Latest / My Third Place Pod / How to Start a Podcast: Real Lessons From My Journey (FAQ Part 1)
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- 0:00Love it, love it. Yes, I'm blowing into your ear.
- 0:04This one's a little different. No rundown, no pod decks, no
- 0:12chaos outline taped to the desk. Just me and the story behind the
- 0:17mic. Because this episode is for the
- 0:20people who keep saying I've been thinking about starting
- 0:22something. The ones with a note app full of
- 0:25ideas, a microphone bookmark, a name picked out and the 100
- 0:30reasons why they haven't hit record yet.
- 0:33It's for the people who don't know if they want a podcast.
- 0:37They just know they need somewhere to put their slots,
- 0:39some order, some structure, some space to talk about their life,
- 0:43their niche, their mental health, or just to feel like
- 0:48they're building something that's theirs.
- 0:50And weirdly enough, this all started the same way a lot of us
- 0:54things did for us. With a button.
- 0:57We were scared, depressed back when we were kids, fumbling with
- 1:02a Walkman, trying to time to record button just right,
- 1:07interviewing our friends on the playground about the newest
- 1:10song, the newest show or whatever everyone was obsessed
- 1:14with that week. No audience, no algorithm, just
- 1:19curiosity and the feeling of what if.
- 1:23This turns into something. Fast forward and here we are.
- 1:30Welcome to the M3P podcast if you're new here.
- 1:34My third place is usually where nostalgia, fandom, pop culture,
- 1:38and everyday life collide. We talk movies, TV, Pokémon,
- 1:43comics, wrestling, games, and the stories that stick with us
- 1:47long after the hype fades. But this series, This is
- 1:52something else. This is about the why behind the
- 1:55mic. I've been podcasting since 2022
- 2:01and before that Co hosting, guesting and building shows with
- 2:06friends. I've hit record when I felt
- 2:09ready, I've hit record when I absolutely didn't.
- 2:12I've stared at waveforms wondering if any of this
- 2:14mattered and I watched it slowly become something I couldn't
- 2:18imagine my life without. Over the next few episodes we're
- 2:22going to talk about the real stuff.
- 2:24How to start, where people get stuck, what to do, what not to
- 2:28do, where to post, how to stay consistent with motivation dips,
- 2:33The anxiety of hearing your own voice or this right here, The
- 2:40fear of nobody listening and the moment you realize you still do
- 2:46it even if no one else did. This is going to be story time.
- 2:52This is question driven. This is the stuff I wish someone
- 2:54had told me earlier in 2022, on Episode 1 perhaps, maybe be, or
- 3:04even before that. Not as an expert, not as a guru,
- 3:09but as someone who pressed record anyway and kept showing
- 3:14up, kept being consistent, kept hustling, kept building, kept
- 3:21trying to run it. A community that, yes, if you're
- 3:30building something new or thinking about it or just need a
- 3:32loud a loud, If you're building something new or thinking about
- 3:38it or just need a lighthouse to aim toward, you're in the right
- 3:42place. This is my third place, and
- 3:45tonight we're talking about how it all started and why hitting
- 3:50record might change more than you think.
- 3:53So let's get into it. All right?
- 3:57January is the season where a lot of people start thinking
- 4:02about podcasting. It's when people start
- 4:05reflecting on their lives, their niche, their voice, or at least
- 4:09wondering, what do I want to do differently this year?
- 4:13Cut my hair? Do I want to dye my hair?
- 4:15Do I want to shave my beard? Do I want to just trim it?
- 4:18Do I want to have a mullet? I did that.
- 4:25I did. Unfortunately, I did that in
- 4:29freaking years ago. It's so long ago.
- 4:34It was a mullet. I did the mullet thing.
- 4:36I'm sorry, I apologize, but I thought it was funny.
- 4:41I did it. I did it for the TikTok, people
- 4:43did things for the Vine, I did it for the TikTok, I wanted to
- 4:47do it for the TikTok. I wanted to have a mullet and I
- 4:49did it, sorry. And because of that, I got
- 4:53asked. You do you.
- 4:55And because of that, I get asked a lot on how this podcast
- 4:59actually started. So instead of pretending there
- 5:02was more perfectly mapped out plan, I want to walk through it.
- 5:07Honestly, this isn't a highlight reel.
- 5:10This is more of an FAQ questions I asked myself now knowing what
- 5:16I didn't know back then. This is going to be Part 1 of
- 5:20like, I don't know, it's like 4 parts probably.
- 5:22Maybe more parts, maybe more questions will happen.
- 5:27And just real quick before we start, it's almost the end of
- 5:31January. I know.
- 5:33I apologize I am late. I I should have done this at the
- 5:38beginning of the year. I was contemplating on it.
- 5:42I had it all written out. I had it all figured out.
- 5:46I had it like all the questions were ready.
- 5:47I was ready and then I didn't do it.
- 5:49It just I failed. I I didn't fail, but I just
- 5:54forgot to press record on it, which will translate if you're,
- 6:01if you're still listening to this late, if you're thinking I
- 6:05missed my window just the same way I did, you didn't.
- 6:07We didn't miss our window, OK, just like I am right now.
- 6:13You can start anytime. There's a reason for that
- 6:15mistake, and that's the reason January just reminds people they
- 6:20want to. It just reminded me that I
- 6:22wanted to do this for this, this episode, but I never got around
- 6:27to it. But now I did.
- 6:28Here it is. I'm giving it to you.
- 6:38So 10 frequently asked questions that I get asked.
- 6:44Oh, here they are. That's what she said.
- 6:48AQ number one, what was going on in my life when the idea for the
- 6:52podcast first showed up? I officially started a podcast
- 6:57in 2022, but the year before that was rough.
- 7:00Like real, real, real rough. Like, rough, rough dog bark
- 7:06rough. I had just been diagnosed with
- 7:10type 2 diabetes. I had been hospitalized because
- 7:14of it. I almost went into DKA.
- 7:17For those that don't know, it's a coma.
- 7:22Diabetic acidosis. It's rough.
- 7:25It's it's rough. I have like, yeah, I took three
- 7:30months just to get my A1C back into a safer range and then
- 7:34another three months to get it into better condition.
- 7:37And during that time, I was under constant stress, watching
- 7:40numbers, worrying about food, worrying about long term damage,
- 7:42worrying about everything, like drink water instead of this, eat
- 7:50this instead of that. It was, it was so consuming.
- 7:55I'm glad I'm better. Thank you, menace.
- 7:58Depression hit again hard. At the same time I was reading a
- 8:02book about podcasting, how to do it, why people do it, and I was
- 8:06listening to a lot of podcast. I, I have show and tell,
- 8:11obviously I have show and tell. So I was reading this book,
- 8:17Podcasting for Dummies. I know the name.
- 8:22It's like, I didn't see the title at first, but I was like,
- 8:25all right, podcasting, let's see, like a normal person could
- 8:29do it. So I want to say it's 370 pages
- 8:38of just learning, reading, grinding through this and like
- 8:49it's a great book to have to learn about this.
- 8:53And it worked. There's another book that I got
- 8:56in because I wanted to read it too, and it was this one 101
- 9:02podcast episode templates. This is like after just after a
- 9:10bunch of stuff. The podcast has already been a
- 9:13year old. So I bought this book and just I
- 9:18realized, you know what, I need to do more stuff on there.
- 9:21So This is why more prompts, more templates.
- 9:28And yeah, those are the two books that I had.
- 9:32Yes, it is a good book for me. So I was reading those books on
- 9:45how to do, why people do it, listening to a lot of podcasts,
- 9:49and I realized something. I didn't need motivation as much
- 9:51as I needed organization. I needed direction.
- 9:55I needed something that felt like mine.
- 9:58The first idea that came to mind was Wrestling previously,
- 10:02because it was familiar, it felt safe.
- 10:04I thought I could just talk about my favorite memories.
- 10:07This shows I love the wrestlers I'd met along the way.
- 10:10Y'all heard stories already? They're they're all the way in
- 10:14back in the first year, second year also they're they're all
- 10:19the way back. There a lot of stories about
- 10:22wrestling that you guys would definitely love.
- 10:24My experience as a Comic Con, me meeting Mick Foley, Virgil,
- 10:34what's his name, Grandmaster Sexy.
- 10:39All these stories, just they're, they're, they're right there.
- 10:42You, you would love them. Then I saw eventually I could
- 10:48talk about diabetes. I can intersect it with
- 10:51wrestling wrestlers who have diabetes, how they manage it,
- 10:55how to keep going. That's where wrestling with
- 10:58diabetes came from. But then you know what?
- 11:02I made wrestling with diabetes my own thing, a hashtag for
- 11:06myself. Yeah, other people are using it.
- 11:09You're like wrestling with high diabetes as, you know, high
- 11:16school wrestling and diabetes. And I love that.
- 11:19I love that for them. They're doing, they're doing
- 11:21amazing, a mob that are recording their their sons and
- 11:25their how they're dealing with diabetes as young kids.
- 11:28And you know, they're in the on the wrestling team as well.
- 11:33I support that. I really do.
- 11:36But mine is more like, get up and dance, do stuff, do stuff
- 11:43and, you know, work yourself out of this A1C stuff.
- 11:49So like, mine is really like, just move around and have fun
- 11:55with it. That's my wrestling with
- 11:56diabetes. By December of 2021, I was
- 12:03tinkering with software, testing things out, but I still hadn't
- 12:07pressed record. And then I just had the thought
- 12:11maybe in January, instead of jumping between social apps, I
- 12:15take a break and actually do this and press record.
- 12:19And I did. I disappeared from an app, from
- 12:24all these apps, every app that was like taking my time.
- 12:29That was like, I want, I don't want to say wasting my time, but
- 12:34that was like, you know, I was doing time on.
- 12:41I paused it for a minute and just, you know what?
- 12:46It's too many people for me to say bye to, to say anything to.
- 12:50So I just dipped out. I left.
- 12:53I didn't tell anybody anything. I pieced out of these apps and
- 12:57just walked away. And I ventured into a new thing,
- 13:03a thing for my own. And I wanted to do this thing on
- 13:06my own. And I did #2 Did I always want
- 13:12to start a podcast? Yes, I did, I totally did.
- 13:17When I was a kid, my cousin showed me a cassette tape he
- 13:19recorded himself pretending to be a morning radio DJ.
- 13:23He would play songs, come back from them, announce the artist,
- 13:27and he would interview himself using different voices.
- 13:32Obviously at the time we didn't have cause like C DS, I think,
- 13:40but we have liner notes in the cassette and we would like try
- 13:45to find out about these people and like he did knowing now like
- 13:49we can find it on anything anywhere, even ChatGPT.
- 13:54And So what he did was like try to pretend to be that artist and
- 14:04just he would interview himself. He would interview and pretend
- 14:09to be that person. He would do other voices and
- 14:11stuff. He would do other voice and
- 14:14stuff. And somehow, like, it felt like
- 14:17a radio DJ stuff, you know, and like today that would be
- 14:25considered a podcast. So, you know, that stuck with
- 14:29me. Like if he can do it, maybe I
- 14:32could do it too. But my version of it, you know,
- 14:36like, see someone else do something, but, you know, try to
- 14:40capitalize in it, on it and do something with it as well, but
- 14:43do something better with it. So my version of it was grabbing
- 14:47a tape recorder and using my friends, just hang out with them
- 14:53and like, you know, talk about comic books, wrestling, music,
- 14:56whatever we went into at the time, mostly wrestling.
- 15:01It was mostly wrestling. Hey, what do you think of this
- 15:04guy? Yeah.
- 15:05Hey, you know, like, you know, walk around and do some crazy
- 15:08stuff. Music.
- 15:10We would listen to music and then it was like, you know what,
- 15:13pause it and just keep singing it.
- 15:17OPP. Like there was, we would be
- 15:20singing OPP that you know me. What does it mean?
- 15:25I don't know. It's like, hey, what does it
- 15:26mean? What do you think it means?
- 15:27What do you think OPP means? And like, I feel like shove it
- 15:29in everybody's faces. And it's like, you know, like, I
- 15:32don't know, you know, we would have hard conversations about
- 15:35freaking music and stuff. Well, like, not pretending to be
- 15:39someone else, but at the same time, like, yeah, that's my
- 15:42favorite artist. Who's your favorite artist?
- 15:43All right, cool. All right, so I told you that
- 15:48story to tell you this story. Fast forward to around 2010.
- 15:51I became friends with a group of podcasters through Facebook.
- 15:54Back when Facebook was really popping.
- 15:57I asked a simple question. How do you start a podcast?
- 16:00What do I need? I posted all over the socials.
- 16:03Twitter. Yeah, I think I said that's all
- 16:06I had at the time. I didn't have Insta.
- 16:10I didn't know what Insta was. I had Tumblr.
- 16:16Yeah, I had Tumblr. I did that too on Tumblr, but
- 16:18nobody knew a shit about that on Tumblr either.
- 16:20So I was like, whatever. Ah, so nobody answered.
- 16:24Nobody helped obviously. Like I even checked in on those
- 16:30guys and be like, that's a lot of work.
- 16:32You you don't want to know. It's a lot of work.
- 16:35It's a lot of equipment and blah, blah, blah.
- 16:37And there was a lot of equipment for them.
- 16:39I seen them like haul ass. Just equipment of a bunch of
- 16:43stuff, a freaking big ass computer and all this stuff.
- 16:47But at the same time, like at least tell me something, you
- 16:51know, something cheaper that would work, you know.
- 16:56But that was back then. But I was been like podcasts
- 17:00weren't a thing at a time. There were just like underground
- 17:05radio stations or something like that.
- 17:07And nobody knew how to do 1. Like and if you did, you had
- 17:11like a bunch of money and you bought like big ass equipment
- 17:15and shit. The nobody answered.
- 17:17Nobody helped basically in 2017 when I was unemployed.
- 17:21Other times I was unemployed. This is before the casino.
- 17:24One of my best friends asked me to Co host his podcast, Drink it
- 17:27Up. He would drink, I would not, and
- 17:30I'd basically translate. Whatever chaos was happening
- 17:33went off the rails. Every episode was off the rails.
- 17:39It's like every episode had just like the most insane stuff that
- 17:44he would talk about, that he would talk about.
- 17:45I would just be like, uh huh, yeah, all right, sure.
- 17:50We did about 13 episodes and I remember being 13 because we was
- 17:56think of this as our kid. This podcast is our kid.
- 18:00And once it turned 13, we're like, oh, the podcast 1313.
- 18:04The podcast is a teenager now and still not old enough to
- 18:07drink, but old enough to drive. So the podcast is now our
- 18:12designated driver. Yeah, we did 13 episodes, but
- 18:19that was it. And that 13th episode being
- 18:22ended up being on Halloween 13 Halloween.
- 18:26It wasn't good. It was it wasn't good.
- 18:32We both found was like this is way before we both found jobs.
- 18:37He found a job and then I ended up working at the casino and
- 18:44like a weeks later we did the 14th episode and we were like,
- 18:48OK, let I think we owe it to the fans of drinking up whoever the
- 18:53fans wear to like, you know, do one more episode and put it in
- 18:59there and tell them what we're going to do now.
- 19:00It's like, all right, we did that.
- 19:02And we told them it's like, hey, we we're venturing off on our
- 19:06own. We're doing other stuff as well.
- 19:08And at the same time we were posting the stuff on Twitter.
- 19:12We were helping each other out, helping each other grow.
- 19:15Other podcasters were helping us.
- 19:17We were helping them and like after that I just decided not to
- 19:25listen to those podcasts because I didn't have time anymore.
- 19:27I was working at the casino, I was working a big job and it was
- 19:31crazy. And so the dream faded.
- 19:3520/20/2020 happened, which would have been the perfect time to
- 19:39start. Nope, that that didn't end up
- 19:45happening. Y'all know why?
- 19:46Y'all know the reason why that didn't end up happening?
- 19:51Some little small app I don't know just came around decided
- 19:56hey, you should look at this video and I'm like looking at
- 19:59this video and like before I know it I was on this app for
- 20:03like the entire day. I forgot what what I was
- 20:05supposed to be doing. I just came in to look at one
- 20:08video a friend showed me and then I'm stuck here forever.
- 20:14TikTok guys, you all know this TikTok.
- 20:19It wasn't until late 2021 that I realized I didn't just have that
- 20:23a diabetes story. I had stories about my
- 20:26childhood, my trauma, my nerddom, my fandom, my interest,
- 20:31everything, wrestling, everything, everything.
- 20:35Comic books, all the stories, and I could tell them in a
- 20:40pretty much decent way. I had more to say than I sought,
- 20:49anyway. Question #3 what problem was I
- 20:52trying to solve for myself? I was looking for answers.
- 20:59Like all the answers, everything.
- 21:01Like looking for answers, especially about diabetes.
- 21:05Wrestling was something I love talking about comic books,
- 21:11everything. I was just looking for answers.
- 21:12I wanted answers. I had so many questions.
- 21:16I wanted to put some questions up.
- 21:19How do you deal with diabetes at like because I got them like
- 21:24weeks before my 40th birthday. Like what the fuck What what you
- 21:28know, how do you deal with diabetes?
- 21:32So what first thing you do is check out Google.
- 21:36You Google it. I was looking for support.
- 21:38I was, I was Googling stuff. I joined a diabetes group on
- 21:43Facebook and saw how powerful shared stories were, people
- 21:47talking about how what worked for them, what didn't, how they
- 21:50coped. So I did some of the stuff that
- 21:55they did. I did my own stuff.
- 21:58And then once I got that first A1C of 6.5 of straight out of a
- 22:0715.3, I told them about it. They were excited, they were
- 22:13proud. And then all I got was a bunch
- 22:16of messages. How did you do it?
- 22:18Are you serious? Oh my God, that is so amazing.
- 22:20That is so awesome. Tell us.
- 22:22Please tell us. You know, like, yeah, this is
- 22:24what I did. Listen to your doctor.
- 22:27What? Listen to your doctor.
- 22:30Everything your doctor has said, listen to what has your doctor
- 22:33has said? Do it.
- 22:35I did this. I did this, I did this.
- 22:38I did this. I walked, I ran.
- 22:40I freaking worked out. I joined lives that were doing
- 22:47DJ stuff, that were playing music and I would tell them,
- 22:50hey, I have diabetes, can you please play this song so I can
- 22:53work out while I'm listening to you?
- 22:55They said, yeah, sure, let's go, let's do that.
- 23:00I did wrestling with diabetes hashtag obviously.
- 23:03I would dance along, do all that kind of stuff and they knew it
- 23:07was fun. It was fun.
- 23:09I would walk out, I would walk around the freaking
- 23:12neighborhood. It was great.
- 23:14So much fun around there. That's why there's only like 3
- 23:21diabetes focused episodes. There's a fourth one, but that's
- 23:24like wrestling with mental health.
- 23:27I think it was wrestling mental health and wrestling with my
- 23:31back issues and that one was the first time I ever went to a
- 23:37chiropractor and it was the result of all that stuff.
- 23:50And the diabetes episode. Each one came from someone
- 23:53else's experiences, my own experiences as well.
- 23:58I like there was 1 episode where like as you all know, your
- 24:05diabetes episode of my favorites.
- 24:06I love listening to your stories.
- 24:07Thank you. Thank you, miss.
- 24:08I appreciate that. As you all know, I came from
- 24:10Tumblr. So like there was this I posted
- 24:16that I had diabetes. How do you do this?
- 24:18How do you cope? All that stuff.
- 24:20And I got a lot of obviously, if the, if it's about health and
- 24:25mental health, whatever kind of health, people will answer right
- 24:29away and we'll give you like, you know, all this stuff.
- 24:31That's the stuff. There's one person that like had
- 24:34diabetes and she showed me her video that she had done years
- 24:38ago and on YouTube. So I watched the video, I
- 24:43listened to everything and all that stuff.
- 24:45And then I messaged her. I was like, hey, is it OK this
- 24:51way before? I started episode a year before.
- 24:55So this is a year before it's like I'm going to start doing a
- 24:58podcast. Is it OK if I use your video as
- 25:02a tool to help others as well and post it on my podcast and
- 25:07these messages as well that you're sending me?
- 25:10It's like, yes. She said yes.
- 25:12It took her a while to answer, but at the end she said yes.
- 25:16So I said OK, great. And I use that as well.
- 25:18I said like, you know, I read verbatim what she had said and
- 25:23then I decided to put the audio of what she was saying into the
- 25:32episode. That was when you could put
- 25:34audio and like the the system that I was using was great
- 25:41anchor. That's when you could like edit
- 25:44and do all kinds of stuff. And now it's just like, I got to
- 25:47use this new system, use new platform stuff.
- 25:53But I didn't want to just preach.
- 25:57I wanted to listen, learn and share.
- 25:59And I shared everything about what she had told.
- 26:08And those, those episodes are great.
- 26:10You know, they're, they're out there, like I could put in like
- 26:13a three, there's three episodes and they're like 30 minutes I
- 26:17think each. So I could probably combine them
- 26:20into one episode and repost them.
- 26:23And so you could hear it. And I'll probably do that around
- 26:26the summer. Ah, question #4 what almost
- 26:33stopped me from starting oversinking.
- 26:37A lot of oversinking. Everything was running in my
- 26:41head. What if it fails?
- 26:44What if nobody listens? What if I get trolled?
- 26:49What if Spotify does at least because I said something wrong
- 26:51or use copyright music? What if my family listens and
- 26:55zincs are stupid Every what if you can imagine all stacked on
- 27:01top of each other and it was insane.
- 27:07Was like you know what? I'm not going to do this, I'm
- 27:10going to do this. I'm not going to do this.
- 27:12I don't want to do this. Maybe it's not for me.
- 27:16This is too hard for me. No, it's not.
- 27:19And it just reminds me of one of my favorite TikTok creators now.
- 27:24And he been my one of my favorites since like I joined
- 27:282020, but now he's just recently followed me.
- 27:31That's fucking awesome. I love it.
- 27:36Jimmy Musial. Musial, if you don't know,
- 27:40excuse me, Musio and he had a post a video up this past year,
- 27:482024 I believe, where he says if you're going to do something, do
- 27:54it scare. And had he had told me this,
- 27:57like had he had posted this like freaking a long time ago, in
- 28:012022, in 2021, I would have listened.
- 28:06I would have just like, you know what, just do it.
- 28:08Let's do it, let's do it. But he's saying it now.
- 28:11And like when I heard it, I said, yes, there are so many
- 28:15things that I've tried doing and I was scared of doing it.
- 28:19And he said, what? What's going to happen?
- 28:21What's the worst thing that's going to happen?
- 28:22No, he's going to listen to it, but you're going to do it.
- 28:25You're going to freaking post it.
- 28:26You're going to do it all. So, and he just reminded me
- 28:29like, yes, that's how what I was thinking at the time.
- 28:35I was overthinking it. I was, I wasn't thinking like,
- 28:39you know, do it for yourself. I was thinking it, you know,
- 28:41what if nobody wants to listen and blah, blah, blah.
- 28:43I was like, you know what, no, And then I decided, all right,
- 28:48I'm going to do it, but I'm just going to do it for myself.
- 28:50I'm just going to like post it and see what happens, you know,
- 28:53whatever, whatever. So shout out to Jimmy Moosville,
- 28:58by the way, one of my favorite TikTok Raiders following me
- 29:03back. I love it.
- 29:04He's also on twitch. He's a really good gamer, great
- 29:06gamer. I love watching his live because
- 29:08he's playing little nightmares. It's freaking awesome.
- 29:11He's like he he's it's ASMR. OK, he's doing play by play of
- 29:20him just like, all right, but now I got to do this.
- 29:25I got to jump on the scene. No, no, Oh no, and everything
- 29:30from even from crash outs, even from crash house.
- 29:34It's like, oh, come on, can't believe that happened.
- 29:37Oh man, come on. He doesn't overreact.
- 29:40It's just he whispers because the whole thing is dark and he
- 29:45feels like he has to whisper. So he whispers that and we hear
- 29:48him, but it's like at the same time it's like this is so
- 29:50freaking hilarious. It's so funny and I love that.
- 29:53So shout out to Jimmy Mujo. Awesome.
- 29:57Question number 5, was there a moment when I finally said, OK,
- 30:01I'm doing this? It was, it was, there was and it
- 30:07wasn't dramatic. It was just realizing that it
- 30:10didn't start. If it didn't start, I still be
- 30:14saying one day years later. That's why I chose January.
- 30:18New year, new me. That's what everybody sings,
- 30:21right? New year, new me, fresh start,
- 30:24something different. And that's what I did at the
- 30:27time. It's like, you know, I kept
- 30:29thinking like, new year, new me. Yeah, this is what I have going
- 30:33on now. You know, all this shit.
- 30:36I didn't have a laptop. Everything was written in a
- 30:39notebook with messy bullet points.
- 30:41I need to find that because I know I have it somewhere where
- 30:44I'm just like, writing stuff down.
- 30:46Matches, winners, what time the freaking match ended, all kinds
- 30:54of stuff. And then me writing down all
- 30:56kinds of stuff and it hurt my risk because I'm not a type, I'm
- 30:59not a writer. I'm on the phone doing this and
- 31:03doing scrolling and doing all that shit and going like that.
- 31:06I don't write anymore. I would love to see what that
- 31:08looks like too. I don't know where it's at.
- 31:10It's it was what, five years ago?
- 31:14Four years ago, it was four years ago, I grabbed my
- 31:22notebook. So I grabbed a notebook.
- 31:24I grabbed the phone and recorded the first episode, not knowing
- 31:26what to make of it and word bomb it.
- 31:30As they say, word bomb it. It was the most horrible episode
- 31:34ever. Which goes into question number
- 31:40six. Do I remember recording my first
- 31:42episode? I do.
- 31:50I was nervous. I was anxious.
- 31:52I was, yeah, worried. Vomiting.
- 31:56I second guessed everything. I kept reminding myself it was
- 32:00just for fun. My thoughts about how I fell in
- 32:04love with wrestling. How about what I thought about
- 32:08this match? What I thought about this match,
- 32:10What I thought about these wrestlers freaking why I fell in
- 32:17love with wrestling, why I stopped watching it, why I came
- 32:21back to watching it. Why is I love WE who my favorite
- 32:28wrestler was, who ended up who started my love for wrestling
- 32:32where my entry point was a www.tna All the wrestling
- 32:38companies that I've ever been in, all the everything wrestling
- 32:40that I've ever seen, It's just like, yeah, I just needed to
- 32:45talk. I did in a place where I'm seen
- 32:50all the time dancing and singing and acting crazy and doing
- 32:55stupid things. When you put me in front of a
- 32:59microphone, I ended up blabbering and talking and all
- 33:03this stuff. And the only ever time that I
- 33:05ever did say stuff on the here was like, I don't know, a few
- 33:14videos. And even then it's just like, I
- 33:17don't like the sound of my voice.
- 33:18I hate it. I hate the way I just sounded.
- 33:20Oh my God, no Umm, but coming back and doing the podcast and
- 33:30recording it now I understand now that I, the way I talk, you
- 33:36know, I have a, a new cadence basically.
- 33:43But you know, when I first recorded proud of you think
- 33:46you're proud of you too. When I first recorded the first
- 33:50episode, it sounded like it was recorded in a basement.
- 33:55It basically was. You can hear the heater kicking
- 33:58in like it's kicking in now, but you can't hear it because of
- 34:01this new microphone that I have right here.
- 34:03Oh yeah, Echo, this is basically what it sounded like on in the
- 34:13basement. This all the stuff that was out
- 34:16here echoing. Yeah, my voice was low.
- 34:22The the heater overpowered my voice and it wasn't as it is
- 34:27like now. Like I understand ASMR where I
- 34:30can just talk like this and talk low and lower and that.
- 34:36It wasn't like that. It was more lower than you
- 34:38remember. You know that one girl from
- 34:41Pitch Perfect, the one you can barely hear.
- 34:43Understand. That's how I sounded like it.
- 34:54Yeah, her. That's like, that's how I
- 34:56sounded like at the time, my voice was low.
- 35:00Heater repowered it. And not only that, we all start
- 35:04somewhere. Exactly.
- 35:05We all start somewhere. We all start somewhere.
- 35:10I wanted to include music. I didn't know what I was doing,
- 35:14but at the same time, everything about this first episode was
- 35:19real. It was raw, It was rough, but it
- 35:23was real. I enjoyed doing it, I had fun
- 35:27doing it. I didn't know that something was
- 35:30wrong. It was my first time ever and I
- 35:34didn't listen to it back until it was on there.
- 35:41Which goes into question #7 how long did I sit on that first
- 35:45episode before posting it? Not long.
- 35:49And so I made a mistake because I added music.
- 35:55It was copyrighted. I used Welcome Home by Coheed
- 36:03and Cambra because it reminded me of the original black and
- 36:07gold NXT. That episode got flagged and
- 36:12never went up. It became it was it was called
- 36:15episode 0. So a week later I record again,
- 36:21no music and posted it. And you know, like I didn't do
- 36:25episode 0 again. I did episode 1.
- 36:31It wouldn't let me save it either.
- 36:33For some reason it wouldn't let me save it or else I would have
- 36:35saved it, taking the music out, try to do all that stuff and
- 36:39just repost it. But it wouldn't let me up until
- 36:42I think two years ago when I posted it, I screen recorded
- 36:51everything because I was on anchor and I screen recorded
- 36:55everything. And then I like, alright, I'm
- 36:57going to take off the music and I'm gonna let it just play out,
- 37:00see what happens. And I did.
- 37:03And that was episode 0 and it was the most horrible episode
- 37:06ever. Like listening back to it, it's
- 37:09just you got to start somewhere. And that's how I started.
- 37:13And from then on, from that point on, from the not through
- 37:16episode 0, from first episode, like, wow, like I, I, I changed
- 37:25a lot. It was a lot of change.
- 37:26All right, we're almost done here.
- 37:30We're at question #8. I love it.
- 37:35What was I'm most afraid people would think that it didn't
- 37:40matter, that it was pointless, that I was talking into the
- 37:47voice, talking into the boy, can you hear me now?
- 37:56And I was talking to the boy, that people would listen just to
- 37:59make fun of my opinions. The fear sticks with you longer
- 38:03than people admit is true. You're scared at the same time.
- 38:08I understand now. Do it Scared.
- 38:11And like, what was I saying at the house at the time?
- 38:16Umm, you take 100% of the shots, you miss 100% of the shots you
- 38:22don't take. Yeah.
- 38:27And I was like, you know what, let's just do it.
- 38:30I don't care what people think. I don't care.
- 38:34I'm just going to do my own thing.
- 38:36I had a podcast rate me, rate my podcast.
- 38:43I shouldn't have done that. I don't know why I did that, but
- 38:47they did and I'm not going to tell you who they are.
- 38:50I still listen to them sometimes.
- 38:52I still support them. They still support me.
- 38:55Umm, since then they told me I've come a long way.
- 38:59So I come along. I have come a long way but and
- 39:04when I sent them, I was like, hey, can you listen to this?
- 39:06Like I didn't ask for a rate, but at the same time I was like,
- 39:09hey, I'm going to rate it. I was like no.
- 39:11So here it is. This is 6.
- 39:13I was like what? It's niche.
- 39:17It's wrestling, all wrestling. You need to do this.
- 39:21You need to do this. You need to do this.
- 39:24It's fine. I understand.
- 39:26You get it now. And I did all that and it worked
- 39:29and I understand now. I should have done that.
- 39:32I know what? Leave it alone.
- 39:36It's OK. It's OK.
- 39:38Because of that, I changed it. I'm much better now.
- 39:43I'm so much better now and I, and I, and I feel like I am like
- 39:47I, I, the cadence changed, uh, the way I speak changed the way
- 39:57I handle it change growth happened, growth.
- 39:59I grew, I grew. This is like before you.
- 40:06This is around 3 months into it like.
- 40:10Three months, like, hey, I just started this podcast.
- 40:13Can you rate like, no, why would I ask that?
- 40:15Why would I do that? A because rah, I don't know why
- 40:20I did that. I just felt like I was doing so
- 40:23much better, blah blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 40:25No, it wasn't like that. I shouldn't have done that.
- 40:29My ego got all her and stuff and I was just like, I don't even
- 40:33want to listen to your podcast anymore, blah, blah, blah.
- 40:35No, I did. I ended up listening to her,
- 40:36them to them and becoming good friends with them and they're
- 40:41fucking awesome. I I love their show.
- 40:44I still listen to it. So yeah, they're, they're about
- 40:53to come out with their pitchforks.
- 40:56Please don't. It's fine.
- 40:57It's fine, it's fine. But that how come you never say
- 41:06anything before because it was a long time ago.
- 41:09It just totally forgot until this moment right here where I'm
- 41:12just telling you guys, hey, I did this also.
- 41:17There's so many things I did, like how many what, how many Co
- 41:22hosts have there been where like one of them was my best, one of
- 41:28my best friends from high school and the other one just like a
- 41:31person that I've just met and like she was part of a website.
- 41:40Memory unlocked. Yes, memory unlocked.
- 41:42She was part of a website. And I said, hey, you want to be
- 41:44on a podcast without ever consulting with my best friend?
- 41:51Yeah, no, there's so many mistakes.
- 41:54I did. There's so many non mistakes.
- 41:56I did. It's fine.
- 41:59I I felt like I was doing better when I wasn't.
- 42:04All right, we're almost done. Question #9 Did anyone listen
- 42:10who wasn't friends or family at first?
- 42:12Not really. And that messes with you.
- 42:17I hustled, I grinded, I did everything that guy told me to
- 42:24do. Hustle, loyalty and respect.
- 42:28Don't quit, don't give up. Don't tap out.
- 42:37Everything he told me to not to do, he ends up doing it.
- 42:40No, I'm kidding. No, no, no, no, no.
- 42:41That's fine. That's fine.
- 42:41We're not going to talk about that.
- 42:43Everything he told me not to do. And I didn't do it.
- 42:46I did it. Like I OK, so like I hustled, I
- 42:58grinded. I freaking consistency.
- 43:01I kept being consistent. I went on Twitter, connected
- 43:04with new creators, offer support.
- 43:07You, like you support me. I support back.
- 43:10I follow your podcast, you follow mine.
- 43:13We listen to each other's episodes.
- 43:17And we did that. We did they build a community.
- 43:21One group changed everything they did.
- 43:24They was a freaking amazing group.
- 43:27A creator ran a podcast called BYOP Bring Your Own Podcast and
- 43:33she brought new podcasters on, built a discord and helped
- 43:36everyone support each other. I remember the podcasters that
- 43:42were in the group, like I don't talk to them anymore because
- 43:47she's retired the the BYOP Bring your Own podcast.
- 43:52You learn as you live. Yes, you do.
- 43:54You bring your own podcast. She's retired now.
- 43:59So she has to retire everything. She's young too.
- 44:02Like her podcast was like from five years ago, five years old
- 44:07already. And this she retired like last
- 44:11early last year. So it's just like, damn, you
- 44:16know, thank you for doing this and for us as well.
- 44:20But the experience of it stuck with like, you know, we went to,
- 44:26I think it was good pods. It was like, it's like good
- 44:30book, but good pods where it's all podcasts and you listen and
- 44:35like you share stories and you share your podcast with other
- 44:39people and stuff. And it was just a group of us,
- 44:43we, every time they post it on, on the discord, we would go in
- 44:48and listen to it, like it, all that stuff.
- 44:53And we would say like, hey, we have a, a page on pub good pods.
- 44:59Can you support us there too? Like, you know what, we're going
- 45:01to have a week where we listen to this person's podcast only so
- 45:07we can support them there. It's like all right, good.
- 45:09And it helps out for Spotify as well because you're all there as
- 45:14well. So it's like it was my week and
- 45:19just been like what a year in. So it was just like 50 episodes
- 45:24so far, 566070 episodes around there so far.
- 45:28And like that these other people had like 102 hundred episodes.
- 45:35I'm the new guy, I'm the new person here and I'm just like,
- 45:39shit, what do I do? Like I keep doing it, keep doing
- 45:42it. Obviously the whole thing, I
- 45:46didn't learn my lesson with the whole rate my podcast because
- 45:49these people was like, all right, this is what you do.
- 45:53You're doing this, you're doing this, you're doing this.
- 45:55It's great. Also do this bring in new
- 45:59people, bring in you com for interviews.
- 46:02If you like I we can like we can bring you to our podcast and I
- 46:05can go into your podcast and we talked about it.
- 46:08There's one podcast AEW. It was a wrestling podcast and
- 46:13we can't we went into our each other's podcast and I got to
- 46:18interview him. He got to interview me on his
- 46:21and we did that and other one don't know the other one was
- 46:30something else. I forgot what it was.
- 46:33Umm, no, the other one was the first one that it was a network.
- 46:39That was a fun one. It was it was a network.
- 46:42It was a TNN, the Nirvana network.
- 46:46We had just this is around the Johnny Depp trial.
- 46:53I want to say this is way beyond like 2022 I think around there,
- 47:00but this is around there and around the summer.
- 47:04Chris Rock had just been slapped by Will Smith, all that stuff.
- 47:08So we were using that stuff. But Nirvana Network was supposed
- 47:12to be like these group of people where these group of podcasts
- 47:19and the same thing that I was trying to do where I was like
- 47:22trying to get a bunch of podcasts on the network and
- 47:26share each other's podcast. But the thing here is that they
- 47:29had a whole link tree and everything and they listed the
- 47:32podcasts that were part of the Nirvana Network.
- 47:36And then there's one big podcast, you know, like all
- 47:44these podcasters show up on this one big podcast.
- 47:48And I think I joined it in the summer when I was on hiatus just
- 47:55to be around there just to do a calm and for commentary and
- 48:00stuff. So that was fun to do.
- 48:08But the thing that pissed me off the most for this podcast,
- 48:12though, is when I joined, it was called my the podcast was called
- 48:18all scenes wrestling and I want to talk about this in the next
- 48:22episode, but at the same this is for the next episode, all scenes
- 48:27wrestling. And then by the second-half of
- 48:32the year in July when I was coming back to do the from the
- 48:35hiatus, I had renamed the podcast.
- 48:38And I told the main guy of TNN like, hey, I'm trying to like
- 48:43rebrand the podcast and make give them a name.
- 48:47And you guys like change the name of the podcast that's up
- 48:50there on the link tree and change it into what I have going
- 48:54on now. Like, yeah, sure.
- 48:55What's it called now from under the apron?
- 48:57It's like, alright, cool. Yeah, we'll let them know.
- 49:01No, didn't let them know. Didn't do any of that.
- 49:08Didn't like I was the one that kept saying like, check out the
- 49:13TN, the network for other podcasts on my podcast.
- 49:16Check out, you know, all these trailers that I got from my
- 49:18podcast from from these podcasts, I put them on my
- 49:21podcast. They didn't do any of that.
- 49:23They didn't know what to do. They didn't like, oh, that's too
- 49:26much work. I was like, all right, OK,
- 49:29whatever, bud. Why'd you ask me to be on your
- 49:31network if you're not going to do shit for me?
- 49:35So weird. Like I said this for another
- 49:38episode, fucking story time, story time.
- 49:44So even like they've since retired also like I just keep
- 49:52retiring people. I don't know why they've since
- 49:55retired. TNN Singh has been gone for a
- 49:58while. So I just been like oh shit, OK.
- 50:02And I'm like, I've tried looking for the link trace to see if
- 50:04it's still around to see if it's still active.
- 50:06No, it's not. Like did you guys get to change
- 50:08the podcast the third time? Changed it the third time.
- 50:12That'd be funny if it's still around and I can just be like,
- 50:14Hey, can you change it again? I I know I changed it.
- 50:17I asked you to change it like once already, but you know, I
- 50:20ever since rebranded, it's like I wanted to do that, but no,
- 50:23there's not longer around. But that was the bad story of
- 50:31the bad incident of that the good incident.
- 50:34The good thing that came out of this was to be bring your own
- 50:37podcast. The group of people in the
- 50:39discord where we like, you know, shared each other stuff like I
- 50:43still, I still follow one of the podcast, one of them because
- 50:51they're fucking awesome. Freaking hell, I forgot their
- 50:55name. They're drunk girls.
- 50:58There are three of them, 3 drunk girls, Luscious ladies.
- 51:01Luscious, luscious, luscious. Not luscious.
- 51:05It's something with yeah, fucking, I'm not going to look
- 51:12for it, but it's it's that where they get drunk and they just, it
- 51:21felt like drinking up again. And but there's three of them
- 51:24and this. Did you say drunk girls?
- 51:25I said drunk girls. I did.
- 51:31Oh, oh, you did. I did.
- 51:33I did man. Luscious, opinionated luscious.
- 51:45We follow each other still. They're still around.
- 51:48Are they? Yeah, they're still around.
- 51:50They're fucking awesome. They're they're just fucking
- 51:54awesome. I love them.
- 51:55They're amazing. Bet you love that.
- 52:00They're fucked. But it's, it's just like, it's
- 52:05too much. So like I had to like settle
- 52:10down for a bit. Two years ago they did a 24 hour
- 52:15live on Twitch and it was a 24 hour live plus the podcast.
- 52:22And yeah, it was awesome. It was awesome.
- 52:25It was a great time. All right, last question for the
- 52:30night question #10 what would change about the first episode
- 52:34and what I wouldn't touch the first episode.
- 52:39Episode zero. I tighten it.
- 52:41I'd over think less. I wouldn't use copyright music,
- 52:46but I wouldn't change the honesty or the rawness or the
- 52:50heater noise because I love the heater noise.
- 52:53Even though you could barely hear me because of the heater
- 52:55noise right there, it's still the best thing that I could have
- 53:00done because it changed. It was mirror.
- 53:03That's what carried everything forward.
- 53:06Umm, I needed that episode to learn, to evolve, to mess up, to
- 53:11fix things, to to learn. Yeah, basically.
- 53:17Some changes, some changes since then, we're good, some weren't.
- 53:25Everything in 2024. It doesn't matter though.
- 53:29You learn, you adjust, you keep going.
- 53:33You keep mowing, you keep moving forward.
- 53:35Yes, you know those changes that weren't good popcorn?
- 53:42Get your popcorn ready. Get your popcorn ready.
- 53:44No, it's fine. It's fine.
- 53:46Like I like I said, you learn, you adjust, you keep going.
- 53:51You, you keep doing what you're doing.
- 53:56Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming.
- 53:58Just keep swimming. Just keep recording.
- 54:01Just keep recording. Just keep recording.
- 54:07How do you like them apples? Where are we at 54 minutes?
- 54:18Love it, Jane. Just keep swimming.
- 54:25Just keep swimming, all right. Just feels like a good This
- 54:30feels like a good place to pause falling asleep with the sound of
- 54:35my own voice. Love that.
- 54:39Just wait until the next episode of this stuff.
- 54:43In the next episode, I want to keep it going.
- 54:45Talk about the quiet middle, the moments I almost quit.
- 54:52Almost like almost almost almost.
- 54:57How the show found its voice, and what success actually means.
- 55:01Now this right here, talking about it.
- 55:05If you're someone who's been thinking about starting or
- 55:07restarting something of your own, Part 2 is for you.
- 55:12We'll pick it up next time. This is where we're going to
- 55:15bring it. Start bringing this one for a
- 55:17landing. Tonight was about the beginning,
- 55:19the messy part, the questions nobody answers until you're
- 55:22already in it. We cover ten of the most common
- 55:26podcasting FAQ, the stuff people DM over, sync, bookmark, and
- 55:32quietly worry about how to start, what actually matters,
- 55:36what doesn't, and why hitting record feels heavier than it
- 55:40should. But that's only the first
- 55:43chapter, because next time we're getting into the middle of the
- 55:48story. The almost quit moments, the
- 55:51burnout, the doubt, the episodes that didn't land there.
- 55:58The nights where it felt like you were talking into the void,
- 56:06you were talking into the void. The nights where it felt like
- 56:11you were talking into just a empty space.
- 56:14And it was, it was anxious. You're anxious, you just
- 56:18couldn't deal with it. And some, like I said, some
- 56:21episodes didn't land, but some did.
- 56:23And I want to talk about the ones that both episodes, I want
- 56:27to talk about those that landed and those that didn't land.
- 56:31We'll talk about how I found Co host, how collaboration changed
- 56:38everything, the rebranding, the renaming, the moment M3P stop
- 56:44being just a podcast and started feeling like a real universe.
- 56:49It would have meant to become part of a network.
- 56:52I should save that for next. We'll we'll we'll talk about
- 56:56that too. We'll talk about that little
- 56:58network that was there. We're we'll talk about
- 57:04everything not as a finish line, but as a new starting point.
- 57:08So if you're someone who's been thinking about starting or
- 57:10restarting something of your own, Part 2 is for you.
- 57:15And before we go, I want to take a moment to shout out the people
- 57:18who are hanging out live tonight.
- 57:21Menace. Y'all know her, Jane, y'all know
- 57:24her, Leanna, You all know them. You know these people.
- 57:27They're always here. They're my universe, they're my
- 57:32M3P family. They're here for a reason.
- 57:35They're amazing, they're awesome.
- 57:37They keep the chat going, the they keep the chat alive.
- 57:42They have more questions. They do they, they, they're the
- 57:45energy of the show. Thank you for the questions.
- 57:50Thank you for the support, the energy.
- 57:52This space only works because you all show up.
- 57:58As always, a little housekeeping before we disappear into the
- 58:00night. Hello, M3P on Instagram,
- 58:03Twitter, Blue Sky, TikTok and YouTube for clips, live streams
- 58:06and behind the scenes chaos. Rate the show so the algorithm
- 58:09knows we're building something real here.
- 58:11And if you're listening on Spotify, drop a comment,
- 58:14especially if you're a creator trying to find your pudding.
- 58:17And just so you know what's coming up next, our rumble
- 58:20predictions with Menace. So yeah.
- 58:24So whether you're here for fandom, for creativity, or
- 58:26because you need a place that isn't work or home, this is my
- 58:30third place. A space where we show up, keep
- 58:33the light on, and figure it out together, OK?
- 58:38Take care of yourselves, take care of each other, and I'll see
- 58:42you next time.