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The Dark Knight Rises part 3 · Cuff’s Basement

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  Speaker 2: he's a German jerk. Welcome back. We are talking about.
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  Speaker 1: The Dark Knight risis. Oh not a great sign.
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  Speaker 2: So where did we leave off? You wanted to talk
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  Speaker 2: about your favorite be in line.
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  Speaker 1: So we're at Degas Play and he's frustrated about the
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  Speaker 1: situation how Batman seized the object that he was holding
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  Speaker 1: against Lena Kyle and also like, weren't we funding Baine's activities,
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  Speaker 1: like what is going on? He like, why didn't Baine's
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  Speaker 1: goon stop him? And then he's like and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: he's like where is Baine? He's like this, here's name
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  Speaker 1: the devil per Yeah, and I just love this moment
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  Speaker 1: is so bizarre. So he's like comes up and he's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: then this the assistant is their striver and he's like,
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  Speaker 1: go where and he just leaves and then he's like.
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  Speaker 3: What.
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  Speaker 1: He makes some comment about how like things aren't happen
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  Speaker 1: the way we want to whatever, and then he just
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  Speaker 1: puts his hand on his shoulder and he's like, were
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  Speaker 1: we paid you a small fortion? I gives you power
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  Speaker 1: over me? And it's like and he just slowly stets
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  Speaker 1: grazing his face and then like he just i'll describe
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  Speaker 1: it best crushes his head. And you don't see it
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  Speaker 1: and think it's great. I think it's so insane.
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  Speaker 2: I think, like, you know how some of your friends
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  Speaker 2: that if they they would hate a clone of themselves. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think that Baine and the Joker would be buddies
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  Speaker 2: in a lot of ways. They would hate each other
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  Speaker 2: and probably try to kill each other, but that this
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  Speaker 2: guy is a schemer. Uh and Bane sees that and
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  Speaker 2: he does not like this.
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  Speaker 1: Both of these Joker and Bain see leeches a mile
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  Speaker 1: away and they're like, you are actually worse than me,
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  Speaker 1: so like I need to just destroy you. But also
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty awful, But I just I like this moment
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  Speaker 1: because like they they very rarely give Bane like great
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  Speaker 1: villain moments really, but like the Joker has so many
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  Speaker 1: just like niche moments that are so wonderful, and this
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  Speaker 1: is when they just lay up. We're like Daggon is
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  Speaker 1: a piece of garbage, and like why does Bane tolerate him?
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  Speaker 1: And I just love how it just starts from like
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  Speaker 1: my hand on your shoulder and just graze your face
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  Speaker 1: and Daggon is so fucking scared of like why is
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  Speaker 1: this person?
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  Speaker 2: Well, Daggon's getting in his face and he's like, I
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  Speaker 2: paid you all this money and you didn't fill up
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  Speaker 2: your end of the bargain, and I'm like, what are
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  Speaker 2: you doing?
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  Speaker 1: Well, this is a huge mistake.
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  Speaker 2: It's like yelling like if you've gotten a rhino's face that.
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  Speaker 1: Started screaming exactly, And he's like, so this is the
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  Speaker 1: only bottom of our plan and he's like so like
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  Speaker 1: you do. He's like, he probably tells him, like, you
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  Speaker 1: did your part, so I need to kill you now.
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  Speaker 1: And it's I think a great scene.
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  Speaker 2: Uh Marion Courtyard. Miranda Tate goes to Bruce's house and
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  Speaker 2: Bruce is like, yeah, I still have the house, but
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  Speaker 2: they turned the power off and great rich joke with
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  Speaker 2: a lock. Great, yeah, yeah, I explain that.
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  Speaker 1: She's like, can you get and he's like, I've never
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  Speaker 1: had to use a key my entire life.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have one, Like yeah, But they do get
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  Speaker 2: in the house and this a fire and they fuck.
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  Speaker 1: They connect emotionally.
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  Speaker 2: Physically it looks great. They're both very good looking people.
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  Speaker 2: And speaking of people Bruce wants to have sex with,
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  Speaker 2: he meets up a catwoman.
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  Speaker 1: Who oh wait, we've we've skipped over one thing that's
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  Speaker 1: infuriating he is. She's uncovering a lot of the stuff
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  Speaker 1: since Alfred left were covered in like like sheets and
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  Speaker 1: blankets whatever. And one of them is a picture of Rachel.
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  Speaker 1: It's a picture of Rachel at the dinner scene with
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  Speaker 1: her and Harvey Dent from The Dark Knight. I'm like, Bruce,
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  Speaker 1: did you have a fucking phone out?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't. In theory I didn't realize it was from
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  Speaker 2: that scene.
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  Speaker 1: Fucking infury that actually it happens in so many movies.
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  Speaker 2: We're liked, here's the picture.
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  Speaker 1: It's not it's not their fault. It's movies in the
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  Speaker 1: universe's fault. Where like everyone's like, hey, how are reminded
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  Speaker 1: of this personal Let me take you let me s like,
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  Speaker 1: let me show you a photo the person that never
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  Speaker 1: existed U Andiana Jones everything.
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  Speaker 2: Yeahs even from a scene in a prior movie where
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  Speaker 2: no one had a camera.
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  Speaker 1: And then here's the crazy part, like Goodfellas, what a shock.
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  Speaker 1: You have a lot of things. They have shots of
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  Speaker 1: Henry with like de Niro and also like Joe Pasty's
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  Speaker 1: character is Tommy, and it's like they're like actual polaroids,
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  Speaker 1: like he's holding them and it's like at a first
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  Speaker 1: like a kid's first birthday party. Yeah, they're just wonderful. Mike.
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  Speaker 1: You guys can't even like fake that. We can't photoshop that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like why why are you get a different background?
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  Speaker 2: Nobody even notice exactly like a different color.
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  Speaker 1: It's so deranged to me. I don't get it at all.
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  Speaker 2: I agree. So she's so Batman goes under and into
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  Speaker 2: the sewers with Catwoman and she's she's like, I know
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  Speaker 2: where you can find Bane.
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  Speaker 1: Got shocked by the way of her sitting with the
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  Speaker 1: trains going by a plus moment.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even remember that.
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  Speaker 1: When she when he walks into the train and she's
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  Speaker 1: like sitting there and she's in the beam between the trains,
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  Speaker 1: and she was like, didn't think you'd show up.
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  Speaker 2: And he says, she says, didn't think you'd shown me.
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  Speaker 2: She says, didn't think you'd show And then you hear
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  Speaker 2: Batman say I'm your uncle Berry. Uh. So she's explaining
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  Speaker 2: right what.
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  Speaker 1: The director's cut with the commentary by George P. Cost mottos, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it by myself.
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  Speaker 2: I think so. In Kingdom of Heaven, right.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Kurk Russell directed most of that movie.
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  Speaker 2: I got recommended a video the other day and it
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  Speaker 2: was some film nerds like own personal YouTube channel, and
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  Speaker 2: it was about Kingdom of Heaven, and I clicked on
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  Speaker 2: it and it began like, I think Kingdom of Heaven
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  Speaker 2: is the most on dursion movie of all time, and
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  Speaker 2: I just x out.
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  Speaker 1: We're winning.
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  Speaker 2: So Calm explains, these guys are not your average brawlers,
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  Speaker 2: and Batman says, neither am I. So I thought, I
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  Speaker 2: love love this scene.
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  Speaker 1: This is a great montage, is so awesome.
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  Speaker 2: And so basically there's like they're in the sewers and
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  Speaker 2: there's this it's very video gaming, but I don't care.
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  Speaker 2: There's this bridge, this pedestrian bridge, because everybody knows sewers
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  Speaker 2: are filled with pedestrian bridges, and Batman like, what.
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  Speaker 1: Are you surprised there? Yeah the question.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, yes, they kind of are there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So he walks into this pedestrian bridge and then Catwoman
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  Speaker 2: closes a gate behind him, so he's locked in and
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  Speaker 2: he's trapped in this bridge. And then he turned so
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  Speaker 2: he realizes, oh, Catwoman just betrayed me. So he says,
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  Speaker 2: you've made a serious mistake. Then you hear not as
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  Speaker 2: serious as yours. I fear.
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  Speaker 1: We mean, I'm sorry. Can we cut back to one moment?
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  Speaker 2: No, we can't cover every sentence of this movie. You
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  Speaker 2: realize we're already in birth three.
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  Speaker 1: This this movie deserves it.
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  Speaker 2: You keep shitting on it.
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  Speaker 1: I love this movie. To go back before this, there's
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  Speaker 1: a moment where Bruce Wayne in real life goes to
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  Speaker 1: s Kyle's place, and he's like, hey, I just need
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  Speaker 1: to confirm, like you live here, and also like I
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  Speaker 1: now have nothing. It's like, what do I do?
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  Speaker 2: We already talked about this scene. Yeah, because she says, oh,
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  Speaker 2: so the original did you lost everything? And he goes, no,
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  Speaker 2: I still have in my house and then she says,
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  Speaker 2: so the original poor as the rest of us.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry you lost all your money. He goes, no,
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  Speaker 1: you're not. H Yeah, hey, everyone, this is the end
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  Speaker 1: of the episode.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks everyone so much. Well, we didn't say that specific lines,
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  Speaker 2: but we did. Sorry, sorry, go ahead. So then he
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  Speaker 2: says Sabaine says, let's not stand on ceremony, mister Wayne,
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  Speaker 2: and then it cuts the catwoman and she seems fucking
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  Speaker 2: shocked that batman is Bruce Wayne, and I'm like, really, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because she wouldn't tend to be shocked in the scene,
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  Speaker 2: because why would you pretend? And uh, he has the
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  Speaker 2: the famous famous line victory, how's Jaffrieder? Meaning Okay, every
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  Speaker 2: fucking guy you ever fought in the last ten years
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  Speaker 2: is going to lose in a fistfight to you. And
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  Speaker 2: he says basically like you're you're you've gone soft because
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  Speaker 2: of your assumption of victory in all the conflicts you
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  Speaker 2: get in. And what I think is so great about
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  Speaker 2: Baine is he just flat out loses this fight to Bain.
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  Speaker 1: They cut the music. It looks so good. It's phenomenal.
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  Speaker 1: This whole scene is great.
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  Speaker 2: Batman is doing all his Batman Ninja karate and.
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  Speaker 1: Thatches the fist and he says, nothing is great.
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  Speaker 2: Batman is going like good, good, good good, punching Baine
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  Speaker 2: over and over again. Then Bain will just like take
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  Speaker 2: ten shots that unfaze him and then just grab Batman.
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  Speaker 1: And deliver three that murder him.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and uh, he says something. He's like, he says, uh,
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  Speaker 2: what does he say? He's like the Act for Countering
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  Speaker 2: and Deception of the Uninitially you.
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  Speaker 1: Can tell as a viewer because you've loved these movies
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  Speaker 1: the past two movies. Badman gets desperate and throws the
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  Speaker 1: smoke bomb things and literally two of them hit Bane's
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  Speaker 1: chest and he does nothing.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't even blink in the fact there's smoke bombs
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  Speaker 2: going off.
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  Speaker 1: Because he knows it's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: It's like a child if if if you were going
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  Speaker 2: to fight an eight year old and then the eight
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  Speaker 2: year old threw those little like those little like rolled
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  Speaker 2: up fireworks that you throw on the ground and they pop,
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  Speaker 2: and he threw them at your feet. You would just
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: be like, what, I love party papers.
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  Speaker 4: And he said, uh, you fight like a younger man,
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  Speaker 4: nothing held back. Admirable but mistaken.
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  Speaker 2: And uh so he's Batman is fighting like he's in
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  Speaker 2: his physical because the thing about boxing, they always say
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  Speaker 2: style makes styles make fights, but also like you can
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  Speaker 2: be a really smart ring technician that knows how to
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  Speaker 2: bait your opponent into fighting the way you want to fight,
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  Speaker 2: and Batman's not doing that. He's just going straight at
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  Speaker 2: him like, oh, I'm just gonna beat him.
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  Speaker 1: Up, just desperately throw everything an at him.
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  Speaker 2: And then he's so desperate he uses his gadget to
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  Speaker 2: turn all the lights off, and Bain says, you.
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  Speaker 4: Think darkness is your ally, you mainly adopted the dark.
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  Speaker 2: I was born in it. I will show you where
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  Speaker 2: I made my home. Then I will break you. And
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  Speaker 2: he he's punching Batman in the face over and over
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  Speaker 2: again to the point where his is armored.
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  Speaker 1: It looks so good.
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  Speaker 2: His armored helmet is breaking.
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  Speaker 1: It looks so good.
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  Speaker 2: It looks so good. So Bruce's face is like covered
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  Speaker 2: in blood. He's breaking his helmet, and then you know,
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  Speaker 2: like there's certain steps where you think, oh no, the
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  Speaker 2: hero's in trouble. But if you cross a certain line,
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  Speaker 2: like if Bruce gott his leg cut off, you'd be like,
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  Speaker 2: there's no returning from this. So during this scene, he's
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  Speaker 2: getting he's losing the fight. And then the ceiling blows
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  Speaker 2: open and all of Batman's armory falls into the sewer.
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  Speaker 1: They realized they were Underwayne Tech the entire time.
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  Speaker 2: Yes good, and Bain is like, we stole your entire army.
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  Speaker 1: I have always been ahead of you. It's not even
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  Speaker 1: a matter of like.
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  Speaker 2: So now he has an army of batmobiles. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: all of the other gadgets except for the bat the plane.
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  Speaker 2: He has all the gadgets the Batman's ever used. He
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  Speaker 2: has like ten of them. He's going to distribute to
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  Speaker 2: his his thugs.
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  Speaker 4: And he says, I was wondering what would break first,
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  Speaker 4: your spirit or your body.
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  Speaker 2: And he does the famous pro wrestling of where he
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  Speaker 2: lifts Batman up in the air and he delivers a
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  Speaker 2: backbreaker where he breaks his spine over his knee and.
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  Speaker 1: Actually it actually fades out for the first time ever
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  Speaker 1: in this entire series. Yes, what do you think of
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  Speaker 1: this as a viewer? What do you how do you feel.
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  Speaker 2: About this in terms of what specifically about this?
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  Speaker 1: Bruce's spirit is already broken. So I always feel like,
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  Speaker 1: well I would.
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  Speaker 2: Say I would know you Bruce's spirit is never completely broken.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's it's it's it never because he's reprogrammed himself
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  Speaker 1: since they reproven he is meant to be this. But
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  Speaker 1: I feel like with Bruce's like choice, like I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to like stop because Rachel passed away and then crime
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  Speaker 1: was somewhat alleviated, and then like the idea is like that,
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  Speaker 1: like atrophy of his life got so how this guy best,
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  Speaker 1: like it became so prominent that, like Baine is getting
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  Speaker 1: Bruce had a weaker spot even though he has like
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  Speaker 1: that knee contraption.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's also he's beat to shit. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I always felt like the amazing is maybe like Bruce,
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  Speaker 1: like so like after the Dark Knight, like Bruce is
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  Speaker 1: accused of the three two or three murders of Worts,
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  Speaker 1: a corrupt cup and a gangster and whoever else, and
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  Speaker 1: the idea is like that Bruce keeps going. Bruce realizes like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: like I have to, like the only way this stuff
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  Speaker 1: stays maintained because we talked about it earlier, like after
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  Speaker 1: it begins in the dark Knight Gotham seems to get
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  Speaker 1: worse if I keep going, there's some equilibrium here, And
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  Speaker 1: I wonder I'm always curious about, like if he stayed
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  Speaker 1: being Batman even though like crime somewhat rescinded and like
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  Speaker 1: being breaks him. Here is that break bigger? Where like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: even when you are like pinned with murders and everyone
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  Speaker 1: hated you and your hands were extra money, would this
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  Speaker 1: break count more? I know, just what do you like
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  Speaker 1: I'm describe it?
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  Speaker 2: But like, well, I think that he stopped being Batman.
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  Speaker 2: I understand because the racial thing, but like also because
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  Speaker 2: it would be impossible to be Batman because he would
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  Speaker 2: be so hunted all the time.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, oh so, and.
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  Speaker 2: It would hinder like all criminal investigations. So I think
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  Speaker 2: it would be more impactful if this story were to
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  Speaker 2: happen to a prime Batman, because he's not in his prime.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but then but then he hasn't been Batman for
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  Speaker 1: so long.
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  Speaker 2: I think I feel like it's That's why I think
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  Speaker 2: it would be more impactful if he was in his prime.
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  Speaker 2: He's he's he has a ring rust they call it
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  Speaker 2: in boxing, whereas like you can train all day, but
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  Speaker 2: being a real fight is different than training. So if
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  Speaker 2: you have ring rust, that can seriously affect you something.
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  Speaker 2: And he so we we don't see where Bruce goes. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Selena is basically like Catwoman is the most street smart
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  Speaker 2: character in this entire trilogy, So like.
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  Speaker 1: We should mention like when she screws him over, they
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  Speaker 1: cut back you like three times and then she's like,
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  Speaker 1: oh fuck, I never thought it would go this far.
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  Speaker 2: Well, what does she think was gonna happen? That they
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  Speaker 2: were gonna not kill him? I agree like that just
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  Speaker 2: and she says, I did this because they were constantly
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  Speaker 2: trying to kill me, like the League of Shadows was
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  Speaker 2: constantly trying to kill me, and as good as I am, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: one day they're gonna do it. So she was like,
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  Speaker 2: they promised the would leave me alone if I did this, And.
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  Speaker 1: She s the airport and Blake follows her.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Blake follows her.
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  Speaker 1: Great little scene here, Yeah, well why is it little
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  Speaker 1: scene when she realizes that like the people are following
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  Speaker 1: her and she goes to the emergency exit. Did she
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  Speaker 1: run that big hat?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: And he's like, may I need your d show? Okay? Fine?
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  Speaker 1: She like, can you hold this hat? And she punches
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  Speaker 1: the guy for the hat. Yes. Then Blake gets her
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  Speaker 1: before she gets the plane, and Blake's like.
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  Speaker 2: She said Blake. Blake knows and says did they kill him?
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  Speaker 2: And she responds, I'm not sure, but.
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  Speaker 1: I like too. Is that Blake is going through the
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  Speaker 1: formalities at first, and then he says that I like
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  Speaker 1: that a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, because they both know what's really going on.
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  Speaker 2: So now Bruce is in a prison and Bain says,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: you don't figure death, you welcome it.
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  Speaker 4: Your punishment must be more severe torture, but not of
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  Speaker 4: your body, of your soul, and he basically is explaining
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  Speaker 4: the biggest torture is whole because this prison is built.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know what country this is in, so I
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: don't know how they transported him there. But there's a
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: prison built in in a hole in the desert. It's
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: an underground prison and all the cells are there, and
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: in the ceiling of the prison there is a tunnel
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: to escape, a tunnel going up where you constantly see
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: the sunlight. And what Bain is saying as that hope
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: is torture. Because hope is false, then you're doomed. And
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: you'd rather be in a prison completely underground with no
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: possibility of escape than a prison where you think. So
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: you're telling me there's a chance, you know what I.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Mean, It's more torturous to see the light in the
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: way out.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And he says basically, he's like, I'm going to
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Your back is broken, you can't move, You're laying in
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: this bed. I have a prison, I have a television
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: facing you. You're going to lay in this prison. And
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: watched me destroy Gotham nuclear vombit And he says, and
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: why don't you just dumb when Gotham is Ashras.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: Then you have my permission to die Gray line.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Now this is the football stadium.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Afterwards, before this, we see Selena going to blacka prison.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. She gets arrested at the airport and send a
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Blackade prison with men. She breaks that guy's hands. They go,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: you can't put a woman in here, and they said, dudo,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: like overcrowding or whatever. She's going in Black eight and
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: some dude tries to grab her and she breaks his
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: handsome fingers and then the guard says she's gonna be fine.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: It was the whole idea too, like the idea of
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: like the Dent Act was like over correcting.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, like the Patriot Act.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Say that Dark Knight, Sorry, go back to the Dark Knight.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we already, we did that one already. So then.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Bain takes over the board at Wayne mannor I'm sorry
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Wayne Enterprises.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Um, yes, yeah, any.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Board members to sign off on the fusion reactor or
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: is it to initiate the future reactor?
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So Bain shows up to a board meeting of
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Wayne Enterprises and Lucius is like, this is not good.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I really enjoyed. There's a I can't remember when, but
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: I just wrote this down. There's a moment where there
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: is an explosion like in Bain's presence, and he doesn't
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: react at all. He doesn't blink, he doesn't flinch, He
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: just it's fine. But they take so they take the
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: board members hostage and they say we're going to turn
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: on the reactor and he points a gun at Lucius
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: and says turn the reactor on or I will kill you.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Lucius knows doing this will basically nuke your bomb Gotham City.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: So Lucius says, like, kill me, I'm not going to
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: do it.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, great moment of respect, honestly, and.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Then Miranda Tates says, Lucius, this is stupid. I'll arm
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: it because he's gonna kill us all if we don't.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: She's not wrong in that moment.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: She's not wrong.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: This has the best baneline of all time. What with
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: doctor Pavel there.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: I thought it was thank you, it was I'm sorry.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I'm actuallying this about thirty thousand great band lines. She
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: just peeks, puts in and says.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Do your work.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I love that so much.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Now we get to the football stadium scene. This was
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: filmed at the Pittsburgh Steelers stadium. The Steelers players are
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Gotham players, so unfortunately Ben rapeless berger throwing picks and
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: assault and chicks. He has been accused of sexual assault
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: multiple times. He got suspended by the NFL four games
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: because he was repeatedly accused of sexual assault. Why that's
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: worth mentioning. It was the same amount of games that
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Tom Brady was suspended for for allegedly deflating footballs. It
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: was also for four games. Is more than Ray Rice
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: was initially suspended for knocking out his girlfriend unconscious. So yeah,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: heinz Ward, who's a Steelers player maybe a Hall of Famer,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: is in a very very famous shot where he's catching
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: a touchdown pass and behind him as he's running into
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: the end zone, the stadium implodes under itself.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: He also got an action figure for this movie.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what's his character name? Gotham Rogues player, Gotham Rooks player.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: All right, so yeah, why don't you explain this this
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: scene and with all the cops in the tunnels, I
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: don't remember.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I agree, So Gotham Rose, you're playing Rapid City.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Thanks for telling us those two fictional team names.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: The Rapid City is really good actually this year. So
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: the cops I understanding that Bane has been based on
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: the Sewers. They're going to quote unquote and Dave the Sewers,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: and then.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Sorry, Ban's wearing an awesome coat. O. Dude, Shannon actually
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: asked me for your band costume. Did you try to
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: get that coat? And I said I did, but it
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: was like four hundred dollars.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Just like it's just like the next like, oh, they
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: were not questioning a thing moment.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: It's like if you combined a bomber jacket with like
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: a duster. It's really weird, but.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: It's just so it's I'm like this, this fits so right.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: It looks warm.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: So the cops going to the sewers to like find
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: and it's like three thousand cops.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: And then.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: The game's got to start. This is the famous Triller moment.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: The kid starts to sing being has the famous line.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Love yeah little boy singing a little weird comment, Hey boss,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: I got you this jacket. Oh fucking this jacket is
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: very cool.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: There's leaves.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: But I feel like stefan er call in this joker.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: If you're if you're like, what's his name? I guy
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: that can't like a gooon of him? You're like, what
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: is this? What is this thing? I used to work
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: with the Joker in this fucking eye here, Like what
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: he's work with you?
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: Sinc.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so what happened to the Joker? By the way,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: shut up, shut up.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Don't talk about it. Oh but no, so while he's
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: while this is happening.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: The we don't talk about Bruno.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Turns out they have been lining the cement to make
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: cement bombs.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so the cement used to like build. The stadium
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: is lined.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: With same seems to be established for quite some time. Yeah,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know, so the stadium implos and exposed at
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: the same time. There's also some truly incredible shots of
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: sewers blowing up, bridges blowing up. It looks amazing.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because Gotham, apparently, like Manhattan, is an island. Yeah,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: so if all the bridges blow up, you can't leave.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: So as they blow up, Tim was mentioning hines Ward
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: is running. The field deteriorates as he runs through, and
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: he's like the only survivor. And then they cut to
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: the first time ever in this entire franchise, the government,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: like national government watching what's happening.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Also the mayor Nestor Carbonell. Alright, he blows up.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: But the government general guy with the thick eyebrows.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: I was like, I thought he was supposed to be
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: the president now, so.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: They show the President wants on TV when Bruce is
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: watching it. Okay, the guy with like the decorated like
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: military stuff looks so much like the guy from The
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Incredibles who like is the handler of Bob. I was like, wait,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: is the wait? Is this the same universe?
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: So bame after it's astroid comes out and he displays
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: doctor Povel and he's like, uh, what is this and
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: explains the nuclear reactor Doctor Povel, and he's like, who
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: is the only person who can.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was the only person on earth who can
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: disarm this nuclear bomb. Doctor Povel says me.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, and Bain cracks his neck in public. The crowd
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: reaction is unreal kills him. So Bain is like, Okay,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: that's how it's gonna be, and he explains that this
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: bomb that demands designed is gonna be traveling around town.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: There's one person in golfing moves the triggerman. You will
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: never know who they are, but excuse me, that's how
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: And yeah, we're gonna there that we have this bomb.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Nobody knows who holds the trigger, but yeah, it's a
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: citizen that holds the trigger.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Excuse me, that's a gasp of that count?
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think that counts. You're you're already a
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: plus two. But so, why is Joseph Gordon Levitt not
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: in the tunnels with all the other cups.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: When they were going down. He became a detective. She's
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: not a patrolman. He doesn't have to do it. Technically,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I thought, I thought again, not super explained. But as
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: you said, movie, who cares?
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: He said? He says, they were like, hey, Blake, come
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: to the tunnels with us, and he goes, hold on, fellows,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna enjoy a cool, refreshing Mulboro cigarette. He looks
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: right at the camera and winks, do you guys on
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: the state side made serf side, which.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Is ice Team vodka and a can.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: No shits delicious? Who cares about this activity in the town?
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Band explains, we are liberators. We are like he mentions,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: I like this line again, this is very Occupy Wall
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Street relevant. Now he says, we're here to do something
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: about the myth of opportunity, this whole idea, which it
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: feels very true now that any American can pull themselves
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: up from their bootstraps. And it's kind of fitting because
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Bruce Wayne was not a bootstrap. Guys, Bruce Wayne was
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: born a billionaire. Yes, and he's had he now has
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: his arsenal, So he has tumblers patrolling the streets keeping
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: ball in line, and all the bridges are blown up,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: so they're all trapped here with the nuclear bomb and
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: another actor out of the ether, Bunny Colvin from the Wire.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: What is his name? Do you know? Is it Robert Coleman? Am? I,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: But I don't think it's Coleman because his last name
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: on the wire is Colvin, So that would just be
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: very odd coincidence, So I'm gonna google it. Bunny Colvin
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: is portrayed by actor Robert Wisdom. My bad, sorry, and
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: he is. He's basically like, so the Baand's henchmen say
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: to the army who are approaching the bridges. They're like,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: we're gonna help evaccivate hostages. And Band's henchmen say, no,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: you're not turn them away if they come here, And
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: the Army's like, why would we If people are trying
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: to escape the city, civilians, We're not gonna turn them away.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: We're gonna accept them. There's nothing you can do about that.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: And Baines's henchman says, if one person crosses these bridges,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: we're going to deatonate the nuclear bomb.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I hate how you say, bains henceman, because like, who
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: is it our favorite guy, Josh Stewart, Yeah, mustache coach guy,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: beautiful man.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And then pain goes into black eatee prison, releases
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: all the prisoners and gives every single one of them
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: a gun.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Is the eighth plus moment. This time movie this, this,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: this movie dunks a thousand times.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: He gives all every prisoner like an AK forty seven
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: as they're leaving the jail. How does that work? Yeah,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: that'd be such a bad idea.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: I love this moment so much, like you, you already
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: gave a absolute killer speech. Why did I give you one more?
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: It's so good?
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah? And uh, he says like he was. You know,
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Bain's talking about their plan.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: He says, courts will convene, spoils will be enjoyed, and we're.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Gonna get to the courts later, which are pretty great.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Good time. My favorite line of this whole speech what
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: just againing? And how good with performances and he shows
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: like a Gotham was yours and do as you please?
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: And it's just the hammlements of like this. It's he's
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: so great.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: I don't remember how. It doesn't matter how it's revealed,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: but the Bruce is in prison in the desert, and
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: he realizes the backstory of Bain is this mercenary had
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: a baby in the prison. This woman had a baby
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: in the prison, and the baby was raised in the
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: prison and tortured and eventually escaped the prison. And the
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: baby that escaped the eventually escaped the prison was Baine,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: but it's revealed that raychel Ghoul was Bain's father. He
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: was a mercenary that impregnated a woman who gave birth
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: in this prison.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I don't like your blatant disrespective prisoner. Who is the
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: character's name? Who is the old guy with the white
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: hair and the.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Beach, No, his name is blind prisoner barely talks.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: The other prisoner who's like Bruce's helper.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Oh that guy.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's played by Tom Knty. So Tom Kunti
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: was Albert Einstein and Oppenheimer. Oh, he's also in a
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: great prison movie called Merry Christmas, Mister Lawrence with David Bowie.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: It's awesome. Check it out.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Never heard of it.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: You should see. It's great. But uh, this uh anonymous
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: prisoner is the best character. Miste in my.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Opinion, you're not wrong. And he's very helpful and like
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: so kind, so wonderful normal. I don't know why he's there.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: It's actually scary.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: He's Oh, I'm a child rapist. By the way, I
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: love to eat people. Oh ship, So Bruce keeps he
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: basically like long story short, Bruce's back is broken through
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: sheer willpower, he he's trying to get better. He befriends
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: this guy in prison who used to be the prison doctor.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: He starts hanging from a rope from the ceiling. He
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: slowly fixes his back, he starts to walk again, and
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: then he's just constantly working out. So through his constantly
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: working out, he's like, I'm going to be the second
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: person ever who climbed up this tunnel in the ceiling.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Baine did it when he was a child, I'm gonna
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: do it again. And he keeps tying a rope to
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: himself and then trying to escape the tunnel in the ceiling,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: and he keeps falling and the rope catches him, but
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: he does not make it, and he keeps doing it
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: over and over.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: This is why I find this movie frustrating. Why we
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: don't have enough time to make us want to us
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: as viewers want to get out of the prison. We
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: just don't. I just don't. I just don't feel like
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: they need to escape.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: If not there, it doesn't seem that bad.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: That's the problem. Like you meet this wonderfully from the guy, Yeah,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: who's kind of great. And I'm like, my theory always
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: has been like I know you can't to this in movies.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: You probably can't, and like there's a lot of defendable reasons,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: like once we get to the prison, we should probably
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: stay there because it would make us as viewers want
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: to get out. Then we get out, we see what
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Gothain has become. I just don't get why we cut
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: back and forth. I just don't get it.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I don't love the Bane score too, that it's like
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: it's like chanting. It's like.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I think it's I like it because I think the
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: idea is like it's meant to be signifying of like
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: this is something different. Again, the whole point of this
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: movie is to signify you're different. But it's amazing how
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: it melts into the score from Batman Begins. I'm very
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: surprised watching this entire trilogy, how much Begins pours into
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: so much stuff.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: But go ahead, I think blind prisoner tells him, he says,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: here's the thing. You do. Not fear death to Bruce
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: and not fearing death to most men's concept of masculinity
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: is like badass. But he says, fearing death does not
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: make you strong, it makes you weak.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: It makes you know the chances.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: And he says, do it as the child did it.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Do it as Bane did it when he escaped as
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: a child, which was without rope, meaning meaning there is
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: no room for error. If you fall, you are dead.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: You have to risk the failure to succeed.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, And Bruce tries it without a rope and he
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: falls on his ass and he fucking dies.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: The movie ends, well, I would be great, So he
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: does it without the rope and I love, I Love again.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: This is the Ryan Lucius lion from Batmangan Lucius. When
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Bruce does it. My question is this, Bruce is wearing
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: a rope around his entire waist. He falls down, shouldn't
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: that rebreak his back? In my opinion, yes, but you'd
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: be terribly injured. Yes, terribly injured. But also they do
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: a brilliant job of matching with a beautiful callback. But
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: when he cached, when when he comes down and wonderfully
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: kind President Einstein catches him or whatever doesn't catch him,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: but like is there waiting for him. It's like he's
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: like you told me a child could do it. It's like, yes,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: the child born in here. He's like not a man
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: from privilege, and I've never forgotten, never mind privilege my
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: entire life.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is one of your favorite moments when
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: he's in all three movies. Killian Murphy as doctor Crane
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: and the scarecrow appears again, and why don't you explain
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: this scene with him?
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: So before we do that, do you mind if we
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: show I think the most dark moment of this movie.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, So they show John Blake justin Gordon Levitt
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: and or underground in some like place I actually think
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: a kitchen called back Intended, and special forces in the
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: military show up and they're like, hey, we've been here.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: We're trying to help you guys out.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: And it's the guy from Rescue Me that's yeah, yeah.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Like we're trying to like help you guys out. What
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: do we do? And they explain this truck that's carrying
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: the new that the fusion reactor around it needs to
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: be stopped.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: If we don't stop it, it's.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Going to be gone in twenty three days, and the
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: people are like over confident. Fine, while they're over confident,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: they walk in to find the Before they go to
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: the courtroom, they are what do we say, they meet sorry,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: they meet Fox after and Fox confirms like, hey, this
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: truly is twenty three days and we're done. While they're there,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: they're shot, like people know who they.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Are, and then Daniel Sunjata, Yes, that's the guy from
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Rescue Me who plays this guy.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Yes, and then they're like the entire team is killed,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: and I love this Dame moment. It's very cold, but
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: he's like when the guy is shot, he walks over
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: to him and the guy's like, I will die before
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: I talk, and he just goes, uh, I'm on those schedule.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Cabinet just strangles.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah with his you know, he just like knees his throat.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: But then he goes hang them so everyone can see,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: and they show the news footage of them hanging. You're like,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: holy ship.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Like Bruce is motivated, but and.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Then it's worth pointing out. So we go back to
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: the prison and Bruce is quote unquote practicing. Bruce tries
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: again and.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: We already went over. We may have jumped ahead. Then yeah, no,
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: we're talking about Crane's trial. Sorry, okay, Scarecrow. So go
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: to the court for Striver who is burn Gormon, Well,
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: explain the court, like what are you talking?
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: So Bain says, we have no control here. You guys
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: decided control.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like we're giving it back to the people.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: The people are in charge. And then so they cut
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: back in this amazing set of like a thousand desks
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: like on top of each other or whatever.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: I love.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: It looks so good and they show it once before,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: very minimally. But Burne Gorman who is Striver, whose assistant Daggett,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: is on trial, and they're like, what are you paying
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: for your crimes? You hear the hammer and they cut
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: to Scarecrow paid by Killian Murphy, which is like the
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: best callback.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: At the entire our trilogy.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Yes, because of course, like in this chaos, why wouldn't
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: he probably why wouldn't this mushroom grow out of us?
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. Yeah.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: So he's like, you have to like pay for your crimes.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: He's like, I choose exile. You have to walk on
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: into the ice.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Well, they say you can choose exile or death, and
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: he chooses exile and they let you out onto the
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: frozen the frozen water between the mainland and the island
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: of Gotham.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: City, which no one has survived. But the weird thing
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: about that are saying the scene is the guard is
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: like the guard tries to help him. He's like, if
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: you stick to this, you'll be fine.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Like he says, stay on the thick ice. Yeah, basically like, well,
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: because he didn't choose death, he chose exiles. Yeah. I
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: don't know, but they're they're holding these kangaroo courts in
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: the ins drivers saying well, I know Baane, I'm friends
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: with Baane. And then Crane says, Bane is no jurisdiction here.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Also Baine is in the room. He says nothing, which
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: is great.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: I love this moment. Gordon goes to Matthew Modine's house
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: because Matthew Modine is his superior. It's it seems like
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: he's a police commissioner. Gordon's a police commission but anyways,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: and Modane's basically like, hey, Jim, we're under martial law,
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: like Baines goons are running the city. Let's wait till
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: the government can fix this. And this is just like
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: obviously symbolism. Gordon's like, we can't wait for the government
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: to fix something. We have to do it ourselves, which
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: is a lesson to everyone, right.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: I mean actually when Baine first takes over the entire city,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: when Gordon is driving around with Blake and he's like
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: he's like no, no, we're good, and Gordon's like, no, no,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: that means we're on our Yeah, like we're trusting the
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: great people Golf them to help us.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So there's a moment where these because it's anarchy,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: so these like street thugs are bullying this boy and
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: catwoman comes over and kicks their asses, and then you
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: hear pretty generous for a thief, and it cuts to
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Bruce Wayne is somehow back. I love that, Like, not
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: only is he back, he walked out of the desert,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: got a flight home, and then made it into the
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: island where like everyone is cut off. Yeah, they don't
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: explain that, but whatever, it's fine. And she's like, oh
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: my god, you're back, sorry about the betrayal stuff, and
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: he goes, it's cool.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: I think we skipped the major point. I'm sorry what
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: I think we skipped a major point, which is what
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: when Bruce attempts the failed run at the tunnel. I'm sorry.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: We already talked about this at length. At length, we
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: talked about this, he's escaped the prison he left, We've
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: moved on. This is why this is going to be
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: four parts. What was your point about the field attempt.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Though, scorn Harfielert. I love how it calls back to
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: his dad dropping down.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know that. I didn't know that.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: It's a visual thing. I was just calling out how
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: bad the visual callbacks were insulting in the beginning of
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: the movie. That's the one callback I'm like, Oh, I
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: get why they did this. When Bruce jumps down, I said.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: This, I'm sorry, No, you didn't talk about the score.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: I probably did. But whatever. When Bruce swallows and breaks,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: he does it twice, breaks his back. They don't care.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: He tries it again.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: I think he does it one more time.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: I think he does it three times.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Myron, they called back to that the first movie, when
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: it's dad repels down to help him. Yeah, and he
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: says why did he kiss Bruce? Whoa? And then Bruce says,
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: because you said it's.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Our because I need this. But I love that's a
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: good visual callback.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but again, I feel.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Like we show stayed in the prison the entire time.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think we should ever left in my opinion.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: But so the whole movie should have been in the prison.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: No, but I feel like we're good. Sorry.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Back in the island of Gotham, under Baines's siege, Joseph
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Gordon Levitt is attacked by the guy from Stargate SG one.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: What is his name?
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Can everyone stop this real quick?
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Go ahead?
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Tim made fun of me for knowing Stargate the movie,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: and you're calling on an actor from the Stargate TV show.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: We also forgot to mention Frederick Lane, the guy from
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: the opening scene in Men in Black, was in the
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Wall Street siege scene where he says, all your money
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: under your mattress is about to be worth much less.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: That's the guy from the opening scene of the Men
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: in Black was lost. Oh, you're right.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: He was the marshall with Kate.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Who is this guy? I'm trying to find him. Robert
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: Wisdom guy at the bridge. I'm getting close.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: If there's anybody here, please say this.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Noel googlammy. I believe it's from.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Training Day, Okay, uh oh, he was one of the
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: big guys.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Josh Stewart, your boys. His character's name is Barsad.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Great actor.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Oh man, what the fuck? Is this guy's name? Love?
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: I love that you pointed out it's from Starget SG one.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah no, but what is his name? I gotta look
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: this guy up. So Joseph Gorton Levitt is attacked by
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: mercenaries that work for a Bane and they're going to
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: kill him as they would because Joseph Gorton Levitt, essentially
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: in this like Siege world, is a terrorist and Batman
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: appears out of.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Well, we should explain that Gordon was sentenced by Scarecrow
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: to exile by death. Death by exile, I'm sorry, and
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: that's that's where Batman reappears and liked the signal.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true. And come on, man, it's okay,
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to I'm trying to open that the Stargate
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: SG one IMDb. Okay, his name is Christopher Judge and
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: he's more importantly than the start Stargate SG one the
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: voice of Kratos from God of War. Okay, that's what
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: he's most famous for. But yeah, any who, then, uh,
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: there's a bat symbol ignited on the bridge. So you
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: see this burn bat signal on the bridge, and it
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: shows Bain seeing it from a distance and he says impossible.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: So Batman's talking to Catwoman and he's like, Okay, this
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: is what I need you to do. Take my bat
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: motorcycle and blow open the barrier that's blocking the tunnel.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: She goes, okay, I'm gonna open the tunnel and then
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: I'm gone, and she said. He says, I think there's
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: more to you than that. I think there's more to
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: you than that. And she says, I'm sorry to keep
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: letting you down. Come with me. You don't know these people.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: You you don't want these people anything. You've given them
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: everything you have. And he says not everything, not yet,
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: which means his life, the trailer. Sorry, his life. He's
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: he's yep, now there's I mean, we might be jumping ahead,
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: but we probably needed to at this point. Well let's
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: let's talk about it.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know, we are not mean, we are not
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: atm ad.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: I think that we need to cover his failed attempt
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: to escape the prison.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: You just yelled at me for doing that.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: So Matthew Bodein is bad.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Fuck you McDonald's fuck you.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Do. So Matthew Odein is back, and all the cops escape.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Their character is a waste of time. Right fully is
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: a waste of time was he's a waste of time.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: We're sorry, you just said we're two fifty in it's
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: a waste of time. Well, we don't need him. What
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: is he representing?
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Describe that to me believing in something and.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: He believes in nothing, and describe what does he believe in?
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Well that's he changes his mind and he so the
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: police escape their imprisonment and they go to riot in
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: the streets and I thought, what a bad idea because
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: they don't know they have handguns. And then it shows
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: all the bands dudes to have tanks, machine guns.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: It's pretty like you're in the front lines.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: Over for you. Yeah, it's over for you. And he
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Modeen shows up in uniform and he says there's only
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: one police in this town. And then Batman shows up
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: and he blows up all the tumblers with his bat plane. Yeah,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: and I wrote like here, I'm I'm so happy to
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: see Batman in the daytime, because they don't do Batman
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: in the daytime in these.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Movies are very good. It's a great call out. Also
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: a great winter visual here.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, well so great point. I'll I'll
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: say in a second, I'll reference what this what this is,
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: But no, it's actually my next note. So this is
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: Gangs of New York.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: This scene, well, it's also I think this is very
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: based on Batman No Man's Land, which I mentioned earlier
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: about got Let's just say I didn't mention earlier.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: I butchered the naming.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: But Bob Gail, who wrote Back to the Future, wrote
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: a comic line, well, Batman No Man's Lam where someone
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: takes over Gotham.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is in the middle of the daytime,
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: in the middle of this town square, it's snowing, and
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: the cops decide they're gonna have a one on one
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: combat fight with all Baines goons. And in the midst
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: of this, Baine is on one side and Batman is
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: on the other side. And it just reminded me so
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: much of the opening scene of Gangs in New York.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's in essentially New York City, Gotham, it's snowing,
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: they're in the town square, and there are these two
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: guys who are dismantling these like average people that are
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: trying to fight them. Like some beat cop walks up
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: to Baye and is like punches them in the face
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: and Baine just like tears them into piece yea. Then
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: finally they meet each other on the battlefield and they
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: see each other and Batman just kind of starts to
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: fuck Bane up.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: That's why it is not great. I just don't think
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: it's great.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Why because the break in the back scheme is incredibly
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: This visually looks great. This is a little too like,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: I know, I know he's back, but it feels like
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Batman's upper hand is a little for me. Eis if
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: you are a little too strong.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: I think that Bain is in disbelief that Batman came
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: back from this, and also he because Bane never will
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: find out Ban never escaped from the prison, but he
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: never thought anybody'd be able to escape. But then also
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: it's like work smart, not hard. I think that Batman
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: is fighting way smarter, and he's attacking the mask and
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: fucking up the little pipe in the mask, so he
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: knows like, oh yeah, this is not gonna be good.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: And so he eventually defeats Bain and he says, tell
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: me where the trigger.
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: Is, then you have my permission to die.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Great callback.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: Great callback, Bain says, I broke you. How did your
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: escape Batman says Batman things, he goes you.
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: You think you're the only one that could ever.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: Escape, and Baine says I never did.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Escape, which props to him, makes him makes him very hardcore. Honestly,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I never got a black gay person. Sorry,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: I never got out of the pit.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Sorry, but wait a minute.
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: The child of Russ oh ghoul to escape.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: And then Miranda Tate Boom stabs Batman in the back
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: and says I'm the child of russo cool, And that
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: is where I think we should bring it to the
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: final part. Oh god, I have a lot of notes left.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: What part of going now?
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Sorry?
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: This is part three. I think I think this will
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: be a part four.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we'll see.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: But anyways, we're taking a break.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: Thanks everyone, Sorry for dealing with this. This is my fault.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Sorry guys, No, no, no.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: But before we go to the next part, I think
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: we should talk about his escape from the prison. Batman.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: Sure, so it looks visually great. It was in the trailer?
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Was that good? Sure? All right?
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Quick change here. This is originally going to be four parts,
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: and I think there's no reason to make it four parts,
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: So I'm actually going to make it three parts because
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: it doesn't deserve to be as long as the Dark
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: Knight podcast. It shouldn't have, so I'm making this three parts.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: So sorry for the introduction following this moment. Ay right, So,
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: how do you think the podcast series with the Dark
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: Knight trilogy is going so far?
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: I think it's going really good. I think that Batman
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: Begins when was really positive and fun and also like
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: a great discovery. The Dark Knight one was really a
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: confirmational one. This one, I think we're sinking the ship.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. Let's ask the rest of the crew.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: What do you think.
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: I think you both got way too intoxicated and planned
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: very fair inappropriately.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: This one is way too many parts. That's just one
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: man's opinion.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: Can you tell christ Morolan that, like your plot is
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: the reason why? Too not? It's it's our fault, but
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: it's still the plot it that way?
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: What about you? I'm just really glad I'm not a
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: part of this movie or discussion at all. All right,
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: that's kind of hurtful. What about you?
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: I think he did a great job and this is
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: very appropriately based and if anything, do you not have
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: enough parts?
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: Okay? All right, that's wow.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: No one, no one says that.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: All right, So tiebreaker right here. I think it's good.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: I think of anything.
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: I think that we should pursue into a little song.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, all righty okay, let's wrap this up. But it's
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: kind of hard when Christopher Chris Nolan makes this movie
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: four fucking hours. All right, So Miranda Tate just explained.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: She is the famous comic book character Talia. Talia is
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: the daughter of Rayshaw Ghoul Rogul. She is Liam Neeson's
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: daughter from the first movie. Oh we forgot to mention
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: that we did forgot to mention One thing in the
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: prison for for real is Bruce and his pain and
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: delusion has a vision of Liam Neeson visiting him.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, happy to see him again. This is very solid.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Why not? Yeah, And basically she says, you got the
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: story wrong, Liam Neeson. Rachelle Gould was my dad. He
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: knocked up my mom, my mom. My mom did go
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: to prison. My mom gave birth to me in the prison.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: My mom was murdered in the prison, and then Baine
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: protected me. And when I finally escaped, everyone in the
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: prison took down Bain and for like a split second,
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: they do a flashback where they show Tom Hardy's face.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: This is the only time they showed Tom Hardy's face.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: He's in the prison and he gets taken down.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Wonderful Lego shoows comes back to like relieve the prison. Yes,
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: it's too late for Bain. Then the Lego shadows reject him.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Yes to Tom Hardy's credit, Like, I know people hold
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: this against Bain as a character when she's telling this
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: story and he just slowly like leaves out like two
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: tears like this is like think he I think he's
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: great in this I really I think even this moment
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: is considered a moment of like emotional like severity. He's
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: so good in this.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: Yes, And there's a guy in this movie who plays
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: a cop who's in the show Dexter. I'm trying to
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: remember this guy's name, Desmond Harrington. He plays a cop
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: in this movie. So Joseph Gordon Levitt is.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Oh this guy, Yeah, I know what you're man.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: So Joseph Gordon Levitt gets all the boys from his
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: orphanage and he gets him on a bus with a
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: priest who runs the orphanage to try to get them
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: out of God. Yeah, So he approaches this guy from
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: Dexter and it's like, we're going to leave, and they
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: the guy says, you can't. Bains guys said, Bain's goons
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: said if you try to leave, they're going to detonate
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: the atomic bomb, so you cannot leave. And Joseph Gordon
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Levi is like, we have a bustle of kids. They
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: need to leave. I am going to walk across this
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: bridge and he says, if you come any further, we
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: will blow the bridge.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: This guy's pretty desperate, which I love. The is the
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: greatest over performance of all time.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, it's a tough situation. So so Talia,
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: I'll goole. Meanwhile, says to Bruce, you know what, we
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: have eleven minutes left before this nuclear bomb goes off,
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: and I'm just gonna detonate it now because fuck you.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: And she goes to press the button and Jim Gordon
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: had placed this device near the bomb.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: Well, she explains the eleven mess after it's like, you
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: guys prevented the detonation no matter what, the bomb is decaying,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: so it's.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: Gonna go yes, yeah, and uh it blocks the trigger.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: So she goes, all right, well you blocked the I
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: can't blow up the bomb now because you stopped it somehow,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: but it doesn't matter because it's gonna blow up in
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: eleven minutes. Matthew Modine dies at this point, he's in there.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah you don't care, which is fine. I don't really
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: care that much either. They're gonna shoot out the cops
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: and the criminals and he dies. So Talia says, like,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: I have to leave Batman. Is Bruce is dying? Ye, Baine,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: you stay with him and watch him, but do not
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: kill him. I want him to see this the fire.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: I want to feel the fire of millions of people
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: dying because he failed. And then as soon as she
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: walks out of the room, I respect this, he says.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: We both know I have to kill.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: You now, which is really great, a great moment.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: You can imagine the fire and he Vaine is going
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: to kill Bruce. When what happens.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: We see being get like blown back like twenty five feet.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: But zo could through the chest basically, and then.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: We see Catwoman, who's riding the backpod saying, hey man,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: this whole like no guns thing doesn't really work for me.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: It was a great moment.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, great moment. Yeah, So she had the opportunity to leave.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: Her goal was Bruce said, blow up the barrier under
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: the tunnel and then if you want to go, go,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: but please come back and help me. And she goes, no,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna come back and help me. I'm gonna
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: blow the barrier. Then I'm gonna go, and he's like, Okay,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: your call. So it turns out she did end up
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: coming back.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: But I also like to show you that they like
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: the levels of the ideals of like I will compromise
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: on this, but not on that.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, catwoman riding on the motorcycle is just completely badass.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: Looks great, looks great, kills it looks great. So Joseph
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: Gordon Levitt is walking across the bridge. He's like, me
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: and these kids are getting out of here, and then
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: they scream blow the bridge and they blow it up
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: in front of his feet. So there's no escape. Now, Yeah,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: you see, they're fucked. All is lost, There is no hope.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: So the priest gets the boys out of the bus
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: and he gets them in a circle on the ground
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: and they start to pray because they know they're going
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: to die because the nuclear bomb is going to go off.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: There's a countdown on the bomb that shows five minutes left,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: and Joseph Gordon Levitt says, let's get them back on
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: the bus. And the priest he's just trying it desperately
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: to do something. He is dying. And the priest goes stop, stop,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: there's nothing to do, there's nowhere to go. This is
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: an atomic bomb, and he says, let these kids feel
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: some hope before they die. So, even though it's in vain,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: I want them to die on a hole full positive
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: note hope, which is so fucked.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: Up, fucked up. But what's the famous line from Lost
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: Hope is a dangerous thing to lose.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: There's something deep inside that they can't get to, that
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: they can't touch. That's in shaw Shak redemption. What are
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: you talking about, hope?
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: The tanks shoot? He'd see he missiles at Bruce in
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: the batplane. I love that he loops the plane around
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: so the missiles then shoot the tanks.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: I thought that was great. Also amazing too the batplane
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: or the bat was like shot practically or like was
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: that a crane?
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: Really? Oh?
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: What looks incredible? It's not cgi they just putting on
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: a crane and just swung up.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: Who was I hope there was like a mannequin in there.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: There definitely was no one there in my opinion.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: But Okay, wow, wow, that's that's amazing. And I love
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: how studios will give them monday to do that. Where
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: how many years from now is there gonna be AI
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: is so good that they would just never ever.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: Do that zero. But the whole thing is you can
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: tell like I feel like you can truly tell it.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: It's like, like, I love did you know that bat?
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: I think this is so cool? Like I watched an
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: interview with like at the time, with Christopher Nolan. He
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: was talking about making the Dark Knight Rises and they
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: were like designing the bat and he was like, there
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: are the aliens, like the I think it's called the
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: APV the suit, So it's the armor personnel vehicle, which
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: is like the little vans that like the military showed
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: up on the colonies.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: I wanted to make that fly my entire life. And
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: I thought, oh, I can do this here, and I
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: was like, Win, that's how we do it. Fucking Win.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: That's not the first reference to alien in this trilogy.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: I mean also, I mean so many so there get
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: like so Miranda's driving Miranda Ta Taliall gol Uh's driving.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: She's driving the truck with the bomb.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: In Marion Cultillard is driving the truck with a bomb
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: in it. Batman shoots out this highway. She falls forward
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: and she crashes and breaks her neck. But Gordon, who
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: is loose in the back of the truck, he's in
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: the truck.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: It's totally fine, like you always say, suspended, just bleached
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: a certain point, but it's hard to walk around.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: And then her so specifically talk about her death. Her
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: death is a meme because people fucking hate it and
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: they think it's the worst death like ever in movies.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: She croaks mid sentence.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: I think it's I honestly, because it's a meme and
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: it's so hyped up as bad and I had it
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: in my head. I watched it today. It's not that bad.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: It's it's pretty terrible.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: It's it's like it's not ten out of ten bad,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: it's like a seven. I mean like terrible.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: It is like of course, like you're watching like like
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: like a B movie whatever, but like or whatever, I
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: should say, it's insulting me B movies.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: But like the fact that it's it's it's the death
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: the convenience.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: Death is the insult. Yeah, she lands and crushes Gordon,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: is that he said, walks off like, oh man, there's
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: so much smoke in my jacket.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: Meanwhile she's folded in half and being like, oh well,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: she's a quadriplegic from the neck down broken, Yeah, dying,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: And Gordon has like a cut in his forehead and
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: he was loose in the truck in the back.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: And she's like, no matter what you guys do, even
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: including the flood, which is like flooding the reactor, you're done.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: Like this just doesn't.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: There's no way to have.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: To just get rid of the bomb. But the fact
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: that she also just like it's it's again.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: I was not I'm not saying she's finished, guys.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: It sounds mean she's an incredible actor. Please see Rust
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: and Bone. She's fucking amazing in it. Incredible actor. It's
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: not her fault.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: I think that like Batman with the absence of Hope
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: is bane, Like like we're talking about the joke or
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: what the the ocre is more incorruptible than Batman is.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: I think Batman without Hope is bane. And that's what
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: Bain Bain looked at the ceiling in the sky and
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: had no hope in that prison. I'm never gonna be
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: able to climb out of this tunnel. Batman was in
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: the same prison, saw the same hole and knew I will.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: So I think that hope, even if delusional, like in
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: the scene with Joseph Gordon Lovett here telling the kids
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: to brace for impacts, it's extremely powerful and meaningful, and
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: without hope, you're just you blinked. You looked at the
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: abyss and it looked back at you, and you have
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: no hope, and you blinked. So they're planning on what
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: to do. They have the bomb here, and somebody says,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: we'll just take take your plane and put it on
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: an autopilot and fly it up in the sky and
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: have the bomb blow up the plane. And Bruce reminds everybody,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: which they've been talking about this whole movie, the plane
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: is no autopilot. Morgan Freeman could not figure out the
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: autopilot on the plane, so she so he he knows
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: what he's gonna do, and they all know what he's
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: gonna do, like you know, Alfred's not there, but like Lucius, Catwoman, Batman,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: they all know what he's gonna do. She says to him,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: you could have gone anywhere and done anything that you
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: came back here. And then Bruce said, Bruce says, so
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: did you. And then she says, I guess we're both suckers.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: Then and they make out.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: I wish they love that. I wish they gave this
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: more time though, this relationship. That was the one of
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: the fatal flaws in this movie is that.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: I thought they gave it as much time as it
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: was realistically, could have.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: Just turn it up amazing.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, that's a nitpick. They're great, but this
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: movie is nine hours long.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: So that's a part of the problem too, is they're
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: wasting your time with other stuff.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: But so she makes it, I guess we're both suckers.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: Then they make out. I love love love that them
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: making out incredible. So he gets in the batplane to
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: fly away, and they all know he's going to kill himself.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: He's gonna sacrifice himself for the city. Gordon says, I
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: never cared who you were, but shouldn't. All the people
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: have Gotham know the hero that save them, and he says.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 5: A hero can be anyone, even a man doing something
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 5: is simple, is reassuring and putting a coat on a
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: young boy's shoulders to let him know the world hadn't ended.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 5: I'm Ruce Wayne, I'm a Rachel's friend.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: I love Rachel.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: This is the biggest crown of this entire movie.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: And then Jim Gordon goes like she sort of made
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: me think of it's uh, do you know what in
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: fucking macgoober when mcgoober is just so delusional and so
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: full of himself when he's uh, powers Booth gets a
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: call and he goes it's the president and then his
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: reaction he goes like ah, and he's like so jazzed,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: like that's Gordon's like, oh my god, it's Bruce.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: But the biggest crimes movie is that moment is explained.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: We talked about aboutmigans what a wonderfully human moment, Like like.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: Gordon, because they cut back to it.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: You mean, That's what I'm saying, Like, we don't need
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: to know this, and.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: In fact, we don't need to show the little kid.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: We don't need to show that scene. And like also
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: we don't need to hear Gordon say wait a minute,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: Bruce fucking.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: Wayne, Yeah, yeah, ohly shit.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: I should have been like it should have been like,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: because both guys are phenomenal actors, like bail and old
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: Man were Like when Baille says that, like I remember
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: like being feater, like seeing that, like, holy shit, what
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: a callback to this wonderfully kid moment. I just would
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: have wished if I just like Gordon just again like
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: said nothing and took it in and been like we're fine,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: because we all, we as viewers, know what that means.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: We know the impact of that moment. I hate the
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: being like, oh, did you guys get it? Are you
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: sure you got it? Here we go. I fucking hate
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: that shit because these these past two movies never crutched
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: you with anything that's curious.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: It is insulting, and it is a pet peeve of
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: mine and I do I do not like.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: But still the moment is solid reason.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to argue with you on that. I
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: don't like spelling it out for the audience because the
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: audience is stupid. And yes, the audience is stupid, but
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: catering to the stupid audience makes you a worst storytelling.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: Why is Gordon there? He already bought in you know that?
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: Why so like what it strives me? Insane? I'm sorry,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: strives me insane.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: No, that's fine, And back to the school bus with
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: Joseph Cordin Levitt. There's an explosion he sees in the
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: city and he yells, get your heads down. This is it,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: which is this is all so fucked up? Like this scene,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: the scenes with him with the children in the school bus,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: knowing they're all going to die. It's really dark and
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: like really emotionally affects me in a way that the
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: other parts of these movies don't. He goes, yeah, this
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: is it, get your heads down, and then one of
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: the kids says no, it's Batman and he looks up
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: and Bruce is in the batplane with the bomb until
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: blowing things up to get out of the way, to
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: get out of the city. So he's like, oh my god.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: And then you just see Bruce fly off into the
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: distance above the ocean, and they cut to the inside
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: of the plane where you know he's about to die
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: and his face he's in the batsuit, and it cuts
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: to his face and he just looks very at peace.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: It's actually a really great moment.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really really great. He doesn't look sad or angry.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: Like we don't end characters because we can't do anymore.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: But I love it.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, let's not start about Captain America. I kind
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: of hope Avengers Dooms toay? Is that what it's called? Is?
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: I kind of hope it's a ship show because I
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: think that it really could be. And like Captain America
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: coming back and I'm Robert Tanner Junior. You're playing doctor Doom,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: Like what are we doing?
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: You? You had what tangent? You had two wonderful character endings. Ever,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: like the Captain America was Chef's kids soul crushing to
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: watch kiss but like positive but like it's just facillit'sy.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, this is the cost, great, go ahead, Sorry.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: It's not to me. It's not like to me, Iron
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: Man is more that soul crushing, this is the cost.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: Captain America is like good, good for him. That's the
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: ending for the Captain America to me, Like he deserves
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: this and I'm glad he's happy he.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: But like Tony lived, Wow, Tony lived so much life
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: and was like partying whatever like that. It's just like
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: how things went.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: Cap had to like live ten lives and then come like.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: I had to sacrifice and then sacrifice again four more times,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: and then he dies happy, but also but then again
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: the ideas like I have to know that I live
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: four lives. That's the whole to me.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: Well anyways, and then he so Bruce is at peace
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: and he's flying out on the ocean with the nuclear bomb,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: and then the bomb detonates and Bruce dies. Batman dies.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: He blows up with a nuclear bomb.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: What do you think of this is visual? What do
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: you think about how it looks? What do you think?
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: I thought that the nuclear bomb, mushroom cloud and reaction
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: was way too small.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: I get why they gave it distance.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: It's no Oppenheimer kind of funny that this is pre Oppenheimer.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: Oppenheimer's is fine too, But I was just curious, like it,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: like that has to be like visual effects. But I
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: like that moment. So when the explosion happens, we zoom
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: out in a great shot of the explosion after and
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: we hear Jim Gordon reading a passage from mattild two Cities.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, and Joseph Gordon Levitt throws his police badge into
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: the ocean. By the way, didn't he already who was
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: gonna way weird?
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: Didn't he already quit. So we hear him say, I
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: see a beautiful city, and they're bringing in people rising
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: from the abyss. From this abyss, I see the lives
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: from which I laid down my life, peaceful, useful, prosperous,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: and happy. I see that I hold sanctuary in their
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: hearts and in the hearts their percentence generations. Hence, is
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: it a far far better thing that I do, never redone?
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: Is it a far far better rest that I go to,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: never renown? I just want to say this, I'm gonna
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: include to my advice in vice while advice we've we've
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: just stopped doing this show.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: Forever, not just episode Christopher, Christopher Nolan, I know where
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: you're at. This line was also included in Star Trek
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: to the Wrath of Khan. And this is fucking infuriating
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: that you put in this in the movie. It's it
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: drove me inside.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: Sorry, we have a caller on the line. Hello, Yeah,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: this is Joe, and I just want to say, Ryan,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: you read my fucking mind, right.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: Joe, I'll see outside. But no, I'm kidding. This is
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: all this. This line is legitially used to the end
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: of Wrath of Khan. Beautifully. It's the best thing William
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: Shatner has ever done his entire life, but also works
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: here really well.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: They barry Bruce on the property of the Wayna State,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: next to his parents, and Alfred is legitimately sobbing in
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: it like seeing Michael's face makes me in like I
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: feel pained his face. So he goes, I failed you.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: You trusted me, and I failed you. He says that
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: to Bruce. Gordon says to uh Blake Joseph Warton Levit,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: who's at the funeral, can I convince you to come
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: back to the forest, and he says, no way. And
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: then he says to Gordon, no one will ever know
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: who saved the entire city, and Gordon says, yes, they
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: will know. It's Batman.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: What do you think of the statue.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: They reveal a Batman statue. I think it's great. It
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: doesn't look like Christian Bale because nobody knows what he
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: looks like.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: Oother the visual was pretty bad.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: But okay, yeah, I feel like I feel like there's
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: a lot of nitpicks for this film, where in other
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: movies you're pretty goddamn forgiving.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: I love this movie.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: It's insane, Okay, So they they they mentioned because Bruce
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: had no money when he died. As we talked about
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: it already, the estate will be auction off to settle
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: its debts. Anything remaining after the settlement of their debts
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: will go to Alfred Pennyworth. The house, the way Manor
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: estate and its grounds will be left to the to
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: Gotham City as the Thomas and Martha Wayne Center for
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: Orphaned Children. He names it after his parents and not himself.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: Just makes fucking great and anything else like you know
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: there people will handle. So Blake basically gets like a
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: note that he was left something and Bruce Wayne's coordinates, Yeah, cordonate, Well,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: he was left something in the will and he goes
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: to pick it up and he says, hey, my name
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: is John Blake, and the woman says, we don't have
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: anything under that name. He goes, oh, it's not my
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: legal name. Here's my driver's license, and she looks at
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: the driver's license and goes, oh, I like that. You
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: should use your legal name, Robin, and then he just
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: goes like okay, thank you and leaves. Now a lot
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: of people hated this. I thought this was great, no problem.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: Christopher Nolan is ending his take on this character. Yes,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm telling you, hey, there's a future here.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, why not? Sure? But there's not gonna be
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: another movie. Can't we can't name him? Dick Rayson? Yeah,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Like I thought this was fine. I liked it.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: It was a cute little nod and I loved it
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: at all. And then Fox says to his scientists. He
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: has his scientist working on a new batplane, and he goes,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: I need you to figure out what I could have
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: done to fix the autopilot and the scientists say the
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: autopilot was fixed six months ago, and Fox, confused, says,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: whose log is on the signature of that? And they
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: say Bruce Wayne. And then it cuts to Alfred on
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: his Florence vacation. Let's let's fucking go. Music is fucking roaring, roaring,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: The score is roaring.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: Let's go.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: Robin gets coordinates, Alfred goes to Florence. Robin is splunking
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: in a cave. Alfred is sitting and drinking his coffee
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: and he all of a sudden, he barely sorry for Bronca.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: He barely reacts. Michael Caine barely reacts. He just he's
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: sipping his for net and he looks up and he pauses,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: and then he doesn't even he barely even smiles, and
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: he just nods like hello. And then it cuts to
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: a table across the way and it's fucking Bruce Wayne
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: sitting with Catwoman.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: Looking even from behind, looking great. My entire crowd fucking
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: erupted when it happened, Like they were like, we don't
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: give a ship how accurate this is. They are erupted.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: It's a blast.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: It's so fun, really curious as to what they did
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: for money.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: My last note is is she supporting him now?
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: Seriously? But you know, and also like I know we
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: shouldn't think this way because it's a chef's kiss, perfect
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: ending in my opinion, but like you know, their relationship
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: is not unicorns and rainbows from here on out, because
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: no relationship is so like what are their fights about?
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: What are they doing in Italy? I see you on Friday? No?
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: I just love because like here's what what? What? What
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: has happened with this entire series is that movies changed
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: right like where it's like we're talking about with like
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: with The Dark Knight.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: Like this is a Shawshank redemption level, perfect ending.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: Perfect happy ending, I watched this on YouTube.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: As far as happy endings go, I think I.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: Genuine I'm not kidding. I've been cradle because I love
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: this movie so much. Like I just see it so much.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: I can see a lot of like irks myself. I
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: find this ending just like even when Bail just blinks alphared. Now,
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: it's like I can't fucking handle this. I just can't
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: see this. It's so good.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: It's gotta be so hard though, where like it's your
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: dad essentially, and you know, like I can never talk
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: to my dad again.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: But you this person understands it's best for both of you.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm overthinking it. Just enjoy the moment. Just enjoy
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: the moment. It don't be a negative Nancy. However, you
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: know people complained about him trying to give up being Batman.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: First of all, he physically couldn't continue to be Batman.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: In the Nolan universe correct.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: Second of all, in the comic book, Bruce never wants
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: happiness or peace. That's not something he ever wants because
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: of his parents. But don't you think it's kind of
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: nice that this version of the story gave him happiness
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: and peace? Doesn't he deserve it? This man that sacrificed everything.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: As you always say, I'm an overly positive idiot. I
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: loved this movie. Was like one of the superheroes because like,
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: you know what, he'll be Okay, fine, they're not like, hey,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: I'm eternally cursed. But you said earlier in the podcast
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: on part one of twenty eight, this is the only
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: character where it's like I get when people are like
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: he should continue to where he's miserable, like the athletic version,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: He's like, that's what they are. His resistance and eternal
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: strength against everything is what they are. So I get
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: this argument, but I have no problem with again, like
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: this person's take was like, you know what, just let's
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: let's show you one time. Like the Daredevil book, Oh
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: my god, End of Days fucking incredible the end because
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: Darribl is kind of Batman with less resources, and End
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: of Days is a great fucking book about how like
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: how do you end? There?
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: Like how does this end? Not well?
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: Not well? But also you you can end, but the
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: spirit of you keeps going. What does the spirit mean?
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: What did you? What? What do your results matter? And
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: it's fascinatingly great. It's like I I love this and
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: also again like you said, like the Shawshank moment, like
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: who like dude, that Shawshank.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: Ending is like does they want to NaIO?
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: I hope the Pacific is blues in My Dreams is
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: a fucking incredible line. And this movie has a similar
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: vibe of just like let's just let's just fucking go,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: like how we just give it we want?
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: And then after this moment, it shows Robin Sponky in
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: a cave Joseph Rdon, Levitt Blake and you up and
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: you see the foundation for Wayne Manner, so you realize
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: he's in the bat Cave and he's standing on a
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: platform and it's like waterfall in the cave. And then
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: the platform rises up, so you know it's like something
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: Bruce had built in there to access the bat cave.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: So the platform rises up with Robin on it looking
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: towards the bat Cave, and then the movie ends and
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: it says the dark Knight rises.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: I love how the rises up like cuts the camera off.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, wonderful. So the indication is that Robin will continue
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: being Batman, which is in some form, in some form,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: which is like hard to do because he's not trained
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: by the League of Shadows. He's just like a beat cop.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: So even if he trains like an mma gym, which
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: he doesn't in the movie, that would be like kind
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: of a lot of an ask, even with a batsuit on.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: But again, doesn't matter.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: The whole idea was like I'm leaving some hope for
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: someone because I can't continue.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, but and the whole thing is like Batman is hope,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: Batman is an idea, Batman is not a guy, agreed,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: And then you just hear the dirty boogie and that's
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: that's the end of the Dark Knight Trilogyay, Yeah, that's
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: mercifully where we will end. Ryan, do you have any
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: closing thoughts or advice for the Dark Knight trilogy.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: This is a blast. It was so great to see
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: this again.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: Again.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: The Dark Knight especially is very ever present. But and again,
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: I've seen The Dark Knight Rises forty thousand times. I
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: think it's a wonderful movie too.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: You'll been criticizing it for five hours. This is so
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: great to rep Like watching Batman begins a I was
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: kind of like I always loved it, but I was like, man,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: this thing fucking role it's so good. So my advice
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: is what that movie did was respect what they do,
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: but do your own thing.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: As what we can do. That's all we can do. Also,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: if your kids don't like falafel, it's their own fault.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: I like that Nolan didn't do like test screenings or
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: like you know, there was obviously notes, but this is
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: not like a man. This is sort of like a
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: Seinfeld situation where they said, Christopher Nolan, you're really smart,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: do whatever you want, versus like design by committee. Yes,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: test screenings, that's always bad, always bad. My advice would be,
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: this is the greatest trilogy of all time. Text me
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: if I'm wrong, tell me what is better than this.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: I really think this was better than I remember. Not
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: The Dark Knight, because like that's impossible, but the trilogy
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: is a trilogy I think was better than I remember.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: This is just a version of Batman that Christopher Nolan
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: wanted to tell. It's not the definitive Batman, but it's
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: it's amazing And I think that, like I said, Superman's
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: power is being a good person even though he's a god.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: I think Batman's power is even with all the suffering
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: he personally is endured and all the suffering he's seen
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: in the world, everything he's seen from criminals, rapists, murderers,
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: he does not allow that to change his hope for
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: humanity and the ability to see like there is good
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: in some people that is worth saving, and that's what
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: I'm willing to sacrifice for. I think that that's incredibly,
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: incredibly difficult to do, and that's why he's basically in
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: comic books. He's the most mentally strong person in all
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: of comics, like he's pretty much universally portrayed that way.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: But on that note, we will end here. Thank you
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: for listening. What a hell of a ride.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: Thanks everyone, Another blockbuster season.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: Another blockbuster season.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: See you all at see you all in Greece for.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: For what you No, I didn't for the odisty oh okay,
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: well I would out close this statement. There is a
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: difference between you and me. We both stared into the abyss.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: When it looked back at us, you jump, drived, and
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: whil