Latest / Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast / Episode 128: The Hilarious Mess that is "Dooku Captured" (Part 1 of 2)
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- 0:00It's most things Kenobi, an elegant podcast for a more
- 0:04civilized fandom. Hi everyone, welcome to another
- 0:21episode of Most Things Kenobi, a podcast about Obi Wan Kenobi and
- 0:25all things Star Wars. I'm your host, Lauren.
- 0:28And I'm your host Leanne. Well, this week we are starting
- 0:32a new Ark from Clone Wars. We were talking about the Dooku
- 0:35Captured Ark and starting with the episode Dooku Captured Yay.
- 0:41This episode brings me such joy. It is so ridiculous and fun,
- 0:48it's hard to not smile the whole time when you watch it.
- 0:51I mean when we talk about the. The goods from season one.
- 0:55I consider this it, yes. Oh my gosh, absolutely.
- 1:00It's it's just great. There's it's messy.
- 1:04I think it's it's kind of like just one long comedic episode.
- 1:11Something happened in the writing room or in the filming
- 1:16studios where they're like, you know what, let's have some
- 1:19fucking fun with this one. Seriously, this sass is like,
- 1:24it's on like high gear in this compared to the other episodes.
- 1:28It's really funny. And like every character, yes,
- 1:32it's it's just one thing after another.
- 1:35I don't know if there's a single non comedic line spoken except
- 1:39for what Dooku says. Well, yeah, I mean, well,
- 1:42otherwise I think it's all SASS. Yeah, and I love this episode
- 1:46because we get to see Dooku not being Dooku Y.
- 1:52That'll work. It is.
- 1:54Now we know him from the prequels at this point, right?
- 1:59And he's so like long in the face maybe.
- 2:02OK, well that's literally, literally true in in the Clone
- 2:06Wars. But he's very, you know, like
- 2:09solemn, stoic, serious. And then this episode he's just,
- 2:14he's a mess. And the second episode, the
- 2:17follow up episode that we'll be doing.
- 2:22Is this the first time we meet Hondo?
- 2:24Yes. Yes it is.
- 2:27He's a delight. He is.
- 2:29And his little quackian monkey lizard, Yeah, and his whole crew
- 2:33of bandits. I There's so many things I love
- 2:37about Hondo. I love that Jim Cummings based
- 2:40his accent on Yul Brenner. I just think that's I just
- 2:46picture replacing you have Brenner and the King and I with
- 2:50Hondo and I just, I think it would be delightful.
- 2:53It's fantastic. I love that their starships are
- 2:59flying saucers. Yes, we've never seen saucers in
- 3:04Star Wars before. I love that Hondo gets the
- 3:07flying saucer. He gets the alien stereotype.
- 3:11Saucer, you know, we come in peace.
- 3:15It's almost ironic, that's true. I love the sound effects of it
- 3:23too. It's really cool.
- 3:25Well, I'm just thinking of straight up 1960s Roswell, you
- 3:29know, the Greens and the Grays. Anyone a fan of Coast to Coast
- 3:34AM out there? Look, we have a lot of alien
- 3:38conversation in this households, as you well know.
- 3:43I do. I never would expect that a a.
- 3:47Pirates of the Caribbean look alike would come sauntering out
- 3:51of a flying space saucer. Flying saucer Which came first?
- 3:56I don't know. The Pirates of the Caribbean
- 3:59came first, right? Why did I never think that?
- 4:02Hondo's Captain Jack Sparrow, but.
- 4:04He looks just like him. He's got the braids and the
- 4:06layered clothes. He's a pirate.
- 4:08He's a, he's a yes, you know. Yeah.
- 4:11And everybody who's playing the Pirates, they have the the
- 4:14classic like pirate accent going on.
- 4:18It's it was It's just pure delight, honestly.
- 4:22It really is. And and I love when Anakin
- 4:25states the obvious, like towards the end of the episode that
- 4:28everyone's thinking like, how did this band of pirates capture
- 4:31Dooku when the Jedi, the Jedi Order and the Republic couldn't?
- 4:35You know, mostly because Dooku allows himself.
- 4:38I mean, he has no choice. The premise is he has no choice
- 4:43and he's like, all right, I'll just join you back to your your
- 4:46lair. You know, and I was thinking
- 4:48about this because it's so unrealistic, honestly, that
- 4:51Dooku would get captured by pirates and they're they
- 4:55surround him. And Hondo says you're
- 4:57outnumbered. It's like that is not a problem
- 5:00for Dooku. For a Sith, yeah.
- 5:02So there's some part of him having to, like, agree to it.
- 5:05That's how you get Dooku, or a Sith of any kind to, like, make
- 5:09a mistake. Exactly.
- 5:11He needed to bide his time till he could get a ship and leave.
- 5:15He seemed so embarrassed. Imagine.
- 5:17Like, do you think Sidious was real pissed?
- 5:21Oh, for sure. When that ransom call came in,
- 5:25you know Palpatine had to be like son of a bitch.
- 5:28I trusted you. It's not part of the I'm gonna
- 5:30leave him in that jail cell for as long as possible.
- 5:34You know what I'm gonna send? I'm gonna send motherfucking.
- 5:37What's his name? Jar Jar Binks.
- 5:39Jar Jar Binks to stall. He hoped he would mess it up.
- 5:44Yep, it's all right. That's why you didn't send
- 5:49anyone else. He's like, you know what?
- 5:50Take your time, Jar Jar. Yeah, you know, why was Padme in
- 5:55that meeting at all? Because Anakin.
- 5:58And someone had to send Anakin, so why not?
- 6:01Yeah, I guess she sure has a lot of authority to suddenly declare
- 6:04that they want to send to Jedi. The Emperor's like K You could
- 6:10just go ahead, that's fine. Sure, Yeah, I I always wondered
- 6:15that. It's a little awkward, the
- 6:16meeting with Palpatine and like. The Senators, Padme is just
- 6:21always in the office. Yeah, I know and I don't know.
- 6:24Whatever. It's just an excuse to, like,
- 6:26tie it to Anakin somehow, I guess.
- 6:28Yeah, it's all very convenient. I suppose it's maybe because
- 6:32Palpatine and Padme might be friends, because they're both
- 6:35from Naboo, but really, maybe it's just Palpatine keeping his
- 6:39enemies close. So he true.
- 6:41Very true. I've always thought it was
- 6:43weird. Didn't really make that much
- 6:45sense, but whatever. Well, every senator thing that
- 6:48involves Padme is kind of like convenient, you know, But I
- 6:52mean, that's the show. That's the show.
- 6:54You're right. OK, so the intro, the little.
- 7:01Oh, not that. Not that intro.
- 7:05I love how it's so jarring. I know it's always shocking when
- 7:09Tom Kean's voice breaks in. I just mean the little the
- 7:14fortune cookie at the beginning. The winding path to peace is
- 7:18always a worthy one, regardless of how many turns it takes.
- 7:22What the fuck are they talking about?
- 7:24I the winding path to peace. There is no peace in this
- 7:28episode. That's why it's hilarious.
- 7:30Everyone's at odds. I was like, what?
- 7:32Peace. And like capturing a person for
- 7:35peace. Like I I just felt like that
- 7:38message made no fucking sense at.
- 7:39All I guess. I guess if if you take into
- 7:41consideration the fact that Anakin and Obi Wan are like,
- 7:45look at the fortune we've landed in.
- 7:47We are friends with weak ways who captured Dooku and UN
- 7:50unlikely allies and blah blah blah.
- 7:53Maybe that maybe, yeah. But it all goes awry.
- 7:57Anyway, nothing is as it seems. It's a stretch, but we do get
- 8:04Obi wanted a space suit. We do.
- 8:06We do. I.
- 8:11The thought of space suits in Star Wars is weird to me.
- 8:15Every time I see one, I know it's very shocking because they
- 8:19they don't care. They show up wherever they take
- 8:21their mask out. They're breathing foreign, you
- 8:24know, alien air all this time, and it's fine.
- 8:28Like they did it in the Ahsoka show.
- 8:29And I just thought it was so weird.
- 8:31I just, I think it's weird. Yes.
- 8:33Whenever someone puts a space suit on in Star Wars, it's a
- 8:38little too close to home. I don't mean to be that person
- 8:42someone was. Someone was messaging me about
- 8:45the Ahsoka show and they're like, at first I thought maybe
- 8:48that was cool, and then the longer the scene went on, I was
- 8:50like, I think it's pretty lame. Yeah, and it's it kind of got
- 8:54ridiculous. I mean, I get it, but I don't.
- 8:56It fit her montrails, which was so weird.
- 9:00I mean, it has to. But anyway, this is all besides
- 9:02the point. We get Obi Wan in the space
- 9:04suit. He looks great.
- 9:05Well, it's like one of those. It's like a fishbowl, like a
- 9:08bubble head. And his hair is just perfect.
- 9:10It's. Of course it is.
- 9:11I mean, space cannot touch the follicles on that man's head.
- 9:16Cannot and will not his hair is in a vacuum in and of itself so.
- 9:20It is, huh. Untouchable.
- 9:26And the snark starts pretty much from the 2nd Obi Wan opens the
- 9:31cell to Anakin's. The whole thing is Anakin is
- 9:34captured on purpose to try and capture Dooku to infiltrate.
- 9:38And then the the married couple begins.
- 9:42They're married. Couple arguments, Been together
- 9:45too long. Yep.
- 9:48And this? Is only season one.
- 9:52They've already had enough of each other.
- 9:54Yeah, yeah, yeah. It really it starts with Sass
- 9:58and doesn't stop the entire time.
- 10:01No. In fact, this episode has one of
- 10:03our favorite scenes of all time, and that's at the end of the
- 10:07episode, which we'll get to. But yes.
- 10:09Oh my gosh. I mean, I love that scene.
- 10:11It's fucking ridiculous. But, you know, they go through
- 10:14this whole thing and they're on Vancorp and that's how they all
- 10:17kind of meet up, right? Yeah, crashed and then Obi Wan
- 10:21Mannequin crash and it's a three-part act, like 3 acts in
- 10:2720 minutes and it's really a bit much.
- 10:30It's a lot. The gang's all here, literally.
- 10:34Like there's a gang of pirates, a Sith Lord, and a couple of
- 10:39Jedi who argue like married people.
- 10:41It's fantastic. I feel like it's kind of the the
- 10:45Jedi kind of are dumb in this episode.
- 10:49They're really playing into Dooku's hands the entire time.
- 10:52I don't think Dooku was really fooled at all by Anakin getting
- 10:55captured, and he seemed to be expecting Obi Wan anyway.
- 11:00And then Dooku captures. No, no.
- 11:07Then he traps them in The Cave. He lures them in traps.
- 11:10It's just like they are acting like they're so superior their
- 11:13whole time and they're really just getting owned by Dooku one
- 11:17minute after another. It's.
- 11:19Ridiculous. Obi Wan turns it into one big
- 11:21nonchalant lesson for Anakin in The Cave when the mother of all
- 11:25gun darks comes after him and he's just casually wiping off
- 11:29his light Saber. And you know Anakin can't find
- 11:32his cause. Dooku took it, but like the
- 11:34whole thing is, it's a lot of 1 liners.
- 11:36Snippy 1 liners back and forth to each other if they stopped.
- 11:40Doing that, they might have not been duped by Dooku so easily.
- 11:45Stop. Wait.
- 11:46Stop having your heads up your asses and pay attention.
- 11:50Like, listen, I'm here for the comedic element.
- 11:54But, like, the reason they're in this predicament is because they
- 11:57can't stop going at each other one sass at a time.
- 12:01Yes. Which is why Luminara gets fed
- 12:04up with them in the The Point Reign episode where she's like,
- 12:07could we get back to work, please?
- 12:10Leave it to a woman to have to settle it between two dudes,
- 12:14right? Let's get back to work.
- 12:16Come on. I do want to know if getting
- 12:19crushed by a pile of rocks isn't a good enough excuse to lose
- 12:23hold of your lightsaber than what is?
- 12:25True, what Obi Wan gives Anakin shit about it.
- 12:28I I've always felt like he was crushed by a pile of rocks and
- 12:34that's a good enough reason to lose hold of it, I think
- 12:38personally, But that is a feeble excuse, is what Obi Wan says.
- 12:42I was just thinking about the connection to the Kenobi show
- 12:45with the rocks. Wow.
- 12:48Good. Wow.
- 12:49It just hit me that Anakin has a comeback.
- 12:53In that moment, by piling rocks on top of him, he's held a
- 12:58grudge from Vancorp all these years later.
- 13:06I mean, think about it. It's a good point.
- 13:09I mean, I'm sure there's absolutely no connection, but in
- 13:12this moment I'm thinking about it.
- 13:15We see a through line. Yeah.
- 13:16Yes, we do. I do like to though with this
- 13:20whole thing in The Cave and they release the poison gas and
- 13:24they're literally dying. Yes, yes, Ahsoka becomes the
- 13:29Ginny Weasley of Star Wars like a child with so much power to
- 13:34just explodes the wall in. Yes, and I I love that even as a
- 13:39kid. Her solution for the Gun Dark is
- 13:42to close The Cave wall instead of hurting the the creature.
- 13:47Absolutely, yes. That's how it should be done.
- 13:50It's just so Ahsoka, I felt. Yes, and and really that goes
- 13:55back to her tales of the Jedi, how her first encounter with
- 13:59that beast, like she's going to connect maybe and save them.
- 14:03That's what I like about Ahsoka. She's she is a feeler and she is
- 14:07going to save or at least protect an animal or creature or
- 14:11whatever as the first resort. Maybe later she'll deal with it
- 14:14a different way, but yeah. But yeah, even she has a sassy
- 14:18line. Even she greets him with some
- 14:20sass. And Rex.
- 14:22Isn't Rex also there, giving him a side eye through the the
- 14:25helmet, quiet, watching the the shit unfold.
- 14:30He looks so young though. Oh my gosh.
- 14:33I know, I know. So fresh and and not aged by
- 14:37war. And yeah, I know.
- 14:40And honestly, I feel like all of the actors too, except for Matt
- 14:44Lanter. Matt Lanter is so easy.
- 14:46He's just so like comfortable it seems in the role.
- 14:49But I feel like the other people, the other performers,
- 14:52are still kind of feeling it out.
- 14:54And James is somewhere between mimicking you in and then like
- 14:58stretching his legs a little more with the character and.
- 15:01Did you know that Obi Wan's line?
- 15:05You're not the prisoners I'm looking for.
- 15:08Is an echo of. These are not the droids you're
- 15:11looking for, yeah? So that's kind of, that's kind
- 15:13of a nice tie. And I read that, so yeah, you
- 15:16know, I always come with the little factoids.
- 15:18They usually try very hard to not over reference the original
- 15:22source material. But that was too that was too
- 15:25good. You could not put that in.
- 15:27I mean, come on, it's it's perfect snark too, because it
- 15:30works with Obi Obi Wan's persona in The Clone Wars anyways, and
- 15:34it's a nice little nod. So yeah, exactly.
- 15:38How did they refresh my memory? Because I did not watch this
- 15:41beforehand. I'm going off of complete memory
- 15:44because I had to get rid of Disney Plus because the price is
- 15:47OMG Oh yeah, it's bad. Anybody, Anybody feel me out
- 15:51there? I don't have it currently, but
- 15:53I've seen this episode enough times that it's like ingrained.
- 15:55But how do Obi Wan and Anakin get from Vancorp to wherever
- 16:00Hondo and his, his, his little home, his lair is?
- 16:05How do they get Florham Florham? Yeah, Ahsoka and Rex rescue them
- 16:09out of The Cave and bring them back aboard their gunship.
- 16:12Whatever their major. It's not a Star Destroyer, but
- 16:15it's what they were before that which I can't remember the name
- 16:17now. Starfighter that's too small.
- 16:20The giant one, whatever that is. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 16:24And they get a call from the Senate and the chancellor, and I
- 16:30think it's Mesa Windu, actually says that they have a mission
- 16:33for them to go to Flora because the pirates have captured Dooku
- 16:36and they have to go unarmed to Dooku's lair.
- 16:40Not Dooku's lair, No, sorry. Hanu is tired.
- 16:44Can you tell Hondo's lair? He's only got like 3 hours of
- 16:48sleep so I'm a little tired but. Oh God, God help me.
- 16:53Although Dooku's lair is the episode.
- 16:56No, there is no Dooku's lair. Grievous's lair fucking
- 16:59Grievous. 'S lair is the one before this
- 17:01one. Yes, and you love that episode.
- 17:04God, I'm just gonna go to bed now.
- 17:06Have a nice day everyone. I forgot who Darth Bane was, so
- 17:09it's fine. So that's how they get there.
- 17:13OK, that that does jog my memory.
- 17:16There's a meeting and then they go in the twilight.
- 17:19His shitty little ship that he stole from Jabba's palace or
- 17:23something like this. God, that thing.
- 17:28The thing that Obi Wan takes to saves the tea and it.
- 17:31Yeah to hell. Well, they had to get rid of it
- 17:34somehow, and that was the only way they.
- 17:36Were going to get rid of that. And this is where Kenobi and
- 17:42Hondo form their friendship, their lifelong Kenobi.
- 17:49Yeah, forever. Forever BFF.
- 17:53I love that Hondo is just like the king of his castle.
- 17:57Oh yeah, whatever he wants. Anyone will answer to him.
- 18:01He's obviously a decent ringleader.
- 18:03Yeah, people follow him. Slightly.
- 18:06He is smart. Hondo's smart.
- 18:09He's clever. I'll give him.
- 18:10I'll give him that. If you want to learn more about
- 18:12him, we did a whole episode about Hondo, so check that out.
- 18:16It was interesting. Very and and the best part is,
- 18:20is that he's unapologetic and that's why I think everyone
- 18:23loves him. Because the Jedi are trying to
- 18:26be something. The Sith are trying to be
- 18:27something. The the Senators are trying to
- 18:30be something. Anakin and Padmeyer are trying
- 18:32to not be something. And then there's just Hondo
- 18:36being Hondo, who gives a shit. He doesn't like people.
- 18:40He does like people. He's in it for a price.
- 18:42He's not in it for a price. I mean, he's just, he's a
- 18:44businessman. He is, yeah.
- 18:47He doesn't take anything too personally, unless he wants to
- 18:50take it personally then he chooses to, right?
- 18:52That's correct. He's really funny and I love
- 18:55watching him with his clan. I guess he's sitting there
- 18:59laying back drinking and his monkey lizard is refilling his
- 19:03comfort him over and over. I love that so much.
- 19:09I think that was what our dear friend Master Crumb, Salacious
- 19:14Crumb should have done for Jabba, but he just sat there.
- 19:18I think he should have been a drink filler.
- 19:21Yeah. He was more of a court jester, I
- 19:23guess. I'm not going to lie.
- 19:24I want to go to Hondos Lair. I want to hang out.
- 19:29I want to BS play cards, drink, watch the dancers.
- 19:36I want to go there, to the the cantina tattooed into the hive
- 19:41of scum and villainy. Like that's Hondo's place.
- 19:45He would take that as a compliment.
- 19:46Absolutely. I really wish that Ogus Cantina
- 19:50in a Galaxy's Edge was a little more slimy and seedy.
- 19:55It's it's actually very nice and there's no, like, there's no
- 19:59seedy characters. It's all pretty well kept
- 20:01because it's it's a Disney park, but.
- 20:04Right, right. It it could be like one of those
- 20:08instances where every once in a while Hondo or one of his
- 20:11pirates could come out in costume and like just completely
- 20:15steal the show at the bar at the time.
- 20:17I think it would be amazing, but they don't do it anyway.
- 20:20Oh, they should. Opportunity missed?
- 20:22Really. Right.
- 20:23Hire us. We'll give you ideas, Disney.
- 20:26Damn, there's so much going on in this lair that is so not a
- 20:34kids show. Not a kids show.
- 20:37What? Like, right at the end.
- 20:39That's even all of it. Just right at the end there
- 20:41there's like a pirate trying to grab a barmaid's ass.
- 20:45They're drugging the Jedi. There's a lady dancing on the
- 20:49table flirtatiously. Like, yes.
- 20:52And that's that's our favorite part.
- 20:54Because me and you have laughed about this forever if you pause.
- 20:58And watch the expression of Anakin and the expression of Obi
- 21:02Wan. It's so good, so good.
- 21:05Anakin's like, oh wow, dancers and legs and ladies and things.
- 21:11We don't really actually know the gender.
- 21:13We assume it's a female. Yeah.
- 21:16I haven't. Well, you kind of only see the
- 21:17legs. You see the dancer from far away
- 21:20once. But I I didn't pause it to look,
- 21:22but yeah. Yeah, so this is the Stripes
- 21:25tights. Yeah, like like a witch or
- 21:27something. Like Beetlejuice with.
- 21:33It's it's actually a female Beetlejuice.
- 21:36But no, it's I think it's great because it shows Anakin's not
- 21:41childlike but like adolescent like oh pretty pretty women
- 21:45dancing and oh we want trying not to look does and then forces
- 21:50himself not to by covering his eyes.
- 21:52And I love the entire thing. Yeah, he he likes it a little
- 21:57bit. He goes like a little side
- 22:00smile, smirk thing where you can tell it's kind of, I can't tell
- 22:04if it's judgement or enjoyment or both.
- 22:08It might be both. It's a little both, it's.
- 22:11It's great though, because they didn't have to add that detail.
- 22:13And they did, and I love it. You know what else I love about
- 22:19that scene? That moment is when Hondo and
- 22:23Obi Wan give toasts and Obi Wan says to powerful pirates and new
- 22:27friends of the Republic. And if you watch it with
- 22:29headphones, you can hear a pirate in the background say,
- 22:33oh, that's very nice. No way.
- 22:40I got to listen. I never wear headphones.
- 22:43Which is probably why I can't ever hear any single episode
- 22:46ever, of anything. But like, I need to hear that.
- 22:48Oh, that's very nice. It's really funny, 'cause he he
- 22:52kind of makes like a silly toast and no one says anything.
- 22:55But in the background you can hear somebody.
- 22:57He's like oh. Who?
- 22:58Who added that? Who was the voice of that
- 23:00person, I wonder? And isn't our other favorite
- 23:03scene when they sass and harass Dooku as he's hung up?
- 23:08Yes, they are sore winners. They are shitty winners, those
- 23:13Jedi. Are.
- 23:14Yeah, yeah. I I I love how Obi Wan's face
- 23:18comes in as he delivers like that last line to Dooku.
- 23:22I can't remember it though. What is it?
- 23:24Do you have it? Wrote it down because I like it
- 23:26so much, yeah, Dooku says. They are devious and deceitful
- 23:30and most importantly, stupid. And everyone says it's a wonder
- 23:34you don't get along with them. Dooku, you have so much in
- 23:36common. That's it.
- 23:39That's it. It's so rude.
- 23:42It's great. It's also reminiscent of when
- 23:47Obi Wan is hung up, kind of yes in the heck of the clones.
- 23:52Heck of the clones, yeah. So it's another nod to something
- 23:55else. Dooku was gracious to Obi Wan in
- 23:58that moment. He wasn't.
- 23:59He was talking about Qui Gon. He was still kind of wanting to
- 24:02get Obi Wan on his side. And then there's this.
- 24:06Yeah, this is. Take your shot, Obi Wan.
- 24:10He is so like the obnoxious teenager in in that moment.
- 24:14It's just like, yeah, could you just mature please?
- 24:18I I expect this from Anakin in those moments.
- 24:21And he delivers. But Obi Wan is like, yeah, well
- 24:24where do you think Anakin learned it?
- 24:26This is true. He wasn't that sassy as a little
- 24:30kid. He definitely learned it from
- 24:31being around Obi Wan for too long. 100%.
- 24:36And and and Ahsoka learned it from them together.
- 24:39So she is from a lineage, but it's a lineage of sass and
- 24:46backhanded compliments. Pure Sass.
- 24:49I love it. Well, do you remember how
- 24:51beautiful Vancour is? Beautiful.
- 24:55Yeah, dude, it's got the sparkly rocks.
- 24:57It does, but it has ACID. It does, but so does Florham.
- 25:02True, and it is not sparkly. Floram is ugly.
- 25:06Floram is opposites, kind of. They are, Yeah, 'cause vancour
- 25:10is Gray and kind of sooty looking almost, I would say.
- 25:14But then the rocks sparkle like diamonds, and then Floram's the
- 25:19opposite. It's orange, Looks kind of like
- 25:21a desert. It's arid.
- 25:23I was looking up some pictures, 'cause I was curious if it was
- 25:25based on something, and I found some concept art for it.
- 25:29Basically they're they're their designs that would go to the
- 25:32animators and they're talking about the gorges, basically that
- 25:38which we don't really see so much in this episode or this
- 25:41arc. It's like later when they show
- 25:42Florham later, but still it really looks like an old seabed.
- 25:47Also like Southern Nevada, Utah, if you're from the States, yeah,
- 25:52that was an old seabed. If you look at it from space,
- 25:55you can see the ripples like if a.
- 25:57If a mud puddle or AI don't know what people call them locally,
- 26:01but like if there's a puddle of water and it dries the
- 26:04striations of the. Yeah, so there's, there's that
- 26:08and then there's like, it almost looks like there was running
- 26:10water at some point maybe because there was.
- 26:12There's like curved Canyon bottoms that come up into
- 26:18pillars or anvils kind of. So it's like a mix of water and
- 26:23wind I'm sure, but it does. Look like it?
- 26:26Yeah, I know they don't. They have any reference anywhere
- 26:29to why they design it like this. I haven't gone into the
- 26:32Wikipedia explanation, but I found this design on
- 26:35starwars.com so it was kind of cool to see it.
- 26:38And they have like notes about they have grass clumps, stick
- 26:41plants and barnacles as kind of part of the design for what
- 26:47lives on the surface of the planet.
- 26:50And they say to use that throughout their design like
- 26:52it's these three different elements are meant to be
- 26:55scattered like throughout the design.
- 26:56I thought that was kind of interesting that they reference
- 26:58barnacles specifically. Yeah, well, that's we know.
- 27:01I hate. Those are so ugly.
- 27:04I know. They kind of grossed me out like
- 27:06a lot. A lot.
- 27:08It's like I'm not even going to give voice, but forum is.
- 27:11I'm sorry. Vancour is much prettier because
- 27:14of the sparkly. But aren't they there?
- 27:16Aren't the Hondo and his dudes there to harvest something?
- 27:19They're stealing something. I don't know if they're doing
- 27:23anything specific for the They show up after Dooku crashes and
- 27:27then they ransack the two ships that crash.
- 27:31Oh. OK.
- 27:32All right. OK, yeah, so I don't know if
- 27:34they're doing anything else, but they are definitely carrying
- 27:36crates and boxes out of both the Obi Wan ship and Dooku ship.
- 27:42Well. When an opportunity presents
- 27:43itself, you know right? When you're a pirate pillage,
- 27:47you move quick. Yeah, I do like to in the
- 27:51background because you can see far distance shots, especially
- 27:55on Vancorp. You can see where they are and
- 27:58their ability to animate. Like the backgrounds are still
- 28:01matte paintings and there's none of that atmospheric particulate,
- 28:06you know, that they kind of bring in later.
- 28:07So it's still like early days in the show.
- 28:10It's still pretty basic, but it still looks so beautiful and was
- 28:14like miles ahead of other animation that existed at the
- 28:16time. It's very true.
- 28:18I'll give it that, yeah. I don't mind season one
- 28:22animation. It's not as good as later
- 28:25animation, but I don't mind it. It's it's like, it's kind of
- 28:28like a nostalgic thing for me. Yeah.
- 28:32And we didn't know any different at the time, You know, we know
- 28:36now how beautiful it can be. But when it was starting, they
- 28:39were breaking new ground for animation.
- 28:42It was pretty impressive. I miss like the early days of
- 28:45the clone, like when everything was new.
- 28:47I love going over this and talking about these episodes
- 28:50that we love and why we fell in love with them.
- 28:52But there's something so magical about seeing it for like the
- 28:55first or second time. And I kind of miss that.
- 28:59I know I do, too. I do with All Star Wars even.
- 29:02I know, I know. Well, if I ever have dementia
- 29:05someday, Leanne, just show me Star Wars new, new and fresh so
- 29:09I can enjoy it for the first time.
- 29:12Fun fact November is Alzheimer's and Dementia month.
- 29:16Oh, is it all right? Well, I would just like to say,
- 29:20I would like to sit next to Anakin at that bar and you know.
- 29:26Pick his brain on what he's actually thinking.
- 29:28And then I would like to slide on over next to Obi Wan Kenobi
- 29:33and pick his brain about what he's thinking.
- 29:36Because I guarantee you it's two totally different things.
- 29:39Yeah, I want to know. I'm sure.
- 29:45I know. Everyone looks really beautiful
- 29:48this episode. He's very nicely animated.
- 29:52Well, his side profile, especially at that bar when him
- 29:55and Anakin turn towards each other and toast.
- 29:58It's especially sharp. Yes, it is very pointed.
- 30:02Very, very handsome. Yes.
- 30:10So next week is the other half of this two-part storyline, and
- 30:15the episode is called the Gunk in general.
- 30:17It's ridiculous. It UPS the ante of
- 30:21ridiculousness. Things are going to it stays
- 30:25pretty light. It does, and we love it.
- 30:27And we'll talk about it and you know what it's going to be?
- 30:30It's going to be a fun time because a lot of it is just over
- 30:33the top. Sassy, absurd and great.
- 30:38Last week we talked all about Mark Hamill and it was fucking
- 30:42delightful. It really was and we asked our
- 30:46listeners outside of Star Wars, what is your favorite Mark
- 30:50Hamill role light wise on Spotify, said.
- 30:53I just love listening to an animated or voice over role and
- 30:56all of a sudden realizing, hey, that's Mark Hamill.
- 30:59Yeah, even if he's disguising his voice, there's always hints
- 31:02of his raspy juviality underneath.
- 31:05That's really true. That's a good description.
- 31:09Raspy joviality. I like that.
- 31:12That's a really good description, Forest Jedi, said
- 31:16Joker in animated Batman series. Genius.
- 31:19Yes, totally agree and Emily said.
- 31:23Well, I haven't seen many at all, but apart from Star Wars,
- 31:26it has been his performance as Fire Lord Ozai in Avatar.
- 31:29His voice acting is absolutely chilling and perfect for the
- 31:32role and that's so true. He's so good in that show.
- 31:36It's amazing. And Darth Kevin made me laugh
- 31:40out loud, he says on Twitter. My favorite role of Mark Hamill
- 31:44that always comes to mind is the trickster.
- 31:46Circa 1990. And he included a picture of the
- 31:49outfit that Mark Hamill wears as the character.
- 31:52And it is absurd. And I love every inch of this
- 31:56costume. It's everything.
- 31:58And that's what I told Kevin. I said this outfit's everything.
- 32:02It's really worth looking it up if you aren't aware what it
- 32:05looks like, because it's it's nuts.
- 32:08I just it's fantastic and the hair is also fantastic.
- 32:16So thank you everyone who submitted their favorite roles.
- 32:19It was hard to pick from, but you did it.
- 32:20Thank you. Thank you so much for joining us
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