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Israeli ambassador to the U.N. says in the long run, we have no intention to stay in Lebanon · DEEP INSIGHT

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  Speaker 1: It, Israeli Ambassador of the United Nations, Danny Danone joins me. Now,
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  Speaker 1: it's ambassador. It's great to have you on the program.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you can say or if you know,
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  Speaker 1: but let me just ask you. Do you have any
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  Speaker 1: knowledge of whether Israeli defense forces are participating actively in
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  Speaker 1: the second round of US strikes against Iranian targets.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me a major You know, I
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  Speaker 2: cannot confirm any participation of itwel we fall together with
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  Speaker 2: the US, and if we need to have it again,
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  Speaker 2: we will be there. We will be ready to retaliate
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  Speaker 2: if we will be attacked. But at that moment we
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  Speaker 2: count on leadership of pretent Trump on the situation.
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  Speaker 3: But we are following very comforfull to this situation.
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  Speaker 1: I said today, and I raised this with our correspondent
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  Speaker 1: at o'keef, that he thought it might be possible that
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  Speaker 1: Israeli forces will soon withdraw from southern Lebanon. I've watched
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  Speaker 1: very closely the interviews that the Prime Minister has given.
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  Speaker 1: He's given no indication of that. Is there a disconnect?
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  Speaker 3: There? Absolutely not.
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  Speaker 2: The great communication in the five minutes I spoke with
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  Speaker 2: the and we are coordinating our efforts, and we are
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  Speaker 2: grateful for the mediation between Lebanon and Israel. And I
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  Speaker 2: want to remind you Major we signed a historic framework
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  Speaker 2: agreement with the Lebanese government and we intend to implement
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  Speaker 2: this agreement. The timeline is not about dates, it's about
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  Speaker 2: the capabilities of the Lebanese military to mobilize their forces
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  Speaker 2: to area that we will dep out and basically making
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  Speaker 2: sure He's Bala is not coming back to southern Lebanon in.
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  Speaker 3: The long run.
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  Speaker 2: We have no intention to stay in Lebanon. We want
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  Speaker 2: to see the Lebanese military there and not his Balam,
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  Speaker 2: and I hope it will happen. We heal very good
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  Speaker 2: voices coming from Bewood, but now we have to see
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  Speaker 2: the implementation if they are actually capable of delivering.
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  Speaker 1: As you know, Western Ambassador, that's always been the difficulty,
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  Speaker 1: or the primary difficulty, the inability of the Lebanese government
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  Speaker 1: and its military to take on Hasbalah and to reject
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  Speaker 1: them from southern Lebanon. That seems to be the stacking
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  Speaker 1: point now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but now the difference.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we pushed his ballad from those locations, so
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  Speaker 2: basically they don't have to fight his Ballab.
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  Speaker 3: We did the hard work, but they will.
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  Speaker 2: Have to come and take the positions that we are
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  Speaker 2: gradually will evacuate.
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  Speaker 3: So it will be a gradual process.
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  Speaker 2: We will verify that actually capable of doing that, because
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  Speaker 2: the last thing we want to see is his Balla
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  Speaker 2: coming back to the border, you know, threatening our citizens again.
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  Speaker 2: We don't want to be back where we were. A
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  Speaker 2: few months ago.
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  Speaker 1: Mister bassador explained to me at my audience how it
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  Speaker 1: would be that Israel would withdraw from the security perimeter
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  Speaker 1: it is established inside Lebanon. What are the conditions in
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  Speaker 1: which that would begin to happen, So, you know.
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  Speaker 2: For the long term, the vision for US is to
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  Speaker 2: see the Lebanese military deployed on the border. You know,
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  Speaker 2: if you look at the border between Israel and Egypt today,
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  Speaker 2: we have the Egyptian military and we coordinate, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the movements and we coordinate everything with the there same
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  Speaker 2: with the Jodaniels on our eastern border. So that's the
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  Speaker 2: ideally what will happen. We don't want to see UNIFIL
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  Speaker 2: UN forces. You know a heal voices now of some
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  Speaker 2: of the European country that they want to send troops
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  Speaker 2: to the region.
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  Speaker 3: We don't want them and we don't need them.
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  Speaker 2: We want to deal directly with the Lebanese government, with
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  Speaker 2: the Lebanese military, and they should make sure that there
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  Speaker 2: is one military, one government, and they inforce the sovereignty
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  Speaker 2: of Lebanon.
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  Speaker 3: Over the southern Lebanon.
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  Speaker 2: So once they are able to mobilize take the positions,
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  Speaker 2: we gradually we will start to deploy our forces back
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  Speaker 2: to Israel, but we will verify that they're actually bringing
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  Speaker 2: the troops and not allowing Isabella to go back.
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  Speaker 1: Eastern Ambassador Ram Emmanuel, who's well known to Americans lots
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  Speaker 1: of different political roles in our country, chief staff to
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  Speaker 1: the President of United States, Mayor of Chicago, ambassador in Japan,
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  Speaker 1: gave a speech as you know today at the University
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  Speaker 1: of Tel Aviv, very critical. This is really Prime Minister
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  Speaker 1: Benjamin Niyahu. I want to play you with sound bite
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  Speaker 1: from that and get your reaction, please, sir.
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  Speaker 4: Unconditional support has produced a prime minister who has presumed
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  Speaker 4: that his strategic interests would incur the political would occur
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  Speaker 4: no political costs if he ignored America's concerns about settlements
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  Speaker 4: and sparked a regional war. Unconditional support has allowed you
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  Speaker 4: to deny food and medical relief to innocent Palestinians.
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  Speaker 1: Mister Ambassador ram Emmanuel also said in that speech that
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  Speaker 1: Israel has become a pariah and has lost all support
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  Speaker 1: in Europe and has lost domestic political support in America.
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  Speaker 1: I'd like you to evaluate what you heard from Ramamanuel.
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  Speaker 2: You know, with all due respect, I know I'm very well,
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  Speaker 2: and I can tell you one thing. You know, we
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  Speaker 2: share the same values and we have the value of
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  Speaker 2: democracy and freedom. These valley people elected Prime Minter Metanille
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  Speaker 2: again and again to lead the nation, and they know
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  Speaker 2: what they are doing. So we have elections coming up
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  Speaker 2: in October, will go to vote again and it's up
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  Speaker 2: to them to decide were the best.
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  Speaker 3: Leader for is Weel, not for mim Manuel, and not
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  Speaker 3: for anyone else.
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  Speaker 2: It's for the people of Iswel to choose the leadership.
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  Speaker 2: They would decide if they want to support NATANIAO or not.
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  Speaker 2: And I think everyone that come to Iswel and enjoy
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  Speaker 2: the bocos to be built should realize that that's part
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  Speaker 2: of democracy, free elections. We're electing our own leaders ourselves.
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  Speaker 1: Also want to ask you, mister ambassador about something that
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  Speaker 1: ram Emanuel said in his speech, kind of an over
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  Speaker 1: the horizon perspective. No longer as two stage solutions, but
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  Speaker 1: she said, is losing dramatically political support in the region.
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  Speaker 1: But what do you called a twenty three state solution
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  Speaker 1: all the Arab League nations and then a Palestinian state
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  Speaker 1: and Israeli state, everyone interlocked economically, culturally. He said, that
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  Speaker 1: would change the policy, change the politics, change the region.
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  Speaker 1: Any thoughts on that, Well.
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  Speaker 2: It's a nice slogan, but practically speaking, you know, after
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  Speaker 2: October seventh, you know, we realize.
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  Speaker 3: That we have Hamas radicals on.
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  Speaker 2: Our border, and we saw what we did to our
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  Speaker 2: people in the communities on October seventh, so you know,
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  Speaker 2: we are a peaceful nation. We want to nominate relationship
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  Speaker 2: with all the Arab countries in the vision. We are
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  Speaker 2: successful with some of them, hopefully we'll see more joining
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  Speaker 2: the abraham A courds. But practically speaking, you have two
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  Speaker 2: forces in the Middle East, the radicals and the moderate.
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  Speaker 3: With the moderate we can speak about everything.
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  Speaker 2: With the radicals like Hamas riz Bala, you know Islamic jihad,
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  Speaker 2: we have to fight them, there's no other choice. So
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  Speaker 2: it can be optimistic about the Middle East, but you
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  Speaker 2: have to face reality and make the distinction between the
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  Speaker 2: evil forces of radical Islam and the moderate voices of
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  Speaker 2: Islam that we we welcome and we hope to move forward.
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  Speaker 1: With them pretty quickly. Mister ambassador, how do you evaluate
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  Speaker 1: the speed and likelihood of a disarmed Hamas in Gaza?
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  Speaker 3: So pretherand Trump plan was very clear. There is future
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  Speaker 3: for Gada only after this disarmament of Hamas.
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  Speaker 2: If Ramas will stay there, there will be no future
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  Speaker 2: in Gada, regardless of the amount of money that can
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  Speaker 2: beout willing to invest there. So we are still waiting
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  Speaker 2: to see whether they will do it voluntarily, and if not,
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  Speaker 2: we will have to force them to disarm. We will
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  Speaker 2: not allow Hamas to stay in power in Gaza. And
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  Speaker 2: it's not only for our sequality. It talks about the
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  Speaker 2: future of the people in Gaza. They will not prosper
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  Speaker 2: if Hamas will stay without suffering under the occupation of
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  Speaker 2: Haramas in Gaza. Not the Israeli occupation, the Hamas occupation
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  Speaker 2: of Gaza.
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  Speaker 1: It's really Ambassador to the United Nations, Dandy Donone. I
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  Speaker 1: appreciate the time, mister ambassador, Thank you, Thank you major