Latest / Crime and Horror / Top 3 IMPOSSIBLE places people were found Missing 411 (Part 19)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Every year, hundreds of people go missing under baffling conditions
- 0:03Speaker 1: inside the woods of North America. I'm talking about people
- 0:06Speaker 1: being right in front of someone and then in a
- 0:08Speaker 1: second they're gone and they're never found again, or somebody
- 0:11Speaker 1: goes missing and then they're found again, but in a
- 0:14Speaker 1: location that's impossible to get to. One former police detective
- 0:17Speaker 1: named David Plaitis has investigated thousands of these strange disappearances,
- 0:21Speaker 1: and he documents what he finds in his incredible book
- 0:24Speaker 1: series called Missing four one one. Today we're going to
- 0:26Speaker 1: look at three of his cases that even amongst strange disappearances,
- 0:30Speaker 1: these stand out as particularly bizarre.
- 0:33Speaker 2: But before we get into.
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- 1:15Speaker 1: In the evening hours of January twelfth, twenty sixteen, eighteen
- 1:18Speaker 1: year old Dylan Parker was attending a party in his hometown.
- 1:21Speaker 2: Of Osborne, Idaho.
- 1:22Speaker 1: Towards the end of the night, Dylan decided he wanted
- 1:24Speaker 1: to leave the party, but it was snowing and cold outside,
- 1:27Speaker 1: so he called his mom and he asked her if
- 1:29Speaker 1: she would come pick him up at the gas station
- 1:31Speaker 1: just down the road from the house he was at.
- 1:33Speaker 1: His mother would say it was obvious Dylan had been
- 1:35Speaker 1: drinking because he was slurring his words, but at the time,
- 1:38Speaker 1: even though she was upset about it because he was underage,
- 1:41Speaker 1: she thought, you know what, it's cold, it's snowing. I
- 1:43Speaker 1: just want to get my kid home safe and we'll
- 1:45Speaker 1: deal with this tomorrow. So she agreed to pick him up.
- 1:47Speaker 1: She hopped in the car and began driving to this
- 1:49Speaker 1: gas station, and as she's driving, she gets another call.
- 1:52Speaker 2: From her son.
- 1:53Speaker 1: This time he sounds totally panicked and scared, and he's asking.
- 1:56Speaker 2: His mom, you know where are you? Where are you?
- 1:58Speaker 1: Mom, and she's telling him to be there in a minute.
- 2:00Speaker 2: I'm just down the road. Calm down, I'll be there
- 2:02Speaker 2: in a minute. And then he hung up.
- 2:04Speaker 1: When she got to the gas station, he wasn't there.
- 2:07Speaker 1: When she tried calling him back, his phone was off.
- 2:09Speaker 1: She got out of the car and went into the
- 2:11Speaker 1: gas station and asked if they had seen her son,
- 2:13Speaker 1: and they said they hadn't. She got back in the
- 2:15Speaker 1: car and she drove around for about thirty minutes yelling
- 2:18Speaker 1: for her son, but there was no sign of him.
- 2:20Speaker 2: She still couldn't get in touch with him.
- 2:21Speaker 1: His phone was still off, and she just had this
- 2:23Speaker 1: bad feeling that something had happened to him, so she
- 2:25Speaker 1: called the police. The police conducted a thorough search that
- 2:28Speaker 1: started with the house Dylan had been at for this party.
- 2:31Speaker 1: They interviewed the people who were there and everybody said
- 2:33Speaker 1: Dylan seemed fine and he just left.
- 2:35Speaker 2: He said he was getting picked up by his mom.
- 2:37Speaker 1: But as they looked around town, they just could not
- 2:39Speaker 1: find any sign of him. Ten days later, Dylan's body
- 2:42Speaker 1: was found in an area nobody was searching. In fact,
- 2:44Speaker 1: he was found by accident by two people that crashed
- 2:47Speaker 1: their ATVs in the middle of the night and then
- 2:49Speaker 1: went back in the daytime the next day to retrieve
- 2:51Speaker 1: their ATVs, and that's when they found Dylan's body. He
- 2:54Speaker 1: was located outside of town, high up a hill in
- 2:57Speaker 1: a dense forest, which in order to get there, he
- 3:00Speaker 1: would have had to walk the opposite direction of the
- 3:02Speaker 1: gas station. Now, toxicology reports showed Dylan had been under
- 3:05Speaker 1: the influence of alcohol, but this was his hometown.
- 3:08Speaker 2: He certainly knew where the.
- 3:10Speaker 1: Gas station was, and he would have known he was
- 3:12Speaker 1: walking in the complete wrong direction, especially when you consider
- 3:16Speaker 1: walking towards the gas station was like walking towards the
- 3:18Speaker 1: center of town. There was lots of lights, lots of
- 3:21Speaker 1: indication you're going in the right direction. To walk in
- 3:24Speaker 1: the other direction towards that hill where he was found
- 3:27Speaker 1: would have been like walking towards darkness, where there's no lights,
- 3:30Speaker 1: there's no sign of town.
- 3:31Speaker 2: It's obviously the wrong direction.
- 3:33Speaker 1: But the case gets even stranger because on the day
- 3:35Speaker 1: Dylan went missing, there was a lot of snow on
- 3:37Speaker 1: the ground, which meant people would have made tracks, and
- 3:40Speaker 1: from the time Dylan went missing until he was found,
- 3:43Speaker 1: it didn't snow and the temperature did not heat up
- 3:45Speaker 1: enough to melt the snow, so in theory, any tracks
- 3:49Speaker 1: Dylan would have made, they would still be there when
- 3:51Speaker 1: he was found.
- 3:52Speaker 2: But where Dylan was found, there.
- 3:54Speaker 1: Were no tracks anywhere near him, no footprints, no tire tracks, nothing.
- 3:58Speaker 1: It was as if someone had him out of the sky.
- 4:01Speaker 1: Another strange element of this case is Dylan was found
- 4:04Speaker 1: without pants and without boots on, and so you would
- 4:07Speaker 1: think for him to make it all the way up
- 4:08Speaker 1: to this spot on the hillside through kind of rough, rocky,
- 4:12Speaker 1: snowy terrain through a forest that you would expect his
- 4:15Speaker 1: socks to be totally ruined and his feet to potentially
- 4:18Speaker 1: be cut up. But his socks were clean and his
- 4:21Speaker 1: feet were uninjured. This led investigators to believe Dylan must
- 4:24Speaker 1: have somehow made his way to that spot on the
- 4:27Speaker 1: hillside in that forest without leaving any tracks, and then
- 4:30Speaker 1: once he was there, he removed his pants and his boots,
- 4:33Speaker 1: except dozens of police officers and sniffer dogs were never
- 4:36Speaker 1: able to find those pants and boots, despite the fact
- 4:39Speaker 1: they should, in theory, be in that immediate area where.
- 4:42Speaker 2: He took them off.
- 4:43Speaker 1: While he determined Dylan's cause of death to be hypothermia,
- 4:47Speaker 1: the deputy coroner, David Roos, was convinced there was something
- 4:50Speaker 1: off about this case.
- 4:51Speaker 2: After local authorities came.
- 4:53Speaker 1: Out and said Dylan's death was an accident, David became
- 4:56Speaker 1: very vocal in the media saying he disagreed and he
- 4:59Speaker 1: thought Dylan had been attacked. But the county never reinvestigated
- 5:02Speaker 1: Dylan's case, and in fact, they went on to fire
- 5:04Speaker 1: David Bruce, the coroner, saying he was no longer qualified
- 5:08Speaker 1: to do the job. David says they fired him to
- 5:10Speaker 1: keep him quiet. As a result, we.
- 5:12Speaker 2: May never know the truth about what happened to Dylan.
- 5:18Speaker 1: Dustin'sself was born and raised in Piedmont, Oklahoma, which is
- 5:21Speaker 1: a small community just northwest of Oklahoma City. Growing up,
- 5:25Speaker 1: Dustin had always been kind of a mediocre performer with
- 5:28Speaker 1: SOSO grades, didn't take things too seriously. But in his
- 5:31Speaker 1: senior year he discovered weightlifting and it seemed to give
- 5:34Speaker 1: his life a much needed sense of purpose and it
- 5:36Speaker 1: really kind of helped him organize all aspects of his life.
- 5:39Speaker 1: So by the time he was graduating, he was not
- 5:41Speaker 1: only in great physical shape, he had also managed to
- 5:44Speaker 1: raise all of his grades up significantly, and he seemed
- 5:46Speaker 1: to be on a path to success. But interestingly, after
- 5:49Speaker 1: high school, he didn't pursue higher education, he didn't go
- 5:52Speaker 1: get a job, he didn't try to spend more time
- 5:55Speaker 1: with friends and family. Instead, he decided he wanted to
- 5:58Speaker 1: go live in the wild. Family believes this was due
- 6:01Speaker 1: to his obsession with the Hollywood film Into the Wild,
- 6:04Speaker 1: which is about the true story of Christopher McCandless, who
- 6:07Speaker 1: gives up a promising career to go live off in
- 6:10Speaker 1: the wilds of Alaska. Christopher would ultimately die in the
- 6:13Speaker 1: wilds of Alaska after eating a poisonous plant, or some
- 6:16Speaker 1: say he died from starvation. So about a year after
- 6:19Speaker 1: Dustin's high school graduation, he was nineteen years old. It
- 6:21Speaker 1: was March of twenty thirteen. He finally felt like he
- 6:25Speaker 1: was ready to go live out the stream of living
- 6:27Speaker 1: in the wild, and so he told his family he
- 6:29Speaker 1: was going to go on this cross country road trip,
- 6:31Speaker 1: stopping at different points along the way, living out in
- 6:34Speaker 1: the woods. His family knew he was really fixated on
- 6:37Speaker 1: this and couldn't talk him out of it, and so
- 6:39Speaker 1: they ultimately accepted it and said just be really careful.
- 6:42Speaker 1: So in early March, Dustin heads out on this road trip,
- 6:44Speaker 1: and nobody hears from him until March fifteenth, when he
- 6:47Speaker 1: calls his parents and says, I'm in this tiny town
- 6:49Speaker 1: called Fields, Oregon, and I'm at a gas station. Everything's
- 6:52Speaker 1: going great, nothing to worry about. The very next day,
- 6:55Speaker 1: Dustin called his ex girlfriend and told her he was
- 6:58Speaker 1: lost on a mountain.
- 6:59Speaker 2: And ex girlfriend said she couldn't.
- 7:01Speaker 1: Really understand what he was saying, and she was actually
- 7:03Speaker 1: at the airport about to board a plane, so it
- 7:05Speaker 1: was noisy, and she stepped into a bathroom to hear
- 7:07Speaker 1: him more clearly. But even as she's hearing him, what
- 7:11Speaker 1: he was saying just wasn't making any sense. He was
- 7:13Speaker 1: talking about this mountain he was lost on, and he
- 7:16Speaker 1: was referencing that there were people that were after him,
- 7:18Speaker 1: and it was just very confusing, and before she could
- 7:20Speaker 1: get any more clarifying information from Dustin, he hung up,
- 7:23Speaker 1: and then she couldn't get back in touch with him.
- 7:25Speaker 1: So she calls Dustin's father and she tells him that
- 7:27Speaker 1: she had this really weird conversation with Dustin or he
- 7:30Speaker 1: said he's lost on this mountain, and even though I
- 7:32Speaker 1: didn't really understand what he was telling me, he sounded
- 7:35Speaker 1: really really scared. Dustin's father thanked her and then spent
- 7:38Speaker 1: the rest of the day trying to get in touch
- 7:40Speaker 1: with the son, but every time he called, it just
- 7:42Speaker 1: went straight to voicemail. The next day, when he still
- 7:45Speaker 1: hadn't heard from his son, he called the police. The
- 7:47Speaker 1: police did not have a great idea of where to
- 7:49Speaker 1: start looking for him, because Dustin did not specify to
- 7:52Speaker 1: his ex girlfriend what mountain he was actually lost on.
- 7:55Speaker 1: All they had was his last known location, which was
- 7:58Speaker 1: that gas station in Field, Oregon.
- 8:00Speaker 2: So they went to.
- 8:01Speaker 1: That gas station and he wasn't there, and they asked
- 8:04Speaker 1: the people that worked there if they remember Dustin, and
- 8:06Speaker 1: they didn't, and no one knew anything about him. And
- 8:08Speaker 1: so after that they just had to wait for more
- 8:10Speaker 1: leeds to come in because they couldn't just, you know,
- 8:12Speaker 1: search all the mountains in Oregon for Dustin. They would
- 8:14Speaker 1: never find him. A month later, after no one's heard
- 8:17Speaker 1: from Dustin, a ranch hand who was living in a
- 8:19Speaker 1: very rural section of Oregon not far from the gas
- 8:22Speaker 1: station and Fields, Oregon, discovered Dustin's truck parked precariously on
- 8:26Speaker 1: the edge of this road, inside of a canyon. It
- 8:28Speaker 1: was abandoned, but inside where Dustin's GPS, some food and
- 8:32Speaker 1: some energy drinks. His backpack that contained his sleeping bag,
- 8:35Speaker 1: and his tent were missing.
- 8:37Speaker 2: There was a comprehensive search done.
- 8:38Speaker 1: Around where the truck had been found, but after a
- 8:40Speaker 1: couple of days nothing had been found and the search
- 8:43Speaker 1: was terminated. The area around where Dustin's truck was found
- 8:46Speaker 1: was very hilly and rocky, but there weren't that many trees,
- 8:49Speaker 1: which meant if you were standing on one of the
- 8:51Speaker 1: different mountains in the area, you'd be able to very
- 8:54Speaker 1: easily look out and actually see a road. And so
- 8:57Speaker 1: the searchers were thinking to themselves, how could this guy
- 8:59Speaker 1: have gotten lost on any of these mountains, because all
- 9:02Speaker 1: he'd have to do is look over there, and there's
- 9:04Speaker 1: a road, and therefore there's help. Six months later, a
- 9:07Speaker 1: hunter was up in those mountains near where Dustin's truck
- 9:10Speaker 1: was found, and he was actually moving through one of
- 9:12Speaker 1: these small sections of aspen trees, and as he was
- 9:15Speaker 1: walking through, he thought he saw a deer, and he
- 9:17Speaker 1: was kind of stalking through these trees and he gets
- 9:20Speaker 1: to an opening where he looks down and he stops
- 9:22Speaker 1: because underneath the bush is an obviously dead man, not
- 9:25Speaker 1: wearing any clothes, who's on his hands and knees, and
- 9:27Speaker 1: it looks like his head is stuck in the ground.
- 9:30Speaker 1: When the hunter walks over to get a better look,
- 9:32Speaker 1: it looks like this guy must have pushed his head
- 9:35Speaker 1: into a hole in the ground before he succumbed to
- 9:37Speaker 1: whatever killed him.
- 9:38Speaker 2: The hunter leaves and tells police. Police show up.
- 9:40Speaker 1: They search the area and they find a jacket nearby,
- 9:43Speaker 1: inside of which is a wallet that contains Dustin's ID
- 9:46Speaker 1: cards as well as Dustin's car keys.
- 9:48Speaker 2: The body was Dustin's.
- 9:50Speaker 1: Dustin was located nine miles away from where his truck
- 9:52Speaker 1: had been parked on that road, and nowhere in the
- 9:55Speaker 1: area did they find a campsite. They actually never found
- 9:58Speaker 1: his backpack that contained the tent or the sleeping bag,
- 10:01Speaker 1: so they think he never set up camp, but they
- 10:03Speaker 1: don't know where his supplies went. After Dustin's family found
- 10:06Speaker 1: out what happened to him, his father would say, I
- 10:08Speaker 1: just don't understand why he didn't seek shelter in his vehicle.
- 10:12Speaker 1: It was parked on the road. He wasn't that far away. Heck,
- 10:14Speaker 1: he could have run those nine miles. He was in
- 10:16Speaker 1: great physical shape and in theory he would have known
- 10:19Speaker 1: where he parked it, or if he didn't, he could
- 10:21Speaker 1: have just walked to the edge of the mountain and
- 10:22Speaker 1: looked out and seen the road it was parked on.
- 10:25Speaker 1: So the family just couldn't understand his decision making. Investigators
- 10:28Speaker 1: would say there was no indication Dustin was trying to
- 10:31Speaker 1: hurt himself and foul play was ruled out. So what
- 10:35Speaker 1: was it that caused Dustin to abandon his car and
- 10:38Speaker 1: walk nine miles up hill and Ditch's clothes and Ditch's
- 10:41Speaker 1: backpack that contained his tent in his sleeping bag, and
- 10:43Speaker 1: then stick his head in a hole until he died.
- 10:46Speaker 1: The only thing that could be determined was that Dustin
- 10:48Speaker 1: probably died of hypothermia, but because of the state his
- 10:51Speaker 1: body was in from decomposition, the coroner said, we don't
- 10:54Speaker 1: know for sure. So, like all the other missing four
- 10:57Speaker 1: to one one cases, were left with lots of questions
- 10:59Speaker 1: and not a lot of answers. In twenty ten, Jan
- 11:05Speaker 1: mccabee was living with her husband, Bruce, in a town
- 11:07Speaker 1: called Lima, Ohio, which is approximately eighty miles southwest of
- 11:11Speaker 1: Lake Erie. While Jan had built a successful career as
- 11:14Speaker 1: a booking agent, for musicians, bands.
- 11:16Speaker 2: And entertainers.
- 11:18Speaker 1: Her real passion was deer hunting, so on September twenty
- 11:21Speaker 1: ninth of that year, right after deer hunting season had
- 11:23Speaker 1: opened in Ohio, Jan decided to go out on a hunt.
- 11:26Speaker 1: That morning had been cold and damp and gray, but
- 11:29Speaker 1: by that afternoon, when Jan was getting ready to go,
- 11:31Speaker 1: the temperatures had risen and the sun had come out.
- 11:34Speaker 1: Jan's preferred method of hunting was to sit and watch
- 11:37Speaker 1: from a tree stand, which is a ladder that you
- 11:38Speaker 1: put in the woods that sits about fifteen feet high.
- 11:41Speaker 1: She would sit up there with her bow and arrow
- 11:42Speaker 1: and wait to take a shot when a.
- 11:44Speaker 2: Deer came by.
- 11:44Speaker 1: Around five pm that day, she told Bruce she was leaving,
- 11:47Speaker 1: and she made it to a tree stand by about
- 11:49Speaker 1: five thirty. The forest she was going to be hunting
- 11:51Speaker 1: in was one she was very familiar with, and it
- 11:53Speaker 1: was not very remote.
- 11:54Speaker 2: There were a couple houses just outside the woods.
- 11:56Speaker 1: There was some agricultural areas, and her nephew actually went
- 11:59Speaker 1: to high school just a mile north of these woods.
- 12:01Speaker 1: But from the tree stand where she was sitting, all
- 12:03Speaker 1: she could see around her was trees. Shortly after Jan
- 12:06Speaker 1: sat down she started texting with one of her friends
- 12:08Speaker 1: on her BlackBerry, and periodically.
- 12:10Speaker 2: She poke her head up and look for deer. There
- 12:12Speaker 2: weren't any, and then she'd go back to texting.
- 12:14Speaker 1: The whole time this is happening, Jan can hear birds
- 12:16Speaker 1: and crickets and squirrels and all the sounds of the
- 12:18Speaker 1: forest all around her. A little after six pm, her
- 12:21Speaker 1: texting conversation with her friend reached a natural conclusion, and
- 12:25Speaker 1: so she went back to just kind of sitting in
- 12:26Speaker 1: the tree stand looking around. By about six twenty pm,
- 12:29Speaker 1: she still hadn't seen any deer and she was starting
- 12:31Speaker 1: to get bored.
- 12:31Speaker 2: So she decided she would take a selfie.
- 12:33Speaker 1: She picked up her BlackBerry, she took the selfie, and
- 12:36Speaker 1: as soon as she was done, she became aware that
- 12:38Speaker 1: the forest had suddenly gone completely quiet. No more squirrels,
- 12:41Speaker 1: the more birds, the more crickets, just complete silence. And
- 12:45Speaker 1: she knew as a hunter, the only time this happened
- 12:48Speaker 1: was when a large predator was in the area and
- 12:50Speaker 1: all the other animals went quiet. But Jan would later say,
- 12:53Speaker 1: there was just something different about this silence. It was
- 12:56Speaker 1: so sudden and so complete that it scared her, and
- 12:59Speaker 1: she went up sending another text message to that friend
- 13:02Speaker 1: she'd been texting earlier that said, the woods just went
- 13:05Speaker 1: completely silent, very odd. As soon as Jan hit stand
- 13:08Speaker 1: on that text message and lowered her phone, she immediately
- 13:11Speaker 1: became aware of something about twenty feet away in the
- 13:14Speaker 1: tree that was right across from her, and she said
- 13:16Speaker 1: it was the most unusual and terrifying thing she had
- 13:19Speaker 1: ever seen. Moving left to right through the branches, was
- 13:22Speaker 1: this thing that she described as like a visual distortion.
- 13:26Speaker 1: She said, it was like looking across pavement on a
- 13:28Speaker 1: really hot day and seeing that mirage, except this one
- 13:31Speaker 1: looked like it was alive, like it had mass, like
- 13:34Speaker 1: it was a see through person that had been wrapped
- 13:36Speaker 1: in saran wrapped. And so Jan thinks it's a floater
- 13:39Speaker 1: in her eyes, and so she rubs her eyes, and
- 13:41Speaker 1: when she looks up, this thing has now moved down
- 13:44Speaker 1: a branch closer to her and has stopped like it's
- 13:47Speaker 1: perched on the branch staring at her. And Jan's horrified,
- 13:51Speaker 1: but she knows she wants to document it, so she
- 13:53Speaker 1: grabs her phone and she raises it up and she
- 13:56Speaker 1: takes a picture on her BlackBerry right as this thing
- 13:59Speaker 1: kind of disappears behind the tree and vanishes. Just seconds
- 14:03Speaker 1: after this thing disappeared, all the sounds in the forest
- 14:05Speaker 1: came back, the birds, the squirrels, the crickets. It was
- 14:08Speaker 1: all back to normal. But jan was really shaken up
- 14:11Speaker 1: because she just could not make sense of what she
- 14:13Speaker 1: just saw. So she just continued to stare in the
- 14:15Speaker 1: general direction of where this thing was for several minutes
- 14:18Speaker 1: until finally she felt like it was safe again, at
- 14:21Speaker 1: which point she brought her phone up to look at
- 14:22Speaker 1: the pictures she had taken. When she looked at it,
- 14:25Speaker 1: it looked like a blurry mess, and so she thought, up,
- 14:27Speaker 1: I blew it. I put my hand over it, or
- 14:29Speaker 1: my hair got in the way.
- 14:30Speaker 2: Of it or something.
- 14:31Speaker 1: But at the same time, she's thinking to herself, but
- 14:34Speaker 1: my hair didn't get in the way of it. And
- 14:36Speaker 1: I very clearly held it out in front of me,
- 14:38Speaker 1: and know that I was looking at my phone when
- 14:40Speaker 1: I took it, and I had a clear shot of
- 14:42Speaker 1: this thing. So I don't really understand how this photo
- 14:45Speaker 1: got so messed up. But after looking at the picture
- 14:47Speaker 1: for a little while, she started to kind of laugh
- 14:49Speaker 1: at herself. You know, the idea that she had just
- 14:50Speaker 1: seen a saran wrapped person running through the treetops. You know,
- 14:54Speaker 1: she just felt like that that didn't happen. It must
- 14:55Speaker 1: have been in my head. And as for this picture,
- 14:58Speaker 1: I probably just blocked the lens and that's it. That night,
- 15:01Speaker 1: when Jane got back to her house, she did not
- 15:03Speaker 1: tell her husband, Bruce, about what happened to her in
- 15:05Speaker 1: the tree stand, because again she's telling herself it was
- 15:08Speaker 1: all in her head. They have dinner, they clean up,
- 15:10Speaker 1: they sit down in the living room and they're both
- 15:11Speaker 1: on their phones and they're just kind of scrolling through
- 15:13Speaker 1: the Internet and their emails. And at some point Bruce
- 15:16Speaker 1: reacts to something he's reading. He makes a sound, and
- 15:19Speaker 1: jan hears him and says, Oh, what are you looking at?
- 15:21Speaker 1: And he said, you know, I just got a really
- 15:22Speaker 1: interesting email from our nephew, you know, the one that
- 15:25Speaker 1: goes to school down the road. He said that today
- 15:28Speaker 1: they were outside for band practice and at some point
- 15:30Speaker 1: all of them turned to look at the forest and
- 15:33Speaker 1: there was a bright circular light that was kind of
- 15:35Speaker 1: hovering in the forest, and I guess they all stared
- 15:39Speaker 1: at it for about five or ten seconds, and then
- 15:41Speaker 1: at some point the light kind of went back into
- 15:43Speaker 1: the forest, and they didn't know what to make of it.
- 15:45Speaker 1: And I guess one of his classmates said that a
- 15:47Speaker 1: year before, the exact same thing happened, and it apparently
- 15:50Speaker 1: scared their instructors so badly that they canceled rehearsal and went.
- 15:53Speaker 2: Inside because of it.
- 15:55Speaker 1: As Jan is listening to her husband read this email,
- 15:57Speaker 1: she's sitting up and her heart is racing, and as
- 15:59Speaker 1: soon as he finishes, she says, what time did he
- 16:02Speaker 1: say that happened? Bruce picked up how intensely she was
- 16:05Speaker 1: asking him, and so he looked at the email, looked
- 16:07Speaker 1: back at his wife and was like, it was between
- 16:09Speaker 1: seven fifty and eight. Why. At this point, Jan revealed
- 16:12Speaker 1: everything that had happened to her while she was hunting,
- 16:14Speaker 1: you know, seeing that visual distortion in the trees that
- 16:16Speaker 1: looked like a figure of some kind. And she would
- 16:19Speaker 1: tell him that the forest she was in was the
- 16:21Speaker 1: same one their nephew was claiming to have seen this
- 16:24Speaker 1: circular light floating inside of She told him she tried
- 16:27Speaker 1: to take a picture of the thing she saw, but
- 16:29Speaker 1: the picture.
- 16:29Speaker 2: Didn't come out.
- 16:30Speaker 1: But her husband, who was an optical physicist and therefore
- 16:33Speaker 1: an expert at analyzing a picture, said here, let me
- 16:36Speaker 1: take a look at it. As soon as he looked
- 16:38Speaker 1: at the image, the first thing he asked her was, well,
- 16:40Speaker 1: did your hair get in.
- 16:41Speaker 2: Front of the lens?
- 16:42Speaker 1: And she said no, I was holding it about a
- 16:44Speaker 1: foot away from my head, and my hair was in
- 16:45Speaker 1: a ponytail in a ball cap, so that can't be
- 16:48Speaker 1: my hair. And so he looked at it again and
- 16:49Speaker 1: he asked her, well, did you put your finger over
- 16:51Speaker 1: the lens?
- 16:51Speaker 2: Maybe?
- 16:52Speaker 1: And she said, yeah, I might have. I don't think
- 16:54Speaker 1: I did, but it's certainly possible. And so, not really
- 16:57Speaker 1: thinking much of this picture, he decides, before giving the
- 17:00Speaker 1: phone back, to just check the resolution of the image,
- 17:03Speaker 1: because whenever he would examine a picture, that was something
- 17:05Speaker 1: he would do. And he discovered an anomaly. It turns
- 17:08Speaker 1: out Jan's BlackBerry was only capable of taking pictures in
- 17:11Speaker 1: three distinct resolutions. Basically, the size of the image could
- 17:15Speaker 1: only come in small, medium, or large, and this picture
- 17:18Speaker 1: she had taken of this thing she saw in the
- 17:20Speaker 1: trees was a resolution size that was not small, medium,
- 17:24Speaker 1: or large. It was some random size that the phone
- 17:27Speaker 1: was actually not capable of producing. And so he asked
- 17:30Speaker 1: his wife, like did you manipulate your resolution settings?
- 17:33Speaker 2: And she said, no, I don't even know how to
- 17:35Speaker 2: do that.
- 17:35Speaker 1: So Bruce looked at the other couple of pictures she
- 17:37Speaker 1: had taken that day, and all of those fell into
- 17:40Speaker 1: the small, medium or large resolution size. It was just
- 17:43Speaker 1: this one picture that was a total anomaly. And so
- 17:45Speaker 1: Bruce was suddenly really intrigued by this image and by
- 17:48Speaker 1: his wife's story, and so he continued to study the image,
- 17:51Speaker 1: and he kept asking his wife questions about, you know,
- 17:53Speaker 1: how she was positioned in the tree stand, and where
- 17:55Speaker 1: the sun was, and how far away this thing was,
- 17:57Speaker 1: and everything about the whole layout. And eventually Bruce started
- 18:00Speaker 1: conducting experiments to see if he could duplicate this image
- 18:04Speaker 1: his wife had created, and he got pretty scientific about it.
- 18:07Speaker 1: Then he could not duplicate it ultimately, because Bruce trusts
- 18:10Speaker 1: his wife did not alter the photo in any way,
- 18:12Speaker 1: and he trusts his wife as being truthful about what
- 18:15Speaker 1: she experienced in the tree stand, you know, what she saw,
- 18:17Speaker 1: And based on his years of being an optical physicist,
- 18:20Speaker 1: Bruce believes whatever was in the trees.
- 18:23Speaker 2: Distorted this image.
- 18:24Speaker 1: That even if she had put her finger over the lens,
- 18:26Speaker 1: which he doesn't think she did, and she doesn't think
- 18:28Speaker 1: she did.
- 18:29Speaker 2: The picture resolution was altered.
- 18:31Speaker 1: In such a way that something had to have an
- 18:33Speaker 1: effect on it.
- 18:34Speaker 2: There was a third party effect on this picture.
- 18:37Speaker 1: If you're interested in reading all of Bruce's scientific findings
- 18:40Speaker 1: about this picture, I have included his write up that
- 18:42Speaker 1: he posted online in the sources below.
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