Latest / Making Medicine / Biotech in 2025: Investment Trends, Congress, and Approvals
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- 0:00Speaker 1: At Making Medicine. We're reporting on the headlines, not making
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- 0:08Speaker 1: Nothing in this episode constitutes investment, financial, or legal advice,
- 0:12Speaker 1: and please consult your own advisors before making decisions. Hello,
- 0:23Speaker 1: and welcome back to the Making Medicine Podcast, where science,
- 0:27Speaker 1: policy and innovation meet. I'm your host John Stanford.
- 0:31Speaker 2: Today, as we close out the year, we're excited to
- 0:34Speaker 2: share a year in review look at the twenty twenty
- 0:36Speaker 2: five biotech investment trends, the latest FDA approvals, and what
- 0:40Speaker 2: Congress is doing as twenty twenty five comes to a close.
- 0:43Speaker 2: Let's dive in. Barring any last minute surprises. This will
- 0:47Speaker 2: be Congress's last week in Washington, so we'll start there
- 0:51Speaker 2: and talk about how they plan to close out the
- 0:53Speaker 2: year this week. First up, the House passed the FY
- 0:56Speaker 2: twenty twenty six NDAA, that defense bill we talked about
- 0:59Speaker 2: on last week's episode, by a wide bipartisan margin in
- 1:03Speaker 2: the Senate. It looks good to clear with bipartisan votes
- 1:07Speaker 2: there later this week. If you listened to last week's episode,
- 1:12Speaker 2: you heard our deeper dive on the defense bills biotech priorities,
- 1:16Speaker 2: but The bottom line, and I do encourage you to
- 1:18Speaker 2: take a listen, is that the NDA makes clear that
- 1:21Speaker 2: Congress is treating biotech as both an industrial capacity priority
- 1:25Speaker 2: and a national security issue. It's going to be something
- 1:28Speaker 2: we're talking about next year. Next. House leadership is teeing
- 1:32Speaker 2: up a vote this week on a Republican healthcare package
- 1:35Speaker 2: branded the Lower Healthcare Premiums for All Americans Act. We're
- 1:40Speaker 2: recording this on Wednesday morning, so by the time you
- 1:42Speaker 2: hear it, a vote may have already happened. So what
- 1:45Speaker 2: is in the House Republican package. It's a mix of
- 1:48Speaker 2: long running priorities, things like expanding access to certain employer
- 1:52Speaker 2: sponsored options and association health plans. And it also includes
- 1:56Speaker 2: provisions around PBM transparency, but without a solution to the
- 2:01Speaker 2: ACA cliff. Even if it does pass the House with
- 2:04Speaker 2: just a few days left in the congressional calendar, it
- 2:07Speaker 2: won't clear the Senate. The bottom line, the House is voting,
- 2:11Speaker 2: but the bigger story is what isn't happening. There's no
- 2:15Speaker 2: clear path right now to prevent premium spikes on January one.
- 2:19Speaker 2: That means healthcare policy is first up to be a
- 2:22Speaker 2: key issue in twenty twenty six and will likely be
- 2:25Speaker 2: on tops of voters' minds come midterm elections as millions
- 2:29Speaker 2: of Americans deal with higher premiums. That's less than a
- 2:32Speaker 2: year away. Now, let's talk PBMs. PBM reform has been
- 2:38Speaker 2: the next up in Congress for what feels like forever,
- 2:41Speaker 2: strong bipartisan rhetoric, lots of hearings, lots of draft text
- 2:45Speaker 2: reviewed by the incubate team, but repeated failures to get
- 2:49Speaker 2: these major reforms across the finish line. In fact, multiple
- 2:53Speaker 2: efforts to move PBM reforms through must pass vehicles have
- 2:57Speaker 2: repeatedly bogged down or been stripped back, maybe most notably
- 3:00Speaker 2: with last year's end of year continuing resolution against that backdrop.
- 3:05Speaker 2: Two pieces of legislation have gotten some renewed attention. First,
- 3:09Speaker 2: the Help Copays Act. The Help Ensure Lower Patient Copays
- 3:13Speaker 2: Act targets a very specific set of practices where patient
- 3:17Speaker 2: assistance doesn't always count towards a patient's deductible or out
- 3:21Speaker 2: of pocket maximum. It was introduced in the House by
- 3:24Speaker 2: a bipartisan group of representatives and in the Senate earlier
- 3:27Speaker 2: this year. Supporters frame this as a straightforward patient protection move.
- 3:32Speaker 2: If a patient has copay assistance. It should reduce what
- 3:35Speaker 2: they pay at the pharmacy counter, not get captured by PBMs. Second,
- 3:40Speaker 2: the PBM Price Transparency and Accountability Act, introduced earlier this
- 3:44Speaker 2: month by Senators, widening CREPO. It focuses heavily on Medicaid
- 3:49Speaker 2: and medicare mechanics, preventing abuses across spread pricing and Medicaid,
- 3:54Speaker 2: improving payment accuracy, and increasing PBM accountability. All of this
- 3:58Speaker 2: is a lot of words covering PBMs, which we have
- 4:01Speaker 2: talked about tirelessly. In fact, I was pretty stunned in
- 4:05Speaker 2: the midst of presidential debates that the acronym PBM made
- 4:08Speaker 2: the news. So it's clear that efforts to call attention
- 4:12Speaker 2: to the price gouging middlemen that seem to constantly avoid
- 4:16Speaker 2: legislative reform. It's clear that it's broken through, but nothing
- 4:21Speaker 2: has gotten done. So what should you listeners take away?
- 4:24Speaker 2: Congress keep circling PBM reform because there's broad agreement that
- 4:29Speaker 2: the system is too opaque and incentives are misaligned. But
- 4:32Speaker 2: getting a package and acted remains hard, especially when reforms
- 4:36Speaker 2: get tied up in bigger healthcare and budget fights. In
- 4:39Speaker 2: the near term, PBM provisions are increasingly being folded into
- 4:43Speaker 2: legislative vehicles, including the House healthcare debate we just talked about,
- 4:47Speaker 2: and before we get into our version of twenty twenty
- 4:50Speaker 2: five wrapped as far as investment goes, one last quick
- 4:53Speaker 2: policy update relevant to incubate and a bill that we've
- 4:56Speaker 2: been pushing. The House passed and we celebrated, the invest Act,
- 5:01Speaker 2: or the Incentivizing New Ventures and Economic Strength through Capital
- 5:05Speaker 2: Formation Act of twenty twenty five. It add a strong
- 5:08Speaker 2: bipartisan vote three hundred and two to one hundred and
- 5:11Speaker 2: twenty three. The bill heads over to the Senate, where
- 5:13Speaker 2: its future remains unclear, but will be pushing to have
- 5:17Speaker 2: it taken quickly because it has a meaningful impact on
- 5:20Speaker 2: early stage biotechs trying to access both private and public capital.
- 5:25Speaker 2: What does the bill do? First, There'll be less friction
- 5:28Speaker 2: in early fundraising because the Act includes practical updates that
- 5:32Speaker 2: make it easier for founders to raise money without tripping wires,
- 5:36Speaker 2: like clarifying the pitches at certain sponsored events aren't automatically
- 5:40Speaker 2: treated as a general solicitation, and raising the crowdfunding threshold
- 5:44Speaker 2: that triggers costly accountant reviews. Second, it gives a clear
- 5:48Speaker 2: runway to IPOs in staying public on public markets. The
- 5:52Speaker 2: bill aims to make going public less burdensome for growth companies,
- 5:56Speaker 2: reducing financial history required in the initial egc FI from
- 6:00Speaker 2: three years to two, expanding access to confidential draft submissions,
- 6:05Speaker 2: and making quote testing the waters available to all issuers.
- 6:09Speaker 2: The bottom line for innovative pre revenue biotechs, the package
- 6:13Speaker 2: is designed to widen the funnel of early capital and
- 6:16Speaker 2: lower the costs and friction of eventually accessing public markets.
- 6:20Speaker 2: It's exactly the kinds of changes that can matter when
- 6:23Speaker 2: capital is tight and timelines are long. Incubate was proud
- 6:26Speaker 2: to support House passage and looks forward to engaging with
- 6:29Speaker 2: Senators to get it over the finish line. It's not
- 6:33Speaker 2: sexy stuff, to be sure, and it doesn't make a
- 6:35Speaker 2: lot of headlines, but lessening the barriers for getting companies
- 6:39Speaker 2: to access public markets could help with the slowdown that
- 6:42Speaker 2: we've had over the last half decade. Before we close,
- 6:46Speaker 2: I want to share a quick sneak peek at some
- 6:48Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty five biotech investment data we'll be
- 6:51Speaker 2: releasing in much more detail in January through our Incubate
- 6:55Speaker 2: Policy lab. Here are some big numbers that show that
- 6:58Speaker 2: biotech had a good year to bite uncertainty and policy headwinds,
- 7:02Speaker 2: at times slowing us down. From January through November, we
- 7:06Speaker 2: tracked seven hundred and fifty two investments into early stage biotechs,
- 7:10Speaker 2: totally about sixteen point five billion in venture capital. With
- 7:14Speaker 2: regards to specific therapeutic areas, a few themes jumped out.
- 7:18Speaker 2: Oncology remains on top with more than two hundred deals
- 7:21Speaker 2: representing roughly four point two billion dollars. Neurology and immunology
- 7:25Speaker 2: each drew a little under two billion dollars, and lastly,
- 7:29Speaker 2: rare diseases with orphan drugs saw more than fifty investments
- 7:33Speaker 2: totaling around one point seven billion dollars. We've seen an
- 7:37Speaker 2: uptick in rare disease investments following the passage of the
- 7:40Speaker 2: Big Beautiful Bill in July. It's a real world example
- 7:45Speaker 2: of how policy can shape incentives. Congress fixed one of
- 7:49Speaker 2: the major flaws of the IRA, and we're already seeing
- 7:52Speaker 2: dollars come back into the system. Geographically, there were no
- 7:56Speaker 2: surprises on the top states, but the numbers are striking.
- 7:59Speaker 2: California had two hundred and twenty one deals, about six
- 8:02Speaker 2: point one billion dollars in Massachusetts had just shy of
- 8:06Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty deals representing roughly four point six
- 8:10Speaker 2: billion dollars, but there was a strong showing from other
- 8:12Speaker 2: states that round out our top five. New York had
- 8:16Speaker 2: forty four deals with four hundred and forty five million dollars,
- 8:19Speaker 2: Pennsylvania with thirty five deals representing four hundred and forty
- 8:23Speaker 2: million dollars, and Texas with thirty four deals, had pulled
- 8:26Speaker 2: in a whopping one point one billion dollars. Congratulations to
- 8:30Speaker 2: Texas for breaking the billion dollar threshold for investment in
- 8:34Speaker 2: early stage biotech. Being the political wonky nerds we are,
- 8:38Speaker 2: we also had to break this down by congressional House districts,
- 8:41Speaker 2: and it's obvious that some members sit on enormous concentrations
- 8:44Speaker 2: of innovation. We would expect these members to also therefore
- 8:48Speaker 2: be champions for life science policy. Representative Ayana Presley's district
- 8:53Speaker 2: leads by deal count with sixty eight investments totally more
- 8:57Speaker 2: than two billion dollars. Kevin Mullen in California, just outside
- 9:01Speaker 2: of San Francisco, had sixty one deals nearly three billion investment.
- 9:05Speaker 2: Catherine Clark in Massachusetts, who's also in the leadership of
- 9:09Speaker 2: the Democratic Party had thirty one deals with just over
- 9:12Speaker 2: a billion dollars invested. Nancy Pelosi, the former Speaker of
- 9:16Speaker 2: the House who has announced her retirement, had thirty five
- 9:19Speaker 2: deals just over six hundred million, and Scott Peters down
- 9:23Speaker 2: in San Diego had twenty four investments with also just
- 9:26Speaker 2: over six hundred million dollars. One last data point that
- 9:29Speaker 2: we're going to look forward to digging deeper in. In
- 9:31Speaker 2: the official Incubate Policy Lab report on this AI enabled
- 9:35Speaker 2: biotech is real not hype, we caught an interesting trend
- 9:40Speaker 2: in investments as the year progressed. One hundred and forty
- 9:43Speaker 2: four investments to be exact into companies that are utilizing
- 9:47Speaker 2: AI in drug discovery and development, totaling about three billion
- 9:51Speaker 2: dollars so far this year. We'll have a full breakdown
- 9:54Speaker 2: early next year, and this will certainly be something we're
- 9:57Speaker 2: talking about at our event at JP Morgan's conference in January. Lastly,
- 10:01Speaker 2: for this episode, we always like to end on a
- 10:03Speaker 2: positive note, and it's time for our FDA Approvals corner.
- 10:07Speaker 2: For all the noise in policy and politics and debates
- 10:10Speaker 2: over healthcare, the point of all of this work is
- 10:13Speaker 2: simple new treatments reaching patients who need them. So we'll
- 10:17Speaker 2: take a quick spin through what was announced in November,
- 10:20Speaker 2: and we love celebrating the winds that represent years, if
- 10:23Speaker 2: not decades, of scientific effort, clinical trial participation, and perseverance
- 10:28Speaker 2: across the ecosystem, not to mention, of course, the risk
- 10:31Speaker 2: capital that makes it all possible. Voice Act, developed by Otsuka,
- 10:35Speaker 2: was approved November twenty fifth for kidney disease. Higher Nuo,
- 10:39Speaker 2: developed by Bayer, was approved November nineteenth to treat certain
- 10:43Speaker 2: non small cell lung cancers. Fordemp Loo, developed by Arrowhead Pharmaceuticals,
- 10:48Speaker 2: was approved a day before November eighteenth to reduce triglycerides
- 10:52Speaker 2: and adults with a disorder where the body can't break
- 10:54Speaker 2: down dietary fats. Comesifty developed by Cora Oncology, was a
- 10:59Speaker 2: pre of November thirteenth to treat adults with relapsed or
- 11:03Speaker 2: refractory acute myloid leukemia. And finally, Kaijevi, developed by UCB,
- 11:08Speaker 2: was approved November third to treat thimidine kinnase two deficiency
- 11:12Speaker 2: and patients who start to show symptoms when they are
- 11:14Speaker 2: twelve years or younger. I'm particularly encouraged by the last one.
- 11:18Speaker 2: Because pediatric trials and pediatric drug development can be so complicated,
- 11:23Speaker 2: we should always celebrate just a little bit more for
- 11:25Speaker 2: drugs that help the youngest patients. That's our approvals corner
- 11:29Speaker 2: for the month. Five reminders that innovation is moving and
- 11:32Speaker 2: the progress is real even when the headlines are messy.
- 11:36Speaker 2: We'll keep tracking the policy, but we'll always make time
- 11:38Speaker 2: to celebrate what matters most, new options, new hope, and
- 11:42Speaker 2: better outcomes for patients and families. That wraps up this
- 11:47Speaker 2: year in review episode of the Making Medicine podcast. If
- 11:50Speaker 2: you have thoughts on the twenty twenty five investment data
- 11:53Speaker 2: or the FDA approvals we covered today, drop us a
- 11:55Speaker 2: comment and we may feature it in an upcoming episode.
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- 12:05Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, Happy holidays, and as always, keep innovating.