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- 0:00Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
- 0:06Speaker 2: The Alexander Brothers, so called New Diddies, found guilty of
- 0:13Speaker 2: sex trafficking charges That could see the so called playboy brothers.
- 0:17Speaker 2: I call them rapists and sex traffickers. Others in the
- 0:21Speaker 2: media call them the playboy brothers. That's total bs. Could
- 0:25Speaker 2: see them behind bars for life where they belong. You
- 0:30Speaker 2: can get twenty to life for rape. How about multiple
- 0:32Speaker 2: rapes plus drugging the women. I'm Nancy Grace. This is
- 0:38Speaker 2: Crime Stories. I want to thank you for being with us.
- 0:41Speaker 2: I think about my daughter who is eighteen about to
- 0:44Speaker 2: go off to college. Some of these victims were very,
- 0:48Speaker 2: very young. And let me tell you, having dealt with
- 0:51Speaker 2: the rape victims my entire prosecutorial career, they're never the same. Yes,
- 0:58Speaker 2: they go on seem resilient, but it's never the same.
- 1:03Speaker 2: I know from being a victim of violent crime. You
- 1:06Speaker 2: go on, but you're never the same. It has changed
- 1:11Speaker 2: the way I see the world. It has changed the
- 1:14Speaker 2: course of my life, trajectory, everything, It changed the way
- 1:17Speaker 2: I raised my children, just everything. And it does the
- 1:22Speaker 2: same thing for these victims too. The Alexander Brothers, three
- 1:27Speaker 2: so called high flying multimillionaire siblings, I mean really now,
- 1:33Speaker 2: guilty of using all that money, all that prestige to
- 1:37Speaker 2: drug and rape multiple women. Tao Age thirty nine and
- 1:44Speaker 2: the twins or an A Lawn Alexander thirty eight, all
- 1:49Speaker 2: convicted ten counts by a jury of six men, six
- 1:54Speaker 2: women in federal court. Now, see this was tried in
- 1:57Speaker 2: federal court. So don't tell me certain cases cannot be
- 2:01Speaker 2: handled by the fenes, because they can, as in Sean
- 2:05Speaker 2: Puffy Combe's case. That case Diddy was tried in federal court.
- 2:09Speaker 2: I won't be happy until I see Ellen Greenberg her
- 2:12Speaker 2: murder tried in federal court. That said, let's stick with
- 2:15Speaker 2: the so called new didties. What was the case all about?
- 2:19Speaker 1: A trio of brothers, luxury real estate agents to the
- 2:23Speaker 1: super rich, indicted on federal sex trafficking and battery charges.
- 2:27Speaker 3: Claims go back more than.
- 2:29Speaker 2: A decade, claims going back more than a decade. Try
- 2:33Speaker 2: two decades. Now, forty women that we know h the
- 2:39Speaker 2: claiming these filth the rich real estate moguls took part
- 2:44Speaker 2: in rape after rape after systematic rape, and that the
- 2:48Speaker 2: allegations go back to when they were in high school.
- 2:54Speaker 2: All that money, all that privilege and education has bought
- 2:59Speaker 2: them a one way ticket to hell with a pitstop
- 3:03Speaker 2: and the federal penitentiary.
- 3:05Speaker 1: That's my prediction.
- 3:06Speaker 2: But I want you to hear what Damian Williams, the
- 3:09Speaker 2: US attorney, has to say.
- 3:10Speaker 4: The Alexander brothers and other men they planned the trips with,
- 3:13Speaker 4: paid for the flights or accommodations for the women on
- 3:15Speaker 4: these trips, and at times the defendants hand picked the
- 3:18Speaker 4: women to invite. At other times they used paid party
- 3:22Speaker 4: promoters to source women for them. The indictment also alleges
- 3:27Speaker 4: that in advance of these events, the Alexander brothers and
- 3:29Speaker 4: others procured drugs that they agreed to provide to the women,
- 3:33Speaker 4: including cocaine, mushrooms, and ghb as. We allege that these
- 3:38Speaker 4: drugs caused some of the women to be physically unable
- 3:41Speaker 4: to fight back or to escape.
- 3:43Speaker 2: Now you know why they're calling it the new didty
- 3:46Speaker 2: or should I say the new ditties. Now that's what
- 3:50Speaker 2: the US attorney is saying for the US attorney for
- 3:53Speaker 2: the Southern District.
- 3:54Speaker 1: But I want you to look at Orrin Alexander on
- 3:59Speaker 1: the having the ability to work with my brothers, have
- 4:03Speaker 1: a partner with your brother.
- 4:05Speaker 5: Now, just think about that for a second.
- 4:08Speaker 1: It's the biggest issue you have in partnership is the
- 4:10Speaker 1: trust and knowing that you don't have to worry. Honey,
- 4:14Speaker 1: you got something to worry about.
- 4:15Speaker 2: Now, what if your brother flips on you and testifies
- 4:18Speaker 2: against you.
- 4:19Speaker 1: Let's just analyze what we just heard. And that's where
- 4:21Speaker 1: our friends.
- 4:22Speaker 2: That from the founder on YouTube, that's or in Alexander
- 4:27Speaker 2: one of the and I mean filed the rich rolling
- 4:31Speaker 2: in money, that's or an Alexander quote. Having the ability
- 4:35Speaker 2: to work with my brother, to have a partner who's
- 4:38Speaker 2: your brother, you know, just think about that for a second.
- 4:41Speaker 1: Don't worry. I'm thinking about it.
- 4:43Speaker 2: The biggest issue you have in partnership is trust and
- 4:47Speaker 2: knowing you don't have to worry. Okay, what happened with me?
- 4:53Speaker 2: An All Star panel, Let's get to it straight out
- 4:56Speaker 2: to Christina Yo joining US national news anchor Salem News Channel.
- 5:01Speaker 1: Christina, thank you for being with us.
- 5:03Speaker 2: I'm really curious about how much money these two have.
- 5:07Speaker 1: And this goes all the way back.
- 5:09Speaker 2: Their family is wealthy, their grandfather wealthy, blah blah blah blah,
- 5:14Speaker 2: kind of like Luigi Manngioni just all that money to
- 5:17Speaker 2: silver spoons in the mouth, and yet this what happened, Christina.
- 5:22Speaker 6: You know, actually I think it started way back when
- 5:24Speaker 6: they were in high school. As people are now starting
- 5:27Speaker 6: to come out and say that they actually had a
- 5:28Speaker 6: sex fan that was parked in front of their parents
- 5:31Speaker 6: forty million dollar beachfront of state where the boys, the
- 5:35Speaker 6: brothers in high school, would take women to have sex
- 5:38Speaker 6: in that bus in front of their parents' house.
- 5:42Speaker 1: So this has been.
- 5:42Speaker 6: Behavior that has been encouraged, perhaps by their parents, all
- 5:47Speaker 6: the way through. Then you add the hundreds of millions
- 5:50Speaker 6: of dollars in properties that these brothers have sold in
- 5:53Speaker 6: the security business, and they're pretty much running around town
- 5:56Speaker 6: doing anything that they want, including, according to prosecute, drugging
- 6:01Speaker 6: women raping women. Each brother has separately been accused of
- 6:05Speaker 6: at least ten rapes, ten forcible rapes by women, and
- 6:09Speaker 6: prosecutors are saying.
- 6:10Speaker 1: That, hey, hey, Christina, Christina.
- 6:12Speaker 2: Ohio, hold on, wait a minute, we were just looking
- 6:16Speaker 2: at them. Karen Stark, why is it so hard for
- 6:21Speaker 2: people to believe that super wealthy, college educated, great job
- 6:28Speaker 2: guys can commit heinous crimes?
- 6:32Speaker 1: That's what he posted on his own Facebook Go ahead.
- 6:36Speaker 7: Well, I really believe Nancy, and people see this outward
- 6:39Speaker 7: of parents. They're dressed so well, they look so terrific
- 6:43Speaker 7: that they buy that that they believe that that's what
- 6:46Speaker 7: they really like, and they have no idea what's going
- 6:49Speaker 7: on behind the scene. And actually the fact that he
- 6:53Speaker 7: says he trusts his brother, I was thinking, yeah, they trust.
- 6:57Speaker 7: All of them trust each other in supporting the crimes
- 7:00Speaker 7: that they committed, which made it even worse because they
- 7:03Speaker 7: were encouraged.
- 7:05Speaker 2: Nima Ramani is joining US high profile lawyer out of
- 7:09Speaker 2: the California jurisdiction and for my purposes former federal prosecutor,
- 7:13Speaker 2: president of the West Coast Trial Lawyers and author of
- 7:16Speaker 2: Harvard to hashtag.
- 7:18Speaker 1: Nina, thank you for being with us.
- 7:20Speaker 2: Many people not familiar with our world of crime would say, hey,
- 7:24Speaker 2: why do they have to rape women? With good looks?
- 7:27Speaker 2: Of course they're not attractive to me. I think they
- 7:29Speaker 2: look like Satan himself. But with good looks and all
- 7:33Speaker 2: that money, they could get any woman they want, So
- 7:37Speaker 2: why rape a woman? That kind of argument has actually
- 7:40Speaker 2: worked on juryis before Nima.
- 7:42Speaker 3: It has. But Nancy, this isn't just having sex with women.
- 7:46Speaker 3: We're talking about drug induced to orgies right where multiple men,
- 7:50Speaker 3: including the two brothers, are allegedly having sex with the
- 7:53Speaker 3: same woman. So yeah, women might want to have sex
- 7:55Speaker 3: with a handsome, wealthy man, but not get in a
- 8:00Speaker 3: situation where they're having an orgy and they are being
- 8:03Speaker 3: violated by multiple men.
- 8:05Speaker 2: Your speaking sense to me, Yes, I know that. That's
- 8:08Speaker 2: my point, Nama, I'm like two steps beyond that. Of course,
- 8:12Speaker 2: what you just said is right. What I'm saying is
- 8:15Speaker 2: it would be argued to a jury.
- 8:17Speaker 1: Just look at them.
- 8:19Speaker 2: Why would they have to source women with a pr
- 8:23Speaker 2: person in other words, basically pimp pimp for the brothers
- 8:27Speaker 2: because they could get any woman they want. Therefore, ergo
- 8:31Speaker 2: they're innocent.
- 8:32Speaker 3: It's not just any woman, Nancy. They need new women
- 8:36Speaker 3: every single night, and they want to do things to
- 8:39Speaker 3: these women that a lot of women wouldn't consent to. Now,
- 8:43Speaker 3: obviously this is a family show, so I'm not going
- 8:45Speaker 3: to get into all that. But that's why they're using
- 8:47Speaker 3: drugs like GHB to drug these women so they can't
- 8:51Speaker 3: say no.
- 8:52Speaker 8: That's what this is all about.
- 8:53Speaker 3: And the tailor's old as time doesn't matter if it's
- 8:55Speaker 3: the Alexander brothers Diddy, I can say.
- 8:58Speaker 2: That I'm clearly I think you and I have a
- 9:01Speaker 2: communication problem because you're just basically saying everything that I say.
- 9:06Speaker 2: I'm Linn Shaw helped me out here, founder executive director
- 9:09Speaker 2: Lynn's Warriors, committed to ending sex attacks on children and women.
- 9:15Speaker 1: Lynn Shaw.
- 9:16Speaker 2: I'm trying to make the point that the argument will
- 9:20Speaker 2: be made by the defense. I already know the facts
- 9:23Speaker 2: is presented by the state. Everything that Ramani just said,
- 9:26Speaker 2: I get it. I've read the indictment. Okay, the defense
- 9:31Speaker 2: is going to argue at trial they don't need to
- 9:35Speaker 2: rape women. They can get any woman they want. Therefore,
- 9:39Speaker 2: this is consensual. That's bs It's argued in so many
- 9:44Speaker 2: rape cases.
- 9:45Speaker 9: I call them the Alexander Brothers crime family, and I
- 9:49Speaker 9: call these dirty Ditty complicit wannabes. Listen, the egos are
- 9:55Speaker 9: so big they're out of control. Again, this is the
- 9:58Speaker 9: same story we heard Ditty and others facing charges like this,
- 10:03Speaker 9: that so many vulnerable girls and women. I'm gonna throw
- 10:06Speaker 9: in the girls again. I wish we could get down
- 10:09Speaker 9: to were there any miners involved, But that will unfold
- 10:12Speaker 9: at some point. They want to see and live this lifestyle.
- 10:16Speaker 9: Many of these women were approached online complete strangers, and
- 10:21Speaker 9: they said, we'll fly you out, We'll give you hotels,
- 10:23Speaker 9: we'll give you parties, we'll give you clothes. And vulnerable people,
- 10:27Speaker 9: girls especially, really want to experience this. I'm here to
- 10:32Speaker 9: say if this case can help us educate the general public,
- 10:37Speaker 9: because we're hearing about all these you know, dirty ditty
- 10:39Speaker 9: We're hearing about Tape brothers, We're hearing about Jeffrey Epstein,
- 10:42Speaker 9: we're hearing about now these criminal Alexander brothers. If it could,
- 10:46Speaker 9: if it could water down eventually, my hope is to
- 10:50Speaker 9: everyday cases that are happening, that nobody will ever hear
- 10:53Speaker 9: those victims, see those victims, so we can educate everybody.
- 10:56Speaker 9: When they offer you something like this, this lifestyle for free,
- 10:59Speaker 9: they're gonna fly you somewhere run.
- 11:01Speaker 1: In the other direction.
- 11:03Speaker 9: This is again their powers, their money, their egos, their homes,
- 11:08Speaker 9: overtaking people's common sense. We have to do better educating
- 11:11Speaker 9: the public, girls and women about all of this.
- 11:14Speaker 2: Their family wealth has been estimated, correct me if I'm wrong,
- 11:18Speaker 2: Christina Whyo joining me from Salemw's channel over one hundred
- 11:24Speaker 2: and fifteen million dollars.
- 11:27Speaker 6: Correct, And I'm I'm sure that's even more than that.
- 11:30Speaker 2: Is.
- 11:30Speaker 6: The parents have offered to put up to one billion
- 11:33Speaker 6: dollars to get their three boys out of prison out
- 11:36Speaker 6: on bail. They've even offered to put them up in
- 11:38Speaker 6: a second story apartment complex where they're jail time pre trial,
- 11:42Speaker 6: that has no beachfront, that has no luxury. That's you know,
- 11:46Speaker 6: guarded twenty four to seven of my guard way.
- 11:49Speaker 2: W wha wha waite white white Christina. Wait, did you
- 11:55Speaker 2: say the parents want to get them out of jail,
- 12:00Speaker 2: want a billion as in brother Bee brother billion dollar bill.
- 12:05Speaker 1: And the.
- 12:06Speaker 2: Jail is because they don't have a beach, they.
- 12:11Speaker 6: Won't have a water view, they won't have any orgies,
- 12:14Speaker 6: and it won't be luxuries. So that's what they're considering
- 12:16Speaker 6: to be jail. And yes, up to one billion with
- 12:19Speaker 6: a beach is what they're willing to put up to
- 12:21Speaker 6: get their three sons out of prison.
- 12:24Speaker 2: Bill Day, it's the ditties, it's the new ditties because
- 12:29Speaker 2: all the money procuring the women, making other people be
- 12:33Speaker 2: your hench person to bring women to you, to drug
- 12:36Speaker 2: them and rap them. Those are the allegations that presumed innocent,
- 12:39Speaker 2: but also is Luigi Minngioni all over again. Here is
- 12:43Speaker 2: a rich brat kid whining about how US common people
- 12:47Speaker 2: have to live with the healthcare industry while he's in
- 12:51Speaker 2: a beach front Hawaii luxury high rise condo. His great
- 12:56Speaker 2: grandparents and grandparents and broke their backs coming to this
- 13:00Speaker 2: country and becoming millionaires, working up from nothing, nothing, passing
- 13:07Speaker 2: it down. So Luigi Mangioni could wine in his luxury condo.
- 13:14Speaker 1: These two same thing. Bill.
- 13:17Speaker 10: Yeah, and in this case, they've actually built their business,
- 13:20Speaker 10: so they've built their brand.
- 13:22Speaker 8: They now feel omnipotent.
- 13:24Speaker 10: I mean they have money, they're traveling with celebrities, they're
- 13:27Speaker 10: flying on private jets.
- 13:28Speaker 8: You know, they're selling these huge, multi multimillion dollar properties.
- 13:33Speaker 10: They are getting headlines in all kinds of media, including
- 13:36Speaker 10: their own real estate empire.
- 13:39Speaker 8: So you know, these are the paper people.
- 13:41Speaker 10: If I put a profile around them, not an FBI profile,
- 13:43Speaker 10: but I know enough of them to speak about how
- 13:46Speaker 10: these people become can become emboldened, emblazoned. It's both feeding
- 13:51Speaker 10: the ego as well as also just their ability.
- 13:54Speaker 8: To control things.
- 13:55Speaker 10: So they like to be able to control everything, whether
- 13:58Speaker 10: it's the deal or people.
- 14:00Speaker 2: Guess what I got a superseding indictment. I bet that's
- 14:05Speaker 2: making Nima Ramani just clinch because when you see the
- 14:09Speaker 2: FEDS have a superseding indictment, this is for conspiracy to
- 14:13Speaker 2: commit sex trafficking on these rich brats.
- 14:17Speaker 1: That means, hey, we have one go at you, but
- 14:19Speaker 1: we're not through.
- 14:21Speaker 2: We're issuing a revised, a new and improved indictment with
- 14:25Speaker 2: more charges. It supersedes the previous indictment. Yeah, they may
- 14:30Speaker 2: be rolling in money, but apparently the Feds don't care
- 14:35Speaker 2: so exactly.
- 14:36Speaker 1: Who are the so called real estate Bros.
- 14:40Speaker 5: There are three Alexander brothers. Two of the brothers are
- 14:43Speaker 5: twins or in a lawn. Their older brother Tall Tall
- 14:47Speaker 5: and or In Alexandra are known in the world of
- 14:49Speaker 5: high priced real estate, having broke he to a forty
- 14:51Speaker 5: nine million dollar deal for their dad in twenty twelve
- 14:54Speaker 5: and a two hundred and forty million dollar deal for
- 14:57Speaker 5: a Manhattan condos sale in twenty nineteen. While Lorren's twin
- 15:00Speaker 5: brother Alan attended law school before joining the family's private
- 15:03Speaker 5: security company, Kin Security.
- 15:09Speaker 2: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, the multi millionaire real estate
- 15:18Speaker 2: Bros aka the New Diddies. The Alexander brothers tal Orn
- 15:24Speaker 2: and Alawn Alexander, all convicted on all ten counts of
- 15:30Speaker 2: raping and drugging multiple women. These are just the ones
- 15:35Speaker 2: the state thought they could prove, the ones where they
- 15:38Speaker 2: could find the victims convince them to testify, which was
- 15:41Speaker 2: no easy thing after the Sean Combs debacle. That said,
- 15:46Speaker 2: the three held in Brooklyn's MDC Metropolitan Detention Center until sentencing.
- 15:53Speaker 2: What do we know about claims they drugged and raped
- 15:58Speaker 2: literally dozens of women as part of a predation campaign
- 16:03Speaker 2: going all the way back to their high school days,
- 16:07Speaker 2: and nobody did a darn thing.
- 16:10Speaker 11: In a fifty million dollar Upper east Side townhouse, the
- 16:13Speaker 11: Alexander twins, Orin and Elon, celebrate their twenty eighth birthday.
- 16:17Speaker 11: Celebrants are greeted by a nearly naked woman on display
- 16:20Speaker 11: as a toy for the rich and famous to play
- 16:22Speaker 11: with as they take turns. Dripping hot wax on the
- 16:25Speaker 11: woman setting the tone for the decade, a night that
- 16:27Speaker 11: awaits those who are rich enough and or famous enough
- 16:30Speaker 11: to be invited to the Alexander Twins' birthday Pash.
- 16:33Speaker 1: What am I hearing? Wait a minute?
- 16:36Speaker 2: A fifty million dollar Upper east Side townhouse, the real
- 16:40Speaker 2: estate bros celebrate their twenty eighth birthday celebrates greeted by
- 16:46Speaker 2: a nearly naked woman on display as a toy for
- 16:53Speaker 2: the rich and famous to play with as they take turns.
- 16:56Speaker 1: Dripping hot wax on her. Deja vu. Huh does this
- 17:03Speaker 1: remind you of anything?
- 17:06Speaker 2: Hi diddy, there, you are nothing like eating sushi off
- 17:10Speaker 2: a naked lady on display for the rich and famous.
- 17:15Speaker 2: I mean, it's like an echo chamber in here. Well,
- 17:20Speaker 2: guess what the Feds apparently in this case anyway, don't
- 17:24Speaker 2: care how rich you are, whether you're eating sushi off
- 17:28Speaker 2: a naked lady at a luxury party or you have
- 17:31Speaker 2: her on display so rich people can drip wax on her.
- 17:36Speaker 2: Listen to the US Attorney for the Southern District Omne York.
- 17:39Speaker 4: The Alexander brothers, sometimes acting alone, sometimes with each other,
- 17:44Speaker 4: and sometimes with other men, forcibly raped and assaulted the women.
- 17:50Speaker 4: As the endictment alleges that Alexander brothers sex trafficking agreement
- 17:53Speaker 4: went beyond the planned trips and events. On numerous occasions,
- 17:57Speaker 4: one or more of the defendants drugged and raped or
- 18:00Speaker 4: sexually assaulted women they encountered by chance at bars, at nightclubs,
- 18:05Speaker 4: social events, and dating apps.
- 18:08Speaker 1: These assaults allegedly.
- 18:10Speaker 4: Had many of the same hallmarks as the rapes that
- 18:12Speaker 4: occurred at group events, isolated locations, drug victims, force and
- 18:18Speaker 4: physical restraint.
- 18:19Speaker 1: It's really a lot to take in.
- 18:22Speaker 2: You know, very often as a former prosecutor prosecuting nothing
- 18:27Speaker 2: but violent felonies, I would catch myself wondering why, for instance,
- 18:33Speaker 2: why not just date a woman and have a relationship
- 18:39Speaker 2: and have sex with her and not drug anybody and
- 18:44Speaker 2: rape and sodomize them and a party in a party
- 18:49Speaker 2: setting with a lot of guys standing around. But then
- 18:53Speaker 2: I realized, about five years into that kind of thinking,
- 18:56Speaker 2: why ask why?
- 18:58Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. I had one job to seek the truth.
- 19:02Speaker 1: Who did, what, where, when? And why? Why not?
- 19:06Speaker 2: So much to Karen Stark, renowned psychologists joining us, Karen,
- 19:11Speaker 2: it's not about sex.
- 19:13Speaker 1: That's a simple answer for me.
- 19:15Speaker 2: Why don't the real estate bros with all their money
- 19:18Speaker 2: and all their high rises just go date somebody and
- 19:21Speaker 2: have a sex life.
- 19:23Speaker 1: It's not about the sex. What is it?
- 19:26Speaker 8: It's a perversion, Nancy.
- 19:28Speaker 7: They're getting off on raping, satemizing a normal relationship, the
- 19:34Speaker 7: kind that you're referring to does not excite them. They
- 19:37Speaker 7: have gotten used to this kind of rape and violence
- 19:40Speaker 7: since they were in high school, and this is what
- 19:44Speaker 7: gets them excited.
- 19:45Speaker 8: Nothing else.
- 19:46Speaker 2: Talk about a wolf in sheep's clothing. These wild, extravagant
- 19:53Speaker 2: parties that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
- 19:57Speaker 1: Were not parties at all.
- 19:58Speaker 2: They were just a russ to find sex assault victims
- 20:03Speaker 2: for the New Ditties.
- 20:05Speaker 5: Listen, the fabulous parties with fabulous people might have been
- 20:09Speaker 5: a cover for something sinister pre planned by the Alexander brothers.
- 20:13Speaker 5: Each of the three brothers has been accused of forcible
- 20:16Speaker 5: rape by at least ten women. All three indicted on
- 20:19Speaker 5: federal charges of sex trafficking, while the twins aren't in
- 20:22Speaker 5: Alan are charged with sexual battery in Florida. The Alexanders
- 20:26Speaker 5: have denied the allegations in the civil cases, and their
- 20:28Speaker 5: reps have previously gone so far as to suggest the
- 20:31Speaker 5: accusers were trying to shake down the brothers.
- 20:34Speaker 2: Second verse, same as the first. Do I have to
- 20:37Speaker 2: say deja vu all over again? Why the real estate
- 20:41Speaker 2: bros Are called the New Didties? Same thing now they
- 20:46Speaker 2: called it fabulous parties.
- 20:49Speaker 1: Ditty calls it Freakoffs.
- 20:51Speaker 4: Holmes allegedly planned and controlled the sex performances, which he
- 20:55Speaker 4: called freakoffs, and he often electronically recorded them. The freakofs
- 21:02Speaker 4: sometimes lasted days at a time, involved multiple commercial sex workers,
- 21:07Speaker 4: and often involved a variety of narcotics such as ketamine, ecstasy,
- 21:12Speaker 4: and GHB, which Combs distributed to the victims to keep
- 21:15Speaker 4: them obedient and compliant. As alleged, when Combes didn't get
- 21:20Speaker 4: his way, he was violent and he subjected victims of physical, emotional,
- 21:26Speaker 4: and verbal abuse so that they would participate in the Freakofs.
- 21:30Speaker 2: To Christina Awayo, joining US investigative reporter and news anchor,
- 21:35Speaker 2: the comparison between the real estate Bros And Diddy are inescapable.
- 21:41Speaker 1: They are.
- 21:42Speaker 6: They both are basically using their power and influence to
- 21:45Speaker 6: allegedly drug and rape women. However, the brothers have been
- 21:50Speaker 6: doing this I think longer than Diddy, all the way
- 21:53Speaker 6: tracing back to high school. I think they were encouraged
- 21:55Speaker 6: to do it with their lifestyle, and they have been
- 21:56Speaker 6: described as being very aggressive, very bullish, very attack of
- 22:02Speaker 6: when it comes to working in business. And also you
- 22:04Speaker 6: have people from their high school years who are coming
- 22:06Speaker 6: forward saying that they did it in high school and
- 22:09Speaker 6: people were scared. Everybody in the community was scared to
- 22:11Speaker 6: speak out because they had so much power, they had
- 22:14Speaker 6: so much prominence, because they had so much influence, And
- 22:16Speaker 6: the same goes for Diddy. He has so much power
- 22:19Speaker 6: and so much money. People don't want to talk out
- 22:21Speaker 6: against it. People are scared that their careers are going
- 22:23Speaker 6: to be ruined, that they're never going to be let
- 22:25Speaker 6: back into the music industry, that they'll be blacklisted from
- 22:28Speaker 6: certain events. And I think the same is true for
- 22:30Speaker 6: the Brothers.
- 22:36Speaker 2: Crime stories with Nancy Grace, the so called New Ditties.
- 22:44Speaker 2: The Alexander Bros. Five week trial featured eleven accusers. They
- 22:53Speaker 2: testified they had been attacked at various locations including posh
- 22:57Speaker 2: New York City homes, Colorado, on a ski trip, at
- 23:02Speaker 2: mansions in the Hampton's, and even on a Caribbean cruise.
- 23:07Speaker 2: Iw It's like the Alexander Bros. Would go hunting for victims.
- 23:15Speaker 2: Horrific rape diaries kind of like blogs were discovered where
- 23:20Speaker 2: they made fun of the victims, somewhat of a quote playbook.
- 23:25Speaker 2: What do we know about the claims?
- 23:27Speaker 12: First witness in the sex trafficking trial involving three brothers,
- 23:31Speaker 12: two of whom our prominent real estate brokers, recounted her
- 23:34Speaker 12: harrowing experience on Tuesday. The excitement of attending a party
- 23:39Speaker 12: at actor Zach Ephron's apartment swiftly turned into a nightmare
- 23:43Speaker 12: when hours later one of the brothers assaulted her in
- 23:46Speaker 12: their residence, taunting her throughout the ordeal. The woman who
- 23:50Speaker 12: spoke under a fictitious name is among several alleged victims
- 23:54Speaker 12: slated to testify against tal Orrin and Alawn Alexander, who
- 23:59Speaker 12: faced accusations of drugging and raping women and girls over
- 24:02Speaker 12: several years. Defense attorneys for the brothers assert that the
- 24:06Speaker 12: encounters were consensual. Prosecutors alleged that the Alexander brothers exploited
- 24:11Speaker 12: their connections to wealthy and influential people to entice multiple victims.
- 24:17Speaker 12: The witness explained that she was just twenty years old
- 24:20Speaker 12: and studying anthropology when she met two of the brothers
- 24:23Speaker 12: at a party at Ephron's New York City apartment. She
- 24:27Speaker 12: had accompanied a friend who had recently befriended tal Alexander,
- 24:30Speaker 12: who invited them to watch the final game of the
- 24:33Speaker 12: twenty twelve NBA Finals. She noted that their interaction with
- 24:37Speaker 12: Ephron was minimal, as he is not implicated in any wrongdoing.
- 24:41Speaker 12: After the game, she attended an after party at a
- 24:44Speaker 12: Manhattan night club, where she accepted a drink and lost consciousness.
- 24:48Speaker 12: She later woke up in a different apartment naked with
- 24:51Speaker 12: a lawn, Alexander standing over her, also unclothed. Despite her
- 24:56Speaker 12: attempts to rise, he repeatedly pushed her back down, leading
- 24:59Speaker 12: her to declare, I don't want to have sex with you,
- 25:02Speaker 12: she said. He laughed and responded, you already did. She
- 25:06Speaker 12: recounted how he then forced himself on her during the assault,
- 25:09Speaker 12: tal Alexander briefly entered the room but did not intervene,
- 25:14Speaker 12: leaving her feeling that he was quote super nonchalant about
- 25:17Speaker 12: the whole thing. Assistant US Attorney Madison Smires, in her
- 25:21Speaker 12: opening remarks to the jury, described the Alexander brothers as
- 25:25Speaker 12: perpetrators masquerading as party boys. She stated that they employed
- 25:30Speaker 12: various tactics, including luxury, accommodations, flights, drugs, alcohol, and sometimes
- 25:36Speaker 12: physical force to manipulate women into compromising situations. Defense attorney
- 25:42Speaker 12: Teeny Garagos, representing Orin Alexander, urged the jury to dismiss
- 25:46Speaker 12: the prosecution's monstrous story. Garaghos portrayed the brothers, who graduated
- 25:51Speaker 12: from college in two thousand and eight, as ambitious and
- 25:54Speaker 12: occasionally arrogant young men navigating the nightlife scene in search
- 25:58Speaker 12: of romantic encounters, arguing that while their behavior may seem immoral,
- 26:03Speaker 12: it is not criminal. She suggested that some accusers were
- 26:06Speaker 12: pursuing lawsuits for financial gain and only labeled themselves as
- 26:10Speaker 12: victims after regretting their choices, such as using illegal drugs
- 26:15Speaker 12: or engaging in sexual activities outside their current relationships. Attorney
- 26:20Speaker 12: Deana Paul, representing Tal Alexander, cautioned the jury that the
- 26:24Speaker 12: trial's subject matter could be distressing, like to an R
- 26:29Speaker 12: rated movie, and emphasizing the prosecution's portrayal of the brothers
- 26:32Speaker 12: as quote monsters. In a courtroom sketch, the three brothers,
- 26:36Speaker 12: A lawn Or and Tal Alexander were seen in Manhattan
- 26:40Speaker 12: Federal Court on the opening day of trial January twenty seven.
- 26:43Speaker 12: Tal and Or and Alexander specialized in high end real
- 26:47Speaker 12: estate in cities like Miami, New York, and LA while
- 26:51Speaker 12: their brother Alan earned a law degree and managed the
- 26:54Speaker 12: family's private security business. Tall is thirty nine. The twins
- 26:58Speaker 12: Alan in Oran are thirty eight. The indictment claims the
- 27:01Speaker 12: men conspired to lure women to vacation spots like the
- 27:05Speaker 12: Hamptons by offering flights and luxurious accommodations. Since their arrest
- 27:10Speaker 12: in Miami in December of twenty twenty four, the brothers
- 27:13Speaker 12: have been held without bail. During her testimony on Tuesday,
- 27:16Speaker 12: the first witness described how she escaped the room where
- 27:19Speaker 12: Alan Alexander had attacked her after he fell asleep. Despite
- 27:24Speaker 12: the emotional weight of her testimony, she maintained her composure
- 27:28Speaker 12: for the most part, though she became visibly upset at times,
- 27:31Speaker 12: particularly when she reflected on reaching out to a friend
- 27:35Speaker 12: years later after the incident to remind herself that she
- 27:39Speaker 12: was still love.
- 27:40Speaker 13: This week, an FBI special agent presented jurors with detailed
- 27:44Speaker 13: charts showing years of emails and text messages. Prosecutors argue
- 27:49Speaker 13: reveal patterns of coordination and planning among the brothers dating
- 27:53Speaker 13: back to two thousand and nine. One accuser, identified in
- 27:57Speaker 13: court as Victim twenty, testified that she met or An
- 28:00Speaker 13: Alexander during a ski trip in Aspen and soon became
- 28:03Speaker 13: heavily intoxicated after drinking champagne with him and his brother Tall.
- 28:08Speaker 13: She told jurors that she regained partial awareness to find
- 28:12Speaker 13: Orin on top of her, and then she felt confused, sore,
- 28:16Speaker 13: and humiliated. The next day, she also testified she later
- 28:20Speaker 13: learned that she had contracted chlamydia from Orin. Defense attorneys, however,
- 28:26Speaker 13: have aggressively challenged the credibility of accusers, pointing to flirtatious messages,
- 28:32Speaker 13: gaps in memory, and continued contact with the brothers after
- 28:37Speaker 13: the alleged assaults. The defense has argued these interactions were consensual,
- 28:42Speaker 13: while highlighting inconsistencies in witness testimony.
- 28:45Speaker 2: The Alexander brothers are so called real estate bros rolling
- 28:51Speaker 2: in money, also called the new Deities. All of their
- 28:55Speaker 2: trouble started, well, it really started all the way back
- 28:58Speaker 2: in high school when they're accused of such assaulting women
- 29:01Speaker 2: all the way back then. But the current day problems
- 29:06Speaker 2: i EI. Their rape charges all started when one woman
- 29:12Speaker 2: spoke out. According to prosecutors, the rapes and sex assaults
- 29:16Speaker 2: have been going on for years and years and years
- 29:20Speaker 2: until this woman spoke out.
- 29:22Speaker 5: Listen, the Alexander brothers fall from grace begins when the
- 29:26Speaker 5: Real Deal reports on damning lawsuits brought by alleged victims
- 29:30Speaker 5: Kay Wyman and Rebecca Mandel. Wyman alleges the brothers abducted
- 29:34Speaker 5: her in twenty twelve and brought her to a Hampton's
- 29:36Speaker 5: party palace in Watermill, Long Island, where the brothers allegedly
- 29:40Speaker 5: dragged her into a large bedroom where she was sexually assaulted, abused, raped, pinned, groped, harassed,
- 29:47Speaker 5: battered and fondled by a lawn and or in Alexander.
- 29:50Speaker 1: Isn't it amazing?
- 29:52Speaker 2: Linn saw joining us from Wynn's Warriors, how it only
- 29:55Speaker 2: takes one person, one person to stand up, be counted,
- 30:00Speaker 2: one person to speak out, even though they may be
- 30:03Speaker 2: afraid for the whole house of cards to fall down.
- 30:07Speaker 9: Yeah, but we have to educate everybody that we will
- 30:10Speaker 9: give you safety, we will give you guardrails, we will
- 30:13Speaker 9: stand next to you. That is what I'm hoping all
- 30:15Speaker 9: of these dirty ditties and this Alexander Brothers crime family
- 30:19Speaker 9: will bring more public awareness again watering down to you know,
- 30:24Speaker 9: maybe that team that lives in the Bronx or something
- 30:26Speaker 9: like that, that they can come forward. We will take
- 30:29Speaker 9: care of them. But I want to point something out.
- 30:31Speaker 9: There is so much video evidence here, and I want
- 30:34Speaker 9: to go back to what happened with all those videos
- 30:37Speaker 9: where they upload it to porn sites?
- 30:40Speaker 1: Was there millions of dollars? Because we do a lot
- 30:42Speaker 1: of work with this.
- 30:43Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Lynn Shaw, hold on, you're exactly right
- 30:47Speaker 2: straight out to Christina at Yo joining US news anchor
- 30:50Speaker 2: and investigative reporter. What are these so called trophies of
- 30:54Speaker 2: the real estate bros That has just have just been revealed.
- 30:58Speaker 6: Yes, well, it's one thing to have a testimony, right,
- 31:00Speaker 6: but it's an entirely different situation when you have video evidence,
- 31:04Speaker 6: as we just saw with the Cassie and Diddy situation.
- 31:07Speaker 6: Prosecutors and investigators rated tell Alexander's Manhattan apartment and they
- 31:12Speaker 6: found a hard drive filled with pictures and videos. They're
- 31:16Speaker 6: saying in these videos, of course, there's the quote unquote
- 31:19Speaker 6: orgys or the sessions where alleged rape is happening. They
- 31:23Speaker 6: are saying that women can be seen highly intoxicated on
- 31:26Speaker 6: alcohol or maybe even drug. They're saying they're seeing in
- 31:30Speaker 6: these videos where the brothers are physically manipulating these women's
- 31:34Speaker 6: bodies to have sex with them, and most of the
- 31:37Speaker 6: time they're saying, these women do not know they're being recorded.
- 31:40Speaker 6: There's this one incident that they explain that a woman
- 31:43Speaker 6: and a man are having sex in a stall and
- 31:45Speaker 6: another person is recording over the stall with the camera,
- 31:48Speaker 6: and when the woman sees it, she protests, she says no.
- 31:51Speaker 6: So it's going to be pretty difficult. For whatever reason
- 31:54Speaker 6: they kept these videos or they have these videos, it's
- 31:56Speaker 6: going to be difficult to defend this in court.
- 31:58Speaker 2: Christina, you study that one of the videos was taken
- 32:01Speaker 2: over a stall.
- 32:02Speaker 6: What yep, So a man and a woman were having sex.
- 32:05Speaker 6: It didn't detail if that was forced rape, It didn't
- 32:08Speaker 6: detail what that was exactly. But there is a third
- 32:11Speaker 6: person who is holding a video camera up over the
- 32:14Speaker 6: bathroom stall where the woman and man are inside of
- 32:17Speaker 6: that stall having sex, and the woman sees the camera.
- 32:19Speaker 6: She tells them to stop, and they don't stop. And
- 32:21Speaker 6: that's what prosecutors are saying. They're not listening to these women.
- 32:24Speaker 6: They're manipulating their bodies, and they won't stop when the
- 32:27Speaker 6: women are asking them to stop.
- 32:29Speaker 2: Trophies trophies to Nima Romani, joining US former federal prosecutor,
- 32:35Speaker 2: president of West Coast Trial Warriors author of Harvard to
- 32:38Speaker 2: Hashtag's Nima trophies.
- 32:42Speaker 1: Have been the undoing of so many criminals, explain.
- 32:46Speaker 3: Oh, it's great evidence if you're a prosecutor, because people
- 32:49Speaker 3: can lie. Criminal in fendans lay all the time, even
- 32:51Speaker 3: witnesses and victims can sometimes lie.
- 32:53Speaker 1: But video doesn't lie.
- 32:55Speaker 3: And when you have video of these sex acts, that
- 32:58Speaker 3: is the best evidence when you're a prosecutor, because really
- 33:02Speaker 3: there's only two defenses in any sex trafficking case. Either
- 33:05Speaker 3: the sexual activity didn't happen or it was consensual. That's it.
- 33:10Speaker 3: And once you have that video, it certainly takes away
- 33:12Speaker 3: the first defense, and then when women are being drugg
- 33:16Speaker 3: takes away the second as well. And there's really two
- 33:18Speaker 3: reasons why people record these sex sects. The first is
- 33:22Speaker 3: their own deviant sexual pleasure, and I think that's probably
- 33:25Speaker 3: why Diddy was recording his freak offs. But there's the
- 33:28Speaker 3: second reason, and that is to have control over the victims,
- 33:33Speaker 3: potentially blackmail them and say, hey, if you come after me,
- 33:36Speaker 3: I'm going to leak these videos.
- 33:37Speaker 2: Christina Ryo, isn't it true that these videos were pulled
- 33:42Speaker 2: off of a hard drive that was found hidden in
- 33:45Speaker 2: a closet during a federal search.
- 33:48Speaker 6: Yes, in tall Alexander's Manhattan apartment, so they were really searching.
- 33:52Speaker 6: They had the warrant to go through everything, and he
- 33:53Speaker 6: kept them. He kept them on a hard drive. And
- 33:55Speaker 6: it's not just videos, it's pictures as well. And it
- 33:58Speaker 6: goes to show that just like he said, men light
- 34:01Speaker 6: women light witnesses lie. Perhaps, but the video is not
- 34:04Speaker 6: going to lie. And this is pretty tough evidence. However,
- 34:06Speaker 6: the defense is already saying that this doesn't prove anything.
- 34:09Speaker 6: This doesn't prove a commercial act, This doesn't prove that
- 34:11Speaker 6: they were drugged. It may prove that they're intoxicated. But
- 34:15Speaker 6: he's saying, oh, these are just big orgies. Everybody was
- 34:18Speaker 6: willing and there is nothing going on here, So next story, please,
- 34:22Speaker 6: you know.
- 34:22Speaker 1: It reminds me.
- 34:23Speaker 2: In the last few days, Shawn Comes aka Diddi's defense
- 34:28Speaker 2: team has stated they want the free coll videos to
- 34:30Speaker 2: be made public because it quote proves his innocence. Okay, sure,
- 34:36Speaker 2: you know another thing. If it's so innocent, why was
- 34:39Speaker 2: it hidden in a closet. But thinking about the videos,
- 34:43Speaker 2: the trophies pulled from a hard drive in the real
- 34:46Speaker 2: estate bro's closet, It reminds me of a certain raid
- 34:50Speaker 2: that went down on Sawn Combs's mansion. In that case,
- 34:55Speaker 2: as well, Bill Daily, former FBI trophies quote trophies.
- 35:01Speaker 1: Were obtained during that ray.
- 35:03Speaker 2: Bial Daily video equipment was reportedly discovered, along with over
- 35:10Speaker 2: a thousand bottles of lubricant baby oil.
- 35:14Speaker 1: Trophies have been the bane of many criminals existence.
- 35:18Speaker 14: Why trophies well, you know, and as if you go
- 35:20Speaker 14: to other kind of repeat offenders, repeat criminals such as
- 35:24Speaker 14: Dennis Raider, the buying torture kill fiend, you know, they either.
- 35:29Speaker 10: Keep pieces of clothing, they keep some something to remind
- 35:34Speaker 10: them something.
- 35:34Speaker 8: Who's going to get them excited, Something's going to.
- 35:36Speaker 10: You know, make them remember how how wonderful it was
- 35:39Speaker 10: that they controlled this person, that they did what they did.
- 35:43Speaker 8: And so for all these things, it's some way.
- 35:45Speaker 1: Are you putting perfume on the pig daily? That's not
- 35:48Speaker 1: like you.
- 35:49Speaker 2: The souvenirs, the trophies quote get them excited, you mean,
- 35:52Speaker 2: give them an erection.
- 35:54Speaker 10: Well, you know that as well as sharing among other
- 35:57Speaker 10: people being able to in some cases they like to
- 36:00Speaker 10: share it because they've had this experience of other people.
- 36:02Speaker 8: They keep it.
- 36:03Speaker 10: They look at themselves, you know, maybe other people. They
- 36:07Speaker 10: let them see that. That all kind of gives them
- 36:08Speaker 10: a sense of control. It goes back to that essence
- 36:11Speaker 10: of controlling individuals, controlling their environment, doing what they want
- 36:15Speaker 10: to do, using that leverage over people.
- 36:18Speaker 2: You know.
- 36:18Speaker 10: In this case, Nancy, in a very interesting point it
- 36:20Speaker 10: came up, which is simply what we've seen in other cases,
- 36:22Speaker 10: is that as the FBI is investigating this, reports are
- 36:25Speaker 10: coming out that multiple victims have the same stories. Again,
- 36:28Speaker 10: people who've been not connected, not there at the same place,
- 36:31Speaker 10: same time, but have the same.
- 36:33Speaker 8: Story to tell.
- 36:34Speaker 10: All of that is extreming and as part of what
- 36:37Speaker 10: I believe the FBI is and the US the Attorney's
- 36:39Speaker 10: Office is making their case out of is that they
- 36:41Speaker 10: have statements and I would encourage people.
- 36:44Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very curious, Bill Daily. I think this goes
- 36:47Speaker 1: beyond your or my kin.
- 36:50Speaker 2: Colloquial for understanding joining me psychologist Karen Stark.
- 36:55Speaker 1: Everything Bill Daily said is correct, But what.
- 36:59Speaker 2: Is the reason, the mental or the psychological reason that
- 37:03Speaker 2: people like Dennis Raider or in this case, the real
- 37:07Speaker 2: estate bros also called the rape bros.
- 37:10Speaker 1: But those are just accusations. Why keep all these videos
- 37:14Speaker 1: they're damning.
- 37:15Speaker 7: It's a wonderful way for them to relive the crime.
- 37:18Speaker 7: Nancy and whatever got them off when they were doing it,
- 37:22Speaker 7: whatever got them excited and gave them erections and orgasms.
- 37:27Speaker 7: They can do that all over again repeatedly because they
- 37:31Speaker 7: have these trophies. It's great if it's a video, but
- 37:34Speaker 7: it can be an airing. It could be a necklace,
- 37:37Speaker 7: it could be a piece of clothing. It doesn't matter.
- 37:40Speaker 7: They wind up reliving the excitement that they felt at
- 37:44Speaker 7: the time and how much they controlled the situation.
- 37:49Speaker 2: The new didties. The three Alexander Bros. The real estate Bros.
- 37:53Speaker 2: Pled not guilty, and the defense did their best to
- 37:58Speaker 2: kind of paint their behavior as morally disgusting but not criminal. Okay,
- 38:08Speaker 2: But that defense was blown wide open by a torpedo
- 38:12Speaker 2: with a resounding jury rate of guilty on all accounts.
- 38:17Speaker 2: What was the evidence the jury heard?
- 38:19Speaker 1: For years?
- 38:20Speaker 4: The Alexander brothers, sometimes with others, also arranged domestic and
- 38:25Speaker 4: international trips to carry out their sex trafficking scheme. To
- 38:29Speaker 4: recruit and induce women to come on the trips, they
- 38:32Speaker 4: provided material benefits things they travel to, vacation destinations, luxury,
- 38:37Speaker 4: accommodations and access to other high end experiences.
- 38:40Speaker 1: Are the claims true? Should I believe the real estate Bros?
- 38:45Speaker 1: Or should I believe.
- 38:46Speaker 2: All of the women now coming forward, some of them
- 38:50Speaker 2: named in federal indictments, others filing civil suits.
- 38:55Speaker 1: What's very hard.
- 38:56Speaker 2: For many people to understand, including myself, is how the
- 39:00Speaker 2: real estate bros. Acted, how they faked a happy home life.
- 39:07Speaker 5: Listen, the Alexander brothers are all married now. A Lawn
- 39:11Speaker 5: married Shaney Zigrin, with whom he has two children, in
- 39:14Speaker 5: May of twenty twenty. Or In married model Camilla Hanson
- 39:17Speaker 5: in April twenty twenty three, and Tall married Ariel CogAT
- 39:21Speaker 5: in October of twenty twenty three. Or In pleaded with
- 39:24Speaker 5: a judge to let him out as his wife was
- 39:27Speaker 5: pregnant and do any day. His request was denied.
- 39:30Speaker 2: That's something the baby can say as it grows up.
- 39:33Speaker 2: Dad was in jail on rape charges when I was born.
- 39:36Speaker 2: This whole facade of a happy family again, it's diddy
- 39:42Speaker 2: REDIU listen, be happy.
- 39:48Speaker 8: I love you.
- 39:49Speaker 1: Two of you.
- 39:50Speaker 8: Get here on the phone.
- 39:51Speaker 1: Time to Veterman.
- 39:58Speaker 2: Try, a lawyer of former felony prosecute Nima Romani Nima.
- 40:02Speaker 1: It would not.
- 40:03Speaker 2: Be the first time a so called family man was
- 40:07Speaker 2: ultimately convicted of repeat offenses.
- 40:11Speaker 1: I mean, there's Dennis.
- 40:12Speaker 2: Raider that Bill Dealey brought up earlier, who would sex
- 40:16Speaker 2: assault and kill so many women and including young girls
- 40:21Speaker 2: on his dog catching route the whole time. He had
- 40:24Speaker 2: a family at home, and he was a deacon in
- 40:27Speaker 2: the church. Then you've got Gaysey John Wayne Gacy, who
- 40:32Speaker 2: would go to children's birthday parties to entertain the children
- 40:36Speaker 2: dressed as a clown.
- 40:37Speaker 1: I don't know how many.
- 40:39Speaker 2: Boys' bodies were pulled out of his crawl space. Then
- 40:42Speaker 2: you got Ted Bundy, who seemingly was a successful law
- 40:47Speaker 2: school student.
- 40:48Speaker 1: He's a serial killer.
- 40:49Speaker 2: He goes on and on, and do I have to say,
- 40:53Speaker 2: Rex Huerman, the eight hundred pound gorilla in the room,
- 40:56Speaker 2: the architect by day, serial killer by night, with a
- 41:00Speaker 2: wife and two.
- 41:01Speaker 1: Children, Nancy and Human.
- 41:02Speaker 3: His wife actually saw some of these sex acts, at
- 41:05Speaker 3: least allegedly, So this question of what she knew, Well,
- 41:07Speaker 3: this is criminal defense.
- 41:09Speaker 8: Lawyering one oh one.
- 41:10Speaker 3: They want to show the jurors that the defendant has
- 41:13Speaker 3: family support. That's why you see Ditty's family at every
- 41:17Speaker 3: single appearance. That's why I fully expect the Alexander brothers
- 41:21Speaker 3: to have their parents, the wives who haven't filed divorce
- 41:24Speaker 3: to be at those court proceedings, because that's what jurors expect.
- 41:28Speaker 3: They want to see the family members supporting the folks
- 41:31Speaker 3: who are accused and are on trap.
- 41:34Speaker 1: And like Didty, the new Ditties have.
- 41:38Speaker 2: A fantastical scheme of how they're going to stay out
- 41:40Speaker 2: of MDC Metropolitan Detention Center listen.
- 41:44Speaker 5: In a crazy bid to keep their boys out of incarceration,
- 41:47Speaker 5: the parents of the Alexander brothers have offered to provide
- 41:50Speaker 5: private imprisonment. In a real proposal to authorities, Shlomo and
- 41:54Speaker 5: Early Alexander proposed confining the brothers to a two bedroom
- 41:58Speaker 5: apartment on the eighth floor of Miami Bill, emphasizing the
- 42:01Speaker 5: apartment is non waterfront and non luxury. They promised security
- 42:05Speaker 5: guards would be stationed around the clock and an alarm
- 42:07Speaker 5: system would make sure the brothers remain on site. The
- 42:10Speaker 5: parents also offered to put up to one billion dollars
- 42:13Speaker 5: bail for their sons to get out of jail.
- 42:15Speaker 1: In case you.
- 42:16Speaker 2: Didn't get that, it's one billion, as in brother Biez
- 42:20Speaker 2: in brother, not million billion, the parents offering to put
- 42:24Speaker 2: up one billion dollars cash to get their sons out
- 42:31Speaker 2: of jail.
- 42:33Speaker 1: Maybe they were going to put in some equity into that, but.
- 42:36Speaker 2: One billion dollars bail to get their sons out and
- 42:41Speaker 2: having them imprisoned.
- 42:44Speaker 1: In a Miami high rise.
- 42:46Speaker 2: And the suffering part was that they wouldn't get a
- 42:49Speaker 2: beach front view ouch. That has to hurt. How dare
- 42:55Speaker 2: you mommy and daddy Christina? Yo, it's reminiss sent of
- 43:01Speaker 2: the last bid, well, the last three bids by Sean
- 43:03Speaker 2: Combs to get out on bid where he offered the
- 43:07Speaker 2: judge a multimillion dollar bill package. I think it was
- 43:10Speaker 2: twenty meal and he would stay in a Manhattan town
- 43:14Speaker 2: home with his own private security guards to keep him
- 43:17Speaker 2: from raping people. Eerie echo, right, And that's the draw,
- 43:23Speaker 2: right exactly.
- 43:25Speaker 6: I promised not to rape anybody during this time. I
- 43:28Speaker 6: promised that I'm not going to have any orgies. In fact,
- 43:30Speaker 6: I won't even have any women over so that in
- 43:33Speaker 6: and of itself is a huge punishment. This is the
- 43:35Speaker 6: same thing that we're seeing with these brothers, and quite frankly,
- 43:38Speaker 6: I don't know how much the parents can be trusted
- 43:41Speaker 6: in this whole situation because we talk about pretending to
- 43:44Speaker 6: have a perfect family. But I go back to the
- 43:46Speaker 6: sex bus that was sitting outside of their forty million
- 43:48Speaker 6: dollar home as the brothers were in high school, and
- 43:52Speaker 6: people have said witness testimony, they are saying that back
- 43:55Speaker 6: in those days that women in the scene, in the
- 43:57Speaker 6: Miami scene, because for some reason, high schools were in
- 44:00Speaker 6: the Miami scene. They were warned not to drink any
- 44:04Speaker 6: drinks that came from the brothers and to stay away
- 44:06Speaker 6: from the brothers.
- 44:06Speaker 11: The Alexander brothers are accused of using their wealth and
- 44:09Speaker 11: positions to create and facilitate opportunities to rape and sexually
- 44:13Speaker 11: assault women. So far, more than forty women have come
- 44:16Speaker 11: forward accusing the three Alexander brothers of sexual misconducts, and
- 44:20Speaker 11: investigators are asking other women who believe they have been.
- 44:23Speaker 1: Assaulted to call.
- 44:25Speaker 11: Attorneys for the brothers say they planned to plead not
- 44:27Speaker 11: guilty to the charges, which if convicted, could lend all
- 44:30Speaker 11: three brothers in prison for life.
- 44:32Speaker 2: As we are discussing these alleged acts, sex assault, rape, sodomies,
- 44:37Speaker 2: that's what we're saying. Reportedly date all the way back
- 44:42Speaker 2: when the real estate bros were in high school.
- 44:46Speaker 15: Listen as news of the arrests start to spread, stories
- 44:49Speaker 15: from the Alexander brothers high school years come to light.
- 44:52Speaker 15: Their history of sexual violence dates back decades to their
- 44:56Speaker 15: high school days in Miami, where they bragged about several
- 44:59Speaker 15: gang rapes. Prosecutors say each of the victims that the
- 45:02Speaker 15: government has interviewed from this period reported hearing that individuals involved,
- 45:07Speaker 15: including Tal Alexander, talked about the assaults at school, boasting
- 45:11Speaker 15: about running train on their victims and saying they wanted
- 45:15Speaker 15: to do it again.
- 45:16Speaker 1: You know, Lynn Shaw.
- 45:19Speaker 2: As many rape and sodomy cases that I've investigated, I
- 45:23Speaker 2: have tried, have pled out to jail time, have covered.
- 45:29Speaker 1: It's still it's disgusting.
- 45:33Speaker 2: It makes something and you want to die to hear
- 45:37Speaker 2: about them bragging about quote running train on the victims,
- 45:42Speaker 2: which means multiple rapists on one victim, saying they quote
- 45:46Speaker 2: wanted to.
- 45:46Speaker 1: Do it again.
- 45:49Speaker 2: It never ceases to be heartbreaking that a victim would
- 45:54Speaker 2: go through this.
- 45:56Speaker 9: Well, we can't die, Nancy. We have to stand for
- 45:58Speaker 9: those that don't have a voice. And I want us
- 46:01Speaker 9: to focus on two things here. I want us to
- 46:03Speaker 9: focus on where was Mama Alexander, we're talking about a
- 46:06Speaker 9: sex bus when these trio of triplets, dirty ditty triplets
- 46:10Speaker 9: were right part right in front of their their multimillion
- 46:14Speaker 9: dollar mansion. I'm telling you as a mother, I knew
- 46:16Speaker 9: when my kids moved a throw pillow on my couch.
- 46:20Speaker 9: Where were the parents at this time and throughout all
- 46:23Speaker 9: of this? The second thing I want to and we
- 46:25Speaker 9: have to talk about that because people have to start
- 46:27Speaker 9: standing up. Where were these parents? They were the talk
- 46:29Speaker 9: of the town. We're hearing, you know, in the Miami,
- 46:31Speaker 9: Florida area, so we should focus on that. I also
- 46:34Speaker 9: want to focus on You're not going to see their
- 46:36Speaker 9: wives in court with them. Those women are taking their
- 46:38Speaker 9: kids and running for the hills. One is already filed
- 46:40Speaker 9: for divorce. Okay, they're going to turn evidence on them.
- 46:43Speaker 9: They're beautiful young women, they have some young children, a
- 46:46Speaker 9: newborn baby. They're not sticking around for this. And the
- 46:49Speaker 9: third thing I want to get back to we're not
- 46:50Speaker 9: talking enough about is that oldest brother with his security firm.
- 46:54Speaker 9: There is video evidence. Where are all those videos going?
- 46:59Speaker 9: I guarantee, I hope we have a forensic accountant coming
- 47:01Speaker 9: along that they have been uploaded not only to control
- 47:05Speaker 9: their victims and to scare them. They have been uploaded
- 47:08Speaker 9: to porn sites where these monsters make millions and millions
- 47:12Speaker 9: of dollars across the globe. And these are things we
- 47:15Speaker 9: should be looking at now.
- 47:17Speaker 2: Taal and or In Alexander known as quote high end
- 47:20Speaker 2: realtors who have sold over one hundred million dollar properties
- 47:25Speaker 2: in Miami, New York City. The Hampton's the other brother,
- 47:30Speaker 2: the third one, and there's another one that was not indicted,
- 47:33Speaker 2: not involved in all of this a lawn. Alexander was
- 47:36Speaker 2: an executive. He worked at the family's multimillion dollar security
- 47:42Speaker 2: firm named Kent. The fourth brother was not involved in
- 47:47Speaker 2: any of these charges. After all, the tearful testimony of
- 47:51Speaker 2: the accusers, will the conviction stick. Trust me, They're already
- 47:57Speaker 2: gnashing their teeth and twisting their tails behind bars working
- 47:59Speaker 2: on an appeal. We wait as justice unfolds.
- 48:05Speaker 1: Goodbye friend,