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Attack of Bob Schneider! · Movie Meltdown

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Speaker 1: Guess who? It's 10 o'clock.
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Speaker 2: Do you care where your parents are?
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Speaker 3: The following feature has been rated R by the Motion
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Speaker 3: Picture Association of America. It is intended for mature audiences
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Speaker 3: and parental discretion is advised.
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Speaker 4: The Coast Guard and the Navy have been.
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Speaker 5: Alerted and are standing by on the eastern seaboard.
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Speaker 2: And it continues to burn out of control.
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Speaker 6: It has been regular.
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Speaker 7: Every five to ten minutes there has been another convoy
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Speaker 7: of units, fire companies, paramedics.
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Speaker 6: A citywide emergency has been declared. Police officers are still
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Speaker 6: on tactical full alert. 2,000 National Guardsmen are standing by.
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Speaker 6: Air defense warning read.
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Speaker 3: We're doomed!
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Speaker 6: It's time for Movie Meltdown's Attack of the Killers soundtrack.
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Speaker 8: The live transmission has begun, and we're into the final
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Speaker 8: hour of hell.
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Speaker 2: What's up, and welcome to Movie Meltdown's Attack of the
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Speaker 2: Killers soundtrack. I'm Brian, and this week we have a
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Speaker 2: very special guest. I first saw Bob Schneider play live
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Speaker 2: many years ago, and I was immediately a fan. He
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Speaker 2: takes the essence of that singer-songwriter vibe, but he's found
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Speaker 2: a way to add a real spark to it. Plus,
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Speaker 2: he can put together these big, fun, crowd-pleasing numbers, and
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Speaker 2: he can also and then turn around and write a
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Speaker 2: simple song with heartfelt lyrics and genuine honesty. It's an
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Speaker 2: odd combination that you're only going to find in somebody
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Speaker 2: like Bob. Now hopefully you're already familiar with Bob, but
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Speaker 2: if not, I'm going to give you a good sample
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Speaker 2: of his work through the years, and as usual, it
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Speaker 2: will come to you as it has appeared on movie soundtracks.
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Speaker 2: So to kick things off, we're going to go with
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Speaker 2: one of his bigger radio hits, which also just happened
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Speaker 2: to be featured on the 40 Days and 40 Nights soundtrack.
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Speaker 2: This is Big Blue Sea from Bob Schneider.
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Speaker 1: My heart's not ready spacious taste like this let's burn
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Speaker 1: me turn.
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Speaker 7: Me inside out and learn me not to tell you
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Speaker 7: anything i think i.
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Speaker 1: Know that I know.
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Speaker 7: Tried to tell you all about it, thought you might
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Speaker 7: have heard I doubt it.
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Speaker 1: Every day's a waste, I know, and every day's a fuel.
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Speaker 1: Cut down, I'm feeling lost, lost my mind, I'm Mr.
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Speaker 2: Frost.
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Speaker 1: Collected all the evidence, I'm off the edge, I'm on
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Speaker 1: the fence.
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Speaker 7: It's days like this that burn me, turn me inside
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Speaker 7: out and learn me not to tell you anything. I
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Speaker 7: think I know, but I think I'll tell you all
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Speaker 7: that I know. I want to be alone, I want
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Speaker 7: to be a stone. I want to sink to the
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Speaker 7: bottom of the ocean, lie there with you.
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Speaker 1: Till I'm gone. At the bottom of.
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Speaker 9: The big blue sea, just you and me. At the
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Speaker 9: bottom of the big blue sea. At the bottom of
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Speaker 9: the big blue sea, just you and me.
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Speaker 1: The bottom of the big blue sea. No, I never
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Speaker 1: know nobody better than I know myself. But I can't
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Speaker 1: even figure out just what the fuck I'm all about.
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Speaker 7: I'm sick and I'm swimming. Wait a minute, I'm drowning.
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Speaker 7: I ain't kidding around. Sometimes I think I'm gonna make it.
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Speaker 7: Sometimes I'm faking it. It's just like this that burned me.
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Speaker 7: Turned me inside out and learned me.
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Speaker 1: Not to tell you anything.
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Speaker 7: I think I know, but I think I tell you
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Speaker 7: all that I know. Anywhere and everywhere I made up
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Speaker 7: my mind, it's getting weird, it's a queer thing.
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Speaker 2: It might not get.
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Speaker 1: Much better than the day I fear.
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Speaker 7: Won't note your happiness, I tried so hard, I did
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Speaker 7: my best, but best wasn't good enough. Oh God, I
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Speaker 7: hate this stuff, and it's days like this that burn me.
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Speaker 1: Turn me inside out and learn me not to tell
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Speaker 1: you anything.
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Speaker 7: I think I know, but I think I'll tell you
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Speaker 7: all that I know.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to be alone. I want to be
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Speaker 1: a stone. I want to sink to the bottom of
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Speaker 1: the ocean.
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Speaker 7: I'll lie there, lie there with you, lie there with
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Speaker 7: you till I'm gone.
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Speaker 1: At the bottom of the big blue sea, just you
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Speaker 1: and me.
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Speaker 9: At the bottom of the big blue sea. At the
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Speaker 9: bottom of Lucy, just you.
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Speaker 1: And me The bottom.
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Speaker 3: Of the big blue sea It's just like Mr. Bird
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Speaker 3: Pretend the kids died out of the bird.
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Speaker 10: It's just like this, the burn will turn the inside
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Speaker 10: out and learn. It's just like this, the burn will
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Speaker 10: turn the inside out and learn. I'm not going to
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Speaker 10: tell you anything, I think I know.
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Speaker 1: Wow, the big blue.
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Speaker 3: What's it like?
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Speaker 11: Big and blue.
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Speaker 1: I knew it. There is a universe that can't be seen.
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Speaker 1: feeling if you know what I mean.
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Speaker 12: Delectable dimension undetectable by sight fill up your heart in
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Speaker 12: the dead of the night.
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Speaker 13: Some say that it's an astral plane can't be described
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Speaker 13: can't be explained world exploding in love all around me.
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Speaker 1: The world exploded in love all around.
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Speaker 3: Me Every time I take a look.
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Speaker 1: Around me I have a smile Is our life just
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Speaker 1: an illusion?
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Speaker 3: Need to figure it.
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Speaker 14: Out Separation exists not in your love-filled heart But only
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Speaker 14: in your mind Real stories all around Even now it's
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Speaker 14: around Even now.
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Speaker 15: I feel the power.
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Speaker 1: The world exploding in love all around me The world
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Speaker 1: exploded in love all around me.
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Speaker 3: Every time I take a look around me.
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Speaker 1: And I smile. And I smile. The world exploded in love.
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Speaker 3: All around me Every time I take.
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Speaker 1: A look around me.
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Speaker 2: I have a smile And that was The World Exploded
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Speaker 2: Into Love from The Divine Secrets of the Yaya Sisterhood.
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Speaker 2: So next up, we're going to get to one of
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Speaker 2: my favorites of Bob's songs. And this is one I
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Speaker 2: actually heard him do live that very first time I
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Speaker 2: saw him. And I was sort of mesmerized by it
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Speaker 2: right then and there. It was an outdoor show, and
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Speaker 2: all these people were sitting on the ground. And at
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Speaker 2: some point, it lightly started to rain, and then I
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Speaker 2: heard this song. And I know, and you by now
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Speaker 2: probably know, I'm kind of a sap. And I mean,
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Speaker 2: under the right circumstances, I can be totally sappy. So
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Speaker 2: when Bob started playing this song, it was just sweet
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Speaker 2: and simple and full of heart. But at the same time,
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Speaker 2: immediately it has this sense of fun. and it doesn't
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Speaker 2: take itself too seriously, just the emotion that comes with
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Speaker 2: being hopelessly in love. This is Love Is Everywhere, which
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Speaker 2: also happens to be featured in the movie All About Steve,
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Speaker 2: but I first heard it sitting in the rain so
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Speaker 2: many years ago.
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Speaker 16: Simley was a pilot in the nationally known Amazing ladies
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Speaker 16: of the outer ozone. She didn't have no kids. She
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Speaker 16: didn't have no time. She was a woman of her word.
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Speaker 16: She was a fighter of crime. She looked good in
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Speaker 16: a hat. She had a natural way. Her tools and
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Speaker 16: old cars. She went to UCLA. And everybody said she
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Speaker 16: was as crazy as a loon.
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Speaker 1: When she was a girl, she'd spend every.
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Speaker 16: Afternoon Sitting in her backyard pretending to be a fighter
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Speaker 16: ace in the Japanese military.
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Speaker 6: She liked to make up.
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Speaker 1: Her mind, she kept her feet in the air.
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Speaker 16: She wore a heart on her sleeve, cause she'd found
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Speaker 16: it there. And it was all well and good until
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Speaker 16: she met this young man.
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Speaker 1: A young pilot named Steve with a beautiful tin.
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Speaker 16: He spoke English and French and he swam like a swan.
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Speaker 16: He had a mouth full of teeth and more style
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Speaker 16: than Cezanne. He could talk to the bees, he could
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Speaker 16: breathe in the air. He wore his heart on his
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Speaker 16: sleeve because he'd found it there.
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Speaker 1: And they'd sit in the trees and they'd talk through
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Speaker 1: the night. While the blind moon swam in the.
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Speaker 2: Pale starry light.
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Speaker 16: And they talked and they crowed and they told what
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Speaker 16: they knew. It was better than beer, it was all
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Speaker 16: strange and new. There's grass all around and it's black
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Speaker 16: up above. There's more than your love. It was something
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Speaker 16: like love.
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Speaker 1: And I don't know.
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Speaker 3: Why life, it seems to be.
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Speaker 1: So hard for dreamers like you and me. Is love,
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Speaker 1: is love, is everywhere. What are you trying to tell me?
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Speaker 6: That I can dodge bullets? No, Neo. I'm trying to
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Speaker 6: tell you that when you're ready, you won't have to.
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Speaker 1: I got the freak. I got the flow. I got
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Speaker 1: to throw my ass over both, baby, don't you know.
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Speaker 1: Tip that I'm on. Man, it's the bomb.
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Speaker 12: Did I ever tell you you look like my mom
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Speaker 12: and you smile like you tell you put me apart as.
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Speaker 1: Well and put me back together here to break my
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Speaker 1: heart and sell it for ice cream and a fudge.
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Speaker 1: Give me the nuts.
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Speaker 6: It's a live adult, honey.
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Speaker 1: You be the judge. You got bullets. I got time.
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Speaker 1: You bring the bullets. I bring the wine. You bring
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Speaker 1: the bullets. I bring my man.
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Speaker 7: Cause I can tell you where it is, but I
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Speaker 7: can tell you where it's at.
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Speaker 1: Money, honey, it's your only friend, you know. Your friends
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Speaker 1: may take a lot of money. Be there in the end,
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Speaker 1: you're in the spin. Oh, it ain't no sin. Drink
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Speaker 1: some gin and have yourself some fun every now and again.
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Speaker 12: Oh, man, I'm bleeding slow. I'm going to bed broke.
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Speaker 12: Mad out, it's crazy having a party in my heaven, bro.
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Speaker 1: Don't mind me, baby.
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Speaker 6: I'm getting kind of sleepy.
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Speaker 1: Now, baby, that look you've been giving me is getting creepy.
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Speaker 1: You got the bullets.
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Speaker 2: I got the time.
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Speaker 1: You bring the bullets, I'll bring the wine.
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Speaker 7: You bring your bullets, I'll bring my hat.
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Speaker 2: And we can.
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Speaker 12: Get the hell out before they find out where we at.
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Speaker 12: You got the bullets, I got time. You bring your bullets,
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Speaker 12: I'll bring the wine.
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Speaker 1: You bring the bullets, I'll bring my bat. Cause I
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Speaker 1: can tell you where it is.
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Speaker 3: Ha ha ha ha ha.
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Speaker 1: I got this big pig beat, wears a big wig seat.
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Speaker 1: It tells me every single morning, boy, you're going to
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Speaker 1: be big. It's kind of a cutie. It plays the
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Speaker 1: flute G. And that flute playing wig wearing pigs.
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Speaker 12: I figure out who the ain't no blowfish. Damn, I'm
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Speaker 12: light as air so. I got this million dollar smile.
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Speaker 12: I take it everywhere I go. Now I keep it
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Speaker 12: hidden deep inside.
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Speaker 1: My big old head.
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Speaker 6: I only take it out at night when I'm.
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Speaker 1: All alone in bed. You got bullets. I got time.
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Speaker 1: You bring your bullets. I bring the wine. You bring
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Speaker 1: your bullets.
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Speaker 6: And I bring my bat.
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Speaker 12: I can tell you where it is, but I can tell.
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Speaker 1: You got the bullets. I got the time. You bring
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Speaker 1: your bullets. I bring the wine. You bring your bullets.
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Speaker 6: And I bring my bat.
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Speaker 1: And we can get the hell out before they find
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Speaker 1: out where we're at. You got bullets.
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Speaker 2: And that time we went with a very different direction
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Speaker 2: than the previous love songs. That was the high caliber
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Speaker 2: song Bullets from Miss Congeniality. Now, the geekier of you
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Speaker 2: out there who instinctively start to catalog and categorize when
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Speaker 2: people start talking about movies, yes, those of you might
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Speaker 2: hear this lineup of soundtracks and say, hey, all of
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Speaker 2: these have something in common. In fact, one very specific
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Speaker 2: thing in common. Miss Congeniality, Divine Secrets of the Yaya Sisterhood,
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Speaker 2: and the golden raspberry award-winning All About Steve? Now, all
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Speaker 2: of those star the lovely and talented Sandra Bullock. Now
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Speaker 2: don't worry, I, being one of those previously mentioned geeks, yes,
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Speaker 2: that definitely occurred to me as well, and being the
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Speaker 2: previously mentioned sap, I also many years ago, and it
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Speaker 2: may still be going on right now, had a big
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Speaker 2: sappy crush on Miss Bullock.
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Speaker 11: You think I'm gorgeous?
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Speaker 2: You want to kiss me.
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Speaker 3: You want to hug me.
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Speaker 1: Look, I think McDonald is more feminine. I'd rather kiss him.
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Speaker 1: You want to love me. You want to hug me.
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Speaker 1: You want to smooch me. You want to.
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Speaker 2: So yes, obviously that stuck out to me as I
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Speaker 2: was going over Bob's soundtrack appearances. But don't worry, I
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Speaker 2: won't just leave you hanging on how all those songs
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Speaker 2: came together. I'm going to ask Bob himself. I... In fact,
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Speaker 2: half-jokingly threw out a potential reason why all those songs
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Speaker 2: ended up on those specific soundtracks. Turns out there is
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Speaker 2: a very good reason. But just hang in there. I'll
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Speaker 2: let him explain that himself in just a little while.
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Speaker 2: But for now, we're going to hit one more song
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Speaker 2: before we sit down with the man himself. Now, this
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Speaker 2: is an older song, and it's from an independent movie
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Speaker 2: that you may not have seen. But this song is
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Speaker 2: interesting for two reasons. Number one, the movie it is
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Speaker 2: featured in is called Harmony and Me. And what sets
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Speaker 2: it apart from the others is that Bob is actually
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Speaker 2: in this movie. And if you watch it, you will
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Speaker 2: get to see him perform this very song as he
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Speaker 2: plays a wedding singer in the movie. In fact, possibly
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Speaker 2: a little overly engaging wedding singer, especially with the bride.
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Speaker 2: But regardless, that's the on-screen version of this song. What
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Speaker 2: we're going to hear is the album version, and that
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Speaker 2: leads us to the second interesting thing. That version of
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Speaker 2: the song features vocals by the amazing Patti Griffin. If
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Speaker 2: you aren't already familiar with Patti... She's a phenomenal singer-songwriter
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Speaker 2: and another terrific performer to see live. So go seek
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Speaker 2: her out. See her in person. She is a terrific performer.
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Speaker 1: But for now, you'll just get a little sense.
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Speaker 2: Of her here this is bob and patty singing changing
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Speaker 2: your mind.
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Speaker 8: What's so funny is nobody's laughing at this change of
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Speaker 8: heart you're having What's so funny is I'm filled up
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Speaker 8: with thunder. I can't seem to get out from under.
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Speaker 1: All these stones.
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Speaker 16: Too tired to my chest.
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Speaker 17: And I can't change your mind. And I can't change
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Speaker 17: your mind.
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Speaker 1: What's so funny is I'm scared.
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Speaker 8: And lonely And I don't think.
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Speaker 17: That I'm the only one As I watch it drive away.
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Speaker 8: And what's so funny is the birds are singing The
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Speaker 8: sun is shining and the bells are ringing And I
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Speaker 8: don't think what happened here.
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Speaker 17: And I can't change your mind I can't change your
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Speaker 17: mind I can't change your mind.
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Speaker 5: I can't change your mind There's.
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Speaker 17: A chapel in Minneapolis All the bones of a dead
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Speaker 17: saint in an endless stained glass closures in there.
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Speaker 8: It reminds me of the feeling where I first looked
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Speaker 8: into your eyes.
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Speaker 17: I saw the most beautiful birds fly.
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Speaker 18: Straight into the sun with their wings.
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Speaker 1: On fire and the deed was done.
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Speaker 17: Oh, and I can't change your mind I can't change
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Speaker 17: your mind I can't change your mind I can't change your.
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Speaker 8: What's so funny is this piece of.
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Speaker 10: Skin The one on my arm with your name in
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Speaker 10: it What.
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Speaker 8: Was I thinking? What's so funny is the way things
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Speaker 8: go down Like when a star dies it doesn't make
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Speaker 8: a sound It's just gone And you can't find it
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Speaker 8: When you look into the sky.
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Speaker 17: .
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Speaker 16: There's a well filed on my.
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Speaker 8: Front lawn He's looking pissed off He's wet from all.
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Speaker 1: The rain.
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Speaker 9: I think I'll go say hi And offer him.
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Speaker 6: A beer.
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Speaker 6: Hi, this is Lisa Loeb, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown.
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Speaker 19: I present to you without further ado, and no idea
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Speaker 19: what ado means, but we will have no further of it.
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Speaker 6: Ladies and gentlemen, Bob Schneider.
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Speaker 2: So I try to start off early and sort of
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Speaker 2: get a sense of how everybody got to where they are.
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Speaker 2: And I hear a lot of childhood stories. What I
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Speaker 2: know of yours is a little different. So I guess
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Speaker 2: start with where you were born and then that turn
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Speaker 2: it took after that.
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Speaker 6: Well, I'm from Michigan. I was born in Ypsilanti, which
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Speaker 6: is near Detroit, Michigan. And my dad's a musician in Detroit.
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Speaker 6: He was going to school at Eastern Michigan University where
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Speaker 6: he met my mom. And anyways, they got married. He
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Speaker 6: got involved in opera when he was in college. So
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Speaker 6: we ended up moving to Germany when I was two
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Speaker 6: so he could study voice over there. And we lived
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Speaker 6: over there for about four years and then moved to
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Speaker 6: El Paso so he could study voice with some guy
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Speaker 6: in El Paso. And then we moved back to Germany.
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Speaker 6: so he could sing. And we just kind of followed
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Speaker 6: my dad around basically, uh, while he was pursuing his
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Speaker 6: dream of becoming an opera singer. And, uh, but he
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Speaker 6: is quite a good musician. He taught me how to
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Speaker 6: play guitar when I was about four and he used
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Speaker 6: to moonlight, uh, as a guitar player and do like
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Speaker 6: covers songs at parties and, Worked at a country club
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Speaker 6: for a while. I'd back them up on drums for
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Speaker 6: a couple years. I started doing that when I was
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Speaker 6: about 10. But I've been on stage my whole life.
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Speaker 6: I think the first time I was on stage was
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Speaker 6: probably four or so.
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Speaker 2: Those are some formative years. I guess how much do
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Speaker 2: you think that version of traveling around sort of changed
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Speaker 2: to you as a kid, how it changed who you
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Speaker 2: turned into?
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Speaker 6: Well, the cool thing about playing music when you're four
28:19
Speaker 6: and five years old, you don't have to be very
28:22
Speaker 6: good for people to really appreciate kind of what you do. So,
28:26
Speaker 6: you know, they kind of, no matter what you do,
28:28
Speaker 6: they kind of, you know, appreciate it. So I have
28:32
Speaker 6: this idea, I think because I did that when I
28:36
Speaker 6: was a kid, that I'm really good at what I do,
28:39
Speaker 6: even though, uh, even though I've probably never really been
28:46
Speaker 6: that good at what I do, but the internal sense
28:49
Speaker 6: is that I'm great at what I do because I
28:53
Speaker 6: got all that, you know, applause and recognition when I
28:56
Speaker 6: was a little kid.
28:57
Speaker 2: Showered with attention at four, you know.
29:00
Speaker 16: Yeah.
29:00
Speaker 2: It seeps in there pretty deep on that.
29:03
Speaker 6: Yeah, it does.
29:04
Speaker 2: Well, then I guess I usually try to look at,
29:08
Speaker 2: For me, I always try to go with all art
29:10
Speaker 2: forms and how they all kind of blur from one
29:12
Speaker 2: end to the other. Did you, I mean, at that
29:14
Speaker 2: point you were already sort of immersed in music. Was
29:17
Speaker 2: that just kind of normal and you weren't focused on
29:20
Speaker 2: it and started being drawn towards other arts? Because I
29:24
Speaker 2: know I've seen your physical art and it's definitely, is
29:28
Speaker 2: that something that came early on or was it something
29:30
Speaker 2: you found later?
29:33
Speaker 6: Well, music was always something that I did. but it
29:37
Speaker 6: was something my dad did mainly. And I just did
29:41
Speaker 6: art my whole life from the time I was a
29:45
Speaker 6: small kid. I just drew all the time. I got
29:47
Speaker 6: really good at it. So I just always assumed I'd
29:51
Speaker 6: be an artist. And it was only when I got
29:54
Speaker 6: into high school and college that it even.
29:59
Speaker 6: Crossed my mind that i might pursue music mainly because
30:02
Speaker 6: i did a couple talent shows and uh and it
30:06
Speaker 6: was really exciting and uh got some recognition from the
30:10
Speaker 6: ladies and and uh just kind of got sucked into
30:17
Speaker 6: it because of how much more exciting it was than
30:21
Speaker 6: you know sitting around drawing yeah you know which is
30:24
Speaker 6: pretty I don't know. It's pretty boring.
30:28
Speaker 11: Solitary.
30:29
Speaker 6: If nothing else.
30:30
Speaker 17: Yeah.
30:31
Speaker 2: Well then, and again, crossing into other mediums, were you
30:34
Speaker 2: also a big movie fan early on or was that,
30:37
Speaker 2: was that something that just wasn't really as, as focused as,
30:41
Speaker 2: as like music?
30:42
Speaker 6: Well, I do remember when I was in high school
30:45
Speaker 6: and I was getting ready to go to college. I, I,
30:50
Speaker 6: I looked around at colleges and I picked out one school, uh,
30:56
Speaker 6: to apply to, which was CalArts, mainly because they had
30:59
Speaker 6: a great art program, they had a great music program,
31:03
Speaker 6: and they had a great film program. And I was
31:05
Speaker 6: really interested in doing all three of those things. And
31:10
Speaker 6: I didn't realize it was kind of hard to get
31:12
Speaker 6: in there, I guess. And so I had sent them
31:14
Speaker 6: kind of a shitty portfolio, and I didn't get accepted.
31:17
Speaker 2: You've got to play this game. Wait a minute.
31:21
Speaker 6: So I didn't end up there. And my mom, just
31:24
Speaker 6: to kind of get me out of the house, like
31:26
Speaker 6: applied to ET El Paso kind of as a stopgap.
31:30
Speaker 6: So I'd have at least someplace to go if that
31:34
Speaker 6: didn't work out at CalArts, which it didn't. So I
31:39
Speaker 6: ended up in El Paso. And then when I was
31:40
Speaker 6: in El Paso, I started playing music and heard about
31:44
Speaker 6: the scene in Austin and ended up moving to Austin
31:47
Speaker 6: and dropping out of school and just that's what I've
31:52
Speaker 6: been doing ever since is making music in Austin.
31:55
Speaker 2: I mean, that's Austin's identity at this point. It is
31:58
Speaker 2: one of the few places I've been like, okay, if
32:00
Speaker 2: I need to relocate like Austin. So I don't know
32:02
Speaker 2: you having been there as long as you have, what,
32:04
Speaker 2: what has that scene become? Cause I'm assuming it was
32:07
Speaker 2: already a thing when you got there, but now it's,
32:10
Speaker 2: it's grown and become such a huge thing, just music
32:14
Speaker 2: and film and all of the arts.
32:18
Speaker 6: Well, um, When I first got there, South by Southwest
32:22
Speaker 6: started maybe like the year after I got there. And
32:27
Speaker 6: it started off, and even when it started, it was
32:29
Speaker 6: a pretty big thing. I think there was like 400
32:31
Speaker 6: or 500 bands that were playing the first year. But
32:35
Speaker 6: it was a lot of local bands because there was
32:38
Speaker 6: quite a huge music scene for the size of the town.
32:40
Speaker 6: Now that has grown into something. It's way bigger than
32:45
Speaker 6: South by Southwest. It's a huge party. And South by
32:49
Speaker 6: Southwest now is just a small part of what happens
32:53
Speaker 6: in March in Austin. There's the film festival. There's the technology.
32:59
Speaker 2: Fantastic Fest. Yeah, so many.
33:02
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's like gaming. And so it's this huge thing
33:07
Speaker 6: that happens now that it's grown into. But the music
33:11
Speaker 6: scene itself in Austin, I think... uh hasn't necessarily gotten
33:16
Speaker 6: bigger it might even be a little less than it
33:19
Speaker 6: was when i first got there just because the cost
33:21
Speaker 6: of living has kind of gone through the roof so
33:23
Speaker 6: it's really tough to make a living uh or make
33:28
Speaker 6: enough of a living uh playing music in austin you
33:31
Speaker 6: know to support yourself in that city just because it's
33:33
Speaker 6: so expensive now yeah and.
33:35
Speaker 2: I guess there's a lot of competition now like If
33:39
Speaker 2: you're in a smaller town with a handful of bands,
33:42
Speaker 2: I would assume you'd get a little more work.
33:44
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's tough to make a living there. It's kind
33:48
Speaker 6: of like Nashville. People are pretty picky, I think. I've
33:53
Speaker 6: been pretty fortunate. It's just that I've been doing it
33:58
Speaker 6: there for so long, so I think a lot of
34:00
Speaker 6: people are familiar with what I do, and so I'm
34:04
Speaker 6: able to do it. But it's not easy.
34:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely not. Again, blurring the lines here, one of
34:12
Speaker 2: the other things I've noticed over the years is the
34:14
Speaker 2: videos that you put out. It seems like there's a
34:16
Speaker 2: lot of thought and work that goes into those. It's
34:21
Speaker 2: definitely after the song is done, but how instrumental is that?
34:25
Speaker 2: Or at least as far as your take on finding
34:28
Speaker 2: an artistic spin to put on it.
34:31
Speaker 6: Well, I don't necessarily put a lot of time and
34:38
Speaker 6: energy into the video side of things. I probably should
34:40
Speaker 6: put more energy into it, but, um, but I have,
34:46
Speaker 6: you know, I have made some videos myself. I started, uh,
34:49
Speaker 6: when I first started doing it, uh, when I first got, uh,
34:55
Speaker 6: signed to universal records back in 2001 with my first record, uh,
35:01
Speaker 6: I went down there and talked to those guys and
35:04
Speaker 6: we recorded the I'd already recorded the record, so they
35:07
Speaker 6: were just going to re-release it. But I was excited
35:10
Speaker 6: about them making a video and seeing what would happen there.
35:14
Speaker 6: And when I was in the meeting with them, they
35:16
Speaker 6: just handed me a little video camera. And they were like,
35:22
Speaker 6: here's your video camera. Now go make a video. And
35:25
Speaker 6: I was like, I'd never edited film before. I'd never
35:30
Speaker 6: made anything. So I had to learn how to you know,
35:34
Speaker 6: use Adobe Premiere and kind of taught myself how to
35:42
Speaker 6: edit video. And so I just started making videos and
35:47
Speaker 6: made all the videos for my first record that way.
35:50
Speaker 6: And even to this day, I still, you know, that's
35:56
Speaker 6: something I've learned how to do. Just By necessity, not
36:02
Speaker 6: necessarily because I wanted to.
36:03
Speaker 2: The hard way, because you had to, because nobody else
36:06
Speaker 2: was going to.
36:07
Speaker 6: Well, it's a lot of work. I mean, writing songs
36:10
Speaker 6: and recording them and playing live, that takes up a
36:13
Speaker 6: lot of energy and time. So then adding to that,
36:20
Speaker 6: filming and editing a video and coming up with ideas
36:24
Speaker 6: for it, that's even more work. I don't necessarily... enjoy
36:30
Speaker 6: the extra work but uh i mean it's something i've
36:34
Speaker 6: done and and uh you know it's it's like anything
36:37
Speaker 6: that's creative uh i you know i enjoy making things
36:42
Speaker 6: so uh it's it's in that regard it's kind of
36:45
Speaker 6: cool to have made something you know a video or
36:48
Speaker 6: something but um i don't know i'd rather somebody else do.
36:53
Speaker 2: It That was the other thing that I thought was
36:57
Speaker 2: kind of cool was that several years ago you started
36:59
Speaker 2: that project that was just like, I'm opening this up
37:02
Speaker 2: to everybody I know that wants to make films. And
37:04
Speaker 2: you pulled together some pretty impressive filmmakers. I guess the
37:08
Speaker 2: most notable, Robert Rodriguez, coming in. So that was kind
37:11
Speaker 2: of a cool project that you were like, I can
37:13
Speaker 2: be in the video if you want. I don't have
37:15
Speaker 2: to be in the video. It was a very creative
37:19
Speaker 2: outlet for the directors.
37:21
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, that was the King Kong record that I made,
37:24
Speaker 6: which was, no, not King Kong, sorry, Burden of Proof.
37:29
Speaker 6: And the thing about that record was I put a
37:32
Speaker 6: string section in the whole, like on every track, which
37:37
Speaker 6: kind of gave it this sort of cinematic quality to
37:41
Speaker 6: the music. It made it very dramatic sounding and lush.
37:45
Speaker 6: And I was like, oh, this would be great music.
37:48
Speaker 6: as a soundtrack. So I just basically went and talked
37:52
Speaker 6: to a bunch of people that I knew that made films.
37:54
Speaker 6: Robert Rodriguez was one of them and asked them, you know, like, Hey,
38:00
Speaker 6: do you want to use this music sort of as
38:02
Speaker 6: a soundtrack? You can do whatever you want, whatever idea
38:05
Speaker 6: you want. You can use me, not use me. It's
38:08
Speaker 6: up to you. Uh, the only drawback is there was
38:11
Speaker 6: a thousand dollar cap on the budget.
38:15
Speaker 2: Which, that's fine for Rodriguez. That's the old days for him.
38:20
Speaker 6: The cool thing about capping it at $ 1, 000 is it
38:22
Speaker 6: really leveled the playing field, and then it was more
38:25
Speaker 6: about how creative can you get. And Robert's video turned
38:31
Speaker 6: out great. It looks like a much more expensive video,
38:37
Speaker 6: but he just got an old Canon handheld SLR and
38:43
Speaker 6: Shot it himself with his assistant. Played the other lady
38:47
Speaker 6: in the video. It took him about a day for
38:50
Speaker 6: us to shoot it. Probably another half a day for
38:54
Speaker 6: him to edit it. And it turned out great. But
38:58
Speaker 6: that just shows you how great he is at what
39:01
Speaker 6: he does. If you're good at what you do, you
39:08
Speaker 6: don't necessarily need a lot of money to make art.
39:12
Speaker 2: Is he very specific as to how he wanted you?
39:16
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a crazy square gun fight, but, but
39:19
Speaker 2: still how specific was he on framing and set up
39:22
Speaker 2: of each, you know, shot or was it a little
39:24
Speaker 2: more just kind of roll with it?
39:26
Speaker 6: Oh, he knows exactly what he's doing. Um, but yeah
39:31
Speaker 6: i mean he didn't like storyboard or anything he just
39:34
Speaker 6: uh you know just knew what he wanted us to
39:36
Speaker 6: do and told us where to go and yeah like
39:40
Speaker 6: i said it took a day to shoot yeah.
39:42
Speaker 2: At this point i think he has so much mapped
39:44
Speaker 2: out in his head it's just been making it happen
39:46
Speaker 2: in the real world but.
39:48
Speaker 18: Yeah I became a ghost in your arms. I was
40:04
Speaker 18: all alone.
40:37
Speaker 15: I was broken I thought you could save.
40:53
Speaker 20: Me I became a cloud in your mouth I was.
41:19
Speaker 1: Out in the blue Hanging over you.
43:01
Speaker 2: That was Swimming in the Sea from Bob, of course,
43:04
Speaker 2: but the reason we got that one is that is,
43:06
Speaker 2: in fact, the video that was directed by Robert Rodriguez.
43:10
Speaker 2: So go look it up on the internet. It is
43:12
Speaker 2: undoubtedly directed by Robert Rodriguez. Very stylish, and as usual,
43:16
Speaker 2: he finds a way to put a comedic twist on
43:18
Speaker 2: even the most serious of situations. So definitely go check
43:22
Speaker 2: out that video. Well, the other thing, it's funny that
43:28
Speaker 2: you even set up that one as like a soundtrack
43:31
Speaker 2: because that's more or less what we end up doing
43:33
Speaker 2: on this show is sort of finding the way music
43:36
Speaker 2: crosses over into films. And you've actually ended up on
43:39
Speaker 2: a lot of soundtracks over the years. So I always
43:40
Speaker 2: try to get a feel for how much of a
43:43
Speaker 2: process that is. And if it's something that like, sometimes
43:47
Speaker 2: it just sort of ends up with you just meet
43:50
Speaker 2: the right person and they are looking for a song
43:52
Speaker 2: and it ends up on their soundtrack. Other times they
43:54
Speaker 2: kind of bring you in and specifically like, have you
43:57
Speaker 2: work on something specifically for the film? So I guess,
44:01
Speaker 2: which have you had a little more of over the years?
44:04
Speaker 6: Well, I've had some people ask me to do some
44:06
Speaker 6: soundtrack work for them on like little tiny projects. And
44:12
Speaker 6: so I've done that just to see what that would
44:14
Speaker 6: be like. But it's a lot of work. And at
44:18
Speaker 6: the end of the day, it's not something I'm really
44:21
Speaker 6: interested in doing. I like writing songs and I like
44:24
Speaker 6: performing them. That's really where my main interest lies. In
44:31
Speaker 6: the last few years, whenever anybody comes and asks me
44:34
Speaker 6: to do that, I'm like, well, I've written a lot
44:38
Speaker 6: of instrumental music. You're welcome to go through it and
44:42
Speaker 6: see if there's something that you can use. In terms
44:45
Speaker 6: of actually writing something specifically for something, again, doing that
44:51
Speaker 6: is going to take away from what I really want
44:54
Speaker 6: to do, which is I like to write songs, and
45:00
Speaker 6: so it's not something I'm really going to spend a
45:03
Speaker 6: lot of time or energy on.
45:05
Speaker 2: Moving full-time into the score category.
45:07
Speaker 1: Yeah.
45:08
Speaker 2: But there are, I mean, I did notice there's three
45:11
Speaker 2: different times you turn up on Sandra Bullock's soundtracks. I think,
45:14
Speaker 2: is there something going on with you and Sandra is
45:17
Speaker 2: what I want to know.
45:18
Speaker 6: Well, yeah. I mean, we were dating for a couple years,
45:21
Speaker 6: so when we were dating, she produced a couple films, obviously.
45:24
Speaker 3: Yeah.
45:26
Speaker 6: Uh you know that that was just straight nepotism where
45:29
Speaker 6: she was familiar with my music needed some music for
45:32
Speaker 6: a film and and i got on those soundtracks.
45:35
Speaker 2: That's that's the best way i had it that works
45:38
Speaker 2: yeah yeah that's how i get you in the door
45:40
Speaker 2: in any situation so yeah well then i also like
45:43
Speaker 2: to go through and have people pick like stuff that
45:45
Speaker 2: not necessarily yours but just examples of stuff that you've
45:49
Speaker 2: found over the years that you think win like song
45:53
Speaker 2: and and film kind of work together really well and
45:55
Speaker 2: something that's like a good version of, of it that
45:59
Speaker 2: you've just liked either growing up or something recent or
46:01
Speaker 2: just songs that you've liked that are used in film.
46:05
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I, one of my favorite directors is
46:07
Speaker 6: Quentin Tarantino. I think he's the guy as far as
46:11
Speaker 6: in my time has used music the most, uh, dramatically
46:19
Speaker 6: or profoundly, you know, uh, Obviously, people have used popular
46:25
Speaker 6: music and films throughout the years, but he just kind
46:29
Speaker 6: of came along and really made it his own.
46:32
Speaker 2: A new level, more or less.
46:34
Speaker 6: He took it to a different level. I mean, he's
46:37
Speaker 6: the guy that comes to mind right away.
46:40
Speaker 3: ¶ ¶ ¶ ¶ ¶ Baby, do you understand now
46:55
Speaker 3: ¶ Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood.
47:45
Speaker 21: I want you to know that I never meant.
47:49
Speaker 3: To take it out on you. Life has its.
47:53
Speaker 1: Problems and I've got my share.
47:55
Speaker 21: That's one thing I never meant to do.
47:58
Speaker 3: Cause I love you, baby.
48:00
Speaker 1: Don't you know I'm just human?
48:03
Speaker 21: And I've got thoughts like any other man.
48:07
Speaker 3: And sometimes I bring.
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Speaker 22: My Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood.
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Speaker 1: Oh Lord.
48:34
Speaker 22: Don't you let me be misunderstood Don't let me be.
49:37
Speaker 3: So so Thank you.
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Speaker 1: So so.
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Speaker 3: So so.
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Speaker 16: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 3: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Come on, baby.
53:05
Speaker 3: You're so sweet.
53:08
Speaker 1: My sweet.
53:12
Speaker 3: Tell me about it, baby. Tell me about it, baby.
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Speaker 3: I love you.
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Speaker 2: Oh, baby, baby.
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Speaker 3: Come on. You're so sweet. Oh, baby.
53:29
Speaker 18: Oh, please.
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Speaker 6: Oh, baby.
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Speaker 1: Oh, baby.
54:16
Speaker 3: Hey there, do you understand me now?
54:20
Speaker 21: Sometimes I feel a little bad But don't you know
54:25
Speaker 21: that knowing a lie can always be an anger When
54:29
Speaker 21: things go wrong or seem to be.
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Speaker 23: Bad Cause I'm just.
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Speaker 1: A soul whose intentions are good Oh Lord.
54:37
Speaker 24: Please don't let me be misunderstood Oh Lord, please don't.
54:54
Speaker 21: Let me be misunderstood.
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Speaker 1: I want you to.
55:22
Speaker 22: Know that I never meant to take it out on you.
55:27
Speaker 21: Life has its problems and I've got my share. That's
55:32
Speaker 21: one thing I never meant to do.
55:35
Speaker 3: Cause I love you.
55:36
Speaker 1: Oh, baby, don't you know I'm cute?
55:39
Speaker 3: I have thoughts like.
55:41
Speaker 1: Any other man.
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Speaker 22: And sometimes I feel myself alone, regretting some foolish thing,
55:49
Speaker 22: some foolish.
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Speaker 7: Thing I've done.
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Speaker 3: Because I miss the.
55:54
Speaker 22: Soul whose intentions are good.
55:57
Speaker 1: Oh, Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood.
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Speaker 3: Oh, Lord.
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Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know. There's always, you know, like
56:44
Speaker 6: every year you can find a film that really uses
56:47
Speaker 6: music in a great way. I mean, that Juno movie
56:52
Speaker 6: was great with all the moldy peaches and Kimmy Dawson stuff.
56:56
Speaker 11: You're a part-time lover and a full-time friend. The monkey
57:00
Speaker 11: on your back is the latest trend. I don't see
57:03
Speaker 11: what anyone can see in anyone else.
57:09
Speaker 25: I'll kiss you on the brain in the shadow of
57:12
Speaker 25: the train. I'll kiss you all starry-eyed, my body swinging
57:15
Speaker 25: from side to side. I don't see what anyone can
57:17
Speaker 25: see in anyone else.
57:22
Speaker 11: Here is the church and here is the steeple. We
57:26
Speaker 11: sure are cute for two ugly people. I don't see
57:30
Speaker 11: what anyone can see in anyone else.
57:35
Speaker 25: The pebbles forgive me, the trees forgive me So why
57:40
Speaker 25: can't you forgive me? I don't see what anyone can
57:44
Speaker 25: see in anyone else.
57:48
Speaker 16: But I will find.
57:50
Speaker 11: My niche in your car With my mp3, dvd, rumble
57:54
Speaker 11: pat guitar I don't see what anyone can see in anyone.
57:59
Speaker 26: Else But you... Up, up, down.
58:16
Speaker 11: Down, left, right, left, right, B, A, start Just because
58:19
Speaker 11: we use cheats doesn't mean we're not smart I don't
58:22
Speaker 11: see what anyone can see in anyone else.
58:27
Speaker 25: But you are always trying to keep it real I'm
58:32
Speaker 25: in love with how you feel I don't see what
58:35
Speaker 25: anyone can see in anyone else.
58:40
Speaker 16: But We both.
58:42
Speaker 11: Have shiny happy fits of rage You want more fans,
58:46
Speaker 11: I want more stage I don't see what anyone can
58:49
Speaker 11: see in anyone else.
58:54
Speaker 27: But Don Quixote was a steel driving man my name
58:58
Speaker 27: is Adam I'm your biggest fan I don't see what
59:02
Speaker 27: anyone can see in anyone else.
59:07
Speaker 1: But squinched up.
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Speaker 11: Your face and did a dance Shook a little turd
59:12
Speaker 11: out of the bottom of your pants I don't see
59:15
Speaker 11: what anyone can see in anyone.
59:17
Speaker 1: Else But you.
59:26
Speaker 26: But you.
59:36
Speaker 6: Like the movie from this year that Call Me By
59:40
Speaker 6: Your Name had the Sufjan Stevens songs in it. And
59:43
Speaker 6: those worked really well in that movie.
59:48
Speaker 28: It's been a long, long time since I've memorized your
59:52
Speaker 28: face It's been four hours now since I've wandered through
59:58
Speaker 28: your place And when I sleep on your couch I
1:00:04
Speaker 28: feel very.
1:00:05
Speaker 3: Safe And when.
1:00:09
Speaker 28: You bring the blankets.
1:00:11
Speaker 3: I cover up my face I do love you.
1:00:42
Speaker 23: And when you.
1:00:43
Speaker 28: Play guitar I listen to the strings buzz The metal
1:00:50
Speaker 28: vibrates underneath your fingers And when you crochet I feel
1:00:59
Speaker 28: mesmerized and proud And I would say I love you
1:01:05
Speaker 28: but saying it out.
1:01:08
Speaker 3: Loud is.
1:01:25
Speaker 29: So, I mean, there'd be too many, really, examples to mention, really.
1:01:31
Speaker 29: People are always doing it.
1:01:37
Speaker 23: Yeah.
1:01:38
Speaker 25: Yeah.
1:01:52
Speaker 2: That's kind of what I like. I think it works
1:01:54
Speaker 2: both ways. You can kind of pull older stuff that
1:01:57
Speaker 2: maybe the filmmaker really liked, like Tarantino does a lot
1:02:00
Speaker 2: of times, or you can find these new artists and
1:02:03
Speaker 2: be like, I want to work you specifically into this.
1:02:06
Speaker 2: So it kind of comes from both angles and you
1:02:09
Speaker 2: can end up finding music you never were familiar with
1:02:12
Speaker 2: just through these different films.
1:02:14
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:02:15
Speaker 6: Well, it's such a powerful thing, film. I mean, and
1:02:18
Speaker 6: music especially is such a huge part of the emotional
1:02:26
Speaker 6: you know compass or whatever in a film uh i
1:02:30
Speaker 6: mean depending on you know what the music is it's
1:02:34
Speaker 6: gonna make you feel a certain way i've been watching
1:02:37
Speaker 6: this show on netflix called the great british baking show
1:02:41
Speaker 6: yes which is this wonderful Like, you know, it's like
1:02:44
Speaker 6: Top Chef. It's a baking competition. Have you seen it?
1:02:46
Speaker 6: It's a baking competition show.
1:02:47
Speaker 5: I know.
1:02:47
Speaker 2: It's one of those, like, I know the hardcore fans, like,
1:02:50
Speaker 2: love it and then love the older version. Like, it
1:02:52
Speaker 2: just took a weird turn when it, like, they lost
1:02:55
Speaker 2: a bunch of the hosts. So it's, like, even the
1:02:57
Speaker 2: fan base is so, like, rabid about it that, like, there's, like,
1:03:02
Speaker 2: A turning point for them where it's like, oh, I
1:03:04
Speaker 2: like the old version of it.
1:03:05
Speaker 6: Well, I've only seen the version that's been on for
1:03:08
Speaker 6: the last four years.
1:03:09
Speaker 2: I think they're even trying– I think they may have
1:03:10
Speaker 2: already done an American version that, again, nobody liked. Everybody
1:03:13
Speaker 2: liked the original, the British version.
1:03:16
Speaker 6: Well, the original– the version that I've seen that's on
1:03:20
Speaker 6: Netflix is from the last four years. It's like 2012
1:03:23
Speaker 6: through 2016. And it's very British-ish. And the people are British,
1:03:30
Speaker 6: and they're super nice, and they're amateur bakers, and everybody's
1:03:34
Speaker 6: very supportive. But I think really when you break it
1:03:38
Speaker 6: down as to why that show is so good, I
1:03:41
Speaker 6: really think a lot of it has to do with
1:03:43
Speaker 6: the music. Yeah. Because the way they incorporate the soundtrack
1:03:50
Speaker 6: into that show really adds this emotional depth to it
1:03:54
Speaker 6: that other shows don't have. I mean, I'll watch it,
1:04:00
Speaker 6: and I could cry every episode. And I'm like, why
1:04:03
Speaker 6: am I crying here? But it's the music. The music's
1:04:07
Speaker 6: really telling me, oh, this is where you should feel sad.
1:04:13
Speaker 6: I always cry at love. Anytime there's love in a movie,
1:04:17
Speaker 6: it makes me cry. And there's just so much love
1:04:20
Speaker 6: in that show. And again, it's the music telling me,
1:04:24
Speaker 6: this is where you should cry.
1:04:27
Speaker 2: That's again, it's, it's such an impressive tool. If you
1:04:30
Speaker 2: know how to use it, like it is as much
1:04:32
Speaker 2: as cinematography or, you know, there's so many other pieces
1:04:35
Speaker 2: going into filming anything, but like music, if you know
1:04:38
Speaker 2: how to use it as equally as powerful.
1:04:41
Speaker 6: Well, it is crazy how like the best soundtrack music
1:04:47
Speaker 6: is the stuff you don't even, you're not even aware of.
1:04:50
Speaker 6: Like as soon as you become aware of it, it's
1:04:51
Speaker 6: almost like, it's failed in a way. Like, it should
1:04:55
Speaker 6: be absolutely invisible. I just was watching a movie called
1:05:00
Speaker 6: Lever to Heaven, which is just the most insane, old
1:05:07
Speaker 6: 1940s technicolor, weird film.
1:05:10
Speaker 1: Noir movie.
1:05:10
Speaker 6: I don't know if you've ever seen it.
1:05:12
Speaker 2: I know it by title. I don't know if I've
1:05:13
Speaker 2: watched it.
1:05:14
Speaker 16: It's so.
1:05:15
Speaker 6: I think Barbara Stanwyck maybe is the... Somebody like that
1:05:18
Speaker 6: is the lead. Somebody like... I've never... Seen a movie
1:05:22
Speaker 6: with her. And she's weird. She doesn't even look human.
1:05:26
Speaker 6: But what's so weird about this movie is Randy Newman's dad,
1:05:29
Speaker 6: Alfred Newman, does the soundtrack. And I never really heard
1:05:33
Speaker 6: any Alfred Newman music. But I'm a huge fan of
1:05:35
Speaker 6: Randy Newman. Him and Tom Waits are my two favorite
1:05:38
Speaker 6: musician writers of all time. And so it was interesting.
1:05:44
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, this is what Randy Newman grew up.
1:05:48
Speaker 6: on watching these films and listening to this music. And
1:05:51
Speaker 6: the music was insane. Well, the movie is insane. But
1:05:58
Speaker 6: what makes it so weird is the music cues had
1:06:02
Speaker 6: nothing to do with what was going on on screen.
1:06:05
Speaker 6: And there'd be somebody just walking through a room and
1:06:08
Speaker 6: the music would be ultra dramatic.
1:06:11
Speaker 2: Dun, dun, dun.
1:06:12
Speaker 30: Yeah, it'd be like, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.
1:06:16
Speaker 30: and it'd just be like somebody walking around a room
1:06:20
Speaker 30: and then you're like so you you're geared up emotionally
1:06:23
Speaker 30: and waiting for something to happen because the music's telling
1:06:25
Speaker 30: you that and nothing would happen it was so bizarre
1:06:30
Speaker 30: like if you ever want to just treat yourself to
1:06:32
Speaker 30: something interesting check.
1:06:33
Speaker 2: That out there's there's the recommend for this.
1:07:10
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
1:08:42
Speaker 3: Thank you.
1:09:08
Speaker 23: The Radio Theater, starring Gene Tierney and Cornel Wilde in.
1:09:13
Speaker 14: Leave Her to Heaven.
1:09:15
Speaker 30: Ladies and gentlemen, your producer, Mr.
1:09:17
Speaker 9: William Keeley.
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Speaker 19: We was hitchhiking down a long and lonesome road.
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Speaker 8: All of a sudden, there shined a shiny demon in
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Speaker 8: the middle of the road.
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Speaker 1: And he said.
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Speaker 20: Hey, this is KG of Tenacious D, and you're listening
1:10:38
Speaker 20: to Movie Meltdown with Brian.
1:10:42
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
1:10:42
Speaker 28: Fuck!
1:10:52
Speaker 2: Now, in a few minutes, you'll hear me jokingly reference
1:10:55
Speaker 2: that time that Bob and I recorded an album together. Well,
1:10:58
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what I tell people. Of course, my
1:11:01
Speaker 2: part is just sort of clapping way in the background,
1:11:03
Speaker 2: but people don't need to know that part. No, what
1:11:06
Speaker 2: I'm actually referencing is something Bob came up with called
1:11:09
Speaker 2: a frunk. And basically, it's kind of amazing. I mean,
1:11:12
Speaker 2: just by the process that goes on. Now, again, let
1:11:16
Speaker 2: me take you back to that same live show I
1:11:18
Speaker 2: saw of Bob's many years ago. And after this great show,
1:11:22
Speaker 2: I went back to the merch table, and lo and behold,
1:11:24
Speaker 2: they had this Frunk CD, which was Bob performing live.
1:11:28
Speaker 2: But wait, not just some live show from the past. No,
1:11:32
Speaker 2: the one I just finished watching. Like, a few minutes ago. Like,
1:11:37
Speaker 2: while they were still breaking down the equipment on the stage,
1:11:40
Speaker 2: you can go back and get a t-shirt, or you
1:11:42
Speaker 2: can get a copy of the show you just watched.
1:11:45
Speaker 2: It kind of blew my mind. And remember, this was
1:11:48
Speaker 2: many years ago, so as I said, it was still
1:11:51
Speaker 2: a CD. So right there, at the merch table, in
1:11:54
Speaker 2: an outdoor venue, mind you, they had several computer towers
1:11:58
Speaker 2: set up, furiously burning CDs of that night's show. Immediately afterward,
1:12:04
Speaker 2: I was just awestruck, standing there in line, watching it happen. So,
1:12:07
Speaker 2: of course, I had to have one. And of course, now,
1:12:10
Speaker 2: many years later, as I get to sit down and
1:12:13
Speaker 2: talk with them, I have to ask him about that
1:12:15
Speaker 2: crazy process, and more importantly, just what possessed him to
1:12:19
Speaker 2: add that feature to his live show. Plus, back then,
1:12:23
Speaker 2: he came out after the show and was signing CDs,
1:12:25
Speaker 2: and in that 30 seconds we stood there together as
1:12:28
Speaker 2: he signed it, he said something very nonchalantly that actually
1:12:33
Speaker 2: stuck with me all these years, and I specifically wanted
1:12:36
Speaker 2: to find out just what he meant by that comment.
1:12:39
Speaker 2: So with that, let's get back to talking with Bob
1:12:41
Speaker 2: and hear all about that and more.
1:12:49
Speaker 6: But I mean, that's the thing about Randy Newman's music
1:12:51
Speaker 6: that's so wonderful is that his songs are so simple.
1:12:55
Speaker 6: Like lyrically, they're very simple and there's a lot of,
1:12:58
Speaker 6: he doesn't go into a lot of detail. But then
1:13:01
Speaker 6: with the music, he fills in all the gaps and
1:13:04
Speaker 6: he points you towards what you're supposed to be feeling.
1:13:08
Speaker 6: And it's very special.
1:13:11
Speaker 2: Well, there was one I was going to work to
1:13:13
Speaker 2: to kind of wrap it up. we've met very briefly
1:13:16
Speaker 2: in the past. I'd like to think we recorded an
1:13:18
Speaker 2: album together. We did a Frunk album. I was going
1:13:22
Speaker 2: to see what, um, what led you to do those.
1:13:25
Speaker 6: Oh, to do the Frunks?
1:13:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, this, this was, I mean, years ago. It was, uh,
1:13:30
Speaker 2: when you came through here and did one on the
1:13:32
Speaker 2: waterfront years ago. And it was, it was kind of
1:13:36
Speaker 2: an amazing set anyway, but then even more so that
1:13:39
Speaker 2: like once, once it was done, the fact that they
1:13:41
Speaker 2: just sort of hand you a, uh, a soundtrack of
1:13:44
Speaker 2: what you just, you know, lived through. So it was
1:13:47
Speaker 2: an interesting concept. And rarely have I seen anybody doing
1:13:50
Speaker 2: that and not doing that themselves. You know, there's been
1:13:53
Speaker 2: a lot of like, you know, Grateful Dead kind of
1:13:55
Speaker 2: version that people have been bootlegging and they just gave
1:13:58
Speaker 2: the okay. But it's weird to have somebody doing it themselves,
1:14:01
Speaker 2: mostly because once again, you're just creating a lot of
1:14:03
Speaker 2: work for yourself.
1:14:05
Speaker 6: Well, I was, I got the idea from Mark Broussard
1:14:09
Speaker 6: during a show at South by Southwest years ago, probably.
1:14:12
Speaker 6: 12 years ago, maybe 13 years ago. Now I really
1:14:16
Speaker 6: don't know. Uh, he was doing it. He was recording
1:14:19
Speaker 6: his shows and I was like, Oh, I got to
1:14:21
Speaker 6: start doing this because the, the cool thing I think
1:14:24
Speaker 6: about my shows is that they're pretty unique. I don't necessarily, um,
1:14:30
Speaker 6: have anything I'm going to say, uh, in mind. So the,
1:14:34
Speaker 6: the shows tend to be pretty unique and, uh, kind
1:14:37
Speaker 6: of stand out in a way that, you know, maybe
1:14:41
Speaker 6: other artists, like they prepare stories and they have the
1:14:46
Speaker 6: same songs that they play every night. And, uh, I've
1:14:51
Speaker 6: just never done it that way. Uh, I don't use
1:14:53
Speaker 6: a set list. Uh, I just, I'm kind of, you know,
1:14:57
Speaker 6: kind of spur of the moment, however I'm feeling. So
1:14:59
Speaker 6: the shows tend to be unique. So I was like, oh,
1:15:01
Speaker 6: this would be a great way to capture sort of
1:15:03
Speaker 6: this snapshot of this unique event. And then also people
1:15:07
Speaker 6: just like having a souvenir of the night.
1:15:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is one of those that I've not only
1:15:13
Speaker 2: am glad that I have, but have played probably more
1:15:16
Speaker 2: than a lot of other albums because of that weird connection.
1:15:19
Speaker 6: Well, the other thing that's kind of cool about it
1:15:20
Speaker 6: is because I'm so prolific, I write so many songs,
1:15:23
Speaker 6: lots of times I'll be playing songs uh, live that, uh,
1:15:29
Speaker 6: maybe I'll only play a few times and then never
1:15:32
Speaker 6: play again. We'll never go on a record. And so
1:15:34
Speaker 6: a lot of these live recordings have songs that that's
1:15:37
Speaker 6: the only place you can actually hear them. Uh, or
1:15:40
Speaker 6: I'll just make up a song or, you know, whatever,
1:15:43
Speaker 6: I'll do something stupid. So there's that as well.
1:15:46
Speaker 2: That was, yeah, there was some great stuff there. And,
1:15:48
Speaker 2: and then that's, that's sort of what led me back
1:15:50
Speaker 2: into wanting to sit down with you is that afterwards
1:15:52
Speaker 2: you were signing them as well as they're firing them
1:15:55
Speaker 2: out of the computer, which, That whole project, it alone
1:15:58
Speaker 2: seems overwhelming. But again, there, I have much less to
1:16:04
Speaker 2: say in like 10-second snippets. I can sit down and
1:16:07
Speaker 2: do this now, but I was just like, all right,
1:16:09
Speaker 2: I don't have much. So it was a very general, hey,
1:16:12
Speaker 2: I really like the show kind of thing. And I
1:16:15
Speaker 2: may be paraphrasing here, but it's been a decade or more.
1:16:19
Speaker 2: But your response, I think, was something to the effect
1:16:22
Speaker 2: of pretty simple stuff. You can disagree if that doesn't
1:16:25
Speaker 2: sound like you, but it led me to want to like,
1:16:28
Speaker 2: I'm like, so what, I guess, what is your take
1:16:31
Speaker 2: on that? I guess musically. And then is that also
1:16:35
Speaker 2: just sort of an approach to life? It's just like
1:16:38
Speaker 2: how you, how you want to live your, your day-to-day
1:16:41
Speaker 2: life and you're on stage life and just creating music
1:16:45
Speaker 2: and is, I don't know, all of that.
1:16:47
Speaker 6: What do you mean?
1:16:48
Speaker 2: Like, I mean, I don't, that's kind of the way
1:16:51
Speaker 2: I took it is like, it was, it was, you
1:16:54
Speaker 2: not trying any harder than need be. It's like you
1:16:57
Speaker 2: doing what came natural to you and that's what you
1:17:01
Speaker 2: did and it didn't make it any more difficult than
1:17:03
Speaker 2: it needed to.
1:17:05
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I take, I do like, I take
1:17:12
Speaker 6: what I do very seriously and I do have this
1:17:15
Speaker 6: sort of, I think people do kind of see what
1:17:18
Speaker 6: I do and they go, oh, that looks pretty easy.
1:17:23
Speaker 6: what he's doing. Cause I do, I do like simple.
1:17:27
Speaker 6: I do like simplicity. Uh, I think like for me, the,
1:17:33
Speaker 6: the hardest challenge is to take a very simple song
1:17:39
Speaker 6: structure and make something unique out of it. Like to
1:17:41
Speaker 6: me that it's like that equals MC squared, very simple
1:17:47
Speaker 6: math equation. And I think of songs is like, uh,
1:17:50
Speaker 6: equations like solvable problems. And if I can do it
1:17:55
Speaker 6: in the simplest way, then I've succeeded. Uh, it's, I
1:18:01
Speaker 6: feel like it's pretty easy to make things complicated or
1:18:04
Speaker 6: do things that nobody's ever heard of or done because
1:18:08
Speaker 6: you just have to make it weird and strange. It
1:18:11
Speaker 6: doesn't necessarily make you good. Um, so I do, I
1:18:16
Speaker 6: take solving the problems or the problem solving of writing
1:18:20
Speaker 6: songs and performing songs. very i take that part of
1:18:24
Speaker 6: it very seriously but hopefully at the end of the
1:18:27
Speaker 6: day when i'm done it looks very simple and easy
1:18:31
Speaker 6: uh and it looks like i don't give a shit because.
1:18:38
Speaker 2: I didn't feel that way but yeah it's good to
1:18:41
Speaker 2: hear that that's not the case.
1:18:42
Speaker 6: Well ultimately where you want to be when you're performing
1:18:44
Speaker 6: is to not give a shit like you just want
1:18:48
Speaker 6: to be loose and free and just feeling like I
1:18:51
Speaker 6: can do whatever I want because I'm on stage and
1:18:53
Speaker 6: this is where I shine. So that's what you're going
1:18:56
Speaker 6: for when you're, when you're playing live. But I mean,
1:19:00
Speaker 6: at the end of the day, I do put a
1:19:01
Speaker 6: lot of work into it and, uh, and I do
1:19:04
Speaker 6: take it very seriously. And, and, I don't mind that
1:19:09
Speaker 6: because I love what I do. I love waking up
1:19:13
Speaker 6: in the morning and there not being anything there. And
1:19:15
Speaker 6: then when I go to bed at night, there's something
1:19:17
Speaker 6: new in the world that wasn't there when I woke up.
1:19:21
Speaker 6: So because I get a chance to do that, I
1:19:23
Speaker 6: feel very blessed.
1:19:25
Speaker 2: I like that elaboration.
1:19:27
Speaker 6: It's come full circle now.
1:19:28
Speaker 2: Yeah. otherwise i guess what's uh the best place you've
1:19:33
Speaker 2: got a pretty good internet presence you've got a really
1:19:35
Speaker 2: impressive website what's the best place for people to find
1:19:38
Speaker 2: you and find out about shows and singles and albums.
1:19:41
Speaker 6: I think just bobschneider.com is the best place to start.
1:19:44
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah all right all right well cool thank you
1:19:47
Speaker 2: for being on man appreciate it thanks So obviously a
1:20:00
Speaker 2: big thank you to Bob for sitting in with me
1:20:02
Speaker 2: this week. It's been a long time coming, and I'm
1:20:05
Speaker 2: glad we finally got a chance to have him on
1:20:07
Speaker 2: the show. And just to follow up, you heard the
1:20:11
Speaker 2: reason for all the Sandra Bullock soundtracks, right? I mean, man,
1:20:16
Speaker 2: I was jealous of him before, but that's just because
1:20:19
Speaker 2: he's a great songwriter and he can play guitar. But
1:20:23
Speaker 2: dated Sandra. I have to say, it is quite a
1:20:27
Speaker 2: life he's led. And continues to lead. I mean, he's
1:20:31
Speaker 2: out there playing live pretty much all the time. So
1:20:34
Speaker 2: go to his website, bobschneider.com, which that link will be
1:20:38
Speaker 2: in the notes for this very episode. So go there
1:20:40
Speaker 2: and see where he's playing live and go out and
1:20:43
Speaker 2: see him in person.
1:20:44
Speaker 3: Why'd you need to kick Bob out of the house?
1:20:47
Speaker 1: You think he's gone? He's not gone! That's the whole point!
1:20:51
Speaker 3: He's never gone!
1:20:52
Speaker 2: And while you're on his website... You can also get many,
1:20:55
Speaker 2: many of his previous live Frunk shows. No joke, there
1:20:59
Speaker 2: are a ton of them. It's been going on since
1:21:01
Speaker 2: I saw him that time, and he has a good
1:21:04
Speaker 2: portion of them available for you to download on his website.
1:21:08
Speaker 2: So yeah, go to BobSchneider.com and look for the Frunk
1:21:11
Speaker 2: tab at the top there, and you'll get many of
1:21:14
Speaker 2: these options, including the show he played that very night
1:21:17
Speaker 2: right after we spoke. In fact, that's how we're going
1:21:19
Speaker 2: to go out on this episode. I thought we'd not
1:21:22
Speaker 2: only play a newer song of his, but how about
1:21:24
Speaker 2: the live version of one that he walked out and
1:21:26
Speaker 2: played just a few short minutes after we finished talking.
1:21:30
Speaker 2: So that's what we're going to do now. We are
1:21:32
Speaker 2: going out with Katie because if we've learned anything from
1:21:35
Speaker 2: all of this, it's sometimes we need things that remind
1:21:38
Speaker 2: us it's nice to be alive. And there are many
1:21:41
Speaker 2: moments of that that I've found in Bob's songs over
1:21:44
Speaker 2: the years. And you will definitely get that in this song.
1:21:48
Speaker 2: This is Katie. from the Country Day Theater live front album.
1:21:52
Speaker 2: And with that, I will remind you, Get a Life
1:21:53
Speaker 2: will provide the soundtrack.
1:21:56
Speaker 1: Oh, Katie, Katie, Katie, now Katie, can't you see? It
1:22:00
Speaker 1: ain't here where I'm supposed to be, this place is dark.
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Speaker 8: There's nobody hanging out, I know they said there was
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Speaker 8: gonna be a house party here, but I doubt it's
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Speaker 8: gonna happen, it's a bummer.
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Speaker 6: Cause you know it's.
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Speaker 1: Nights like this when the weather's just right.
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Speaker 8: And the bugs aren't biting, all right, okay, it ain't
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Speaker 8: off when it is.
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Speaker 17: It's nice to be alive, it's nice to be alive.
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Speaker 15: .
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Speaker 20: .
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Speaker 1: Oh, Katie, Katie, Katie, come on and dance with me.
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Speaker 1: Underneath this moon hanging in the trees. Oh, cover me
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Speaker 1: in kisses till there's no more to be found.
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Speaker 7: If I try to get away, you can hold me down.
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Speaker 1: Sing me a song. Sing it slow and hold me
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Speaker 1: under me. Please don't ever let me go. All right, okay,
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Speaker 1: it ain't often when it ends. It's nice to be alive.
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Speaker 1: It's nice to be alive.
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Speaker 15: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
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Speaker 2: Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 6: Oh, kitty, kitty, you know it's so nice to see you.
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Speaker 16: You're lit up like a Christmas tree in the wind
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Speaker 16: in the middle of the night.
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Speaker 12: Like everything's okay, like everything's.
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Speaker 14: Alright I feel like you're like someone I'd never meet
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Speaker 14: But here.
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Speaker 7: We are, we're walking down the street And alright, okay,
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Speaker 7: it ain't our.
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Speaker 17: Place It's nice to be alive, it's nice to be alive.
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Speaker 16: Thank you.
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Speaker 6: Kentucky Country Day School. Coming at you. Thanks a lot.
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Speaker 16: Thanks.
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Speaker 6: That's like the first time I've ever been introduced as
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Speaker 6: a question. I'm going to insist that if I get
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Speaker 6: introduced in the future that they do that. And everybody,
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Speaker 6: please welcome Bob Schneider.
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