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The Origin of the Gods - How the Urantia Book Explains Ancient Aliens, with my guest Joel Garbon · Urantia Radio

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The Earth is a very small stage in a vast Cosmic Arena, think of
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the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and Emperors.
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So that in glory and Triumph, they could become the momentary
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masters of a fraction of a DOT. Welcome to the ranch Radio
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podcast, my guess is Joel Garvin.
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He's been on the program. A couple of times at Iowan,
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always enjoy, having and long time here, and over here is
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background is in science and technology, and it's good to
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have them on. And I thought if you recall in
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our earlier podcast, the first time we met you all he had
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recently presented a your Rancher rub presentation which
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is on our website. By the way I still have it up
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for those who want to check it out, it's a power.
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Point that was introduced to a group out of ufology conference.
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And I remember Joel that you had remarked about how enthusiastic
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people in the world of ufology are, or were receptive to your
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presentation at that conference and it was I think back in 2018
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or something anyway and I thought well, you know, maybe
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that's an Avenue of commonality because the Urantia book seems
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to address a lot of the ancient alien Mysteries.
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And all the mysteries of prehistoric, man.
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And I've come to recognize that almost every mysterious thing
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that has made it in those books. You know, the Cherry, the
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Chariots of the Gods, and the fingerprint of the Gods, you
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know, all those books and television shows about Ancient
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Aliens. I think they're all sort of
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addressed in the Urantia book and I thought, well, how
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interesting would that be if we did a podcast on those Mysteries
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and explain to people What the Rancho book has to say about
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them and that's why I thought a usual.
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How are you? You're welcome.
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And I love this topic. I think it's really on point for
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addressing a lot of the interest today that there is in the topic
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of Ancient Aliens, UFOs and all of that.
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And the Rancher book does provide this amazing backdrop
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for how to view these things that actually were historical,
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but that His explanations that go beyond what our postulated
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and it shows like the Ancient Aliens series that's been on the
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History Channel. Yeah.
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Okay. Yeah.
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So because it seems to me that we all grew up in the period of
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Star Trek and outer limits. So in a way, we were kind of
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groomed. I hate to use the word because
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it's got such a negative connotation these days, but we
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were sort of groomed from an early age and I think what
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happened? It's sort of planted this seed
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this idea that the Universe was filled with living beings and
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they were just separated by space and that these beings
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could be intelligent and some of them nefarious.
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And some of them not so nefarious.
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And I think this really fueled the interest, the general
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interest and ufology. And then from there the interest
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in all of these ancient Clues back in the day, like, you know,
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what about the Nazca Lines or what Out, good luck.
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Eat EPI and the pyramids and The Gardens of Babylon and all these
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other mysterious things that were created by supposedly
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intelligent people. When, at that time, there were
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no intelligent people according to archaeology, they, they
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insist that we were pretty much Stone Age up until about 2000
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BC, but how could that? Because it's not consistent,
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right? Right.
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So I think a good way to look at this and you actually use the
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phrase. Planting a seed.
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I think that that might be the appropriate place for us to
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start in our discussion because what always is of interest in
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the whole UFO. ET story is how did you Manatee
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come to be honest Planet, how did life itself come to be on
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this planet? And the ranch book has a lot to
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say about that. God, think first, we ought to
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recognize that the book speaks about us, living in a highly
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inhabited universe, and even in our Local system of planets and
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stars, they say that there's over 600 inhabited planets.
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When we stretch that out to what they call the local Universe,
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there's approximately 4 million inhabited planets, stretch that
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out, even further to what they say comprises a super universe
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and now we're talking nearly 1 trillion inhabited planets and
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so many of these Are billions of years older than our own Planet.
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So given that it says that they are inhabited and that so many
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of them are much older, whether there was it there because
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decades older or billions of years older, that implies that
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they are much more advanced than Earth Humanity.
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In in regards to technology cultural achievement.
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Perhaps spiritual awareness and really Early recognition of
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universal truth. So it's highly likely that there
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are many many civilizations out there that are spacefaring.
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That also have a much greater grasp of, what is true on a
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universal level and certainly, the, your answer book through
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its Revelation, just trying to help her with Humanity,
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understand this broader picture. So, you know, one of the things
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that I think would be helpful for us is to go through In our
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discussion here today, what are the various beings that the Iran
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should book? Says are visible to Earth
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humanity, and and let them talk about those.
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Beings going back to the very early days that pretty much
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covers that timeline of the whole ancient alien examination
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out of the, first of these would be these beings that they called
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The Life Care. Couriers and you use the term
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Jim planting a seed. Well the life carriers basically
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had the responsibility to implant life on inhabited
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planets. Well hold on because there is
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one element that I think we have to use we need to put a primer
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in here and that primer that I think Bridges the Iran shh book
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narrative its explanation of the living universe and what what
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connects it to the Ufo-ologists. The person who believes in the
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idea, the notion that a superior several civilization, came here
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and, and was here. And the difference, the primer
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is the morontia world. That's what I want to also
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introduce into this conversation.
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Because the advanced civilization that Joel and I are
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talking about, is not necessarily a civilization From
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Another World. This is a civilization that is
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governed by By a spiritual hierarchy.
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This is where they come from. These are not extraterrestrial
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beings that come from. The Planet Krypton ight two
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years to light years away and they came here 10,000 years ago
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and planted their seed. We're not talking about that
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kind of ancient alien what we're talking about is an intelligent
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economy of living intelligent beings who are in charge of the
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universe who manage you. Ministry to who create new
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universes. So, that's what I'm talking
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about. I'm not talking about an, you
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know, green men from Mars. I'm talking about super
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spiritual miranshah and you know, like Adam and Eve which
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we'll get to, they weren't from another, they were from another
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planet. Do you see what I'm saying?
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That's the primer that we need to introduce, is that these
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aren't just aliens from another world randomly.
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This is a hierarchy, you know, the expression, the most high is
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ruled in the kingdoms of men is a great example of this.
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There is a hierarchy of beings who lovingly administer to us
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and Michael, who is Christ is in charge of this operation.
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And that I just wanted to inject that point into this discussion.
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Yeah, that's a that's a great qualifier their gym because most
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of what, you know, the book speaks of as far as these other
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orders of being that have been visible to Earth.
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Humanity are indeed from these higher spheres.
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That aren't just physical the way we speak of, but they're
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actually part of the spiritual economy and administration of a
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far-flung universe. Now that's that's not That's not
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true in all cases though because there are references to beings
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that may be from from Material planets like our own that have
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had their life evolve over time and will make reference to those
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a little bit later. But generally, what you have
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said here definitely is the case.
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So even these life, the area beings that I spoke right?
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But we would a wouldn't see them.
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I mean that alive carrier sun is part of that group.
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Of sons that they have a specific Duty.
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I mean, there are they self-governing?
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I'm not sure but their job is basically carry life like you
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were saying so yeah, yeah, the life carriers are described as
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having three different phases of life or frequency, I guess is a
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term. I would use they can exist in
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three different frequencies that are The highest would be pretty
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much a semi spiritual phase. The second would be, would be
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considered this intermediate More Rancho phase of life, but
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the third is actually a physical form of life because that's
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absolutely necessary for them to actually be able to operate with
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Electro chemical physical systems, which of course
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comprises biology. So it's actual I mean we are are
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we have these bodies that are electrochemical organisms, that
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are indeed physical and in order to be able to manipulate the
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chemistry itself just like a chemist in any laboratory, you
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have to have a physical organism to be able to do those
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experiments there because we're not just talking thought
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experiments here right which could occur at a mirage level
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we're talking about actually you know, mixing up chemicals and
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Laura Permits all that kind of thing.
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So, so when the life carriers came to this planet, which they
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say happened about 600 million years ago, a long time ago, they
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came and they implanted genetic material in the shallow salty,
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Seas of the planet in several different locations.
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And then they have the responsibility to nurture that
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life as it develops from the very primordial.
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Bacteria and other early vegetative forms, all the way up
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through the early animals and the higher animals and
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eventually, to where human beings arrived out of that long
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evolutionary struggle. And by the way, let me also
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interject that that only happens.
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Because of all the organizational, what we call
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prep work there. If you want to get a good
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glimpse of, this is like three people.
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Three guys didn't just show up and start.
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Dropping protozoa in the oceans. There was a whole Litany of
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forced organizers and it had to be approved by the Ancients of
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days and all of these other governing bodies of permit, had
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to be filed, you know, a permit, there had to be an exploratory
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group that went out, and this is stuff that happened hundreds of
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millions of years ago. And it's it's fascinating to
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hear you talking about it. But so these these three live
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carrier son show up and they Zeus genetic compound.
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And in fact not long ago, I was I think I mentioned this, I had
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one of my wisdom teeth removed and I thought about the life
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carriers and what went into the design of my teeth.
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I thought, boy, they did a really good job because this
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guy's working. It can't get my tooth out very
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easily. So anyway, but rightly so, so we
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have a life carriers here, long time ago, and and they say there
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were about 14 of them involved. And that that's actually
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actually, there may have been many more involved, but they
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worked with all whole retinue of other types of beings who were
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part of what's necessary in order to to develop and
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establish life and to nurture that life along.
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But apparently 14 of these life carriers with that they describe
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is to Senior Life carriers and to Cusco and twelve custodians,
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total 14 that they've remained rained on our planet for the
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past, five hundred thousand years and are still here,
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although not in a form in which we could see them, they would be
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in this midphase. This Mirage will face so we
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would not see them directly. But what's what is really
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interesting here is that for every 10th inhabited planet that
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has life, implantation every tenth planet has the permission
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To have a new type of life in planted on it, that's never
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existed before. And it says that indeed our
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planet, your Ranch is one of these what they call Life
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modifications fears that has new forms of life that aren't found
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anywhere else in the whole universe.
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So that's one of the things that makes our planet of intense
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interest to beings on other planets, including those, who
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may be out. Simply exploring and learning
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will talk about that that group who go and explore and learn
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their, they're called student visitors.
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And basically they are out trying to learn as much as they
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can, you know, on different planets and then sometimes
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they're referred to as as star students, right?
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Which is that a, an interesting term because the term student,
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of course means that they're seeking knowledge.
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They're they're out there to learn.
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It definitely paints this picture that there are some very
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Advanced civilizations of evolve humans from more advanced
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planets, that likely are older than ours, who are spacefaring
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and have the technology to to, to transfer new Traverse,
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Interstellar space. And some of those have been in
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our neighborhood here. Now, meaning the neighborhood of
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our planet, and one of the things that attracts them here
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is the fact that this is a life modifications, Sphere with forms
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of life that don't exist anywhere else.
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Another thing that attracts them is that this planet is the
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bestowal planet of Christ, Michael and only one out of out
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of, you know, 10 million planets gets to be that chosen Planet.
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So that makes this one very unique planet and the third
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thing is that it's a book says that we have a headquarters of
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the archangels located on your Rancho, which is also very
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Unusual. So those three things, this
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being a life modifications fear, this being the bestow world of
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our local Universe Creator son. And this being a planet with an
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arc Angels headquarters, creates intense interest for those who
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are seeking knowledge and understanding who may be
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traveling throughout the Universe and through our own
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solar system, these star students or student visitors.
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So again you're portraying What is taking a step back and
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looking at the bigger picture? You know, when you start to look
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at the universe as a living organism where there are
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thriving intelligence societies, you know, in a normal situation
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had certain things not occurred, you know, 200,000 years ago, we
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would be more privy and this information wouldn't be as so
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shocking to us. If you're listening to this
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podcast, Not been familiar with the Urantia book, you know, and
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again, we're trying to address that real issue because there
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are you know, where fat we're naturally fascinated by this
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idea of interstellar beings and Galactic traveling.
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And I mean, this, why do why do we think Star Wars is so damn
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popular? I mean, we exactly and there's
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there are a lot of parallels to those kinds of presentations.
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For example, the student veteran.
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Deters, you know, think of it this way when you and I are no
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longer here, and we're no longer in this vehicle that we call our
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bodies. And we're on to the heaven or
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the resurrection phase. Our next life.
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We too will be allowed to travel and Traverse and go and visit
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other worlds. Now, they won't see us, and we
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won't have any involvement in their life, but we will be able
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to observe them as they are because we're close and kin.
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We're not too far above. The material is Phase.
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I guess you could say of life. So kind of have to look at You
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know, what we're basically saying is that they're all of
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those things that we think are true are true because there is
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life out there, there is life everywhere.
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That's one of, I think the most attractive features of the
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Urantia book. But, but talk about again, some
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of the earlier, these Ancient Aliens of earlier days and who
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they were the no tights. For example, let's talk about
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them your little bit. Yeah, look, I want to do that in
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a second. I would like to make a
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connection though between what I just spoke of on the life
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carriers and what is a great interest to people who study
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modern ufology? I mean, most everyone knows in
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popular culture at least that there's a group of
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extraterrestrial beings that have been referred to as the
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greys. And so, whenever you see the
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classic ET image of the kind? big black bug eyed you know
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large head small body being whether it's gray in color green
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or whatever but that's basically considered a depiction of these
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Greys and it's the lore around those beings has a lot to do
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with what is considered to be an abduction phenomenon where
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humans are abducted and they they have genetic experiments
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other medical experiments, done on them.
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And there's many reports of hybridization programs that are
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being performed by that particular group of entities
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called the greys also. There are stories of cattle.
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Mutilations, we're on ranches these.
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These cattle will be found in in a field and they will have Very
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precise almost with laser-like Precision removal of various
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organs, just out the middle of a field with no tracks coming to
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the animal. It's as if it had been removed
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from the field from up above and then had these surgical
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procedures performed on it and then it's just put back down on
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the ground. Yeah.
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And very interesting, it's something I've studied for
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decades to try to understand this unusual phenomenon.
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And there's been books written about it and all this kind of
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thing. So, a question that comes up in
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my mind, you know, given that if these gray entities are our deed
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factual and real, and they have such an intense interest in the
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human biology or reproductive systems, are genetic material,
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as well as that of other animals such as cattle is it possible?
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That they are working in some type of concert with the life
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carriers because it would make sense that the life carriers
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after implanting life. Watch.
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It evolve over millions of years, hundreds of millions of
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years and network to stage of having evolved humans here and
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given the amount of pollution that we have on our planet right
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now. Because, you know, we have all
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the chemical technology and all these ways.
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That that, through our industrial society, we have
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compromised our food system and basically the environment of the
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whole planet, it would make sense that light carriers would
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be interested to know. Hey, are all these chemicals
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that have been introduced into the environment and the food?
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How are they, impacting human beings, how are they impacting
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other animals? How are they impacting?
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You know, the Aquatic and marine ecosystems.
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So it would make sense that they would have some type of
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monitoring Of those potentially damaging effects.
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Because many of those effects are genetic in nature and can
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actually change chromosomes. Like we see the all of the lot
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of the pesticides, especially, you know, pesticides.
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The, the popular herbicides that have been around for a long
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time. Have had very damaging effects
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on amphibians like frogs. So now there's they're not only
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serve been a Massive fraud Extinction on the planet, but
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there also has been endocrine disruption of those amphibious
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creatures. So that now a lot of times they
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can't reproduce or what was male now as female.
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And they and some of them are hermaphroditic.
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Meaning they are both male and female lot of very concerning
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damage, being done by chemicals that have been introduced to the
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environment. So when I say, About the
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potential does tie in between light carriers and these gray
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aliens. You know, might they actually be
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purposefully working to collect information to see what a deed
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is happening in real time with the pollution of our
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environment. So it's just a question that I,
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you know, kind of put out there. Well, I think I'd be inclined to
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see that. That's a kind of a logical
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logical deduction. Where I, where I have a
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skepticism is it that that the Rancho book doesn't make any
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kind of reference to this kind of thing occurring, where they
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utilize the other worldliness aliens to perform something on
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our world. You know, I mean, I don't know
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if there's not a reference made to that kind of, you know, you
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know, because now the Grays would they be like an advanced
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group of people from another nearby world or would they be?
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You know what they be from say, edentia or Jerusalem?
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Where do you think they would be originated?
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Well many, many who have studied this for a long time.
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And I've met some of the leading researchers, in the whole UFO
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Community. Many of them think that the the
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gray aliens aren't actually fully physical beings.
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Many of them think that these are type of robotic being where
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they where they are. They might be part of like
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little Androids. Yeah, you know, they might have
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think to think about data for not emotional, non personality
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types. Yes.
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And that's also another feature that they're always described as
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is having no emotion. Yes, they're very dispassionate.
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They just feel very businesslike about their business as and
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doing these medical examinations and the genetic manipulation and
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all of this Like they've been programmed to do this task and
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they are very high functioning like data from Star Trek.
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Remember data he has a physical like if you were to cut in he
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might bleed but if you dig in a deeper, you're going to find a
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mechanical mechanism here somewhere.
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Well you make a good point and I'll draw to it.
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Is that nothing on this planet happens without somebody?
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By giving approval. I mean, because of the fact that
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we are, like, you mentioned the archangels headquarters, you
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know, we're an experimental world.
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We have a lot of we're known as the world of the cross.
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I mean we're we're definitely a place that has got a lot of
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tension, you know, from another other Advanced.
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So on that and I think within the UF all Izzy Community.
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I've heard this discussed where there are groups of like the
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reptilians, then there are the greys and then there's another
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group that And there are nefarious groups that are
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seeking to take over that. I don't, I can't go down that
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rabbit hole because again, I believe that the universe is
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managed intelligently, and that our planet is pretty special,
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and that, that kind of activity, seems more along the nature of
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brutal worlds, that might be depicted in science, fiction
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movies, you know, like Star Wars where you have, you know, you
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got Darth Vader and you know what, you know what I'm saying.
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In other words, I don't think that they're, it's not
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intelligent enough for me. I don't think that the Universe
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would be that haphazard where you'd have alien forces trying
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to dominate different worlds. But you know, I could be wrong
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my point. Well, you know that, I like what
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you're saying is that they could be the fifth of, there's a
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functional process going on because of the conditions on our
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Earth right now. And we know from the writings of
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the Urantia book that genetics is very important to you know,
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to the I've carriers and to the, you know, people who care about
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our other personalities, we care about our existence, they talked
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often about the importance for us to you know what do they say?
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You know you don't get any more there aren't going to be any
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more evolutions of humans, you're it.
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So you need to, you know, pay close attention.
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And what's that, you know, the good qualities of intelligence
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and genetics need to be carefully.
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Handled don't throw them away, you know.
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So anyway, right. But okay, what else anything you
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want to cover before we? Yeah, so let's let's progress
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forward from there. So so the life carriers, you
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know, they were on the scene 600 million years ago and they
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continue, you know, to this day to be present the next group
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that shows up all come a half a million years ago, 500,000 years
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ago to the planet and they are part of the, the staff that
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arrives with the Planetary, Prince, and that planetary,
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Prince is the planetary administrator.
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He's given the name, caligastia in the Urantia book, and he has
28:39
a lieutenant named Al agastya, they were both of those two were
28:44
invisible to humans because they are they're much higher higher
28:49
beings than Earth Humanity. However, along with this, this
28:56
planetary Prince and his number two there.
29:00
Were 100 corporeal being. So they're referred to as the
29:06
corporeal staff of 100. So, there were 50 male, 50
29:11
female. These were other humans each of
29:16
whom had lived their original native life on other planets,
29:22
besides your Rancho. So, so these 100 beings, you
29:27
know, half men, half women were from 100 different planets and
29:34
after they had left their respective planets as part of
29:38
their continuing life Journey after their natural death, and
29:43
they went to the system headquarters world of the
29:48
capital of our local system is called jerison.
29:53
They were recruited from a large number of volunteers to come
29:58
back to. Our planet, which was in a very,
30:03
very early stage of its human evolution and at the time of
30:09
half million years ago, where the prints and the staff of 100
30:13
corporeal beings arrived, human Earth Humanity was about half a
30:18
million years old, but still in a very primitive stage.
30:21
All right. So they, so they arrive on the
30:23
planet and it gives us a lot of interesting details about this
30:28
corporeal step of Under it. They apparently were very tall
30:35
in stature and it suggests, they were maybe maybe eight feet
30:39
tall, they would have had absolutely perfect physiques.
30:45
They would have been, you know, very attractive beings.
30:49
Incredibly intelligent not just because of the endowments that
30:55
they had physically. And and from the Mind
30:59
standpoint, Point but also because of their experience
31:03
because remember these are coming from other planets 100
31:07
different planets and these are likely the best and brightest
31:11
that were available from that pool of volunteers.
31:14
These people would have been highly familiar with all the
31:18
technology and technological development development and
31:22
cultural developments that had transpired on their own native
31:27
worlds. So now you have 100 of these
31:29
beings Here on Earth with an incredible amount of cosmic
31:34
knowledge regarding not just not just their own local Histories
31:39
on those a hundred planets, but technological knowledge.
31:44
And this is going to come a big part to play in all of these.
31:50
These inquiries about how did we have these megalithic structures
31:54
come about all over our planet? And how does it seem that these
31:59
ancient peoples? Had amazing technology.
32:03
Well, this is what I'm speaking of right now.
32:05
With the corporeal staff, this is where the answer lies here
32:10
and also we should mention. Now you're opening the door Joel
32:15
to the past that we have a glimpse of in our old.
32:19
Writings for example, take the quote from Genesis, there were
32:23
giants in those days or sons of the sons of God.
32:29
Who came. I took the daughters of men as
32:33
wise now and remembering that at this particular time, when this
32:37
group of 100, show up, we're right at the very, very
32:41
beginning of Almost pre-modern Human, I probably Homo Sapien at
32:46
that point. And and these this group along
32:50
with caligastia and daligastia, they've chose the an area, which
32:55
we now refer to as the Persian Gulf to set up this first.
33:00
Civilization where they would recruit the brighter minds of
33:04
the local tribes bring them in and basically teach them the
33:08
rudiments of civilization. And so they're drawing all of
33:12
these Legends of these gods and that's directly linked to what
33:17
Joel just described. Yes.
33:19
So that very first city on our planet located, as Jim said, in
33:25
the Persian Gulf region, it was given the name Dalmatia.
33:30
And it was Established 500,000 years ago.
33:33
And this was the world. Capital of wisdom was a very big
33:38
by the way and I don't think there are more than a few
33:40
hundred people but this is these are the humble beginnings.
33:44
Yeah. Those were the humble beginnings
33:46
but eventually it says, you know, he came to have some tens
33:49
of thousands of inhabitants there.
33:53
Now these I want to go back to this.
33:55
The staff of 100 corporeal beings because there's some
34:00
interesting The things the book has to say about how their
34:03
bodies were prepared to be inhabited by The Souls of these
34:08
volunteers. And what it says is that the the
34:15
bodies were specially prepared for this group of 100 and in
34:21
order to to help make them happy to help, give them the ability
34:30
to Reproduce with Earth Humanity, which was part of the
34:37
eventual plan but not part of the early plan.
34:42
What happened was there was the extraction of some cells from a
34:49
group of volunteers from the first human race called the and,
34:55
and I trace. So, there were hands I think,
34:58
oh, dear, Do you think the ovens Are the nights?
35:09
The Nephilim, the know, the denote, the denisova means these
35:13
are the early Asian early man. What they call the denisova
35:19
means that stretch back to the earliest either among the
35:23
earliest humans, I guess you're not familiar with that term but
35:27
I'm not. Yeah, I'm not familiar with that
35:29
term. All right.
35:30
Well continue on then sorry to interrupt.
35:31
Okay. Okay, so so, in order for this
35:35
staff of 100 to be given the ability to eventually Juice with
35:40
human beings. There was a group of volunteers
35:43
taken from, you know, 50 male 50 female volunteers from the
35:48
original human race called the end tonight.
35:52
And so it describes that quote, unquote life plasm was extracted
35:58
from those humans and I think what they're likely talking
36:03
about is stem cells that stem cells were extracted and then
36:07
they were implanted into the bodies that have been been
36:09
specially prepared for the caligastia 100.
36:13
And it says that there were actual surgeons, who would come
36:19
from another local universe and they give the name of that
36:23
universe as Avalon. And it says that those Avalon
36:27
surgeons were the ones who extracted this life plasma and
36:32
transplanted it into the bodies of the caligastia 100.
36:36
Well, now surgeon, As We Know, Surgeons.
36:40
Are there physical? You're going to be you know
36:43
taking something out of a body and putting it into another body
36:47
that requires actual physical you know digits hands you know,
36:52
body's eyes instruments, things like that.
36:56
So this is another reference to to this was those would have
37:00
been another order of high beings who would have been
37:06
visible to humans. These Avalon surgeons And how
37:10
did they get here? They likely got here, you know,
37:14
with some type of advanced technology you know a spacecraft
37:18
or something like that where they actually could have a
37:21
laboratory or think of it like a, at least medical examination
37:26
rooms or something for them to do these surgical procedures,
37:30
that would not have been done, just with simple a simple,
37:36
seraphic transport. Which is what's described
37:40
several times in the Rancho book as how a seraphim Angel might
37:48
have the capacity to envelop. The soul of a human being, who
37:52
has who has died and is now departing from this planet and
37:56
on its journey to to the headquarters world of our local
37:59
system. Well, that's a that's a, that's
38:02
a energetic and miranshah little transaction and transportation.
38:09
But when you have a A surgeon coming from a local Universe
38:11
with instruments and laboratory and all that undoubtedly, they
38:15
came here on some type of craft, okay?
38:18
So so that's, that's an interesting thing to take into
38:22
account and could that have given Legend to or given call
38:26
origin of Legends? You know, I know that the Rancho
38:30
book says that the The Taking of Adam's Rib and creating, he's
38:35
stems from this legend of the surgeries that you refer to now,
38:39
Yes, yes. Um I think that's exactly the
38:42
case. You know, that would have been
38:44
such an amazing event in early human history do it but we found
38:50
that what we find out here is that you know those those
38:58
caligastia 100 you know, not only were they they tall and
39:04
Brilliant wise, incredible physical specimens and they were
39:09
The primary teachers of all of the early humans who were
39:13
brought to that that capital city of Dalmatia and they would
39:19
have been in the minds of those primitive humans.
39:22
These would have been gods and goddesses and so many of the
39:27
legends that came from you know the The Legend of the sons of
39:32
God coming down rock. There's a there's a there's a
39:35
passage in actually a couple of Passages in the Urantia book
39:41
that speaks to what those Genesis versus really met and
39:49
that, you know, when it says you know the the sons of God came
39:54
into meaning made it with the daughters of men and then they
39:59
gave birth to the Mighty Men of old that that that's a reference
40:06
to the the early, the early. Early progeny of.
40:11
The these caligastia 100 who actually had gone into rebellion
40:17
and well, now we're getting way ahead of everybody.
40:20
So let's slow down a little bit because, you know, this is a
40:23
time line that stretches and I want to stay focused a little
40:26
bit on on again, you know, the essence of this is to introduce,
40:31
to people the answers to a lot of these mysterious questions.
40:35
And so you now we're into that phase and the This group that
40:40
you're talking about Joel came down to us and are now referred
40:44
to in the Bible as the no tights, the land east of the
40:48
Land of Nod. So yeah, those not I those not
40:54
i'ts. Were they were from a of the
40:59
original 100 staff 60 of them are described as having joined
41:05
into the Rebellion, that was Not just the Lucifer Rebellion that
41:13
affected our whole local system, but the caligastia portion
41:19
basically the planetary Prince of our planet, his part in the
41:23
Rebellion. So it's more specific to our
41:26
planet and that 60 of his staff joined him as a rebel and that
41:33
immediately he ordered them to start reproducing with each
41:38
other. So there's You know, there's 30
41:41
emails, 30, females of this of this group of the, these
41:46
essentially super Mortals and they start reproducing, and
41:51
their progeny basically came to be known as the not.
41:56
I, it's because named after pretty much the leader, one of
42:00
the leaders of that Rebel group. And, you know, not not, I group
42:07
had a lot to do with the Went accounts that are in ancient
42:13
texts including in the Genesis account in the Bible.
42:16
Then it says that these na tights were indeed the Nephilim
42:23
that referred to, in the biblical Genesis account and the
42:28
not I represented the eighth race on Urantia.
42:34
So the original race would have been the and denied then You had
42:40
the six different colored races that came along a half million
42:46
years after the end of night. So now we've got the total seven
42:50
purely human evolutionary races and now we've got the not I who
42:55
were these super Mortals who had come from these other planets
43:00
and their progeny are called, you know, the the not h8a
43:06
crates. And so we're now talking to
43:09
100,000 years ago when the not I started and these.
43:14
These people not only were they Superior in virtually every way
43:19
to The evolutionary humans by virtue of their physicality.
43:22
Their intelligence, their spiritual Insight.
43:25
They also lived much much longer.
43:28
So that would have been another one of these attributes that
43:32
would have portrayed them as God like to the early humans.
43:37
And it's Interesting to think about when you look at the
43:43
accounts of Sumerian Kings and how long they supposedly rained?
43:50
And the further they go back in Antiquity, the longer, their
43:54
rain, which implies that. Hey, you know, these guys were
43:58
living hundreds of years as you go further back, but the lives,
44:03
keep getting shorter as you come forward.
44:06
Which also is very similar to The Genesis account.
44:10
When they're talking about, you know, they're tracing the
44:13
lineage from Adam and Eve and forward, you know, Adam
44:17
supposedly in the Bible, you know lives lived what I think
44:21
800 years or something like that and then you have Methuselah a
44:24
thousand years and all these others.
44:27
But basically they're kind of those are reflective of the fact
44:31
that these, you know, these not I, you know, lived very long
44:37
longer than the average human And when we talked about the,
44:41
the Adam and Eve part of this story, they also had lived lived
44:45
very long as well. Anyway it says that these not I
44:53
established for different sensors of civilization.
44:57
There were some that were they called the Western not ice who
45:01
are based primarily around Syria and they became they basically
45:06
were the ancestors of the later Assyrians.
45:10
There were the Eastern not ights who lived kind of east of the
45:14
Euphrates river in. In the land that was later
45:19
considered to be Elam and these were the forerunners of the
45:23
elamites. Then there was the central
45:27
nodites who occupied the kind of classic Mesopotamian Valley
45:32
between the Tigris and Euphrates and they became the and they
45:37
were the ancestors of the Sumerians.
45:39
Who came back to came along much later and then you had the
45:43
northern not Ides who lived up around Eastern Turkey and what's
45:49
present-day Armenia and that would have been the
45:53
civilization. Whose descendants would have
45:57
been the ones who established this.
46:00
Incredible archaeological find at Gobekli Tepe and Gobekli Tepe
46:06
is is in between the region. Syria and Armenia, and Gobekli
46:14
Tepe goes back. There they're dating it now
46:16
about about 12,000 years now, do you think that would have been
46:21
in the area of Lake van, which is named?
46:24
After one of those 100 is south west of Lake Bandits.
46:31
Come Midway in between Syria the northern border of Syria and
46:36
Lake van. So it could have been, you know,
46:39
These could have been descendants of the northern not
46:45
eyes, who were that settlement had been established by one of
46:49
the loyal staff members named Van.
46:53
Yeah. After whom Lake band was named
46:57
and then he also had a human co-worker named Amidon who also,
47:06
you know, did great things. He's described in your answer
47:09
book Is one of the most heroic of the early humans to ever
47:14
live. And what's interesting is that
47:19
those two beings you had band, who was essentially super mortal
47:24
men, you had Amidon who was an evolutionary human, he's one of
47:28
those and nights that that ball and volunteered to go under
47:33
surgery. If I'm right.
47:36
So he's one of those that got the meet the surgeon Ian's from
47:40
Avalon and do a little stem cell cross transference for whatever
47:46
they did. But gone them, both of them,
47:50
both fan and Amidon had in their custody, this special tree or
47:59
shrub, which had been transplanted to the Earth from
48:04
the local system headquarters world and because In there,
48:10
they're super mortal constitution of their bodies.
48:15
They had special. You might think that like, they
48:19
had a special circulatory system in their bodies.
48:23
That that could assimilate some energies that are constantly
48:30
being strained to our planet from space.
48:34
And in order to maintain that, that energy circulatory system
48:38
that sustained Them physically for a long time.
48:42
They had to partake of some part of this special shrub or tree.
48:48
They called it the tree of life we don't know really what it
48:51
look like. I mean was a big tree was a
48:53
shrubs, a bush whatever but they had to partake perhaps and maybe
48:58
berries or some leaves or who knows what but they had to have
49:03
some of that occasionally to, to maintain this this energy
49:08
circulatory. Them that they had, that could
49:11
assimilate these energy frequencies that are that are
49:14
bombarding the planet from space.
49:16
And that essentially gave them immortality status for as long
49:22
as they had access to this tree of life.
49:24
And the maintenance of this, this circulatory system of
49:28
energy, they would essentially be immortal and so it describes
49:35
van and amadon as remaining on this planet.
49:43
For approximately four hundred and sixty five thousand years.
49:49
That's a long time to collect Social Security.
49:53
Yeah, that would bankrupt it right there.
49:55
Just these two. So you think about that.
49:58
So so you know van would have been one of those original staff
50:02
of 100 who came here. Half a million years ago.
50:06
And then the the planetary Rebellion happen. 300,000 years
50:14
later. And it wasn't until the arrival
50:20
of Adam and Eve just 37 thousand years ago, that van and amadon
50:27
took their leave from the planet.
50:29
So, so they lived here, a total of four hundred sixty-five
50:34
thousand years. So just think of the legends
50:37
that that would have created among the primitive human
50:41
people. You have these two who are doing
50:44
amazing things and actually They were the primary architects of
50:48
the Garden of Eden and recruited all the volunteers to to prepare
50:54
the Gardens Road, the eventual arrival of Adam and Eve.
50:57
I mean these two would have been absolutely legendary and and
51:02
even even the name Lake van itself.
51:05
No one knows except those who apparently read the Urantia
51:09
book. No one knows where Lake band.
51:12
Got its name. It's apparently been called van.
51:19
For so long. No one knows where it came from.
51:23
And so I found that very interesting piece of trivia,
51:27
when I start to research Lake van, also interesting that the
51:31
other kingdoms various kingdoms that have existed in the recent
51:36
past and one of them happens to be your options which I find
51:39
strikingly similar to the name. Urantia so.
51:43
Oh good. Yeah, very good point.
51:45
But not that good, but they're so recent in time but it's such
51:49
a fascinating story and I hope that people who Ooh, especially
51:54
if you're new to the some of the concepts that the pictures, the
51:58
pieces of the puzzle seem to fall more aligned.
52:02
When you have this sort of New Perspective that we're talking
52:05
about here, where things are intelligently guided.
52:09
And it's not haphazard and it's not just all these other things
52:13
but there's solidification of these things.
52:17
You're tying all these loose ends together by painting.
52:21
This timeline by timing For us as they say.
52:25
So now, we're in the pre-dawn era of man, and Adam, and Eve
52:30
show up as you mentioned now, Adam.
52:32
Yes, so Adam and Eve show up now.
52:34
They are called The Violet race and there the night race to
52:40
appear on Urantia and like the not ice before them who were not
52:47
native to this planet. Neither were the Violet Race.
52:51
So Adam and Eve. Were these, they were a male and
52:57
a female from a group of being that are referred to as the
53:02
material Sons and Daughters. They ban were they say grilled
53:07
sponsor headquarters and their role in the Universal scheme of
53:16
progression? Is they are called the
53:20
biological up steppers And what their role is to do, is they
53:25
come to an inhabited planet that has had evolutionary humans on
53:32
it for some number of tens of thousands, even hundreds of
53:37
thousands of years doing a slow evolutionary progression.
53:41
And that at a certain point in that that human progression,
53:46
their issues for the the, the announcement at the The at the
53:53
system headquarters that that planet now is going to receive a
53:58
material son and daughter who are the Adam and Eve for that
54:03
planet on our planet. That happened thirty seven
54:06
thousand years ago. And and what the role of a
54:10
material son and daughter is is to first, you know, on their
54:16
arrival kind of establish themselves as the Like a king
54:23
and a queen if you will. It's, you know, although they
54:27
don't like to receive that type of Honor.
54:29
But basically they become the, the heads of the cultural
54:34
administration of the planet and they are normally working in the
54:43
kind of a long with the planetary, prince, who came, you
54:47
know, much earlier in our case that wasn't available because of
54:52
the Rebellion. In of caligastia and his staff.
54:56
So Adam and Eve were here pretty much all alone trying to
55:00
rehabilitate a backward and Confused Humanity, but their
55:05
charge was to Just Produce between them.
55:11
Many generations of Pure Line, descendants, so their own Sons
55:18
and Daughters of the Violet Ray. So pure Blood to send it and
55:25
that they were, they were to continue to just procreate
55:28
between them and their sons and daughters and their
55:32
grandchildren, your grandsons granddaughters.
55:35
So on to procreate among themselves until they had
55:38
established a pure bloodline pool of approximately 500,000
55:45
Violet race and at that point, then they were to intermarry and
55:52
enter. Agreed with the highest of each
55:56
of the evolutionary, human races of which there were seven, there
56:01
were the and, and I and then there was a, you know, red green
56:06
black yellow, blue, and indigo races.
56:12
So that's the way the plan was supposed to go, but it did not
56:18
go that way, because this was such a lonely place for or Adam
56:23
and Eve and, and for their their children because we were so
56:30
backward that they basically decided to take a shortcut And
56:39
the that that shortcut is not quite as its described in the
56:45
Genesis account where, you know, where a serpent tempted, Eve
56:49
with an apple. She ate the apple from the Tree
56:51
of Life and tree of knowledge of Good and Evil and they gave it
56:54
to Adam and they were booted out of the garden, all that wasn't
56:58
quite like that was had nothing to do with eating a forbidden
57:02
fruit. It had to do with with.
57:08
With taking a shortcut from a reproductive standpoint in that
57:13
Eve consented to have sexual relations with one of the not.
57:21
I and that put both both Adam and Eve in a state of default of
57:30
their commission and was a very serious offense.
57:33
It's one they had been warned about repeatedly but You know,
57:38
they Eve succumb to that and Adam immediately basically.
57:46
He started to to sexually reproduce with with other Earth
57:54
evolutionary human women as well to essentially share the fate of
57:59
Eve. He thought that it was likely
58:02
that Eve might actually be removed from the planet because
58:06
of her decision. To to mate with a na tights.
58:14
And so he immediately made with some of the evolutionary human
58:18
women so that he would share the same fate as his mate.
58:24
Now, what ended up happening is they were they lost their
58:27
immortality status because the the tree of life was denied them
58:35
so they no longer had access to To its its leaves and berries or
58:40
fruit or whatever it was and also their their dual
58:45
circulatory system was now compromised as well.
58:50
So they no longer we're going to be have immortality status.
58:55
They now we're going to have a slow deterioration of their
59:00
physical organism, just like every other normal human being
59:04
and they would eventually die a physical death.
59:06
Now, in their case, is it still was Much much longer somewhere
59:11
closer to 400 years. So a lot of Legends would have
59:16
risen around, you know, how long Adam and Eve lived.
59:19
And that, that, of course, is reflected in the Genesis
59:22
account. Some interesting physical
59:25
features of Adam and Eve, they were described as about eight
59:30
feet tall, they were, you know, very attractive.
59:34
They are their bodies glowed with this.
59:38
I saw Violet Hue. That would been very beautiful
59:41
to look at very attractive The Violet race.
59:45
They were described as being the first blond and red-haired race
59:51
on the planet and they were blue eyes.
59:54
So they were been the first ones to have blue eyes as well.
59:58
Do they have larger brains as well?
1:00:02
So, you know, the, this is really interesting from the
1:00:06
standpoint of the Ancient Aliens and Even the modern UFO in ET
1:00:11
lore because one of the race is the ET races.
1:00:17
Like we talked about the Greys earlier but another race that's
1:00:21
frequently described as what are called the nordics and the
1:00:25
nordics are always described in modern UFO lore as being Tall
1:00:30
Blond and blue eyes interesting. And so what's very interesting
1:00:36
is it? Possible.
1:00:39
That what is, what is being encountered in those cases?
1:00:46
Our Summit in material, son and daughter.
1:00:51
Not Adam and Eve not Adam and Eve because they, you know,
1:00:54
they've long since, you know, left our planet moved on but
1:00:58
it's it's a possibility that that in more recent times maybe
1:01:05
there has been some type of you know kind of scouting Mission or
1:01:10
some type of of you know informational exchange or Who
1:01:16
knows what? Yeah.
1:01:17
Well, those things we always have to speculate on and that's
1:01:21
why these ancient alien shows are so interesting because we
1:01:26
always leave with what if that is, what's happening.
1:01:29
But I want to kind of one thing that threads all of this is the
1:01:33
spiritual aspect which we have to give some attention to.
1:01:37
What would Joel has described in the timeline?
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There's a the motive to all of that is to, is to bring about
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and Cultivate within the human population among the Freewill,
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ascenders is that we're working towards a progressive Society.
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In an era of light and life and True Fellowship and true
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Brotherhood. In every one of these events
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that we've described its explained to narrated in the
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Rancho book, it's about progress that the universe is a
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progressive idea, be perfect, even as I am perfect.
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This is the exhortation that comes out from the The Central
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and divine universe. And so, these things that we
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describe, they're going to be shocking to people who have
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their entire life have heard the Adam and Eve story.
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They may not quite be ready to look at them as space aliens but
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and that's not what we're trying to do here.
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What we're trying to do is is bridge two things together.
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One is, you know, is there other life in the universe?
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Yes. And as this other life, that's
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in the universe, Is it work with us in concert with us?
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Parallel with us? And in all of those things are
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true to a certain degree. But the fact of the matter is as
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we live in an orderly universe and had we been more privy to
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this knowledge at an earlier stage of our development.
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None of this would seem shocking.
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It would seem normal. The idea of extraterrestrial
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visitors coming to us because they're more advanced and they
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have something to share with us is a natural thing that happens.
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And it's not the exception to the rule.
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It is the rule. But for us, we're still in our
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infancy and we're still learning this for the first time.
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And so, it is a little bit of a tectonic shift in our
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complacency do. I think I make myself clear.
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And that's why I wanted to have this discussion in this bridge
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because I think a lot of people would be relieved to say, wow,
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this could be right, you know, maybe I'm not an Orphan in the
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universe, maybe I'm not isolated, maybe it isn't.
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Just. Yeah, yeah, Jeff gem, you did a
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great job in describing that, you know, that whole purpose
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that was quite the way you spoke of that.
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It's very purposeful and what's going on, it's not an accident.
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All of these developments, you know, the perversion of our
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history came about because of the Rebellion.
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You know in that was willfully chosen but it also put Earth
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Humanity on a very disadvantaged and difficult path and part a
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big reason or the arrival of the Rancher, Revelation on our
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planet is to correct these distortions in history and we'll
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say what you see when you examine the book is that the
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history that's presented makes a lot more sense.
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It is more comprehensive, it's more coherent.
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It's more complete and it's consistent.
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Yeah, much more. So than anything else you find,
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whether they are scriptural, writings or archaeological
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findings, or what have you, it makes so much sense.
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And, and I think that that's one of the tremendous aspects of the
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books appeal. Even if someone is look, is
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reading it as a historical. Count.
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And without even the spiritual implications, which are immense.
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But if they were just looking at it, just with a curiosity to
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see, what does it say about the historical account of the
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planet? It makes so much more sense than
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than any other literature you'll find on the plant and I want to
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close because I think we've there's a natural point to.
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I think where we can bring this to a close.
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There's an article I think I Sent it to you.
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Joel, it's an article that talks about the migration patterns of
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early man that was just printed today, it's in the news.
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I'll try to put it up on my website, but if you superimpose
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the migration map, that archaeologists are now saying
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probably happened and you match it with the explanation of the
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migratory, my great migration of human evolution there, they're
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completely superimposed. They actually fit This is 2022.
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We're now reading, they're upgrading their ideas about
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human migrations and they fit the Urantia narrative.
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That's that's profound. So right.
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Yeah. And so yeah, any closing
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thoughts Joel? Yeah I think the the last the
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last thing would be, you know, folks wonder where these
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megalithic structures come from whether the pyramids or these
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obelisks or he's Great Walls, and all these things, that that
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people questioned. Gosh.
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How did these ancient peoples build those?
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And we couldn't even do it with our own modern technology.
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Well look, we'll see what the ranch book has to say about the
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and a'ight people's. They were the progeny the, the
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mixture between the not Ides and the atom mites, you know,
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between the not I ate the race and the, The Violet ninth race
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And those endyte people's were great, Builders great,
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explorers, they were Architects Engineers, remember they?
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They were the, the ants, they were the descendants of beings
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who were familiar with high technology from.
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So when I think a Nana amenhotep Tutankhamun, the early kings of
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Egypt, these are the descendants of those people.
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So they, you know, and even And Abraham, a Sumerian a descendant
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of the as you called the northern nodites that go back,
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30, 40 thousand even 100,000 years, so?
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Yeah, it's just, it's incredible.
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I really enjoyed talking with you today, Joel and I know we'll
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have you back on. There's so much stuff that we
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can cover and I really appreciate your perspective on a
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lot of this. It's, um, it's just it's fun to
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do and it's fun to listen and I hope that it isn't as, yeah.
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It won't. Yeah.
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So we'll do it again. Absolutely.
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And again, thank you for joining us on the Rancho Radio podcast.
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I want to throw a mention out that in July because it is
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approaching. There is going to be a summit in
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Chicago. Go to the Rancho dot org
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website. There are going to be
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celebrating Melchizedek. Well we'll talk to you again
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Joel. Thank you again and we'll leave
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it here on the ranch Radio podcast.