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Space Turkeys? A Big Helping of Tryptophan on an Astreoid · Made of Stars

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Speaker 2: Stars? When we are made of stars?
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Speaker 4: I'm Wes Carol, joined by my good friend doctor Sean
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Speaker 4: Cruisin from Columbus State Universities, Coca Cola Space Signed Center.
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Speaker 2: Hey Sean, good morning.
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Speaker 3: We's good to be here.
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Speaker 4: We got some fun stories today. I mean, maybe not
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Speaker 4: so fun if you're you know, part of the Russian
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Speaker 4: space program, but it's still it's fun stories because well,
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Speaker 4: the fun story I think is really the ones that
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Speaker 4: come about a cyrus rex.
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Speaker 2: A little bit later on.
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Speaker 4: We're going to start with Russia and then work our
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Speaker 4: way to that. Those are the more fun ones. I
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Speaker 4: guess these are a little tricky, the Russian stories. But
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Speaker 4: first and foremost we'll begin And I also like the
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Speaker 4: fact that we have some Thanksgiving tie in stories, which
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Speaker 4: is kind of nice one. Well, we'll get to that
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Speaker 4: in a second. It's just kind of a cool fact
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Speaker 4: that the stories came out when they did. I was
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Speaker 4: wondering if they were holding on to that trip to
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Speaker 4: Fans story for Thanksgiving specifically, But we'll get to that
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Speaker 4: in a second. Let's start first and foremost with the
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Speaker 4: Russian Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan. I miss being able to play
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Speaker 4: that jingle on radio, just miss it whenever we mention it.
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Speaker 4: But for copyright reasons, we're not playing that game. But
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Speaker 4: so there's some damage there. So is this one of
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Speaker 4: those deals where they went, Hey, the Americans over there
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Speaker 4: at SpaceX blew up a launch pad. We're going to
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Speaker 4: blow up a launch pad and see what we can
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Speaker 4: do anything similar to that?
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Speaker 2: Or is this just a big old whoops or both one.
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Speaker 3: One could never know the mind of the Russian Space Agency.
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Speaker 3: Let me just let me just start there. Yeah, roast
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Speaker 3: Cosmos does things their own way, and yeah, if they
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Speaker 3: decided they wanted to one up SpaceX and just totally
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Speaker 3: destroying their launch pad, they've done a good job of it. Apparently.
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Speaker 3: Let us remember this that in the United States of America.
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Speaker 3: We have several launch pads. Like even at just a
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Speaker 3: Kennedy Space Center, there are several. There's not just one
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Speaker 3: launch pad, there's multiple launch pads. And then you cross
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Speaker 3: the road, literally cross the street and you're at the
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Speaker 3: you know, the Space Force base there on the Cape
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Speaker 3: as well, and that's the Canaveral Space Force Station. They
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Speaker 3: have several launch pads. So that's just right there in Titusville, Florida.
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Speaker 3: Not to mention you know Boka Chika, Texas, and places
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Speaker 3: like Vanderberg Air Force Base it's a Space Force base
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Speaker 3: two now and other places where where there are launch
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Speaker 3: pads in the United States. Well for the Russian Space
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Speaker 3: Agency at least to launch people, they have one. There's
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Speaker 3: one launch pad and it's at the bikeen Ore. Yes
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Speaker 3: here various jingleing music going on in the background. Kazakhstan
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Speaker 3: in a place called the Cosmodrome, which is just an
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Speaker 3: excellent name, by the way, whoever cited that name, that's
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Speaker 3: an A plus right there. So the Cosmodrome and Biking
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Speaker 3: or Kazakhstan has one launchpad capable of launching human rated rockets.
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Speaker 3: And on Thanksgiving Day, as I'm enjoying my Turkey. You know,
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Speaker 3: the phone starts blowing up a little bit. And now
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying I have super deep insider contacts at NASA,
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Speaker 3: but my phone started blowing up as well as the
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Speaker 3: people I was having Thanksgiving with their phone started blowing
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Speaker 3: up too. And it turns out that something happened on
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Speaker 3: Thanksgiving Day here in America. Except the thing that happened
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Speaker 3: was not in America. It was at the Russian Cosmodrome
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Speaker 3: in Bike, North Kazakhstan, because they launched a Soyuz mission,
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Speaker 3: which is fairly routine, with a couple of different cosmonauts,
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Speaker 3: both named Sergei the and other brother Darryl and my
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Speaker 3: other brother named Chris Williams who's a NASA astronaut. So
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Speaker 3: Saragai Could's circumvolv and Sergei Mackayov and Chris Williams from
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Speaker 3: NASA and the United States all launched on a soy
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Speaker 3: Use to the International Space Station. But that rocket that
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Speaker 3: was launching the soy Use space capsule apparently did substantial
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Speaker 3: damage to the launch pad itself at Russia's only launchpad
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Speaker 3: capable of launching human rated rockets, so it kind of
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Speaker 3: trickled out like, oh well, there's been a little bit
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Speaker 3: of damage to the launch pad, and you know, we
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Speaker 3: at roast Cosmos, you know, Moscow's news agencies are reporting
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Speaker 3: that there's been some damage, but you know it's all
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Speaker 3: the parts are actually there. So this is actually a
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Speaker 3: quote from ross Cosmos. Damage to a number of elements
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Speaker 3: of the launchpad was identified, all the necessary spare parts
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Speaker 3: for repair are available, and the damage will be eliminated
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Speaker 3: in the very near future. I think I stuck in
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Speaker 3: the word very in the near future. Okay, But then
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Speaker 3: there's another player in the story. Friends, It's a group
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Speaker 3: of people who are identified as Russian space bloggers. That's
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Speaker 3: right out there in the underground culture. Are people similar
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Speaker 3: to all these kind of YouTube sites that are watching
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Speaker 3: space ex as every move. Well, that same thing is
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Speaker 3: happening in Russia apparently, so the Russian space blogger population
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Speaker 3: sort of started exploding and saying, hey, wait a minute,
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Speaker 3: this damage is far more substantial than the ros Cosmos
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Speaker 3: reports are alluding to. So, according to Russian space bloggers,
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Speaker 3: roast Cosmos will be unable to conduct space launches for
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Speaker 3: some time due to the accident, Alleging that the site
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Speaker 3: in Kazakhstan was seriously damaged. Now some of the details
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Speaker 3: I heard kind of behind the scenes. There's kind of
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Speaker 3: an underground structure beneath the launch pad itself. It's for
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Speaker 3: accessing the flame trench and accessing some of the mechanics
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Speaker 3: they have to be in place at that Apparently that
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Speaker 3: whole underground sort of I don't know what to call it,
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Speaker 3: a a staging area collapsed and left the whole entire
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Speaker 3: launch pad unsupported and therefore that is very significant damage.
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Speaker 3: Now it seems to be that some of the Russian
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Speaker 3: bloggers have come out and confirmed that the reporting I'm
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Speaker 3: sharing with you as any kind of official reporting is
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Speaker 3: coming from Space Daily dot com.
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Speaker 2: But there are a lot of outlets.
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Speaker 3: That are space news outlets that are covering the same story,
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Speaker 3: so you know, check them all out if you want
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Speaker 3: more details. But it looks as though there is only
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Speaker 3: one ride back and forth to the International Space Station
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Speaker 3: right now, and it's got a picture of a dragon
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Speaker 3: on the outside of it. Because Boeing, as we reported
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Speaker 3: last week, their Starliner has been got downgraded to a
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Speaker 3: cargo vehicle for the time being, and the soy used vehicles,
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Speaker 3: which were the other trip to space for human beings
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Speaker 3: now in definitely off line because the launch but the
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Speaker 3: single launch pad that can launch them to space is
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Speaker 3: so heavily damaged that they're offline for a while. It
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Speaker 3: looks like SpaceX Dragon, the world's only transportation system capable
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Speaker 3: of getting human beings too. Well, it's a low worth
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Speaker 3: orbit in general. I wouldn't say that's the Chinese. I
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Speaker 3: forgot about it. You can't forget about the Chinese. But anyway, so,
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Speaker 3: but the Chinese have their own problems right now because
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Speaker 3: even their people are kind of stuck on board their
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Speaker 3: own space station while they're investigating a space debris impact
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Speaker 3: with one of their vehicles. Anyway, SpaceX Dragon, you're only
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Speaker 3: taxi to space right now.
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Speaker 4: It's an interesting turn because obviously, for so long in
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Speaker 4: the US we were in a position where we weren't
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Speaker 4: launching from the US and we were sending all of
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Speaker 4: our astronauts up from Kazakhstans. So part of the reason
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Speaker 4: that we use that music so much on radio for
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Speaker 4: so many years because it was, you know, the only
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Speaker 4: way to get people to and from So now it's
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Speaker 4: sort of flipped back the other way. And yeah, and
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Speaker 4: the Chinese thing is weird because I mean, we had
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Speaker 4: so much issues with stuck astronaut conversation and our media
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Speaker 4: when they had a vehicle attached to come home in.
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Speaker 4: They don't even have away home at the moment from
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Speaker 4: the Chinese space station, right, They're just they're just there.
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Speaker 4: There's no ride home.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they do have a ride home, but that's what's damaged. Right.
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Speaker 3: So the so the micro the piece of micro space
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Speaker 3: debris has cracked a window in their only right home,
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Speaker 3: and they the Chinese engineers have decided that that's it's
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Speaker 3: too much damage to risk bringing them back on that vehicle.
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Speaker 3: So they're working to send up an autonomous vehicle to
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Speaker 3: dock with the space station to be able to get
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Speaker 3: their Chinese taik knots back home for the Teongong Space Station.
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Speaker 4: I mean, you can say they have a ride home,
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Speaker 4: but if it doesn't have a windshield, they don't have
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Speaker 4: a ride home. I mean, this is not like trying
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Speaker 4: to drive a car home with a crack in the windshield.
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Speaker 4: They basically are trying to drive home in a car
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Speaker 4: that doesn't have an engine.
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Speaker 3: You can send a spaceman to space in a spacesuit
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Speaker 3: in a convertible cherry red roadster as long as there's
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Speaker 3: no actual man on the inside of the suit. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: or as my broadcast partner once claimed, as long as
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Speaker 3: the person inside the suit is no longer living. One
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Speaker 3: of those two things. So if I wonder how that was.
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Speaker 3: If that's true, you could go ahead and use the convertible.
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Speaker 3: You don't need to seal it in. But if living,
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Speaker 3: breathing people are on board, you kind of need that
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Speaker 3: thing to be sealed up so that air stays on
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Speaker 3: the inside.
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Speaker 4: See, that's the lot of a lot of duct tape
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Speaker 4: needed to patch that thing up. Well that we have
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Speaker 4: another story that involves the Russians though, and this is
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Speaker 4: one of those stories that when I saw it, I
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Speaker 4: immediately sent you a text and was like, uh oh.
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Speaker 4: And this is interesting because it does also relate to SpaceX.
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Speaker 4: But one of the Russian cosmonauts who he was supposed
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Speaker 4: to go up with the SpaceX crew twelve not gonna
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Speaker 4: happen now.
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Speaker 3: So let us just refer quickly back to the Space
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Speaker 3: Daily article about the latest launch pad damage. And by
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Speaker 3: the way, it's important to note that Chris Williams and
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Speaker 3: the two sergates did arrive at the International Space Station
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Speaker 3: safely on Thursday, right, So their vehicle was not damaged.
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Speaker 3: It was the launch pad that was damaged. So they're
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Speaker 3: up there on iss, they're safe, they're good. They can
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Speaker 3: come home in that same soy use. It's just getting
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Speaker 3: anybody else up there right on the next soy use
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Speaker 3: might be a problem.
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Speaker 4: And I meant to ask you this, do we just
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Speaker 4: assume that maybe they cranked up the thrust to eleven,
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Speaker 4: Like maybe that's what they did. It was like they
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Speaker 4: didn't stop at ten, they went up to eleven.
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Speaker 3: You know, that would be sort of a human error thing,
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Speaker 3: and I guess it's ultimately it's all human error, But
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Speaker 3: it sounds to me like just good old construction fatigue,
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Speaker 3: Like yeah, you like, the components have just aged over time.
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Speaker 4: Somebody was storing a box of fireworks down there under
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Speaker 4: their launch I don't know.
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Speaker 3: That that's not true, but I don't suspect that that's
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Speaker 3: the case, because that wouldn't be the best place.
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Speaker 4: Put on a heck of a show for people that
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Speaker 4: were there watching.
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Speaker 2: Is it's supposed to do that.
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Speaker 3: It was probably a show that was a bit like
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Speaker 3: Fourth of July anyway, So I want to just refer
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Speaker 3: back to Space Daily because they had an interesting sentence
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Speaker 3: that I just want to share from their story about
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Speaker 3: the launch pad damage. It says this, remember that Russia's
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Speaker 3: space program, which for decades has been a source of
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Speaker 3: national pride, has been suffering from years of chronic lack
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Speaker 3: of funding and corruption scandals. Okay, so segue sentence, right,
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Speaker 3: just a reminder from Space Daily of the current state
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Speaker 3: of the Russian space program in an era where many
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Speaker 3: sanctions have been placed on Russia in general, and many
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Speaker 3: international partners for roast Cosmos have pulled out of their
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Speaker 3: agreements because they don't want to deal with the Russians
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Speaker 3: because of what's going on in the Ukraine. Okay, so
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Speaker 3: let's just put all that into context, and now let's
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Speaker 3: add to it this next story that Wes did send
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Speaker 3: to me, but I found a follow up story on
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Speaker 3: the New York Post dot com which is just saying
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Speaker 3: simply this, a cosmonaut has been yanked from a SpaceX mission.
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Speaker 3: Now this is like, you know, you know, like one
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Speaker 3: of the leadoff hitters in the World Series gets yanked
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Speaker 3: out of the lineup right before Game three. It's like, what,
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Speaker 3: because you see there's only about two and a half
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Speaker 3: months between now and the time that Crew twelve was
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Speaker 3: scheduled to go up, and Oleg Ardemayev, fifty four year
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Speaker 3: old cosmonaut, was a member of the Crew twelve team.
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Speaker 3: He was going to be on Crew twelve. They've been
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Speaker 3: training for years for that mission, and just two and
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Speaker 3: a half months before the flight he gets yagked, well,
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Speaker 3: they don't do that for no reason. So as as
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Speaker 3: investigative reporting will do, they began to look into it
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Speaker 3: and said, why was cosmonaut Artemaiev yanked from this mission? Well,
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Speaker 3: ros Cosmos simply said, well, he's been assigned to other duties. Well, okay,
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Speaker 3: that's that's I mean, yes, that's probably true. And you
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Speaker 3: know when the Russians define other duties, you don't know
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Speaker 3: what that really means. But okay, Oleg Artemaiyev has now
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Speaker 3: been assigned to other duties. But what NASA and SpaceX
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Speaker 3: are reporting is that apparently Oleg Artemayev was quote photographed
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Speaker 3: SpaceX documentation then used his phone to export the classified
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Speaker 3: information unquote that comes from a rush An outlet called
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Speaker 3: The Insider, and further reporting says that the photographs were
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Speaker 3: from Hawthorne, California, we're so classified that posting those photographs
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Speaker 3: violated the E TAR Agreement. If you don't know what
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Speaker 3: ITAR is, it's the International Traffic in Arms Regulations. So,
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Speaker 3: in other words, the same kind of parts of a
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Speaker 3: rocket that can make astronauts go to the space station
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Speaker 3: can also make nuclear warheads go to another country. If
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Speaker 3: you're violating EYE TAR, that means you're sharing information that's
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Speaker 3: so private that you can't share it due to these
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Speaker 3: international agreements. Because it can help people make delivery vehicles
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Speaker 3: that are capable of carrying show we call them heavy weapons.
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Speaker 3: So oleg Ardemayev is being accused of photographing and then
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Speaker 3: using a cell phone to post classified information that was
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Speaker 3: protected by I TAR. Well, that's not an accident. That
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Speaker 3: wasn't a selfie gone wrong. That was an deliberate act
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Speaker 3: of espionage. Whether it's corporate espionage or governmental espionage still
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Speaker 3: to be decided, apparently, But the ITAR Agreement is a
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Speaker 3: US law that seeks to safeguard national security by restricting
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Speaker 3: the dissemination of sensitive information and technology. So quoted from
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Speaker 3: the New York Post. By the way, here at Space
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Speaker 3: Science Center, we actually have components that are under it
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Speaker 3: TAR agreements. We were told when we receive some NaSTA artifacts, hey,
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Speaker 3: you can put this on display, but you cannot open
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Speaker 3: up the casing and show anybody the interior parts because
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Speaker 3: that would be a violation of eye tar and you
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Speaker 3: would have a nice new apartment in Levenworth if you
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Speaker 3: were to share these pieces of information. So don't do that,
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Speaker 3: to which I said, Okay, I won't do that. That
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Speaker 3: sounds like a bad idea.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not good, not good at all. When you
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Speaker 4: say he didn't accidentally take a selfie, are we sure
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Speaker 4: that he wasn't just taking a selfie in front of
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Speaker 4: all of Lex Luthor's plans, Like, are we certain that
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Speaker 4: that wasn't I don't know if I should have called
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Speaker 4: spoiler alert or whatever, But uh, I.
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Speaker 3: Don't know what part of Elon's musky his office that
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Speaker 3: he photographed, right, Yeah, was Elon in the picture? I'm
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Speaker 3: not what I need to know.
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Speaker 4: I'm not calling Elon Musk Lex Luthor, by the way,
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Speaker 4: I'm just referencing a certain movie that came out kind
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Speaker 4: of in the earlier this year. That's all I'm referencing.
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Speaker 3: There is another space billionaire that looks a lot more
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Speaker 3: like Lex luthor in a selfie. Yeah than Elon Musk.
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Speaker 3: But I but I do get that, you know, I
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Speaker 3: understand the comparisons. Again, I don't know what other you know,
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Speaker 3: well noted SpaceX personnel were or were not in the picture,
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Speaker 3: and what the you know, the classified photos were posted
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Speaker 3: to Facebook or is there a Russian Facebook? Is there
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Speaker 3: a Russian equivalent of Facebook? I don't know. Yeah, what
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Speaker 3: do Russians use for social media? I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Uh, probably Facebook. There's just probably a lot of rules.
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Speaker 3: There's probably a lot of rules to go with it. Well,
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Speaker 3: whatever they were weren't quite tight enough to prevent the
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Speaker 3: posting of this particular photo. Because now Oleg Artemaia, no
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Speaker 3: longer part of Crew twelve, has a new assignment in
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Speaker 3: the you know, in some Datcha and Russia now apparently
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Speaker 3: so anyway, yeah, hey, by the way, side note, weird story,
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Speaker 3: not going to go into the details, but apparently back
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Speaker 3: in October, Oleg Artemaia ran over one of his co workers.
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Speaker 3: So go look that one up ran him over with
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Speaker 3: his car. Just the guy works at the same space
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Speaker 3: complex that Oleg works at in Star City and Russia,
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Speaker 3: and yeah, oh Leg just ran him over. So I
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Speaker 3: don't know. I don't know any more details in that.
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Speaker 3: I just know that happened. Look it up.
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Speaker 4: I don't know if this is true, but I heard
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Speaker 4: he was in a car with another guy and they
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Speaker 4: were chasing Rocky Balboa, like in the snow while he
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Speaker 4: was running, and they went Rocky turned in an embankment
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Speaker 4: and they swerved and the guy got hit and they
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Speaker 4: got stuck. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: That's my guess.
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Speaker 4: Sounds as reasonable as anything else.
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Speaker 3: I just Russian space engineers will just dart out in
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Speaker 3: front of a car like a deer.
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Speaker 2: So you got to watch.
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Speaker 3: Him, yes, apparently yes.
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Speaker 4: I mean, does it get any better than Rocky four?
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Speaker 4: I mean, the the time that Rocky Balboa ended the
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Speaker 4: Cold War? Does it get any better than that? Rocky
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Speaker 4: three he ended racism, Rocky four he ended the Cold War?
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Speaker 4: And then what was next for Rocky Rocky five? Which
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Speaker 4: was But anyway, that's another You got Rocky just solving
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Speaker 4: the world's problems.
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Speaker 3: We were the Creed movies, right, I mean, that's true.
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Speaker 3: You just keep keep I thought it was about that band,
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Speaker 3: but apparently know is about a boxer or something.
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Speaker 4: all right, this next story you talk about, you're Thanksgiving
22:01
Speaker 4: where you had, you know, your phone start blowing up
22:04
Speaker 4: and going, oh, there's a big news story. Something's happened
22:07
Speaker 4: in Russia at the or in Kazakhstan. For me, it
22:13
Speaker 4: was this next story that was what was true. It
22:16
Speaker 4: wasn't necessarily the phones blowing up, but almost immediately at
22:20
Speaker 4: the table, the word trip to fan came up, as
22:23
Speaker 4: it tends to come up around Thanksgiving. Of course, trip
22:26
Speaker 4: to fan the thing in Turkey that everybody says makes
22:29
Speaker 4: him sleepy. It has nothing to do with the fact
22:31
Speaker 4: that you eat entirely too much food and you start
22:34
Speaker 4: slipping into some kind of an insulin coma. It has
22:36
Speaker 4: nothing to do with that at all. It has everything
22:39
Speaker 4: to do with the tripped fan. But someone brought up
22:42
Speaker 4: the fact that, hey, they found trip to fan on
22:46
Speaker 4: something in space. I think I was told planet and
22:50
Speaker 4: when I looked it up and I was like, no,
22:51
Speaker 4: it's on Benuhu and this is an Osiris Rex story.
22:55
Speaker 4: But this is a really cool story, you know, one
22:57
Speaker 4: of the key components of life, one of those things,
23:00
Speaker 4: among other things, I guess. But the fact that trip
23:02
Speaker 4: to Fan, I was like, were they holding onto this
23:04
Speaker 4: story until Thanksgiving just so that they could, you know,
23:07
Speaker 4: throw that word out there for us?
23:09
Speaker 3: I mean probably, by the way.
23:11
Speaker 4: It's a good marketing move. Yeah, no, we do. It's
23:14
Speaker 4: a great marketing move. And I tell you what, it
23:17
Speaker 4: probably got more. I mean it it had someone bring
23:19
Speaker 4: it up to me at the table while we were eating.
23:23
Speaker 4: That would not have brought it up otherwise. So I
23:26
Speaker 4: thought that was interesting.
23:28
Speaker 3: Well, I would like to personally welcome that person to
23:30
Speaker 3: the Space News community. She broke some whatever it took
23:34
Speaker 3: if it took trip to Fan on Thanksgiving to get
23:36
Speaker 3: you to the table, so to speak of Space News followers, welcome,
23:40
Speaker 3: we'd like to welcome you.
23:41
Speaker 4: She broke the She I had seen the story that said,
23:45
Speaker 4: you know, building blocks of life, benu blah blah blah,
23:48
Speaker 4: and I saw that I didn't actually see the word
23:51
Speaker 4: trip to Fan. So I had to connect the dots
23:53
Speaker 4: and realize, oh, this is what she's talking about.
23:56
Speaker 2: So pretty cool stuff.
23:59
Speaker 3: As the fantastic spacecraft called Osyris Rex, which what makes
24:05
Speaker 3: that spacecraft fantastic? Well, first of all, it's name, that's
24:10
Speaker 3: just one of the It is an acronym, and I'm
24:12
Speaker 3: not gonna try to unwant unpack it, but it's maybe their.
24:15
Speaker 4: Best acronym though, that's the thing. They really terrible acronym,
24:20
Speaker 4: that's all. But the name itself is great because once
24:24
Speaker 4: you hear Osiris Rex and you know that's the name
24:27
Speaker 4: of a spacecraft, like it almost instantly becomes your favorite
24:31
Speaker 4: spacecraft because its name is Osiris Rex.
24:34
Speaker 3: And to know that Osiris Rex actually flew out to
24:37
Speaker 3: it a potentially hazardous asteroid, one that has got a
24:42
Speaker 3: non zero probability of running into the Earth someday, and
24:45
Speaker 3: it just went out there and just grabs samples off
24:48
Speaker 3: the face of that asteroid and brought them back home successfully.
24:54
Speaker 4: Unbelievable, landed on it like a mosquito, right just sat
24:59
Speaker 4: down on it, took out some material, and flew away
25:03
Speaker 4: like a mosquito with.
25:05
Speaker 3: A giant prebossis like structure that was basically a giant
25:10
Speaker 3: vacuum cleaner just sucked material right off the face of
25:13
Speaker 3: that asteroid, kind of like you might hit us but
25:15
Speaker 3: I'm hitting you first. Here take this now, you've got
25:18
Speaker 3: a mosquito bite on your face. And it brought that
25:21
Speaker 3: material back home, and that material landed back in twenty
25:26
Speaker 3: twenty which is unbelievable, and so I'm sorry. You know,
25:30
Speaker 3: the material is taken in twenty twenty a landed in
25:32
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three. We've been analyzing it since then. And
25:36
Speaker 3: one of the things that scientists have now found in
25:39
Speaker 3: that material off the face of a potentially hazardous asteroid
25:44
Speaker 3: called BENU, is the fact that there are at least
25:49
Speaker 3: fourteen different amino acids in that material, and these some
25:57
Speaker 3: of these are nucleo bases, five blogical nuclear basis. All
26:01
Speaker 3: of this stuff is necessary to make the genetic code
26:05
Speaker 3: for DNA and RNA. And now after further study, they
26:11
Speaker 3: have now found a fifteenth protein based building block amino
26:18
Speaker 3: acid called TRYP to fan And, as Wes said, a
26:25
Speaker 3: story that ran right around Thanksgiving because we were all
26:28
Speaker 3: consuming large amounts of trip to Fan in our Thanksgiving
26:31
Speaker 3: Day turkey. Now, whether trip to fan actually makes you
26:35
Speaker 3: sleepy or not, think West did a pretty good job
26:38
Speaker 3: summarizing that. There's some debate as to whether it's that
26:42
Speaker 3: or you just ate like literally seven pounds of food,
26:47
Speaker 3: and that new seven pounds is just causing so much
26:51
Speaker 3: blood to run into your digestive system that your brain
26:54
Speaker 3: can no longer function. So you just find a spot
26:56
Speaker 3: on the couch with the Dallas Cowboys on a screen
26:59
Speaker 3: and and the rest is just you know, biology. But
27:03
Speaker 3: regardless of any of that, trip to Fan. Now the
27:06
Speaker 3: fifteenth out of twenty, we only know about twenty of
27:10
Speaker 3: these protein building block amino acids in nature at all,
27:16
Speaker 3: and fifteen of them have been found in material from
27:20
Speaker 3: asteroid surfaces, which by the way, there was a Japanese
27:25
Speaker 3: mission called Reyugu that also did a sample return off
27:28
Speaker 3: a different asteroid and they had found some of these
27:31
Speaker 3: amino acids there as well. But this is the first
27:34
Speaker 3: time that triptafan has ever been found, which is interesting.
27:38
Speaker 3: So a quote from JOSEA. Ponte, an astrochemistist at NASA, quote,
27:43
Speaker 3: finding trip toafan in Benu the asteroid is a big
27:47
Speaker 3: deal because trip Toafan is one of the more complex
27:51
Speaker 3: amino acids and until now it had never been seen
27:55
Speaker 3: in any meteorite or space sample. Cantinuing the quote seeing
28:01
Speaker 3: it from seeing it form in natural space tells us
28:05
Speaker 3: that these ingredients were already being made out there in
28:09
Speaker 3: the early Solar System that would have made it easier
28:13
Speaker 3: for life to get started unquote. What Jose means is
28:19
Speaker 3: there is an idea that these amino acids formed on
28:22
Speaker 3: things like asteroids were deposited on planets, and then those
28:27
Speaker 3: life building blocks were available for life to get going
28:30
Speaker 3: on the surfaces of worlds. Well, that would mean there
28:33
Speaker 3: could be a whole lot of other worlds where life
28:36
Speaker 3: also had those life building blocks available through the process
28:42
Speaker 3: of asteroid impact. So should we be looking for life
28:45
Speaker 3: on Mars? Yes, because Mars may have had deposits of
28:51
Speaker 3: amino acids from collisions with asteroids as well as Earth
28:54
Speaker 3: did in its early history. So interesting, interesting line of evidence, right,
29:00
Speaker 3: a really cool idea. And the fact that we've actually
29:03
Speaker 3: now found fifteen of the twenty of those amino lessids
29:06
Speaker 3: that we know exist we found them on asteroids, not
29:09
Speaker 3: on Earth. Very interesting stuff and we'll continue to watch
29:13
Speaker 3: where this research goes.
29:15
Speaker 4: All Right, So we got another Osiris rex story here,
29:18
Speaker 4: a quick fly by, a quick pass by of Earth.
29:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, much like Prince you know, the recording artist or
29:25
Speaker 3: maybe other recording artists. Once you achieve a certain amount
29:28
Speaker 3: of notoriety, you just change your name. Just change your
29:31
Speaker 3: name to a symbol. You know, maybe you call yourself
29:34
Speaker 3: World be Free. You know, things like.
29:36
Speaker 4: That Meta World piece, some of those Metal World exactly
29:39
Speaker 4: Kareem Abdul Jabbar, I guess that was for different reasons.
29:42
Speaker 4: But there's other things, you know, Muhammad Ali.
29:44
Speaker 3: You know, is the name change. You get a certain
29:46
Speaker 3: level of notoriety, you just decide to change your name.
29:49
Speaker 3: So with the Osiris Rex spacecraft, which may have the
29:53
Speaker 3: coolest name in the history of naming spacecraft, it's no
29:56
Speaker 3: longer called that, friends, and it's not World be Free either.
30:02
Speaker 3: It is now Osiris Apex because Osiris Rex not cool
30:07
Speaker 3: enough anymore. It is now Osiris Apex.
30:10
Speaker 4: It does sound like predator, like Aronosaurus Rex. You know,
30:14
Speaker 4: see where this is going.
30:15
Speaker 2: It's cool, right, Well, that's what I was thinking.
30:17
Speaker 4: It does sound like we're we're naming the new big
30:19
Speaker 4: bad dinosaurs from each new Jurassic Park movie. That's what
30:23
Speaker 4: it sounds like. The Osiris Rex. Now it's the Osiris Apex.
30:30
Speaker 3: It does feel a lot like that, and you know,
30:33
Speaker 3: it has that ring to it and has that vibe
30:34
Speaker 3: to it, and okay, why not, why not make space
30:38
Speaker 3: cool again? Let's make space.
30:39
Speaker 4: You gotta make the dinosaurs a little more dangerous so
30:42
Speaker 4: that the next member of the Avengers fighting them has
30:44
Speaker 4: a harder challenge. That's what you gotta do.
30:47
Speaker 3: So Osiris Rex's first visit, much like the Avengers, was
30:52
Speaker 3: to a potential threat to the planet Earth, which is
30:55
Speaker 3: the asteroid Benu. And you know, having vanquished Benu by
30:59
Speaker 3: you know, taking a swath of material right off its
31:02
Speaker 3: face and bringing back home for analysis and finding trip defan.
31:06
Speaker 3: Now the Osiris, the once Osiris Rex spacecraft is onto
31:10
Speaker 3: the next big bad like movie villain, which is the
31:15
Speaker 3: asteroid Apothus, which the asteroid Apophus it's gonna make a
31:20
Speaker 3: near pass to Earth in the semi not too distant
31:25
Speaker 3: future that is potentially hazardous. So in other words, this
31:28
Speaker 3: is a more potentially hazard as asteroid than Benu, the one.
31:33
Speaker 3: Maybe we can do a different story on Apophus someday,
31:35
Speaker 3: but just know that it's that right, it's it's it's
31:39
Speaker 3: the next level of asteroid predator out there looking to
31:43
Speaker 3: cause trouble for the Earth. All right, So now our
31:47
Speaker 3: friend Osiris wants Rex. Now APEX is off on its mission.
31:53
Speaker 3: See it dropped its sample on the Earth. But the
31:55
Speaker 3: spacecraft just flew by Earth. In fact, it got a
31:58
Speaker 3: gravity fly by and it's heading out to visit the
32:03
Speaker 3: Opophous asteroid. It's going to make that close approach in
32:08
Speaker 3: twenty twenty nine. But during a recent flyby, the spacecraft
32:13
Speaker 3: just passed within about twenty one hundred and thirty six
32:15
Speaker 3: miles of the Earth. And while it did, it collected
32:20
Speaker 3: a whole rich set of images and measurements of the
32:24
Speaker 3: planet Earth. Why did they do this? Don't we have
32:28
Speaker 3: enough satellites pointing at Earth? Yes, well we have a lot.
32:30
Speaker 3: But you know, it's a selfie, it's another selfie. But
32:34
Speaker 3: what it does is it allows that Osiris spacecraft to
32:38
Speaker 3: recalibrate all of its science instruments and cameras to be
32:43
Speaker 3: ready for its Apofue flyby in twenty twenty nine. And
32:47
Speaker 3: so now the once Osiris REX spacecraft which is now
32:51
Speaker 3: Osiris APEX APEX, by the way, that stands for Apofus Explorer.
32:57
Speaker 3: So that's you know, that part of the name is
32:59
Speaker 3: not that much of a strained acronym to go from
33:01
Speaker 3: Rex to APEX, but again, these guys, whoever these folks are,
33:07
Speaker 3: Dante Loretta is the principal investigator, Dante Loretta, and the
33:10
Speaker 3: boy Dante Loretta is a pretty cool name, I would say,
33:12
Speaker 3: even for a scientist. Dante Loretta and his friends are
33:15
Speaker 3: really good at naming their spacecraft. All right, So once
33:18
Speaker 3: a PAFU is the asteroid, once it's out there, now
33:22
Speaker 3: O cyrus Apex will begin its studies of that asteroid
33:26
Speaker 3: and begin returning data on that potentially hazards asteroid back
33:30
Speaker 3: to Earth beginning just a few years from now.
33:33
Speaker 4: Whether or not there will be anything associated with Thanksgiving
33:36
Speaker 4: on that to be determined.
33:39
Speaker 3: Cranberry sauce, It's possible. If they find cranberry sauce on Apofice,
33:45
Speaker 3: I'm going to be remarkably surprised and duly impressed.
33:49
Speaker 4: What a breaking news story that would be at the
33:52
Speaker 4: I mean, they should definitely sit on that one until
33:54
Speaker 4: Thanksgiving if they did.
33:55
Speaker 3: If they find that one out in June, they need
33:56
Speaker 3: to hold onto that till November.
33:58
Speaker 4: I don't think needs to do anything at all with that,
34:03
Speaker 4: Just definitely save that story more.
34:05
Speaker 2: We're made of stars. Right after this, all right.
34:29
Speaker 4: Let's talk about the solar radiation as it pertains to airplanes.
34:35
Speaker 4: This is something that has obviously been a concern in
34:39
Speaker 4: some degree for a long time. But we have gone
34:43
Speaker 4: through a really remarkable period of solar maximum as this
34:48
Speaker 4: has been one of those, we've seen things we couldn't
34:51
Speaker 4: have even imagined. Aurora borealis and you know Puerto Rico, uh,
34:57
Speaker 4: you know, getting getting northern lights that f our south.
35:00
Speaker 2: That's not normal.
35:02
Speaker 4: And we talked a little bit a few weeks ago
35:04
Speaker 4: about how, you know, if there had been a maintained
35:07
Speaker 4: level of the amount of radiation coming in, how bad
35:11
Speaker 4: that could have been. Obviously we didn't get aywhere close
35:14
Speaker 4: to that. However, there have been incidents in the past
35:17
Speaker 4: where there have been you know, solar activity that has
35:20
Speaker 4: caused communications problems. You would think that this would be
35:24
Speaker 4: something we would already be fully prepared for. God forbid,
35:30
Speaker 4: something really horrible happens from the Sun and comes at us.
35:32
Speaker 4: But concerns for airplanes and obviously it's always going to
35:37
Speaker 4: be you know, we talk about the preparations and precautions
35:41
Speaker 4: that take place to launch three astronauts into space. You
35:45
Speaker 4: take a plane full of civilians, multiple planes at any
35:50
Speaker 4: given point in the sky. This could be a real
35:53
Speaker 4: disaster and a real terrible thing. So yeah, let's talk
35:57
Speaker 4: about that.
36:00
Speaker 3: So we know, we have regular listeners here on Native Stars,
36:04
Speaker 3: and I would just like to thank each and every
36:06
Speaker 3: one of you for being a regular listener. If you're
36:09
Speaker 3: new to the program, become a regular listener because you're
36:11
Speaker 3: gonna know things. You're going to know things that your
36:14
Speaker 3: friends don't know. And the regular listeners to this show,
36:19
Speaker 3: I feel just a little bit like Randy Quaid on
36:21
Speaker 3: Independence Day.
36:23
Speaker 4: I've been telling you for years, haven't I been telling you?
36:27
Speaker 3: You didn't listen to me?
36:29
Speaker 4: But no, okay, So now that I've got that up,
36:31
Speaker 4: I didn't know you were going to go with the
36:32
Speaker 4: other quote, you know, in the words of my generation
36:35
Speaker 4: up yours. I didn't know where you were going with
36:37
Speaker 4: the quote. But it's the other great quote from that.
36:40
Speaker 3: I'm saving that for a meeting later today.
36:42
Speaker 2: Fair enough, there's.
36:44
Speaker 3: A different meeting, fair enough anyway. So this happened on
36:48
Speaker 3: October thirtieth a Jet Blue flight Jet Blue flight number
36:52
Speaker 3: twelve thirty was flying from Cancun, Mexico, to Newark, New Jersey,
36:58
Speaker 3: when suddenly the plane just dove down in altitude for
37:03
Speaker 3: no apparent reason, and the pilots had to make an
37:07
Speaker 3: emergency landing in Tampa, Florida. The motion of the aircraft
37:12
Speaker 3: was so violent that fifteen people were removed from the
37:16
Speaker 3: plane and taken to the hospital. So this was not
37:19
Speaker 3: just a minor incident. This could have been one of
37:22
Speaker 3: those incidents that may have been fatal. Even good job
37:27
Speaker 3: on the pilots for keeping that from happening. So that
37:32
Speaker 3: happened to be an A three to twenty aircraft built
37:36
Speaker 3: by Airbus, and so Airbus immediately went into the investigation
37:41
Speaker 3: mode and they said, well, why did this happen? So
37:44
Speaker 3: Airbus recently released a statement consequently another Thanksgiving story right
37:49
Speaker 3: around the Thanksgiving holiday that said, this analysis of a
37:54
Speaker 3: recent event involving an A three to twenty family aircraft
37:58
Speaker 3: has revealed that in tense solar radiation may corrupt data
38:04
Speaker 3: critical to the functioning of flight controls. In other words,
38:11
Speaker 3: giant solar flares from the Sun throwing so many charge
38:15
Speaker 3: particles at the Earth that airplanes are falling out of
38:19
Speaker 3: the sky. Now, if that sounded like a science fiction movie,
38:23
Speaker 3: before you listen to this podcast, this is a story
38:26
Speaker 3: from cnn dot com friends, and in fact, during very
38:31
Speaker 3: critical parts of holiday travel, many Airbus aircraft were actually grounded.
38:40
Speaker 3: So airlines around the world racing to avoid widespread cancelation
38:46
Speaker 3: by fixing a software upgrade that Airbus aircraft have needed.
38:53
Speaker 3: They have to have immediate maintenance to protect them from
38:57
Speaker 3: being susceptible to influences by solar radiation, similar to the
39:03
Speaker 3: problem that injured passengers and caused an emergency landing last month.
39:09
Speaker 3: So if you were scheduled to fly on an Airbus
39:12
Speaker 3: aircraft during your Thanksgiving holiday, maybe you missed your flight,
39:17
Speaker 3: or maybe you had to be transferred to a different
39:20
Speaker 3: kind of airplane because Airbus grounded many of its vehicles
39:25
Speaker 3: until they could have a software passion. Now what happened
39:28
Speaker 3: was this, Interestingly, Airbus had just done a software upgrade,
39:34
Speaker 3: and it was the upgrade that made the aircraft vulnerable
39:40
Speaker 3: to space radiation. Now, Friends, I don't exactly know how
39:43
Speaker 3: all this happened. I don't know if there was some
39:44
Speaker 3: software redundancy that simply wasn't considered. I don't know the
39:49
Speaker 3: details of the mechanics of what was caused, but I
39:52
Speaker 3: do know that a vital software upgrade to the aircraft
39:57
Speaker 3: operation actually caused a vulnerability to solar radiation that grounded
40:03
Speaker 3: these Airbus aircraft until they could have the old version
40:07
Speaker 3: of the software put back on. They had to reinstall
40:10
Speaker 3: the old version, and this was, you know, sort of
40:14
Speaker 3: a reasonably quick repair, about two hours that the aircraft
40:19
Speaker 3: had to be down while they just kind of reloaded
40:21
Speaker 3: the old software. But that was on the newer Airbus planes.
40:24
Speaker 3: Apparently if there were older Airbus planes, it took longer
40:28
Speaker 3: than three hours, so all of the family of aircraft
40:32
Speaker 3: were out of commission for that for that period of time. Now,
40:35
Speaker 3: I will just tell you I was one of the
40:37
Speaker 3: human beings that was flying to a different part of
40:39
Speaker 3: the country at Thanksgiving, and I will also tell you
40:43
Speaker 3: that I flew a very well known airline whose name
40:47
Speaker 3: starts with D. And I will just tell you that
40:50
Speaker 3: my aircraft flying home was indeed an Airbus. So I
40:58
Speaker 3: had already heard this story. So I did just wonder
41:05
Speaker 3: and hope that they upgraded this necessary software because I'm
41:11
Speaker 3: also a space geek, and happened to know that right
41:14
Speaker 3: now as we speak, as we record this podcast, and
41:16
Speaker 3: we're not that far away from Thanksgiving, this was already
41:19
Speaker 3: out there. There's a Carrington event sized sun spot on
41:23
Speaker 3: the Sun today, and today's not its first day on
41:27
Speaker 3: the sun. It's been coming around for about the past week.
41:30
Speaker 3: So yeah, I flew home a little uneasy. I left
41:35
Speaker 3: my seat belt firmly strapped for the entire flight. I
41:39
Speaker 3: will just tell you.
41:40
Speaker 4: No and moving around, you stayed put.
41:44
Speaker 3: I did. I make sure I went to the restroom
41:46
Speaker 3: before we took off.
41:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good, good call. Talk about having a
41:52
Speaker 4: moment of like, you know, if God forbids something, the
41:57
Speaker 4: youth plane starts to drop out of the sky and
41:59
Speaker 4: you're out here, we.
41:59
Speaker 3: Go, oh yeah, stupid son.
42:04
Speaker 2: All this time, Well, you would just.
42:07
Speaker 4: Think, and I know that there's only so much that
42:09
Speaker 4: they can prepare for, but you would just think that
42:11
Speaker 4: they would have a lot of these things, these boxes
42:14
Speaker 4: already checked well.
42:16
Speaker 3: And you know, maybe they did on the old software,
42:18
Speaker 3: which is why they had to put it back on.
42:19
Speaker 3: It's like, oh wait, oh wait, we forgot I don't
42:23
Speaker 3: And again I don't. I don't know. So I don't
42:25
Speaker 3: want to speculate as to the you know, hardware software
42:29
Speaker 3: inter relationships that led to the vulnerability. I just know
42:31
Speaker 3: there were some, because that's what's reported in the news,
42:35
Speaker 3: including CNN dot Com and various other outlets as well.
42:38
Speaker 3: I think space dot Com had stories on this as well,
42:41
Speaker 3: So yeah, check it out No Before you Go, As
42:44
Speaker 3: they say, No Before you Go, that your aircraft is,
42:47
Speaker 3: you know, space hardened, because it needs to be, and
42:50
Speaker 3: Wes mentioned this at the beginning of the story. We
42:52
Speaker 3: think a lot about all the preparations we need to
42:55
Speaker 3: do for space vehicles to fly because they're going to
42:58
Speaker 3: be facing the harsh environment of space. And there's probably
43:01
Speaker 3: some engineers, I'll mean, there's certainly some engineers who think
43:04
Speaker 3: about that for aircraft as well. I think that the
43:06
Speaker 3: typical aircraft consumer, the typical just airline passenger, isn't really
43:13
Speaker 3: thinking through the fact that the aircraft they're about to
43:16
Speaker 3: get on has to be hardened to space radiation as
43:20
Speaker 3: one of the many protocols making it safe for them
43:24
Speaker 3: to fly to their destination. So an interesting story. Again,
43:29
Speaker 3: check it out CNN dot Com as well as space
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Speaker 3: dot Com and a variety of other space news outlets.
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Speaker 4: You're into the holiday season at Columbus State University's Coca
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Speaker 4: Cola Space Science Center with some adjustments to schedules and
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Speaker 4: things and shows yep.
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Speaker 3: So I will just say if you're interested in coming
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Speaker 3: to visit the Space Science Center, the closer we get
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Speaker 3: for Christmas, just make sure you check our schedule on
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Speaker 3: the website. All of our closure dates will be visible there.
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Speaker 3: But also know that we are showing a great show
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Speaker 3: called The Mystery of the Christmas Star. It's my favorite
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Speaker 3: holiday planetarium show that I've ever seen, and it is
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Speaker 3: running in our Omosphere Theater at this time. It is
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Speaker 3: whether you are a person of religious influence or not,
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Speaker 3: this is a great show because it's about archaeo astronomy.
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Speaker 3: It's about looking at ancient texts and trying to figure
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Speaker 3: out what may have been happening in the sky that
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Speaker 3: was recorded in a very old text of you know,
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Speaker 3: some kind of level of notoriety or reliability. Now I
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Speaker 3: happen to be a person of faith, so this adds
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Speaker 3: another layer for me when I watch the show. But
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Speaker 3: whether you're a person of faith or not, it's a
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Speaker 3: really interesting phenomenon to consider and consider all the facts
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Speaker 3: surrounding that historic event and what it was that was
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Speaker 3: reported in the pages of the Testaments of the Bible.
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Speaker 3: And so something that's kind of cool is that coming
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Speaker 3: out of COVID in twenty twenty, we kind of had
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Speaker 3: one of these events that was very similar to the
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Speaker 3: event that's portrayed in the show Mystery the Christmas Star.
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Speaker 3: And I just thought, Wow, isn't it interesting that here,
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Speaker 3: coming out of one of the darkest periods of my life,
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Speaker 3: that something is happening in the sky that may have
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Speaker 3: been very similar to what happened that drew Wiseman from
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Speaker 3: the east when they saw a star in the east
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Speaker 3: to travel west. That alone is kind of an interesting
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Speaker 3: paradox within the scriptures. Why do these people who were
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Speaker 3: from the east see an object in the east that
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Speaker 3: led them to travel west to find the birth of
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Speaker 3: a Messiah. It's really interesting. If you want to know
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Speaker 3: the rest of that riddle, come down and see Mystery
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Speaker 3: of the Christmas Star in the Omnosphere Theater at the
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Speaker 3: Coca Cola Space Science Center, Columbus State University sometime between
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Speaker 3: now and our Christmas holiday.
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