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Miss Molly Knows Stops by to Find Our Lost Stuff · Curious Cat - where science & supernatural collide

• 0:16
  SPEAKER_01: Just for the listeners' benefit, we have a old friend of the show.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_01: Molly's not old.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, if you could see her, like she's just glorious.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_01: She's beautiful on the inside and out.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_01: And we bonded over my first season of Curious Cat.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_01: And we do, we we can't believe it's been four years since you've been here.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_01: But you have so many talents.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_01: But one of the ones most recently that people might know you for is the Finder of Lost Things.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_01: And um, but you know, on this show, anything goes, we have a couple of things we were gonna see if you could give us some guidance on.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_01: But um, before we start, how are you?
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_01: How are you doing?
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_02: We just got back from um we had our boat out of the water for almost a year.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_02: Oh we traveled all over Canada two different times, and then we went to Mexico, and then we came back, and our boat was finally done.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_02: So we're back on our boat in Miami, living the life and pretty soon heading, you know, heading somewhere else.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_01: Who knows where?
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm so happy for you because we always talk about that.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_01: It's like you have mermaid vibes.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you totally have like glorious mermaid vibes.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_00: You could get any ship to just run into a rock.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe that's a very niche superpower.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_05: Is it allowed nowadays?
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_00: Or like can we still do that?
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_00: Still do what?
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_05: Jesse's wondering if we can still do that.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_05: I didn't know we ever could.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_05: Can we still crash rocks?
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_05: And I mean, I guess back in the olden days we could, so I hear, but I mean some of the brown one time.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_02: Is that close enough?
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_02: Enough, good enough.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so you're you're you're on the boat right now.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_02: I am.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_02: You probably hear slapping in the background.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_02: I can't do anything about it, unfortunately.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_01: No, I don't.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_05: I'm still slightly still all my knucklehead dogs over there.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_05: So I mean me too.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_01: And my knucklehead dog, uh Molly, we both we're trauma bonded besties, but we both have Cooper dogs um in our separate spaces.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_01: And my Cooper, I mean, it's such an ego.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_01: It thank goodness I don't operate from the ego as much anymore as I used to in my youth, but he sits at my feet and just snores while we sit and have our podcast.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_02: My Bruce is sitting right here, he's a boxer bully.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_02: I'll show you.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_01: Oh wow.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_01: We love dogs.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_01: Does he love being back on the boat again?
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, he loves the boat.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_03: Loves the boat.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_03: He missed it as much as we did his dog.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_01: And it's so cool.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_01: It is fantastic.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_01: And that first night back on the boat, did he just sleep like a sweet like a sweet log of?
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_01: We're so happy to be back on our boat.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_01: We missed it so much.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_01: I bet you did.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_01: Well, um, fill in listeners that um I'm gonna have links to when you've been on the show before, but how did you come to know that you have the gifts you have, if you don't mind, just like taking a step back?
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like I'm I'm channeling Nicole Bigley right now, but I just want to know where that originated.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_02: Well, um, to make it as brief as I can, when I was three, I had mirror uh death explainings, which is where I started to consciously notice spirit energies.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I actually could see them.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, when you're a child and you have those abilities, parents often don't know what to make of it.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_02: And so as I got older, it got stronger and presented more, and I was acting out, so to speak, which basically I was verbalizing what I was seeing and feeling and hearing, and it scared my parents to uh get me medical help, which makes sense.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that I'm nothing or resentful in any way if I were a parent and I didn't really understand these things.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_02: I suppose if my child was saying, I see this person and they're not five anymore with the imaginary friend, yeah, or screaming in the middle of the night because they're afraid someone might be dying or something to that effect, yeah.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_02: I would take my kid in to get them checked.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_02: Of course, they never figured out anything.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_02: And when I hit about 13 years old, um, it just got to the point where I I didn't want to talk about it anymore because I realized it just wasn't helping me in any way.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_02: And I I just thought maybe it was just me.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_02: So life goes on about six years ago.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, you know, I'd had incidents throughout my life that I pretty much brushed off or never really talked about.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_02: It just got so strong I couldn't ignore any.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_02: So I began exploring.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_02: And then uh one day I just woke up.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_02: I was on disability, and I was kind of trying to figure out what am I gonna do when I get off disability.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_02: This was during COVID, of course.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_02: And uh I just woke up and knew like start a channel, get some cards.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_02: I I was like I was on automatic, like that whole I did all these things in one day, just got everything set up, and then I did like a bunch of free just to learn and to practice and smart.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_02: When I finally found TikTok, which was mostly my main platform, which again I did not expect to be the one, it started to show up.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_02: And I made a lot of um friends and met some good colleagues and friends through it and learned from them.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_02: And then one day while I was doing a live, which is generally how I usually find out I have a specific skill, yeah, somebody asked me, like, can you help me find my cat?
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_02: And I said, I don't know, I've never tried that.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_02: And all of a sudden I knew what to do, I guess.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_02: And I told her, and then she would followed up a few days later, yes, I found my cat, exactly where you said, because I gave very specific details.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_02: But what was interesting was people would think that it would be like I'm watching a movie where the cat is and like watch the cat walking by it's not like that, it was from the cat's perspective, so that's how I knew it was different than regular psychic viewing, that it was remote viewing.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_02: Now, recently, I don't know this a rabbit hole you want to get started on, but I'm gonna bring it up.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_02: Bring it up.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, I have goosebumps.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_02: This girl, yep, and I have every single thing that they say goes along with the gate program.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't remember much of it, I just remember being told I was gonna be in it, telling my mom and bringing the letter home and all that good stuff.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you know how much you know about this stuff.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_01: We know a lot.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_01: Our show today that's dropping on the day that we're recording is about the gate program.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_01: My gate program, I mean, I could go on, but I want to hear your story.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_01: What age were you?
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_01: This is crazy synchronicity, isn't it, Jesse?
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_01: We're dying right now.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_05: Because that that episode came out this morning.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_05: Just this morning.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_01: Listen to this.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_02: You see, I'm behind on my episodes.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_02: So what ended up okay, so I remember where I was in school, I was in California.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, what part?
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_02: Like northern, uh central coast area.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_02: Central, okay, and you're thorough, by the way.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_02: So it's very wild that they found me for whatever reason.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_02: Now, my sister supposedly was supposed to be in the program too.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_02: She doesn't remember it.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_02: She claims she never did it, she has nothing to do with it.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_02: I was waiting older or younger?
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_02: Older, three years older than two years.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, got it.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_02: Put in at the same time, supposedly.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_02: And I didn't remember a lot of it.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_02: I remembered little bits and pieces, like the hearing thing where you hear the little sounds.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_03: I forgot about it, honestly.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_02: And then last year, I think when the gateway tapes were coming out, and everybody was talking, and I'm super into it, you know, of course, because I'm in remote viewing.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I tried to listen to them.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_02: And as soon as I put the headphones on, I'm like, I remember this.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_02: I've heard this before.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_02: What in the hell?
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_02: Flipped me out completely.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_02: I wrote about, I actually, my husband's sitting here, he's listening.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_02: He doesn't know this, but it was a couple years ago, maybe two.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_02: I actually started crying.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_02: I was so flipped out, like like a part of my world had been carved away that I didn't remember, and all of a sudden there it is.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_02: Like, like you said, like trauma, you know, like I'm like, it is trauma.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_02: I remember drinking this weird drink.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_02: I remember uh leaving the building, going somewhere with someone I didn't know a few times.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_02: I remember um the cards, the center cards, you know, which I do that to train myself, like not knowing that's how I knew how to do it.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_02: So then when that all happened, I suddenly went, duh, that's probably how I know remote viewing.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_02: Like, how do I know how to do it?
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_02: And then later I took a course in remote viewing.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_02: It didn't really help me, honestly.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_02: Not saying it's not a good course, it was a great one.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_02: It didn't really help.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_05: So we had a similar experience, uh, which is what was one of the the lead ups to Jen and I doing this podcast.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_05: Was uh we were we we had been texting about that, and um we got we just we were just texting back and forth one day about gate program stuff, and she would mention Jen would mention something, I would mention something, and and and like basically all of our memories started of about things started coming back like on that exchange.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_01: Isn't it wild?
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_01: It was like the the thing that Jesse's like, holy crap, I literally didn't remember it.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_01: And now that you said this, it's all back.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_01: Was the they had these tablets that we had to you know gargle, and then the tablets would show the staining on our teeth.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_01: No, they're not.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_01: We all know they're not.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but Jesse's like, how did I forget that?
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_05: Remember they turned your teeth all red and like then you had to left that, yeah.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_02: And that's why they would do that because they were trying to trick us into thinking that's what it was.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_02: Now, once I got the pink drink and I didn't swallow it.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_05: That's why I used to remember the pink drink, but Jennis brought that up too.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_02: And and Dennis, yeah, Dennis had it too.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_02: But this stuff was thick like Pepto Bismal, if I remember correctly, and it tasted really funky.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't care for it.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_01: Whoa.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_01: So um, did you actually so it sounds like you went to the classes and you remember somebody taking you out sometimes that wasn't uh like a teacher that was familiar to the school itself, but like to a mobile, like a you know, like a uh a classroom outside the main building?
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_01: Because a lot of times, like our program, it was on a portable outside by the playground asphalt, you know, where we would play.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_01: It wasn't in the main school building.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_02: The only memory I have.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_02: I know I left the classroom to do it.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_02: I know that.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_02: The only memory I have is being what I thought was the principal's office where they put you when you got in trouble.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_02: So that's it felt like you know, like almost like a soundproof, you know, like when they had uh not addition, um, rehearsal rooms and colleges and stuff like that.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_02: Trying to remember, but I don't know where on the so-called campus of my school that was.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_02: If it was, they may have taken me in a bus or I don't remember.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_05: Oh my god.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, so hearing test check, right?
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_05: Check okay.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_05: Pink drink check.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_05: Check.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, the stuff they put on your teeth, check.
• 11:10
  unknown: Okay.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_01: Strangers.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, strangers like uh a car.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_05: Stepdad in the military near a military base.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, okay.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_05: That makes that makes tons of sense.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's a mic, that's a mic drop.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, for sure.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_05: Do you do you remember?
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_05: Um, do you remember a lot of scoliosis tests?
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_05: That's my own personal, that's my own personal weird thing that I remember.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_05: It seemed like they were always checking our spine, like a lot.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and the funny part is when somebody has scoliosis, you can tell they have scoliosis.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_05: It's like it was like, what are you doing?
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_05: But doesn't it seem like they were they were they were like fascinated like with our spine.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_05: What what yeah?
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_01: So it's like, what's why are you guys so my third eye is literally just broke apart right now because I had a dream about a year or so ago.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_01: And I journal, you know, what my dreams are.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_01: And I was this man came to me, and he was like um, you know, much younger, you know, younger man, like half my age.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_01: And he said he was having chronic pain in the top of his spine where his his you know neck, you know, reaches his skull.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_01: And so I was helping him in my dream.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_01: I was doing this Reiki.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_01: And I said, I I don't mean to be weird, but it would be so much easier to do this if you would take off your shirt.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_01: So he takes off his shirt and there's a tattoo there.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_01: And the tattoo is like the om symbol, it's like that, but it's up, you know, it's like uh I'm I'm just gonna draw it like this.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_01: It was like I'll I'll draw it for you and hold it up.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it's like on the wrong tangent, but it actually sounds like it segues from your last episode.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_01: So that's cool.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_01: And I started like massaging there, massaging there.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_01: And then um, and I said, Can I go up your neck and onto your scalp?
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_01: And he said, That would be great because this is already helping.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_01: And then something just broke free in him.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_01: And I woke up and I was like, that was cool.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_01: I wonder what kind of entity he was.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_01: And I kept getting angelic entity, but I've never really found that symbol places.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_01: I've been told it might be Tibetan.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it feels like the alm symbol put on its side, but it was at the top of where people um will will always draw angel wings, and we know that angels don't look like that, but they can present that way.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_02: Well, and they also say that if you're in the gate program, one of the other things, and and you guys may have already discussed this, is uh a pronounced occipital.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_02: What's that?
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_02: Meaning you bet you bulge a little more back here than most people, which I do, you know, where the bottom of your brain is, that area.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I just assumed everybody was like that.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_02: No, and then your death experiences are another thing that's very common, and an IQ over 130.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_02: So I checked every box basically on this whole thing.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_02: So surprise me, honestly.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_01: It kind of makes me mad.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_01: I was just gonna say, I feel this arsenal energy.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, how dare they?
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_01: Because I feel like part of it was like wiping out, um, you know, having overlay of amnesia on what our gifts are.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_01: And I can feel that from you.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_01: It was weird because my the experience, and if you listen to the show, you'll hear it.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_01: But my experience is weird because I think I'm a little older than both you guys, but um, we were across from the Hanford nuclear reactor where they were processing plutonium for the um atomic bomb that everybody knows from World War II.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I just kept getting this download, this feeling that those scientists were just moved into weaponizing the population after that.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_01: And sure enough, I'm the 1970s, I'm in school, and they didn't call it gait, they called it alpha.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_01: They called it alpha, Molly.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_01: I know, and I I lied.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_01: They I started seeing them because um because adults caused me a lot of trauma growing up.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_01: I knew what unsafe adults look like, adults that wanted something that wasn't okay with me and how it happened.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_01: Like you get really good at reading a room really fast.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_01: And I saw that they started getting excited when I was hearing things underneath, you know, the tones.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_01: And I thought they look like hungry wolves, and I'm just gonna just play like I'm stupid.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_01: And I just went, No, I don't hear anything.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_01: I think this year's a little stronger.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_01: Are you trying to see if I'm deaf here?
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_01: And I just told and then they said, Okay, away with you, away with you, get the next person, get Fabian, bring Fabian in.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_01: So I did for the task.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_01: So I totally lied.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_02: So, what did you think when you did you ever watch Stranger Things?
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I did blow your mind a little bit because for me it did.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it did.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it did.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_05: I honestly didn't make the connection really until I a couple of two or three seasons in.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_05: I was like, Yeah, okay, they're kind of riffing off gate, or you know, which I I didn't even know that term that we just called it gifted and talented, right?
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_05: You know, in my school, which I I realize that's part of the acronym, but like um I I don't know.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_05: Now that I look back at strange things, I'm like, oh yeah, well, obviously, yeah.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_05: From the CERN, too, right?
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_05: That part that's the CERN.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, totally.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_01: You're exactly right.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_01: Do you find by the way, CERN?
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: They've turned off.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_01: Here's the weird aside.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_01: They have turned off CERN, they said, because they're doing maintenance on it.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm wondering, does that change your gifts, Molly?
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_02: Anything that changes frequency in the world, I imagine, changes our gifts, right?
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_02: Because they're frequency and everything's connected.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I'm guessing, yeah.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, I I couldn't tell you.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_02: I'm guessing it does.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because it's changing the world, yeah.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_05: They say it's turned off, and they say it's gonna be off for four years, and then you know, and I I I say, yeah, I don't know.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_00: We don't none of us believe we're getting three out of three.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_00: I know it's audio, but three out of three of us are like, uh, hell no.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, three three.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_05: There's a lot of eye rolling going on on this chat right now.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_01: There's a lot.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that whole thing in the ballroom.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm not gonna get political about the orange chicken bucket.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_01: We're not fans, but that whole weirdness in the ballroom, and then people like being feeling so comfortable with possibly gunshots at this gathering with the president.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they're taking wine and they're discerning which label is better.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_00: It's like that was CERN.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I feel like there's been timeline jumps 10 times.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_05: So weird.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_05: I I'm not gonna I don't I don't think you need a I don't think you need the large hard-on collider to like make that nonsense go down, whatever that was.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_03: Honestly, yeah, everything we need upside down is as as again certain things, it's very upside down right now.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_03: It's really yeah, it's it's very it totally is.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_01: That's why we need people like you in the world, Molly, because that was the next thing you were um sharing.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_01: I think is so you were on a live when you found out with the cat, oh, I can find lost things.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_01: So, what does that entail?
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_01: And what do people send you, and what don't you want to know that precedes it?
• 18:39
  unknown: Question.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so basically the way it works is you know, psychometry is when you hold an item.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm holding this pen or whatever, and then I tell you about it.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_02: I'm kind of doing the opposite.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_02: I'm finding out about what this is, and then I'm finding it.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_02: So all I need for most people is their first name.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_02: That's it.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to know last names.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to know your sign or birthday, none of that matters to me at all.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_02: Matter of fact, that could deter me, right?
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_02: Or not deter me, influence me, right?
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_02: I just get as little information because I don't want to be influenced.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to know that you're a truck driver because then of course I might go, oh, I see the semi.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_02: You know, like you know, I don't want to anything to touch my uh vision.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_02: So I get the first name so I can connect with the person.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_02: I need to know what it looks like and a decent description.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_02: Like telling me it's a wallet does not help me.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_02: Because what happens is I find a wallet all right, it ain't the right wallet.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_02: And that's happened probably a dozen times.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_02: They've asked for a ring, a purse, a wallet.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_02: They don't give me a good enough description and they do find it, it's the wrong one.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_02: And then I'm like, I don't have time to do another three right now.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so the the description, and if they have a photo and I'm able to look at it, great.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_02: I don't have to, but it helps.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_02: And then why do you have this?
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_02: How did you get it?
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_02: Was it a gift from somebody?
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_02: Was it something you bought yourself?
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_02: Did you find it?
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_02: You know, like how did you get this item?
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_02: And what is the emotional attachment to it?
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_02: Like this was for my you know, 10 years sober.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_02: I graduated or my grandma died, or whatever it is.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I've got to feel that feeling of what that energy is of that item.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_02: So that leads me to explain to you why I can't find it if they lost it, like lost it, like it's destroyed, or it got stolen.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_02: I can't usually find it.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_02: The connection's been changed.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_02: The energy, so if this is your pen, right?
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_02: And I find, you know, you f and you lose it, and I pick it up.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_02: Now it's my pen.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know who you are.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_02: I found this laying on the ground, or I stole it from you, or whatever.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_02: It's now my pen.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_02: Now it has my energy.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_02: Now there could be some of your energy left in there, but generally that's not the case, especially if it's stolen not the case.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_02: They've already infused it with their own energy, they've passed it on, or whatever.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but here's the weird thing I found out also.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_02: I've helped people and I felt like it was stolen, and they said I thought it was stolen because I know where it was, but it leads me to a relative.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_01: That's so awkward.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_01: But I can only say that to see the psychic part of it, maybe.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_02: So they found relatives had it, and they didn't necessarily steal it.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_02: They it was given to them and nobody told them, or they found it and they didn't know whose it was, or you know, it's usually something innocent like that.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_02: And that's what I was telling them.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_02: Don't take conclusion, you know.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, but um, but generally when it comes into me, we do a quick little breathing exercise, and then I just look at what I look as in my mind.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_02: I what I see or smell or taste.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_02: And sometimes it is a taste, sometimes it's a smell.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_02: I never know.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_02: And the other thing that's often interesting is sometimes I'll get mixed with mediumship is psychic.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_02: And I think maybe that's why I'm so good at it.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_02: Sometimes if it was your grandma's ring, grandma will give me information.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_02: Sometimes, though, the weirdest thing to me is when I get what I call a timestamp, so it will show me an Image of something happening at the time you lost it.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_02: One lady, I was trying to help her, and I'm trying to think what's timestamp.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, she was looking for something, and I kept seeing these vitamins in like one of those vitamin divider things where you put your daily vitamins, you know?
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_02: Or whatever.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_02: And I kept seeing it, but I kept seeing them spilled on the ground, spilled on the ground, and then seeing somebody holding their head.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know who this woman is.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_02: I'm on a live stream.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_02: I say that to her because I don't edit myself anymore.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_02: And she says, Oh, that's crazy.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_02: I get migraines.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_02: And I said, Well, this happened when you were having a migraine.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_02: You lost this thing when you were having a migraine.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_02: That's the timestamp.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_02: So wherever you were during that migraine where you dropped all over the floor, that's where it is.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_02: And she says to me, I've already looked.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_02: That's my bathroom or whatever.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_02: I don't remember what it was, but she says, I've already looked there, I haven't found blah blah blah.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_02: And I would say, Well, I don't want to say to you, I'm I can't look for it.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_01: You look for me.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I can't physically go find it for you, honey.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_02: A couple weeks later, she comes back and says, You were right, it had fallen on the floor by the sink where I keep my pills.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_02: Remember that there were pills on the floor next to the ring.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_02: See what I mean?
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like it's not the riddle for me.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_02: I get to fill it, figure, they have to figure out the riddle.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just giving like it's like I'm getting clues, the little riddle, and they got to figure the riddle out.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_02: It's not my riddle, it's their riddle.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_01: It is their riddle, and also that's why the timestamp is such a beautiful marker for them because it's like they can, I bet you a nickel, they remember the last time they had a migraine and dropping the pills because you have to collect them up.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_01: So it's like that's a little bit more clear of a sign, and it kind of gives the whole thing context, and then it's like, oh, I know exactly where I was.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_01: And you may be defensive and go, Oh, I've already looked there, but really, did you completely look there?
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_01: Because you probably thought it's one of a hundred places it could be when it's one of one at that point.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_02: Somebody's a very specific clue like that.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_02: Like I'll smell something or I'll taste something weird, I'll have a weird thought all of a sudden.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_02: And I just blurted out because I can't judge.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_02: And and and honestly, just like anything you know is an intuitive, usually the weirdest stuff is the stuff that really blows their mind.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_02: Like the weirdest vision you get, or the weirdest input you get is the one that they're like, oh my gosh, there's no way you could have known that, right?
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_02: So that's when it's really fun because sometimes it's so like one of the ones recently.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I had I helped her three years ago, I think.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_02: And we were up in Canada camping, and I get this email from this woman says, You're not gonna believe it.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_02: I couldn't find that ring.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_02: And I looked everywhere you said, and I found it, and you did help me after all.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_02: And I said, What?
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I kept seeing dirt.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_02: I actually found the video and I said, I'm not calling you out, but it's really dirty.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_02: Where this I'm like, I'm literally in the soil near your ring.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know, and it's really dark, but it's protected, you know, and I don't have to remember.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_02: So it turns out she was uh showing somebody something in a box that she had on her mantle and opened the box, and her grandmother's ashes were in a jar, and next to the jar in the box was the ring.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_02: You can't make this stuff up.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, you cannot make this stuff up a floor or something.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know, you know.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_01: So well, and you know, it's funny because or interesting.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_01: I say funny, but it's interesting.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_01: It's interesting because the things that have been like um have come forward that feel the weirdest are also sometimes the most important messages.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, I don't really want to give this message.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_01: And my guides are like, we're gonna make your stomach feel really bad, and it's only gonna get worse until you deliver this message.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh my God, I don't even know what the message is.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes I just know I have to go back to a place and I have to say, is it okay if, you know, I stream my own version of Long Island Medium for a minute?
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_01: Because I don't, I'm gonna throw up otherwise.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_01: And they're like, okay, I'm down.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, did your mother die of a drug overdose today?
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_01: And they're like, How the fuck do you know that?
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, she just said that she's been showing up with red and black, but you haven't been seeing that.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_01: So try ladybugs, you know, and they were like, oh, okay.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, I just had the ladybug thing, remember?
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_01: I know we totally did last time we were on live stream.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_01: You know the other thing that's crazy?
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly uh 24 hours ago.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_01: This is crazy because I didn't even connect it.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_01: 24 hours ago, I asked my guides, I'm like, okay, I feel like I've been disconnected with you for the last few hours.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, if we're connected, let's just do a little experiment.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_01: I'd love to see a red balloon first thing this morning.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_01: I forgot about that till right now that I even asked my guides for that.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_01: And I saw it first thing this morning.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh, that's funny.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_00: What that's so funny.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_01: But anyway, not to make it about me, but yeah, Jesse, last time we went on this crazy thing with ladybugs and my friend Sissy, who was murdered, and she's gotten such peace since then.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_01: And that was the message I had to give this little girl that was working at a cat groomer.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_01: I had to tell her, I'm like, this is my friend Sissy showing up and saying, There's something about your mother.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_01: And I and Sissy had connected with her mother on the other side because Sissy had been an addict and then had gotten clean and um had died, you know, and nothing to do with drugs or alcohol abuse.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_01: No, no judgment on who does pass away with those, like compassion and love.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but Sissy understood because she's like, I I'm one of your mom's guides around here when she passed away.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_01: And she was like, Yeah, it was exactly a year or a couple of years, I forget how many years that she died.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_01: And um, I haven't been feeling her, and I've been really frustrated and kind of pissed.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_01: And I said, Well, try ladybugs.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_01: And I and she goes, and she just as soon as she said that, she just started bawling.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_01: She goes, Can I just give you a hug?
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_01: And I said, I would love that.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_01: And we stood there and hugged and cried both of us for a good 15 minutes.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so and then I my stomach felt better.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_01: So my point being, what you were saying, like when you have a message that feels it's like this is random.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, is this my thought?
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_01: Right, never our thought.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_02: No, yeah.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_02: I remember I did a spirit drawing for you, and it was your friend.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_02: And and and as I was drawing, there were ladybugs climbing all over me, remember?
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_02: And all over your house.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I didn't know anything about it.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I was in Kentucky, Asmer.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_01: I don't even know that in Kentucky, it was during hurricane season.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_01: Holy crap.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I didn't know I know her, so we had a bad connection.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_01: I this is this is the story of you and me though.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_05: So yeah, so Jen's mentioned the the the ladybug thing before, and like, all right, now so now I know where it comes from.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because I do the spirit drawings as well, and I had done a spirit drawing for her to thank her for having me on the show.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was her friend Sissy, and as I was doing it, I filmed it, and there were ladybugs all over my house going crazy.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_01: Inside, you can't make this shit up.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_01: And Jesse, the drawings that Molly does, it's like left and right hand at the same time, and you so I um just it's a segue, but it's not.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_01: Are you still on TikTok?
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_01: No, I didn't think so.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, that's what I wanted to ask.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_01: So, um, so are you um post like is it your website where you're kind of posting some of your um videos?
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_01: I'm mostly on Instagram, uh YouTube and Facebook.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and I just because you know allowed to connect with you on YouTube for sure.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we will.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh, because you know, like I got married, we bought a boat, we've been sailing, you know, we've just been so busy, and I like to be in the right frame of mind when I'm working, and so it hasn't been my priority anymore.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_02: For a while, that was all I did, it was just my work.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_02: Now it's more like I do it because I want to, and I like and it really has zero to do with me worrying about numbers anymore because when I left TikTok, I was close to 40,000 followers, and that was really scary to leave because I'd be doing the live.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_02: I'd have two, three hundred, four hundred people in there at a time, which was wonderful.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_02: But um, there were some things in my gut that told me to get out of there, and so I've been on IG, I've been on all the platforms this whole time.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_02: It just felt like the right thing to do.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm seeing a lot of my uh colleagues from over there starting to do the same.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_02: I I just felt restrictive.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_02: I was getting a lot of weird notifications like that.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_02: My material made people uncomfortable.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_02: I'd been reported, I've been restricted.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_02: I'm thinking, what did I do?
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_02: I'm helping people find life lost items.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_02: I don't understand how I could be I mean, I'm not really Mr.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_05: TikTok, but I hear that like once they did that that sale transition, yes, that like it it's nowhere near what it was violation on top of the fact the fake accounts that were popping up to pretending to be me were hurting.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, yeah, there's about a hundred of them at one point.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_02: I'd go through, complain about do formal complaints, get them anyway.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it just got and I didn't want to do that to people.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_02: And I had people writing me saying, You never sent my reading or you ripped me off, or this.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm going, I don't even know who you are.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_05: I think Jen has us set up to repost over there, but we don't we're not actively yeah, we're posting ghost over there.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it just it just drops clips and then yeah, we're just posting ghost, but we'll uh we'll find you on YouTube.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_01: We'll have connections to um links to everything that you would like uh in the show notes because yeah, because Jen's YouTube is blowing up now, she's turned into a YouTube star.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_05: So I mean, yeah weird.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't even know the clips were going up there.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Jen with a potty mouth.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like I'm channeling Betty White, basically.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we had this whole thing, and that I don't want to hurt Jesse's imaginator again, but we do have a little ongoing war with Jeff Bezos because we have a dear friend.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_01: We're authors, Jesse and I.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_01: That's one of our trauma bonds.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_01: But um, because our stuff was taken by AI models to train on uh non-consensual, just like so many other artists, right?
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_01: But we have this dear friend and Molly, I feel like you would love her.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_01: Her name is Rachel White, and she is the skeptical um shaman, is what her podcast is.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, she is something special too.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_01: And um, she just finished her book, The Business of Wu, which is an incredible book.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_01: Read that book.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_01: Where did I see that?
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_01: Because I thought it was great.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_01: Did wait, did I text it?
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think I texted it.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, I've seen it somewhere because I remember I thought the title was so clever.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_01: Well, she she's legit.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_01: She's become a dear friend of ours.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_01: It's been out what, like a month?
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_01: About less than a month, like because it's only the 22nd.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_01: I think it was like I think it was like May 1st was the official one.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_01: I think so.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_01: So all of but on Amazon, all of her um reviews were taken down except for 10.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_01: And she's been working really hard to get those reviews because it helps you with the algorithm and um being on the bestseller list, and they just disappeared.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_01: So we were kind of waging war with them, and so I was kind of pissed.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_01: And I I just did a live on Substack, and then Jesse joined me after I was already cussing like a sailor.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_00: So easy to go off on all that.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_02: So easy to try to go to, but then we laughed.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_05: Then we we transmute it with laughter, it's all fun and games until we decide to put a book up there, and then uh that's when we'll probably get our remaining.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_01: And Jeffy's like, No, you won't.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_01: So I had a weird thing happen to me.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um, Jesse knows the story, but I was on a hiking trail, um, not today, but a couple of weeks ago before I went to Tampa to visit my uh my grad student daughter that we were texting about, Molly.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_01: And I started seeing these items.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_01: It's on the top of this mesa.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_01: There's nothing else around.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_01: I was even off the trail.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_01: And I was off the trail.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_01: And the reason why is I almost went into kind of a trance and I started just following a tire rut and just kept going and going.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_01: And I didn't even realize until I was walking back that, you know, onto the trail after this whole thing that I had gone a couple miles and I was just in this kind of trance following it.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_01: And at the end of it were these items.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_01: They were these items of clothing.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_01: And I it made me really sad.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_01: Even before I I approached the clothing that was just discarded there, I had this feeling in my stomach, like the butterflies, like anxiety that usually means a message is coming through.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_01: And I just felt this overwhelming sadness.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_01: And I know it's not the finder of lost things, it's like I found lost things and I'm trying to make sense of what they were.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I got a weird feeling just by telling me that.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_01: And I and I and I bring it up because it's like, and it may not be right now as you're sitting before us, but um, my daughter, my eldest who lives in Colorado, which is why I'm here half the year, um, they live right up the mountain from me.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we're gonna go up to the mountain.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_01: And um, I also, when I was doing research, because I was trying to understand, did somebody go missing up there?
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_01: Is there a homeless person that um, you know, they they died up there and they need um some rights done to cross them over?
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_01: What is needed there?
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_01: And I found out that in the 1940s, two little boys were also killed feet away, and that was a different energy.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_01: They were at peace.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_01: What's that?
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_01: An energy, it feels female to me, whatever's going on there.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_02: Me too.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, that's what I felt right away.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, it felt like a female to me as well, and it's um it was an um orange safety vest that you would put over if you were working out in the field, and then there was like this black um baseball cap that was inside outed, and I just had the feeling she was up there and didn't want to be, and something happened to her, and that's the feeling we I've gotten, but that's all I've gotten from it so far, and we want to bring her peace and help her to be seen and and loved.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like we just want to blanket her and a little bit of love.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_01: So we're gonna hike back up there together because usually when my daughter and I go, we get stuff.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, I'll I'll I'll have to focus on that at some point and think about it.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah, yeah.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe later you can give me a little more information.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_01: I'll even I'll even text you the images because it's just I don't know if it would very serious feeling all of a sudden.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, me too.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, me too.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_01: Well, they thank you for even pondering it.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_01: I knew it was a weird one, and I will, I'll text you the images, and um, it is serious, you know, and and um if you are jolted out of this meat suit, I I can imagine there's confusion, there's anger.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you know what you were mentioning about gate?
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like, how dare they?
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_01: What was that?
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_01: It's like that's why it bothers me because I don't know what they did.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and it wasn't consensual.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like I don't know, I know some of it, but I don't know.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_02: Put an implant in me for all I know.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_02: Parents not know what happened, they don't know anything about it.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_02: They go, Oh, I remember you being in the program.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_02: That's all result.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_02: Like, what is this program doing?
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_01: You know, yeah.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_01: Well, uh, I I just have to interject, you know your body best, but I had when I was in Seattle, I was like, this is weird.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I had this black carbon fiber thing come out from beneath my finger.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_01: I showed it, you know, our mutual friend Karen Rontowski.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, You can't believe this.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_01: And she goes, Oh, I got trickster, and they're very proud of you for passing.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_01: So if you want stuff that anybody put in your body out of your body, apparently I was like, get the fuck out of me, get out of me.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_01: And it just like showed up on my finger like a blister and I popped it out.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_01: And it was this carbon fucking fiber, it looked like a dragon scale, but it was tiny.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_01: I know the weird thing.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_01: What?
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_02: A few years ago, you know, five or so around the time I started to figure out I had a you know needed to do something like this.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_02: I was traveling from COVID and I was like, it's cheap to travel right now.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_02: I went coast to coast a couple times.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_02: I was living in California at the time.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_02: I go through the thing and it alerts them that I have metal on me.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm like, okay, you know, you take off your belt, you take off your earrings.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I gotta tell you this because I love it.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_02: I take off my earrings, I take off my whatever, you know.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_02: And they're like, they put me through again.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_02: They're like, nope, still there.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, okay.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, it's the one where you put your hands up and it scans you or whatever.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_02: But they show me on the screen, and I I've not to be too graphic, but in my crotch area, my groin area, there's this little square that almost looks like you know, like a little circuit thing, like that size, like a little square or a rectangle.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_02: And I said, I don't know what that is.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_02: They said, Well, maybe it's a tag in your underwear, or you know, who knows?
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_02: And tell them I wasn't wearing any.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_02: But anyway, they wanted me.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_02: They wanted me and so forth, and they they let me go through.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_03: And I thought, okay, that was weird, whatever.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_02: It happened to me a bunch more times.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not kidding you.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_02: Same spot, same thing.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know what it is.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_02: I don't, I can't feel anything, not to be gross, but you know, I tried to figure out where it is, what it is.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_02: I can't feel it, but it's shown up almost every time since then that I've been in the airport going through the thing.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_02: Now, I did have a hysterectomy, they could have left something.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_02: I highly doubt it.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_02: No, so I don't know what the hell it is.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_02: So that's why I was interested in what you were saying.
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_05: Like, what would what would that be?
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_05: No, surgery that you know, there's nothing square in there.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, they showed me it looked like a little just a teeny little square, and not like I don't know, like you know, where your leg meets your groin area kind of little i it's like um you have you ever popped the sim card out of a cell phone?
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's what my guides were like.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_01: That's interesting.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_01: It's like a sim card.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_02: I mind as some kind of a little circuitry or something.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_02: No, but why did it show up then?
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_02: Like I've traveled in the airport since I was a little kid.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_02: Where did that come from?
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I yeah, I did.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_02: Did you have alien dreams prior to that?
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_02: No, I only have like one or two so-called extraterrestrial experiences.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_02: And yes, one of them happened shortly before that happened, but I wasn't like alone with them or it, and I wasn't like it was during the day, and somebody was there with me and witnessed the same thing.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_02: So I don't really know what that is.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, off tangent, but oh, it is so that my favorite is off tangent.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like that'd be a good podcast name, off tangent.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_05: That's actually a really good one.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_01: Wouldn't it be so good?
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_01: Well, Jess uh Jesse has a question.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_01: He has something he's been looking for.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_01: Do you want to do you want to hear his description of it?
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_01: Would that help you?
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_01: Let me grab a scrap of paper.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah, jot something down, yeah.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_05: And a package.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_05: You just tell me how much or how little you want to know, and and I'll I'll tell you.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I know your name.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_02: I see what what is the item and what does it look like?
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_05: Uh it's a book.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_05: It's blue.
• 41:42
  SPEAKER_05: Uh-huh.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, do you you want me to be as more descriptive?
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_05: What yeah?
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_01: Can he tell you what kind of book it is and all that, like what it is?
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_01: I'll ask you questions you can answer them how okay.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, good.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_05: Because I I don't I don't know, I don't know what your process is.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_05: So yeah, you just just ask me.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we'll treat it just like I do on live stream.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_02: What color of blue?
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_02: Like a teal, light, dark.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_05: Uh I would call it like a light to a babyish blue color.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_02: And is it something you write in?
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_05: Uh no, ma'am, already written in.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_05: It's a written book.
• 42:15
  unknown: Okay.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, you can tell me the title, you can tell me the author, anything you want me to know about the book, even what it means to you, and how you got it.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, it is a Bible.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_05: Um I don't remember how I acquired it or where.
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and it is a uh it's a it's a Masonic Bible.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_05: It has the uh you know, you know, the Masonic symbol on the yeah, yeah.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_05: I I which I cannot call up right now.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_02: But um is the writing gold or metallic gold or metallic silver or white or black too.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's uh it's it it it looks like uh it looks like those Bibles, you know, with the with the kind of the soft cover with the with the gold um the the ends of the pages are gold.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah, you know what I mean?
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, okay, yep, yeah, yeah.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_02: Prayer book.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, gotcha.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_02: All right, that's pretty much all I need to know.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_02: Is there anything like written in it or hidden in it that you need to find, or was it in a case or in a nothing like that?
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_05: It just uh it has been occupying uh bookshelves for probably 20 years, and now I don't know where it is.
• 43:25
  unknown: Okay.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um easy peasy.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_02: We'll do this.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_02: Now, here's what I always tell people just the clues I give you aren't always literal, as you heard.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_02: Sometimes they're more like, I don't know, but just believe you'll find it.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_02: Remember what I tell you, and it should help you.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_02: So, what we're gonna do first, we're just gonna breathe uh what I call a three, two, one countdown.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_02: It's super easy.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_02: Um, this is a great exercise, anyone listening, if you're just trying to focus for a moment.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_02: And you breathe in through your nose, you're gonna just hold it for a few seconds, and then you breathe out through your mouth.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_02: And as you do that, you see the number three in your mind, like on a movie screen, flash creak, three, creak.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_02: And we do the same thing with two and then with one.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_02: So it's like a mini meditation.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_02: And then a third.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_02: So do it with me if you would.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna breathe in through my nose.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_02: Go ahead and breathe in.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_02: Hold it.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_02: Now breathe out that flashing number three.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_04: Hold it.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_04: Breathe out that flashing number two.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_04: Breathe in.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_04: Hold it.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_04: Breathe out the flashing number one.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_02: Spirits Ancestors, Guides, and Energies.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_02: I'm here today with Jess.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_02: He's looking for his light blue Bible.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_02: It has gold edges on the pages.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_02: It has the Masonic symbol on the front.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_02: It is the Masonic Bible.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_02: Anything with any information get me to help find this.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um okay.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_02: Um, weirdly.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_02: I actually feel a little bit nauseous.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_03: Weirdly.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know why.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_03: Um let me see if I can see why I feel that or what's focusing me on.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_02: Um I'm seeing it near something cylindrical.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_02: And it feels like a plastic bin.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_02: And there's something cylindrical next to it, almost like, you know, you get those poster uh tubes.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_02: It looks like a poster tube to me.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_02: And it doesn't feel like there's a top on the box.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_02: It feels like a almost like a clear plastic storage bin to me.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_02: And I see it next to a cylindrical object.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_02: Like I said, it could be a bottle, but it to me it looks like a poster thing.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_02: And it's in a very quiet place.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, there's not a lot of movement when I'm seeing it.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_02: So it's someplace stored, obviously, where it's not like a lot of people are shuffling around, grabbing things, pulling things out.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_02: And I see it's a well-rit lit room, so it's not a storage facility.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_04: It's in somebody's home.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_02: But okay, now I'm seeing I'm seeing like a guest room with storage boxes and a closet.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_02: What looks to me like a guest room.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_02: And the reason I say guest room is again, I don't feel a lot of energy in this room.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_02: So it's a room that'sn't used.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_02: It could be a storage room, a music room, a guest room, you know, like it's not a room that people go in very often.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_05: That's what I got.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I do uh I do have those.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_05: I do have totes like that.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_05: Uh I I do have a lot of those poster tubes and things of that, you know, so that that that that tracks.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_01: And what about the room?
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_01: Because I kind of Jesse, I kind of got your sweet mama.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_05: Is there a room?
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we have a uh we we have a uh uh we well it was gonna be a garage back in the day, but they decided to turn it into a room and it's uh it used to be like a game room situation, uh, and we we we store a lot of stuff there.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it feels like there's not a lot of energy in that room, like not a lot of happening in that room.
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's kind of like uh you it's kind of like a pass back and pass through, you know what I mean?
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_05: It it because it leads it leads to the it leads to the cars, so it's people are just always coming and going, nobody really hangs out in there, and it's well lit, like Molly was describing.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, totally.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, and and and the closet that I like the closet area, it may not be in the closet, but the area I'm seeing, it's like if there's a closet in front of you, if you look towards the right in my mind, towards the right where the the wall meets the corner of the of the other wall, the where the corner of the wall is.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_02: I'm trying to talk it through by visualizing.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, yeah.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_02: Of the frame of the closet, it feels like it's in that area.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if it's tucked in there or it's in you know what I mean, like tucked closet, but that's kind of what I'm seeing.
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_02: So wow.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_05: Well, definitely give it a I feel like you're uh I feel like I feel like you're close.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_05: I feel like working.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_01: I wonder what the nausea is.
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_01: That was so interesting.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe, maybe yeah, it's almost like um were you I don't know.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_01: Do you remember the last time you saw it, Jesse?
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_05: Probably last time I remember seeing it been it would have been a couple of years ago, easy.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_02: There might have been something going on at that time.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_05: It potentially my mom was sick then and uh ended up passing away.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_05: I'm sorry.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_05: Uh and she was on chemo, so she was often nauseous, and you know that potentially, yeah.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_05: Wow, the only thing I can think of the connection.
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_05: That's wow.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_03: Well, definitely let me know.
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_05: She does have a she she she did she does there is a there is a a a suite bathroom dressing room that's attached to that room that she spent a lot of time in.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, like it was that was basically her space.
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_05: So that kind of tracks, yeah.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, okay.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_05: Well, let me know.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, please.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_05: I I'm I'm I I as I go through things, I am continually uh you you don't you you don't really know me yet, but um I have a lot of stuff.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_01: So I call it I'm constantly reorganizing things over here.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the cylindrical thing.
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_01: The cylindrical thing is the the poster tube, right?
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_05: I have a lot of posters, I have a lot of tubes, but I have a lot of those those those mailing tubes like that you're talking about.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I keep a little.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_02: So that's important.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_02: That's gonna help you find.
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_02: Doesn't mean it's right next to it, but that's gonna show you where it is somehow.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_02: You watch, it'll happen because like I was helping another podcaster find something, and I said something like I keep seeing lamps.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_02: She knew exactly what I was talking about.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_02: It wasn't near a lamp, but she knew where those lamps were.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_01: So right, yeah.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_02: So it might help you.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_01: Why did Leslie, why did Leslie fear come to mind?
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_01: I just have goosebumps all over me.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_01: Was it Leslie?
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_01: It was Leslie.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_02: And this is why we're friends.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_02: I've done this with I've helped has found their item.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody is expensive with has found their item.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they sure have.
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_01: Because of the connection, because I can feel it so much for you more than someone I don't.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_01: So, what's next for you?
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_01: You're going out on the water.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_01: Are you still doing any uh tarot readings?
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_01: Do you do those remote?
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I do them privately.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I do them privately, and I've always done the same way I do now, which is it's a recording.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_02: It's on YouTube, usually on a private, nobody else can see it.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_02: And I record it, and then you can watch it as much as you want.
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_02: You can share it with people, you can read the transcript, you can tell me to erase it, whatever you want, and you can watch it when you want.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_02: And it's so nice because then you don't have to have an appointment, you don't have to worry about scheduling.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_02: It's there, you could share it.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_02: A lot of people like to share with relatives or whatever.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and I know some people might prefer more interaction, which during my live streams I'll do.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but for me, because of my issues sometimes with electronics, as you know, and it just for me feels more authentic when they're literally giving me no feedback while I'm doing it.
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_02: I just run with it.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_02: And it's usually pretty detailed.
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_02: And they get that's a really cool idea.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_02: And then I tell them if there's something I didn't talk about they wanted to talk about, let me know and I'll pull a few cards or I'll do a little quick little thing and send you an email back.
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_01: So that's what I do.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_01: That is pretty amazing.
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you have amazing gifts, and you are an amazing treasure.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna have links to everything in the show notes that you want um us to point them to, but is there anything else that we didn't touch upon today that kind of tickled in the back of your mind that you'd like to bring up or well, you have a topic you wanted to talk about, but I don't know if you still want to talk about it.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_02: You were saying about how like things are crazy and how do we change our energy?
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, yeah.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_01: Is there anything like um I forgot about that?
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_01: I'm so glad you have a better memory than me.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um it's just like not ready for the interview.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, the collective is like hurting, like it's it's sometimes they spin out of control and it's that all that energy is just like spun out over stuff that I don't want to put judgment or words of judgment on it because people are just having their human experience.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_01: But I just wonder if uh just um you know, one empathetic soul to another, and then to another with Jesse as well.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_01: It's like what can we do maybe in the daily that we're not attaching our energy to the collective so that we like sync with them if the overall feeling is heavy, but just add lightness and love and peace, and I don't know, just being trying to be a stay being a bright light right now for people.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_02: Well, interestingly enough, I was watching a little boy that's a star seed talking about ants, and he was saying, like, you know, this ant on the sidewalk over here doesn't know that we exist as people.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_02: Like he doesn't know who we are, he doesn't know who the president is, he doesn't know, you know, what chocolate is, you know, like ants don't know who they are and how small they are in this multiverse.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_02: We're ants.
• 53:41
  SPEAKER_02: We don't really know the big picture.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_02: We think we do, we really don't.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, and so I feel like we we often, and I'm really bad about getting off on these crazy things happening and getting angry and why are they doing this?
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_02: First thing to do is remember there's a reason we don't understand it because be glad you don't understand.
• 54:02
  SPEAKER_02: If you understood why these motherfuckers, and pardon my language if you've got it, I love it.
• 54:07
  SPEAKER_05: No, please.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_05: Don't filter yourself, please.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_05: Go, go, do what you do, you do your thing.
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_02: The schmucks are doing what it's doing.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_02: We don't understand it because that's not who we are.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_02: So be happy about that.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_02: But you instead of trying to make sense of it, which I'm one of those people, I gotta make sense of everything, just like our abilities, just don't question it.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_02: It doesn't make sense because we would never act that way.
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_02: I'm glad I don't understand that.
• 54:37
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's like trying to understand people that murder people for fun.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_02: We will never understand that that's good.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_02: But the other part is we gotta be in the present, and this is something that has to do with what we do, the basis of meditation.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm not a good meditator, okay?
• 54:53
  SPEAKER_02: I'm terrible at you.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_02: So I have a three-second meditation, I just did just that's about as far as I can usually go.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, me too, to be honest.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_05: I'm I I've been trying for 30 years, I can't do it.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_02: I can't do it.
• 55:05
  SPEAKER_02: I can do listening to something that's guiding me, like a gate program or something, but I can't just do it.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_02: So I feel like we're just starting in the present.
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_02: And when we're worrying about what you know the orange turd's doing, or we're worried about what you know balloon boobs is doing, or that's not our show.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_02: And and my husband likes the theater.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_02: We're not watching that movie, we're not watching that show, and it is, it's a show, and we have zero control over it.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_02: So the best thing to do is be in the moment.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_02: Every time you see yourself leaving and going into that terrible whatever's happening, bring yourself back.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_02: Where am I right now?
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sitting on the ocean in Miami.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_02: Hello?
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_02: What do I bitch about?
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_02: Come on.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_02: Is that really affecting me right now?
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_02: And the other part is just to be able to be self-sufficient.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_02: This is why people are panicking.
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_02: Oh God, they're gonna take away my Medicare, they're gonna take away my this, they're gonna take away the yeah, they're taking it away, all right.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_02: You know what though?
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_02: That's why we have savings accounts that we put money away.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying people can do it, it's hard to save right now.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_02: But what I'm saying is give yourself credit.
• 56:10
  SPEAKER_02: You are capable of surviving.
• 56:12
  SPEAKER_02: You are capable.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_02: You could survive this, but don't wait.
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_02: Do something.
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_02: If there's stuff you're concerned about, do something, assuage your fears, move the hell on.
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_02: That's the best you can do, and be the example.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_02: If you want this world to be a better place, you be a better person.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_02: Let people see you living your life, let people see you being happy.
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_02: That's how they're gonna learn.
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_02: You can't talk a MAGA or anybody else out of their crappy behavior.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry, it's not gonna work.
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_02: Just like they can't talk you out of being a nice person, but you can show them that your life is radical and awesome and their life sucks.
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_02: And then they're gonna go, what are you doing?
• 56:45
  SPEAKER_02: That's so great over there.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, because I'm not a hateful jerk like you.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_02: How do you like that?
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe try that on for size, try being nice for once.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe don't slap your dog, you know?
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's we gotta be in the moment.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_02: That's really bottom line.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_02: Be in the moment.
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I had a I had a friend who uh she she was constantly uh she she'd say, uh, well, I don't understand.
• 57:11
  SPEAKER_05: If I if I had as much money as like Bezos or like uh uh Elon, like I I would like, I I I'd pay everybody's health care and I'd make sure that all the kids had food to eat and that's just and you know, and like I'd be like, that's why you don't have as much money as Bezos or Elon.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_05: Because if you thought like that, God forbid, yes, okay, then you you that you you don't get that level of wealth by taking care of others and people, you know, uh uh you don't by saving the world, you know what I mean?
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_05: But it's an anomaly.
• 57:55
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so so like you said, be thankful you don't understand why they do what the the dumb shit that they do with their money, you know, and and the way they act.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because um if you're healthy, if you're not healthy, you can have all the money in the world, it's gonna suck, you know.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_02: Physical or spiritual health is it it needs help.
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_02: It doesn't matter how much money you have, you're not gonna be happy.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I was like you you you have to be a certain type of like uh uh sociopath.
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_05: Sociopath, basically, to acquire that level of wealth and to hoard it.
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, exactly.
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_05: So we we're we are not we are never going to understand their motivations or what's in their brains or why they don't help the the the world with with what they've what they what they've pulled together.
• 58:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because if we had gratitude, we would say, yeah, I made$10 billion.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_02: I would love to give back.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_02: I would like to pay my taxes.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_02: As a matter of fact, I like to pay off everybody's student loans right now.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, for sure, which would be easy for the you know, or their medical care, their medical bills, you know.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um, going through what we did um the last year, it's like I am I was already aware of it, but I'm keenly aware of the fact that there are people that were fired and evicted when they got a really tough medical diagnosis because they didn't have any people safety net and the company that they worked for like just shed them, and the manager of their apartment building booted them out because the all they know is that the check didn't come in a couple of months in a row.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, we you're exactly right, and I'm really proud of the fact that the people that are listening to this, they know that and they give and they see and they feel, and they're the people that are doing these like simple secret kindnesses to their community and making a difference.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_01: And and I like that the difference is becoming so uh obvious, I guess is the word I was struggling for.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's it's revealing, you know, and yeah, and you know, we as intuitives we feel it amplified, like we feel it sometimes and don't even know why we're feeling it.
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_02: So it's really hard for us to shut it off because we're it's like it's like constant frequency hitting us all the time, and we can't, it's hard to turn it off sometimes.
• 1:00:30
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it affects me.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_05: That I'm not gonna lie, the last decade of uh or more of of just everything is it it affects you, you know.
• 1:00:41
  SPEAKER_05: With everything you got going on in your personal life, and then with the world uh seemingly in chaos, you know it I I mean you I feel that I know Jen feels that I'm sure you do too.
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_05: That yeah, it and um I think we just have to take care of like us and the people around us, you know?
• 1:00:59
  SPEAKER_05: That's what you can control.
• 1:01:01
  SPEAKER_05: That's what you that that's who you can save, you know.
• 1:01:04
  SPEAKER_05: You can you know, your your immediate community uh because we don't have those those insane resources where we could affect global change.
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_05: And the people that do obviously aren't gonna do anything with it.
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and and it's a hard lesson for all of us.
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_02: But as we know, no matter how bad things can get, you know, short of literally the planet blowing up, uh, it always ends up better later, you know.
• 1:01:30
  SPEAKER_02: And I think we're also seeing where there's some guides that need to be put up.
• 1:01:33
  SPEAKER_02: You know, amendments exist for a reason, and I think if this all changes in the world, especially in our country, we could see a lot of changes in our constitution as well, because some things came up we didn't know were gonna come up.
• 1:01:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:01:46
  SPEAKER_02: The loopholes have been shown.
• 1:01:49
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we we we had no idea because everybody would the there there was a certain level of like, this is how we do things, this is decorum, and then suddenly, you know, in in some cases for good and some cases for bad.
• 1:02:03
  SPEAKER_05: People come along and they're like, uh okay, who's nobody no, there's no law that says that we're gonna have to do this like this.
• 1:02:11
  SPEAKER_05: So yeah, there's gonna have to be some uh it's gonna have to be some common sense like paging around, you know.
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_02: How did someone who has a felony record become oppressed?
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_02: Like that that's a simple thing.
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_02: You wouldn't think anyone vote for somebody who has a felony record, right?
• 1:02:25
  SPEAKER_02: So that's kind of a surprise.
• 1:02:26
  SPEAKER_02: And this is not a political statement as to who I like or don't like.
• 1:02:29
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying, who would ever thought?
• 1:02:31
  SPEAKER_02: Somebody with not just one, don't they?
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_05: 34 or whatever.
• 1:02:35
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, I I look, I I don't I don't understand it either beyond the fact that um I I uh I guess people are just just just really unhappy and really feeling unheard or so I I I want you know, I've kicked it around in my brain, like I said, forever.
• 1:02:55
  SPEAKER_05: And uh I I don't know why.
• 1:02:57
  SPEAKER_05: You know, I've talked to friends of mine that are sociologists, and uh, you know, I'm just like well what is going on?
• 1:03:03
  SPEAKER_05: And they're they're like, hey man, well we don't know the the trains left the station, we have no idea, you know.
• 1:03:10
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, none of our none of our theories really prepared us for for any of this.
• 1:03:14
  SPEAKER_05: So I I don't know, you know.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, I agree.
• 1:03:18
  SPEAKER_02: I kind of just feel like it's just they have a sense of like they see themselves in that and then it traps them.
• 1:03:23
  SPEAKER_02: And so, like, like uh Jen Jennifer said, it traps them because that's who they are, and shows us who who the people are that are unhappy and and unhealthy mentally, physically, and spiritually.
• 1:03:35
  SPEAKER_02: We know who they are now.
• 1:03:36
  SPEAKER_01: We sure do, and we can just cut off that it's toxic energy, and just we can protect our communities in love and light, and that's what we can do.
• 1:03:49
  SPEAKER_01: That's what we are capable of doing.
• 1:03:51
  SPEAKER_01: Are you helping your husband find a lost thing?
• 1:03:53
  SPEAKER_01: I'll help him when I'm done.
• 1:03:54
  SPEAKER_01: It's okay.
• 1:03:57
  SPEAKER_01: No, we're almost done.
• 1:03:58
  SPEAKER_01: All right, well, we should let you go so you can help him.
• 1:04:02
  SPEAKER_05: Now that we've saved, now that we've solved all the world's problems, you know.
• 1:04:07
  SPEAKER_01: All you have to do is listen to your podcast and the world will get better.
• 1:04:10
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I hope so.
• 1:04:12
  SPEAKER_01: That's what we're trying to do, Molly.
• 1:04:14
  SPEAKER_01: Well, sending you love on the ocean, love to your dog and your husband and um your wonderful boat, and just enjoy enjoy this time on this the ocean.
• 1:04:24
  SPEAKER_01: I shall.
• 1:04:24
  SPEAKER_01: And uh let me know if anything, you need anything else for me or if anything didn't record.
• 1:04:29
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm sure it did.
• 1:04:30
  SPEAKER_01: I I'm seeing that it's recording, so uh, they didn't get us this time.
• 1:04:36
  SPEAKER_01: All right, love you, Molly.
• 1:04:37
  SPEAKER_01: Sweeting soon.
• 1:04:39
  SPEAKER_01: All right, bye.
• 1:04:39
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks, Jess.
• 1:04:40
  SPEAKER_01: Let me know.
• 1:04:41
  SPEAKER_05: It is a pleasure to meet you.
• 1:04:42
  SPEAKER_05: Thank you for coming on the show.
• 1:04:44
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I I really enjoyed this talk.