  Speaker 1: three wildcard teams with 11 wins. Is it doable?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Very doable.
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  Speaker 4: It is doable. Yeah, yeah, it is.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: It's very doable.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and the fact that you're setting up like this
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: is kind of the bare minimum of what we need
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  Speaker 4: to get in.
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  Speaker 1: That's the bare minimum.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, my hope is not lost. That's for sure. That's
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: the basement right there. Okay. That's where the floor is.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Hey, they could get on a run and rattle them
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  Speaker 1: all off. Who knows?
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  Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be nice?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what this team is. I think that's
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: the other part of it.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's the frustrating part of it is that, yeah, we're.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Eight games in. Are they last week Kansas City or
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: are they last night Chicago?
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Haven't seen the same thing week to week yet.
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  Speaker 1: Not even close.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I just kind of go back to that
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  Speaker 1: Chargers game. Like, what were you doing? What the hell
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: were you doing in that game?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, trying to give it away.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Just screwing around that entire day. You know, the San
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Francisco game, you should have probably won. Like, that should
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: have been a win. You know, Denver game, 100% you
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: should have won. That's the problem in the NFL. When
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: you kick a game that you should win, almost always
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: it comes back to haunt you. It just does. But
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: last night, there just was something off. Well, guess what?
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: We have Hugh Millen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going to figure it out.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: He can figure it all out for us. We'll have
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: him lay it out for us. Obviously, we'll get into
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: the offense. I'm very curious. Quarterback, offensive coordinator, what his
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: thoughts are there. Red zone offense, red zone defense. And
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: more than anything, I think, Ashley, we're going to get into,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: I have to get into this with him, the second receiver.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: We talked about it a little bit yesterday with him
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: in the preview part. They've got to find some help
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: for JSN. And when I say help, I don't know
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: if that's on, is that on Torrey Horton and Cooper Cup?
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Or is that on the quarterback and the play calling? Well,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but I know Hugh does. And he'll
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: join us coming up next.