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- 0:00Speaker 1: Okay, so get ready for this. We are diving into
- 0:03a story. Well it's stranger than fiction definitely. So just
- 0:08picture this guy accused of some serious crimes and then.
- 0:12Speaker 2: Poof, he vanishes like off the face of the earth, right.
- 0:14Speaker 1: Exactly gone. But did he really disappear? I mean is
- 0:17that even possible?
- 0:19Speaker 2: Well, that is the big question, isn't it.
- 0:21Speaker 1: That's what we're going to try to figure out.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Today, unraveling the mystery.
- 0:24Speaker 1: The case of Nicholas Rossi, a man.
- 0:28Speaker 2: Who authorities believe went to extreme, maybe even absurd lengths
- 0:32to escape justice.
- 0:34Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean we're talking fake, deaf, new identities.
- 0:37Speaker 2: International manhut, the whole nine yards.
- 0:39Speaker 1: It's crazy, and we're going deep into all of it,
- 0:41deep dive using a Dateline episode called The Man of
- 0:44Many Faces, which is a pretty fitting title, wouldn't you say?
- 0:47Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely? I mean, talk about a story that lives
- 0:49up to its name.
- 0:50Speaker 1: It's like peeling back the layers of an onion, and
- 0:52each layer is more bizarre than the last.
- 0:54Speaker 2: It's really a wild ride.
- 0:56Speaker 1: So before we get into all the twists and turns,
- 0:58just to set the stage, is facing a number of charges.
- 1:02Speaker 2: Including allegations of sexual assault, and fraud.
- 1:04Speaker 1: Pretty serious stuff.
- 1:06Speaker 2: Right, and this case spans multiple countries, involves questions of identity.
- 1:11Speaker 1: Yeah, and it really does have it all. Fake death,
- 1:13international manhunts, you name it.
- 1:15Speaker 2: It's a real head scratcher.
- 1:16Speaker 1: So to kick things off, let's start with an obituary
- 1:19that appeared in twenty twenty.
- 1:21Speaker 2: Okay, so this obituary announces the death of Nicholas Alaverdian,
- 1:25supposedly from non Hodgkin lymphoma.
- 1:28Speaker 1: Seems pretty straightforward, right.
- 1:30Speaker 2: Yeah, A sad but not uncommon occurrence unfortunately.
- 1:33Speaker 1: But and here's the kicker. What if I told you
- 1:36that this obituary, the supposed ending, was actually just the
- 1:40beginning of the story.
- 1:41Speaker 2: Ah, now things are getting interesting, right. So enter Father
- 1:44Bernard Healey, a Rhode Island pastor. He gets a call
- 1:48from Alaverdin's supposed widow.
- 1:50Speaker 1: About holding a funeral mass.
- 1:51Speaker 2: Right, seems pretty normal.
- 1:53Speaker 1: So far, standard procedure exactly.
- 1:55Speaker 2: But shortly after he gets another call.
- 1:58Speaker 1: Oh this is where things take.
- 1:59Speaker 2: A turn, this time from the State Police, and they
- 2:02drop a bombshell. They tell Father Healy that they believe
- 2:05Alaverdian faked his own death and it's actually on the.
- 2:09Speaker 1: Run, probably in Europe.
- 2:10Speaker 2: Can you imagine being that pastor Yeah, getting those two
- 2:13calls back to back.
- 2:14Speaker 1: I mean, talk about a plot twist.
- 2:16Speaker 2: As like something out of a movie.
- 2:17Speaker 1: So now the authorities are thinking, Okay, this guy is alive,
- 2:20he's out there somewhere, and the hunt is on. An
- 2:22international man hunt.
- 2:24Speaker 2: Yeah, not an easy task, especially when you're dealing with
- 2:27someone who's probably trying to blend in, avoid detection.
- 2:30Speaker 1: Change their appearance, maybe even their name exactly.
- 2:32Speaker 2: They're basically trying to become a ghost.
- 2:34Speaker 1: And eventually authorities believe they've found their man.
- 2:37Speaker 2: But of course there's a twist, right.
- 2:39Speaker 1: Always a twist. This time the man they find is
- 2:43claiming to be Arthur Knight.
- 2:45Speaker 2: An innocent Irish orphan.
- 2:47Speaker 1: With an Irish accent to boot.
- 2:49Speaker 2: They even have an audio clip of him denying being
- 2:52Nicholas Alaverdian.
- 2:53Speaker 1: Oh we have to hear this.
- 2:55Speaker 2: Let's roll the clip right here. It is.
- 2:57Speaker 1: Wow, he's really committed to that accent.
- 2:59Speaker 2: It's quite the performents, isn't it.
- 3:01Speaker 1: It makes you wonder how often do investigators encounter situations
- 3:05like this where the suspect is so vehemently denying their identity.
- 3:10Speaker 2: It happens more often than you might think. I'll tell you, really,
- 3:13people will go to great lengths to avoid capture.
- 3:16Speaker 1: I guess that makes sense. I mean, if you're desperate,
- 3:18you'll try anything, right.
- 3:19Speaker 2: It's all about survival at that point.
- 3:21Speaker 1: So how do investigators deal with this? How do they
- 3:24separate fact from fiction?
- 3:26Speaker 2: They have to look beyond the performance, so.
- 3:28Speaker 1: To speak, focus on the tangible evidence.
- 3:30Speaker 2: Fingerprints, DNA, things like.
- 3:32Speaker 1: That, things that can't be faked exactly.
- 3:35Speaker 2: They need hard proof.
- 3:36Speaker 1: And in this case, there's something else that comes into play.
- 3:38Speaker 2: Ah, yes, the tattoos.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Tattoos. How do tattoos fit into all of this?
- 3:42Speaker 2: Well, you see, our alleged Irish orphan might have overlooked
- 3:46a few permanent markings on his body.
- 3:49Speaker 1: So you're saying that even though he went to all
- 3:51this trouble to disappear, he forgot about his tattoos.
- 3:54Speaker 2: It seems that way that's a.
- 3:56Speaker 1: Pretty big oversight, especially if those tattoos him back to
- 4:00his previous identity.
- 4:02Speaker 2: It's a detail that could unravel his whole carefully constructed facade.
- 4:06Speaker 1: So are we about to find out that Arthur Knight
- 4:09is really Nicholas Alaverdian In disguise.
- 4:12Speaker 2: That's where this story takes us. Next, those tattoos become
- 4:14a key piece of the puzzle.
- 4:16Speaker 1: This is getting good. I can't wait to hear what
- 4:18happens next.
- 4:19Speaker 2: Well, you'll have to stay tuned to find out.
- 4:21Speaker 1: Don't worry, we'll be right back after a quick break
- 4:23to dive deeper into this wild case.
- 4:26Speaker 2: Trust me, you won't want to miss it.
- 4:29Speaker 1: Okay, So we left off with this guy, you know,
- 4:32allegedly Nicholas Rossi, going through all this trouble to vanish.
- 4:36Speaker 2: Shaking his own death, new identity, the whole shebang.
- 4:40Speaker 1: Yeah, and then bam, those tattoos show up.
- 4:42Speaker 2: Talk about a plot twist. I mean, it's like something
- 4:44out of a spy movie or something.
- 4:47Speaker 1: Right, It's like, come on, man, you really thought you
- 4:49could just erase your past like that. Tattoos are permanent.
- 4:52Speaker 2: It's a classic example of how even the most elaborate
- 4:55schemes can well, they can fall apart because of those
- 4:58tiny little details.
- 5:00Speaker 1: And in this case, those tattoos, those tiny details, they
- 5:02become pretty damning evidence.
- 5:04Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. I mean it's hard to argue that you're
- 5:06not who people say you are when you've got those markings.
- 5:09You know, right there on your skin.
- 5:11Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like your body is literally betraying you exactly.
- 5:14Speaker 2: It's like a walking, talking billboard of your past.
- 5:17Speaker 1: So I imagine this really throws a wrench in Rossi's plans.
- 5:21Speaker 2: Oh you bet. I mean, remember he was fighting extradition
- 5:23back to the US to face those charges against him.
- 5:26Speaker 1: Right, So, legally speaking, do those tattoos change things? Like
- 5:30what kind of impact does this have on the case.
- 5:33Speaker 2: It's definitely a game changer for the prosecution. Oh so, well,
- 5:37up until that point, Rossi, he was able to maintain
- 5:40a certain level of.
- 5:43Speaker 1: Plausible deniability, like, oh, I'm just this innocent, Irish guy.
- 5:46You've got the wrong person, exactly.
- 5:47Speaker 2: But those tattoos, they blow that whole story out of
- 5:50the water.
- 5:51Speaker 1: It's visual evidence right there, plain as day.
- 5:53Speaker 2: It directly links him to Nicholas Elverdian, no doubt about it.
- 5:57Speaker 1: It makes you wonder what was going through his mind
- 5:58when those tattoos were discos Oh.
- 6:01Speaker 2: I can only imagine probably a mix of panic and uh, well, disbelief.
- 6:06Speaker 1: I guess, like, did they really just find me out
- 6:08because of my tattoos?
- 6:10Speaker 2: I mean, talk about a face paul moment.
- 6:12Speaker 1: So Before we get too caught up in Rossi's side
- 6:14of things, I want to circle back to Mary Gribinski.
- 6:17Speaker 2: Oh yeah, one of Rossi's alleged to victims.
- 6:20Speaker 1: You mentioned earlier that she revealed some new information in
- 6:22that dateline episode.
- 6:24Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is where things get even more interesting.
- 6:26Speaker 1: Okat, lay on me.
- 6:27Speaker 2: So Mary claims that Rossi actually contacted her after his
- 6:31supposed death.
- 6:32Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, are you serious? The guy who supposedly died,
- 6:36he reached out to one of his alleged victims while
- 6:39he was on.
- 6:39Speaker 2: The run, That's what she says.
- 6:41Speaker 1: But why, I mean? That seems incredibly risky.
- 6:44Speaker 2: It does, doesn't it. If he was so committed to
- 6:46disappearing starting this whole new life, why contact someone who
- 6:50could potentially expose him.
- 6:52Speaker 1: It's baffling, right, Like he wanted to get caught.
- 6:55Speaker 2: Well, it's hard to say for sure what his motives were,
- 6:58but it's a question that investigators would definitely want an
- 7:00answer to.
- 7:01Speaker 1: So from your perspective, what are some possible explanations for
- 7:04this kind of behavior.
- 7:06Speaker 2: Well, it could be a sign of his manipulative nature,
- 7:10you know, maybe trying to silence her or discredit her accusations.
- 7:14Speaker 1: Like a way to control the situation exactly.
- 7:16Speaker 2: Or maybe it was a lapse in judgment, a moment
- 7:18of weakness where he just let his guard down.
- 7:21Speaker 1: Oh so like he just slipped up.
- 7:23Speaker 2: It happens.
- 7:24Speaker 1: So what does this mean for the case legally speaking?
- 7:29I mean, does this alleged contact with Mary have any implications?
- 7:33Speaker 2: It could, especially if there's any evidence to back up her.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Claim, like phone records, emails, anything like that exactly.
- 7:40Speaker 2: And remember he was fighting extradition, right.
- 7:42Speaker 1: So this new information could strengthen the prosecution's.
- 7:45Speaker 2: Case, make it harder for him to avoid facing those charges.
- 7:48Speaker 1: It's like every time he tries to slip away, something
- 7:50else pops up and pulls him right back.
- 7:52Speaker 2: In, Like he's caught in this web of his own making, speaking.
- 7:54Speaker 1: Of webs, This whole situation, it's just so complex.
- 7:58Speaker 2: It really is a lot of moving parts.
- 8:00Speaker 1: So is there anything else about Mary's involvement that we
- 8:03should know well?
- 8:04Speaker 2: Her story, her testimony. It's crucial because it provides that
- 8:08personal perspective on the alleged crimes, you know, and Rossi's
- 8:13alleged attempts to manipulate and control those around him.
- 8:16Speaker 1: Right, So it's not just about the facts of the case,
- 8:18but also the impact it had on people's lives exactly.
- 8:22Speaker 2: And that brings us back to the prosecutor, David Leavitt.
- 8:24Speaker 1: Remember he called Mary's revelation a game changer.
- 8:28Speaker 2: Well, this is why. If Rossi was actually in contact
- 8:32with her after he supposedly died, it shows a consciousness
- 8:35of guilt, like.
- 8:36Speaker 1: He knew what he was doing was wrong.
- 8:38Speaker 2: Right, and that he was actively trying to manage the
- 8:40situation even while pretending to be dead.
- 8:43Speaker 1: It completely undermines his whole innocent victim narrative exactly.
- 8:47Speaker 2: And that's a powerful piece of evidence for the prosecution.
- 8:50Speaker 1: So it seems like with each new revelation, the walls
- 8:53are closing in on Rossi.
- 8:55Speaker 2: But here's the thing. Mary's story, as compelling as it is,
- 8:59it's not the only bombshell dropped in that dayline episode.
- 9:02Speaker 1: Okay, you've got to be kidding me. There's more. What
- 9:04else could possibly happen in the story?
- 9:06Speaker 2: Well, there's one more twist, and trust me, it's the
- 9:07wildest one yet.
- 9:08Speaker 1: All right, spill the beans. What is it? Okay, So
- 9:10you were saying there's another twist, something even wilder than
- 9:13everything we've already heard.
- 9:14Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this one, this one's gonna blow your mind.
- 9:16Speaker 1: All right, I'm ready to hit me with it.
- 9:18Speaker 2: So while Rossi is fighting extradition claiming to be this
- 9:22innocent Irish orphan, right right, he also claims to have
- 9:25been the victim of this bizarre attack.
- 9:28Speaker 1: And attack What are we talking like? Did someone try
- 9:30to silence him that quiet? Or was it connected to
- 9:34the allegations against him, maybe some kind of revenge plot?
- 9:37Speaker 2: No, no, it's what's much stranger than that.
- 9:40Speaker 1: Okay, now I'm really intrigued. What happened?
- 9:42Speaker 2: So, according to Rossi, while he was in the hospital
- 9:45in Scotland, Okay, someone came into his room and.
- 9:48Speaker 1: Assaulted him, all right with what a weapon?
- 9:52Speaker 2: With a pineapple?
- 9:53Speaker 1: Wait? A pineapple like the fruit?
- 9:54Speaker 2: Yes, a pineapple?
- 9:55Speaker 1: And sorry, did you say he was attacked with a pineapple?
- 9:57Speaker 2: I did? He claimed the assailant used the spy he
- 10:00leaves to stab him.
- 10:01Speaker 1: I mean, I've heard of using a pineapple as a
- 10:04like a makeshift weapon, but to actually scab someone with it,
- 10:07it sounds ridiculous, right, it does, It really does.
- 10:10Speaker 2: But you know, we're talking about a guy who allegedly
- 10:14faked his own death. And created this whole new persona.
- 10:18Speaker 1: So I guess at this point nothing should.
- 10:19Speaker 2: Surprise us exactly, but the Pineapple attack, it's just it's
- 10:24another level of bizarre.
- 10:26Speaker 1: So what was the reaction to this claim? Did anyone
- 10:29believe him?
- 10:30Speaker 2: Well, as you can imagine, people were skeptical to say
- 10:34the least. The police investigated, but they couldn't find any
- 10:38evidence to support his story.
- 10:40Speaker 1: Like purity footage or witnesses.
- 10:42Speaker 2: Yeah, the Dayline episode actually shows footage from the hospital
- 10:46security cameras and there's no sign of anyone entering or
- 10:49leaving his room around the time of the alleged attack.
- 10:52Speaker 1: Oh so it's not just that his story sounds far fetched,
- 10:55but there's literally no proof to back it up.
- 10:57Speaker 2: Right, it's just his word against well against reality based.
- 11:00Speaker 1: So do you think he really thought he could get
- 11:02away with those or was he just grasping at straws.
- 11:05Speaker 2: It's hard to say what his motivation was.
- 11:07Speaker 1: Maybe he thought it would make him look like a victim.
- 11:09Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe he was trying to garner some sympathy or
- 11:12cast doubt on those other allegaies like oh.
- 11:14Speaker 1: Look at me, I'm being targeted and harassed.
- 11:17Speaker 2: But to be Honest, it seems more like a desperate
- 11:19attempt to deflect attention from the mounting evidence against him.
- 11:23Speaker 1: So this pineapple incident it's not helping his case.
- 11:27Speaker 2: Not at all. It just adds another layer of absurdity
- 11:29to this whole thing.
- 11:30Speaker 1: It really does. It's like, what's next?
- 11:32Speaker 2: Yeah, where do you even go from a pineapple attack? Hmmmm?
- 11:36Speaker 1: So after all the twists and turns, the fake death,
- 11:40the new identity, the tattoos, Mary's testimony, and now this
- 11:44pineapple incident, where does Rossi stand now?
- 11:47Speaker 2: Well? As the Dayline episode concludes, he's back in the
- 11:49United States.
- 11:50Speaker 1: Oh so they finally extradited him.
- 11:52Speaker 2: Yep, he's awaiting trial.
- 11:53Speaker 1: And those charges against him they're pretty serious, right.
- 11:56Speaker 2: Yeah, with all the evidence that's come to light, it's
- 11:58looking pretty likely that he'll be facing some consequences for
- 12:01his actions.
- 12:02Speaker 1: I guess you could say it's a kind of poetic justice.
- 12:05How so well he went to such extreme lengths to
- 12:08escape accountability, you know, faked his own death, created this
- 12:12whole new life. And yet and yet it's those seemingly
- 12:15small details that might bring him down.
- 12:17Speaker 2: The tattoos, the phone calls, even a pineapple.
- 12:20Speaker 1: It's like something out of a Oh, it's just unbelievable.
- 12:24Speaker 2: It's a reminder that the truth has a way of
- 12:27coming out no matter how hard you try to hide.
- 12:30Speaker 1: It, and in Rossi's case, it seems like the truth
- 12:32was hiding in plain sight all along.
- 12:33Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes the most obvious clues are the ones we overlook.
- 12:37Speaker 1: Well, this has been a wild ride, to say the least.
- 12:40Speaker 2: Definitely a case he'll stick with you.
- 12:41Speaker 1: If you're interested in learning more, check out that Dateline
- 12:45episode The Man of Many Faces.
- 12:47Speaker 2: You'll get to hear from the people involved, see the
- 12:49evidence firsthand.
- 12:50Speaker 1: It's a really captivating story, and it raises some interesting
- 12:53questions about identity deception and the lengths people will go
- 12:57to to escape their past.
- 13:00Speaker 2: That reality can be stranger than fiction, that's for sure.
- 13:03Speaker 1: All Right, Well, that's it for our deep dive into
- 13:05the baffling world of Nicholas Rossi, or should we say
- 13:08Arthur Knight, or maybe even the pineapple stapping victim.
- 13:12Speaker 2: Who knows what other identities he has up his sleeve.
- 13:15Speaker 1: Until next time, stay curious, stay informed, and remember sometimes
- 13:20the most outlandish stories are the ones ripped straight from
- 13:23the headlines.
- 13:24Speaker 2: And as always, thanks for listening,