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A Sad Bookend: RHOBH Recap with Alexis Bellino · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
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  Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
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  Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. In
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  Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well, Rain Drives, Alexis Jansen and I are
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  Speaker 1: back to recap the I'll call this the pre season
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  Speaker 1: finale episode of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills because
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  Speaker 1: next Thursday is the season finale. I also think we're
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  Speaker 1: getting a three part reunion as well. But anyways, range ladies, gentlemen,
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  Speaker 1: gays and bays give it up for Alexis Chance.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought when Jennifer Tilly jumped in the pool
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  Speaker 2: like that was the season finale. I'm like, this is
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  Speaker 2: the finale, and then the other kid.
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  Speaker 1: Point that is definitely like a finale sort of moment.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not.
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  Speaker 1: Guys.
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  Speaker 2: We have one more. Thank goodness, because it's so good
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  Speaker 2: you don't want it to end.
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  Speaker 1: No listen. We had a great time last week talking
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  Speaker 1: about the Erica versus Dreek conversation, and this episode spilled
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  Speaker 1: over because rachelso is having a birthday party, which, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, I get sort of like weirded out when
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  Speaker 1: people say they hate celebrating their birthdays because they get
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  Speaker 1: a year older, and I look at it differently. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: don't say that, because God is blessing you to be
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  Speaker 1: on earth for another Yeah, I get. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It's like cringey for me when people say that.
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  Speaker 2: Are you the kind of guy that celebrates your birthday? Well,
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  Speaker 2: you do because you go to I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: say where you go, but you do a I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to tell people to stop you. But like you
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  Speaker 2: do a Destiny one. You do a destination every year.
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  Speaker 2: I know, because you're gonna invite me one of the years,
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  Speaker 2: but you missed one of my main my wedding for
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  Speaker 2: your celebration. So you do celebrate your birthday every year.
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  Speaker 2: And see, I get weirded out when every year your
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  Speaker 2: single girlfriends or any of your girlfriends are just like
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  Speaker 2: I'm throwing a party for myself, and I'm like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: you're turning forty two. Like, I understand work, let's celebrate
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  Speaker 2: the decade, but like, why are you celebrating twenty nine?
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  Speaker 2: Why are you celebrating thirty one? I mean, I'm like
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  Speaker 2: the every birthday thing. I'm like, dude, I'm sorry. I
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  Speaker 2: I only do the big birthdays. And when my friends
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  Speaker 2: forced me to throw a birthday party, I know Rachel
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  Speaker 2: had to do it because they're filming. They wanted her to.
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  Speaker 1: Make filing well about it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like a thing. But I totally get
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  Speaker 2: where she's coming from, because I don't necessarily if I
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  Speaker 2: make it five years like that, you like thirty five,
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  Speaker 2: I'm happy, make it forty five, I'm happy. But then
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  Speaker 2: when you make the decade, you're like, whoa, yeah, now
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  Speaker 2: we need to throw a bash, and we're talking a bash.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, though, what do you think of that?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Her party was great? I mean she looked gorgeous, The
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  Speaker 1: party was great. Everybody was not in the best mood
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  Speaker 1: because it was the first time they're seeing each other
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  Speaker 1: as his being back from Italy, and you know, they're
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  Speaker 1: trying to like have a small talk, which you know
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  Speaker 1: is super weird, and you know, we'll get into what
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  Speaker 1: happened when Sutton is trying to, you know, talk to
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  Speaker 1: Deret about how.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't wait to talk to you about this. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: give me your what do you feel about the whole
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  Speaker 2: Dereit Sutton convo.
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  Speaker 1: So this is it? Okay, so someting is like, look,
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  Speaker 1: let me talk to the read. I didn't like how
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  Speaker 1: things went in Italy when you know, dere was told
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  Speaker 1: by Kyle Onmerica that I said she could end Kyle,
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  Speaker 1: which flashback showed Durit never said those words. She never said,
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  Speaker 1: and she said I have information that would make Kyle
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  Speaker 1: piss if I ever revealed it, right, which is different
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  Speaker 1: than ending somebody. Ending somebody is like a thread. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't think Derrey was trying to threat, and I
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  Speaker 1: think she was just trying to say, look, I also
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  Speaker 1: know things too, and that could make Kyle upset. So listen.
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  Speaker 1: Sutton wanted to talk to Deriat about that to make
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  Speaker 1: sure they're fine, because they didn't make a pack to
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  Speaker 1: like really work on their friendship. And what was so
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  Speaker 1: interesting was Dread was dismissed up from the beginning. The
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  Speaker 1: look she gave her, She's sort of like, why are
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  Speaker 1: you bringing this up? And so it was like, I
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  Speaker 1: just want to talk to you about it, and Duri
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  Speaker 1: did not want to hear it. And I thought, I
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  Speaker 1: thought Durit was being an asshole to Sutton. And I
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  Speaker 1: think Durreitt was an asshole this entire episode starting with Sutton.
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  Speaker 1: And I will give Sudden her props for trying to
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  Speaker 1: at least initiate the conversation of Look. She started off
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  Speaker 1: by saying, you should start to Kyle, and Derey's like, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: want to. And then when Rachel comes over, like what
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  Speaker 1: do you what are you guys talking about? She completely
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  Speaker 1: dismisses something like she wasn't there. And I thought, Rachel,
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  Speaker 1: who I love too, But I thought, listen, Rachel has
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  Speaker 1: chosen a side. And when Rachel grabbed some and said
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  Speaker 1: let's go over here, I mean grab Durit excuse me
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  Speaker 1: and said let's go over here, that was a slap
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  Speaker 1: to the face of Sun. Well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't want to call the a word,
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  Speaker 2: but I did. I was discouraged by I didn't like it.
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  Speaker 2: I thought, I thought Durit went into that party like completely,
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  Speaker 2: like with armor from head to toe going. No one's
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  Speaker 2: going to even say one word to me about anything
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  Speaker 2: serious or I'm just gonna tell them to go away.
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  Speaker 2: And that is exactly what Durit did. She did not
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  Speaker 2: want anything to do about anything serious. And I just
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  Speaker 2: got an ick feeling. I got like, I got a
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  Speaker 2: nick feeling from the whole thing. And when Sutton was
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  Speaker 2: tearing up with Kyle when they went walked in the
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  Speaker 2: room with Kyle and Kathy and they walked into the
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  Speaker 2: fireplace room and had a moment because Kyle's like, don't
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  Speaker 2: leave the party, come inside for a second. Kyle got
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  Speaker 2: Sutton back around and said okay, and then Sutton had
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  Speaker 2: the nerve and the got the the energy to go
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  Speaker 2: and have a second talk with Durit. I thought I
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  Speaker 2: respected that. I thought that was very cool. She put
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  Speaker 2: her feelings aside, even though she's going through crap right
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  Speaker 2: now too. And she went and found Durite again and
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  Speaker 2: tried to talk to her, and again Durite squashed her.
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  Speaker 2: So for me, it feels like, first of all, again
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to reiterate what I said last episode that
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  Speaker 2: you and I rehashed this podcast this Beverly Hills. I
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  Speaker 2: feel as if Dori is not having empathy for one
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  Speaker 2: other human on that show because Sutton got tears in
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  Speaker 2: her eyes that fast with Kyle saying, I just dropped
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  Speaker 2: my baby off at school. I'm an empty nester now.
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  Speaker 2: It is lonely. I'm only one kid down right now,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm already lonely from having one kid go off.
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  Speaker 2: Now she's an empty nester in this huge house. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, people have to take account that all of
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  Speaker 2: the women on Beverly Hills right now are going through something?
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  Speaker 2: Is am I wrong? Or is there one woman on
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  Speaker 2: that show right now not going through the thick of it?
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  Speaker 2: Go through on Carlos, They're all going through something. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: pretty massive, but yeah, it's the only one that seems
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  Speaker 2: like it's like, oh, the world's about me and it's
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  Speaker 2: all about me, and I'm the only one hurting. No, honey,
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  Speaker 2: every single woman on that show right now is going
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  Speaker 2: through the mud.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, that's the reason why I'm sorry. Go ahead, like
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No, that's okay, I just said.
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  Speaker 2: That's where I get frustrated.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, I get frustrated because, look, first of all, Deree
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  Speaker 1: does act like she's the only human in the world
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  Speaker 1: that is going through something. And that's why I did
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  Speaker 1: appreciate when Erica Jane, I believe she was telling Rachel
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  Speaker 1: so this when Erica told Rachel like, look, yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: was Rachel when she said Pique is determined to make
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  Speaker 1: this divorce hell for Deret.
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  Speaker 2: Do you okay back pause there, sorry to interrupt you.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think that or do you think yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: do think that.
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  Speaker 1: I think you think.
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  Speaker 2: He's just or do you think because I'm sorry, divorces
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  Speaker 2: just go this way. Sometimes it's not it's not that
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  Speaker 2: either person's trying to do that, it's just emotions get
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  Speaker 2: involved and sometimes they just go that way. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I can't decide if I think PK's really being the
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  Speaker 2: bad guy.
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  Speaker 1: I just no, no, no, I think and listen and rain
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  Speaker 1: Jobs telling me and a lectionis what you think? I
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  Speaker 1: do think this. I think PK is not going to
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  Speaker 1: make it easy for her. Do I believe that? Yes?
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  Speaker 1: I've said this for years, And that's why when people
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  Speaker 1: say you don't like Derey, I actually like Derey and
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  Speaker 1: I can have an opinion based on her behavior on
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  Speaker 1: the show. I don't talk about Derey and what she
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  Speaker 1: does from her in her life outside of the TV
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  Speaker 1: show because I don't give a care about that right.
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  Speaker 1: I've always said that PK resents Dereet because he invested
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  Speaker 1: money and time into her being a housewife, because he
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  Speaker 1: encouraged her to do the casting tape, got her to
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  Speaker 1: be friends with Lisa Vanda Pump, and that's why when
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  Speaker 1: her Lisa Vanda Pump fell out, p K knew, Wow,
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  Speaker 1: you're falling out with the woman that helped us get
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  Speaker 1: on the show. And Derey has never had a successful
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  Speaker 1: business courtesy of the show. Beverly beach By der flopped
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  Speaker 1: her designing restaurants, flop, her wedding dress line, flop, de
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  Speaker 1: Read's book covers even flopping because it's how dreadful. A
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  Speaker 1: fashion show with no fashion is a book cover with
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  Speaker 1: no books, right, So PK does resent her, and I
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  Speaker 1: do think that PK isn't going to make this easier
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  Speaker 1: for her. But I also don't believe right that deiy
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  Speaker 1: is making it easier for a PK when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to the children. So I think two things can be true.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So go back to the book cover thing, and
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  Speaker 2: then I want to and then I want to read, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: the book thing because you said something that caught me, okay,
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  Speaker 2: And I don't understand why everyone's got older panties in
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  Speaker 2: a bunch right now because she has a book coming.
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  Speaker 2: The publisher was there. It's just not out yet, it's
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  Speaker 2: just not completely done. So why is it such a
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  Speaker 2: big deal that she It's like, so you make the
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  Speaker 2: icy before you have the cake out of the oven.
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  Speaker 2: Your cake's coming out of the oven, and then you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna let it cool and then you're gonna put the
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  Speaker 2: icing on, but you already made the icing. It's like,
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  Speaker 2: that's what I feel like, everyone's making a big deal about.
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  Speaker 2: Who cares she has a book coming. She did the
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  Speaker 2: cover of the book, and the book's not completely published
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  Speaker 2: and got the PA the hard back cover on it.
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  Speaker 2: But the book is coming. Why does it matter that
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  Speaker 2: the icing was made before the cake was out of
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  Speaker 2: the oven. I don't get why everyone's making such a
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  Speaker 2: big stink about it. I would. I think it's fine.
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  Speaker 2: So because we're filming right now, and we have this
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  Speaker 2: small window and the book's not going to actually be
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  Speaker 2: completely done until after the filming's done or the sequence
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  Speaker 2: of the way that she's going, we want to throw
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  Speaker 2: a big party and celebrate her books, so let's do
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  Speaker 2: it for the cover. The cover's amazing. It takes a
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  Speaker 2: lot of time and effort to put the cover together
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  Speaker 2: and a lot of thought goes into it. So for me,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not with America on the fact that they're making
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  Speaker 2: a big deal about her doing the book cover party
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  Speaker 2: before the book's done, because the book is coming, or
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  Speaker 2: the publishers wouldn't have been there and they wouldn't have
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  Speaker 2: done a cover.
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  Speaker 1: And guess what. And this is where I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: defend theory as a producer. Alexis is right. Is it
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  Speaker 1: a oxymoron? Yes, it is. And it's also why Charai
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  Speaker 1: Whitfield got dragged season one when she had a fashion
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  Speaker 1: show with no fashions for she by Chara, Because during
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  Speaker 1: the time of production, when you are when your storyline
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  Speaker 1: is a business and you know this Alexis being a
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  Speaker 1: reality star, you better make sure if you are going
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  Speaker 1: to have your storyline your business, you better have a beginning,
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  Speaker 1: a middle, and an end within the production window, right,
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  Speaker 1: And that's why Chara had no fashions season one because
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  Speaker 1: she wasn't ready to have it within the time of
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  Speaker 1: the production window. Dre's book wasn't ready in the time
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  Speaker 1: of the production window. But Dere also knew in order
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  Speaker 1: for people to buy this book once it airs, I
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  Speaker 1: have to keep talking about it and I have to
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  Speaker 1: throw this party. Now, what I would have done if
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  Speaker 1: I was Dere's publisher or even read and maybe p
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  Speaker 1: K would have thought about this, because PK was I'm
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  Speaker 1: not gonna say the brains behind the operation, but PK
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  Speaker 1: was the businessman. I would have had a makeshift book
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  Speaker 1: cover that I would have help. That is easy to do.
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  Speaker 1: My nephew who is angers, Oh, can do this at
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  Speaker 1: Michael's or at Stapole's office depot okay, And I would
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  Speaker 1: have had the cover in a book and inside would
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  Speaker 1: have been loose Lea's paper and I would have read
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  Speaker 1: excerpts from it printed out on my Xerox printer.
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  Speaker 2: How't do that? How do we know they didn't do that, Carlos.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they just didn't air that.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe we'll see, We'll see next week. We'll see next week.
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  Speaker 1: But my point is I would have never called it
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  Speaker 1: a cover reveil because if this is where I'm also
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  Speaker 1: on the audience side too, because I can see things
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  Speaker 1: both ways. Who give two ships about a cover reveil?
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  Speaker 1: Post that bitch on fucking Instagram? And if we can
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  Speaker 1: see it in double tap it. I'm not here to
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  Speaker 1: see a fellowshoe of you posing like right, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean. I don't need to see idiot. I
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  Speaker 1: gotta see all that. Girl, Give me the book. In
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  Speaker 1: the words of Dan Yell, stop the book, the book,
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  Speaker 1: the book, the book talk without a bad schottiere without
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  Speaker 1: a book. So the think for me is this, I
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  Speaker 1: understand the joke, but I also will give Deed's defense.
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  Speaker 1: And she had to deal with in the production window.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's what I think. That's why
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  Speaker 2: she's getting so beat up as people don't understand. I
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  Speaker 2: understood it because obviously I've been on there and I
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  Speaker 2: did have a dress line, and I did have my
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  Speaker 2: dress some of my dresses, but when we did that
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  Speaker 2: big fashion show for my dress line, I didn't have
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  Speaker 2: all of them produced yet. They were in production. But
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  Speaker 2: so I get the production window and that you have
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  Speaker 2: to you know, they want to make it your storyline.
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  Speaker 2: And I think did a great job because it is
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  Speaker 2: promoting her book. And I know you're not going to
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  Speaker 2: buy the book, but I probably am, and I probably
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  Speaker 2: am going to read it because I want to hear
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  Speaker 2: what she has to say, I'm sorry I do. But okay,
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  Speaker 2: So now going back, let's go back to the second
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  Speaker 2: part of what you were talking about in the book comment.
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  Speaker 2: But you said you think Pete Hay is not making
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  Speaker 2: it harder for her, but he's not making it easy.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of thing is where you feel, Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 2: it hard or easy about visiting the kids. You're right,
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  Speaker 2: You're right. Of them are friends going kumbaya, Let's get
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  Speaker 2: this done. They're both being a little bit of a
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  Speaker 2: booger in their own way.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and and and that's what it is. And that's
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  Speaker 1: why I agree with Erica with that. So again, going
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  Speaker 1: back to the party, Bill Alexis, when Sutton was encouraged
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  Speaker 1: by Kyle Force Multiplier, executive producer of the Real Housewives
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  Speaker 1: and Biley Hills Richards, Kyle, Okay, her name is Kyle Force,
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  Speaker 1: multiply your executive producer of The Raal Housewis and Billy Hills.
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  Speaker 1: Richard's okay. When she told something go back out there
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  Speaker 1: and talk to her. I'm like, Kyle, you are a
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  Speaker 1: producer's dream. I just I love how she knows how
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  Speaker 1: to move straightforward. And my favorite part, Listen, Durie is
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  Speaker 1: such an egg hole this whole episode when she's talking
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  Speaker 1: to this random woman and something comes up to her
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  Speaker 1: and she looks up and down and looked at the
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  Speaker 1: woman she was talking to. Was like what she say,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna kill her after this, yes, And
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  Speaker 1: the Sun is like, really, you're gonna kill me after this?
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  Speaker 1: And she's like, what do you want? And she tells
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  Speaker 1: her I didn't like how you were dismiss it towards
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  Speaker 1: me with the Rachel thing, oh you know a few
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  Speaker 1: minutes ago, and there goes if you felt that way,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: And then she's like, bye, Mike.
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  Speaker 1: But the apology, though Alexis wasn't. Well, let me ask
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  Speaker 1: you before I assume, did you think Dere's apology was
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  Speaker 1: even Sincere?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think Dured has anything Sincere about her this season.
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  Speaker 2: She's got such a wall up and she's so hurt.
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  Speaker 2: Like I told you, she has zero empathy, zero empathy
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  Speaker 2: for anyone else on that cast of what they're going through.
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  Speaker 2: So no, I don't think she has the empathy to
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  Speaker 2: also say an apology that's that's honest. But I do
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  Speaker 2: think it's not because it's door Reat. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: this is the real I don't think Dorrit really is
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  Speaker 2: a non caring, non empathetic cuman. I think Gurita is
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  Speaker 2: at such a low place. I've said this from preached
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  Speaker 2: it from day one on it we first started this podcast.
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  Speaker 2: I think she's in such a low her emotion tank
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  Speaker 2: is completely empty, and the only thing she can survive
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: on is getting emotions and good feelings from other people.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: That's why she is squashing anyone and everyone that comes
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: in her path that's in a negative vibe. She doesn't
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: have anything her you know. I think Vicky Gumbelson said
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: it on one of her episodes her love tank was
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: empty and she needed to fill up her love tank. Well, there,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: emotion tank is empty. She has no emotion because she
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: is a skeleton of herself right now, because she's so
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: broken and once, like, once she gets past this season,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: I really feel like in a season or two she
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: rewatches this, I think she's gonna be like, holy heck,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: was that really mean? Because if I had been filming
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: when my mom was dying, was dying and I was
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: just not myself and my poor children how to put
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: up with that, if I'd been filming, then I would
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: have looked back on me then and gone, God, I
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: really did act like that. That really was me. But
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: it wasn't me. It was a shell of me because
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: I was just putting one foot in front of the
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: other to get through the day. I was getting through
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: the day. That's how I feel Durina is doing. And
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: you know, God bless her soul. She's filming a reality show.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: So yeah, all the while.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: So you know, I do have empathy for her still,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: and I do think she's a good human deep down.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: I just think she's really having an off season. I
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: said the same one.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And listen, my heart goes out to any woman
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: going through a divorce that's on reality show because it
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: is hard to deal with that emotionally. I dealt it
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: with Nini Lee's when she was divorced seeing Greg May
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: he rest in peace. And I said this story before
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: in front of Ninie, so I'm not telling Yennie secrets.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: But but Nini was emotionally just in a different place,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: and as a producer I didn't understand it. And it
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: took a female producer to say to me, she needs
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: some time to herself, like the Nini who would rush
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: to a scene and give you everything, like she's going
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: through a divorce from a man she was married to
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: for almost twenty years. Like, give her some grace. And
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: that's why I will give Durreit some grace. The lateness
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: has been her prior to the war, so she gets
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: no grace from me there. But her behavior is as
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: whole ish and you know the way she told you know, but.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Byye, I know, and they call her weirdo. Okay, but
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: bye and then weirdo that was her like hold but see,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like the women did give her
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: a little bit of grace at the beginning of this season.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: I really do think that they were like, Okay, you know,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: she's going through a lot this and that. Even though
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: they were chattering behind her back, I do feel like
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: they gave her a little bit of grace. I think
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: now they're just like like when Sutton said she has
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: lost her mind, she is out of her mind. It's true.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Like that's the thing I'm saying to the women. It's like,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: you gotta just leave her alone and let her she does,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: you know, Erica Jane said, up perfectly, she goes. You know,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna give dreat some space. I'm gonna have
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: my space over here, so that I can decide if
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: this friendship's worth they're not, but I'm gonna give her
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: her space over there. That's exactly what everyone should do.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Durit just needs space or a yes friend right now.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: She cannot have a friend who's trying to call her out.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: She cannot have a friend trying to correct her wrongs.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: She's going to correct her wrongs when her healing process starts.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Her healing process has not even started yet. She is
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: still in the thick of her horrible, you know, devastating life,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: and it's gonna build back up, like you know, this
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: too shall pass. It's true. I never thought I was
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: going to get out of the cloud of my mom
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: or my divorce, like I've been in there around twice now,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: in a very dark, dark, dark dark place like Dorrit.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: So you don't think you're gonna make it when you
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: think that's your forever. Time does heal and you somewhat.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: I mean I still cry over my mom all the
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: time and my divorce, but it's like it's like you,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: you do get strong again and your your true colors
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: do come back. It's just she's in black and white
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree with that. And listen. One
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: of the best parts about the episode was Jennifer Tilly
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: jumping in the pool. Like we said, but number two
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: is Natalie did something that's memorable and she did a
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: split and the words of Claudia Jordan baf flap, Natalie,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: that was the most interesting thing you have done all season. Congratulations,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: happy birthday.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: I love when Jennifer goes. Jennifer Tillity goes. Well, she
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: earned every single dollar of that divorce, got the moment
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: she got.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Do you want to know how much she got from
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: her divorce?
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Well, of course.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: You actually googled that.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Let's go, baby, I'm ready.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, you ready for this? Okay, here we go. All right, Alexis,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: hold on to your is that Luba tom baseball cap?
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Did she beat this a baseball cap? Did she beat
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Jennifer Tilly or no, no one's beating Did she beat something?
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Jennifer Tilly gets a piece of as Simpsons, No one's
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: beating Jennifer Tilly. And remember Sun gets three hundred and
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars a year.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Well, I know that's not a year.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: A month, I'm sorry month a month?
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, did she beat did she beat. That's five million,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: around five million a year, by the way, people, In
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: case anyone wants to know, so, did she beat either
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: of them? Yep, I'm ready.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Natalie Fuller file for divorced from American Idol creator Simon
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Fuller in May of twenty twenty five after sixteen years
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: of marriage, signing a reconcilable differences. The divorce involves a
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: prenuptial agreement and bowles over spousal support, with reports speculating
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: a potential settlement of two hundred and fifty million dollars.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Oh oh, snap, she might have beat. No, Sutton gets
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: three hundred fifty thousand for the rest of her life,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: five million times. Even so, she might have beat, she
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: might Natalie Simon.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Is no, she didn't be. So the thing is this
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: son's husband is a billionaire allegedly Simon Fuller allegedly is
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: worth six hundred million dollars, and allegedly the settlement is
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: between two hundred and two hundred and fifty Their divorce
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: isn't final yet.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Why would a man? Why would a man put in
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: a prenup but she gets a third of his net worth?
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Well, the thing is this. The thing is listen it's
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: not final. I think she is challenging the prina. That's
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: the thing. That's the thing. So and again, these are
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: the thing that makes this is what I say about
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: reality stars who are joining these shows. You could be
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: interesting on paper, but sometimes does to translate for the show.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Natalie is not a reality star. She's good on paper,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: and that's where it begins and that's where it ends. Okay,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just calling.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Like you don't think Okay, hold on, you don't think
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: that she would make it like they did gave her
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: kind of a friend. I mean, she's not really a
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: friend of it. They gave her a lot.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Of She's an a friend, not a friend of.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: She's a friend. Okay. So you don't think that they
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: would ever offer her a role because you think she's
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: too boring. Even doing the splits, she's too boring.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: I will bet the Colin does the splits. Okay, I
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: said Natalie brought nothing to the show. What happened was this?
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: They she was good on paper. I'm sure she gave
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: it to her casting tape and the moment she was
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: thrown to the trenches, nothing was there. And I'm pretty
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: sure of your year of oc. There were tons of
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: women that were going to be an orange holder and
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: they got in the mix and they felt flat. It
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: happened Natalie felt flat, And it's hard to edit her
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: out because she's there.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I guess where I think I mean
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: to splits her in action and that was I guess
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: where I the words is where she's not. I mean,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: housewives have to be witty. Houseways have to stand on
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: their feet and be like, boom that line that is funny,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: or give that line that punches, or give that line
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: you know, and it's it's it's honestly something you can't
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: like practice. It's just you either have it or you don't.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: And I guess I feel for Natalie. She doesn't have
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: that zinger, that that like that oomph, that a lot
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: of that you know that makes her totally unique and
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: sets her apart and gives her that that punchline, you
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: know kind of thing. So I don't know, that's kind
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: of where I feel like, maybe they wouldn't ask her
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: to have a role, but I still think she's enough
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: of a personality to be in the background like she is, Like.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me, Natalie?
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: You don't think she deserves to have the little bit
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: of a role she has now.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: She doesn't even deserve to hold my ballet ticket, let alone.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Arlows, are you in a bad mood today?
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Not why are you so mean to Natalie? Did you
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: not get your red bull this morning? Or something like
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: why are you picking on her?
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: She does a decent.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Enough job to have a place at the dinner table
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: where she can do the splits. Or what's the other
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: thing she did? She did one other funny thing she
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: talked about. She wore lingerie to a dinner party. So, okay,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: so she's got enough kick. She wore lingerie to the
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: dinner party. Okay, so we all got to see every
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: curvature and every every ounce of her, every crevice of
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: her body.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: However, hell girl, I'd rather see Joyce come back. She's
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: a Season three Housewives. I'd rather see Carlton. I would
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: rather see I don't rather see kN Lee. I would
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: rather see old assistant.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, sorry, Natalie. I just want you to know
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: I'm speaking to you. If you listen to this or
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: watch I am not on Carlos Society. He is not
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: my friend at the moment. I associate at the moment,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: and we look back to friendships after this episode.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: And all is fair and love and war. Okay, we
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: will leave it at that, So listen when it comes
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: to the party. The party was a bus in the
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: sense of the girls were awkward towards each other. They
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: didn't Colin Dey did not speak, Doread and Erica did
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: not speak. So that was the end of it. Now,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Sutton had a FaceTime conversation with her mom. Sutton, this
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: is my advice to you clean your screen. You are
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: shooting a FaceTime on your laptop. Oh the fingerprints on
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: the screen bottom.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: Harloms.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I never saw it. All I could think about is
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: how cute her mom is. I'm like, I started missing
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: my mom so much at that moment. I got tears
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: of my eyes. I'm like, I don't get people on
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: my mom and have discoversation. Her mom was so freaking cute.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: I want to bottle her up and bring her to Newport.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: I love that mom. I'm like, can I just have
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: a phone a FaceTime with her? Oh, there could have
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: been a donkey walked by and I wouldn't have noticed
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: the donkey.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Because all I'm saying is that's not clean. The window,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: I mean the screen, but I digress. Okay, the enthrow
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: shape at Durbit's party and this is why. Now this
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: is a sting that I've been missing all season, she says,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: is pretty much a photo shoot release party because she
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: is launching a book party with Notebook. I know.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: See, I don't agree with everyone. I'm the icinger that
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: pour the cakes out of the oven. I'm I think
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: everyone's just trying to find something to bitch about, complain about.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Ah No, The thing for me was that is a
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: something that I've been missing, the one that has to
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: kick and the one that that because Suton is amazing
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: at throwing shade, her mother is throwing shade. I heard
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: throughout this entire conversation. She's pretty much on the each side.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: When Sunn's like, look, I try to talk to her.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Can you believe she did this to me? And sounds
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: like in my shallow and her mom's like, yeah you
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: are actually like yeah you are, you are, but that
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: is their relationship.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: But then something's like, mom, I don't want to go.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I don't want to go to her party, and her
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: mom's like, well, then don't go, honey, don't go.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: So I don't know.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Her mom is like both It's like it's like, yeah,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: throwing sad shade on Sutton. But then at the same time,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: like I never don't go to her party.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: You don't have to go, yeah, And what was funny
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: about that to me was how you got three different
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: perspectives of these women as relates to going to Sun's
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: book party. Son talk. I mean, there's book party. Son
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: talks to her mother. Her mother's like if you don't
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: go these don't go if you don't feel like it.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: And then the diva I'm filming the Diver.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Prince just went off to and you couldn't hear me.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: He was he was barking at the neighbor, yes, and training,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: He's gonna he's gonna lose a treat from that today.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: He gets one less treat today.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: And I was gonna grab her, but she doesn't want
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: to be grabbed, Okay. So then you see Kyle talk
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: to her assistant about it, and Kyle's like, I'm not coming.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: And then you see Erica and Rachel Zel talk about it,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: and I was I believe that Erica Jane was fifty
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: to fifty on this. You know at the time that
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: she filmed with Rachel Zel because Rachel so I was like,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: if you if you don't show up, she'll never forgive you, Kyle,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: She'll get it something whatever. And Erica was like, I know,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: and Rachel's like, I think you have to like at
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: least text her, and Erica's like, yeah, you're right, Rachel. Whatever.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: My favorite part of this scene though, was when Erica
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: is talking to Rachel about you know, when a woman
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: goes through a divorce, the first thing she thinks about
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: is money, and Rachel said, honey is honey, that is
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: not my story. And I said, Rachel's like, one thing
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I ain't gotta worry about, it's money. And she went
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: on a tangent and said, baby, I'm self made. These
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: are your problems. This ain't mine. And I was like,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: did you catch that throw?
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Alexis's dead? And I was like, dang it, you're right.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: So I shouldn't equit my career when my first husband
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: told me for him, You're right, Rachel, I should have
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: just done my own thing to Shay Lesson learned here
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: I am now doing it backwards. Rachel. Okay, I I
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: I got the memo. Rage should have taken your course
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: before I got married anyway. But you know, okay, I
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: want to ask you would if you were in Erica's position,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: would you have not gone like she did? Because the Okay,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: we've had three cliffhangers in a row on this the season.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Last week was a cliffhanger for the party. This week's
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: the cliffhanger for for Erica showing up at Sutton's house.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Would you have not gone or would you have gone
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: if you were Erica. Don't talk about Kyle or Sutton
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Erica's position.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: No, you can't. You can't call me a seat next
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Tuesday and expect me to show up for you without
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: us having a conversation. Amen, I I'm not. I'm not
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: showing up. Especially listen, this is my opinion. If I
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: thought it was something that was a milestone in your life,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: like your wedding or you know, your child's first birthday party,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: and I have a child, and i'm you know, like
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: things like that, going to your book party with no book,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't show up to it either, And I think Erica,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: we got to remember this. Erica cried after their spat.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Right, dere it dug it dug into Erica's heart. Dereats
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: conversation with her at that table dug into Erica, and
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Erica is very stoic and does not show emotion, and
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: it crushed her. So yeah, I wanted to hear what
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: you had to say because I agree. I would probably
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: not have gone unless unless Durita had called me and said,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry for our discussion at the dinner table.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I love you.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Let's let's have another combo and get this figured out
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: then possibly, but yeah, nothing happened, so.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Nothing and the thing and we got the guys. We
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: have to remember this, Dart said in last week's episode,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Bowse has been there for me than all of you combined.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry if that's how you feel. You don't ever
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: have to speak to.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Me two seasons of Bose only being on for two seasons,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: but you have a whole ten years or a decade
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: with all these other women, and you're saying someone after
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: two seasons on a TV show which now has more
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: under the belt than than the rest of you.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, like we were there for you and
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: your house got robbed. We were there for you when
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: you were going through all your situations with PK. We
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: were there for you blocking the cameras when you guys
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: were on the on a on on a beach somewhere
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: out the country filming, and this this man's wife was
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: verbally attacking you, saying you and pk Oh her husband money.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: You know we were there for you. Then. Yeah, But
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: because Bowse has a on the show for two seasons
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: and is doing her job, and listen, I'm not saying
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: that Bose and Deari's frenship isn't genuine. But what I
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: do find interesting is Bose did say Alexis in an interview,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: if she would have met Durit like five years ago,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: she's not sure they would be friends. Bose.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on. Bose said that if she had
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: met Durek five years ago, Bose is not sure Bose
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: and Darite would be friends.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's not friendship. She's not sure that she would
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: be friends with her.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I don't remember hearing that on this episode.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: But no, no, no, no, no, no. She said it's in
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: an interview. Oh in the press.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, in the press, okay, not on the show.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Not on the show, no, okay.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: And my point is, yeah, if that's how she feels, right,
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: then this these women were your friends, those years ago.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Bose just met you, both met you post p que.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: These women were there for you through all the shit
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: you went through with p K. And if I'm Erica
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: and we could fast forward towards what happened, and I
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: thought it was a great cliffhanger when it's like, don't
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: do don't don dun and the door opens and Erica
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: shows up, I wouldn't have gone either. And I will
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: say this as well. Let's be clear, I thought they
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: were doing Sutton and Kyle and Erica of favor by
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: making sure before that episode ended they played Sutton's bite saying,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: I promise you we did not plan this.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: This looks bad, this looks bad, but none of us
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: knew the other one wasn't going.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Did you feel like that was like playing to the
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: hands of the audience.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: I think it was. I think it was trying to
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: show they wanted to make sure that Sutton, Kyle, and
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Erica are not massively hated by America. At that scene, yes,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent. They were like, let me give you
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: guys a little but here's the other thing, Carlos. I'm
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: glad to know that they didn't have it planned. I
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: thought for me as a viewer, like even if they
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: had had it planned. I mean, it's a TV show,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: so whatever I mean, And all of them, to be honest,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: they all three, in their own way, have a right
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: to say, Look, Dret you are not there for us.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: You do not care about the fact that Kyle's daughter
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: is getting married and Kyle's going through a divorce or separation,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: that she's down on her knees about. You do not
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: care that Sutton is an empty nester and hurting right now.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: And you then said, Erica Jane doesn't have any problems
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: at all, and he're like, what's wrong with your life?
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, hello, legal battle out the wazoo. My
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: husband was lying to me my whole time and went
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: to prison and is going to die in prison. I mean,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: all of these things are monumental, huge, horrible. The wedding's
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: very happy and good, but it's still monumental. And the
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: fact that Durit is just like, eh, my life is
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: way harder than any of these women's lives. It just
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: crushes me because I can put myself in each of
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: those women's shoes and say, Sutton is right. We can
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: all help each other, we can all be here to
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: help each other and so they each have a reason
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: not to go. But I was glad to hear the producers,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: you know that they put that SoundBite in you're right, yeah,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: and and.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: To me, that's the thing, and that's why for me,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: it's one of those things where I don't see how
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: they can how they can move past this. And de
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Read is somebody who holds a grudge, So the fact
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: that they didn't show up to something she deemed important.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Now I understand why Erica Jane did say they have
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: not spoken at all since the reunion because the reunion
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: they have to readdress it and obviously didn't go and
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: then go well, which is why Erica said, I haven't
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: spoken to her since. And it to me is it
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: is the end of it, and I just don't know
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: how they can get past this.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: So do you think, like I know, we saw one
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: more the Grand finale, and then we have three episodes
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: of there. I've heard that also that there's three reunions.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: See it might turn in into being two, but I
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: heard there. But do you think that you truly believe
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: that there is such a divide now that Sutton, Kyle
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: and Erica are never going to be able to mend
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: things with Derey. You truly think that because look at
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Tamara and VICKI. They went through two or three years
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: of not friendships, hating each other, going at each other
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: on the media, and now they are truly friends again.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: So do you think it's something time cannot heal?
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Oh? Yes, I think Tom can heal all wounds. I'm
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: a believer of that.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: You just meet this season. You don't see how the
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: reunion is going to mend anything.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I don't think. Listen, I don't think Kyla and Derrey
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: will ever trust each other again. I think I think
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Erica has a better chance of forgiving Dery than Kyle does.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: I think Kyle's like I see for who you are,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: and a part of me does feel this way because
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: the rain drops did say this. I do wonder sometimes
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: if Derey thought they were better friends than Kyle did.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I think Kyle enjoyed Deiy and their husband were friends
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: and by default you know this. You know this being
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: a wife. Sometimes when your husband is friends with the guy,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: by default you and the wife are friendly and you
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: guys talk a lot because the husbands are best friends.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: I think that was Kyle and Derey's relationship. I think
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: PK MARESI were extremely closed and Colin Derie were friends
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: based on we're both in the show, our husbands are
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: fond of each other. We have this one big thing
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: in common. But am I going to tell you you
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: my secrets. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: know that.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Wow, And see you've watched all the decade or however
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: long ago, yeah, or Leo's has been on and I
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: have not, So I'm speaking. I don't have the expertise
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: that you have, But just from watching this season thoroughly
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: and dissecting it, I don't feel that way. I feel
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: like they did have a true friendship. And I could
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: be wrong. Maybe i'd have to watch some of the
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: past ones. But even when they're doing all the flashbacks
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: and I see how Kyle and you reader are like,
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: you know, hugging and working through situations and I've got
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: your back and I'm here for you, sweetie, and I've
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: got you, it's like, I feel like they did have
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: a true friendship. It wasn't just one of those friendships
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: of because of the husband's being friends. So I feel
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: that over time, and I was right about I was
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: right about Kyle not wanting this divorce to go through.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: I told you this and you said, oh, that's it,
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: And I said, I said, there's a chance they could
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: come back together. I was right about that. Okay, still
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: up in the air about that.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: There's still there's still separate and Marie Sillble was called
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: with the woman last week continue from Love Island.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: That's okay. Marisa is still sowing his oats and doing
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: his bachelor thing. It's fine. There's no there's no ink
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: that's dried on the paper yet, Carlos, That's all I'm
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: gonna say.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: So.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: So I think that there is definitely a chance. Give
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: it a year. I do think they need a pause.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: I do think that they need one of them to
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: not be on the show, or if they are on
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: the show, they're not going to make up next year either.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: It's not going to be a next season thing. I
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: think it needs more time. But I do see how
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: if they got some time apart, some genuine time apart,
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: because honestly, Carlos, let's be real, when you stop filming
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: this show, like the reunion is going to end, there's
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: not a lot of downtime. If you're called back for
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: the next season, you start filming again within six months,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: so you don't even have enough time to decompress and
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: work through a lot of the stuff because then you're
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: right back in there filming again. So I think it
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: could take a couple of years. But I think that
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: there's a chance that Dart and Kyle could could find
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: their way back to being very good friends and that
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: this could only strengthen them in the long run.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Well, rain Drops, let us know what you think. Is
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Alexis onto something?
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Or is Carlos right right?
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Is Carlos are alexis delusional?
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Or both? So one thing, we will admit this episode
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: was good. It wasn't as great as last season, but
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: I'd expect it to be because when you go through
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: that episode last week was so crazy that this one.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Guess what the finale is going to be? Carlos, let's
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: rate it right now. Let's let's rate and see let's
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: let let's rate and have the rain Drops rate in
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: below today right now? What does everyone think the finale
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: is going to be? Is next week is going to
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: be a ten off the charts, one hundred and ten
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: off the charts or a two? Like where are we
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: going to be everybody. Everybody comment what do you think?
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: And then I'm going to tell you what I think.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: But on a scale of one to ten, I think
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: a seven point five.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: I think it's going to be an eleven.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: No fucking way I do. Why you know you have there's.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: All about No, I don't have any insider information at
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: this moment. Okay, look at it. Good as your here.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Let's text you later what I know. No, I'm kid, No,
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: I don't have any insider information. This is just going
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: with my gut. I think because there was so much
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: good stuff this whole season, which I know it was
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: a slow burn, but once we got to what episode
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: eight was it, I think it was that you and
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: I were.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Like, hallelujah, finally, yes.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Yes, I think it's going to be an eleven and
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: I cannot wait to hear what the rain drops think.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: So you're at a seven point five, I'm at eleven.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Let's see what the consensus is.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: All right, raindrops, let us know calling him up, Carlos,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: I will, I will tie them up and by next
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Friday I will give you the results. Okay, yep, all right,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: all right, well rain jobs, you know where to find us.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: We are back next week to discuss the season finale
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills with Alexi Janssen.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Have a good weekend, baby don I'll see you.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: By rain drops, Bye boo by.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership with The Lack
• 45:05
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• 45:09
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