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- 0:00Speaker 1: Successful people are incredibly successful because they know how to
- 0:03deal with the things that they don't know just as
- 0:06well as the things that they do know. They all
- 0:08have this framework that has made them successful. For those
- 0:11that are new here, I'm Davey Fogarty. My Shopify stores
- 0:14have done over $ 400 million in sales. I wish I
- 0:17had this framework when I first started. Let's get into it.
- 0:20The first step, defining the decision. You want to be
- 0:23very specific. So if I'm going to say, should I
- 0:26expand my business to the United Kingdom? That is not
- 0:29a great decision. That is not specific. A better one is,
- 0:33is expanding to the UK the best use of my
- 0:36capital and time.
- 0:38Speaker 2: At this stage?
- 0:39Speaker 1: To produce free flowing cash because that might be my goal.
- 0:42Now there's actually a matrix that we can use to
- 0:45really understand that. It's called the Eisenhower's matrix. It's pretty
- 0:48easy to remember. All you need to do is draw
- 0:50a Y axis and an X axis. And up here,
- 0:53you've got urgent, not urgent. And then you've got important
- 0:57and not important. In the top left quadrant, we've got
- 1:00urgent and important. These are the things that we need
- 1:03to do like right away because they're both urgent and important.
- 1:07They're not urgent, but important. We need to actually schedule these.
- 1:11This is where time blocking comes in, really important, making
- 1:15sure that if it's got a deadline eventually, we're not
- 1:17leaving it to the last minute, but making sure that
- 1:20it is recognized and we're progressing it on a little bit.
- 1:24This is where we can delegate. We can give it
- 1:26to someone else so we can free up our own time.
- 1:29We're going to delete.
- 1:30Speaker 2: These things because... Why are we wasting our time?
- 1:33Speaker 1: And then the next step that we're going to do
- 1:35is we're going to get the people in the process.
- 1:37Speaker 2: We're going to people the process.
- 1:38Speaker 1: I like to say we don't actually want to distract
- 1:40people in the early stage if it's not a problem
- 1:43or if it's really not urgent and there's other pressing issues.
- 1:46If you are CEO or, you know, the manager, you
- 1:49need to be able to prioritize these kind of issues
- 1:52as well. Let's say we have decided that it is
- 1:55urgent or it is important and the time to decide
- 1:57about it is now.
- 1:59Speaker 2: This is when we get people in.
- 2:00Speaker 1: You can do a brainstorming session, write down kind of
- 2:02the people that have firsthand versus theorized knowledge. Firsthand knowledge
- 2:07is they have experienced the thing or have a high
- 2:09degree of conviction within the circle of competence. Whereas theorized knowledge,
- 2:14it should be discounted. This might be someone that knows
- 2:17someone that has.
- 2:18Speaker 2: Dealt with it.
- 2:19Speaker 1: While you're trying to get as much information as possible,
- 2:22It really is a balance.
- 2:24Speaker 2: You're kind of seeking.
- 2:25Speaker 1: Two conflicting opinions so that you can judge those opinions
- 2:28based on merit. At the same time, as Ray Dalio says, though,
- 2:32like you're better off not asking uninformed people because it's
- 2:35just going to confuse you. Sometimes that's better than having
- 2:38no answers at all. One thing that I found very,
- 2:41very useful and practical is actually just going on LinkedIn
- 2:43or Twitter and doing a post trying to find an
- 2:46expert in the subject. Then I kind of classify the expert.
- 2:49They have first hand experience. And or can they recommend
- 2:53me to someone that has? The questions that you can
- 2:55ask these people is, you know, do you think this
- 2:58is the problem? Have you experienced this before or heard
- 3:01of anyone that has? How did they or you solve it?
- 3:05Or do you have anyone else that I can talk
- 3:06to about this topic? Now, one thing I will point
- 3:08out is when you're talking to these people, you can
- 3:10actually really shape their decision making. As a leader or,
- 3:14you know, someone that they're trying to help, they will
- 3:16generally just agree with you. Now, this is really important
- 3:20around how you frame the story and frame the facts
- 3:23so that you aren't getting your biases into their story
- 3:27because they're just going to agree with you. One situation
- 3:29that is a prime example of that is I had
- 3:32a decision to make. I went to all of my advisors, mentors,
- 3:35incredibly smart people, and I framed it in the wrong
- 3:37way and it ended up costing me millions in a
- 3:39legal battle. The other thing to consider in this situation
- 3:41is two other concepts, which is skin in the game
- 3:44and incentives. If you're consulting someone within your organization or
- 3:49like an advisor that gets paid for success of course
- 3:52their decision making and their inputs into the the thing
- 3:55is going to push you to what helps them and
- 3:57that's just a natural human desire. They have their own
- 3:59confirmation biases. On the flip side, you know, it is
- 4:02really beneficial if someone has skin in the game and
- 4:05what we mean by that, if they actually have investment
- 4:08on the line, they may be less prone to take
- 4:10risks and make.
- 4:11Speaker 2: Better decisions as well.
- 4:12Speaker 1: So really do weigh those things up to make sure
- 4:15that you're talking to the right people and getting the
- 4:16right data for your next few steps.
- 4:18Speaker 2: So the third step is actually just getting as many
- 4:21alternatives as possible.
- 4:22Speaker 1: You can add this to the master doc that we've
- 4:24been preparing in the first and second stage.
- 4:27Speaker 2: Sit with the person or sit by yourself.
- 4:28Speaker 1: It could be a whiteboarding session with your team. And
- 4:31you're just going to write as many alternatives for the
- 4:34decision as possible.
- 4:34Speaker 2: Because the truth is.
- 4:36Speaker 1: There may be a situation where you can have your
- 4:38cake and eat it too. I think too many people
- 4:40look at decisions as there's two binary outcomes. It's like
- 4:43either do this or do that. And there's been lots
- 4:45of studies showing that if there's more options, people, executives
- 4:49make better decisions. One good exercise here is actually the
- 4:52vanishing options test. So for example, if you're thinking about
- 4:56hiring a new employee to do TikTok, should we make
- 5:00a hire to grow this channel?
- 5:03Speaker 2: And you might want to.
- 5:05Speaker 1: Remove that option in your workshop so that people are
- 5:09forced to think about it differently. That will make people
- 5:11think about what are some other systems and processes that
- 5:14we could do. It might be that someone within the
- 5:17team has work that they're doing that's providing no value,
- 5:20that they have some level of creativity that they can
- 5:24go and help you there. The next step is to
- 5:27classify the complication. I'm gonna use two frameworks here that
- 5:30you can incorporate in this step. The first one is
- 5:32from Jeff Bezos and it was in one of his
- 5:35shareholder letters. Again, we've got a four by four matrix
- 5:39as we usually do. So at the top, we've got
- 5:41irreversibility and we've got a line across here where this
- 5:45is high and this is low. And then on this side,
- 5:48we've got consequentiality. And then we've also got a similar
- 5:51arrow where this is high and this is low. In
- 5:54this top quadrant, top left quadrant, we've got a very
- 5:57highly irreversible decision. meaning that we can't actually go back
- 6:02on it once we decide. And then we've got, it's
- 6:04got very, very high consequences. So a good example of
- 6:08this would be like a big operating expense. You're going
- 6:10to build a new factory. You're going to rent a
- 6:13new office that you're going to grow into. That's like
- 6:15a three-year list. So in these situations, we're going to
- 6:18be slow and we're going to be calculated because it's very,
- 6:21very hard to go back. In this top right section,
- 6:24we've got a thing that possibly is reversible. So it's
- 6:27not a one-way door, but it's got high consequentiality. So
- 6:30it's a really important decision. This is where, you know,
- 6:33for example, this could be, you know, you're a single
- 6:36person founder and you're like, okay, is TikTok ads going
- 6:39to work for me?
- 6:40Speaker 2: I can buy all the media myself. It's not going
- 6:42to have a.
- 6:42Speaker 1: Huge opportunity cost. Should I test this new channel? It's
- 6:46very low irreversibility. You just turn off the channel in
- 6:49turn of consequence. It could be quite high because you
- 6:52could double your business by creating a new marketing channel.
- 6:56Speaker 2: So with this, you're going to test.
- 6:59Speaker 1: And you're going to learn, and you're going to execute
- 7:02it relatively quickly as well.
- 7:04Speaker 2: Cause it's a, it's a high impact task in the
- 7:06bottom quadrants.
- 7:07Speaker 1: We actually have a Jeff Bezos refers to as type
- 7:10two decisions. Now he just thinks that you should just
- 7:12decide on those quickly. And he generally gets his executives
- 7:16or the person that's best placed to make.
- 7:18Speaker 2: The decisions to just decide fast and act.
- 7:22Speaker 1: Now, this is actually a categorization model, which you can
- 7:25actually look at a sense-making model. I believe that maybe
- 7:28Jeff Bezos kind of adapted the Knife and Framework, which
- 7:31I'm going to show you now. Kind of different looking
- 7:33matrix here. So the idea of the framework is basically
- 7:36you're trying to put the problem, the thing that you're
- 7:38trying to decide to solve into one of these categories.
- 7:42Down the bottom right, we have what's called the obvious. Now,
- 7:46a lot of people think kind of all of their
- 7:48decisions fall into this category. This is where there's no knowns.
- 7:54And basically you can categorize it in this section and
- 7:57you can apply best practice. The step-by-step process that you
- 8:00would use for something like an obvious decision, which let's
- 8:03say for example, it's you're getting a lot of customer
- 8:06service emails. Should you apply a basic CRM framework or like,
- 8:12sign up to gorgeous.
- 8:13Speaker 2: That is, you know, best practice.
- 8:15Speaker 1: It exists. You've got a very simple problem with cause
- 8:18and effect. With this section, you're going to sense, then
- 8:22you're going to categorize, and then you're going to respond.
- 8:25We're sensing that we've got a problem. We've got lots
- 8:26of emails. We're going to categorize it into a standard issue.
- 8:31We can Google it. It's just common. And then we're
- 8:33going to respond. We're just, we don't really need to
- 8:36do too much more asides from rolling out the issue. Now,
- 8:39one thing that may come up is this obvious section,
- 8:42you might not need the entire decision-making framework that we're
- 8:46going through because you're not really involving other people in
- 8:49the process and it's quite a simple decision. So that's
- 8:52kind of where, you know, once you get really good
- 8:54at this, when you're defining the problem, you'll generally sense
- 8:57how much, you know, if you need to get other
- 8:58people involved. That's why I gave you those initial questions.
- 9:01If it is complicated, which is actually this top right section,
- 9:05you're gonna be glad we have our framework that we're
- 9:08going through. So with complicated, this is where there's known unknowns.
- 9:12So the best course of action is sense, analyze, and
- 9:16then respond. Now, I like to really put a lot
- 9:19of business decisions within the complicated section. There's variables that exist,
- 9:24they're complicated variables, but there is some level of good
- 9:28practice or best practice, and we're generally sensing the issue,
- 9:32then we're analyzing it, we're bringing people in, And then
- 9:36we're responding with, as I said, good practice. And a
- 9:38really good example of this, business forecasting. Is your business
- 9:42going to grow year on year? Like what is the
- 9:45seasonality curve? You might need to bring in your operations team.
- 9:48The top left section is actually complex. Now this is
- 9:51where you're going to probe, sense, and respond. Now this
- 9:55is where there's unknown unknowns. Now the main reason that
- 9:58I really like the Knife and Framework is it is
- 10:00humbling because if we can classify something as complex, we
- 10:04know that we can't have a high degree of conviction
- 10:07around the solution because there's an emerging practice, but it
- 10:10might not be good or best practice.
- 10:12Speaker 2: New product development.
- 10:13Speaker 1: There are so many times anyone that's had a business
- 10:16that's launch secondary products, like even at the UDI, we
- 10:19have a high degree of conviction around these product categories,
- 10:22invest lots in them and we're like, we're guaranteed this
- 10:24is going to work.
- 10:25Speaker 2: It is a complex system. There's different competitors.
- 10:29Speaker 1: For that product category or the ad ecosystem might not
- 10:32enjoy that type of content around that product.
- 10:35Speaker 2: Chaotic. Now this is.
- 10:36Speaker 1: Probably less relevant to business, but you're going to act,
- 10:40sense and respond. Now this is basically where everything just
- 10:44absolutely goes to a mess. A good example of this
- 10:46is the Tylenol crisis. People were putting cyanide capsules within
- 10:50the Tylenol packets. Johnson & Johnson in that situation, the
- 10:53seller of Tylenol, was thrown into a chaotic situation where
- 10:57lives are at risk. They really needed to act before
- 11:00probably getting all the information that they'd want to, both
- 11:03for people's safety and also their brand longevity. They managed
- 11:07to pull it all off the shelves very, very quickly
- 11:11and then do further analysis after that. probably less likely
- 11:16you're going to be thrown into a chaotic situation. It
- 11:18is our job as entrepreneurs and CEOs to avoid chaotic
- 11:22situations by risk analysis before it becomes a chaotic situation.
- 11:27And this is, I think, another thing that I love
- 11:29about the Knife and Framework. We tend as entrepreneurs and
- 11:33business owners to build systems to make things obvious all
- 11:38the time. So we're trying to Put things into the
- 11:40obvious category. We build certain meeting cadences where we're like, okay,
- 11:44we meet on this every week. You know, forecasting is
- 11:47good example or, you know, marketing plans and stuff like that.
- 11:50And we're like, this is working, this is working. And
- 11:52then an iOS privacy update hits. And then we're thrown
- 11:56into a chaotic situation or a complex situation. And this
- 11:59is why it's drawn a little bit weird. because this
- 12:02section here is actually a cliff. We're operating in this
- 12:06obvious section without constantly analyzing it and adjusting it. And
- 12:10then suddenly we find ourselves in one of these situations.
- 12:13So it's basically a lesson of not being complacent always
- 12:17kind of analyzing and doing risk analysis. Now, once you've
- 12:20gone through either the Jeff Bezos or the Knife and Framework,
- 12:22you might wanna go back to step one or step two.
- 12:25This is because you might have a lesser degree of
- 12:28conviction because you understand the complexities around the system.
- 12:31Speaker 2: So the next step I love to refer to as
- 12:33data the decision.
- 12:34Speaker 1: Now, this is really, really important and you can't skip
- 12:38this step because we are human beings and we generally
- 12:41have a lot of biases that affect our ability to
- 12:45make the right decision in these situations. you've got two
- 12:47types of biases that you need to be very, very
- 12:49aware of. The first one is confirmation bias. Generally, when
- 12:52we go into these decision-making, we have some level of
- 12:56original position that we have. And that original position is
- 13:01based on previous life experiences or previous things we've been told.
- 13:06The truth is we might be wrong. but we have
- 13:08this initial position that is hard to dislodge.
- 13:11Speaker 2: We need to.
- 13:12Speaker 1: Remove this if we're going to think objectively about the
- 13:15decision and solve the problem accordingly. Data is one of
- 13:18the best ways to do this. The second thing we
- 13:20need to consider.
- 13:21Speaker 2: As well is loss aversion.
- 13:22Speaker 1: I think that this is a really, really big one
- 13:24for someone that is already successful. Humans typically feel losses
- 13:28twice as badly as they feel wins. So generally when
- 13:31we have something that is worth keeping, we really, really
- 13:35try to avoid losing it. Now, what this generally means
- 13:38is we can sometimes become very risk adverse. There are
- 13:42countless examples of this, obviously within business, like you want
- 13:45to be Netflix.
- 13:46Speaker 2: You don't want to be blockbuster.
- 13:47Speaker 1: They obviously had a huge amount of loss aversion for
- 13:50their existing business model, their huge amount of stores and
- 13:53stuff like that. They failed to make their products digital.
- 13:56And then Netflix obviously started taking their market share. The
- 13:59main thing that I like to do once I have,
- 14:01you know, the alternatives and I started to get a
- 14:03lot of data. I like to make a decision making
- 14:06tree and try to assign probability to that. One of
- 14:09the key things with the decision making tree is the
- 14:12formula return on invested capital. We are constantly looking at
- 14:17decisions that we make within business around return on invested
- 14:20capital or return on invested time as well, if we're
- 14:23a solo entrepreneur. So for example, let's work with a
- 14:27growth plan. We've got two options as a business. We
- 14:30can either create a new product, launch it in our
- 14:33existing region, Or we could expand globally like my UK
- 14:37example before. So here we have growth plan, and then
- 14:41we have our two decisions out this way and out
- 14:44this way. We have new product and we've got new region.
- 14:49Now looking at this, you probably spotted a flaw. We've
- 14:51got new product and new region, but because we've mapped
- 14:54out all of our alternatives before, we also know that
- 14:57there's a fourth option, which is actually do nothing. which
- 15:02is basically we're going to continue investing our funds into
- 15:06our existing products and our existing region as well. So
- 15:10we've got all of our decisions here now, but we
- 15:12need to start adding data to this decision-making tree so
- 15:15we can start visualizing it. Now, the new product, we're
- 15:18going to use a return on invested capital framework.
- 15:21Speaker 2: This might cost $ 50, 000 to create. Now, you'll.
- 15:25Speaker 1: You've got to get your team to come up with
- 15:28a product. There's a lot of development. You know, that
- 15:32MOQs of the order is going to be high rather than,
- 15:35you know, say an existing region where you're just selling
- 15:38your existing products. This might only cost like $ 10, 000 because
- 15:43all you really need to do is grab the product
- 15:45from your warehouse that already exists.
- 15:48Speaker 2: And pay the shipping costs.
- 15:49Speaker 1: You might need to set up a warehouse or a 3PL,
- 15:52which is relatively cheap.
- 15:53Speaker 2: So we've got a.
- 15:55Speaker 1: Significant difference in costs here. And then we've obviously got
- 15:59do nothing, which cost is $ 0, which isn't actually the case,
- 16:04which I'll get into in just a little bit when
- 16:06we look at the returns of this, but it's something
- 16:09to consider there as well. So the next step that
- 16:11I like to do is actually just draw a line
- 16:13down here and we're going to do our return on
- 16:16invested capital. So basically if we say, let's say we
- 16:20invest $ 1, 000 into this new product, and we make $ 100, 000,
- 16:26that's 1,000% return on investor capital. You could use percentages,
- 16:30but let's just say dollar amount. This product is going
- 16:34to make us $ 100, 000 over a set period of time. Remember,
- 16:37you need to keep the time variable consistent across this.
- 16:41Speaker 2: Hitting a new.
- 16:42Speaker 1: Feature product for Udi, it's not going to beat the Udi.
- 16:45We might just be happy that it's doing you know,
- 16:47say 10% within that region of that product category. The
- 16:50second option here is perhaps we are able to sell
- 16:54the new product, but it's not a huge success. There's
- 16:57no really returns, but we're able to kind of sell
- 17:00the inventory at cost and get our money back. So
- 17:03let's just say, um, we have a $ 0 here. The
- 17:06other option is it completely bombs. It's we spent all
- 17:09the money on development, all of the money on, on
- 17:12people as well. and it turns out that we minus
- 17:16the $.
- 17:17Speaker 2: 50, 000 here.
- 17:18Speaker 1: Now, if we're going new region, let's say we're going to,
- 17:21there's a good chance that if this region works, let's
- 17:25use the UK versus Australia example, the region is considerably
- 17:29bigger than Australia, the trend is really hot, so we
- 17:32might be able to expect a $ 1 million return for
- 17:37this option because we can apply all of our same
- 17:40processes Despite the initial cost being $ 10, 000, we're going to
- 17:45have to reinvest more in inventory, obviously, but we're talking
- 17:49about upfront the returns, the data that we're going to
- 17:52get from this decision that we're about to make, whether
- 17:54to invest in a new product or send some product
- 17:56over to the UK.
- 17:57Speaker 2: The probably middle tier.
- 17:58Speaker 1: Again, is let's say $ 0, we get the stock there
- 18:02and we have to clear it at cost. There's always
- 18:04going to be a couple of options there. And then
- 18:06the other one is minus $ 10, 000, which we've invested into
- 18:09the product. And then of course, down here, we've got $ 0. Now,
- 18:13the final step that I like to do is I
- 18:15like to look at all of these options and I go, okay,
- 18:17which is most likely? Let's say the new product hitting
- 18:21success in my existing region is maybe based on my
- 18:27past success is maybe a 30% chance in terms of
- 18:32clearing it, might be more of like a 60% chance.
- 18:37And then there's a 10% chance I'll lose it all.
- 18:39I'm just giving some examples here. And then in terms
- 18:43of the new region, what I'll look at is, you know,
- 18:46considering I will look at a lot of different variables,
- 18:49some of them that I've just mentioned, but there's maybe,
- 18:51you know, a 60% chance that I can make this
- 18:54new region work with all of my existing systems, maybe 30%.
- 18:58And then again, a 10% chance that it will fail.
- 19:03And then, you know, this is obviously 100% because it
- 19:06needs to add up to 100%. So just by visualizing this,
- 19:10you can see that the best option is probably to
- 19:13do a new region with my existing products because there's
- 19:16a significant upside, a lower upfront cost, and yeah, not
- 19:22that much downside. The one thing I will talk about
- 19:25is around doing nothing is a big factor of, you know,
- 19:29by doing nothing, you're basically saying that that time and
- 19:33that capital should be applied to your existing framework, your
- 19:37existing flywheel. So you could calculate your return on invested capital,
- 19:42let's use URI for example, for our existing regions and
- 19:45our existing product categories. What is our return on invested
- 19:48capital there? And that should actually be this metric down
- 19:52the bottom right. So if you are a new entrepreneur,
- 19:54the truth is this doesn't actually incorporate all the data
- 19:57that you're going to need. You might want to be
- 19:59looking at more things than return on invested capital, like
- 20:01cashflow as well, because this new region, as I referenced before,
- 20:07While the upfront cost to get to the more data
- 20:11and to feel out the decision may require a significant
- 20:15amount of cash upfront before we can realize this million
- 20:20dollars of return on invested capital. So keep that in
- 20:24mind as well. Also keep in mind the opportunity cost
- 20:27of your team and what they're currently working on, as
- 20:30well as other risks that we kind of can highlight
- 20:33through the rest of the process. So if we can recap,
- 20:35we've basically decided if the problem's worth solving, we've gone
- 20:39through all of the alternatives, we've brought people in, we've
- 20:42classified the problems, we've identified risks through categorizing the product.
- 20:47We've really used data to refine our decision-making. Now it's
- 20:51time to actually decide. Now it's really important that when
- 20:54you're leading teams, that once you make the decision, the
- 20:57whole team rallies behind the decision. There can be really
- 21:00thoughtful disagreement during the process, during what we've just talked about.
- 21:05But once you have a high degree of conviction, this
- 21:07is the path that you need to do. Then everyone
- 21:09needs to rally behind it. Now this can be done
- 21:12through milestones, such as, you know, if we look at
- 21:15the categorization method and we're like, okay, we only need
- 21:18to probe sense, and then respond, then we may be
- 21:21able to build some tests around the decision rather than
- 21:24just going fully in. This is where I do like
- 21:27OKRs because we can basically go, let's say we're talking
- 21:30about new product diversification. You can put a really small
- 21:34milestone three months out that you're going to at least
- 21:37get that product up on Facebook ads to test if
- 21:40it's going to work in the future. You don't want
- 21:42to put a KPI or something like that with your
- 21:45team to say, we need to do $ 500, 000 in sales
- 21:49for this product category when you don't even know it's
- 21:52going to work. If there's no urgency around the decision,
- 21:54make sure that you build some sensible tests.
- 21:58Speaker 2: To cover your risk as well.
- 21:59Speaker 1: If you enjoyed today's episode, make sure you leave some
- 22:01feedback below. I know it can be a little bit dry,
- 22:03but this kind of stuff is going to change your life.
- 22:06And just being a little bit more pragmatic and slow
- 22:09to make the decisions where you're able to make slowly
- 22:12is really going to get you out of a lot
- 22:13of mess. So in terms of a series of questions
- 22:16and also this entire framework, I'll leave it in our
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