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Coo’dunnit? Pigeon Heists w/ Deacon Jacquis Neal · Scam Goddess

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  Speaker 1: Scal Come.
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  Speaker 2: Rob, froll.
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  Speaker 2: Rob, that's Froll, Goddess. What's popping Congregation? It's your girl.
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  Speaker 2: Lacey Mosley aka scam.
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  Speaker 3: God is back to you with the comedy podcast all
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  Speaker 3: about robbery, fraud and those who practice it. Sometimes we
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  Speaker 3: I'm Verry what Yes, excited through elated to have a
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  Speaker 3: homecoming of the d Wow the deacon on this show. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: now listen. We can't start the new year without one
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  Speaker 3: of the best things. You might recognize his voice from everywhere. No, seriously,
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  Speaker 3: the nda is are thick, but he is with us
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  Speaker 3: all the time. You can't see it, but I'm looking
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  Speaker 3: suspiciously side to side.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 3: His voice can be heard on the Nickelodeon shows and
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  Speaker 3: films and Netflix and video games and commercials and more.
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  Speaker 3: He hosts his hit monthly show, Comedian Clash and you've
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  Speaker 3: seen him on Dropout TV and his hit show Crowd Control,
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  Speaker 3: which is coming back for a season. So congregation, please
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  Speaker 3: welcome back the Deacon Chuck ca Sneil.
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  Speaker 2: To the show. Hey man a man ay.
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  Speaker 1: Scam, Hallelujah, hallelujah.
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  Speaker 2: Gotta pronounce the jay you got.
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  Speaker 1: We gotta pronounce every letter. Hallela, Juliet ju What what's
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  Speaker 1: up to ys?
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  Speaker 2: It's been too long, I know it has. It's so
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  Speaker 2: good to see you.
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  Speaker 1: Know what I love about you? Know what I love
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  Speaker 1: about U? People popping and people having success? Uh, is
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  Speaker 1: they have success. But then you don't see We don't
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  Speaker 1: see each other anymore because everybody's doing shit. Everybody's working.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: So like whenever we see each other, it's always in passive,
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  Speaker 1: but it's always like a beautiful It's so good to.
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  Speaker 2: See yours, like which is nice?
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  Speaker 1: Which is nice? Which is nice? I you too?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like I've been your ass down. Luckily we have
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  Speaker 3: social media. I guess I see what we can see.
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  Speaker 3: We can see with each other too. Yeah, but we
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  Speaker 3: use I think people.
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  Speaker 1: One day people are gonna like look back on our
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  Speaker 1: era of comedy uh and be like, oh, they used
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  Speaker 1: to actually see each other and do shows like four
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  Speaker 1: or five days we together.
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  Speaker 3: We used to see each other all the time. Why're
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  Speaker 3: coming up with every week our little cults.
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  Speaker 1: Every week each other? And now and now look at.
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  Speaker 2: Us now and I'm proud.
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  Speaker 1: I'm proud. I'm proud, proud, I'm proud of you.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: We always ask on this show. You know, Bacon, oh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, what is your relationship with scams right now?
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  Speaker 2: Do you love him? Do you hate him? As anything
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  Speaker 2: happened like you don't want to talk about now?
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  Speaker 1: You know I didn't. I didn't. I didn't admit it
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  Speaker 1: to some crimes on this on this podcast. I'm a
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  Speaker 1: statue of dam a statue. I look at my young
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  Speaker 1: self and I'm even talking like two three years ago,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, nigga, what was you doing? You? You
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  Speaker 1: was talking too much? You was too because now I
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  Speaker 1: got money, And I'm like, brother, you may have fucked
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  Speaker 1: up your money four years ago, but so you know,
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  Speaker 1: I love a scam. I got scammed. I got real scammed.
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  Speaker 1: I got real scam. Now, I will say because I
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  Speaker 1: feel people, I feel I know people are getting tight,
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  Speaker 1: like oh jack keys, no money was taken because I
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  Speaker 1: caught it. I caught it before the money was taken.
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  Speaker 1: All right, here's what I didn't know. I felt like
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  Speaker 1: a boom. I feel like a boomer. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: a boom boom baby, because like I didn't know, there
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  Speaker 1: is a thing called fishing. Have you ever heard of this? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: of course, I ain't never heard of this ship. I've
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  Speaker 1: seen it, but I ain't never experienced it.
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  Speaker 2: Because I'm like, you ain't even been fished.
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  Speaker 1: I ain't never been fishing.
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  Speaker 2: A scam likely call at least once or twice a.
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  Speaker 1: Day, but I get no. No, that's the thing. I
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  Speaker 1: get a scam likely call, great, and if it's a
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  Speaker 1: number on the recognized I'm not picking up. These motherfuckers
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  Speaker 1: called me from my bank's number.
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  Speaker 3: Like they fish, they can replicate, they can replicate the number.
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  Speaker 1: So I get a call and this pops up on
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  Speaker 1: my bank. I'm gonna put them on blast because I
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  Speaker 1: ain't win them no more. Gang credit Union and I'm like, oh, gang.
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  Speaker 2: Call, gang gang credit union.
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  Speaker 1: Gang game game with the end g a A I
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  Speaker 1: n oh game with And that was with gang credit
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  Speaker 1: Union I would deserve. I was talking about gang gang Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was that gang. Yeah. I got my cousin back
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  Speaker 1: in the back in the way.
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  Speaker 2: Gang Credit Union.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't fuck with game credit.
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  Speaker 2: They got a bat in the trunk, Like they're not
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  Speaker 2: playing no games.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah you scam on Gang Credit Union. They coming to
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  Speaker 1: your crib with the bag. Then I might listen where
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  Speaker 1: the homies at? Where the homies at?
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  Speaker 2: So game.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't gaming assets, okay, okay.
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  Speaker 1: So I get a call game and like first's like
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  Speaker 1: the firstus, like the non American speaking person. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, did.
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  Speaker 2: They live in India?
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I can't remember where they lived, but it
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  Speaker 1: was somewhere around there.
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  Speaker 3: It was India, Asia, the call centers in India, because.
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  Speaker 1: I know it has to be a time I could
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  Speaker 1: hear it. That was That should have been my first
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  Speaker 1: tip because I can hear it in the background. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: why is so loud? It's loud as hell back there,
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  Speaker 1: Like what is y'all doing? Too much going on? Right?
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  Speaker 1: But I'm like, but they was like, hey, we got
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  Speaker 1: a like a wire that came to your like credit,
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  Speaker 1: your like bank account and something that's going on. We
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  Speaker 1: think you may have been frauded. Now Here's where I
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  Speaker 1: kind of fucked up. Because my aunt had just wired
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  Speaker 1: me something, and who wires anything? Like, but she oh,
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  Speaker 1: so she wired me something. So I'm like, oh, maybe
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  Speaker 1: she messed up. So I was like, okay, this was
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  Speaker 1: a whole skeptical so me on the hook a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: I was like the timing was right.
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  Speaker 2: Because Auntie was doing anti activity.
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  Speaker 1: Auntie was doing anti activities, and so they was like
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  Speaker 1: I was like okay. So I was like, kay, do
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  Speaker 1: you want to speak to the next person? Which should
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  Speaker 1: have been my second tip ball, because I'm like, why
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  Speaker 1: you ain't the person you called me? You should be
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  Speaker 1: the person, not the person. You're not the person talk
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  Speaker 1: about some.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on right?
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  Speaker 1: You called me?
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  Speaker 2: Hey?
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  Speaker 1: Hello? All right, can you hold on.
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  Speaker 2: For a second. Yeah, we got to get the next person.
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  Speaker 1: We got to get the next person for it. So
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  Speaker 1: then I get then it's quiet. I get the next person.
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  Speaker 1: It's quiet American speaking person. So now I'm just harmed.
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  Speaker 1: WOWU lit's say you get quiet and American And I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just harmed.
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  Speaker 3: Now I don't understand why you were calm American accent.
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  Speaker 1: I shouldn't have been I shouldn't have been lived in Europe.
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  Speaker 3: I've lived and and sometimes I don't get discriminated because
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  Speaker 3: I'm black or a woman. I get discriminated against when
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  Speaker 3: American accent comes up because they noticed as a scam.
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  Speaker 3: They know we live in a scam guy.
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  Speaker 1: And I should have known. Again, that should have been
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  Speaker 1: my third tip off. That should have been my third
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  Speaker 1: tip off, and it wasn't. Like I should have got
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  Speaker 1: like a nice white lady from Jump, and I got
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  Speaker 1: like somebody non American, and then some like I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what he sounded like, but some dude I should
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  Speaker 1: have been, And then Michael I got. I got a
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  Speaker 1: Michael and then dude just start asking me questions and
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  Speaker 1: eventually had me give him my credit card number to
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  Speaker 1: be like. He was just like, this is what happened.
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  Speaker 1: This is the wire, this is the amount. We just
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  Speaker 1: want to verify, like you verify your like your bank,
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  Speaker 1: your card number. And I was like, okay, this is that.
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  Speaker 1: It's like what's three digit? And the whole time in
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  Speaker 1: my head he asked me for the CVV. The CV
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  Speaker 1: he asked me for. I don't even know what CVV
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  Speaker 1: stand for. He asked me what stand.
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  Speaker 2: Just what a CBV stand for? Can we put.
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  Speaker 1: Credit verification Variety?
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  Speaker 2: Credit verification value value.
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  Speaker 1: That's for the credit verification value. And I gave him
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  Speaker 1: that ship who was not your keys? Now, listen, you
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  Speaker 1: know I know if your.
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  Speaker 2: Bank is calling you.
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  Speaker 3: And I've said this many moons ago, I'm gonna say
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  Speaker 3: it again. Your bank is like a jealous girlfriend who
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  Speaker 3: went through your phone. They know everything already. They don't
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  Speaker 3: need you to confirm things that they know.
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  Speaker 1: What's Lady, I'm almost forty, all right, and I'm starting.
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  Speaker 3: You cannot give up. Listen, you are a deacon in
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  Speaker 3: this church. You can slide into.
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  Speaker 1: You are still young, I know. Listen. By the time
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  Speaker 1: I gave him everything, I was like, this don't feel right.
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  Speaker 1: So as soon as I'll hung up, I called game
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  Speaker 1: back and I was like, did y'all just call me?
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  Speaker 1: And they was like, nah, brother, you you got got
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  Speaker 1: And I had to shut it all down. I shut
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  Speaker 1: it all down. I changed banks. I ain't gonna say.
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  Speaker 2: My bank's fault.
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  Speaker 1: It was my fault.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't gang's fall.
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  Speaker 1: I love. I was like, if y'all too, if y'all
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  Speaker 1: weak enough to get your number fished, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to be with your.
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  Speaker 2: Bank nombre okay, But they fish and everybody bank nah NOA.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta lay blame somewhere else besides all
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  Speaker 1: in my feet. I can't lay blame. I can't just
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  Speaker 1: keep the blame right on me. I need somebody to
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  Speaker 1: be mad at game. And so I left game. I
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  Speaker 1: left game. Game was on some other ship too, and
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  Speaker 1: that was the final STRO was like it's time and
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  Speaker 1: I got scammed. I got scammed and I called it
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  Speaker 1: though that I came back to my mil I came back.
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  Speaker 1: I called it, and they didn't take no money out.
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  Speaker 1: We got John Cena. Uh what is this? That's me?
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  Speaker 1: If I said I gave up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we gotta post this on Instagram. If I said this,
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  Speaker 3: it means that I gave up. I gave Sena in
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  Speaker 3: a headlock, which looks to be by John Cena by Gunther.
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  Speaker 1: John Cena just retired like two days ago. That was
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: his retirement match. He gave retirement, gave he done, He finished.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty three year career. That declined.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, that defined a generation of wrestling. John Cena
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  Speaker 3: has wrestled his final match, and in true old school tradition,
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  Speaker 3: he went out on his back to elevate the next
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  Speaker 3: big star.
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  Speaker 1: He gave up the first time he's ever given up
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  Speaker 1: in twenty years. He gave up.
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  Speaker 2: How much money you think they gave him to tap
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  Speaker 2: out like that?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? He you know he got he got millions.
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  Speaker 2: John Cena follows me on Twitter. He was everybody.
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  Speaker 1: He follows every Yeah, let me tell you, man, John
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  Speaker 1: Cena follow too many John Cena. When I was on Twitter,
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: I would go to the worst person I know and
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: we would only have one mutual and it would be
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: John Cena. Like, why is John Cena following Charlie Kirk?
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  Speaker 1: Why is John Cena following?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: What's the dude?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: With Tate? What's the Andrew Tate? That nigga was following everybody,
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  Speaker 1: following everybody. I was like, I gotta following. I gotta
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  Speaker 1: unfollow John Cena.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I guess I think I still follow him.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if he'd be putting stuff out.
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  Speaker 1: John ain't no pushing it out. He know he don't
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  Speaker 1: ever be putting stuff out. But he follow everybody. He
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  Speaker 1: follow everybody that he does. It's very funny.
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  Speaker 2: Oh child, don't give up, Deacon.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: I don't get scammed by game bank, fake.
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  Speaker 1: I won't I'm done. I'm done because I left Gang.
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  Speaker 1: I left gang. It ain't on me. It's not on me.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta jumped out of gang.
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  Speaker 3: Y'all stay with Gang gangspost of the show.
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  Speaker 1: Yo, if Gang Bank sponsors show, I'll go back. I'll
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  Speaker 1: go back.
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  Speaker 2: Know why you would leave them?
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  Speaker 1: Like man goes if you're all right? If you got
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  Speaker 1: a boyfriend and and your boyfriend's phone calls you, you
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  Speaker 1: and you would be like, yo, why you get your
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: phone away? Right? But if somebody else you can, You're
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  Speaker 1: gonna give him some of the blame.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, But they copied the number.
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  Speaker 3: Anybody can do that with anybody numbers, right, strengthen your numbers.
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  Speaker 3: I feel as though you are blaming the victim even
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  Speaker 3: games like victim.
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  Speaker 2: Was like, hey, it's not us, bro, Like.
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  Speaker 1: I put I took my money out immediately, They was like,
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  Speaker 1: you want a new account. I was like, you can
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  Speaker 1: do that, but also I'm coming to take my money
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  Speaker 1: out right now, right now, and you a credit union.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, man, you gotta be better than that.
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  Speaker 3: Gus. Come, let's get into my favorite part of this episode,
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  Speaker 3: historic Hoodwig's. This is where I will regale your keys
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  Speaker 3: with the name of ton Caper group of criminals.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see and we'll get his opinions all through.
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  Speaker 3: So, thanks to getting popular among Chinese billionaires, pigeon racing
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  Speaker 3: has become the world's richest sport.
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  Speaker 2: What and an international.
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  Speaker 3: Pigeon stealing ring has been nabbing the fastest birds from
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  Speaker 3: mom and pop pigeon finance years all over Belgium.
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  Speaker 1: What they stealing pigeons.
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  Speaker 3: So what I want to say is that pigeons are
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  Speaker 3: the black people of birds. Yeah, okay, a pigeon is
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  Speaker 3: a dove. Yeah, a pigeon is a dove. It's just
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  Speaker 3: dark skin and it was enslaved.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, I released this like, oh heaven, like this is beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: But the pigeons, we be kicking them off.
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  Speaker 3: We kicked them, kicking them of the sky because they
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  Speaker 3: be they be looking crazy.
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  Speaker 2: White.
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  Speaker 1: I'm the white man of the pigeons. Pigeons, I know, listen,
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  Speaker 1: I know Mike Tyson was catching them and ship. Yeah, yeah, pigeons,
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  Speaker 1: that was reparations. That's crazy pigeons. Pigeons do have a
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  Speaker 1: bad rep because you know why though, because they because
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  Speaker 1: unlike us, they bellering in your business. They be too close,
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  Speaker 1: they be too close.
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  Speaker 2: We bothered them. We bothered them carrier pigeons. We used
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  Speaker 2: to like work and then we were like, oh we
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  Speaker 2: got new technology. We don't need employ out no more.
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  Speaker 3: Like we're not leaving, bitch, Like we're gonna kick it
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: over here, like what you got in your trash?
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: What you got over here?
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, it's like these used to be our streets.
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  Speaker 1: Now y'all got cars exactly. Yeah, I'm I'm gonna wait
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  Speaker 1: till the last minute to get about.
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  Speaker 2: Your way exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Damn right. I never thought of it like that. Damn Sorry.
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  Speaker 3: Pigeon pigeons are standing on business. And I used to
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  Speaker 3: discriminate against pictures into the pigeon propaganda. But then I
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  Speaker 3: had to realize, like, pigeons are black people.
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  Speaker 1: Because you lived You lived in New York for a minute, right,
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  Speaker 1: and I I'm from Chicago, so you know we Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: our pigeons them the rets of the sky.
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  Speaker 3: They love to be in our business because they're like,
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  Speaker 3: we're not scared of you. We've been around giass forever.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes they be looking crazy. I don't know what it is,
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  Speaker 1: because if you just look at them, they they beautiful colors.
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  Speaker 1: But like they I think they blend in with too
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  Speaker 1: much dark ship, which sounds racist. Fun it does they
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  Speaker 1: blend in. It's like they blend in with like the street.
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  Speaker 1: They blend in with like no, but they be having like.
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  Speaker 2: A little blue, a little green on them, sometimes a
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  Speaker 2: little purple.
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  Speaker 1: They're cuty some of them like look at that, like
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  Speaker 1: they're very beautiful. We have.
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  Speaker 2: Black is beauty.
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  Speaker 1: Black is black as little black is buttery. Black is
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  Speaker 1: bea black.
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  Speaker 3: As you said it sounds actually legit. Black is beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, black is beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: Black is beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: So look, pigeons can find their own way home, which
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  Speaker 3: is dope.
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  Speaker 2: That's why they're called homing pigeons.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody really knows how they do it, but the special
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  Speaker 3: skill has been used for thousands of years for everything
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  Speaker 3: from carrying out urgent messages for ancient Egyptians to troop
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  Speaker 3: deployment during.
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  Speaker 1: World War One.
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  Speaker 3: Like pigeons have been employed. That's why they're like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: we don't stay business like.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah we yeah, they were our like useful
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  Speaker 1: most useful bird.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like we're not going to wear it.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: So I mean they're really smart. Yes, they're really smart.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Because if I gave you give a dog some ship
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: or cat like that they gone.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: A cat, especially a cat, especially a dog, may actually
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: come back. Or like you know you're falling the well
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: the dogs dogs like cat eat your face if you died,
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: like guess, don't give damn.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: They be on their own ship, on their own ship,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: and like if.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: They didn't smell so weird like cats.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: I have some friends who have cats who have like
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: the very high end tech machines where the cat goes
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: to poop and a little bitter, but it's like a
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: very it's so clean.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: It's a self cleaning little box.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so their houses don't smell. But most my cat
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: owner friends they have to stank. And they have one
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: they've gone nose blind to it.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: They can't.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, I will say this because as a person
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: who I no longer have cats, but I had two
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: cats for a very long time, and you still got
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: to clean. You clean your little box once or twice
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: a day. Your house won't stink. But when I do
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: come home from like vacation or some ship, and then
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: I come home and I walk in the house refresh
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: and I'd be like, oh, it do be smelling like
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: a barn up in here sometimes, But that's because like
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: other people have been taking care of mine, you know,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: when I'm there at the crib, it's fine.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Everything.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Well, now I have cats, so my house.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: I also won't eat.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: Like if y'all listened to this podcast for the six
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: years we've been on, y'all know, I don't eat house food,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: which means if you cooked.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: It at your house, you eat other people's house. No.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: I don't do no like I mean, yeah.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: You do something, Yeah, you do cookoutse though, but I'm
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: seeing them cooking it out. Got to see cooking it out.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: And outside, and I'm saying it no, no, no no.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: And if you have a cat, I absolutely will not
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: eat your.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: House because like that depends, that's a different counter.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: I let them.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: I got a friend who posts a picture like, oh
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: this is so cute, and it was her cat in
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: the fridge.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: I said it though her rich writer.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, my cat. My cats were not allowed
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: on the kitchen counters. They were not allowed on the
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: kitchen tables. They were not allowed. My dog wasn't allowed
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: on the couch. You can't keep a cat off the couch.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: But my dog wasn't allowed on the couch unless I said,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: come up on here. I had to welcome him onto
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: the couch, vampire.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, to get inside.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: May I please get to? May I please? Yes? You
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: may so.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Carrier pigeons have been doing all this work for us, right, yeah,
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: especially bread ones, not the regular street pigeons that you're
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: seeing like Brian Park or you know in the New
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: York They can.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Fly a thousand miles.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: These are especially bred ones. They can fly a thousand
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: miles and reached top speeds of ninety miles per hour
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: over short.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Distances how long like a day? They doing houry an hour?
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Damn in the sky, God, damn. We need to re
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: employ pigeons.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: The Reuters News agency started out using homing pigeons for real.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: That's how they was getting the news to people. Left
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: that part of Game of Thrones where they had like the.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: It was ravens, the ravens.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's like we really did have that. We
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: had it in pigeons. Yes, and look we got this
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: piccheon up here right now flixing.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and you know what ravens because ravens also
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: signified death and you know, scary shit like Edgar Allen
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Pole type shit, whereas a pigeons, like I'm not scared
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: of a pigeon?
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Did you know ravens can talk?
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: No?
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: What I thought only Paris could talk. But apparently yep it.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: What kind of talking, like just saying like human words.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: I do know. I do know ravens can like Actually,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: I probably did know this because if you they can mimic,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: they can mimic like human sounds. Yes, I didn't know this.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: I did not know birds.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, it was just because that's how they get
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: you in the woods. That's how they get you in
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: the woods. That's how they get you in the woods.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: You'd be like, who was that? Who was that? Somebody
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: hearing to be a raven? Can I tell you I
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: don't mean the derailists. Can I tell you a funny
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: raven story? Okay, I was in Paris. I was in Forsai,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: so not technically Paris, but Paris. I was at Forsai
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Beautiful day. I had done the whole tour. I was
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: in the gardens. I was high as hell. I was
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: on the edible. I was eating a little bag at
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: and I'm high. So that's the caveat to this whole story.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: And I'm eating a little bag at, I got the
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: little mustard of Mayo packets. I put some on my
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: little sandwich and a bee comes around and I don't like.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I don't like bees. I like swatted away. I get up.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I walk to the next bench, but I accidentally leave
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: a Mayo packet on the on the bench that I
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: was on. A raven comes off over and he like
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: gets up on like the bench and he like pecks
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: at the Mayo packet and it's closed, and I'm like, oh,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: and he looks at me and he cocks his head,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: and my my high ass thinks, oh shit, he mad
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: at me because I didn't open the Mayo packet and
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: so like, and so he's looking at me and he
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: like take a step forward. I'm like, my thinking, is
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: he see my sandwich? He was like, that's where it is,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: That's where that mayo is. And then a white woman
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: walks past, and I make eye contact with her, and
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: she looks at the raven and then she looks at
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: me and she gives me one of these. And I
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: was like, if the white woman is scared, I gotta
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: get the fuck up out of here. So I get
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: up and I run away, and the raven starts following me,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: and so I'm run. I'm hiding my sandwich in my
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: little like sweater, and then it finally leaves and I'm like,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: all right, bet I outran it. Two minutes later, the
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: raven comes back. Now a non high person would be like,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: this is just a different raven. My high ass is
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: like this mother fucking found me again. And I'm sprinting
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: through the gardens of running from a raven high as
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: hell to the point I got lost. It took me
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: like twenty minutes to find my way out of Better
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: say sorry, I was about to get caught.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Better save this. Okay, that raven was already pissed at you.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: You know you had me. I knew you know who
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: was that.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: It was me. It was games, Literally, it was games.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: It was gangs fall, games taking all the Listen the
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: c i A strapped cameras to pigeons and used them
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: as spies across the Soviet Union during the Cold War.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Fuck the pictures not do was copies? How they do spies?
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: How they spies?
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Listen, look and we got a pigeon right up there.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Traffickers have used pigeons to move small quantities of heroin
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: and getting me.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: What is that drugs in the pigeons.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in the in the booty, I think in the booty.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Yo, if you ever give me drugs that came out
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: the booty of a pigeon, you know, you were.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Like, I'm gonna be mad taking drugs casually.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: But if you got pigeon booty drugs coming.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: To your backpack as a backpack.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's a there's a problem.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: There's a pigeon booty, pigeon drugs.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is fine.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I can't do it. Like where
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: where these drugs is at?
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: No, hold on, We're gonna go to the club, but
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: that pigeon is gonna come up.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, I gotta
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: get this out of his booty. Go back. The pigeon screaming.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Right like what everybody taking real quick for he about
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: to have man movement, y'all take it real.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Pigeons, we shouldn't too much exactly drugs. Yes, they do much.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: They do it so they aren't used to carry messages anymore,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: but they do still take part in pigeon races in
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: some parts of the world.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: It's interesting.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: One is in Belgium, and I've talked about pigeon races
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: before we talked about scam out of Canada about this, huh,
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: but where like pigeon racing started as a hobby for
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: working class families in the eteent like in the early
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: eighteen hundreds. And the other is China where billionaires spill
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: like they spend whole fortunes trying to win high stake
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: races by whatever means necessary. Like they really are into
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: this pigeon bedding.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: So like you can train a pigeon to race and
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: if and if the pigeon wins, you win like the prize.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: So like they are basically like it's they're they're just
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: getting pigeons to like be like horses basically like you
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: have your pin, Okay, I get you, I get you.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: And I mean, like gambling culture is so high that
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: like I saw.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: A Little League team post on Instagram that was like,
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: please don't bet on our games, Like wi, these.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Are children betting on children as wild.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Like they betting on anything.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't trust betting on a bird because like
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: I get, all right, you can train the bird, but
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: like like when you're on a horse, there's a person
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: on that horse, right, so the course the person is
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: in somewhat of control. Although if that horse just decided
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: we done, buddy, were done, We fucking done.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: It's the reason we call people bird brains. Yeah, that
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: doesn't seem like the brain to bet all.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: That's not because if the bird is like you, like,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: I'm a gone hand to go south for the winner, right,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: just boots?
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Is that a let me get in the line?
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Is that a school of birds? I feel like going
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: to school?
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: I can't trust it. I can't put no money on that.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: That's too much. There's too many variables.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: So Chinese tycoons they were willing to put that money
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: on it, okay, And beginning around twenty nineteen, wealthy Chinese
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: industrialists started spending millions of dollars on Belgian pigeons. Most
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: forms of gambling were illegal on mainland China, but pigeon
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: racing got to pass. If you wanted to get into
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: sports betting, pigeons were the only options. So that's trying
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: to make sense now why they were like, wow, they
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: were Yeah, I'm a gambling attic.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: I got a gambling pigeons.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: So what's a Belgian what's the difference between a Belgian
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: pigeon I.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: Feel like racism. Yeah, you know, like black British people
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: be getting all our jobs.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, the Belgians, these New York pictures like I can
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: go fast too, I can go fast too. And then
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: there's a pigeon.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: They bet what the Belgian pigeon doing.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: We only want the best pigeons running from Belgium.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: I'm a British, I'm a European pigeon.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: That's a good pigeon right now.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: And let me play all the civil rights lea to
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: us in America because I'm a British passion. Yeah, yeah,
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: somehow closer to whiteness because of the accent.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: I'm still very Negro, like, very niggarly, but this accent.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Remember not the regular these regular kool Aids that you
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: got cool Aids in America calling.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Us kool aids. I'm surprised that's never been used against us.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: It should have been.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: It should have been because because when we raisis against
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: white people, we use like foods, like crackers. But I'm
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: surprised kool aid they never been used us. That one
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I missed opportunity. It would have hit kool aid pickles.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: In the community.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: It's too mucholid it is bad. Don't taste not good.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: It's not good. Yeah, it's not good enough.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: But have you ever made a picture of it? Absolutely?
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, good as koolid.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: To scheve it up brown kool aid. That's when you
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: combine a.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Lot of different colors, diabetes and a picture. Baby love
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: it so.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: A pigeon named Armando.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I love that so much. Armando the pigeon.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Armando the pigeon.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: He sold for one point four million dollars to a
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Chinese buyer at a Belgian auction. In twenty twenty, another
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: bird named new Cam sold for one point nine million
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: dollars to a Chinese billionaire, which.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Was whoa wait hit.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I've never fo pharmaceuticals. I've never felt so insignificant, knowing
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: that there's a bird that is worth one point four
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: million more dollars than I.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: Being on the auction block for nights like you next
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: to a bird they going for one point nine million.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Nobody want to buy.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Nobody want to buy me? How much for the nigga? What?
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: You got your wallet?
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: You got your wallet?
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Can you cut thirty seven dollars?
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Once, actually knock that down to thirty three, not
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: that down to thirty three dollars.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: That's upsetting.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: It's so mad.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So pigeon races and major Chinese cities became opulent
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: symbols of Chinese economic boom, with prizes over one hundred
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: million dollars for a single race, which is higher than
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: most of the walls of major sports.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: One hundred mil for a race.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: That's the prize. See, these are the pigeons that we know.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: These are depinsions that we know right there. That's too
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: many colors. That's too many colors on the pit.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: They gotta have sweag black people of birds that look
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: like a rat they're putting.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: That looked like that. See, like there are really beautiful
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: looking pigeons, but the pigeons that a city dwellers are
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: used to is this one right here, and like that
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: looks like he got like he looked like he got
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: dipped in some like chemicals. There's something that's why it's
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: all like when you got the shine on it, the green.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, but maybe they're getting taken very well care of.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Like if I pay over a million dollars for a pigeon,
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: that pigeon is like gonna get baths every day. I'm
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: gonna like put shame moisture on that pression.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: You're right, you know that pigeon, that pigeon lived better
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: than me, right, that that.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Pigeon lives better than most of us.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's crazy.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: So that's probably why it looks so cute. It's being
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: able to thrive. And that was our pigeon buyer right there.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: He's worth one point two six billion dollars.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: And that's why people don't need this much money, because
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: because you don't even need. Like I've always said that
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: hoarding is it's a significant sign of either your very
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: wealthy or you're very poor. Yeah, like poor people like
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: to hoard, and so to wealthy people. And it's for
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: different reasons, but it's also the same reason. It's like,
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: look at all this stuff that I have, Like, look
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: at it, you know what I mean of it?
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Mm hm.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: They get very specific and into like weird things like, oh,
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: I collect all of this Nazi member billion y'all come
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: over and look at this, Like.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: What I'm racing for one hundred million dollar pigeons?
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: He was, like, I spent almost two million dollars on
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: a goddamn bird to race, like, and.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: That's nothing to them. That's like me and you spending
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: fifty dollars on roach racing, which would be crazy.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Road traces would be crazy.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Honestly, I don't know which roach would win, because roach
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: deserve roach adept. They're fast as hell. They fast as hell,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: like honestly, way too fast.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Turn on the lights and boys, it'd be a million
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: and then you turn on the lights and three seconds
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: they all gone.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: When I learned that spiders like learn your habits and
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: activity when they're in your house.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't tell me that see a spider.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Like in your way, like outside, it's because you're doing
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: something that's off of your activity. That's it's off schedule, okay,
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: spider or your off schedule, because they come out when
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: you gone, I don't when you home.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: That's the way here, you're supposed to be out at work.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: You get fired again, you get a.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: God damn, I gotta learn a whole new schedule. Now
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: let me pull up my wib.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Old on.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: We're getting the funk up out of there. You're doing
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: it here. Let's go back, Let's go back to Lacey's house.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Lacey got a schedule. I was gonna call your mouth later,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: but now, damn, like now you ain't even gonna be
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: a sleep at one am, bushit. I was trying to
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: I was trying to get my homies here right, Yeah, I.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Got three cousins waiting outside. You're talking about you coming now?
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: God dam and don't eat that. Don't eat that chicken either.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: That chick was supposed to be. I'm being all up
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: in that chicken. Man, that's crazy. I hate I hate that.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: So I fuck with spiders a little bit. You fuck
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: with spiders because that's because you know their schedule. Yeah,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: ain't know yours.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Run So.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: One racing club south of Beijing kept its pigeons in
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: a castle that looks like Buckingham Palace.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Another, Tangshan Sunshine Pigeon.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Village, was a series of villas west of Beijing with
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: an indoor swimming pool and helicopter landing pad.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: These pigeons are living better.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: These pigeons living better than all of us.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Pigeon trainers had free housing for their families next to
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: the birds.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Yo to be a pigeon tra wrong ship this shit.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: I could have been the wife of a pigeon trainer.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: And apparently you ain't even got to train them that much.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: They already fly ninety miles an hour When I'm trying
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: to use like that way, what is the training? Crazy?
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine like them old school motherfuckers too, if
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: they came back to life now and be like, wait
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: a minute, the same shit I was doing for free,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: you not getting a million dollars for I would be mad.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: I would be mad too, mad.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: If I was an old school pigeon for sure.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: And even though like all of this sounds great, right,
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: it's worth noting that wildlife groups and rehabilitators are fundamentally
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: opposed to pigeon racing, arguing that the birds face in
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: humane challenges before, during, and after the events, which sometimes
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: span hundreds of miles and include extreme weather and predators.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Oh damn, bitches got predators.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: I mean they're not the apex, so somebody's trying to
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: snack on them.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Oh I don't know about bigger birds.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, bigger birds.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: I didn't know birds kill birds.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: I mean we eat birds, that's true, but you know birds.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Chicken is bird, but I ain't No birds kill birds.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Turkey is birds.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know we kill everything.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah we are preador.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we we are the most apex predator. But like
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: there's bird on bird crime. Yeah, there's a lot of
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: animal animal crime, which makes human own human crime like
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: make more sense sometimes.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, I want to go that far. I wouldn't go
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: that far.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: It makes nothing about it. Every other species killing each other.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, family annihilators makes sense.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Now, you know they say we gotta go there. I'm
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: just saying it'd be making it make more sense. Sometimes.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: This is the most Chicago sentence I ever heard. Okay,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: King Vaughan. No, we don't need to be doing the murders.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: I ain't saying murder. I'm just saying, you know what
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. If you go out, let me shut up,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Let me shut out. I got money to make you're trying.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: To qualify it.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: No, No, this is so.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: But picture racing still goes on right, and the fastest
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: birds with the best bloodlines have become international superstars. What
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: the famous than me? That's crazy, I want to I mean,
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: I worked with a monkey that was more famous than me,
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: and honestly, that monkey deserved it. That monkey is very
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, I forget the name with the monkey,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: but I've worked with that monkey a few times, and
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: people worked that monkey. That monkey was gonna hangover that
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: monkey monkey.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that I know that monkey. Yeah, that monkey is famous.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Although although I would be like, you could trick me though,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: you could just be like, yeah, this is that monkey,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: and I'll be like, Okay, yeah, I believe that because
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: the Crystal Capuchin.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Crystal Chris Christmas very famous.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Life. Monkeys do be living a long time, they do.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like Crystal was like Carly and she was like
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: drinking a beer and doing backflips.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Crystal drinking beer on We.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Had Crystal drinking beer on Paramount. But we definitely had
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: Crystal drinking beer.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Christmas very professional. I will say that I've worked with
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: the Sox. Hate that bitch.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Very unprofessional.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: But I worked with a pigeon.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: Though I've worked with I've worked with a raccoon. I've
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: worked with a lot of animals, but not a pigeon.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: A pigeon, Yeah, I do think they would be professional
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: because like Fast the Mona Lisa of the Pigeon World
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: was basically like a Belgian pigeon named Finn who had
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: won multiple national and provincial championships. His owner, Tom van
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Gaber considered Finn like a son.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Wait considered the bird like yeah, the.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Bird son, my bird son, and called him the Mona
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Lisa of the pigeon world. Tom got into pigeon breeding
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: after a soccer injury and a bad breakup, and he
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: found it therapeutic.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: He named one of his best pigeons after his ex girlfriend.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Damn, and now that pigeon making him not a pigeon
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: is his son or making him money.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: His said, look, look he hold it like my baby,
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: my baby.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: One of the comments of my little brother, you are
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: an example of determination, working, earty, and with a special
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: talent for pigeons.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: With a special talent for pigeons.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that means.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Would I wouldn't even know how to write those words together.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Bitches get pigeons.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Also, somebody has a thing that just says gun show
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: and that makes no sense at all for what we're
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: looking at. It makes no sense.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Honestly, I want the male in soul community to shift
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: to this direction, like, yes, you hate women, get a
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: pigeon feels better than like being that's slogan.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: You hate women, get a picture and a pigeon. That's
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: a slogan for your ass. Right there. I'm with it, damn.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: And then apparently you can become a millionaire.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Exactly, like get involved.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: I do think that you already have to have money
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: to It's like competitions.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: You gotta already have.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Already have money to douse otherwise, like you know, New
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: York City pigeons. That's what I was about to say.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: If black people got into this, we would just go
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: on the street. We would just started catching pigeons on
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: the streets, and then it would be like the NBA,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: like when black people got in or when Jackie Robinson
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: brought the color beard. If you started getting some nigga
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: pigeons in there, boy, they really like we thought these
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: pincheons were fast, but these black pigeons are. God damn
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: they are the flash.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: You trained them with hot cheetos. I got attacking on
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: the west side. Go get that tacking and bring it back.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Go get that, go get that taki damn pigeon.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Influencer Maggie Lu connected Chinese billionaires with the Belgian pigeons
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: they wanted to buy. She tried to broke her a
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: deal for her clients to buy finn in twenty nineteen.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: The Chinese buyers throughout large sums they offered to negotiate higher,
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: but Tom insisted Finn was not for sale.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: That's his son, my son.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: That's his son. That's a son named after's ax.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: He turned the buyers away, but offered to sell them
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: Finn's offspring, which he sold for several thousand dollars per chick.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Tom bought.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: So, Finn is a woman, Finn is a woman. Finn.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: He got this woman working for him, making him money. Mad.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: He got a lady slave.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: He got a lady slave and.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Named it after his girlfriend.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: I can't, I can't, I'm mad. What's this? What's this
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: person's name? I don't know? Tom?
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Tom Old Tom asked, looking, motherfucker, he.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Looked just like a Tom God, damn Tom.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: He turned the buyers away, but offered to sell them
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: the offspring right, and he hung a billboard sized photo
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: of Finn on his wall. He started a business called
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: TVG Pigeons with the tagline let your dreams of winning
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: take flight. Then the Chinese buyers disappeared.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Wait they disappeared, Yeah, okay, I mean he wasn't gonna
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: sell Finn right.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: He was like, y'all can have Finn, baby. They were like,
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: we want Finn.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: We don't want Finn, which means he was did them too.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I ain't never seen a baby picchion do that? Have
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: you ever seen a baby pitcheon before? I've never seen
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: a baby picton.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: They're always always a dog bird. I've never seen a
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: baby Morgan Freeman.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Nobody, nobody's seen. And then if you have seen it,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: it looked like it's from nineteen thirty two, right, Like,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: what that's a baby pigeon.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: That's why the pictures breede making a please like pushing
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: them together.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: What do you do? What? Yeah, I just I didn't
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: even know pigeons like knocked boots. I just thought they
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: just like I just thought they just thought they had
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: like egg I thought.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Is that them knocking boots? Is that a pigeon on
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: a picture?
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: That's that looks like a that's a I guess what
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: a baby pigeon look like.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: I guess that's the wing.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, pigeons on the baby pigeon by look ugliest, ugliest,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: it's like.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: What looks like a nightmare, Like, well.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: That's why we don't see that's why we don't see
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: baby pictures because the pigeon mama's no Like if you
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: go out in the street you can get.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: They stand in the nest until they get cute.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: You got.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: What do y'all look like?
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: God, damn god, Oh this is nightmare fuel.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Y'all don't actually want to see a baby pigeon. They
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: look terrible.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Look they don't look right. They don't look right.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: By twenty twenty three, Chinese leader chi Jing Ping began
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: cracking down on conspicuous displays of wealth and gambling, including
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: pigeon racing. The China Racing Pigeon Association be can't like.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: They began suspending races and the sport went underground. No
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: more Chinese businessmen boasting about purchasing million dollar pigeons. Now
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: anyone who wanted Belgian racing pigeons would need to import
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: them illegally. That's when the thefts began.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: When it started so.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: In November of twenty twenty four, two masked men cut
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: through Tom's neighbor's fence and snuck towards his house.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: They climbed onto his pigeon loft, because of course you
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: gotta have a pigeon loft. They cut a hole in
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: the roof and descend it inside.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: This is like oceans, like, oh yeah, oh, so can
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: I ask the question, what.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Year is this, twenty twenty four?
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, this is recent because there's this this is crazy.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: There's a storyline in the Spider Man games where somebody
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: has pigeons and somebody's stealing the pigeons and they do
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: that shit they like cut the hole in like little
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: pigeon hole and shit, and then like Spider Man has
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: to go find the pigeons. Like it's the I hate it.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: It's the hardest, one of the hardest things, because you're
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: swinging through goddamn New York trying to web up flying pitcheon.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: That's crazy thing. This is where they got it. They
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: got it from Spider Man.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: A third man waited in a getaway car.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: You need three people.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Listen.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: They're doing a they're doing a heist. The pigeon heightst
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: This wild operation. Cool. Yes, So, according to security camera footage,
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: thieves inspected each pigeon. They weren't taking any birds, only
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: specific ones. They stuffed them in bags, wings flapping.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: This is wild because you don't even know if these
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: pigeons are good.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: They only get in the good ones.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: They only get in the good ones. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: so this is footage right here. Yes, let's shut a
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: little and even removing hedge plants to reach the breeding lot.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: In an audacious move, they entered the loft through the roof.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Audacious move. Damn, that's fan right there. That looked like
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: a New York Chicago pigeon.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: Right Like, why can't yall just train up the New
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: York pigeons now everywhere?
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Why y'all up, you're stealing people's pigeons. Man.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: In Belgium and the Netherlands in twenty twenty four and
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, dozens of pigeon locks were rated the
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: same way and hundreds of pigeons were taken.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: That's too many pigeons and captivity. These are they slaves again?
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Slaves again?
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: And Luke Vervorty his dog woke up as pigeon thieves
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: got away with fourteen birds, dropping wirecutters on the way.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: A seven ninety year old retired carpenter name did Joe's Cool.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Uh huh, Joe's cool, Joe's cools. Okay, that's a nice times.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe's cools.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: It's giving y'all changed all last name from something embarrassing.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Y'all family did something and y'all were like let's become
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: the cool the cools.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: It's like, how Cruz last name or not Cruise. Jennifer
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Anderson's last name is like Galgadol last name.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Not that they changed, they changed it.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: They changed.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: And here's him looking happy with a bird that looks
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: like he's smothering the bird.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: I know may be holding the birds next right. Like see,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: that's the thing about pigeons, man, They got a little
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: heft to him. You got to hold him with two hands.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: I had a bird once named Phoebe. You did.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Was it a two hand bird? Yes? And like Phoebe.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: I took her outside to get washed with my cousin.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Once she kind of washed, like she was thinking.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Of my wash. She was speaking of my room. She
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: needed to get washed.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: And I didn't know you were supposed to clip bird's
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: wings so they can't fly away.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Was wrong, Yeah, that's that's.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: Giving bird slavery. So we washed her up and then
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: her ass flew away. She was like, I'm free. She
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: was back into captivity. She flew to my friend face
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: house across the streets, and Faith already had birds, and
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, Faith, do you want to just
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: have Phoebe?
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Here's all her bird feet. I don't want her or anyway.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Here's wanted friends. Phoe Be wanting to get down.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: I was like, here, she gonna have some friends over here.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: Here's her birth feet, here's her cage. I want that
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: stinky ass bitch out of my home.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: She ain't want to be free, She just wanted more slaves.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: She wanted to be the overseer wanted to be a house.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: She wanted to be a house.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: It was not an ethical bird fuck Phoebe. That bitch
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: probably still alive.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Living.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Ah my goddamn relative.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: God damn.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: So the high school teacher Luke Odours lost thirty two
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: pigeons in January, including a winner of the prestigious International
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Barcelona Race, one of the Europe's like biggest pigeon racing events.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: So he lost all his bad bitches. They all were stolen.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I'm flabbergasted, Lacy, did you before you found this scam
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: and read up on it and learned about it, did
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: you even know this was a thing?
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: I did because we had a similar scam in Canada. Okay,
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: so I knew pigeons were a thing, and then through
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: Mike Tyson, I learned more about pigs.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, I knew people like kept some I knew
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: some people kept pigeons as pets. I had no there's
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: a Barcelona official pigeon race.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: People will been on anything, and rich people they don't.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Got nothing to do with the money.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: You sold pigeons, why not wild? The Belgian Pigeon Financiers
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: Association they've organized, counted at least fourteen thefts, but they
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: knew they were they were like likely more thefts. They
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: estimated the bird's total value at two point five million euros,
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: which is stronger than the dollar one point two one
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: to us.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: They called it a crisis.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: The popular blog Pigeon Boss, you know, pigeon Boss, Peon Boss.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Every day, pigeon Boss, they said.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: The pigeon mafia seems relentless. These organized gangs don't see
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: our beloved sport as a passion, but.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: As a business.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: They target top pigeons that can be sold for astronomical
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: sums of money.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Uh huh No, I just saw I just saw a
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: black picture of a picture with a bunch of black folks.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Is that what was going on? They doing it in
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: West Africa too, damn damn. So it didn't get it
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: came on us. Yes, global, it's global now because at
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: first I'd only seen it with white folk and Asian folks,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: so I'm like, you know, but that makes sense. Yeah,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: but they didn't got the black folks.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Too, everybody getting in on them.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Goddamn, sad, god, damn.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: In March of twenty twenty five, Belgium organized crime investigators
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: finally made one arrest of a Romanian man named Doro
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: low Eca. Doro was living in Belgium with his wife
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: and five kids, and with about seventy of his own
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: racing pigeons, which had never won anything.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Here's something I'm realizing too, because you keep, you keep
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: throwing out pigeon numbers, and they all like everybody got
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: a lot of pigeons, which means like the success rate
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: must be low.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: It is sad rate the market is said, because you know.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Most people who like race horses, you only got, right,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: like a couple horses, maybe maybe five at the most
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: in your stable. These niggas got fifty pigeons, Your pigeons
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: seventy pits, Like, how many pigeons do you need to
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: find the one that's gonna win you?
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: And having five kids is diabolical, that's diabolical.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Kids and seventy pigeons.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: You for real with your life, there's too much. There's
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: too much and it ain't even wear nothing. You just
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: taking care of you, just taking care of pigeons.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: House covered in pigeon poop because.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: They be shitting, may be shipped ten and that they're smart.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: Because one time in my life I was pooped on
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: by a pigeon. Yeah, I was trying to be funny.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: I was at like like, uh, in Texas, we would
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: do this thing where we would have this like over
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: weekened vacation in the woods in cabins, and I thought
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: it was cute to like start saying curse words and
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: I was like, fuck you birds, like up to the birds.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: And I was wearing glasses at the time. Pigeon dum
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: pooped directly on my glasses.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was talking shittim.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: They broke and I was like, you know what, this
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: is what I deserved.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: They made that metal week that was a homing pigeon.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: They honed right in.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Writing on my black ass.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: Also, as an adult now, I realized that most of
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: my teachers at that stayaway.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: Camp were probably drunk.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: We had like an Easter egg like it was like
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: a like a scavenger hunt, and then all the teachers
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: had to be posted up at the next spot that
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: we litus fu.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure, that's why I should never do no ship
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: like that, because I know if I got a by
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: at the end of the night when all the kids sleep,
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: if I'm with some other adults, we getting lit. We
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: getting lit. We're doing everything. We're doing drugs.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: They was definitely dr and I was like thinking, like
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: that is such a good mood and giggling.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: They was. I'll never forget third grade, third grade Missile Tour.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Missile Tour was my third grade teacher. I'll never forget.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: She came to school one day and she she was
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: always mean too, but this day she had a headache.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: She was just head down. And then like in the
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: middle of the day she was just like, I need
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: to tell you guys. You guys were getting to the
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: age where you need deodorant. You need deodorant. You gotta
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: start putting on deodorant. And like at this one, I'm
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: just like, what's wrong with Missile Touring? Now I realized
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: she was hungover as hell because she was sensitive to smell.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: She was missle Tooy got Miss ole tour got shut
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: the fuck up and shower shower because y'all.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: Right, y'all, ripe is here, smell.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: I can't take this ship no more.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: And I wish we had more parents and teachers like that,
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: because listen, my mom would threaten me with violence if
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: I came home smelling ripe, Like don't you have like
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: you check me after I got out the bath, Like
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: that's what you're supposed to do with your kids.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Like why are you letting.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Them smell good? Let learn them, learn them because.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: Like, as a community, smelling bad is violence, and like,
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: why would you come in here smelling like that when
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: we all here get it? You're a pun and let
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: me keep your ass go and let me let me
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: tell you, let me say, let me take it a
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: step further.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: And this may offend some people. Your natural deodorant ain't working.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Get you some aluminum.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: I know everybody was like, the deodor ain't give us cancer. Look,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: that's a risk you're gonna have to take. Put the
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: nickel back in your.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: Put the nickel back wrapped right up under your arm.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: That ship, we need it.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: The natural ain't working.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: It ain't working.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Ain't working.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: And so.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: With a search warrant offers to sound a secret second
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: coup of seventeen stolen pigeons in door rous backyard.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: This man stole so many pigeons he had to have
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: a secret room.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: Also, pitchs are loud, like this is not something that
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: you can hide from the cops.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: To be like.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: Hill.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: The fans are here working with Romanian authorities. They figured
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: out that Dorou had been part of the international theft
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: ring and was sending stolen birds back to his parents
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: and extended family in Romania to care for before presumably
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: either selling them on the black market or breeding them
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: the black pigeon market.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Child, I don't even know that, No.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: That existed Indoru's niece's car. Now, why you got to
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: bring the niece know that's that's wrong. Police found dozens
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: of pigeons, including two of Fenn's grandchildren. Birds himself has
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: not been recovered.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: He never heard no fund animal children.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: I didn't know there was a pigeon diaster.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: I've never heard an animal with a grandchild.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: And grandchildren grandchildren's.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: Oh that's so fun.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: And also they talked to twenty three and me grandchildren.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: This is wild, wild as hell.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: Finn himself has never been recovered, and only three human
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: arrests have been made so far. Now you're saying human
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: arrests are y'all doing pigeon arresting the pigeons.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Of it, because the pigeons probably in on it too.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: Now we gotta blame the pigeons.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: We gotta blame the pigeons, just like gain, you gotta
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: be all the flame can be laid at one foot.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: No get, we gotta blame y'all pigeons.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: We gotta blame. We got a little blame to go.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: Hundreds of birds are still missing, and high stakes pigeon
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: thefts have continued this year. In April, nine racing pigeons
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: were stolen in eastern Germany. In August, three birds were
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: like that were worth nearly two hundred thousand dollars were
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: stolen in southern Spain. Many of the recovered birds have
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: still not been matched to their owners, most likely because
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: they were taking the thefts that were not even reported
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: to the police. Pretty soon, the only way to reunite
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: the stolen birds with their owners will be opening the
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: cages and hoping they remember to fly home.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: This is such a big world, and so much shit
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: happens inside of that.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: They're just doing anything.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: I would like people aren't doing we're doing anything. There
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: are people doing any and everything. This is insane. This
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: is the craziest thing I've ever heard heard. I had
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: no idea.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: The grand pigeons are recovered, but not the grandfather pigeon.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: The grand pigeons, the grand pigeons, the great grand pigeons,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: it's a whole lineage. I definitely look at pigeons a
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: little different because they do be. When you see a pigeon,
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: you usually see a few of them. And then like
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: sometimes we like I lived to Chicago and we have
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: the l the elevated train tracks, and they be under them, motherfuckers.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: And then when they like the train comes out all
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: dispersed and it'd be like fifty of the motherfuckers, Like
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: this person, Now I get it. They all because they
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: be familied up.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: They were just having a little family reunion under the train.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: They really are black, they really are. They got cousins,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: everybody at the crib. They be having cookouts.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: They can fly fast, can fly well, renowned for our race.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: I know they got Hussein boat usin pigeons. This is
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: wild there. People have entirely too much money, too much money,
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: and because you're wasting like you're using your money on birds,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: and and you not being serious, do not being And
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: there are people who like, I want to learn how
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: to train a bird to race? That what a if
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: you we don't have kids. I don't have any that
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: I know of, at least like and.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: I can confident you can say you.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Don't have any children. I am almost certain I don't
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: have any children. But like, if my kid ever came
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: up to me like that, and I'm very much in
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: the mind my kid can be anything they want to
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: be anything they came up I want to be a
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: pigeon trainer racer. I'm like, oh cool, you want to
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: be like a vet. Like, no, I want to train pigeons.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: How I want to be asked from Pokemon, But for pigeons,
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: I would be like, yo, you can't.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Just straight up we gotta stomp out your sorry. You
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: could be president a pigeon trainer.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: You can digger. No, absolutely, you gotta try, you gotta
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: go somewhere, you gotta do something else.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: I'm on the same page.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: I truly don't understand what the fuck these people were
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: doing or how they're doing it. I mean, I want
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: to feel bad for y'all forgetting y'all birds rob, but
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: I honestly.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Don't all Like, I don't. There's not a single iota
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: part of me that feels bad about No.
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: It's gonna pay one point nine million dollars for a
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: goddamn bird.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: You just get.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: You deserve it.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: I think Phoebe was free, Yeah, bitch ass.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Phoebe was free. Phoebe was free, and she didn't
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: want to be. She wanted, she didn't want to be,
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: but she was. She was free.
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: Listen, threw away. I had a great sigh of relief.
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: I was like, because she was thinking of my room.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: I didn't know birds stink. I didn't know birds. I mean,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: I guess stink and they be pooping stink.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like, what am I doing?
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah? And they not outside because that's why
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: birds probably you don't smell because they just outside. But
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: in the house.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: And their funky is hell.
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: If I see somebody who got multiple pitts, I'm like,
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: I know it smelled crazy in there.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: I know it does.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Like, there's no way it does not.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: It can smell fine in the house. You just gotta clean,
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: gotta clean. Got clean every day.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like extra cleaning that you gotta do now.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: So I get also when I still do. But I
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: also have like good air purifiers in every room in
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: my house as well. The air is and cleaned constantly.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: You can have a clean, not terrible smelling health.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: You can. You cannot be dedicated.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: You gotta be dedicated. But you gotta be dedicated. You
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: gotta be dedicating.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: Oh well, that.
• 1:00:11
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• 1:00:13
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