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- 0:02I'm Holly Wayment, and this is Pediatrics Now.
- 0:06Here today with me in the podcast studio is Dr. Emily Becker.
- 0:11Shall we go over some myths versus facts about acne? Yes. Of course.
- 0:17Okay, so number one thing that we always see, and I still see parents talking
- 0:21about this, well, they eat so much greasy food and it's their diet that is the
- 0:29reason why the acne is so bad.
- 0:31If they just stopped eating all those french fries and pizza,
- 0:34do you think that's a myth or a fact?
- 0:37Well, I thought that it was a fact, but then the way you're saying it makes me think that is a myth.
- 0:41It was kind of a trick question because it's kind of true yes and no.
- 0:44So a lot of the parents think that food is one of the main contributors,
- 0:49you know, second to hygiene.
- 0:51The only real food that we have had data showing it does contribute to worsening
- 1:00acne is actually milk and milk products. Really?
- 1:04Yeah. And interestingly, you know, they did the studies and it's actually the
- 1:10skim milks are worse than, for example, the 2% than, for example,
- 1:16the whole milk. I wonder why.
- 1:18Well, you know, we're not sure if that hormonal aspect, right,
- 1:22of things plays a role in however it is the cows or, you know, milk is gotten.
- 1:29But in general, dairy and dairy-based products actually can take a stable kid's
- 1:37acne doing great and make it exacerbated or flare.
- 1:41So that is one thing that you can kind of bug your kids about is,
- 1:46all right, chill on the milk. We don't need 10 glasses a day.
- 1:49Let's cut it down to two. So I did not say take out all yogurts and dairies and cheeses.
- 1:55Dr. Becker, you're the head of our pediatric dermatology program at University
- 2:00Health and UT Health San Antonio. That's a big job.
- 2:04So yes, and like born and raised Pexin met my husband here in medical school.
- 2:11I think we always knew we were going to come back, but nonetheless,
- 2:15we traveled to the Northeast to do my pediatrics residency, and he did his internal
- 2:23medicine residency and got to hang out in the wonderful, amazing New York City.
- 2:28So taking a little Texas girl to New York was a culture shock.
- 2:33At Columbia, you were doing your... Yes, at Columbia. I did general pediatrics.
- 2:37And then... Did you like it there? Oh, I loved it. I love New York.
- 2:41It's amazing, except that the culture shock was, you know, the first time I
- 2:45went to a grocery store and I bought all these wonderful things.
- 2:48And then I realized I don't even have a car to take them home.
- 2:52So I had to make four trips back and forth. Because you're walking everywhere.
- 2:55Yes. But nowadays, I guess you could Uber, you know, eats things and all kinds
- 2:59of delivery. But that didn't exist. I won't tell you how long ago.
- 3:03And then we got to travel to the wonderful West Coast.
- 3:07Where I did some clinical dermatology research, specifically in psoriasis.
- 3:13We'll do that as another podcast someday.
- 3:16Yes. Sounds good. Put that on the books. I love San Francisco.
- 3:19And so my husband and I like to say, I love the East Coast. He loved the West
- 3:24Coast, but we couldn't compromise.
- 3:26I mean, we had to compromise. So we settled in the middle and ended up in Texas again.
- 3:31So we ended up back in Texas for my dermatology and pediatric dermatology fellowships
- 3:37And of course, Texas is our heart. It's like where we knew we would be.
- 3:42And I'm super happy and proud to get to take care of all these wonderful children,
- 3:48adolescents, teens in our San Antonio and South Texas community.
- 3:53It's such an honor. That's great. And you see patients all throughout South Texas, even in Corpus.
- 3:58And you do telemedicine, I understand. Yeah, so we do telemedicine.
- 4:02I see patients in South Texas.
- 4:03Again, pediatric dermatology is, it's a unique niche. There's not a ton of us.
- 4:09We're growing, we're growing, we're going to get there.
- 4:11But I always get made fun of for like, what do you actually do as a pediatric
- 4:17dermatologist in skincare and acne, right?
- 4:20But I don't know why I went into pediatric dermatology, just that I love skin
- 4:27and I love taking care of kids.
- 4:29But the way I would describe my job as a pediatric dermatologist is sort of
- 4:34from diaper rashes to warts to teenage acne.
- 4:40Like, I've seen it all.
- 4:43And my job as a pediatric dermatologist is to make sure parents worry less.
- 4:51That's number one, right? Parents worry less because you parents are my patients too, right?
- 4:57And kids feel their best, one rash, one bump, one pimple at a time.
- 5:06And it's a huge job. But you love it. I love it.
- 5:10I wouldn't rather be doing anything else. I mean, there's nothing else I can see that I enjoy doing.
- 5:15And we talked about in our Pediatrics Now for Parents episode,
- 5:19we just recorded that you get to take care of the largest organ in our bodies.
- 5:24It's challenging at times. You know, sometimes the skin gives you easy answers,
- 5:29and then other times it throws tough ones at us.
- 5:32And I think as pediatricians, and I am one myself, so been there,
- 5:39done that. You're triple board certified?
- 5:41Yeah, pediatrics, dermatology, PedsDerm, I've done it all.
- 5:44The joke is I could be like a neurosurgeon right now with all my years of training,
- 5:47but I wouldn't, again, rather be doing anything else.
- 5:50So as pediatricians, we're busy throughout the day.
- 5:56We know acne. You know skin care. You know the basics of those conditions,
- 6:04but how do we know when we need to reach out for support from our dermatology
- 6:10colleagues and when it's something we can handle within our own four clinic walls?
- 6:16And so what are the top things that you would say this is something that can
- 6:21be treated in the clinic as opposed to being, or when is there a sign when something needs to be sent?
- 6:27If I could give my wish list of the perfect pediatrician referral,
- 6:33when to refer, all of our acne patients,
- 6:38the majority of them should be treated with something before sending to a dermatologist,
- 6:45whether it's an adult general dermatologist or a pediatric dermatologist.
- 6:48So as pediatricians, let's go ahead and say, these are the things we want you to have done.
- 6:54And if these things don't work, then we know we need referral to dermatology.
- 6:59So every kid that has acne or teenager needs to have at least done a benzoyl
- 7:04peroxide in some form or fashion.
- 7:06Remember, we have washes, we have lotions, we have gels, we have creams.
- 7:09So some type of benzoyl peroxide, some type of topical antibiotic,
- 7:14so aclindamycin and erythromycin, and then some type of retinoid.
- 7:20And as you're familiar, I know the over-the-counter adapalene,
- 7:23many of our patients have tried, but we really do encourage trying the prescription
- 7:29versions as well. Well, my pediatricians love to prescribe the tretinoin.
- 7:34A lot of times we'll start out at the 0.025, and then if the patient tolerates
- 7:38it, we can work up to the 0.05 or the 0.1.
- 7:41Those are almost mandatory to have, please try those on your patients before
- 7:48saying, nope, their acne is horrible.
- 7:50And then I challenge some of my other pediatricians that are comfortable,
- 7:54you guys write antibiotics all the time for me.
- 7:57Ear infections, skin infections, please feel comfortable writing things like
- 8:04doxycycline, minocycline for our acne patients who have failed the topicals that I just mentioned.
- 8:12You know, you don't have to do a forever course. Say, hey, I'm going to give
- 8:16you a three months of this doxycycline medication since our topical acne regimen may not have worked.
- 8:22And in the meantime, I will send a referral to dermatology in case when I see
- 8:28you in three months, that acne is not better.
- 8:32So I feel like we should add the oral medications, doxycycline,
- 8:36minocycline, to some things that maybe I would love for my pediatricians to
- 8:41have tried before they send over some of the more complicated acne patients.
- 8:46And what about topical antibiotics? The topical antibiotics,
- 8:50the clindamycin and the erythromycin, those do great things.
- 8:54So it's sort of like before you've done an oral antibiotic, I want you to have
- 9:00tried a topical because obviously topicals are less invasive,
- 9:03less problematic, less side effects.
- 9:04Now, in our female patients, it would be ideal if we could get some kind of
- 9:11hormonal treatment on board.
- 9:13If they've already failed our topicals, they may or may not have already tried an oral antibiotic.
- 9:20We're still struggling. many of our female
- 9:22patients do great with hormonal options and
- 9:26many of my pediatrician colleagues are very familiar
- 9:29with birth control pills oral contraceptives
- 9:33easy to prescribe I understand there's some moral ethical concerns that many
- 9:38families may have but that's a short discussion and respecting their beliefs
- 9:42and desires understandably but
- 9:44at least as a pediatrician offering that to them as a great acne option.
- 9:50Because let's be honest, the next step really is Accutane.
- 9:54Do you see anything that's often
- 9:56missed in the community pediatric setting that you'd want to mention?
- 10:00Things that are missed in our pediatric world, I would say one thing we're really
- 10:08trying to encourage is atopic dermatitis or eczema, and we could have a whole separate talk,
- 10:16I still feel like many of my pediatric colleagues are using the systemic steroids
- 10:23and prednisone as a little bit of a crutch as a quick fix for some of these
- 10:28kids with severe eczema or atopic dermatitis.
- 10:32I'm sure many are familiar with the fact that we have some great alternative
- 10:37non-steroidal systemic options that are non-immunosuppressive.
- 10:42Yes, many of them are in the injection form, but gone are the days of saying,
- 10:48oh, topicals aren't enough.
- 10:50Let's put you on a systemic steroid because the risk of the systemic steroids are so significant.
- 10:57So I really, that would be maybe a miss that we're trying to work on when I
- 11:01educate and give talks to my pediatric colleagues is if topicals aren't enough
- 11:07for your atopic dermatitis, infants.
- 11:11Children, teens, send them over to dermatology because we can have that discussion
- 11:18about maybe internal or systemic medicines that work from the inside out might
- 11:24be a good fit for this patient.
- 11:26What about spots for skin cancer. Is there anything you want to say there?
- 11:31Yeah, skin cancer spots in kids are, you know, pretty rare. I would say we do
- 11:36get a lot of referrals for mole checks.
- 11:39Now, I don't need to see, I'd be crazy busy. I'd be busy with moles for my entire
- 11:43life as a pediatric dermatologist if we saw every child's moles.
- 11:47Moles are, you know, normal in kids. But the kids that you might want to send
- 11:52for skin checks would definitely be ones where there's family history of melanomas,
- 11:57family histories of dysplastic or atypical moles,
- 12:01family histories of basal cell, squamous cell, skin cancers.
- 12:04Because it's extremely, extremely rare, pediatric melanomas do exist.
- 12:08But more importantly, we do have other types of atypical moles,
- 12:15spitz nevi, dysplastic nevi, that can show up in kids and may not present the
- 12:20same as what we see in our adult population.
- 12:24So the spot that may be, for example,
- 12:26a melanoma on you may look entirely different as a melanoma in a child.
- 12:33So skin checks in those patients and kids that are high risk due to family history, genetic tendency,
- 12:40or those patients that are on immunosuppressive treatments or transplant cancer
- 12:45patients all need routine skin checks.
- 12:49So once a year? Once a year, yeah.
- 12:52Is there anything new, Emily, in dermatology that's just kind of just blows
- 12:57your mind right now that you want pediatric community practitioners to know about? It blows my mind.
- 13:03I feel like the advances in medical treatment for many of our skin conditions
- 13:12that were previously seen as cosmetic,
- 13:15these advances medically have really changed the way we practice.
- 13:20I mentioned earlier, I know atopic dermatitis is not cosmetic,
- 13:24but having these injection biologic medications has transformed how we treat
- 13:30these kids. It's not a curable disease, but it's a controllable disease,
- 13:33and it really affects their quality of life.
- 13:36Second would be a condition that many people do consider cosmetic is these advances
- 13:42we've had in the alopecia areata world.
- 13:45And, you know, I know my pediatrician colleagues, you guys are familiar with
- 13:49alopecia areata, varying forms.
- 13:51Sometimes the kids will just have one bald spot on their scalp.
- 13:54Other times, 90%, 100% of their scalp has no hair.
- 13:58And in alopecia universalis, the severe form, they have no hair over all parts
- 14:05of their body, not a single hair on their body.
- 14:08We have some oral medication options now for those patients or parents that
- 14:15are willing to try a systemic medicine when topicals have not worked to regrow that hair.
- 14:21And I know it seems like it's just the hair, but it's so much more than that.
- 14:26It's the kid's self-esteem.
- 14:27It's the kid's confidence. It's who they define themselves as.
- 14:31So definitely something to consider. Gone are the days of, eh, it's just hair loss.
- 14:38Wear a wig. Not that any of you would say that, but now we can say,
- 14:42you know, I know in dermatology they've had some.
- 14:46Treatment advances, why don't you go talk to your friendly neighborhood dermatologist,
- 14:50pediatric dermatologist, about if you want to consider some options.
- 14:55And we've talked a lot about acne. And do you have any advice for it?
- 15:01Because a lot of community pediatricians have patients who, you know,
- 15:05where the advice is have a more nutritious diet with fruits and vegetables,
- 15:10but the family can't afford more fruits and vegetables.
- 15:13Or what if the family can't afford to bring their child to a dermatologist and that child has acne.
- 15:20Right. So advice for, you know, maybe the patients in between where maybe they
- 15:25don't have access to a dermatologist,
- 15:27either financially, insurance-wise, or just time-wise, what can we do as pediatricians to help?
- 15:37You know, counsel the parents. I always like to say we don't want to draw too
- 15:41much attention to the acne.
- 15:43We don't want the kids to become more self-conscious because we're talking about
- 15:46how horrible the acne scars are, how horrible the patient looks. No, you are beautiful.
- 15:52Your skin looks great. We just want to make it the best skin that it can be for you.
- 15:59I would encourage, you know, some education of patients and parents via reputable sources.
- 16:08So social media, TikTok, influencers are not the most reputable source for skincare,
- 16:17especially acne skincare.
- 16:20There's many myths. In fact, you can reference, right? They can all listen to our parent podcast.
- 16:28Yes. Yes. So we recorded a podcast for parents on Pediatrics Now for Parents
- 16:34that's meant to be one less thing you have to say in the exam room.
- 16:37That's all about myth versus fact, social media, myths versus fact, hacks.
- 16:44Do they work or don't they? So Dr. Becker outlines directly what to say and
- 16:48even advice about sunscreen and products that might be doing more harm than good.
- 16:54So you can find that in Pediatrics Now for Parents.
- 16:57Anywhere you get your podcasts. And you can tell your patients about that if
- 17:00you want. And I'll put a link in here.
- 17:03But I know for a lot of pediatricians, social media comes up in every visit,
- 17:08no matter what the child is coming in for.
- 17:11And it just seems like social media is not helping when it comes to our skin.
- 17:16Right. Social media is creating more of a hassle sometimes when it comes to
- 17:20the skin, and you'll hear me reference less is best.
- 17:24So please encourage patients and parents to get their knowledge from reputable sources and.
- 17:32More is not always better, and less is sometimes best.
- 17:38Anything else you want to say about social media? And I'll put in some of what
- 17:43we talked about so they can hear, you know, what we talked about.
- 17:46You said a lot of good stuff. Yeah, and just be cautious.
- 17:48Just be discerning. I know all of us in today's day and age,
- 17:51we're sort of, you know, tracking what sites our kids are visiting,
- 17:57you know, what sites our things are popular, not popular.
- 18:01So start asking your patients where they're getting their information.
- 18:07And it takes a five-second comment of, well, actually, I have a better source
- 18:15of information for you to learn about acne.
- 18:18Why don't you try this? It's just redirecting them and showing them the example
- 18:22of how to, you know, be a responsible learner and take care of yourself in a, you know,
- 18:30I guess, proven way, a scientifically proven way, as opposed to the influencer way.
- 18:37Mm-hmm. Well, and I know when you saw my daughter...
- 18:41She said to me, because you'd mentioned how beautiful her eyes are,
- 18:44she said, Dr. Becker said I had beautiful eyes and beautiful skin.
- 18:47And to your point, like the power that when you're a doctor in that exam room
- 18:52for that self-confidence for a patient, that there's so much to cover in the exam room.
- 18:58But those few seconds that you said that, I feel like it made a huge difference.
- 19:02Well, and one of my good, esteemed, amazing pediatric dermatology colleagues, Dr.
- 19:08Alana But Brie has a program for children with skin conditions.
- 19:14And so I can't take credit. I'll give her all the credit.
- 19:17But she says really empower the child, the adolescent, even the infant to love
- 19:23the skin they're in. Love the skin that you were given.
- 19:27Whatever the best form of that skin may be, love the skin you're in.
- 19:31And so I think as pediatricians, going back to the basics, sometimes it doesn't
- 19:36matter exactly what acne cream we give them, exactly what topical steroid lotion
- 19:42we prescribe for that eczema patient.
- 19:45What matters is maybe the
- 19:48words we say and how we choose to
- 19:51say them and if you can get that patient
- 19:55who comes to you for a skin condition to love the skin they're in then i really
- 19:59truly feel we've done our job i think that's so beautiful do you have anything
- 20:04specific example wise you would want to say because with our a lot of our listeners
- 20:08they're seeing so much and flu, their vaccines,
- 20:12you're talking about measles now and bird flu and everything.
- 20:16I think this is not a particular example. It happens all the time.
- 20:20I've kind of made it a thing to empower especially some of my younger kid patients.
- 20:26So they come in maybe with a birthmark or a mole on their face that,
- 20:31you know, they may not like or other friends or kids are teasing them about, I like to say,
- 20:39well, that special spot that you were given,
- 20:42you know it provides you with superpowers.
- 20:46Well, what do you mean superpowers? Yeah, superhero powers.
- 20:50What kind of superhero are you going to be? Because you have that special birthmark,
- 20:54you know, that special, you know, hemangioma, that special skin lesion.
- 20:59What kind of superpowers do you have? and just leave it open-ended question.
- 21:04And it's such a fun thing, because even the quiet, more reserved children will
- 21:09just come out of their shell.
- 21:10And it may not be that visit, but that next visit you see them again,
- 21:13they'll be like, I have invincibility.
- 21:16Like, what? And I'll forget I even talked about it.
- 21:18Oh, because your birthmark mole gave you invincibility. Yeah, look.
- 21:22Or I have invisibility power. You're right, I can't see you right now.
- 21:26And just normalizing the fact that.
- 21:32They're unique and special in their own way, but also acknowledging that that very birthmark spot,
- 21:38that very, you know, hemangioma, port wine stain, whatever it may be,
- 21:42rash, eczema, makes them special and unique in their own way.
- 21:46I think that's really beautiful.
- 21:48Emily, for the busy pediatrician, is there anything that you want to say?
- 21:53So this is sort of like, you know, is this the bonus segment?
- 21:57I switch from pediatric dermatologist to just dermatologist slash doctor mama
- 22:04with mature skin that wants to keep my skin looking as young as possible.
- 22:08Yeah. OK. This is all the bonus stuff.
- 22:11Every one of us that enters our more mature ages, you know, we're no longer
- 22:18teenagers anymore or even college kids.
- 22:21All of us should be for sure using sunscreen. That's going to prevent some of
- 22:26our photo aging, some of our melasma, some of our dark spots or our sunspots. So that's a must.
- 22:31We also like to incorporate vitamin C in some form or fashion as antioxidant.
- 22:37There's different serums, things.
- 22:39That's something that's very easy to find over the counter in various formulations.
- 22:46And then we should also all moisturize our skin.
- 22:50I'm not talking about the slugging. We can reference the slugging in the parent
- 22:54podcast. If you do not know what that is, my fellow pediatricians, go learn all about it.
- 22:59But we need to moisturize to really keep our skin as fresh and youthful as it can be.
- 23:05And then lastly, I really do feel that as long as you're not actively trying
- 23:11to conceive or pregnant, most of us would benefit from a topical retinoid.
- 23:18Remember that vitamin A topical retinoid with its exfoliative,
- 23:23anti-wrinkle, anti-aging properties, even if it's only two or three times a
- 23:27week, is very beneficial.
- 23:29We should all have a sunscreen, moisturizer, vitamin C, and if possible,
- 23:35remember, not during pregnancy, not during active conceiving, retinoid.
- 23:41And then put it all over the face? Yeah, you want to do like the retinoid pea-sized
- 23:45amount all over the face nightly because remember it can cause sun sensitivity
- 23:50and some dryness and irritation.
- 23:52And then we like to put the moisturizer on over.
- 23:55After about 10 minutes, wait 10 minutes? No, you don't need to wait.
- 23:58Just put it on. Who has time for that with kids and work and life?
- 24:01And if we put more than a pea-sized portion, is that really bad?
- 24:05It's not really bad. But if you wake up in the morning, like literally elephant
- 24:09dry lizard skin cracking, you know you put too much. Okay.
- 24:14Oh, and what about a quote? We forgot to say the quote. Do you have a quote
- 24:17you want to share with our listeners?
- 24:20Is less is best and more is not better. Let's do that. More is not necessarily better.
- 24:26So when it comes to the skin, less is best and oftentimes more is not better.
- 24:34And a lot of times that more is
- 24:36what is the messages people are getting on social media and other places.
- 24:40Right. We don't need to overdo things. Take it easy. Relax.
- 24:45The skin being the largest organ in the whole body,
- 24:49it truly is very complicated but
- 24:51when you cut right through it it's very simple very nice okay and real fast
- 24:56what do you like to do in your spare times because we like to promote having
- 24:58a life outside of medicine do you do it like you have four kids what do you
- 25:04like to do in your spare time are you reading anything that you love watching
- 25:07anything you love and then we'll wrap.
- 25:10Going on a trip anytime soon fun just got back from somewhere fun yeah going
- 25:16to the beach and wearing a large hat.
- 25:18Oh, yeah. Well, in my spare time, I enjoy being outdoors with family.
- 25:24We just celebrated my mom's 70th birthday.
- 25:27I have four younger brothers, four kids of my own. So you can imagine it's a big extended family.
- 25:34I can't be the doctor that I am today without the help and support of my family,
- 25:41my mom, and all those that, you know, keep us going through this crazy time we call life.
- 25:47That's beautiful. Dr. Emily Becker, the head of our pediatric dermatology program
- 25:53at University Health and UT Health San Antonio, thank you so much for being
- 25:58here today on Pediatrics Now. Thank you for having me.
- 26:01Here's a clip from Pediatrics Now for Parents and other social media myths.
- 26:08So one pediatrician I was talking to, she said no matter what a child comes
- 26:12in for, they end up talking at some point about social media.
- 26:17Let's talk about some viral acne hacks. So some of these hacks can do more harm than good.
- 26:23So most of these viral hacks go with, you know, our thought of sometimes less is best, right?
- 26:31Sometimes we're actually doing more harm by putting more and more on our face.
- 26:35And then remember, secondly, just because something is expensive doesn't mean
- 26:40it's necessarily better.
- 26:41So let's take the probably least expensive viral hack is, have you heard of
- 26:46the toothpaste on pimples?
- 26:47Did your mom tell you to do that? No, but I can imagine it. I have not heard that.
- 26:52Yeah, so basically toothpaste has all kinds of ingredients that are meant to
- 26:56be in our mouths, not over our epidermis, on our skin, and it can aggravate,
- 27:02irritate the skin, and actually make breakouts worse.
- 27:04So that's one where instead of doing toothpaste to kind of cover up the pimples,
- 27:12a lot of patients I recommend options like some spot treatment.
- 27:17And remember going back to benzoyl peroxide, there's very strong strengths of
- 27:22benzoyl peroxide in some of those spot treatments.
- 27:23And those are great to help, quote unquote, dry up the acne pimple and do it
- 27:28in a safe, non-irritating way. So have your teens look for those spot treatment options.
- 27:35Don't put toothpaste on. Don't put toothpaste. The other thing is if you have
- 27:40the urge to put something on.
- 27:43These hydrocolloid bandages, oh my gosh, I wish I would have come up with these.
- 27:48Are those those little, like sometimes they're a little heart shape?
- 27:51Oh my gosh, they have stars, they have hearts, they have translucent clear ones,
- 27:56and they're just little circles or various shapes about the size of an acne
- 28:00pimple that have a hydrocolloid center that basically protects the acne pimples,
- 28:08but also helps in some of the healing process.
- 28:12One of our most favorite things to
- 28:15recommend now that you're not going to waste money on it's
- 28:19a good use of money is actually to get those
- 28:21little acne spot treatment patches to
- 28:25cover up any of the active acne pimples but there's no concern there that it
- 28:30could be doing yes and no i love them so much because for my purposes it keeps
- 28:35the kids from picking the pimples and remember let the body heal it up on its
- 28:40own, the body will do a better job than we will.
- 28:43So some of my very patients that like to touch the budding dermatologists,
- 28:48they want to be Dr. Pimple Poppers.
- 28:50I like to recommend the little patches because it keeps their hands away.
- 28:54But some of my patients that follow rules too much, we are seeing some kids
- 29:01keep the patches on for too long.
- 29:04And what do we think is going to be percolating under those patches if we've
- 29:08now left it on for three, five, seven days?
- 29:12Acne, a pimple. Acne, pimple, and nasty bacteria.
- 29:16So I do not want overuse, trapping in that bacteria for too long.
- 29:22And now we're dealing with a separate situation, not just the acne,
- 29:25but other gunky germs and infection.
- 29:27Again, more harm than good. Right. So we do want to just make sure we're changing them.
- 29:31If you see that that same bright star has been on for three days,
- 29:35that's too long. Take it off.
- 29:36So one day probably. Yeah. I think it says like everyone's different,
- 29:40but like 12 hour time frame.
- 29:41A lot of times we'll have them do it at night, take it off in the morning so
- 29:45it does its work at night.
- 29:47And then if they want to use some of the translucent ones for the daytime,
- 29:50first thing when they wake up and take it off before they go to bed.
- 29:54What about lemon juice as a spot treatment? I know. Highly acidic,
- 29:57can burn, irritate. Also.
- 30:00Bad idea. Bad idea. I used to use lemons to place in my hair and go out of the sun to bleach it.
- 30:06We did do that, yes. So what do you think the lemons are going to do to your skin?
- 30:10Probably take something off of it that shouldn't be taken off.
- 30:13Some of the patients can actually get hyperpigmentation, meaning darker spots
- 30:17where the lemon has touched the face.
- 30:20So last thing your team wants is let's trade polka dot dark spots for acne pimples
- 30:26um no okay don't don't don't know let me use the spot treatment do it yourself
- 30:30scrubs with sugar and coffee grounds yeah do it yourself anything is a no-no
- 30:35just say no to do it yourself.
- 30:40Hydrocoilic coiloid bandages 24 7 right so those are the ones that we talked
- 30:44about please don't overuse those little acne pimple patches.
- 30:48Those need to just be used on a limited basis.
- 30:51Okay, so we covered that. So they're also called hydrocoiline patches,
- 30:55but the little stars, they look so cute. They look so cute. Heart stars, everything.
- 30:59Okay, so what about raw egg masks? Oh my gosh.
- 31:03Raw eggs. I love this trend toward very natural type products,
- 31:09but I hate the trends. The answer is no, but yes, eggs are very natural.
- 31:14They are not meant to be covered all over our face. If you recall,
- 31:18when you were little, your mom would say, don't eat the raw egg yolk because
- 31:23of the risk of salmonella.
- 31:25And bird flu now too, but still salmonella is the main risk.
- 31:28It's the main one, and I know it's probably rare, but just a little bit of that
- 31:32raw egg slips into your mouth and you just don't know. So there is no data on
- 31:36raw eggs applying it to your face to help with acne.
- 31:42What about, do you think that trendy skincare ingredients are being overused?
- 31:47We talked about slugging.
- 31:48We talked about excessive chemical exfoliation, right?
- 31:52What about do-it-yourself apple cider vinegar toner? Right. So do-it-yourself anything.
- 31:58It's a no. Everyone's skin is different. We don't want to overstrip the good things from our skin.
- 32:03And basically, to convince your teenager, just tell them you're actually weakening
- 32:10your skin by using some of these products instead of strengthening.
- 32:15More is not always best. And so stay away from apple cider vinegar toner.
- 32:21Is that a product or some kids just putting that on their face?
- 32:23I can't keep up with all of the creations that the kids have.
- 32:27In fact, my patients teach me so many things every day. I'm like,
- 32:30oh, I got to add that one to the list.
- 32:32Oh, what is the snail mucin is one of the ones that is being talked about a
- 32:37lot right now. It's literally like sludge from the snail.
- 32:41You know the little goop they leave behind? Yeah, there's formulated versions
- 32:44of that that people are putting on their face.
- 32:46Not necessarily for acne, more for just facial rejuvenation.
- 32:49But again, the concept is, as long as we're moisturizing.
- 32:54I'm okay, but we don't need to take it to the extent of some of these very pricey,
- 33:00expensive things when we have wonderful moisturization options out there in
- 33:06forms that we know work and will not cause problems.
- 33:10And that's good. You hear so many things about apple cider vinegar being so
- 33:14great for so much, but don't put it on your face. Exactly.
- 33:18And so keep in mind that it's important for our pediatric practitioner listeners
- 33:24and for parents to know that they already know this, but social media is not a dermatologist.
- 33:30But our kids may not know that. And a lot of people may not know that. Right.
- 33:35And, you know, social media is not Dr. Google.
- 33:40And we have gone as dermatologists through lots of years of training.
- 33:46In fact, you as the parent, after listening to this podcast,
- 33:51may actually be more qualified to help with your child's acne than social media
- 33:57is. so you can have them reference.
- 34:00Have your kids listen to our podcast. How about that? What do you think? I love it.
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- 34:28I'm Holly Wayment. I hope you can join us for our next episode.