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Energy Harvesting, Speed Cameras And The Digital Control Grid | Bladerunner Ben Butler · Chris Thrall's Bought the T-Shirt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, friends. I'm your host, Chris Thrull. I'm a former
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  Speaker 1: Royal Marines commando. I've adventured for better and sometimes worse
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  Speaker 1: across 80 countries on all seven continents. Welcome to the
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  Speaker 1: Port Latisha podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Ben, how you doing, mate?
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  Speaker 3: Hey, how's it going? Really good to be on. Thanks
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  Speaker 3: for having me.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's always a pleasure, Ben. Always a pleasure. Just
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  Speaker 2: ironic that it was Catherine that put us in touch.
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  Speaker 2: Catherine was very proactive, you could say, during the scam vid.
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  Speaker 2: I refuse to call it the name that everyone else does.
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  Speaker 2: Just call it what it was. It was a scam.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: The next thing, she's introducing you to me via email.
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  Speaker 2: And then I see her being arrested in North Devon,
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  Speaker 2: which I know you've just done a, a tour of,
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  Speaker 2: let's say, in conjunction with taking down the ULEZ cameras.
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, just a quick, just to interject really quickly,
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  Speaker 4: the ULEZ only around London, so Greater London kind of area.
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  Speaker 4: The systems definitely interlink, but there's a nationwide link that's
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  Speaker 4: being rolled out as well, which everyone will be familiar
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  Speaker 4: with in the British Isles.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no. Very good interruption, mate. I got it
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  Speaker 2: wrong there. But we've had Matt Hardy on the show before,
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  Speaker 2: internationally known as the Blade Runner. And Matt and I,
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  Speaker 2: we have more of a sort of, you know, general
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  Speaker 2: discussion about the fact that he totally believes these are not,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 2: These are weapon systems essentially uh that are not in
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  Speaker 2: our interest and since i've been introduced to you ben
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  Speaker 2: i've been looking at your stuff and my gosh you're
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  Speaker 2: uh how can we say i don't know how much
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  Speaker 2: matt knows about the technology although you know he clearly
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  Speaker 2: knows enough to speak up about it but you are
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  Speaker 2: a guy that definitely understands this at a grassroots level
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  Speaker 2: um which obviously the police are never going to do.
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  Speaker 2: People like myself are never going to do. The public
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  Speaker 2: are never going to do. So, yes. Tell us a
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  Speaker 2: bit about yourself.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, just a quick one on that. You
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  Speaker 4: mentioned Matt Hardy or Matt Houston. And yeah, legend. He's
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  Speaker 4: really highlighted, you know, how simple this actually is, you know.
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  Speaker 4: I always like to keep things simple, even though I
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  Speaker 4: might know the more technical side of things. And the
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  Speaker 4: beautiful thing about the scenario that we're in is that
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  Speaker 4: even if you're not a scientist or experienced in this
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  Speaker 4: kind of weaponry, we have it all on a plate.
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  Speaker 4: Generally speaking, there was no public consultation for any of
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  Speaker 4: this equipment and all of it is uninsurable. 5G technology
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  Speaker 4: is not insurable by any insurer on the planet, you know,
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  Speaker 4: so you don't need to understand too much about the
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  Speaker 4: technicalities to really understand that this isn't in our best interests.
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  Speaker 4: But a little bit of a background on me. I
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  Speaker 4: studied aerospace in 2008, 2011. And I kind of always
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  Speaker 4: wondered why I was there. You know, I've always been
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  Speaker 4: a bit creative and, you know, like building things, designing
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  Speaker 4: things and.
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  Speaker 3: That kind of thing. So it fit me well.
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  Speaker 4: But when it was like weapons guidance systems and radar
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  Speaker 4: and You know, all of these kinds of topics, quite
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  Speaker 4: destructive things. Also inbuilt obsolescence. I was learning about that
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  Speaker 4: as well. And for those that don't know, that's designing products,
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  Speaker 4: which they're designed to fail shortly after the warranty period
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  Speaker 4: in order to, you know, cause more buying. All familiar
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  Speaker 4: with that these days, of course. But yeah, so that
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  Speaker 4: was my background. I never actually went into aerospace. Most
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  Speaker 4: of the interviews that I actually went to, they could
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  Speaker 4: see it in my eyes like, you know, this guy's
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  Speaker 4: a bit problem because I actually woke up a lot.
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  Speaker 3: During university, you know, seeing things.
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  Speaker 4: What this was all really about, you know, revolving door
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  Speaker 4: from weapons companies into lecturing at a university to train
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  Speaker 4: people to go and work for the weapons companies and
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  Speaker 4: so on. And, you know, once I saw those things,
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  Speaker 4: it made me near on unemployable in that area. You know, however,
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  Speaker 4: I worked in automotive engineering for some time doing computer
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  Speaker 4: aided design and manufacture, which ended up being my kind
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  Speaker 4: of speciality. As you, Mentioned just before we started, Chris,
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  Speaker 4: I ran along into a small business that I own,
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  Speaker 4: you know, designing small model kits to help kids learn
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  Speaker 4: about engineering and stuff like that. But yeah, either way,
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  Speaker 4: it was all part of my process leading me right here,
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  Speaker 4: right now. And now I realise in hindsight, it was
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  Speaker 4: all perfect and it led me to where I am now,
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  Speaker 4: being primed in a way, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about that because Ben, my degree was
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  Speaker 2: in youth and community work.
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  Speaker 3: Amazing.
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  Speaker 2: And of course, I studied that in 2003, I think
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  Speaker 2: I went to uni. And of course, it was a
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  Speaker 2: major event that happened that affected us globally in 2001,
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  Speaker 2: wasn't there?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: And I went into a lecture one day. And we
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  Speaker 2: were early to the lecture, so we were just sat
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  Speaker 2: around the table chatting with the lecturer about that nice
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  Speaker 2: sort of informal thing that can happen at uni. It
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  Speaker 2: doesn't sort of happen when you're at school. And we're
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  Speaker 2: all chatting away. And he said, has anyone seen that
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  Speaker 2: video of the Pentagon? And, of course, this was the
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  Speaker 2: early days of dial-up internet. And everyone had a, was
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  Speaker 2: it a Pentium 365 computer device? You know, you had
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  Speaker 2: to really crank it to get the thing started. And
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  Speaker 2: you got this awful screeching noise as the dial-up connected
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  Speaker 2: you to the world. And he said, yeah, there's people
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  Speaker 2: suggesting that 9-11 wasn't what we were told it was.
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  Speaker 3: Your lecturer?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is my lecturer at uni.
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  Speaker 3: Wow. Right?
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  Speaker 2: Who ironically, when I met him years later and I
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  Speaker 2: said to him, do you know what? You triggered me
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  Speaker 2: to just go on the truth journey. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: like to think I was an enlightened person before this
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  Speaker 2: because I've been through chronic drug addiction and come out
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  Speaker 2: the other side. Well, that's debatable. And he just looked
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  Speaker 2: at me deadpan and went, what? And you could see
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  Speaker 2: that even though he was the one that came up
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  Speaker 2: with this info, he couldn't take it in. So I
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  Speaker 2: went away, I watched his video and my gosh, that
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  Speaker 2: was the, like the stepping stone for me, realizing everything
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  Speaker 2: in this world is just not, not what you've been taught,
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  Speaker 2: not what you've been told. And by the end of uni,
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  Speaker 2: I was looking at, you know, what is youth work?
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  Speaker 2: It's basically, I mean, I'm simplifying this. I don't mean
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  Speaker 2: to offend anyone, but it's kind of ameliorating the effects
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  Speaker 2: of having this huge disparity in society where kids can
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  Speaker 2: grow up in a dispossessed area you know no job
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  Speaker 2: chances or whatever there's no factory i mean there's no
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  Speaker 2: dockyard here where we live anymore there's no you know
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  Speaker 2: the agriculture is all mechanicalized mechanized i think is the
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  Speaker 2: word and you know for people that are not like
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  Speaker 2: destined for uni their their um prospects in life have
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  Speaker 2: been severely uh limited and where youth work comes in
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  Speaker 2: is kind of to say look don't go and graffiti
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  Speaker 2: up your neighborhood because you're angry and nothing's working for
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  Speaker 2: you just come to a youth work club once a
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  Speaker 2: week and you know we'll provide you everything that you
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  Speaker 2: need and by the end of uni i just felt
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  Speaker 2: that this whole course was just you know what i
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  Speaker 2: would call sticking a plaster on a wooden leg And
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  Speaker 2: my fellow students would be like, Chris, we know what
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  Speaker 2: you're saying is true, but could you just shut up
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  Speaker 2: about it? Because we've tried really hard to get our degrees.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, me too. I mean, I was
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  Speaker 2: 30 when I went, you know, I was 32 or
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  Speaker 2: 33 when I went to uni. But truth has to prevail.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if you want to honour these young people
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  Speaker 2: or your children, you can't just kind of like duck
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  Speaker 2: this one because... it makes your life like a bit easier. So, yes,
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  Speaker 2: I can totally relate to that. What was your sort
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  Speaker 2: of moment of realising that, you know, there's foul play
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  Speaker 2: out there?
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  Speaker 3: Well, there's so many moments.
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  Speaker 4: I was a lot younger when 9-11 happened.
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  Speaker 3: And my funny story.
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  Speaker 4: About that is I was actually at a swimming pool
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  Speaker 4: And I went to the top of the flumes and
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  Speaker 4: there was a bloke at the top of the flumes
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  Speaker 4: and he said, have you heard about what's happened? And
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  Speaker 4: I just went, nah, and then chucked myself down the flume.
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  Speaker 4: And that was when I found out about 9-11. So
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't old enough to be woken up by it,
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  Speaker 4: so to speak. But I've always been into the occult
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  Speaker 4: for some reason. I've always been into what's not being
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  Speaker 4: said rather than what's being said and so the moment
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  Speaker 4: that you know dial up came around and I was
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  Speaker 4: able to go onto the internet and look at things
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  Speaker 4: I've always been looking into secret societies and you know
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  Speaker 4: the darker agendas that are being rolled out on the
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  Speaker 4: the humans or the men and women of the planet
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  Speaker 4: and um so again it was like a priming but
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  Speaker 4: um i would say that i was really aware during
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  Speaker 4: university that You know, all of these things, when you
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  Speaker 4: look at it from a bigger picture perspective and you
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  Speaker 4: can really see like, OK, they're teaching us this microscopically
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  Speaker 4: in a classroom.
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  Speaker 3: But what does this mean on the wider scale? I
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  Speaker 3: was aware of.
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  Speaker 4: That darkness and I was trying to bring it up,
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  Speaker 4: just like you said, with my colleagues at university and
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  Speaker 4: shut down after shut down. But then the funny thing was,
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  Speaker 4: is I had my lecturers who I could speak to,
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  Speaker 4: for example, with chemtrails. I was told about chemtrails in
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  Speaker 4: probably 2005, something like that. And when I was at uni,
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  Speaker 4: it was already kind of baked in, let's say. And
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  Speaker 4: I was always questioning things.
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  Speaker 3: So I'd go to.
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  Speaker 4: The lecturers and I'd say, you know, I've heard a
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  Speaker 4: lot about this thing.
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  Speaker 3: Is it real?
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  Speaker 4: And they're like, cloud seeding, of course, 100%. And then
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  Speaker 4: I'd say it to my friends and they'd be like,
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  Speaker 4: you've gone mad. So it's like, well, you're listening to
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  Speaker 4: the lecturers and so am I. Why are you not
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  Speaker 4: listening to me, you know? Um, so it was odd
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  Speaker 4: to see that the barriers that people put up, you know?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I think age with the old chemtrails age has
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  Speaker 2: a bit to do with it because, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 2: old enough to remember the, the drought of, I think
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  Speaker 2: it was 1976. We had to get our water from
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  Speaker 2: a tap in the street. They called it a standpipe, right?
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  Speaker 2: Cause you weren't trusted to control the water supply in
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  Speaker 2: your home. Cause you'd be watering your, you know, your
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  Speaker 2: petunias or something. or washing your, what was it back then?
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  Speaker 2: Your Morris Minor. So everyone had to go with a
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  Speaker 2: bucket and you got your water from a tap in
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  Speaker 2: the street. And the thing back then is you had
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  Speaker 2: these beautiful blue skies pretty much every summer when I
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  Speaker 2: was a kid. They were blue. They were a certain
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  Speaker 2: kind of blue. And if a plane went over, it
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  Speaker 2: would leave a bit of condensation. You knew that within,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, let's just say 20 minutes, that would
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  Speaker 2: all be gone. What we see now, and we've just
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  Speaker 2: had a long, hot summer, which I'll be eternally grateful for,
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  Speaker 2: but I've seen on the internet people trying to say, look,
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  Speaker 2: I know you think that sky's blue, but it's not
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  Speaker 2: the blue that it should be. It's like this milky,
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  Speaker 2: sort of whitey blue. And To a lot of people,
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  Speaker 2: they must just be thinking, what are you talking about?
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  Speaker 2: It's a clear blue sky. Whereas you and I will
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  Speaker 2: look at it and go, no, see that little wispy
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  Speaker 2: white bit? That was the plane that went over at
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  Speaker 2: 7 o'clock this morning. Yeah. And that weird... You know,
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  Speaker 2: if you look really closely, there's this kind of strange
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  Speaker 2: tiger pattern coming. That was the plane that went over
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  Speaker 2: at 7.05. Yeah. And so... I think for youngsters, they
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  Speaker 2: don't know what the skies used to look like. So
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  Speaker 2: they've got no reference point. And I think for the adults,
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  Speaker 2: they've been so blissfully unaware and, you know, watching their
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  Speaker 2: Strictly Come Dancing and whatever that I just think it's
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  Speaker 2: way out of their field of perception to understand.
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  Speaker 3: For sure.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's so quick for us to forget,
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  Speaker 4: isn't it? A single generation, I reckon, is all that
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  Speaker 4: they need these days because they're so... advanced in the
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  Speaker 4: psychology of man um the degradation of it let's say
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  Speaker 4: um but you know with the the chem trails thing
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  Speaker 4: i started to see it in a lot more of
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  Speaker 4: an occult way um you know obviously son and sun
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  Speaker 4: being such such similar uh names especially when we when
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  Speaker 4: we speak them and to block the sun um is
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  Speaker 4: is quite an odd thing to be doing especially at
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  Speaker 4: this time where everybody's talking of um you know, energies
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  Speaker 4: that are being projected down to us from the sun,
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  Speaker 4: you know, these solar flares and whatever.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know exactly.
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  Speaker 4: What any of that is, but it does feel like
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  Speaker 4: a very energetic time, like we're receiving a lot of
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  Speaker 4: messaging these days. And to block out the sun, you know,
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  Speaker 4: this milky haze that you see from the research that
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  Speaker 4: I've done, and I'm still prepared to say that I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 4: I listen to a lot of stuff at the moment
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  Speaker 4: that says that they're not what they think. Sorry, the
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  Speaker 4: chemtrails are not what we currently think that they are.
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  Speaker 4: So it's always a deepening subject for me. And what
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  Speaker 4: I would say is one thing that I've recognized this
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  Speaker 4: summer particularly is when I'm sitting in the garden and
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  Speaker 4: I see the shadows coming down through that milky sky,
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  Speaker 4: there's something strange with the light as well. There's something
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  Speaker 4: strange with the shadows. It seems more like an LED
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  Speaker 4: like shadow that's cast rather than a, you know, normal
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  Speaker 4: kind of diffusing, gentle light. And it's something you'd have
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  Speaker 4: to experience. I sort of look out for what I
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  Speaker 4: am saying if you haven't seen it already. But the
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  Speaker 4: only explanation I have for that is that the actual
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  Speaker 4: waveform of the light is being changed by the particles
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  Speaker 4: that are hanging around in the skies. And that would
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  Speaker 4: make sense because the sun in its normal form is
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  Speaker 4: really good for our cells, really good for our health
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  Speaker 4: and so on. And of course, you can see quite
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  Speaker 4: obviously that there's an attack on our health from so
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  Speaker 4: many angles these days. So it all does make sense,
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  Speaker 4: especially with light. You know, you see these new lampposts
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  Speaker 4: that are going up, the new car lights as well,
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  Speaker 4: all of these LEDs.
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  Speaker 3: They're completely illegal.
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  Speaker 4: It's known that they're not good for our skin cells,
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  Speaker 4: our eyes, our brains as well.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of them are actually.
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  Speaker 4: Causing eyesight issues. If you look at the NHS data,
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  Speaker 4: the eye issues have just gone through the roof in
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  Speaker 4: recent times, and it's all the rollout of this stuff.
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  Speaker 3: So it all.
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  Speaker 4: Links in together, and I've come to refer to it
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  Speaker 4: all as the weapon. There are many facets, but when
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  Speaker 4: you look into it enough, they're all doing the same thing,
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  Speaker 4: which is essentially.
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  Speaker 3: Destroying our lives, really.
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  Speaker 4: And that's kind of what brought me to having a
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  Speaker 4: line in the sand, which has been crossed, and that's
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  Speaker 4: why I'm doing what I'm doing.
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  Speaker 3: So if that makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: Makes perfect sense. I've thought long and hard about it.
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  Speaker 2: One thing we do on my show a lot is
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  Speaker 2: we decode scripture. So you've got this awesome, let's show
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  Speaker 2: my book here. In fact, I think I might have a, no,
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  Speaker 2: maybe not. Hang on a sec. I use this book.
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  Speaker 2: I recommend everybody gets into it. Anyone that hasn't watched
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  Speaker 2: John St. Julian's channel, he's a lovely friend of mine.
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  Speaker 2: This is a dictionary of scripture and myth. And what
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  Speaker 2: it does, Ben, is it decodes what is written in
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  Speaker 2: the Bible as to what it actually means in the
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  Speaker 2: esoteric sense, or you said the occult, so hidden knowledge,
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  Speaker 2: as opposed to like a three-dimensional, you know, this is
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  Speaker 2: how Jesus lived and he did this and he did that.
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  Speaker 2: And so, I mean, a silly example is like when
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  Speaker 2: you hear the word bread in scripture, they're not talking
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  Speaker 2: about people eating stuff. They're talking about spiritual sustenance coming
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  Speaker 2: from that all important spiritual connection that many of us,
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  Speaker 2: you know, have realized it's important to seek. When it
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  Speaker 2: talks about crossing water, for example, it's talking about the brain,
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  Speaker 2: the way the brain functions. which historically they categorize as earth, water, air, fire, ether.
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  Speaker 2: So it's transcending levels of consciousness. So when you get
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  Speaker 2: the Jew, for example, isn't, you know, some people that
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  Speaker 2: want to live in Israel or whatever, it means people
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  Speaker 2: that seek enlightenment. Whereas a Gentile is someone that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: believes there's nothing wrong with the sky. You're all tinfoil hats, right?
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  Speaker 2: So when the Jews cross the water, it's talking about
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  Speaker 2: transcending a level of consciousness. It's not talking about the
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  Speaker 2: Red Sea, if this makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: And one of the things I picked up from this
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  Speaker 2: is photons, packets of information encoded in light that come
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  Speaker 2: from the sun in our world. They come at an
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  Speaker 2: angle to you, which is why scripture refers to having
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  Speaker 2: this enlightenment moment. enlightening moment as seeing an angel, which
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  Speaker 2: is just an allegory for no, the information coming from
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  Speaker 2: source at an angle to, to you, to your, uh,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: hang on, let me get this right to your pineal
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: gland can then dictate to your pituitary gland, how you
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: act in life. So silly little example, you know, um,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: if you, Moses goes up on the mountain, Moses is
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: the Old Testament pineal gland. Jesus is the New Testament pineal, right?
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: So Moses goes on a mountain. Mountain is just allegory
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: for accessing a place where you can be at one
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: with what people call God, spirit, eternal energy. And it's
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: only when you go there and be quiet that this
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: information from source can come to you and then dictate
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: your actions to through your tree of life, your central
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: nervous system. So silly example, you're having problem with the booze,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: you go quiet, you go to that high place. And
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: then the answers come to you that this is not
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: a good behavior. It's costing you, it's costing your family,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: it's costing your health, et cetera, et cetera. And you go, ah, right.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: And your pituitary gland then dictates to your body, let's
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: not do that anymore. So literally instead of going down
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: the booze aisle in Tesco, you go down the healthy
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: food aisle. This is just a simplification of sort of
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: how all this works. And so when you see them
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: blocking out the light, whoa!
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: These guys go back, you know, thousands upon thousands of
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: years in their deception. And they well understand that light
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: is what we're all made up of and that it's
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: crucially important.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: So.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: That adds another angle. And the last thing I just
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: wanted to say, and sorry, we'll come back to you, Ben,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: is it doesn't even have to be the grand dissent
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: or the grand conspiracy that people make it out to be. Personally,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: I question why I see like seven aeroplanes literally at
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: the same time going over Plymouth when we're not particularly
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: on any sort of flight route. But that's another thing. Again,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: it could be something in the jet fuel business. You know,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: something as simple as a sodium-like ingredient. I know sodium
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: and metal are not a good combination, but it could
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: be something in the emissions that these planes are giving
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: that is sucking in the water from the atmosphere and
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: creating this sort of blocker. So, yes, far more to it.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: The fact that we're having this conversation, this isn't a
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: conversation that's probably taking place. You know, with many other people.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: And the beautiful thing is, I mean, it's beautiful and
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: slightly frustrating that all of this occult knowledge, the conversations
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: will never be finished.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: It's like because it's hidden. the BBC aren't going to
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: come out one day and just be like, right.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: You're all right. This is exactly what was going on.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: And then it's all settled, you know? Um, so we're
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: going to be talking about it for years. Uh, if,
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: if we don't come to the conclusion that, you know,
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: there are some things we'll never know and we can
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: get on with our lives, you know, but, um, just
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: to draw some parallels in what you were saying about, uh,
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: you know, Moses and the pineal and pituitary, um, from
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: my knowledge the hypothalamus comes into that as well it's
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: called the golden triangle the hypothalamus pituitary and pineal and
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: the hypothalamus regulates all of the glands in the body
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: so once those that information's sent there then your whole
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: body starts to regulate and then you'll find your digestive
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: system getting better that's another place where we're being attacked
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: as well another place where we have neurons as well
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: right the heart the digestive system and the head um
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: and it's definitely with this weapon the the weapon as
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: i call it it's certainly aiming at shutting down our
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: vision centers you know um which i'll get into how
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: that relates to this technology but the technology is definitely
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: just an abomination it's a It's a bad imitation of
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: all of the things that we have available when we
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: align ourselves. We don't actually need the phones. We've just
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: lost trust in our ability to communicate telepathically. We don't
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: actually need the internet and the cloud. We've just lost
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: our ability to tune into the Akashic records, as some
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: people might call it. But the information that you said,
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: you go to the top of the mountain and And
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: you essentially are given knowledge, right?
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: As long as you're aligning and listening. But yeah, just
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: to draw.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: Another couple of parallels, the teachings that I've been really
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: diving into since my dark night of the soul, where
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: I was in a drug-induced psychosis and suicidal and purposeless, basically,
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: I was picked up by the Sikh teachings and the guru,
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: you might say, And very similar, you know, to the
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: word seek is actually just a learner, somebody who wants
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: to learn essentially. And when you get into that, uh,
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: kind of mode, the lessons come, you know? And so
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: we're in this world where, because of the phones, um,
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: people aren't there, you know, they're too preoccupied to.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Really want to know more. Uh, they just want.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: To see what's on their feeds and that closes off
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: the communication. um and i saw an amazing video the
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: other day from a pastor um who he said he
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: went to ai and said you know what would you
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: do if you wanted to uh you know control humanity
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: and the ai came back and said i would give
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: them phones so they can't put their hands together.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: In prayer you know and it was like wow.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: That's incredible it makes a lot of sense so if
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: When you realize the nefarious purposes of these things, you
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: really can see past them.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: And it does become very optimistic.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: You know, a lot of people, they get caught in
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: the quagmire of, you know, being blackpilled, as I and
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: many others call it. But where it's just like you're
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: stuck in this kind of hell realm where the controllers
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: have all the power. And you're powerless. And it's like,
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: that is the weapon. You know, you've got to get
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: through that bit and be like, no, I'm the powerful one.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: I'm the author, you know, authority. Who has the authority?
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: I have it, you know.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: I'm the writer.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: And once you get there, you end up with a
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: confidence that people.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: Are scared by.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: And they either try and shoot you down with ad
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: hominem attacks and whatever, or they think that you must
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: be wrong and just sort of deluded in your confidence,
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: you know?
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this, but I climbed
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Everest in May.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Amazing. I did see, yeah.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: And I.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I'm one of these, Ben, I'm not there for the popcorn.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? I'm there to go
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: and summit. That's it.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: You didn't get a helicopter up, did you?
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: I would have made it. Believe me, that would have
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: made my life a lot easier.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: I bet.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: But no, as well as just simply the fact that
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: a positive mental attitude is going to get you way
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: further in life than being like, oh, the thing I
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: hate with our footballers. is when they're interviewed, you know,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: the England team, they're like, well, you know, if we
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: get a bit of luck, if luck's on our side,
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: you know, hope, hope for, that's like such a defeatist
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: attitude to go into anything. They should be there going, right, Argentina,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: we're going to smash them. We're going to, we, and
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: so just, just simply adopting that mindset will get you
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: so much more in life. But also I, I, you know,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: this is probably going to lose people, but I'd also
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: connected with the universe. And all the way up the
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: trek to Mount Everest, which is a 10-day trek, I
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: just found myself just touching my pineal or metaphor, you know, tokenistically,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: and just feeling that absolute peace, quiet with the universe
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: and being grateful, you know? And I said, universe, you're
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: going to let me up this mountain. In return, I'm
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: going to pay back for you. And like you said,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: it does freak people out. I had people say, how
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: can you say that? You're going to summit. What about
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: all these climbers, these respected? I was like, yeah, but
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: that's sort of like a different thing. I will summit.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Just watch me.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: I will summit. And it's not like, you know, I mean,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: there's a bit of ego in there, obviously, because, you know,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: we live in the three dimensional world. But no, it's
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: just it's just knowing life and how to how how
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: to tune into it and conduct yourself.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, it goes I could go off on so
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: many tangents with this subject. But will is like the
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: most important word for sure that you said in that sentence.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: But capital W will, which is like God's will, you know.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: And to be willing is to be confident that that's
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: what you want. It's desire, right? And it's kind of
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: a paradox in that it's not just what you want.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: It's what you feel. And when you're aligned with what
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: you feel and you have the will to undertake that action,
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: whatever it is, you are unstoppable, especially when you know
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: that there's no such thing as failure.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: It's only a lesson.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: If you didn't summit, you'd only end up back a
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: couple of pegs to safety or whatever in terms of
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: Everest and re-planning. And if your will is strong enough,
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: then you are going to summit and you're not wrong.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: So for people to see a problem in that is
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: really only their own lack of willpower. and that's why
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: it becomes easier and easier to leave people behind so
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: to speak I don't you know I do a lot
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: for for others I feel in service as well and
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: there's always this service to others in things that I
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: do but At the same time, you've got to be
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: prepared to leave people behind when you're on a mission,
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: let's say, you know, and.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Not get held back with their rhetoric, for example.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Well, yes. Anyone that spoke up for truth and freedom
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: during the scam vid knows exactly, you know, lifelong friendships
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: that just disintegrated like that. And it just left you
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: with a question. Well, let's be honest. I'd never criticize
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: a mate, certainly not publicly, certainly wouldn't try and pull
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: whatever their beliefs were. I might send them a private
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: message to say, hey, have you, but the way people
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: were so ready, people you'd known for like 20 years
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: to come on your, whatever it is, Facebook and go, well,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: you don't know, and you're like, well, dude, dude, like
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I was on holiday with you in Spain three weeks ago.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: You know, it's, it's, A big representation, I think, of
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: where people are just massively lacking spiritually because we've never
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: had any guidance and we've been brainwashed from primary school
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: into this ego body. But the other thing, the first thing,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: when you said occult knowledge or esoteric knowledge, the first
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: thing that popped in my head is the war memorials.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: They're all obelisks. And, you know, whether you want to
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: believe in this stuff or not, the history says, the
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: facts say, that these structures are putting energy up into
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: the ether, you know, into the grand scheme of things.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: And there you are with all the list of these poor,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: for the most part, young men, some of them kids,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: that believed in that freaking lie. And they went off
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: for this lot. who just manipulated the whole situation for
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: their dark gain. And you've got the names of these
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: people putting up that negative energy. I mean, there must
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: be a reason there were obelisks in ancient Egypt, Babylon,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: et cetera. And now we just, you know, we see
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: them in Washington. We see them in London. There must
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: be a reason for that. And the other thing is
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: at the Commonwealth Games in Birmingham, Do you remember the
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: satanic bull, the Baal? Yeah. And they had people running
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: around it with shards of light, which is a reference
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: to Kabbalah and the Tikum Olam, I believe it is,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: you know, this complete reconstruction of society. And what a
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: lot of people didn't know is on the head of
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: the bull was written, let me get this right, I think,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: think it was i might have this slightly wrong apologies
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: if i have but it was the victims of one
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: of the birmingham pub bombings which was allegedly by the
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: ira i say that because after 9 11 if you
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: believe official narratives that there's literally you know there's no
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: hope for you um you know we we're talking deep
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: state london here and you've got This whole audience in this,
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: you know, this amphiphia, this energy going off over what
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: essentially could be a satanic ritual, let's say, and mocking
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: these people that were the victims of it.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah, I mean, I love.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: All of that area of information is quite amazing. Obviously,
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: the Tartarian stuff and old civilizations, alternative history. But I
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: remember seeing a video that I've not been able to
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: find again since, annoyingly, but a bloke talking about monuments
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: in Ireland. I think it was Dublin and how all
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: of these different monuments, they were related to royals, of course,
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: and they had these Egyptian kind of designs to them.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: um as obelisks usually do and they all pointed back
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: to Rome and it gave me a you know the
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: first thing that came to my mind was all roads
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: lead to Rome isn't necessarily a physical thing only you
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: know obviously you can tell where that came from in
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: terms of physical roads but these energetic streams of alignments
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: of buildings, which I'm sure you've seen, you know, really
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: thought provoking stuff, but the pictures and images of like
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: a microchip next to a modern day city from above.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: And the buildings are almost like capacitors storing energy. You
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: go and go into your cell inside your office, you know,
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: or like I was in the police station in a
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: cell and you can be charged with battery in your cell.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: you know, it's insane the way that the language works.
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: But it's quite clear to me that the amphitheaters and
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: the stadiums and whatever are definitely energy capturing devices. And
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: you've even got the contracts that you sign to go
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: into gyms.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: There are actually clauses in some of these gyms that don't.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: Talk about energy, you know, that your energy will be taken,
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: you know, and you can imagine, I mean, I even
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: thought about this when I was doing my engineering degree,
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: could you create a gym where the work done by
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: the people can be stored? And what if they are
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: doing that covertly, you know, and that all of our
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: lives is essentially You know, not a spiritual energy trap
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: that you have to kind of understand on some other level,
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: but even on the physical level, you know, that we're
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: our energy, our input, you know, tax, inflation, money, the
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: fake thing that is the money system and so on.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: It becomes quite obvious. and like you said as well
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: with these obelisks and strange strange aerials so to speak
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: where we go and think about all that death of
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: the second world war and that can be transmitted over
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: to elsewhere it definitely paints this picture that the civilizations
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: like Rome are still here that you know the Greek
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: sort of columns that all seem to be ruins and
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: so on it points to that It's actually just another realm.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. I just flashed up a book cover there. Great book, folks.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: If you get a chance to read it, The Babylonian Woe.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: It talks about the inception of all this nonsense when
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: money was just a system of exchange. You know, you
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: paint my fence. If I can't paint your fence, I'll
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: give you a chicken. I can give you these cockle shells.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: And what that means is you can exchange them in
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: any area in this region, even internationally, for the same
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: unit of work, can you say. So it was just
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: a simple recognition of input. And then, of course, the
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Babylonian woe came around and went, hang on a sec,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: what if we start lending people cockle shells? And then
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: when we claw them back, they've got to, you know,
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: if we lend them 10 cockle shells, they've got to
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: pay back like 12, which we now know as interest, okay?
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: And then this system pervaded or invaded the government structures
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: and the palaces and the religious clergy, et cetera, et cetera,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: who traditionally, their job, if you're a king... Your job
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: is to look after your people. And this is a
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: great example in England at the moment. You know, the king,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: his job is to look after his people. And then
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: the Babylonian woe, the money merchants, the money lenders crept
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: in there and said, hey, king, you know, did you
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: not know that your worth is actually... relatable to the
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: amount of gold you've got in your cellar, not looking
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: after your people. And the way that you accumulate this
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: gold is through this money lending system that we've come
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: up with. And this spreads to everybody, you know, celebrities, priming,
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: everybody's going for that gold in the cellar, thinking that
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: that's going to give them a turn, you know, happiness
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: in this realm. And, um, yeah, it's, and I think
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: this Babylonian, whoa, these, these money lenders, they move with
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: the Roman empire and they're advising the, you know, the,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: the Roman senators and, and, and leaders that, oh, you know,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: you got to do it like this and let's invade
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: that country because they've got a lot of gold and dah, dah, dah, dah, dah.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: And then when they pulled back, at least this is
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: my understanding because empires never can continue. They will always
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: get to a point where the resources, they run out
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: of resources to keep up this kind of, you know,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: battlefront and control. So the empire then pulls back to Rome.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: The money lenders abscond to Venice to continue their operation,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: hence why you hear about the Venetians and the Italian
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: families and this kind of thing. But in the place
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: of this empire, they've left behind this money system. usury
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: money lending in addition they've left behind their secret societies
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: that that you know people in in in in addition
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: they've left behind a system of um what was originally
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: spirituality and they turned it into religion so rather than
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: understand the esoteric side of what this scripture is trying
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: to tell you which is emancipation set yourself free They've
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: now got people going to a building every Sunday, not
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: really knowing why they're there, but just kind of like
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: wanting more out of life and wanting to be a
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: better person and community. And I'm not saying that you
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: don't get that from religion. There's a lot of wonderful
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: things that you can get from Christianity, but I'm just
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: saying that's not what it was. So they've left behind
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: these mechanisms in place. So when they withdrew to Rome,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: it's still going on in the world today. Does that
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: make sense?
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: 100 percent.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, we all have our ways of explaining
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: it and we're all saying the same thing.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: It's amazing.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: You know, with me, I found that Mark Passio, I
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: think this is where it came from to some extent.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: But, you know, left brain, right brain.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: And they've basically, I say the big they, they've kind
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: of forced everybody into being entirely left brained. Only just
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: thinking about things in terms of physicality and what's real,
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: like what can we feel as in like touch and sense.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: When you're pinned into that mode of thinking, you know,
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: I'm from Cambridge and Cambridge University is very much a
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: part of pinning everyone into the left brain. You know,
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: you've got Stephen Hawking, everything's a big accident, you know,
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: that we're just flying through space on this ball and
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: You know, it's all just by complete chance. And we're
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: lucky to be here because it's more likely that we'd
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: all be dead, basically.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: You know, it's very, very dark, really.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: And then you look at Darwin and his theory of evolution,
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: and it's all just like all a big cosmic accident.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: And there's no creator. That's really the main message, right?
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: And so what it spawns is millions of people who
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: think that, you know, basically we're lucky to be here
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: and we need to stick together and, you know, basically
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: just make money and die. And it's very smart in
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: that sense, because, you know, what starts as a religious movement,
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: Institution that was Cambridge University monks and whatever turns into
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: them actually understanding psychology of humans that come to the
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: church and then using those mechanisms to make science, you know.
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: And that's one thing that became so obvious during COVID
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: is that you had your.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Scamvid.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Sorry, yeah. I do try and retract that every time.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: It's horrendous when I say it. Yeah, the scamdemic or COVID-19.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Ben, all it is, is I am not going to
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: just ratify what they did to us by using their
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: terminology as though it's actually a thing. I'm massive onto
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: human health. I have been for a long time and
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: I just literally knew from the start of that That's
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: not how health works. You can chuck enough poison in
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: your body, all you like. It literally has no effect
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: on nothing. What has an effect is eating a balanced
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: pH diet, which then makes you immune to all ill health. Sorry,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to chuck. I'm not lecturing you, Ben. Yeah, yeah.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: It's very hard to sum up for the public when
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: you're trying to talk about something that they all know
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: is this name. I try to put my little slant
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: on it and put the scam in there. Sorry, mate.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Please continue.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: That's fine.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: It's something that I've also done to myself. I can't
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: believe that it came out, but it also goes to
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: show how powerful the subconscious programming of.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: Their tricks are.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: Even with me, who I'm quite aware of the words
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: that are coming out of my mouth, I still make
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: those mistakes.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: So thanks for catching me.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: Apologies.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: I wasn't trying to be a dick.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: Not at all.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: It's an interesting one.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: But yeah, so during.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: The scandemic, you see that, you know, we have these altars,
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: which are the TV and we have the priests, which
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: are those in the white coats. And we have the, uh, anointment,
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: which is the vaccine and, you know, the rules, the
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: dogma and whatever. And these are the people who consider
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: themselves to be atheists who are following it, you know?
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: So there's always, this is how well they've got us
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: figured out.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: And we had the, the jokers dancing in hospitals. Yeah.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. That's it.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: And it's all just part of a big play that's
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: always playing, which is, you know, we've got a perfect
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: window of opportunity to awaken to the play and be
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: a part of it. Yet be conscious of, you know,
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: that we're the authors.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: And that's what, you know, the scandemic was actually a
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: massive gift, even though we've lost so many people or
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: so many friendships. And, you know, often we've lost people
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: to illnesses as a result of all of the damage.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: disgusting behavior um but you know that's partially what's led
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: me to do what i'm doing um which is i've
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: realized through all of these ancient texts and looking into
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: them and whatever that the war's going on regardless of
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: what you do you know you can go to the
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: hills and become a monk and completely separate yourself from
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: society and that the war's still going on. And anybody
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: that gains a certain level of enlightenment in that always
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: ends up crossing back over the river to go and
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: get the others.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: You know, we're not free until we're all free. And, um, yeah,
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: that's it.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And you, you triggered something in me then when
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: you talked about like the Richard Dawkins and the, um, uh, God,
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: his name escapes me. What, what was the guy with
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: the locked in syndrome, the What, Stephen Hawking? Stephen Hawking.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Sorry if that's not the right terminology. But what we
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: also have to remember is they all came to prominence
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: through writing a book. And when you look at, like,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: I think Barnes & Noble, their address is 33 such
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: and such street, New York. You start to see the
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: esoterics in it. And then you look at, what was
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: his name? Stephen King. who was a penniless schoolteacher who
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: wrote shite. And then one day he wrote this book
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: and he got rejections from all these companies. Then one
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: day he wrote this satanic text called Carrie about a
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: possessed school kid or whatever it was. And he's offered
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: a $ 300, 000 advance. And this was like 40, if not
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: more years ago. That's the equivalent of being offered, you know,
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: three million pounds in modern parlance. And then you've got J.K.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Rowling who struggled to write her book in the cafe
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: on the back of napkins. And no, what you did
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: is you wrote a book essentially about the occult that
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: could get into children's minds.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: And you became the biggest bestselling author ever.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: So you know let's not forget that that this cabal
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: they they own everything and you know these books that
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: become so popular um they become popular for a reason
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: is what i'm saying and then then then they become
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: a part of his you know a part of our
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: lives and our daily being and our history for.
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: Sure um And yeah, just as it comes to mind
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: and sort of to bring things towards my case a
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: little bit as well, you were saying earlier about your
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: ability during your Everest climb to ascend, not only physically,
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: but ascend whenever you needed to in mind above the
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: kind of physicality of the situation that you're in, the cold.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Ben, I had to because I had to go down
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: the mountain to hospital. With acute mountain sickness.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: I lost two, if not two and a half stone
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: in weight. When I got back on the chopper to
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: fly back up to base camp.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Folks, just so you don't get confused. I trekked up
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: to base camp the first time. Now I've got to
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: save time because this expedition is underway. So I flew
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: back in and they laughed at me. The lads that
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: weighed me in for the helicopter were all laughing because
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: I weighed less than all the females that they ever
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: checked in. That's how ill I was. And, you know,
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: even that in mind, I knew where you are in
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: your mind rules the day. Plus the fact I'd lost
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: two stone in weight. That's a lot of weight not
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: to have to carry up Everest. Do you know what
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: I mean? It's not necessarily a bad thing. But I
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: think the point I was trying to get at is
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: when I was ill in that hospital or I actually
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: went back to Kathmandu, I got messages from people. I
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: had a WhatsApp group set up and I specifically said, guys,
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: I'm going through it at the minute. I am going
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: to summit Mount Everest. So do not leave messages telling
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: me to come home because I'm, I'm focused now and
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: I don't want to read that fucking bullshit. Yo, Chris,
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: you've done so well. Come back. You know, you've got
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: nothing to put. No, I didn't do it because I
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: had anything to prove. I did it because it was
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: a childhood dream. Fifth, fifth, a 50 year dream. I thought,
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: you know, I want to give this a go and
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: I want to stand on top there. And you know
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: and I was that sorry I'm losing my train of
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: thought here but you know I was that sort of
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: focus that like I had to put up with all
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: these messages Ben coming from everyone going oh come back
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: you know come back to the UK and da da
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: da da da and yeah sorry I got a bit
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: lost there in my thinking but that's.
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: Fine Yeah, I mean, it's it's a great point.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: And like the the constant pull of the masses is
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: always there. Whenever you step onto your own path and
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: you actually start to, you know, really live the life
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: that you desire, there's always going to be a pull family, friends,
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: you know, partners, whatever. You know, this isn't the Ben
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: that I knew kind of thing, you know, come back,
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: you know, even when I stop drinking, you know. stop drinking,
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: stop doing drugs, stop partying and whatever. It's like this
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: pull of like, no, don't, you know, that's not the
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: Ben that I know. And that's what we're kind of against.
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: It's a very kind of etheric.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: Energy, you know.
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: But that focus that you had and like the realization
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: that no one needs to understand why, you know, it
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: brought me back to I did a 40 day fast
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: a couple of years ago.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: And the very same thing, right?
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: Prayer is like one of the most important things to
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: get you through such a thing. And for years, I'd,
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: you know, I'd felt this calling to do a long fast.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: And, you know, I know that it.
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: generally doesn't hurt people it doesn't kill people you know
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: well say millions thousands of people do it every year
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: you know a lot of the time with a lot
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: of healing benefits and so on but the the pull
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: that i was getting from everyone around me like no
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: you're going to die you know uh you know you're
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: just going to end yourself it's a suicide mission and
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: whatever and i'm like how do you block that out
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: and also hold your own uh focus and of course
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: it's the ascension of And the prayer, basically, because you
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: do have to be in the world as well. You
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: can't just, you know, most of us can't just lock
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: ourselves away for 40 days.
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: I've got rent to pay and so on.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: So there's an element where you have to converse with
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: others and they are going to not meaningfully, but they're
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: going to try and bring you down subconsciously. And the
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: same thing happened also in the cell when I was
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: arrested recently. You know, you've got to be in that
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: cell tuning into because we do tune into people's thoughts,
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: especially when enough people are thinking it. You know, when
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: it's the Olympic Games, for example, so many people are
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: tuned into it. It's difficult not to get that, you know,
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: even just walking down the street. And I think that's
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: where it links in with this 5G abomination, which is
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: an imitation of what we have already. You're walking down
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: the street, walking through wireless data transfer. And it's no
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: surprise that you've got so many people these days who
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: are having really violent thoughts, you know, violent imagery in
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: their brains. And, you know, they're seeing all of this
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: stuff and it's like it's the Internet. you know, we're
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: tuning into it as we're walking around. And what you
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: come to realize when you look into it is that
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: we are nodes in this network. And the network and
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: the hardware is capable of picking up on our emotions,
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: our thoughts. And because it's bi-directional, it can read and write.
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: It can't only read our thoughts and emotions, but it
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: can also write.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: Them as well.
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: So we've got to be spiritually focused to the extent
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: where we can discern what thoughts are ours and what
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: aren't but of course this is always spoken about in
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: the ancient texts as well uh in that before the
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: terminology was just demons right and i've come.
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: To feel uh through.
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: Looking into this stuff that the networks that we're building
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: are just the physical channels for the unembodied yeah it
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: gets really quite deep when you look into it and
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: um These unembodied, the demons that can influence us so much,
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: they need the network to be able to travel and communicate.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: And so this is the legion that they speak of
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: in the Bible. Right. Yeah.
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: And you can see in society, you know, the degradation
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: of people's behavior and whatnot is is so clear that
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: I would say that all of it is actually not human.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: You know, humans inherently are loving and peaceful.
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: And we've got this crazy scenario, which seems to be
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: right in parallel with the rollout of 5G technology. So, yeah,
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: that gives you a bit of an intro into where
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: I'm going with things.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: But, yeah.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes me think about the last days of Rome,
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: when I see what's going on at the moment. You know,
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: in the last days of Rome, it got ridiculous, didn't it?
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: The senators were marrying their horses. And that was... had
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: to be deemed acceptable and then you had the gladiators
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: tearing each other apart in the ring and and when
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: i look at society at the moment you've got people
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: forced to accept that like a man is a woman
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: and all this just totally unscientific reasoning that that you're
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: sort of you know you're not supposed to argue with
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: and and then um when you look at what people
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: are doing to their bodies, which is not a criticism,
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: everyone's free to do, you know, what they want with
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: their own body is not a judgment call. But I
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: remember I was on holiday recently and I was just
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: looking at all these tourists with tattoos and I couldn't
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: help but thinking, and I've got a tattoo, you know,
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: I'm ex-military and most of us have tattoos, but I
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: just couldn't help thinking, like, you've spent all that money
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: on tattoos and And they look really shit. They look
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: fucking awful. Like you're so much more beautiful if you didn't,
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: or handsome or whatever the case may be. And of
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: course it's because we've all been sold into the material self.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: You know, one more piercing is going to get me
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: this thing that I'm looking for in life. And of
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: course you and I know that you can have a
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: thousand more piercings, all that's probably going to happen. is
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: you're going to get that more upset or feel more alienated.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: And certainly when you start doing stuff to your face,
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: it's a difficult one to discuss because, like I said,
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: I don't mean to upset anybody, but it's like we've
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: been sold down the river, Ben, you know. We've been
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: told this Instagram culture of big tits and, you know,
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: whatever is just going to, like, somehow get us somewhere.
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: Something I've been talking about a lot recently, actually. But
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: as you can see, I've got like an unshorn beard, right?
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: And partially that's, you know, just being inspired by the
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: teachings of Sikhi or Sikh teachings.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: Because our bodies are like organite, if you know about.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: That stuff, you know. Absolutely.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: John St. Julian talks about this. Yeah.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: It's like an antenna, our hair.
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: And um Basically, when I started growing out my beard,
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: it was like a kind of, can you just be
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: you naturally and take the judgment of other people who
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: would otherwise shave their hair and remember that you actually
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: don't give a crap what they think, you know, especially
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: like when you're in your awakening process, you're like, okay,
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: I've got to get used to not giving a shit
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: what anyone else thinks.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: And it's like, that became my thing.
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: It was like, can I walk around obviously different to
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: everybody else, but just be like, be me. basically and
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: the thing with the face related stuff you know I'm
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: sure you've seen about the septum thing in ladies and
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: it often points to kind of unworthiness and it just
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: brings me so much compassion you know but there's a
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: really interesting thing I've been talking about recently which is
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: this new wave of rappers in America who all have
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: face tats you know it's a big thing And basically,
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: I watched a short video which created this really long
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: meditation for me, thinking about all of the rappers and
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: these face tats. And it was saying basically that in
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: the contract that, say, Sony Entertainment Records owns their image
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: for music. let's say 70 years. And so if that
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: person dies, the contract's still going. And so they've found
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: different ways of, you know, carrying on the money making.
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: So if someone dies, you know, there's all this clone
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: stuff that they talk about, but lookalikes and hologram tours,
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: you know, there was a hologram tour of Biggie and
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: Tupac a few years ago. And it's like, that's record
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: labels making money off dead people, right? And it's, this
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: thing that I watched basically said that it's a defense
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: mechanism to get a face tap, because if you get,
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: you know, unique markings all over your face that your
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: fans will recognize, if you're ever replaced, they'll see it.
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: And it also then points to Michael Jackson as well,
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: you know, he changed his whole, you know, pigmentation of
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: his skin. And it's like, If they reproduced him, you know,
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: I don't know exactly the process, but using his sperm,
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: for example, they'd get.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: A black baby and then they wouldn't be able to
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: use that image. Right.
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: So there's all these, you know, I think the whole
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: of what we've been shown is so different to what's
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: actually going on that, you know, once you get to
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: a certain threshold with this stuff you do start thinking
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: this stuff which um you know a lot of people
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: would be like wow that's speculative uh but no it
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: makes sense you know you see how much money's involved
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: and and so on so yeah it's uh It's old stuff,
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: isn't it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. The whole aim of this dark cabal, whatever we're
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: going to call it, and the people that go along
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: with this is to just keep people trapped in their
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: ego self, in the material self, and never, ever having
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: access to that spiritual component. And, you know, it works
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: and it is a thing. It is a thing. Because
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: I went to Ibiza recently. Oh, boy. did the wheels
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: start coming off the wagon within like 24 hours? And
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: suddenly you'd start becoming this person that like you just
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: never wanted to be because you've given the dark side
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: access to your psyche or your soul or whatever, and
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: it gets in there. And by that, you know, it
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: doesn't have to be a holiday in Ibiza. It could
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: be your diet or your lack of exercise or your
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: gorging on this, junk junk sort of TV and all
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: these things are you know they're all put in place
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: to keep you you know to keep you from finding
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: the light basically and that's.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: Actually what I realized during engineering as well you know
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: everything is engineered that if you look at the seven
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: deadly sins or whatever in in Siki they're known as
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: the five thieves and it's basically you know greed lust
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: ego that those kinds of things all of these things
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: food drugs which are basically the same thing anyway now, right?
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: And partying and, you know, the ego of social media,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: they're all engineered to open those doorways, which allow demons in,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: you know, that's essentially it. You know, so if you
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: become greedy, then that gives a kind of edge that
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: can be grabbed onto, you know, and opened up, if
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: So....
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: In all spiritual teachings, it's about being present as in
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: like not yearning for anything in a sense, you know,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: because when you start to yearn for these material things,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: it gives doorways and they get their crowbars in very
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: effectively and wrench those doorways open. And, you know, when
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: I was in my dark night days where I was really,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: you know, on a downward trajectory on purpose, I've made
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: the decision.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: To do that somewhere. Yeah.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: I realized I just opened up all the doors and
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: just let it let it come in. It was quite
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: an important part of my journey in that it led to,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: you know, the rock bottom, which then propelled me upwards
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: into complete purpose.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: You know, I haven't had more. I don't think I
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: could have any more purpose than where I am now.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: And that's what makes it quite difficult for the police
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: in my case as well, is the mens rea, or
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: mens rea, which is the kind of intent of the
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: mind when you undertake an action. The intention of my
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: mind when disabling 5G systems, for example, is clear and
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: it will never waver.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: I'm so strong and steadfast in.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: why I'm doing what I'm doing that they can't unravel
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: it and the police and the judicial system and whatever
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: they're They're sorcerers and their whole job is to unravel
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: your confidence and get.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: You to start to doubt.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: And then in that doubt, they can change the intent
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: behind your actions and then they can lock you up.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: So it's like you've got to really have a deep
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: knowing and knowing it's not just a belief. You know,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: I don't like the word belief, generally speaking. And what
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: I would say about that is I have strong opinions
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: weekly held, you know, so I'm very assertive with what
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. But if somebody comes with a counter argument
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: that's actually decent, I'm ready to drop it. Whereas most
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: of society has weak opinions strongly held. You know, they
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: can't hear somebody in the opposition because they're so dug
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: in on their little opinion that they can't change. And
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: I was wrong is the beginning of awakening, isn't it?
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: Ben, it sounds like you and I, we both had
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: the dark night of the soul. I talk about this
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: a lot in my channel and in my books. You know,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: I specifically remember the seminal moment when everything changed for me.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: When I went from essentially going down to ah, I
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: get it now. Well, I don't even think that there
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: was that much clarity. I just knew that this wasn't
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: the way and that only I could change it. So
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: let's try this way and You know, let's just say
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: it took me to a better place where I was
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: more equipped to deal with the negative influences in life.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Did you have a specific seminal moment where things changed?
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: And, you know, fortunately, we'll remember those moments for the
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: rest of our days.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: Like, I don't think we're all supposed to completely live
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: in that spiritual realm. And I think that there are
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: these windows, sometimes very, very short, these windows of opportunity
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: for us to see that connection, which they're so moving
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: that they stay with us forever.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: And I think that's.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: Part of the design, which is that you're having a
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: human experience. You know, you're a spirit having a human experience.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: But I'll show you this little window just to remind
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: you of where you've come from. So you can take
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: that with you for the rest of your days, you know.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: And that's what definitely happened with me. You know, I
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: drove myself down to rock bottom intentionally, really. It was like,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: you know, the purposelessness. Let's see how far we can
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: take this, you know, drug taking and whatever. Let's see
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: where it goes. You know, how bad can it get?
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: You know, I was already aware that it was making
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: my life worse, but just I'm 120% or nothing kind
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: of person. So that day where I seriously considered suicide,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: is a day that could have changed the way it changed.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: It would have changed my life either way. You're right.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: Um, but I chose to surrender. Um, you know, I
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: roamed and rambled in the 10 directions, you know, like
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: try this and that and the other and the, the
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: realisation is that I was trying, right? And they say
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: fight or flight, but they never give you the third path,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: which is surrender.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: And that's actually the ticket. That's the way out if
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: you're in those kinds of scenarios. And so I surrendered.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: I very much come from a family that renounced, especially
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: mainstream religion, but along with it, thrown out the baby
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: with the bathwater and thrown out kind of spirituality as well,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: to a great extent. And I think that was part
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: of the plan, you know, with the Catholic church being
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: so openly abusive in many cases and whatever, uh, was
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: to have people ignore their connection, uh, you know, to
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: the spiritual. And, um, So coming from this family where
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: we never really spoke about this stuff to suddenly like,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: I'm at rock bottom and I'm going to get on
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: my knees and pray because that's all there is left, right?
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: And at that very moment, it started flooding in. I
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: was taken from underneath my armpits and lifted up off
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: the floor and shown, you know, what to start doing.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: And it was through yoga and meditation, but especially breathing,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: you know, the simple things. takeaway got to take away
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: all of the complicated stuff you know the we all
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: get caught in these traps and cycles of like these
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: supplements and drugs and i take this to do this
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: and that to do that but you can't sit and
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: breathe for you know even 10 minutes each day you know.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: And uh being 120 or nothing kind of person.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: I took heed of that message, you know, that something
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: was guiding me, teaching me how to be a better person.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: And I did as I was told, you know, so
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: it's a funny thing with freedom, which freedom doesn't come
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: without rules. And in the same sense, like, you're not
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: going to get anywhere without having a teacher, you're going
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: to have to give up to something, you know, and
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: The communication that I was having from that point was
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: all about my own healing and, you know, getting back.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: To who I really am.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: And so I took heed and listened every step of
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: the way, you know, with very with a lot of
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: discipline as well, because I'd realized how low I'd got to.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: And it was like, right, if I'm going to turn
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: this round, it's got to be a proper effort, you know. Um,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: so I was, you know, for about three years, two
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: and a half hours of yoga and meditation and chanting
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: and whatever, every single morning waking up at four 50,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: I'd be on my mat by five 30, uh, cold showers, fasting,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: you know, just trying everything. And, uh, I'm pretty glad
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: to say that I'm at a point now that, uh, I'm,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: I'm stable. You know, there's still always work to do.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: And that's why I'm being careful with my words. You know,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: there's still always work to do. Modesty is, you know, important.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: Humility throughout your journey. Never say you're there because the
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: problem is. there is that there's no there there you.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: Know yeah it's an ongoing process yeah so Ben listen
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: I'm really glad our chat has gone this way mate
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: because not just has it been fascinating but this is
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: like where it's at really and this is what you
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: know everything else comes secondary to understanding these essential concepts
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: and ways of being that, uh, keep us locked, you know,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: locked into our material selves. But you came on the
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: show to talk about this technology and I don't think
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: we need to go into it in too deep a
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: depth now, otherwise we're going to be here forever. But, um,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: What's the thing then with all this tech that we
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: see appearing on the streets?
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean, I'll try and put it in
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: a nutshell, which will probably take us to the end
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: of the show, but I could talk about it for days.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: There's so much about it that is, you know, an abomination,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: completely illegal. And there's corruption about this left, right and center.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: The more the more that the authorities open their mouth,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: the more they criminalize themselves. As far as I can
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: see at the moment, as you can see in so
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: many areas. But basically, you know, we had the ULEZ,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: the the Blade Runners who really brought action to their
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: local environment.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: And seemingly it started as a.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: You know, this understanding that it was a financial weapon,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: you know, the ULEZ cameras, people that lived on those
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: outskirts of London, where it's like, okay, so I've been
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 4: living this life for 30 years, driving about, and now
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, it's going to cost me 10
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: grand extra a year, just because I live on.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: The cusp of this thing.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: And the government always seem to just sort of forget
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: about the people that they're affecting, so to speak, right.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: And so you've got some people who have mountains of
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: ULEZ fines that they're not paying. And then there's other
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: people who are going out and taking action by chopping
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: the things down because they know that they're unlawful and
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: there hasn't been any public consultation.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: And they really are legends. They're close to my heart.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: Whoever they are, anonymous or out in the open like
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: Matt Hardy, it's like they were the trailblazers.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: They said no.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: The more people say no, the easier it gets for
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: all of us.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: And anyway, during the scandemic, we all obviously... became.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: Aware of you know that 5g masks were being put
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: up overnight we never saw them being put up they
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: were just there then we see the lampposts changing to
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: these leds without any diffusers that hurt people's eyes and
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: so on all put up overnight just there and then
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: I was looking into Mark Steele's work, absolute legend in
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: the game. I don't know where he finds all the
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: time to bring out all this information. But then through that,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: doing my own research into the same things and finding
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: these radar systems. In London, there is a system called Fusion,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: which is a battlefield, you know, military developed system. And
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: it's basically a fusion of infrared radar, facial recognition, And
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: it's a target acquisition system. There's a company called, well, Siemens,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: which is attached to Unix. And basically, it all became
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: real when I started to see it on my doorstep.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: You know, they always say, you know, the enemy at
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: the gates, you know, you can... sort of put it
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: off until it's knocking on your door. And I was
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: watching the Blade Runners, listening to Mark Steele, watching the
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: 5G monopoles and towers going up. So it's clear it's happening.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: But then the moment changed when I went for a
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: walk with the dog and we cross over a crossing
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: and there's four units of radar all just facing me.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: And having done the research, knowing that radars are known
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: carcinogen by military documents dating back nearly 100.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: Years now, I was like, right, this is it. This
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: is my line in the sand.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: And so I started to look into it more and more,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: found that it's not just cancer, but it's heart attacks, strokes,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: and a plethora of other illnesses that come from pointing
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: radar at people. I mean, it's known in a military
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 4: scenario that you don't point radar at people unless on
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: the battlefield. And radar is like, really, it wins wars, right?
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: If you can get the information of where people are
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: without them knowing... you know, then you're at an advantage.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: So then radar jamming becomes the primary thing. So radar
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: and radar jamming are two really developed, you know, parts
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: of the military battlefield. And so here we are all
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: of a sudden, we've got radar pointing straight at pedestrians, cyclists, dogs, cars, everyone.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: And it is a very effective target acquisition system, which.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: Would work very well for a social credit system. Right.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: Not only can it pick up on it, they use
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: the 24 gigahertz range on these AGD systems units that
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: we will all know around our areas. Like your viewers
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: are probably privy to some of this. If you go
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 4: and look at pedestrian crossings, you'll see these little boxes
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: put on top.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: Very recent additions.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: They've got a little red light, look very inconspicuous part
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: of the idea. And they work on the 24 gigahertz frequencies.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: And what that does is it's so sensitive that it
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: can sense your skin when your heart's beating. And so
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: they're able to see your heart rate. And this is
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: one of these simple things that you don't need to
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: be too technically minded to get it. If it can
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: see your heart rate, where's that information going? You know,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: GDPR is an important set of rules in our country
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: about data protection.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: So who knows about my heart rate? Where's it going?
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: So imagine in London, you've got 10,000 junctions. Each one
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: of those junctions has, let's say, between 5 and 10
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: of these units on. That's 50 to 100,000 of these units.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: They're able to pick out about 16 targets all at
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: once each. So you've got 50 to 100,000 times 16.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: It's like 1.6 million people can be tracked at any
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: one time. You're not going to have a person on
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: a computer looking into all of this data, right? It's
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: the data centers. So everything, when you start to join
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: it all together, you see where it's going. The data
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: centers are going to be crunching all of these numbers.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: The radar can also pick up not only on your heart,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: but on Mac addresses in your phone, you know, IP
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: addresses and that kind of thing, this fusion system. You've
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 4: got facial recognition, so they can triangulate different methods of
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: identification to ensure that that target is who they're talking about.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: And what this creates is a system where everybody can
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: be identified and by their social credit, let's say, you know,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: if you're a dissident like me, it ain't looking good.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: They not only see who you are, but they'll.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 4: Link that to all of the things that you say
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 4: and all of the memes that you post and so on.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: And they create a profile on you or what's called
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: a digital twin, which is by their documentation, not me
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: making up a term.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: Right. That we all will have a digital twin going forwards.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 4: Like I mentioned earlier, it's bidirectional. So this technology doesn't
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: only send, it also receives. It doesn't only read, it writes.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 4: So if it can read your heart rate and it
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: has a capacitor in it that can pulse radar microwaves
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: at you, then it can also create arrhythmia in your.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: Heart as well.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: So radar on its own is damaging to the heart.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: But if you add in a capacitor, it doesn't need
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: to be high voltage that's basically pulsing waves at your heart,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: you can create heart attacks, you can create strokes, you
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: can create cancer and so on.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: So I just want to chip in because I don't
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: get a chance to chat this kind of stuff with
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: many people because I don't meet that many people in
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: daily life. I meet most of the people online these days.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: I think the website is Grindr folks if you're interested.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: I don't even know if that's the joke that i
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: meant it to be but um but no rick male
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: you know legend absolutely beloved comedian and actor uh in
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: in british society and then he brought out that that
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: film or at least he starred in it i think
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: it was called one by one.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: He wrote it i think.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah and it's this kind of you know people that
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: were realizing we're heading for this kind of dystopian future
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: of social control and yada, yada, yada. And there was
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: that classic scene in it where he stacked up the
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: Jenga bricks and he was trying to get it across
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: to the layman about September the 11th. And he's saying, look,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: if I take a brick out of this side and this,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: so the towers always fall to the side. And I
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: remember thinking, this is a seminal moment because let's be honest,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: which other celebrities have ever come out and talked about
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: this and Even as I sit here now racking my brain,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: I think there was Charlie Sheen back in the day,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: who now has got his Netflix special. So I would
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: say he's clearly been brought back into the ego fold.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: But no, there was nobody, just Rick Mayall there, stand alone.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: And yet he's probably, arguably... one of the most popular
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: characters in the country so if he's talking about it
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: now in a film what is to come you know
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: it can't go away and he can't shut up about
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: it simply because if he came on a podcast like
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: this he'd be like Rick tell us about you know
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: what happened on that fateful day And I genuinely believe, well,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't believe anything, but I would genuinely
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: consider that he had to be taken out the game
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: because he was just a thorn in an otherwise, what's
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: the word I'm looking for? In an otherwise seamless narrative
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: that this bullshit happened on this day. And yet the
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: most popular person in England is going, no, we don't
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: believe that bullshit. And he's like alone. Everyone else, BBC, whatever,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: they have to go along with the narrative. That's their role. Otherwise,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: they don't get a job anymore. I think he got
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: to that point where he didn't need the money or
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: the adoration or whatever. He just wanted the truth. And,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: of course, he's going out for a jog and dies
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: of a heart attack.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah. That's it. Yeah.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: And the suggestion was that he'd been subjected to some
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: type of weapon that, you know, makes your heart go splodge. Yeah.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: It's interesting to have brought him up as well.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: Cause I don't know if you've seen that, like one
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: of his last videos and it was, it's kind of
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: really paradoxical when you actually look at it, but it's
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 4: him like backstage off camera, so to speak. And, uh,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: he's smoking a cigarette and he takes it out and
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 4: he goes, uh, to the camera, he says, you there,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: the other side of the TV, destroy your television sets now.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 4: You don't know who's pulling the strings, making you see
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 4: these things, right? Something along those lines. And that was
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: like one of the last videos that he made. But
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: then it brings up this question of like, but I'm
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 4: seeing this through a screen and you're telling me to
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: not trust what's happening through the screen. And, you know,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 4: really it Eventually, it just brings you back to trusting
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 4: in your internal. You know, if you don't go within,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: you go without. And it's also a more refined version
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: of idolatry. You know, we look at these conspiracy legends
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: and we can be like, wow, you know, that that
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 4: bloke was incredible. But still, we have to be brought
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 4: back to, you know, our internal experience.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: And he definitely is remarkable.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 4: And his death certainly was either ritualistic or, let's say,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 4: a trophy, the conspiracy theorist's ultimate trophy, which is that
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 4: I was right all along, you know, to the extent
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: that they needed to X me out for it, you know.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I listened to Ade Edmondson's memoir fairly recently. I
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: don't know if it's when I was on Everest or whatever.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: And great, great book to listen to. There's a lot
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: of these memoirs. I find all these memoirs really good
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: to listen to. But when he got to, like, Rick's death,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: he just sort of, like, glossed over it. You know, well,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: we lost Rick and... And I was just left thinking, well,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: two things. Like, are you genuinely not aware that he
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: made that film and then suspiciously died fairly soon after it?
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: And two, like, where's the loyalty in this life? Because
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: if I wrote a memoir... and you, Ben, had been
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: taken out by some, you know, cabal radar system or
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: laser weapon, you'd be in there. Do you know what
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: I mean?
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: I'd be like, I met this lovely bloke called Ben. Suspiciously,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: a week later, he died while he was out jogging.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: And I would suggest it's... And I had this chat with,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: you know, a friend of mine. They're like, oh, no, no, Chris,
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: it was just his memoir about... I'm like, yeah, that's
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: easy to say. You know, that's just... like if he's
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: your mate that you work with for 20 or 30
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: years would you you'd certainly be aware of the films
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: he'd done yeah and and and yeah i'm i'm not
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: trying to suggest anything because i don't know ade edmondson
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: i know my some of my family members have met
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: him um so i'm not suggesting anything he might be
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: totally blissfully unaware but i.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 4: Think yeah the sorry sorry to interrupt but the The
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: importance with all of this weaponry in the fifth generation
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 4: battlefield that we're in, it's all about plausible deniability because
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 4: it leaves everything just down to mystery enough that the
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 4: masses generally won't believe you, you know, and that's the.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 4: The beauty of it, you know, even with the jabs,
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 4: like the narrative was that everybody who's had them is
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 4: going to die. And people's imagination was that it was
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 4: all going to happen really quickly. But, you know, the
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: illness and stuff is happening in such a way where
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: people still can't see that it's really, really not good
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 4: for them.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: And I would suggest that the same thing may be
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 4: the case with this weapon system that's come out, you know,
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 4: that AI will be advanced enough to know when public
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 4: rhetoric is reaching a point where they're onto us, right?
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: And then tone down the rate of illness or death
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: until that public sort of outrage goes.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: It makes a lot of sense when you look at
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: it that way.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 4: Or it will just be simply powerful enough to, the
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 4: plan being that it would just take a lot of
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 4: people out very quickly. um but either way it's against
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: us and that's why we need to take action simply.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: Do you think a lot of these uh are referred
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: to on my show as the medical procedures yeah because
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: i think everyone knows what we're talking about um do
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: you think they put in a good load of placebo
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: simply because if everybody and let's be honest what was
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: it like 80 of the population i think went along
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: with this You know, if 80% of the population suddenly
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: keeled over or came down with these turbos and all
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: this other stuff.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: And this is, you know, like a friend of mine
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: in the Marines, really fit guy, you know, he was
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: a nice guy. And then suddenly he had three heart
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: attacks in the space of like three days and then died.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: And I was looking at, you know, the Facebook feeds
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: and I know Facebook's not like the appropriate place to
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: necessarily bring shit up, but like not one person there went, oh,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: I hope this wasn't to do with, you know, with
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: the thing. And so I'm just wondering, do you think
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: like many of those procedures were placebo, like it's saline
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: solution or something simply because if everybody started, it would
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: be so blatantly obvious?
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it makes sense to me, you know,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 4: being of a scientific background and, you know, having been
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 4: taught how to do scientific testing, it makes sense that
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 4: you would have different cohorts.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's a very deep subject, but.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 4: If you've seen the documentary Payload, that shows, you know,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: this lipid nanoparticles, the lipids is basically just like an encapsulation.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: You know, the other time that we use that term
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 4: is where, yeah, with fats. So fat in the body
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 4: usually creates a lipid around toxins. So when you fast,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 4: your body burns through the fat and then often you'll
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 4: get toxic flushes of toxins.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. Absolutely.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 4: So that's when you have those ill days or tired
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: days when you're fasting is when you've just had a
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 4: toxic flush and you got to get it out of
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 4: you that's the whole idea um and that's not necessarily
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 4: that pleasant it also explains the flu uh every year
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 4: it's just sort of like a detoxification you know we
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 4: don't need more toxins shoved in our arms you know
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 4: anyway um What I would say is that this idea
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 4: of lipid nanoparticles is just about control. Because like you say,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 4: if everybody that had one died, then we would wake up.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: So there are several mechanisms that you can employ. One
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 4: of which is, you know, you can give some saline
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 4: and some the actual thing.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: Some could be a soft kill. Some could be a
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: hard kill.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 4: You know, you've got people that are getting heart attacks
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 4: out of nowhere. And then you've got people who are
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 4: getting autoimmune disorders, which will keep them, you know, a
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 4: customer for life. And then you've got turbo cancers and
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: things in between all of these things on there.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 3: The Pfizer documents, right? So I'm not talking speculation.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 4: But so you've got various different tests going on all
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 4: at once. But one of the main ones is, is
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 4: how does what's been, you know, administered to people link
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 4: in with the equipment that's happening or that's being rolled
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 4: out on the streets? Once again, I refer to it
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 4: as the weapon. It's not jabs and a traffic system
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 4: that's actually a weapon.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: It's both.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 4: And when you realise with the magnet testing and stuff
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 4: that people do have stable antennas in their bodies from
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 4: the lanthanides, the highly conductive and often highly magnetic substances
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 4: that have been injected into them, then you start to
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 4: realise that the network includes bodies.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: It's the internet of bodies, right?
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 4: And that's why you would point radar at people is
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 4: because Because up until very recently, the internet was a
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 4: different thing. So the internet was its network and we
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 4: just sort of integrated. with it whenever we sat at
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 4: a computer. But now we're within it. You know, the
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 4: radar is facing us because it's taking our data, creating
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 4: this digital twin and putting us inside it. And so
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 4: I would say that the jabs were a definite prerequisite
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 4: because in many cases, and not all because there were
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 4: saline solutions, I'm sure, but it gave the internal substrate
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 4: through which the network interfaces.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: And that's also to be said for the chemtrails as well.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 4: And just to bring it way back full circle to
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 4: when we started talking about chemtrails at the beginning, I
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 4: did a video two years ago scraping a Velux window
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 4: of my house, of the house that I'm living in.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 3: And I scraped the window.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 4: And as I'm scraping it, the material that I'm scraping
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 4: looks ferrous.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: But it was obviously a test. I took a neodymium
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: magnet and.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 4: All of the dirt was in inverted commas, that I
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 4: scraped off this window, every bit of it stuck to
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 4: the magnet. It wasn't just part of it and it
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 4: left dirt behind. It was like the whole thing. And
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 4: I posted it two years ago on my little Telegram channel.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 4: And recently, I don't know how it ended up in
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 4: his hands, but I forget his name now.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 3: Jeez, it will come to me anyway. An MP posted
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: a That video.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: Andrew Bridgen.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: Bridgen. There we go. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 4: So he posted that video. And, you know, the Internet's amazing.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 4: Things just end up doing the rounds somehow and whatever.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 4: But a friend messaged me and goes, your videos on
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 4: Andrew Bridgen's Twitter. I'm like, what on earth's going on?
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: and uh yeah it was basically you know that there's
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: metallic particles uh everywhere we're breathing them in constantly and
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 4: to me yes they're going to be carcinogenic yes they're
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 4: not going to be good for the body and the
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 4: health but knowing that we are electromagnetic beings uh and
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 4: that there's this electromagnetic system which is you know trying
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 4: to suck us in to this uh black hole black
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: cube you know data center thing uh it became quite
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 4: obvious it explains everything you know the deeper you go
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 4: into this stuff the more obvious the weapon becomes you know.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah it's like it's like they want this holographic holistic
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: kind of control network where people actually become a part
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: of of this grid and Totally understandable, totally controllable. I
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: saw your video and the first thing I did is
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: I got my credit card and I went out to
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: my car and I scraped the windscreen and I came
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: back with all these black particles, which actually looked like
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: the iron filings that you had on a minuscule sort
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: of level. And then I've got these magnets because I've
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: got a whiteboard over here that you can stick stuff
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: to with these. What are they called? Iridium magnets?
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: Neodymium.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's those ones. And I'm thinking this
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: is not going to work. This is some internet. And
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: lo and behold, it picked them all up.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: And then I went on a website and it did
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: say 100% transparency here. that it's to do with the
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: catalytic converters in cars. This is where I withdraw from
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: this point of reasoning because I was like, I don't
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: necessarily believe that. On the other hand, you don't always
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: want to be a tinfoil hat.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: Either way, it's engineered, right?
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: Either way, it's not healthy.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the thing is, I'll put my neck out
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  Speaker 4: for you. It's not catalytic converters. You know, they're trying
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  Speaker 4: to get rid of cars. And that's what most of
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  Speaker 4: this traffic system is actually about, right? They're shutting down,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, my city of Cambridge, there's basically a lobbying
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  Speaker 4: group called Cam Cycle, who basically it's their mission to
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  Speaker 4: turn the whole city into a pedestrianized zone. And they're
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  Speaker 4: closing down major roads that go over, you know, bridges. And,
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  Speaker 4: you know, if you're a military man, you know about
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 4: closing down bridges, right? You know, that's it's old school tactics, right,
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  Speaker 4: to restrict people's.
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  Speaker 3: Movement and control scenarios.
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  Speaker 4: And there are three bridges which you used to be
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  Speaker 4: able to cross over in your car over the railway bridge.
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  Speaker 4: They've closed the middle one, which has forced all the
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  Speaker 4: traffic to the other two. At least one of them
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  Speaker 4: is usually under construction. So the whole city with one
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  Speaker 4: fairly simple movement has been shut down for cars, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Huge queues.
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  Speaker 4: It's been not so bad really since, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: in the last year or so, but either way, putting
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  Speaker 4: in all of this infrastructure has been closing down roads.
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  Speaker 4: It's an attack on cars because, you know, essentially the
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  Speaker 4: whole green agenda has been found to be essentially based in, uh, eugenics,
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  Speaker 4: you know, uh, the whole net zero thing. It's so anti-human, um,
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  Speaker 4: because we are the carbon that they wish to stop,
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  Speaker 4: you know? And I think it's actually got to the
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  Speaker 4: point where we have enough evidence to start arresting the officials,
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  Speaker 4: the government officials.
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  Speaker 3: Who are pushing this narrative, you know?
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  Speaker 4: And I actually had a conversation with the detective in
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  Speaker 4: my case only the other day where I said, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you're not looking into the crimes that I'm bringing to
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 4: the table. You're investigating me and nothing of the weapons
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  Speaker 4: which I've given you plentiful evidence for. So at what
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  Speaker 4: point when the police aren't doing their job, do we
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  Speaker 4: get together and start making arrests? And we'll just pass
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  Speaker 4: you the bundles of information and we'll pass you the
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  Speaker 4: government officials, you know. And he didn't want to answer
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 4: that question, of course. But I think it's getting there.
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  Speaker 4: You know, like those of us that see this, it's
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 4: not just a belief system. This is real stuff. And
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  Speaker 4: I've got all the documents to prove it from their mouths.
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  Speaker 3: Not mine, you know?
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 4: And so regarding, you know, very diplomatic how you put it,
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 4: it pays to say, I don't know. You know, it
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 4: could be that it's catalytic converters and so on. But
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 4: the truth is, it's there. And whether it's catalytic converters
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 4: or aircraft, you would have thought we're technologically advanced enough
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 4: to engineer that not happening.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. And also, I should give this book
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: a shout out This is from my wonderful friend, Mike McCarthy,
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: who's former elite forces served in the Falklands. He's now
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: on a mission for truth. He's going to be on
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: the show very shortly, folks, again. But he said, Chris,
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: you've got to read this book, Blip. Now, for all
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: you readers out there, you don't actually have to read
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: it because you can see the front cover. And what
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: it's essentially saying is here was three million years ago.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: Here was 1750, the inception, I guess, of the Industrial Revolution.
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  Speaker 2: And that is how much of the world's resources are
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: being used. And in 2050, there won't be any more, right?
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: And what I think is possibly happening here is these
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: satanic parasites aren't stupid. They know that to sustain a
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: global population of I don't know, what do they call us?
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: Useless eaters, you know, the great unwashed. It's going to
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: use up all the world's resources. You know, at the moment,
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: you've got people putting photos on their Facebook using AI
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: of someone that's, you know, fairly obscure, which is fine.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: That's a great place to be. But suddenly they want
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: to be a hero by putting themselves on Facebook. I
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: don't know, you know, skydiving or... from 80,000 feet with
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: six blonde chicks beside them. Apologies for the use of
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: the word chicks, girls, but you get what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, dude, do you know the damage that
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: these centers are causing? These data centers, they're destroying communities.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: They use a huge amount of resources to to power them,
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: the pollution that must come out of them. And you're
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: solely using that to put a shit picture on Facebook.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: You don't know where the future's heading, do you? And
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: I think on that line, with respect to the book Blip,
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: I wonder if these parasitic, I hesitate to use the
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: word controllers, but we know the dark ones... whether they're
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: just thinking, look, it's all coming to an end, these
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: natural resources. There's only so much lithium we can invade
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: Afghanistan for. There's only so much cobalt or whatever we
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: can exploit five-year-old kids in the Congo for or wherever
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: it might be. It's finite. It's not infinite. And there
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: will come a time where It's not that these resources
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: aren't in the planet. It's the fact that the resources
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: needed to extract it far outweigh our capability. It just
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: becomes unproductive. So, yeah, I think that is a reason
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: alone why... if you wanted to have your cushy cabal
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: living on the planet you know epstein style or whatever
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  Speaker 2: that you don't want like masses of great unwashed you
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: you need you're gonna have to start getting rid of
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: them you know and what better way to do it
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: through a health that actually isn't a health solution. It's
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: not just the complete opposite, but it might even have
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: ramifications for your offspring and generations to come.
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  Speaker 3: For sure.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, there's a document. It may be the
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 4: lockstep document. I can't remember exactly the one, but it
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 4: was Rockefeller either. Yeah, it was definitely Rockefeller. And basically
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 4: it said, we will... Make them sick through many means.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 4: And when they come to us and our institutions for
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 4: health and remedy, we will make them sicker again.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 3: And, you know, it was just showing the level of disdain. Right.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 4: And the beautiful thing is I love to to kind
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 4: of end on on positives with this stuff. The beautiful
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 4: thing is, is that they've messed up their their game.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 4: You know, we've become wise to it too quickly for them.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 4: And we are beings of light that have control of
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 4: our environment.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 3: And we've figured that out as well.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 4: You know, the magic spells aren't working on us as
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 4: easily because of podcasts and our use of the Internet
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 4: and their tools. And so when I say that the
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 4: networks are actually just, you know, networks or channels for
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 4: demons to roam, That is partially true, but it's also
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 4: up to us to fill it with light, you know,
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 4: and that's why I love, you know, people like yourself who,
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 4: you know, it's hard work putting on a podcast and,
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 4: you know, the quagmire you have to go through of
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 4: not having followers at the beginning. And most people don't
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 4: make it through that, you know, but. it's bringing light
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 4: into these channels, into the network. And it's flipping the
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 4: script and flipping the tables. And, you know, it's noble stuff. So,
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 4: but yeah, I would say. It really comes down to
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 4: a fundamental difference in being, in the reason of being.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 4: And these eugenicists, I feel that their end goal is
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 4: that heaven on earth is to have no consciousness whatsoever,
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 4: you know, just to eradicate all of it. And we'll
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 4: just be in this black, dead, you know, realm where
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 4: nothing's happening. And those of us who have really woken
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 4: up to the fact that we are light and that we're,
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 4: you know, able to create heaven in this place, we
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 4: realize that it's the opposite, you know, to bring more
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 4: consciousness and more light and whatever is really the end goal.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 4: And these seemingly opposing dualistic forces actually don't exist because
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 4: darkness is just the absence of light, you know. And
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 4: so it seems like there's two things fighting against each other.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 4: But the more conscious we become, the more it disappears.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 4: And I think that's what they're throwing all of their
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 4: toys out of the pram for currently. You know, what
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 4: what is seen as global issues, which, you know, humanity
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 4: seems to be at a very low point when you
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 4: look at it in this Cambridge University. You know, we're
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 4: all in a big accident thing is actually just the
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 4: dark forces having a tantrum because they're realizing that they've
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 4: lost control. And that's the ultimate kind of optimistic conclusion
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 4: to what's happening.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 3: So it's also a kind of call to action. You know,
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 3: the ship's on the way down.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 4: We might as well help it on its way, you know.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Ben, there was so much stuff we were going to
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: talk about. I totally get that. I think if we
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: go on too long, people are going to look at
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: this video and go, I haven't got three hours to
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: watch a video, Chris. Sorry, I'll give this a miss.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: And that's a shame. So I suggest we bring it
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: to an end here. But this is the conversation I've
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 2: been looking forward to for so long. There's very few
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: people you can chat with on this topic. I don't
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: want to say on this level, but like with this understanding.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: So please come back on the show, Ben. What about
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: this tour of the UK that I've seen? Did you
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: want to mention that?
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 4: So basically, interestingly, the second arrest that I had, the
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 4: detective who was in charge of the case said, can
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 4: you please find some other way of raising awareness instead
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 4: of destroying all of this equipment?
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 3: I'm like, what, the weapons? And he said, yeah.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 4: So can you go out with this curfew and find
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 4: some other way of raising awareness? So I said, all right, well,
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 4: The curfew I'm going to ignore. I'm going to go
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 4: and do a national tour just to teach people how
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 4: to take action for themselves. Because obviously there's only me
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 4: and a few others. We can't do the whole country.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 4: So teach people locally. And so we've been in the
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 4: southwest and Wales recently. And we're going out for another
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 4: couple of weeks of tour. Over the coming days, we're
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 4: going to be in, well, basically the Midlands and the South,
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 4: Sussex and around that area. If you want to organise
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 4: a talk or if you want to find out where
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 4: they are, come into my Telegram group.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 3: It's probably the easiest way to get into contact. It's t.me.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 4: Forward slash trust the silence. So not trust the science,
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 4: but the silence.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: We'll put a link for that below this video, Ben,
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 2: and also for your YouTube, because dude, you deserve way more.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: I know how difficult it is in this game, but
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: you know, more people need to hear that. And I'm
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: sure there'd be, they'd welcome knowing how to access your,
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: your understanding and your knowledge. So we'll put that link,
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 2: that link below.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 3: Perfect. Amazing.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 4: And yeah, um, Big respect to my filmmaker friend, Chris Paradox,
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 4: who made all of my YouTube videos. We had a
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 4: chat shortly after my arrest and we both realised mid-conversation,
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 4: this is why we know each other. You're a video
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 4: maker and I've just done what I've done and created
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 4: a few of the videos which.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 3: I think you've seen. Awesome. Thank you so much for
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 3: having me on.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: Mate, pleasure's all mine. Let's just say a quick mention
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: to Catherine. our mutual acquaintance who hooked us up, who
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: I know has been going through her own battles because
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: I believe she was just arrested. Yeah. You know, she's
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: coming up for her 80s now. I hope she doesn't
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: mind me saying that. And her husband, likewise, some age
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: around that age.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 3: She's 65. He's 75.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 2: Okay. Yes. I knew one of them was, you know,
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: a certain age where you'd expect more respect than being
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: dragged away by the... Absolutely. But thanks, Catherine, for hooking
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: us up. Ben, welcome on the show anytime, mate. In fact,
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: that's an invitation. I can't wait to pick this up again.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: Keep doing what you're doing, along with everybody else out there. Friends,
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: we'll put Ben's links below. Can I just ask you,
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: because I have to do this, like and subscribe. Literally,
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: I think something like 83% of people that watch this
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: channel aren't subscribed. So you're not getting updated on what
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: we're talking about, you know, whatever it might be. So
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: if you can like and subscribe, that would be awesome.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: And that's it. Ben, massive thank you again. Stay on
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: the line just so I can thank you properly. I'm
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 2: just going to play us out here. Go steady, folks.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: Don't believe the hype. Much love.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: Thank you.