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The Lost Technology of the Mayan Gods | Timothy Hogan & Billy Carson | TONIGHT · 4biddenknowledge Podcast

• 1:04
  SPEAKER_02: All right, what's going on?
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  SPEAKER_02: It's Billy Carson, aka Forbidden Knowledge.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_02: Welcome to this amazing Forbidden Knowledge podcast.
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  SPEAKER_02: Today we're going to be talking about the technology, the lost technology of the Maya.
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  SPEAKER_02: And what is it all about?
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  SPEAKER_02: And I have a very, very special guest tonight that has some amazing insight on this information.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_02: We're going to be talking about what if the pyramids of ancient Mexico were not just merely temples, but actual components of technology.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_02: Technology that maybe, just maybe, we still don't understand today.
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  SPEAKER_02: Deep beneath the temple of the feathered serpent at Teotihuacan, archaeologists entered a tunnel that had been deliberately sealed for nearly 2,000 years.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_02: And inside they discovered a symbolic underground cosmos, walls and ceilings made to sparkle with reflective materials and minerals, mysterious green stone figures, pyrite mirrors, and even liquid mercury placed into small cavities like a little shimmering lake with a little miniature landscape.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_02: Hmm, interesting because we know that mercury is so toxic.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_02: Why would they spend so much energy storing mercury in that way?
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  SPEAKER_02: We'll touch on that tonight as well.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then above that subterranean world stood one of the most precisely planned cities in the ancient Americas.
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  SPEAKER_02: Its builders redirected a river, organized enormous monuments along a geometric grid, and oriented major structures toward an astronomically significant solar date.
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  SPEAKER_02: UNESCO describes Teotihuacan's design as being based on geometric principles and cosmic harmony.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_02: And that's a long stretch for UNESCO to go.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_02: They don't like to get too deep into the esoteric.
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  SPEAKER_02: What if that cosmic harmony went even deeper?
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  SPEAKER_02: Some researchers ask whether the pyramids of the sun and the moon and the feathered serpent were intended to mirror Orion or whether the city itself represented a map of the heavens brought down to Earth, as above saw below.
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  SPEAKER_02: The specific Orion correlation remains a hypothesis, while the evidence is there when you look at Giza in Africa.
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  SPEAKER_02: We begin to see the connection between Giza Plateau in Cairo and Teotihuacan in Mexico City.
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  SPEAKER_02: And this is where the mystery crosses the oceans.
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  SPEAKER_02: In the Hermetic tradition, associated with Thoth, and of course, also Hermes, Trismegestus, the Emerald Tablet describes a universe in which the world above and the world below reflect one another.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_02: The historical texts known as the Emerald Tablets appear in medieval Arabic sources and also in other sources as well.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now, it survives from pharaonic Egypt, but its central principle became one of the most influential ideas in alchemy.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_02: Heaven, earth, matter, and consciousness operating as parts of one unified system.
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  SPEAKER_02: When you insert the human being, you have the fifth element.
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  SPEAKER_02: So where the green stones are, where are they?
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  SPEAKER_02: Where'd they go?
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_02: We're going to talk about that tonight.
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  SPEAKER_02: Tirtuacon is not just a ritual location or ritual place, and we're going to also talk about why the Mercury has been buried beneath those pyramids and what its possible purpose was.
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  SPEAKER_02: Were the pyramids designed to only honor the gods, or were they built to reproduce the forces attributed to them?
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  SPEAKER_02: So tonight with Timothy Hogan, we investigate the lost technology of the Mesoamerican gods, and we ask a question that can completely transform our understanding of the ancient world.
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  SPEAKER_02: So without further ado, let me bring up my very good friend and co-host of tonight's podcast, Timothy Hogan.
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  SPEAKER_02: Hey Timothy.
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  SPEAKER_02: How are you?
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  SPEAKER_02: All right, great, man.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_02: Great.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_02: Glad to have you on here.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_02: This is a great topic, and I got the right man for the job.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_00: Well, uh, it's it's an important topic, you know.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_00: I think what you're what you're suggesting is uh you know changes all kinds of perspectives of who the Mayans were, what they were connected with, uh what they were really about, and what were these monuments?
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so some people think that uh the Mayans inherited some of the monuments, other people think that the Mayans built them, and that's still up for some debate depending on the area that you go, but um uh the uh one thing that we know is that these pyramids, these structures, were built according to the um cosmology of the uh that the Mayans had, and uh what they suggested is that all reality kind of manifested out of a tree, like a tree of life, and on that tree were 22 branches representing uh 22 aspects of nature and gods and and uh the universe and such.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and this and then these were connected to their ten main deities, and uh of which the the their chief deity was known as I Iodl.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it's like I A O T L.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and uh and Iwatl was usually represented symbolically by a squared circle uh and then a spiral coming out of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh uh that was the traditional uh yeah depiction of him, but uh but under this was other lesser deities that had real importance, like Quetzakotal, who was uh you know also known as Viracoka, and was uh uh the the the plume serpent god, uh this this uniting of this the this the snake of the ground and the birds of the heavens, you know, the as above, so below, you know, uniting and making him the plumed serpent god.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, um yeah, it's really interesting.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_02: You think it's something that I want to go right into because we see here um you know, an a Mayan god riding in, flying in on this flying dragon, and we see in Egypt we see an Egyptian god flying in on this uh on this flying serpent, right?
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, that's right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, flying through the heavens.
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  SPEAKER_00: The same is the same idea, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's so amazing how we can see these correlations between all these different cultures all around the world, and so what it makes me feel like is that these Maya and the Teotihuacans and that civilization in Mesoamerica, all throughout Titsinitsa and everything else in the Yucatan Peninsula were somehow interconnected globally.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_02: What are your thoughts on that?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, I think there's a lot of things that connect them.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, another symbol that you find in Egypt over the doorways is the is the solar disc with that's winged, but the with the serpents coming out of it.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_00: You know, so again, there's a mix of the you know, the it's the flying serpent, you know, idea, you know.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_00: So um uh so these are uh the they're suggestive that there was uh a connection there.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um you know another thing that's really significant from both the Egyptian and the uh Mayan uh traditions, they both say that they had come from a pre-civilization that has was destroyed in cataclysm, and that they had escaped in boats, and the Egyptians settled in the Nile Valley, and the um the Mayans settled in the Yucatan, but both had the same uh uh cosmology, and um the Mayan name for this place was Otzlan, and the Egyptian name for this place was Utlant, but Utlant, Atslant, uh very similar sounding, and uh and and probably both that's probably the origin of where Solon uh learned of the story of Atlantis that Plato talks about, you know.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Solon is a great, great poet.
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  SPEAKER_02: His his works are just incredible, right?
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_00: So the fact that uh you know you have at Atlantis, Atlant, Utland, you know, I mean it's it's all the same thing, so it's gotta be in uh the same you know origin story.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_02: So right, exactly.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now we know from what we've studied, at least we can hypothesize from what we've read and studied, that it seems as if Atlantis was a highly advanced technological civilization, and if they did have this influence over the rest of the world and and and and that Atlantis became a global civilization with many different capitals, as you can see, this image I had up here.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_02: These this resembles to me in my in my mind's eye, this these resemble technology of some sort, some type of lost technology, some type of potential flying device.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_02: And we can even see that they've got that that bag in their hands, or they think they're holding on to something.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_00: The handbag, yeah.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_00: You find that uh all over the world, um, associated with gods, or you know, of one one kind or another.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, probably the seeds of civilization, you know.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, the uh the these um certainly these serpents are some sort of a traveling device, you know, and uh and uh the the Maya figure looks like he's wearing uh some sort of a helmet, almost like a space helmet.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um and of course the Egyptian one uh it literally shows them flying through the the stars, you know, flying space, you know, so it's um in myth mythological texts, uh ocean and space are you know kind of substituted for each other, you know, with the idea that space is like a big ocean, you know, and uh right, but uh yep, there's uh definitely that relation there.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, no doubt.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_02: It's just there's so many references to uh and artifacts that kind of resemble or reference what could be potential technology.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_02: Why do you think the mainstream has um labeled all of it mythology?
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I think there's uh there's probably an understanding on some uh control or government level that uh that uh if we acknowledge that humanity almost got wiped out, you know, uh 12,500 years ago.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um there's a possibility it could get wiped out again, and uh that's bad for business.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I mean it's bad PR, I guess.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_00: Uh that's the only thing I can figure.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, uh because the evidence is there that there was a cataclysm.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_00: There's also the evidence that uh through you know, drill marks and uh saw marks and granite and uh yeah just the the size and and precision of of uh uh creating some of these monuments that that we find in Egypt.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_00: Uh they they suggest a very advanced uh civilization to who who did it.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_00: And uh uh as as advanced as the Egyptians were, uh there's almost a we see a devolution uh rather than uh an evolution of technology.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's like it started out super advanced at the beginning, and uh by the time uh Julius Caesar was invading, you know, and Cleopatra had to had to give up Egypt, uh, it was it didn't have the same level of of technology anymore, you know.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_02: So right, exactly.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but sure.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_02: You can see that when I go, you know, when we go to Egypt, we see the further back we go in time, we see megalithic single-piece diorite statues, crystal diorite, crystal granite, single piece columns, right, right massive.
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  SPEAKER_02: But as you go forward in time into the dynastic era, they start becoming cut megalithic blocks, but they're stacked on top of each other, yeah, you know, multiple pieces put together like a puzzle.
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  SPEAKER_02: In other words, the knowledge of how to do the single pieces had been lost the further you come forward in time, right?
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_00: That's true, yeah.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_00: That's true.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, and some of those you mean, some of those granite statues, you know, are made with such precision, too.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_00: And uh uh, you know, for uh a civilization that uh was only said to have copper tools at the time, I mean it doesn't even explain how they could be cut with such precision.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, yeah, no, it's insane.
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  SPEAKER_02: Copper chisels and chicken bones.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's right.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_02: Which and you can only cut diorite with diorite or a diamond.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um, if you try to cut diorite with a chisel with a copper chisel, it'll bend break.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_02: And if you if you can make enough of them and keep and kept working on one spot for a hundred years, you might make a small dent, you might make a scratch.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's yeah, that sounds that's about right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, it's like a it's like an eight in the Mo's scale or something like that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right, exactly.
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  SPEAKER_02: Very hard stone, yeah.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_02: And the fact that they tell us that we can, you know, that the ancients had done this with copper chisels is like a slap in the face.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's an app, it's absolutely laughable.
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  SPEAKER_02: And they say it with a straight face, which is the most craziest thing, as if we would never find out that you can't cut diorite with a copper chisel.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_00: That's yeah, that's right.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_00: Copper's uh uh at a three MMO scale.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: So that's right, yeah.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_02: When we look at the the pyramid of the pyramid of the sun at Teal at Teotuacon, the pyramid of the sun at Teotowacon, we see uh an incredible structure.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_02: Now, what I saw was that to me it appears to be from the same architect architect uh from the great pyramid because the base of the um of the uh pyramid of the sun is the exact same size as the base of the great pyramid in Egypt, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: So we have Africa and we have Mexico, we have two pyramids, and then the same exact base, both sites are aligned with Orion, right?
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_02: And then on top of that, we have the the pyramid of the sun is exactly 50% the height of the great pyramid at Giza, right?
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like great disposal proportion, yeah.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so it seems like we're pointing to one master architect, and this is a side view here, and you see these shafts, yeah.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_02: These shafts are on the pyramid of the sun, just like there are shafts on the side of I took this as my own for my cell phone camera when I was there last time.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_02: These megalithic shafts are pointing up at the stars with specific star alignments, and um uh we know that the pyramid in in in uh the great pyramid in in Egypt also has these shafts and also align with stars.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's right.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, they they they uh they're proportionally so similar.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um and the fact that the complexes of uh because you know at Teotihuacan, you have the pyramid of the sun, the pyramid of the moon, and the Quetzequatl Temple Pyramid align perfectly with Orion's belt, just like the uh the the three pyramids on the Giza Plateau in Egypt.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: So uh yeah, I mean there's a um there has to be a correlation.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um there's also uh it's also interesting.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um uh there's one of the things that that I've found in Egypt is on Elephantine Island, there's a there's a temple dedicated to Tutumosis the Third.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: And uh in it there's actually a depiction of a Mayan meeting with an Egyptian.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: And uh the the suggestion was uh it was during Tutumosis the Third's time, and uh which would be about uh you know around right around 1500 BCE um but uh he um uh the uh just the fact that the it's almost like the Egyptians had were trying to seek out their you know their cousins, you know, so to speak, uh you know, that they had uh lost during the cataclysm, you know, and in the in the process they they found them, you know.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_02: Um do the Templars have any secrets or knowledge of how Thoth's um, you know, he claims to have built the Great Pyramid at Giza.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_02: Um now any knowledge of how that same construction technique and alignment got from Egypt all the way to Mexico?
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_00: Uh no, I mean it would be the only the only suggestion would be that that Toth uh was you know somehow involved in both.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and uh the um there are some uh strange crossovers um where we find uh in uh amongst the Maya that they talk about uh that they had a leader uh by the name of uh uh Votan.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_00: And uh that Votan had composed comprised uh uh like a thousand jade tablets that had all the wisdom and knowledge uh on them, and that the uh the you know the Maya were were were safeguarding uh uh these tablets, these jade tablets.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: Well uh if we we take Votan into uh the Norse language, it becomes Votan, which is or Hermes in in uh uh you know the Greek and Egyptian tradition.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_00: So um and Toth was was known for these emerald tablets.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_00: So uh you know it suggests that there's a connection there, um with and uh that the the jade tablets are maybe the same thing that the emerald tablets were talking about, since the the name of the person is the same, you know.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_00: The same name, it's the same name, it's the same, yeah.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I I think uh you know there's that that's another one of those connections, you know.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um now according to the the uh emerald tablets of Toth, it it talks about a special relationship between um Toth in particular and uh Chichenitsa in the uh um the the castle, so to speak, uh which is the pyramid there at Chichen Chichenitsa.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um and uh um you know that's a that's a stunning work of uh of art as well.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, or you know, just for a building.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um and uh
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  SPEAKER_02: you know it it has that special relationship as well that on the solstices uh there's a a shadow of a it appears that a serpent is going down the uh down the side of the pyramid you know to the to the serpent's head you know at the at the bottom and uh um of course that was quite a feat of engineering to make that happen so right right i mean imagine the uh the first of all before you build this structure you have to already know where the sun is going to align with it the angle of the uh structure to catch the exact angle of the sun on a particular moment to create the effect of the snake slithering down uh the pyramid uh down towards the actual um you know the serpent's head at the bottom right right and then also you have to have it uh in done in a way where we know that when you stand on a certain uh location you can clap your hands and it makes the sound reflect back of the Quetzalquattle bird.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah I mean so you can't build this structure unless you have foreknowledge that you need to create all these specific aspects and characteristics into the structure and alignments into the structure before you lay the first stone down.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_00: Because if you're off by one centimeter when you start one centimeter magnifies over time and then you can't get all the effects you can't get the you can't predict the days in the year you can't get the snake coming down uh you know on the solstice you can't get the the quetzakwaddle bird uh sound effect you can't get any of it if you're a centimeter off when you start so you have to be so precise and you have to already know it's going to work before you lay the first stone this to me wreaks advanced technology it means it reeks foreknowledge it wreaks advanced planning and that they had done this before in some way or maybe computer modeled it and and then spit out the blueprint and say okay this is how we got to build it what what are your thoughts on that yeah I mean it it to me it's it's certainly it advanced uh and there's and there's probably you know we're not even talking about we're just talking about the care things that are happening on the outside of the pyramid you know I mean on the there's whole layers going into it you know as well and uh um and underneath it you know that uh there's a there's a much bigger complex underneath it than um has been uh you know acknowledged before but but the um uh I mean it's it's certainly certainly advanced knowledge uh you know one of the things that from a Templar perspective that we find particularly interesting about the Maya is that they're in their uh astronomical uh you know observances they they particularly followed uh the the planet Venus and Venus you know became associated with Quetzalquantle uh but uh uh that that tracking of Venus is something that uh the Templars use to help figure out and navigate the the um the size of the earth and uh and and you know and and how to how to move uh with a certain precise calculation across the waters of the oceans uh in you know in a in in a in a stable way intended way um by tracking where Venus was uh at any given time so um uh so that's uh that's uh the fact that the my both the Maya and the Templar were were were you were utilizing that is is pretty interesting and significant I think so yeah no doubt absolutely when it comes down to the Mercury that was discovered until Tilakon yeah what information do you have about this uh well I've heard yeah first uh you know they kind of explained it as rivers of mercury uh later it's been described as uh and this is just relying on the testimony of those who've been down there you know but but but uh it's been described that there's almost like um a map uh on the uh on the ground you know that's a star map that's yeah it's it seems to be yeah yeah some sort of uh a map where it's aligning with stars um and but then there's also uh uh these rivers of mercury that are made down there and uh probably to reflect the heavens uh above um uh but maybe for other uses you know I mean it would have taken the uh a lot of people and a long time to bring in that much mercury uh from from other places I mean it would have had to have been mined uh extracted uh and then brought into that area because it you know the mercury is not native to that particular area so um it would have taken quite an effort to uh even make that happen so right right as soon you know that's assuming it was you know the indigenous group there doing it you know I mean if it was uh if we're talking with about somebody with uh uh real technology on their on their hands they they'd be able to go get it and you know bring it in uh you know with relative ease right yeah yeah if they have you know some some of these things we we are scratching our head but they did it and so for them it's quite possible that it was actually easy we're scratching our heads because we keep putting I think you know even myself I keep putting my mind into the mind of a person uh that's less advanced you know what I'm saying yep but at the same time talking about how advanced it is to build these structures and then so it's like our brains we just can't sometimes wrap our brains around how sophisticated that they must have actually been and their ability to um you know to create these structures and do all of this no is just it's just it's just mind blowing it really is mind blowing because they must have done it because it was easy you know what I mean yeah right well and you know let's also not forget too that these these uh these pyramids in particular uh in the in areas like the Yucatan uh they're all built on these power centers and uh you know you can really feel the energy when you're when you're uh able to be on top of one which uh you know it's kind of hard to get that permission to do that but uh yeah uh yeah well when you look at the usgs.gov you'd go to usgs.gov and you download the earth magnetic field map and then lay it over these ancient sites you lay it over tits and you lay it over Tiltilacon yeah and it it matches which is incredible it matches perfectly um I'm trying to pull up a vermana image right now to pull up on the screen but that is just telling me that they knew how to align these sites with Earth's magnetic field yeah you know and yeah they were probably choose chosen for that yeah right exactly yeah I mean the question is how did they know the magnetic field was even there yeah right right exactly I mean you know how do you understand and know that there's a stronger proportionately stronger electromagnetic field whipping out of the earth in that precise location and okay boom X marks the spot we're gonna build right here and then build structures that harness that ambient natural energy right for all different types of functions in which we can't fully understand today that's right yeah that's absolutely right yeah and this here's a Vimana what do you know about the Vimanas yeah so Vimana the the word vimana comes from the Vedic um uh tradition uh there's a there's a text called the Vimanaka Shastra that that mentions Vimanas but also in the Mahabharata and the Ramayana uh these Indian epics that there's there's also mention of Vimanas and Vimana just means like flying craft is what it means um the now interesting there's a in one interpretation of Sumerian uh the the word uh shemana is also a name for a flying craft of the of the gods the the shem is is the craft i mean it's uh traditionally it's associated with the word word but it could also be a a craft of some kind or an enclosure uh and then the ana was of course where you get uh that's the root of Anunnaki itself you know and it's the it's it's the it would be the the the the craft of the heavens of the gods you know basically Shemana and the Sumerians so you have Vimana Shemana uh and uh and then in uh there's certain Ethiopian texts like the Kebronagas that talk about King Solomon's flying ship yeah that was also powered by Mana so uh uh you you know you have uh uh flying craft of course king Solomon was going to visit the queen of Sheba yes or or the or the queen of Saba in Ethiopia which made her the queen of the Stargate that's right the queen of the Stargate right so yeah so you have King Solomon and his flying craft that's powered by Mana you know going to visit the queen of the Stargate you know so and guess what in my book Compendium of the Emerald Tablets I document where the queen of the Stargate uh also known as Queen Sheba had a copy or translated a version of the Emerald Tablets of Thoth.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah perfect so it had passed through uh most likely he brought it to her yeah right yeah yeah that's right so that's uh that's I mean you have you have these these connections uh of course the there's the mana of the Bible which uh powered King Solomon's craft um which we you know we we think we know what what that is which is uh uh monoatomic gold you know that is uh superconductive uh and and can help with levitation in different ways um but you also have on Easter Island uh Rapinui the the uh the the the Moai statues and uh you know according to the indigenous culture they were said to be moved by a manna substance you know yeah so these things seem to all be be connected and uh in Egypt there there are several texts about even the pharaohs going up to the heavens and uh you know fly soaring above you know everybody else and and uh you know on the one hand you could it you could say oh it's metaphorical but uh but maybe it wasn't maybe it was literal you know maybe early on there was still the remnants of technology or the rem or the memory of technology that was being incorporated into the myths so yeah um and then of course the Maya quetzakoto with the flying serpent you know here is too so yeah these things were probably all related and they're probably all the same technology being uh being utilized and uh um which you know it it really goes back to the uh you know you could the gods or uh the uh uh the science of the of the pre-civilization you know which maybe had been inherited by the gods so yeah um absolutely and when you look at these vomanas and some of the records that were left behind some of them were talking about utilizing a mercury uh along with yeah the mana that's right that's right yeah yeah mercury type uh engine yeah um and then you know so we have the mercury engine or the parts of this thing functioning on mercury and then we have the mercury rivers of mercury discovered in teotom Teotihuacan in Mexico oh maybe and there's you know there's another connection too actually sorry to interrupt you Billy tell me tell me but so there's a there's another site in Xi'an in Xi'an China uh where there are three pyramids that are also aligned with Orion's belt and uh one of them they believe to be uh this emperor and uh they're they're afraid to go in because uh ground testing uh just outside of the pyramid is indicating uh lots of mercury must might be inside the pyramid so there you go they're they're alignment right here apparently there were there were uh texts by the emperor talking about you know him him wanting to be surrounded by mercury you know uh yeah so yeah everyone's afraid the Chinese are afraid to go in there or let anybody go in there because it's just too dangerous right now so we're very toxic I mean mercury will give you instantaneous Alzheimer's instantaneous dementia yeah that's right that's right yeah it's over but now so why would they store why would they risk their brains storing this stuff it had to have a function and a purpose you know and what I think what I always see is like the people the people uh always take this stuff for ceremonial purpose but it had a more technological potentially might have had a more technological purpose and it could have been some of the fuel so to speak for the Vimanas yeah that's right that's exactly right yep right and I see these alignments right here but you know if you look at um if you look at the TR3B the TR3B is a flying triangle uh it was um originally you know a uh black budget but it's been now seen and documented all over the world I was on a TV show on the travel channel called American Mystery where they have me deeply investigate the flying triangle and the TR3B uh and it runs off of a special type of an engine so the engine even though it's a triangle in the center there's a centrifuge and in that centrifuge is mercury oh um and and and you you spin that you rotate that mercury and there's a torus in there so you spin that up to about 60 000 rpm uh inside that torus and then you actually pressurize it to 250 000 atmospheres and then you electrify that torus you get anti-gravity properties and then they have thrust thrusters for navigation and fly by wire technology to navigate skies you know it's almost as if we've duplicated vomanas in the 21st century yeah i i i have to believe that uh of the um credible ufo or uap sightings of today uh probably about a third of them are are actually our modern military having created some of this uh the other two thirds you know are are probably still our our space cousins out there you know coming to coming to check on us right a little bit of a mix you're right and and uh and I think you know it's possible too um uh when these UAPs are often seen in the oceans uh you know they're they're clearly doing something in the ocean uh two of the easiest places to recover um monoatomics are actually uh in the ocean and uh and the other thing that's the the other thing that's easy to recover is mercury uh from in the ocean so the two main things you would need with those propulsions uh would be easy to recover in the ocean which is yeah you know probably why they've been hiding out down there so yeah I believe it I definitely believe the USOs unidentified submersed objects there they are down there um uh you know Christopher Columbus documented in his uh captain's log which you don't write in your captain's log and so unless something really important needs to go on there because the queen and the king are gonna review that but he wrote that something came up out of the ocean and lit up the entire night sky and there's no electricity back then so what could possibly light up the entire night sky so Christopher Columbus documented an actual UFO coming up out of the ocean.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah that's right yeah and these are the TR3Bs right here.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_02: These are real these are man-made uh potentially utilizing some of this ancient knowledge as well as potentially maybe some reverse engineered technology from downcraft but these are the TR3Bs and they are real and they are documented and this is an image a photo of a real one taken by police officers on the ground so they're real again like you said uh a third of them are just our technology that we've we've been able to uh configure and and then maybe there's another uh maybe two thirds are there are ours and maybe there's another another one third that's theirs you know right right right yeah that's right yeah yeah so incredible stuff by the way everyone in the live chat thanks for hanging out with us we have a thousand people on live uh we are Timothy and I are taking you on an amazing sacred tour of Mexico and it is going to be an incredible tour something you just don't want to miss I've been dropping a link in the live chat the link is in the live chat the link is also in the caption of this video or this audio if you're listening to it later on make sure you click that link and register because this tour will sell out very fast.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_02: Imagine coming with Timothy and I on this amazing sacred tour of Mexico and visiting Teotihuacan, visiting Coba and Chitsunitsa and all these other incredible places that we're talking about now seeing with your own eyes and being able to witness this in its glory and then get the knowledge on the actual site that's what we're talking about.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_02: That's going to be incredible and we're looking so much forward to seeing y'all there.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_02: Matter of fact check this out everybody it's Billy Carson aka Forbidden Knowledge I want to invite you to something that is not just a vacation and not just another tour.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_02: This is the sacred expedition into the heart of ancient Mexico and this is the sacred tour you've been waiting for the IOTL rising the pyramids of Mexico experience and from October the 24th to November the 5th 2026 we are taking a select group deep into the pyramids the temples the sacred cities the cenote we're gonna take part in the ceremonies and all the ancient mysteries of Mexico we're going beyond the beaches beyond the tourist traps and beyond the surface level version of history we're going into the world of the Maya, the Toltec, the serpent wisdom and the sacred calendars we're gonna learn about the star alignments and the forbidden, forgotten encoded knowledge in stone.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_02: And when we begin in the Yucatan, staying in beautiful luxury accommodations near the turquoise waters of the Caribbean, we're gonna visit private beaches with access to environments that are designed for rest, connection, transformation and integration.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_02: And then we'll begin to go a lot deeper.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_02: And this is the part that's going to be incredible.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_02: We're going to explore Tulum where ancient temples rise above the sea and become connected to the stars and the sun we're gonna experience the cycles of time and the ancient priesthood That understand astronomy, architecture, frequency, and consciousness in ways that modern science is just now trying to finally decode.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_02: And then we're going to go to Koba, traveling the ancient psychobeb.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_02: And that's the roads that are exploring the power of the Nana and one of the tallest pyramids in the Maya world.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_02: And we'll ask the real questions.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_02: Were these just ceremonial centers, or were they part of a global ancient knowledge system that stretched across continents?
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_02: And we'll experience the Ekfalam, the temple of the Jaguar, one of the most mysterious ancient sites in the region.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_02: And this is where we connect with sacred temples and Mayan ceremonies and a powerful tsunote and the energy of the land itself.
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_02: And of course, we're going to go to Chitsunitsa, down in the Yucatan Peninsula, the home of Kukulkan's castle.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_02: And this is not just a pyramid, this is a mathematical and astronomical spiritual machine carved into stone.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_02: And when you stand there with us, you're standing in front of a message from the ancient world.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_02: And then we're going to visit Bayolid, and we're going to enjoy authentic local food, explore artisan shops, and experience the culture of Mexico in a way that most tourists never ever get a chance to.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_02: And then we continue down to Merida, one of the most beautiful cultural cities in the Yucatan, where we're going to experience the energy of Dia de los Muertos, the day of the dead.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_02: It's not just a holiday, it's an ancestral remembrance, a sacred connection between the living and the dead, the bloodline and the eternal soul.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_02: And from there we're going to visit Pu's Ma, one of the most powerful Maya sites in the Puc region, with the pyramid of the magician, sacred geometry, ancient carvings and symbols that still speak to us thousands of years later.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_02: And then we fly into Mexico City, which is included for one of the biggest energetic shifts in this entire journey.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_02: We're going to experience Dia de los Muertos in the most powerful and beautiful city in the world.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_02: And then visit Teotihuacan, the city of the gods, also known as the city of Tehuti.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_02: The pyramid of the sun is there, the pyramid of the moon, the pyramid of Quetzalquarto, and the Avenue of the Dead.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_02: These are not ordinary monuments, these are massive structures tied to alignment, mythology, initiation, and ancient knowledge.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_02: And then we go to Cholula, home of one of the largest pyramids on planet Earth.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_02: A massive, ancient structure that is still partially buried beneath the land, laid with conquest, religion, history, and lost history.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_02: You'll see how ancient civilizations were covered over and over, then renamed, then buried, but never fully erased.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_02: This journey includes expert lectures by myself and Timothy Hogan, sacred site discussions, cultural experiences, ceremonies, guided explorations, select meals, and transportation within Mexico, and a powerful spiritual community of people who think just like you.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_02: So this is a limited capacity experience.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_02: This is not a massive crowd tour.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_02: This is a curated journey for people ready to walk the path of the agents, ready to reconnect with the sacred wisdom of the experience of Mexico through hidden history, through consciousness, and through transformation.
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_02: So if you ever felt called to the pyramids of Mexico, the Maya, the serpent wisdom, and all of the star alignments, this is your moment.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_02: Don't wait until all the seats are gone.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_02: Reserve your spot today, lock in your place, and come walk with us through the pyramids, temples, cenote, ceremonies, and mysteries of ancient Mexico.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_02: I can't wait to see you there.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_02: All right, it's gonna be amazing, Timothy.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_02: I can't wait to be out there with you, man, in the jungle.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it'll be amazing.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, there's so many cool things we'll be able to show people that uh you're just not gonna get on any other tour as well.
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, uh yeah, uh, including uh the you know the opportunity to participate in Mayan ceremonies.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, uh how cool is that, you know.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_00: So it's that is so cool.
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I can't wait, man.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_02: That that is so cool because I did some, you know, that when I did my tour in Peru last year, I got to do some of the uh ceremonies with um the shaman, and it made the tour just so much more incredible, it like transformed the whole tour, you know.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_00: That's great, yeah.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_00: And that's a hard, that's a hard tour to do too.
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_00: That one, it's uh the high elevation, and uh it's it's hard on you.
• 49:05
  SPEAKER_02: So it was hard.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_02: I got a little edema in my wrist, but but it was you know, it was great to experience, and so I'm so glad that you were able to get us to experience these uh these sacred rituals and and stuff on this Mexico tour.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be incredible.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be great.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_02: Looking forward to it, man.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_02: When you do this Mexico tour, what's your favorite?
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_02: What is your favorite part of this tour?
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_00: I think uh uh the first time uh you you know you're going through the you you go we go to the Koba site where you go through the jungle, uh, and we usually have like little uh peddy cabs where there's there's kids we could give money to to pedal you uh through the through the paths that the ancient uh highways of the Maya, which still exists there in the jungle.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_00: And uh so as they're peddling you through the this area, uh you know, you just see forest and trees all around you, and then all of a sudden it opens up to this incredible uh pyramid, the the second tallest pyramid in the Mayan world, you know, stretching to the sky.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_00: And uh it's just it's breathtaking to see the first time.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, incredible.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_02: Do you think we'll get a chance to touch some of these?
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, not only will we be able to get a chance to touch them, we'll be able to climb them.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um we're trying to get that arranged for all the sites.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_00: Uh we'll at least be able to do it first for some of the some of them.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and uh uh I mean that's that's an experience in itself.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, uh not to give too much away, but at the at the top of the Koba pyramid or the the Nakomul pyramid at Koba, uh there's a uh uh there's uh the remnants of an old kind of hut.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but on the outside of it are two uh tridents uh that are uh they're originally in the shape of what was called the fallen god uh within the Mayan tradition.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and these these fallen gods represented the uh the fall of Otslan, where they had to escape in boats.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so the fact that they're the the the figure's body is in the shape of a trident uh is you know it's really interesting.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_00: I mean it's that after Trident, of course, was the uh said to be the the uh the weapon of Poseidon, the god of Atlantis.
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and we find the trident uh in different ways all you know all over the ancient world, um being used by uh different gods.
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but uh it's powerful stuff.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_00: The fact that it's it's there on the uh on top of this pyramid, you know, again suggests a connection, you know.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, absolutely.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_02: This is me in 2000 and uh 2014 or 13, I can't remember which year it was now.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_02: I'm at the top of the pyramid of the sun.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_02: This is before they shut it down, and you know, nobody can climb it, yeah, unless you have special permissions like the kind that you get.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_02: But uh, I was at the top doing a meditation at the top of the pyramid of the sun back in either 2013 or 14, um, which was just an incredible experience to sit at the top of that, climb that pyramid, then sit at the top.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_02: And it's something that hardly anyone now can ever do.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I mean, it's like there's a such a small percentage of people that will ever get a chance to even get on and touch it now because they got it roped off when I was there in 2023.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I didn't have any way to climb.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_02: I thought I could just walk in and go back up, and I got told, no, no, no, no, you you can't even touch it, you know.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_02: So it's crazy.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, you know, I was thinking there's one other interesting connection between uh Egypt and uh and uh the Maya of the Yucatan.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and this had to do with uh so we I talked about Tumoses III earlier.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well his grandson was the Pharaoh Akhenaten and uh Akhenaten uh was uh uh often depicted as uh somewhat cone-headed and uh and uh uh his his wife Nefertiti's actually statues, there's there's uh Maya statues of a goddess wearing the same headdress as Nefertiti.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_00: And uh which is so there's been some speculation that uh Nefertiti, who was said to be from a faraway land, may have actually been uh a Mayan princess who uh not married.
• 54:19
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and their children were depicted also with this kind of conish head uh which is also interesting.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_00: Uh one of their one of the one of the children went off to um Scotland and uh and the Scotland was actually named after her.
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_00: Uh her name was Princess Scotia.
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_00: Uh and that's what Scotland's named after.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_02: Uh there goes across over there.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but uh one of the things we're gonna get the opportunity to see on our tour, uh that there is uh an area uh well recently in Tulum where some elongated skulls were found.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_00: And uh I've heard they've been put in a special museum down there that's not normally open to the public, but we may get the opportunity to to uh actually see them to see these elongated skulls.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_00: Oh man.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_00: You know, of course, this is something that you you find with Akhenaten, uh you find it uh here here with within these Maya, the oldest Maya uh uh aspects of Tulum.
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um uh and then the fact that you also of course there's the Paracas skulls down in um Peru, uh you know, which which there you go, yeah, um, is is also showing these these strange uh there's strange markings, you know.
• 55:57
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_02: Uh but it but it's uh I've got a couple of skulls right here, so I'll bring that down and uh talking about the skulls.
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_02: This is the kind of stuff we're gonna get a chance to potentially see everybody.
• 56:12
  SPEAKER_02: So you gotta come on this tour.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_02: You better be on this tour if you want to see stuff like this in person and touch stuff like this in person.
• 56:19
  SPEAKER_02: But check it out.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, that's great.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_02: On one side, you've got a paraca skull, on the other side, you've got a human skull, right?
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_02: You can clearly see this is not skull binding, this is more skull, more cranial mass, which you cannot get from skull binding, because skull binding reduces the cranial mass.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_02: This is a fully developed uh skull that has look how I could I can pick up a basketball like it's a tennis ball with my hands.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, I'm six foot four, I got big hands.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_02: You know, you and I are roughly about the same size, yeah, right?
• 56:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I mean, look at this.
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_02: Look how big this skull is.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, this is crazy.
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, I can pick up a basketball like it's a tennis ball.
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_02: This is this is a big skull, man.
• 57:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, this is huge, you know.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I mean, these, you know, I mean, and some of them don't have two uh the parietal plates that a human has, right?
• 57:15
  SPEAKER_02: Which is incredible, you know.
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_02: And so, of course, this is the human skull, so we see a big difference.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_02: My hand can cover the entire human skull, but my hand can't cover the entire paraca skull.
• 57:26
  SPEAKER_00: Well, and uh, you know, let us not forget you know, the depictions of the pharaohnaten with this elongated skull, yeah, is you know, we have to uh assume they were you know depicting what they were seeing uh the artist because uh Akhnaten actually gave a lot more artistic license uh during his uh his time.
• 57:51
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, um we've we of course we don't know where Aknaten's body is.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_00: I mean he was uh when he was uh you know they made him disappear.
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_00: So and they they and and the Amun priesthood then tried to erase any any mention of him, you know.
• 58:10
  SPEAKER_00: So um it uh so we don't actually know what his skull was, but uh certainly in the artwork depictions it's it's elongated.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_02: So oh yeah, for sure, for sure.
• 58:23
  SPEAKER_02: There's no doubt.
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, here's uh here's something of uh Akhenaten here to give people an idea what you're talking about.
• 58:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 58:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um you can see how that elongated skull fits right in with the bust, right?
• 58:37
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_02: And um and then also with uh you know nefertiti.
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_02: Nefertiti, yeah.
• 58:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you can see again here how these these special hats, these royal hats, they really were designed to cover the extended version of the extended uh area of that elongated skull.
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's right.
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, and you know, the fact that it was on both sides of the Atlantic suggests, you know, you know, probably some sort of a dynasty of uh you know people with that genetic disposition, you know, uh that had been uh accepted as rulers on both sides of the Atlantic, you know.
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_02: So well bloodline that extended all the way across.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_00: Right, yeah, right, yeah, absolutely.
• 59:35
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it could be tied to that Anunnaki, you know, bloodline.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, exactly, yeah.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_02: I mean it's it's I mean when you have that much more cranial mass, up to 25 more.
• 59:49
  SPEAKER_02: Imagine only utilizing five to eight percent more of that 25, right?
• 59:54
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you're gonna be you'd have to be a genius.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_02: You forget Einstein, uh, you'd be Einstein 10x, right?
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_00: Right, that's right.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's scary how intelligent a person could be with that much capacity to add an access to their brain, yeah.
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_02: And then we see Teotubacon, it resembles a computer circuit motherboard looking from the sky, looking down.
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's right.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_02: And I mean, so this to me is just mind-boggling.
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, because when we, you know, as you've studied and I've studied the telluric lines and the energetic grid and everything, and all the connections between these sites, it would make sense that human beings, this version of us only creating you know, computer circuits and motherboards is only a fractal of what all already existed on a bigger scale.
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's right.
• 1:00:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's exactly right.
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, uh, as King Solomon said, there's nothing new under the sun, you know.
• 1:00:51
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it keeps coming around, you know.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um it is.
• 1:00:57
  SPEAKER_02: And are these are these sites at Teotihuacan connected with underground tunnels?
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, so at Teotihuacan there are underground tunnels.
• 1:01:07
  SPEAKER_00: Uh uh, and uh I don't know.
• 1:01:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um I don't know if they all connect together, but but I I mean there are tunnels underneath.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um in fact, uh that's how they they at Teotihuacan, that's how they figured out that uh the Maya may have actually had an influence.
• 1:01:30
  SPEAKER_00: Well now they're saying the Maya may have had an influence on the construction because they in digging in in the tunnels uh underneath Teotihuacan, they found um uh not only these rivers of mercury, but they found uh uh Mayan pottery.
• 1:01:51
  SPEAKER_00: And it's definitely Mayan.
• 1:01:53
  SPEAKER_00: Uh so it means at the very least that uh you know it it could be that the the uh the complex was built you know centuries before the Maya, and the Maya adopted it and and went into those, found those tunnels and left an offering.
• 1:02:14
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but right now the standard archaeology is acknowledging, oh well, maybe the Mayans had a connection with the site, you know.
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't think you pull people's hearts out of their chests while they're still alive just to make uh honors to the gods when supposedly you have the technology and the knowledge on how to build structures like this, it just doesn't add up.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_02: Something's missing.
• 1:02:37
  SPEAKER_02: There's a there's a part missing.
• 1:02:38
  SPEAKER_02: I know that the Aztecs had a volcanic eruption um in their um, you know, in their in their valley, and it destroyed everything.
• 1:02:47
  SPEAKER_02: And they the survivors left and they stumbled upon Teotihuacan and they inherited it as well, right?
• 1:02:53
  SPEAKER_02: So this this inheriting type of a setup for civilizations, it seems to be pretty standard across the board.
• 1:03:00
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of these cultures inherited what was already there that was even far more ancient than they can even imagine.
• 1:03:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, um, you know, and they and they kind of just inhabited these places, and it happens, it seems like it happens over and over again.
• 1:03:13
  SPEAKER_02: Some of these sites were probably reused several times, several different civilizations, right?
• 1:03:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it and you can almost see too that they're like for like example in Egypt, you can see that the oldest stuff is the most advanced, uh, but then you can see that later dynasties uh uh where the pharaohs were trying to preserve these sites, and so they would go in with you know smaller stones or uh yeah, uh they'd try to do something that you know in their day to preserve them.
• 1:03:44
  SPEAKER_00: And uh unfortunately, because they preserved those sites, there's been some archaeologists who have uh chosen to say that oh, they must have created these sites, right?
• 1:03:56
  SPEAKER_00: I know it was ridiculous.
• 1:03:57
  SPEAKER_00: They were the first to do a preservation uh, you know, yeah.
• 1:04:00
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, come on.
• 1:04:01
  SPEAKER_02: You go to you go to uh Machu Picchu and you see where the Inca were doing uh repairs, using smaller stones, right?
• 1:04:08
  SPEAKER_02: And it doesn't mean the Inca built Machu Picchu, right?
• 1:04:12
  SPEAKER_02: Right, the the style of molding those stones together is a pre-Inca technology that you know they didn't have it, you know, and it's the same thing everywhere else.
• 1:04:21
  SPEAKER_02: And I saw some people in the live chat asking, was Teotuacon built on top of an aquifer like Giza?
• 1:04:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, the answer is yes, it was.
• 1:04:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, yeah, that's right.
• 1:04:29
  SPEAKER_00: And uh by the way, the fact that both Giza and Teotuacon even have these platforms that the the pyramids are on is more incredible than the pyramids in a sense, you know, you know, you know it takes to level all that out and to you know create in the case of Giza, the stones are are fitted.
• 1:04:53
  SPEAKER_00: Some of those stones have like eight angles to them, you know, and they're fit like a jigsaw puzzle, you know.
• 1:04:58
  SPEAKER_00: So um, yeah, it suggests uh uh uh you know very superior technology, and uh uh or at least the the the attempt to replicate uh that type of thing, you know.
• 1:05:15
  SPEAKER_00: I mean if you go to what if you go on our tutorial, you'll see that uh chichen itsa, the stones are uh uh more flush and fitted and uh you know tightly uh it's very geometric.
• 1:05:32
  SPEAKER_00: Uh whereas uh knock mool is kind of looks like uh a bunch of used Lego pieces all put together to build a pyramid, you know.
• 1:05:43
  SPEAKER_00: Right, right, yes.
• 1:05:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um but they but they you know they both have their own functions and uh and are are impressive in their own ways.
• 1:05:52
  SPEAKER_02: So right, right, yeah, absolutely.
• 1:05:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's gonna be great.
• 1:05:56
  SPEAKER_02: I'm looking forward to um to to this tour.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm honored that you um you contacted me and you know invited me to kind of co-host this tour with you tour with you.
• 1:06:07
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I'm sharing the link to all of our incredible, beautiful people that follow the Forbidden Knowledge accounts.
• 1:06:12
  SPEAKER_02: Everyone click that link and register ASAP so I can send you a special invite for the Forbidden Tour, the sacred tour that we're gonna take in Mexico with Timothy Hogan, the Knights Templar.
• 1:06:24
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, it's one it's a one-of-a-kind opportunity.
• 1:06:28
  SPEAKER_02: The thing about these tours is we don't know how long we'll we're gonna be able to have VIP access to sites, we're gonna be able to have this type of access to locations because over time, as Timothy can tell you, we see the lockdown of certain sites.
• 1:06:44
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, half of Matthew Peach is roped off now, right?
• 1:06:47
  SPEAKER_02: I couldn't even get to that side.
• 1:06:48
  SPEAKER_02: I had I had VIP access and I couldn't get to the other side.
• 1:06:51
  SPEAKER_02: They completely shut it off.
• 1:06:52
  SPEAKER_02: Back in 2017, I walked the whole thing.
• 1:06:56
  SPEAKER_02: It took me a few hours, but I can't do it anymore.
• 1:06:59
  SPEAKER_02: So every single Time we go back, you never know if it could be the last time.
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_02: I was one of the last people to climb the pyramid of Cuko Con.
• 1:07:05
  SPEAKER_02: I did that years ago.
• 1:07:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then now you can only do it with special access on a tour like this, maybe if we can get that permission.
• 1:07:12
  SPEAKER_02: But but sometimes you can't go, you know.
• 1:07:15
  SPEAKER_00: That's right, that's right.
• 1:07:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:07:17
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, uh, you know, we're we're fortunate because you know, I'm pretty sure we have access to to most all of it, so but but uh you you just don't know.
• 1:07:28
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I I used to do tours in Egypt back in two 2011.
• 1:07:33
  SPEAKER_00: Uh then there was the the Arab Spring happened, and oh man, the government was overturned, and and it just wasn't safe to go there, you know, for several years afterwards, you know.
• 1:07:46
  SPEAKER_00: And uh so you know, you just don't know when something like that happens, too.
• 1:07:52
  SPEAKER_02: You don't know, listen, but you know, you know, talking about the Arab Spring, you know what my welcome to Egypt was.
• 1:07:57
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't know it was the Arab Spring, I went, right?
• 1:07:59
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 1:08:00
  SPEAKER_02: And the first they have caught the this was at the point where they were capturing the rebels and putting them in in firing squads.
• 1:08:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, yep, yeah.
• 1:08:08
  SPEAKER_02: I I look out of my window, there's a firing squad squad, uh firing uh right there in the main square, and they're gunning down.
• 1:08:16
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, that's a here square.
• 1:08:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:08:20
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, Yeah, where am I?
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 1:08:25
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, yeah, you know, yeah, it's true.
• 1:08:27
  SPEAKER_00: Probably around that time where Mubar Mubarak's office was bombed, you know, which is just right right above that square, you know.
• 1:08:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:08:37
  SPEAKER_02: He was worth 80 billion dollars while his entire country was living in squalor.
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_02: That guy was crazy, man.
• 1:08:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know, I know, I know.
• 1:08:46
  SPEAKER_00: Crazy.
• 1:08:47
  SPEAKER_00: Uh uh the good old days, the good old days, inshallah, those are past.
• 1:08:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 1:08:53
  SPEAKER_02: Those are those days are gone.
• 1:08:55
  SPEAKER_02: But listen, we went through all of that and we still keep going back.
• 1:08:58
  SPEAKER_02: So we're we're true, we're true uh um explorers, you know.
• 1:09:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:09:02
  SPEAKER_00: Well, things have totally settled down now.
• 1:09:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, it's okay.
• 1:09:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, um, we would and certainly we wouldn't want to put anybody in harm's way.
• 1:09:13
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, those days are long.
• 1:09:15
  SPEAKER_00: Any of our tours, you know, to anywhere.
• 1:09:17
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, yeah, those days are longer.
• 1:09:19
  SPEAKER_02: I was solo at the time, man, but it was a it was a great experience.
• 1:09:22
  SPEAKER_02: I ain't gonna lie, it was like kind of exciting.
• 1:09:24
  SPEAKER_00: But you know, that's uh yeah, I was there.
• 1:09:27
  SPEAKER_00: I remember I remember seeing it.
• 1:09:30
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, it was a it was a mess.
• 1:09:34
  SPEAKER_02: No, oh man, we made it.
• 1:09:36
  SPEAKER_02: We made it to the other side, yeah.
• 1:09:38
  SPEAKER_02: So listen, y'all, come hang out with us in Mexico.
• 1:09:41
  SPEAKER_02: We promise it won't be any Arab Springs there, it won't be any detrimental situations.
• 1:09:45
  SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be fun, exciting, spiritual, activating, and a lot of knowledge will be shared.
• 1:09:51
  SPEAKER_02: I'll drop the link in the live chat one more time.
• 1:09:53
  SPEAKER_02: Uh follow Timothy Hogan on all social media.
• 1:09:57
  SPEAKER_02: What where are you located on social media right now?
• 1:10:00
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I you know I can be found uh uh at uh uh Timothy Warren Hogan.com.
• 1:10:07
  SPEAKER_00: Uh there's uh there's a website.
• 1:10:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um uh but you can also find me on Facebook, on Instagram, on uh YouTube, uh and uh I guess I think I'm on TikTok too, but uh yeah, just search for Timothy Hogan, you'll find me.
• 1:10:28
  SPEAKER_02: Gotcha.
• 1:10:28
  SPEAKER_02: All right, brother.
• 1:10:29
  SPEAKER_02: I'm looking forward to seeing you.
• 1:10:30
  SPEAKER_02: I gotta have you back on the podcast again very soon so we could talk more because there's so much to talk about with Mexico.
• 1:10:35
  SPEAKER_02: You can't do it all in one podcast.
• 1:10:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's right.
• 1:10:39
  SPEAKER_00: I can promise we're gonna show you things that uh uh most people never get to see, number one, and number two, uh you're gonna see things that uh even if people get to see them, they don't get to really understand them.
• 1:10:55
  SPEAKER_00: And uh we'll be able to give you at least some different interpretations of what's really going on there, and yeah, and it's exciting, it tells uh a very intriguing uh history of our past.
• 1:11:11
  SPEAKER_02: So yes, absolutely.
• 1:11:14
  SPEAKER_02: All right, brother.
• 1:11:15
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you, man.
• 1:11:15
  SPEAKER_02: I appreciate you.
• 1:11:16
  SPEAKER_02: Tell Kendra I said hello, and I'll see you again very soon.
• 1:11:19
  SPEAKER_02: All right, thanks, thanks, peace to you, Billy.
• 1:11:21
  SPEAKER_02: All right, peace.
• 1:11:23
  SPEAKER_02: That was the living legend, Knights Templar, a real Knights Templar, not a fake Knights Templar, a real Knights Templar, Timothy Hogan.
• 1:11:32
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, he's got the guy's amazing.
• 1:11:34
  SPEAKER_02: He's a and he's a wealth of knowledge, and I'm looking forward to doing this tour of Mexico with Timothy Hogan.
• 1:11:41
  SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be this October coming up towards the end of October, going into the beginning of November.
• 1:11:47
  SPEAKER_02: You don't want to miss this tour.
• 1:11:49
  SPEAKER_02: It is gonna be one of the most amazing tours that I've done.
• 1:11:53
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, we're gonna see things that hardly anyone will get a chance to see.
• 1:11:56
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna explore in a way that hardly anyone gets a chance to explore.
• 1:11:59
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna visit the it's like 10 bucket list pyramids in one tour.
• 1:12:05
  SPEAKER_02: And to be part of the sacred rituals and to be a part of the activations live with the actual indigenous culture is a whole nother level of experience.
• 1:12:16
  SPEAKER_02: When I travel to these places, I like to deal and be a part of the culture itself.
• 1:12:24
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I like to merge with the culture to experience the culture so I can see it and envision it from their own eyes, from their own perspective, so I can expand my own consciousness, expand my knowing, expand my way of seeing the world.
• 1:12:40
  SPEAKER_02: These types of experiences are absolutely priceless.
• 1:12:43
  SPEAKER_02: You can't even put a price tag on them.
• 1:12:46
  SPEAKER_02: And so that's why I love taking these kind of trips and tours, and I'd love to have y'all come along with me.
• 1:12:52
  SPEAKER_02: Again, I dropped a link in the live chat again.
• 1:12:55
  SPEAKER_02: It's also in the caption of this video, caption of this audio.
• 1:12:59
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, I'll be back again with Timothy Hogan pretty soon to talk more about the lost technologies of the Maya and ancient Mexico.
• 1:13:08
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 1:13:09
  SPEAKER_02: I'll catch y'all later.
• 1:13:10
  SPEAKER_02: All right, peace.