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EDP53: Keely's Indoor WR / Castellon 10k & European Records / Osaka Marathon · Easy Double podcast

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  doing it well. This is easy double Welcome to
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  you. You're doing.
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  It well rang enough chat, go run.
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  Hello and welcome back to the Easy Double Podcast episode 53.
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  I'm joined as always by both my Co hosts.
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  Owen Smith dialed in on a Monday afternoon.
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  How are you doing, Owen? I'm doing well, Hada.
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  I'm looking to be here actually. I got attacked by a bird and the
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  dog this morning on my run. So yeah, just happy to be here
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  talking to you guys. Shit, sounds like you've had a
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  few problems. I spoke to you yesterday and you
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  tell me about your headphone scenario as well.
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  Boys. The last I think they come in
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  three of these things so the dog nearly had my headphones and
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  they got attacked by a bird and a dog chased me.
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  So hopefully asked three out of the way.
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  I'm just on a Teen Rd. night till the weekend where I'm
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  racing. So yeah, I just left myself in a
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  room that you apologize. And welcome also to Dean.
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  How are you doing? Just fresh off a gym session.
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  Fresh off a lift? No, no dogs or birds, just
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  smooth sailing over here. I think you're pretty stronger.
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  I have been watching, we're going off paced already, but
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  have you ever watched that? Anatoly?
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  Is that his lift videos as this guy walks around the gym and
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  he's like 79 kilos and he lifts over 300 kilos and he just goes
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  up to gym Bros and makes him look bad.
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  But I'm channelling that when I'm on a Monday afternoon.
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  Travana Find a Lift PR. No, but you know, when the guy
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  we were talking about did a week Christian Canes or whatever, is
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  he planning to run 215 in genes or is he just planning to like
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  run or 216 in genes or just plan to run 216?
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  I think just trying to run 26. I think he just wants to make
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  the qualifier. It's hard to know if it's a
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  genes on or genes off run. I don't follow it that quite
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  true it. Because he ran.
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  He ran and I want to say Austin Marathon, which is pretty hilly,
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  I think. And you, I'm like 237 in jeans
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  again, so you can see, like, yeah.
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  Yeah, why would you do it to yourself?
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  Running jeans. Ever.
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  The chafe. Would be horrific, but I don't
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  like that was Speaking of us some press who runs marathons
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  and jeans. It could be where we end up,
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  Ryan, where you've, you're talking to me on the weekend
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  about how you want to shave your legs and just ride full time.
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  If that gets us some traction then so be it, I'll put the
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  jeans on on the bike. OK?
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  Anyway, thanks to the listeners for being here with us as well.
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  I don't know how much I want to give away, but if you're
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  listening to this now, you're in for a massive week and easy
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  double. We've got a lot of content
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  coming your way in the next 7 to 10 days.
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  There's going to be two interviews dropping, one from
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  our inside of the pond or Great Britain and Ireland.
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  Won't give too much away there. And then the other one is a
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  current Australian record holder.
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  Won't say any more than that. So 2 very exciting interviews
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  coming your way there. One of them may have featured
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  quite highly in the People's champ votes of our end of season
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  awards last year. And then also we've got a very
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  exciting mini series in the Build Up to London Marathon
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  which will be being released this week.
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  And I'll allow the guys on that to introduce themselves as it
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  hits your ears. But yeah, you're going to need
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  approximately 5 to 6 hours worth of listening time.
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  And if your listeners this now and those episodes have dropped,
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  I will not be offended if you pause and don't come back to our
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  episode. How this episode looks.
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  We've got some results in the way of the Castillo 10K shock.
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  Another fast 10K in Spain. There was more indoor action in
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  Luvan. I think that was in Belgium.
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  Keely ran a world record box. He'll burn over in Victoria and
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  Osaka Marathon as well in Japan. News wise, we've seen some
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  outfly floors out on the road and some injury news from
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  Fenkelbal. Unfortunately we've got the
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  listener Q&A to get through, which we didn't touch last week
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  because we are waiting for Owen's Fire and Double Trouble
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  in YouTube Diaries as always. So I guess.
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  I'd just like to let you guys know that I actually do listen
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  to the episodes. So I I did hear you guys shout
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  about me behind my back, but we'll leave it there.
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  We'll we'll probably have to have a word with AD and D And
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  she must have listened on his behalf and told him she.
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  Snitched. Oh, he's got, I reckon he's just
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  got a few people working for him now on the scene.
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  An island. The listeners.
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  It's got informants, yeah. So what don't you say?
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  Right then, Levon indoors meet in Belgium, as we had on our
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  chat with Matt Sadden last week. It was looking like Keely was
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  going to go for a world record, and that she did.
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  So the women's 800 meters indoors over there.
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  Keely ran from the front came first by over 4 1/2 seconds in
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  an indoor world record of 154.87.
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  Audrey Wearo, who's been huge on the scene in the past couple of
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  years, been one of their main rivals, was second 158, And
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  Sigai, the Guma of Ethiopia, who's also usually quite
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  prominent there, than 158 high. Any thoughts?
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  I mean, I don't know, first First thought is, as you
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  mentioned, like second and third are people that were in
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  contesting for medals, weren't they in the world champs final
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  for the 800 meters? So very respectable athletes in
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  their own right. And then to to what are they 3
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  1/2 seconds behind Keely? And you could see it looks
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  worse, doesn't it? It looks more pronounced on an
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  indoor track, the gap. But it was like, yeah, it was
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  phenomenal. The like to gap everyone your
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  peers by so much. Pretty outrageous.
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  She looked so strong, didn't she?
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  She just like a level above the rest.
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  And you'd like to think like if Anca Ball was in it and she took
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  it out even harder. Like, what does Katie do again?
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  And yeah, she's just so, so hot. When I was listening to, I think
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  it was her interview afterwards, she says someone asked her about
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  the break. So apparently on the 200 meter
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  indoor track, up until I don't know when it was exactly, but
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  very recently, they broke after 50 meters, which means that just
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  one bend there, they would then, you know, have to find the way
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  over to the rail and fight for a spot.
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  And it's been changed to might been 165 or 150 at least anyway.
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  So they all hold position for like almost a whole lap.
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  And fair play to him, Jonathan Gaul, like we say, how
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  knowledgeable he is. Last week, before she'd done
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  this, he was talking about how that is influencing these fast
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  times on the indoor scene that we're seeing this year.
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  And then Keely kind of confirms it.
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  And she says, yeah, it's just so much better to.
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  If you think of it from her point of view, she's trying to
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  race to the front because she knows she's the best.
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  So she doesn't have to fight to get across.
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  She can just naturally let her fast opening lap take her to the
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  front. And you can see how much of an
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  impact that has on the runners. Like Sam rooted in his mile with
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  Cole Hawker, like, he was fighting for so long to try and
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  hit the rail and they just wouldn't let him in.
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  So like, when you have the sort of the 150 meters to try and
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  settle and sort of get moving, it does help you sort of relax.
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  And yeah, you can see like all the indoor times records have
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  been broken recently. Well, we know the difference on
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  a 400 meter track when you're going running in lane 2 versus
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  lane one and what's it doubled on a 200 meter track, The effect
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  of that because you're running twice the bends to do a full
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  lap. So the cost to you in terms of
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  mileage having to run wide is, is huge.
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  So everyone knows I need to hug the rail.
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  So that makes the race dynamics a lot more interesting, which is
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  good. Yeah, and I know with Femka's
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  run the other week, the big thing was like how fast she went
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  out for the 1st 200 was into like 27 flat, and I think
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  Keely's here was 26 something like the pacemaker just nailed
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  it. And in fairness to Keely, she
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  didn't, you can't use the word blow up in a world record run,
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  but she didn't back off as much as you may have thought she
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  would after opening in like 26 odd seconds.
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  But yeah, do you think she can? Can she take the outdoor world
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  record? Because as it stands now, it's
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  those two, I don't even know where they're from, like
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  Czechoslovakia or something from 50 and odd years ago who sit
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  above a 153 something. Can she get it done this year?
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  It'd be cool. It'd be nice just to erase those
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  records from that. Because we already know, let's
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  be real. If anyone isn't aware please
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  look up that female outdoor 800 meter world record and go to
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  images and you'll see why there is massive question marks.
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  Shades of Ryan 2021 about them. Basically, it's basically Dean
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  in the gym, what Dean looks like in the gym now.
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  But I think she could do it. That's what she's pushing for
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  this year. And there's no majors she can
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  like, yeah, I think she'll be. She'd be.
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  That's what that's her main goal probably is to get out the world
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  record. And she'd say, like, it's
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  inevitable. It's just a matter of when.
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  It's funny though, I had one of her interviews, I think it was
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  after that, when she ran the Heaths at British Indoors the
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  other week and she says something like, oh, you know,
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  like the weather's always good. And I know what she means,
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  obviously, like it's still conditions, but it just still
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  doesn't sound quite right. Like obviously the weather's
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  good. You bloody inside.
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  Yeah, it's what the it's what the Irish say in January.
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  Love the indoor indoor weather? We still haven't seen a dry day
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  yet so. Did you say, do you say that, do
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  we share that on social? The that post that was about
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  yeah, no dry days in Ireland yet in 2026.
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  Yeah, there's floods like it's even though yesterday was sunny,
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  well, like not sunny, but like blue skies.
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  So yeah, we're getting there. Shit, did you get endorphins off
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  that we outside run taking it all in.
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  My vitamin D went through the roof and I don't know, I was
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  chatting. By the bird attacked him, didn't
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  know what to do with itself. I was, I was chatting to people
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  at this. I was like, would you rather
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  like a really, really shit winter if that meant you get a
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  really, really good summer? Or would you rather just like
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  mediocrity, like the whole way through the year And like, I
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  don't know, I think I'd rather just like the middle the whole
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  way through the year because the winter guys, I was actually
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  contemplating like moving back to Australia.
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  It was, it's so, so hard to do. Like if you're, if you're
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  planning like like a March, February marathon, that whole
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  crit, it's hell. It's not, it's actually not fun.
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  Like you'd like to run on a treadmill until you actually
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  have to do it like 5-6 days a week.
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  Oh, and just to give Dean and the Australian listeners an
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  insight, people would often say, wouldn't they?
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  Like they would take the harsh winters on the chin if it meant
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  that all's what they would ask for is 2 weeks of solid nice hot
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  weather in the sunshine in the winter, in the summer, rather
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  two weeks people had killed for. Would you in Australia get like
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  freaking like 810 months of it? Well, it's going to be 37.
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  Is it tomorrow or Wednesday? So it could it gets too hot. 35
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  and 36 tomorrow, Wednesday. We're going to lose from the
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  He's going to hand his notice in on the podcast if we have all.
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  Right, let's get out of here. Let's move on.
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  All right, there was also a 1500 meter meet at Livon where
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  Georgia hunts a bell after scratching at British indoors
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  the week prior. Four days prior she took the win
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  in 4 flat .21 from some pretty talented runners in this race as
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  well. Two Ethiopians, Berka Halem and
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  Sarah Berry were second and third, just behind that and
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  Gemma Ricci. The Brit was also back and forth
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  after just winning British indoors the week prior.
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  So I guess this is of interest because Georgia Hunter Bell is
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  scheduled to come to Melbourne in four or five weeks time and
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  there's a little bit of a scare after she scratched it indoors,
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  but looks like we're on. Yeah, it's a good run. 4
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  minutes. I just think she was a nice run
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  and I think she was a nice run in UK and Doors.
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  Well, and as we learned, right, like what was the, what's the
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  incentive? Exactly.
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  If they can navigate a way through it without technically
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  having to go, then. They'll do.
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  There's a 2000m race which was won by Australia's Jess Hull in
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  526 from Salome Alfonso, Portugal and Agathe Guillemot of
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  France. They were 4 seconds back and six
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  seconds back respectively. So comfortable win for Jess.
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  On paper. It's an Australian national
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  record for the 2000 meters indoors to go with her 2K world
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  record on the outdoor track, and Dean's Justin that she might
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  have got a handy payday for taking that world record, which
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  I'm sure would have been part of the strategy and targets in this
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  race. Yeah, I don't know, like is
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  that's how these contracts are structured, aren't they?
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  So, and it's so interesting where they seem to delineate
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  between indoors and outdoors for a national record.
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  So it seems like the thing to do, doesn't it?
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  Yeah, and yours. And sorry, and Ryan, I'm
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  stealing your show notes here, but for context, what's that 7
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  seconds off the National, the world record she ran for outdoor
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  2000 meters? Yeah.
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  So it goes to show it was it was a soft record and it was up for
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  grabs. Yeah, because I mean, we're
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  talking about the 800 meters, which I mean is less than half
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  in terms of distance and therefore time.
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  But Keely was what, within a second of the outdoor record or
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  or or about a second away from the outdoor record?
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  Whereas 7 seconds. Like.
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  If this was a more comparable performance to her outdoor
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  record, you would think it would be more like 5/21/22 maybe?
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  Yeah, it's, it's a funny way, this one, because I was looking
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  at it a couple of ways at first. I looked at it like, oh, well,
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  she has run considerably fast to herself outdoors.
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  Therefore it is what it is. It's a good run.
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  She's got the record, but kind of no need to sensationalize it.
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  But then you look and what she's done to the rest of the field
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  and they're all still like very good athletes in themselves.
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  That guy Lemos from France really stands out as a name and
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  Rebe Walcott Nolan, she's like one of the best middle distance
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  girls for Great Britain. She's beaten her by 9 seconds so
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  don't know what to make of it. I.
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  Mean it's not bad going, is it? Like what's a 243 pace 22243
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  kilometers back-to-back? It's it's moving.
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  Just follow the wave light, head down and hope for the best.
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  There was a women's 3K which was won by Ethiopia's Frewani Hilu.
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  Ethiopian was second as well, but awake.
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  And then of note, Nadia Bataclati broke her own national
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  record in 3rd 826 I think. Oh yeah, she just missed the
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  European record of Laura Muir by three hundredths of a second.
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  So, I mean, given she already had the national record herself,
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  she probably wasn't really targeting that.
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  She would have been targeting the European record.
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  So close but no cigar in Australia's Lauren Ryan.
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  Oh yeah, yeah, was what, 7th? I was just going to comment on
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  Nadia's Patacledes run. Like feel like that's a little
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  bit of an upset given that she was what, two time outdoor
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  medalist, wasn't she over the five and 10K last year?
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  Like yes, I don't know. Like, I know you're dropping
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  down in distance, but if you were to pick one before the race
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  I reckon you would probably go Bataclede.
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  Or at least I would have. Yeah, I'm not sure about the
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  girl in second Al Shing Boaky, but hey, through any Halo I
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  think stands out. But yeah, obviously.
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  We know all about battle. Classy.
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  She's got the medals to go with it.
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  Lauren Ryan was 837 and looked at back at the world indoor
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  standard is 835 S No doubt she would have been trying to seal
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  that. Then she's come up slightly
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  short. I'm probably doing, hey, little
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  bit of a disservice there. She's two time indoor world
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  champion so. You'll let her have it then,
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  yeah? But like when that gorilla came
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  second, that's only her season's best, so she's running faster
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  than 8/26. Yeah, and Hayley's run 819.
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  Indoor. Outdoor indoor about this time
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  last year. Wow.
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  I'd be happy with that at the weekend, yeah.
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  Is that what you'd be shooting for, you think?
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  I don't know, see. Yeah, 8:15, 8/10.
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  Yeah, he'll see. There was a men's 800 meter,
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  which didn't really mean too much to me, but then I've seen
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  the guy who won was a Belgian guy, Elliot Creston.
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  Never heard of him admittedly. And then I've seen the time was
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  pretty quick, 143.91 and the guy, the guy in the past three
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  weeks alone in February 2026 as round three of the eleven,
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  fastest ever. He's run 143 twice and 144 low
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  in February. I don't know who he is.
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  He's been around a lot, Yeah. He's sort of like an indoor like
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  that's his jam. Get me?
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  He's just a journeyman, is he? He's Belgian, not German.
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  No, like a journey. I don't know, he's been around a
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  while and boy, he's freaking good at the under 800.
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  Yeah, right. Runs runs the Ben specialist.
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  I was thinking I had the one to watch that was coming through
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  low key but apparently not. He's closer to going the other
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  way. Want to scratch off soon?
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  And lastly from this meet, Adam Spencer warned the 1500 metres
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  Adam Spencer of Australia surprise, surprise when
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  qualifying standards are up for grabs and there's national
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  jerseys on the line. He does what's needed to be done
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  and he's ran himself the auto qualifier for World Indoors,
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  just sneaking inside 336 with a 335.25 and Valentin Soccer, who
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  we appear to say every single week runs himself and an area
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  record for South America in second.
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  This bloke's like a his manager must be like connected to horse
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  racing. I think he's MTC.
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  Fuck, give the poor bloke a spell.
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  He's earning that cash. Yeah.
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  What about the Irish blue Luke McCann in sick 3 sub 340?
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  Do you know it much? And he ran, he ran a really fast
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  and 800 there during the week. I think he got 147.
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  He's got come back from an injury.
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  He was out for like a year and a half.
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  And so he's on his like, come back.
• 23:41
  What's happened to it? Yeah, no.
• 23:45
  Come from world record shape to last.
• 23:49
  Do you say the Irish fellas are not on effort or?
• 23:52
  Yeah, he trains. He's in that on Oceana or on
• 23:55
  Europe. Sorry.
• 23:58
  And that's live on, so the indoor circus goes on.
• 24:05
  Yeah, we're going to head across the ocean, don't know what
• 24:09
  ocean, but there was a race late last night or Sunday even in
• 24:12
  America and it's like last chance be if so on that really
• 24:16
  fast track. And there was there was a mile
• 24:19
  for the men, women a 3K and then a 5K as well.
• 24:24
  So in the men's, the one mile was won by Jack Anstey in 352.
• 24:31
  And then just another little another note mention is James
• 24:34
  Gormley from Ireland. He ran 353.38, which is which is
• 24:40
  pretty good going in the women's side.
• 24:43
  Rachel MacArthur Cooper tears other half.
• 24:46
  She won it in 427. Helen.
• 24:54
  Yeah, Helen. She ran 427.93.
• 24:59
  And then at Lauren Ryan, she's a busy woman.
• 25:02
  She ran 428.48 in the men. She's.
• 25:07
  Gone from Belgium on Thursday to Boston on Sunday.
• 25:13
  Yeah. Wow.
• 25:17
  Yeah, What's the standard for the women's fifteens?
• 25:21
  I don't know what the mile equivalent is.
• 25:24
  Four O 6, don't know. Yeah, what she ran.
• 25:31
  So four O 6 for the 15 and she is after running 428?
• 25:35
  Surely not. I know Lauren Ryan is more of a
• 25:39
  distance girl than running a mile, but to be honest, I didn't
• 25:42
  realize Rachel MacArthur was even at the level to be able to
• 25:46
  put Lauren Ryan away in a mile race.
• 25:50
  Oh, she's good lad. Yeah.
• 25:53
  Yeah, she's in a band. And in the men's 3K, this is
• 25:58
  probably the big one. And Ernest Chariot from Arkansas
• 26:01
  around 740, some roofed the young New Zealand guy here on
• 26:07
  743, which I don't know if he'll be too happy.
• 26:11
  He'll just be like, Nah, I think he was hoping to run sub 740 but
• 26:17
  still like in under 20 New Zealand record.
• 26:19
  And now he's got the whole thing from like the 5K today 100 and
• 26:23
  which is crazy for a 16 year old.
• 26:25
  And then third was Brian Masai from Arkansas as well here on
• 26:28
  740 three another not mentioned, Henry Mclucky, he's UK based,
• 26:34
  he's around 803 so. Did you see some roof on Well,
• 26:40
  some roof and Santana on the Coffee club, have you heard
• 26:43
  that? That's why I said he was hoping.
• 26:46
  I think he was hoping for faster.
• 26:48
  Yeah, it's good. It's good lesson, isn't it?
• 26:50
  The way that the Coffee Club hosts are like, they're on the
• 26:56
  circuit themselves, the top level athletes, but they're just
• 26:58
  so chill and like take the piss. They're they're an easy listen,
• 27:02
  aren't they? And they make it like quite
• 27:03
  funny calling them Big Sam and Little Sam.
• 27:08
  Except no, Little Sam is sort of Big Sam because he's faster.
• 27:13
  I couldn't believe it when like, obviously you know, he's young,
• 27:16
  like 16. It is what it is.
• 27:18
  But then when they're talking about the potential for him to
• 27:21
  go to college and race on the NCAA circuit and he's like
• 27:25
  saying himself, well, it's 2 1/2 years away.
• 27:31
  It's outrageous. They're also saying that like he
• 27:35
  can't do world indoors because he'll have to miss too much
• 27:38
  school and then he's going to do that barram a mile and later on.
• 27:44
  So he has to sort of like pick and choose when he can like miss
• 27:46
  because fair enough in Europe and all, like they've got
• 27:50
  somewhere off. But it's the other way around in
• 27:53
  Australia. So he has to actually like pick
• 27:55
  and choose on when he misses skill.
• 27:57
  Yeah, it's just a very strange situation for a 16 year old to
• 28:00
  be in. He was telling them, wasn't he,
• 28:03
  that he's managed to negotiate like drop in first period
• 28:06
  basically so he can train in the morning and just head in at like
• 28:10
  mid morning. And he was saying it like
• 28:12
  straight faced, just it is what it is.
• 28:15
  And like Morgan and Ollie were like couldn't believe it, like,
• 28:19
  oh, why don't you get rid of last period whilst you're at it,
• 28:22
  like taking the piss. But this guy, it's just normal
• 28:25
  to him. He's like, so funny.
• 28:28
  But he doesn't seem to run that often like he only does like
• 28:32
  1900 KA week. So he he just runs once a day
• 28:36
  nearly. If that yeah, I think you're
• 28:38
  saying he's done. I think I heard his dad saying
• 28:40
  he's done not not up to double S And yeah, it's maybe like 7080
• 28:45
  KA week. Yeah, it was, it was sick.
• 28:50
  And then when he done like a bit of a loose training week and his
• 28:53
  easy days was like A9K run one day, A12K run the other day.
• 28:58
  His sessions were like nothing crazy.
• 29:01
  He was just like I might do 5 by AK on a Saturday and then some 4
• 29:07
  hundreds in the week and he totaled his case up as like 1890
• 29:11
  K and you're like it's actually sickening how you can be that
• 29:15
  good off such like simplistic low volume training.
• 29:19
  No altitude, No, you know. He's just like a one in a
• 29:24
  million type guy and really, isn't he?
• 29:28
  Bit of talent. And back to Boston, right?
• 29:31
  Women's 3K, just I just picked out Alexandra Alex Millard from
• 29:35
  the UK. She's New Balance out late.
• 29:37
  She ran 849 to come third. Yeah, no, I'm crazy there.
• 29:42
  And the men's 5K, Parker Wolf 1, he ran 12:59.
• 29:46
  So I think that's the first time he's gone under 13.
• 29:50
  Evans Brew Rui from Washington, he ran 1327 and Woody Kincaid,
• 29:56
  another night out late, he ran 1330, which I don't think he'd
• 30:01
  be too happy with. The women's 800, the Irish
• 30:05
  indoor national record went down.
• 30:07
  Maeve O'Neill, she runs for Providence and she ran 2 minutes
• 30:13
  and 33 seconds. So yeah, she's I'd say it's only
• 30:18
  a matter of time for an Irish woman.
• 30:20
  Like nails that sub two-minute barrier.
• 30:24
  And so does that mean it's the records faster in the outdoors
• 30:28
  someone's broke 2 minutes of they?
• 30:31
  Pretty sure yeah, it's faster. As well, Did she?
• 30:37
  She was on one at the start of the season last year, wasn't
• 30:40
  she? Sarah Haley, pretty sure,
• 30:41
  remember. She must be injured because she
• 30:44
  hasn't raced any indoors yet and she won an indoor world
• 30:47
  championship last year. Packer Wolf feels like while
• 30:51
  you're finding that Packer Wolf feels like the top American male
• 30:55
  at the minute, I think. Don't you?
• 30:57
  Would you agree? I'm pretty sure that he's.
• 31:01
  Just. As well.
• 31:04
  Oh really? It says the 100 meter is
• 31:07
  Roseanne Galligan who ran 200.58.
• 31:13
  I thought someone went under and Sonia Sullivan has the 1K to the
• 31:18
  10K. Monopolize the Irish record
• 31:22
  books. Yeah, actually, just while we're
• 31:26
  on Irish national records, Andrew Kosgren and he ran in
• 31:30
  France during the week, he lowered his own.
• 31:32
  He ran 333.09 and he ran very like, well, like he was pushing
• 31:40
  the pace the whole way and he just got caught near the end.
• 31:42
  I was like, no, there. I feel like if he didn't win the
• 31:47
  world championship he wouldn't be as good as he is now.
• 31:49
  I don't know. I think when and that gives you
• 31:50
  so much confidence and belief in yourself, that just brings one
• 31:53
  another level. And he ran at same race he won
• 31:57
  in 332.44. But yeah, I'm going to beat up
• 32:02
  Andrew Coster now at the weekend, him, Griggs and Michael
• 32:05
  Haney all in the 3K, so hopefully not get lapped.
• 32:11
  It's actually going to be hard. Not together you'll.
• 32:13
  Be on the in the start. Same field as them as well.
• 32:16
  Fingers crossed will be in the A race, yeah.
• 32:18
  I mean, it's a chance they go, what, 745?
• 32:23
  Yeah, it just depends on what way they run it, really.
• 32:25
  Yeah, they can do what they want.
• 32:26
  I don't think there'll be a 730, like 740 maybe, maybe like 750
• 32:32
  or something like that. Just a big kick down.
• 32:34
  Yeah. Goal is not to get lapped.
• 32:37
  OK. So what's the cut off for you to
• 32:39
  get lap then if it's going to be 30 seconds?
• 32:41
  The odd second laps if you run, don't want to put a time on it.
• 32:47
  But yeah, if they're going sub 7:45-ish then you're in trouble,
• 32:51
  aren't you? I'm in serious.
• 32:57
  It's actually, I think there'll be a stream as well so you can
• 33:01
  are we going over? Are you going for a slap on
• 33:02
  this? Do I get laughed or not?
• 33:06
  And Andrew will be on the last lap and he'll be, he'll see the
• 33:09
  back of you and he'll be like, shit, there's Owen.
• 33:11
  I'm going to get him and you'll like pull them over the finish
• 33:14
  line. Yeah, I'll be that day 10 that
• 33:17
  like doesn't move out of lane one.
• 33:18
  I was just like taking a poll lane.
• 33:23
  Now you won't get lap. Fingers crossed, yeah, you'll
• 33:29
  it'll be slow enough for you to survive, retain integrity.
• 33:36
  Like there's some big like when you're thinking about like under
• 33:39
  Costco in 730, Nick Griggs 732, and then Don Mclahaney is like
• 33:43
  73536. Like, they're three of the best
• 33:45
  in the world, arguably. And well, yeah, Andrew was
• 33:50
  literally. Running in the final of the
• 33:53
  men's 1500 in the last major champs, so yeah.
• 33:58
  So how have you gone from standing on an indoor track for
• 34:01
  the first time a couple of weeks ago to now stand on the indoor
• 34:05
  track for the second time against these lot?
• 34:09
  Tell me, I don't know, like it's like it be very fast.
• 34:13
  I just don't want to get lapped now.
• 34:16
  That's the main thing. Good sick experience so.
• 34:21
  Stop it sure, even like looking back at national fight K last
• 34:24
  year, like where from get a out of cost ground like it's just
• 34:28
  you'd be on the same starline these guys.
• 34:29
  It's pretty cool. So that's why it's sort of nice
• 34:31
  to see these run in the national champs, whereas the Brits just
• 34:35
  find a way to like not run it. Like I guarantee you the indoor
• 34:40
  arena and Dublin is going to be after you packed and just to see
• 34:44
  like because all the Irish athletes come home.
• 34:46
  I don't think the wonder she died like if she won't come
• 34:48
  home, but a lot of the main ones will be there.
• 34:50
  And like Irish running is on an all time high that like these
• 34:53
  guys are actually genuinely some of the best in the world.
• 34:56
  So it's so cool to see them. Like even we're not them.
• 35:01
  What was the like prerequisite for you to get a start
• 35:05
  basically? So anyone can like actually
• 35:10
  enter it just be a powerful club and then you put down like your
• 35:14
  PB or a time you want to run and then they split you into heats.
• 35:17
  So I think there's like 56 entered.
• 35:20
  Like Andrews closed last night, I think there's like 56 actually
• 35:23
  like 3000 mirror male lads running.
• 35:26
  So they'll have like AC race, AB race and an A race and fingers
• 35:31
  crossed while being there is. It's just come to me then that,
• 35:35
  you know, when we're speaking about live on before one of our
• 35:37
  listeners was that was actually their trackside and they were
• 35:40
  sending a few videos through to the Instagram accounts.
• 35:42
  Like it looks so sick. And the guy, I think he must be
• 35:47
  a student in France because when I was messaging him back and
• 35:51
  forth, he said after the meet, yeah, I'm just jogging back home
• 35:55
  to France now. So Livonne must be like very
• 35:57
  much on the border, Belgium and France.
• 36:00
  Is that your man, Luke, Dorothy or?
• 36:03
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's American.
• 36:07
  Is he? Well, to be honest, because he
• 36:10
  was said he was living in France and his name's like Dushete, I
• 36:14
  was reading it as I thought he's a French guy.
• 36:17
  Of course, I think he's got an American club or something in
• 36:20
  his bio or something like that, or he's run some of his runs
• 36:23
  around America. I don't know.
• 36:25
  Yeah, it's cool. Easy double air everywhere.
• 36:28
  Yeah, I said I'll use some of his photos and videos for the
• 36:31
  post this week. And he was like, yeah, happy
• 36:33
  days. I asked him for some of Keely's
• 36:36
  run. He was like, no, I was just, I
• 36:37
  was in the moment. It's like fair.
• 36:39
  Play respect that. Yeah, but use talking about
• 36:44
  Costco and reminded me of it because I think he got some sick
• 36:48
  footage. Right.
• 36:52
  Let's wrap the results up. Box Hill burn happened.
• 36:55
  Was it Thursday night over in Melbourne.
• 36:59
  Bit of shame on the back of Perth track Classic that the 5K
• 37:02
  there was so weak and then the 5K here was so deep.
• 37:05
  But you know, these guys, they're going to make sensible
• 37:08
  decisions if, if they can all RIP a fast 5K half an hour up
• 37:12
  the road, then that's what they're going to do.
• 37:15
  So the field was Liam Cashin, Adam Goddard, Calm Davis, Seth
• 37:20
  O'Donnell, Brett Robinson, so very deep domestic field.
• 37:24
  And then Brett was stepping down from his marathon and half
• 37:27
  marathons, switching it off. And he's had a bit of a tough
• 37:31
  time of it recently. So it was fantastic to see him
• 37:34
  get the win in 1328 over Seth who done as usual going off the
• 37:39
  front 1329. He ended up finishing second and
• 37:44
  Carl Davis battled on for 3rd, 30 and 31.
• 37:48
  Did you watch the stream? Thoughts.
• 37:53
  Stream was good and race wise like I think set doing settings
• 37:58
  I just don't think he might have had an injury or something post
• 38:00
  worlds or he had time off because he's just not really
• 38:03
  himself. Like he had to go to the arms
• 38:04
  pretty early and just knew like I think Brian Faye was pacing
• 38:08
  Brett Robinson, so he might have brought him through like 2 1/2
• 38:12
  to 3K or something like that. And Brett looked so good and
• 38:15
  like what, like 100 to go, K to go.
• 38:17
  You could just see like Brett was was cruising and like set
• 38:20
  was in trouble unfairly to set. Like he hung on both.
• 38:23
  I'm so happy for Brett. Like even coming from the
• 38:28
  marathon, like to be able to run like 1328, like it actually is
• 38:32
  phenomenal and like it was doing the world of God.
• 38:35
  I'd love to see like what Martin he'll pick and after like the
• 38:39
  speed block because I wouldn't put it past him like running
• 38:41
  super, super fast over the half and the full.
• 38:45
  Yeah, you'd love to see it get some confidence back.
• 38:49
  And yeah, what was it like 600 to go or something?
• 38:53
  And you could see him like starting to look around Brett
• 38:56
  like. And he knew that it was on at
• 38:59
  that point, didn't he was like, right, Seth, I'm coming to get
• 39:01
  you now. You better still have something
• 39:03
  left because I'm feeling, I'm feeling pretty good there.
• 39:07
  And he like kind of wound them in.
• 39:08
  Do you have maybe 20 meters if not a little bit more at one
• 39:11
  point? Yeah, he's very brave.
• 39:16
  Like he sort of had to go by him as well.
• 39:18
  Like I wouldn't have sat on set and he had to go by him and like
• 39:22
  sort of squeeze set. So I thought you run it really,
• 39:24
  really well. Yeah, and you're right, Seth did
• 39:27
  cling underneath. He attached to Brett ever so
• 39:30
  slightly as he went past and then Brett goes to the arms in
• 39:34
  in the final straight and he's he's done a few shoulder checks
• 39:37
  already by that point. So I was like, yes, is he is he
• 39:40
  running out of fuel here himself?
• 39:42
  And he proper dug in, didn't need the facials and everything
• 39:45
  class. That's a savage mate.
• 39:47
  I ran that 2-3 years ago in in box, so I'm just the atmosphere.
• 39:53
  I think Stewie Mcswain was running the 1K, went for the
• 39:55
  World for the record in the 1K when I was there that time.
• 39:59
  But even this year, like having your man is it Mitch Dyer on the
• 40:03
  mic? He's so good on the micran and
• 40:05
  atmosphere and even had this guy on like a freaking like
• 40:10
  electronics J board going around getting Sportage.
• 40:12
  He was just such a well organized event.
• 40:16
  Yeah, he's sick, that guy, isn't he?
• 40:18
  Magic Moments I think is Instagram, like some of the
• 40:22
  content that you can put together.
• 40:25
  He almost acts as like a unofficial pacemaker though with
• 40:29
  the way he rides alongside them. If he just rides, you'd be like
• 40:32
  you just ride that consistent pace and we'll just get another
• 40:36
  68 second lap here, that'll be alright.
• 40:39
  I think Liam Stocky ran it as well and he got your man.
• 40:42
  Took a nice video of Liam Stocky running skill.
• 40:47
  Yeah, it's our boy. Moorcroft was in the 1000
• 40:51
  meters. He finished second to a Maltese
• 40:54
  guy. I don't know if I presume this
• 40:56
  guy just lives in Australia, and he's obviously still
• 40:59
  representing Malta, but Tom ran 224, which is obscenely fast
• 41:05
  really, isn't it? I think they refer themselves as
• 41:08
  Maltesers. Is this that the politically
• 41:13
  correct? Actually, I'm pretty sure it is.
• 41:19
  I reckon they just say they're Maltese.
• 41:23
  Oh, maybe you're right. Well, Maltese, Yeah, sorry,
• 41:27
  they're not Maltese. I'll have to check the
• 41:34
  demographics, see if we've got any Maltese on board, but we
• 41:37
  won't do it next week. I'm sorry guys.
• 41:41
  We've I've got a few more Tasers on board.
• 41:43
  We had them on Saturday. But no, Tommy Warcraft ran a
• 41:48
  good race, didn't he? 224 Like that's moving.
• 41:51
  And I want to say like, fair enough. 335 pace, something like
• 41:56
  that. Yeah, yeah, He's fit.
• 42:01
  He's. He's around 1:49 I think.
• 42:03
  Last year didn't he over 800? Like I didn't realize that until
• 42:07
  I think the other week and Raph mentioned it in conversation.
• 42:09
  I was like, shit, that's like he's getting close there isn't
• 42:13
  he? I know like 4 seconds is huge
• 42:17
  but it's also not like if you just make that one big jump run
• 42:23
  230 second PB. Jump over to Jr., you reckon?
• 42:26
  Yeah, yeah, exactly. He needs a bit of Josh Howie
• 42:30
  juice. Bit of Gnomeo fly carb form
• 42:36
  we've. Got the We've got the package.
• 42:38
  Solve the problem. And then more recently, moving
• 42:43
  on from voxel burn over to Spain, there was the Castillo
• 42:47
  10K, which surprise surprise is part of the greater region of
• 42:51
  Valencia because I was like another 10K.
• 42:55
  I'm just going to have a look whereabouts this is and the
• 42:57
  Wikipedia says like a province in the northern part of
• 43:01
  Valencian community. It's a cheat code over there,
• 43:06
  isn't it? And I think this one is like,
• 43:08
  you can run faster, the buildings are higher, so you're
• 43:11
  more shaded. Like valence is pretty open,
• 43:14
  whereas this one, you're literally run down streets.
• 43:15
  It's very, very like shaded and sheltered.
• 43:20
  However, saying that, it's not organized as well as Valencia.
• 43:27
  Did you see the video of the start line?
• 43:30
  Yeah, it was terrible. So basically in Valencia, the
• 43:33
  elites are right in front and then the gun goes off they go
• 43:37
  and they slowly bring up the waves.
• 43:39
  So then there was my wave, wave 130 seconds later.
• 43:43
  They let us off 30 seconds later.
• 43:45
  So they let everyone off. They push everyone up every 30
• 43:47
  seconds. Whereas this one gun goes, it's
• 43:50
  a free for all. And I think a girl in a like a
• 43:53
  Nike pro kit, she fell. So then people are just like
• 43:57
  jumping over her, running everywhere around her.
• 43:59
  And then there's a massive big pile up.
• 44:02
  I'll send you we should share the video to the to the end
• 44:05
  story because actually it's crazy and like you're helpless
• 44:08
  because people like runners once they start the watch, it's just
• 44:13
  every man for himself. I don't care if someone's in
• 44:15
  front of me. They're just jumping over them.
• 44:17
  And it looks it's so, so, so dangerous.
• 44:19
  Like the women shouldn't have to deal with that.
• 44:22
  And because men are going to be stronger, they're going to be
• 44:24
  pushing. And we all know from the start
• 44:26
  line, like you get elbows everywhere.
• 44:28
  And so, yeah, it's not really fair.
• 44:32
  And it looked so dangerous. It's a bit of a tough watch,
• 44:36
  isn't it, Because she turns, obviously she should panic, but
• 44:39
  she turns back and is like facing then the masses like
• 44:43
  coming towards her. But it was quite lucky because
• 44:46
  then it seemed like there was a another like bit of a holder
• 44:50
  just behind there which kind of stopped everyone just Stampede
• 44:54
  and over it. And I think.
• 44:56
  But like, then there's like bibs on the ground.
• 44:58
  So if some people are calling back to try and get their bib,
• 45:01
  because obviously the chip is in the bib and if you don't have
• 45:04
  your bib when you're crossing the line, you'll see there's no
• 45:06
  thing to like stop your time if you get me.
• 45:09
  So then there's a young lad running back to try and pick up.
• 45:11
  There's like loads of bibs on the ground.
• 45:12
  He's picking up trying to find his bib and then he gets going
• 45:14
  again. Yeah, bit of a disaster from the
• 45:19
  South. The results read well though, so
• 45:22
  I mean we'll get into this in a in a minute.
• 45:24
  European record in both the men and the women is.
• 45:28
  What's? In the media.
• 45:31
  So Megan Keith no, she didn't win the women women's race shot.
• 45:37
  She finished fourth. She ran thirty O 7 for, I
• 45:41
  genuinely don't know everywhere's saying European
• 45:43
  record. And then I look on World
• 45:46
  Athletics and the woman who's listed first has ran a thirty O
• 45:52
  5 and she's Israeli, which made me think, well, is Israel
• 46:01
  considered part of Europe or not?
• 46:03
  But then when you look into this, so she's called loner
• 46:06
  Solpita, you look into her background.
• 46:09
  She's raced for Israel for a while.
• 46:12
  She's Kenyan originally but like she's raced for Israel for over
• 46:16
  10 years, represented them multiple major championships but
• 46:21
  them Israel have also been a part of European athletics for
• 46:26
  20 odd years. So I don't know if this result
• 46:31
  has been wiped and like well athletics just doesn't reflect
• 46:34
  it. But Megan Keith's run from 24
• 46:38
  hours ago appears there. So I don't understand why this
• 46:43
  salt pieces run if she wasn't the record holder and why it
• 46:47
  would be there. It's really quite confusing.
• 46:51
  Yeah, it doesn't make sense to me.
• 46:53
  I do remember in terms of following that Lorna Salpetto
• 46:56
  her like she's been, she was up in like the leading like the
• 47:00
  Doha world champ, you know, 2019 world champs at Julian raced in
• 47:06
  that's spoken about and other major championships.
• 47:10
  Like, she's quite aggressive and I remember her might have been
• 47:14
  Matt Fox with Sweat Elite, might have done her video showcasing
• 47:18
  her training as well. I remember or learning about her
• 47:20
  training, but she's been around for quite some time.
• 47:24
  But as to why it's not, Yeah, who's contesting?
• 47:29
  What is the record? I don't know.
• 47:33
  All very fast times. That's what we do know.
• 47:37
  Yeah, all very fast. So she finished fourth behind
• 47:41
  the woman who won. It was 2934 sub 30 minutes.
• 47:44
  Caroline Gatonga had a little look into her.
• 47:51
  There's 30. So in reference to Megan Keith
• 47:55
  running potentially a European record, if it's not European
• 47:58
  record, certainly a great British record, she'd be Irish.
• 48:01
  Mcculligan's record by a second, 34 African women have ran under
• 48:09
  30 minutes and then Keith potentially has the European
• 48:14
  record and that's just wild, isn't it?
• 48:17
  Like how can there be 34 African women ahead of the European
• 48:22
  record holder? They just have like such a grip
• 48:25
  on that 10K distance. They've broken 29 as well.
• 48:30
  Haven't. They I think the records 28
• 48:33
  something that only ones the cross country the whole time is
• 48:36
  run 28 something. Yeah, 28.
• 48:41
  That's. Normal, yeah.
• 48:45
  But fair play to Megan Keith, right?
• 48:47
  That was it to run that time. She's also taken one minute and
• 48:51
  15 seconds off her own PB like that is at that level.
• 48:54
  There's a massive jump, isn't it?
• 48:56
  How much did you run a PB by in? Me the other day, 21 seconds. 21
• 49:03
  yeah, and or in Valencia, isn't it?
• 49:05
  Yeah. In Valencia, I ran a minute.
• 49:08
  Yeah, nearly a minute. But arguing like Megan Keep the
• 49:13
  jump, Megan Keep made us harder because she's fast.
• 49:15
  Like she's just like, it's just faster.
• 49:20
  Like even the stream, the stream again was a joke.
• 49:23
  They were concentrating on McCall again.
• 49:25
  And like McCall again was like, well, back.
• 49:29
  And then they're like, oh, they're waiting for Megan Keep
• 49:31
  to come in. Little did they know, like Megan
• 49:33
  Key had already come in. I had a McCall again, like
• 49:36
  disrespect. She's preparing for London
• 49:41
  Mccolgan, isn't she? Yeah, she'd have her life.
• 49:46
  So I mean, to be fair, to be running a 3030 ten KA month or
• 49:52
  no more than a month in the London block anyway, I think
• 49:56
  that bodes well because she made a debut.
• 49:58
  Was it just last year in the marathon?
• 50:00
  It was not disappointing, but it it she was trying to break 220,
• 50:04
  wasn't she? I think that was the goal break
• 50:05
  220 on debut and she obviously didn't do it but she's that run
• 50:10
  suggests she's she's got decent legs and decent pace underneath
• 50:14
  her this time round. Well, I don't care.
• 50:17
  She's up in front remote. Like why the hell would you go
• 50:19
  near that place? If there's like freaking 10 feet
• 50:22
  of snow up there, you're just going to be bound to a woodway
• 50:24
  treadmill. It's just it's no fun.
• 50:27
  Like what's the point? The fair enough.
• 50:28
  It's not really high altitude, but like your son, at ease Were
• 50:31
  more than a little bit of altitude gains run again.
• 50:35
  You see a story out the hotel window.
• 50:38
  She was like running around a car park like 100 times, like
• 50:41
  it's crazy stuff. Just on that, have you has
• 50:47
  anyone popped up on your algorithm?
• 50:49
  This guy that like runs on his fridge that does like these and
• 50:56
  he's done it like in like a like a like a day, like sauna day bed
• 51:02
  and like it hasn't come off on your feet.
• 51:07
  Yeah, I need to get the OMTI used to shut them down I think.
• 51:12
  It gets me every time though. It isn't he's isn't physically
• 51:18
  moving so don't understand how he manages to produce like a GPS
• 51:22
  to think he's gone 40 kilometers.
• 51:24
  He's done one like in his washing machine.
• 51:28
  He's just rolling circles inside his washing washing machine.
• 51:32
  Is it like 5 KS he does? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 51:36
  Funny. Yeah, my mate who's not into
• 51:40
  running like in the slightest sends me the video every time it
• 51:44
  pops up and I'm like, oh, will you go away?
• 51:49
  In the men's race, the guy who won her birth, Kabeth 2639,
• 51:56
  absolutely blisteringly fast, sixth fastest time ever, Ugandan
• 52:00
  bloke who trains with chapter guy and chapter guys group.
• 52:04
  I think it was his debut. How can you run sub 27 on debut
• 52:10
  out of nowhere? It's it's wild.
• 52:15
  I can tell you how you can run so 27 on debut.
• 52:17
  Ryan, if you want to know, enlighten me.
• 52:22
  Nah, I will give him benefit of the doubt, but yeah, it's just
• 52:28
  crazy fast, isn't it? For your, I think this is his
• 52:32
  debut chopstick, born in 2005 and just slapping up freaking
• 52:37
  Andres Armgren and your man Schrob.
• 52:40
  Yeah, figure out what you will. But like, for the sake of
• 52:44
  athletics, I really hope it's clean.
• 52:48
  When he got going, like he didn't off start moving as well,
• 52:51
  didn't he? It was kind of like Almgren and
• 52:53
  Shrub went to the front and we're looking to like start
• 52:56
  pushing it on. And then this guy said I was is
• 53:00
  it time to go? Is it?
• 53:01
  And he just like, dropped them. Yeah, and he the thing that
• 53:06
  really annoys me is when they crossed the line, he's not
• 53:08
  tired. Like surely after running that
• 53:13
  you're a little bit out of breath.
• 53:15
  Like the chop, you're just chilling.
• 53:17
  In fairness, Almgren never looks it like he's.
• 53:21
  It's like you that physically fit that it can exhaust you in
• 53:25
  the exact moments, but then as soon as you stop you're like OK
• 53:29
  I'm fine. Yes, turn on.
• 53:35
  So Jan Schrub, the French guy, ended up finishing ahead of
• 53:39
  Andres Almgren. They were second and third and
• 53:41
  Shrub takes the European record away from Almgren, who was
• 53:44
  trying to lower his own record and ends up walking away as the
• 53:47
  non record holder. And he said he missed one of his
• 53:53
  big specific workouts, I think in the week prior.
• 53:57
  And he said I just didn't have the power in my legs.
• 54:00
  I had enough power to run 2645. I wouldn't mind.
• 54:03
  I wouldn't mind that myself. I work, I'm like the opposite,
• 54:08
  like I'm sort of freshen up when I don't try and he like becomes
• 54:11
  stale, different levels. And you know the guy who was
• 54:16
  patient because I've seen him getting interviewed in the week
• 54:20
  leading up to asking him about like, are you up to the task
• 54:22
  type thing? Because he was tasked with 1320
• 54:25
  through 5K. Yeah, Mike Fopp and the Dutch
• 54:28
  guy, he's like always makes Diamond League fields,
• 54:33
  potentially world champ semis and if not finals.
• 54:37
  So this guy's a legit athlete and they're they're asking him
• 54:41
  whether he can take the 10K runners through 5K, whether he's
• 54:44
  up to the task. And you see him that third and
• 54:48
  4th and 5th K, he's like fully driving his arms, isn't he?
• 54:52
  He's having to work for it. But fair play to him.
• 54:54
  He literally nailed the pacing job.
• 54:56
  Didn't he think straight through like 13/21/22 maybe?
• 55:01
  Like no other athlete can do that.
• 55:03
  You'd have to have a pro athlete to pace like that race.
• 55:06
  It's the time to put back-to-back.
• 55:09
  Like the fight case that's they put back-to-back is like not.
• 55:13
  Yeah, when we're just talking about Brett having a great race
• 55:16
  as like former Australian record holder in the marathon running
• 55:20
  1329 and then these guys are splitting half the race quicker
• 55:25
  than that. So last of the results, back
• 55:29
  over to Asia. There's a big marathon going
• 55:32
  down. Yeah, the second marathon one
• 55:37
  that I've run a couple of times. I don't know if we're recording
• 55:43
  this when, when this was around, when this was run last year, but
• 55:47
  like there used to be a like a men's only Invitational race.
• 55:51
  So like B1 marathon, I'm not sure if you've heard it spoken
• 55:54
  about, but it was like a small men's only.
• 55:58
  You needed 2 1/2 hours or quicker to qualify that race.
• 56:03
  I ran in 2020, but then during COVID it ceased happening.
• 56:07
  And so they merged that event. They sort of rebirthed it one
• 56:12
  year during COVID just for Japanese athletes and then they
• 56:15
  put it, they bolted it onto the Asaka Marathon.
• 56:18
  So as a result, the Asaka Marathon has quite a good elite
• 56:24
  and sub elite program. So it tends to get quite deep
• 56:26
  fields. So and this race was no
• 56:29
  different. So for context, 100th place in
• 56:34
  the Osaka Marathon this year was in 2/18/31.
• 56:40
  And so for context like probably the deepest marathon in the
• 56:43
  world I would suggest is in terms of the fastest and deepest
• 56:48
  marathon would be Valencia. So Valencia last year was
• 56:50
  2/17/11 for 100. So sort of gives you some some
• 56:55
  idea of the depth of the race, albeit that what tends to happen
• 56:59
  in this race is that the first half is run much quicker than
• 57:03
  the second-half. The Japanese tend to go out
• 57:05
  pretty fast, but the winners this year was Ibrahim Hassan
• 57:11
  from Djibouti in a in a national record of 2/05/20 and of no of
• 57:18
  what? That was the winning time.
• 57:20
  And Marie de Barbour from Ethiopia was the winner also in
• 57:24
  a champion in a course record of 22144.
• 57:28
  So fast times for the Osaka Marathon.
• 57:30
  I think it's largely flat with a few U turns and some small
• 57:34
  pinches, but nothing substantial.
• 57:37
  So yeah, both, both those times particularly fast, some other
• 57:41
  notable. Do the Kenyans normally?
• 57:44
  Do the East Africans normally help this one?
• 57:48
  Yeah, so the same agents that I've seen present say like
• 57:52
  Sydney and other marathons will have a field you normally have
• 57:57
  like the top 10 bibs, men and women.
• 58:01
  There's like a, they call them like invited athletes and
• 58:04
  there's normally say 10 or so E Africans, 10 or so Japanese
• 58:08
  runners. So in that league group, you
• 58:11
  often get at least a handful of of top Kenyans running Kenyans
• 58:16
  running it. I think when I did it in 2023, a
• 58:19
  young Japanese guy, like a Japanese uni student won it.
• 58:23
  It was quite wet that year and it was a bit of an upset, which
• 58:27
  was pretty cool. But yeah, it's normally one in
• 58:31
  around 205206 I think like in the lead pack, like when I did
• 58:37
  it, the top 100 or went through 10K in like 30 flat.
• 58:42
  So there's just this super PAC that's running, you know, at
• 58:44
  that 206 pace. Yeah, I was just going to say
• 58:48
  look at the women's results. Seven of the top 8 finishers are
• 58:53
  all different national. Well, there's seven different
• 58:55
  nationalities in the top 8. Let's go.
• 58:58
  Yeah, that, that is cool. And I think it might pay down to
• 59:02
  top 8. So Tara Palm who's from SA, she
• 59:06
  was 8th IN23158 and I remember Tara went over has been, has
• 59:12
  raced that race before so must have fond memories of that and
• 59:17
  it's run very well again. That's a couple of Japan trips
• 59:21
  in the space of six months for her on the back of Tokyo.
• 59:27
  Well, yeah. And on the men's side, 14th
• 59:33
  place a little bit further down, was a guy by the name of Ethan
• 59:38
  Shewley, who I must admit I hadn't heard of.
• 59:42
  I know Ryan, you, you, you'd spotted him in one of Jake's
• 59:47
  YouTube videos. But he he's a film student,
• 59:53
  former BYU alumni who apparently took a bit of a break from
• 1:00:00
  running. Went to Japan for film study and
• 1:00:02
  has reignited his running career.
• 1:00:05
  And yeah, ran 2/07/14 which is number six all time for America.
• 1:00:11
  An American guy. He was on American record pace
• 1:00:15
  for a while. Was he?
• 1:00:18
  Like like this was surprising. But then his half is 6102, which
• 1:00:25
  he sat in January. So surely when you look at that
• 1:00:27
  like, it's not that surprising days after running a, does that
• 1:00:31
  equate like? Close.
• 1:00:33
  Yeah. I mean like double, you know,
• 1:00:35
  like double +7, so 209, yeah. But I think he might have done
• 1:00:40
  that maybe in a bit of a marathon block, I suppose.
• 1:00:43
  I mean, you, I checked on Strava, He was doing some pretty
• 1:00:47
  outrageous mileage in the lead up.
• 1:00:50
  And I actually watched and maybe we're segueing early with into
• 1:00:54
  YouTube Diaries, but he has a YouTube channel and I watched,
• 1:00:59
  he ran the I think the Kobe marathon in November or so of
• 1:01:03
  last year. That's pretty cool.
• 1:01:05
  It's a pretty good video. Like because he goes into the
• 1:01:10
  experience of prior to then his best time was 218.
• 1:01:14
  And so he couldn't get into the elite field at Kobe.
• 1:01:17
  And so he's a bit like you Owen, in some of these Japanese races
• 1:01:20
  where he had to start in like corral S or something like that.
• 1:01:24
  And basically he, he dropped like a 250 first kilometre of
• 1:01:28
  the marathon to join the, the lead pack, like the the main
• 1:01:34
  elite pack. And, and I, and I don't know if
• 1:01:39
  he paid for that, but he ended up finishing second.
• 1:01:40
  Like it like there's like a handful of East Africans leading
• 1:01:44
  that race and along with some very strong Japanese.
• 1:01:46
  And he ended up finishing second, like 10 seconds off the
• 1:01:48
  win in 210, I think, or two, No 211, two 11211.
• 1:01:53
  Yeah. So and he sort of suggested in
• 1:01:56
  that that he had more whether or not, but 4 minutes more is a
• 1:01:59
  lot. So yeah, he look, I mean, he
• 1:02:02
  looks really smooth at that three minute K pace, doesn't he?
• 1:02:07
  Yeah. But like some people, I think I
• 1:02:09
  was who was a listener podcast, I think was one of the FTK ones,
• 1:02:16
  I was like, dude, Thomas done a test to find out like which pace
• 1:02:20
  he was most efficient at. And like at like at 3:30, he's
• 1:02:24
  just too good. Hold out for days.
• 1:02:25
  He's just so efficient at that. So you might even Chewy, that
• 1:02:28
  must be his, just where his spot where he's so smooth.
• 1:02:33
  Even so with that 61 half, like obviously he's incredibly fast,
• 1:02:38
  but how bold do you have to be to still then go and put it on
• 1:02:43
  the line and go out at like 205 pace?
• 1:02:46
  Because he could have locked in like no risks, a sub 210 run and
• 1:02:51
  just played the safe game and he's potentially blown his own
• 1:02:54
  race up to chase. More like fair play.
• 1:02:58
  I don't know. I think it's smart because
• 1:02:59
  there's probably no group going to 10.
• 1:03:01
  They're all them. Japanese are crazy.
• 1:03:02
  They just go 205. So it's pretty easier to just go
• 1:03:05
  with them. That, yeah, that, yeah, I think
• 1:03:07
  if you're running in one of those European races where
• 1:03:10
  they're like got multiple pace groups.
• 1:03:13
  But that race in particular, like you, I just remember seeing
• 1:03:16
  it because I remember going over there with a Kiwi guy and he's
• 1:03:19
  like, I don't know who I'm going to run with because like, you're
• 1:03:21
  either going at the pace or you're not.
• 1:03:24
  And they have two pace groups set up for outrageously fast
• 1:03:27
  paces at the front. And then it's daylight.
• 1:03:31
  I think that what I from what I remember of him in Jake's video
• 1:03:34
  was Jake was like kind of begging him up saying this like
• 1:03:38
  watch out for this guy type thing.
• 1:03:40
  I can't remember what video it was.
• 1:03:42
  It's definitely in the past month or so.
• 1:03:44
  And I'm sure they were just like stood trackside.
• 1:03:46
  They just done a workout together.
• 1:03:50
  He done that fast 10K that Jake done around there that Japanese
• 1:03:54
  also called here. It's the Tokyo legacy 10 or
• 1:03:58
  something about done some time K probably in that video.
• 1:04:00
  But surely if you're Jake like what the hell are you not
• 1:04:02
  training with him? I feel like both speak English
• 1:04:05
  like they're both similar ability and like why not?
• 1:04:10
  And log in some serious case. This guy was up to like 260 KA
• 1:04:13
  week. So what Jake is doing?
• 1:04:16
  Yeah, yeah. I know not as consistently, but
• 1:04:19
  still, yeah, still very cool. So worth a follow both on
• 1:04:24
  YouTube and on Strava. I would say.
• 1:04:26
  Post all these activities on there.
• 1:04:29
  Again, going back to Jonathan Gauls, like Japan Running News
• 1:04:33
  cover these Japanese races really, really well on X as in
• 1:04:37
  like whilst the race is going on, they'll post what's
• 1:04:40
  happening at the front of the race, like who's on what pace
• 1:04:43
  kind of thing, who's leading, what's happening at halfway.
• 1:04:47
  And the account tweeted Japan, Japan run news tweeted USA is
• 1:04:53
  Ethan Julie is through. I can't remember if it's halfway
• 1:04:57
  10K whatever it was in 204 national record pace.
• 1:05:03
  And Jonathan Gol like quote tweeted it saying USA is who is
• 1:05:08
  on pace for what. So I think this guy is going to
• 1:05:14
  be the talk of the week. You know, the way like there
• 1:05:16
  seems to be one story which kind of blows up and everyone's
• 1:05:19
  speaking about it. He he's that guy this week.
• 1:05:22
  Like what has Fate and Young run?
• 1:05:27
  Yeah. He's literally number six on
• 1:05:29
  record eligible courses. He's number six.
• 1:05:32
  And the guys ahead of him are like Conor Manz.
• 1:05:37
  Is it Kanuchi, the guy that held the world record?
• 1:05:41
  Line Hall. Ryan Hall, Yeah, like, into
• 1:05:45
  other, into other very top runners.
• 1:05:48
  What? Speaking of like people making
• 1:05:51
  bold moves and running the race in a crazy style did, did you
• 1:05:55
  actually see or hear about what happened at the front of the
• 1:05:58
  race during like earlier on? The guy never ended up
• 1:06:01
  finishing. Oh shit, I don't know how far
• 1:06:04
  back he finished, think it was like 29210, but there was this
• 1:06:08
  super group as it is through 10K halfway.
• 1:06:11
  And then this Japanese guy just pulls off the front of it and
• 1:06:15
  he's only running 20 or 30 meters ahead of like a 50 man
• 1:06:20
  pack and he just starts accelerating away.
• 1:06:23
  And he was on like 2O3 pace or something through halfway.
• 1:06:26
  And apparently to be fair to him on that, like New Year's Akadan,
• 1:06:31
  which obviously would have just been 8 weeks or so ago, he'd run
• 1:06:35
  a time because they run random distances then they might be
• 1:06:38
  like 23K or 25K which equated to A2O3 high marathon.
• 1:06:45
  And he's obviously just like gone all in and had so much self
• 1:06:48
  belief. Unfortunately didn't pull it off
• 1:06:51
  this time, but he's got the balls.
• 1:06:53
  So I'll have to find the guy's name.
• 1:06:57
  Shit that's annoying. He had it looked like it had,
• 1:07:01
  you know, that treatment when people get is it like coping
• 1:07:04
  therapy where you can have like all the red marks all over your
• 1:07:07
  skin, but they were like they were darker.
• 1:07:10
  So I don't know what what had been going on.
• 1:07:12
  It wasn't like the little magnet thing is either.
• 1:07:14
  Was it at smaller ones? Yeah, maybe.
• 1:07:19
  They're definitely a thing in terms of these little dots with
• 1:07:24
  magnets on them. Guys, I think we all buy a
• 1:07:30
  house. Dean I need you to fund this
• 1:07:32
  because you're the man with the money here we move to listen
• 1:07:35
  hear me out hear me out. We moved to Utah OK, because
• 1:07:39
  this Ethan Julie he was born in Utah.
• 1:07:42
  He's born in altitude. She knew moved there.
• 1:07:45
  I get a little house go in future house and all the kids
• 1:07:49
  they just become more we cannot become Mormons.
• 1:07:52
  Can you become a Mormon or just to be born a Mormon anyway, just
• 1:07:56
  the quality of our like we could hang out with like Clayton young
• 1:07:59
  Connor man's and I think Grant Fisher's out there as well.
• 1:08:04
  It can be so fun. Let's think.
• 1:08:09
  Sounds good. Yeah, well, I mean, you know
• 1:08:12
  who's been put peddling that one a little bit is, is Mr. Raph
• 1:08:16
  Ball. He's been, Oh yeah, he's brought
• 1:08:18
  up for it. Yeah.
• 1:08:19
  He wants to go. That's kind.
• 1:08:21
  I think he's keen on the acts of service, but he's definitely
• 1:08:24
  keen on getting around the BYU. But there's the venture
• 1:08:29
  capitalists you were looking for.
• 1:08:31
  Yeah. He'll create He's the
• 1:08:35
  crowdfunding. Training camps and we we could
• 1:08:41
  finally have a podcast studio. Oh my God, probably fun.
• 1:08:46
  Fuck this Riverside shit. Even though you probably need to
• 1:08:49
  stop juice on your Riverside. Riverside may have been, you
• 1:08:54
  know, looking to offer us a free subscription maybe if we kept
• 1:08:57
  growing and that's that one gone as well.
• 1:09:00
  Oh shit, add it to the list. It's longer than our list of
• 1:09:05
  results. Well, we've survived results,
• 1:09:07
  right? That was the last.
• 1:09:08
  Yeah, right. Let's box these listener
• 1:09:11
  questions off from last week. All right.
• 1:09:15
  I'll, I'll take the lead on these, shall I?
• 1:09:20
  So in no particular order, these are the listener questions that
• 1:09:23
  we carried over that we needed Owen's input on just because
• 1:09:26
  they knew Ryan was worried. I just sit on the fence with all
• 1:09:28
  of them. But to start off, we've got can
• 1:09:33
  we have a What would Ryan do segment.
• 1:09:37
  I like it. So this is the guy who messaged
• 1:09:42
  Owen Joe Bowden and said explained about this Rodman
• 1:09:46
  story. So he wants a what would Ryan
• 1:09:50
  slash Rodman do? Have you seen shit?
• 1:09:52
  What's the documentary on Netflix about Michael Jordan,
• 1:09:56
  you know, the basketball, the Chicago Bulls and Dennis Rodman.
• 1:10:01
  So that they were referring to me as Dennis Rodman for a period
• 1:10:05
  because of tendencies to, like, be All in all house.
• 1:10:08
  Yeah. And he, yeah.
• 1:10:11
  What would, what would Rodman do?
• 1:10:13
  So I guess it depends which personality type turns up that
• 1:10:16
  week, whether it's Ryan or Rodman.
• 1:10:19
  This is good. I like it all right.
• 1:10:23
  So Rodman would not attend the gym, whereas Ryan might attend
• 1:10:26
  the gym. I look, I'd written you off
• 1:10:28
  today. I thought it was going to be a
• 1:10:29
  Rodman Rodman Monday. Turns out I was greeted greeted
• 1:10:36
  by by you, Ron. Yeah, we'll see.
• 1:10:41
  This is the problem is when when Rodman is taking over the brain,
• 1:10:46
  you can't identify it until he's gone.
• 1:10:49
  Well, it all sounded very Ryan. We maybe can park the rest of
• 1:10:54
  Rodman and Ryan, but it sounds like your training week was
• 1:10:56
  quite Ryan this week. Yeah, it did.
• 1:10:59
  To be fair, we'll put Rodman to the back of the mind during the
• 1:11:05
  recovery journey. Until for for another 3 or 4
• 1:11:11
  weeks until you're tapering for bridges.
• 1:11:13
  Until the wheels come off, yeah. And now second listener question
• 1:11:19
  is from Susie. It's what was our favorite guest
• 1:11:22
  interview. I'll go for I'd say I loved the
• 1:11:28
  the elevens wands tier of all them because you look up to
• 1:11:32
  every single runner. I think the one coming out soon,
• 1:11:34
  I really enjoyed the one we'd done yesterday because I just
• 1:11:37
  love him out. And oddly and as a person, his
• 1:11:39
  views, I think he's very black and white and but I think all of
• 1:11:42
  them, David, you could take something from them.
• 1:11:44
  And again, like, yeah, I look up to every single person in the
• 1:11:48
  interview. So say all of them.
• 1:11:50
  I'm sitting on the DN. I'm at 7 on the fence.
• 1:11:53
  I reckon Levens as well, just because maybe there was just
• 1:11:58
  something special about it. And I think it was maybe the
• 1:12:02
  third one. We spoke to RAF and Jake before
• 1:12:06
  Cam, but obviously we have some at least some sort of
• 1:12:10
  relationship with both of them. Whereas Cam was like kind of out
• 1:12:14
  the blue and we're all running around like pinch ourselves
• 1:12:16
  moment. What's going on here?
• 1:12:18
  And then the quality of the conversation and like the in
• 1:12:22
  depth insights that he shared was just crazy to hear it from
• 1:12:26
  like one of the best ever. Yes, look, I'm going to probably
• 1:12:32
  sit on the fence because I think there's elements from all of
• 1:12:35
  them. Like like the, I think that's
• 1:12:38
  probably what I get a lot out of these interviews is you're going
• 1:12:41
  to listen for an hour and a half, but there's probably 3 or
• 1:12:43
  so things that you take from them that you sort of take with
• 1:12:46
  you on your running journey. So like when Cooper T was
• 1:12:50
  talking about cross training, which was particularly relevant
• 1:12:52
  for Ryan and I at the time, and just talking about how he can
• 1:12:55
  get to that top end of zone too, not running all the time.
• 1:12:58
  I really liked that. And then when and then when
• 1:13:02
  Owen's chatting with your man with Andrew and they're having
• 1:13:08
  does that good mate ship and then talking about tapering into
• 1:13:11
  races and the challenge for championship races and the
• 1:13:14
  tendency to just want to push, push, push, but just come in
• 1:13:17
  just right for those races. Like there's things that we took
• 1:13:21
  out of all of it. And then same with the even the
• 1:13:23
  recent chat on that fly carb. Like I went into that
• 1:13:25
  conversation open minded, but I certainly didn't think that I
• 1:13:29
  would walk away from it thinking that's probably something called
• 1:13:32
  take with me 9 races out of 10 going forward.
• 1:13:38
  I think one of the things which is clear from all of the
• 1:13:40
  interviews, like the recurring theme is just the, I mean, it
• 1:13:44
  sounds obvious, but the professionalism, like the
• 1:13:47
  mindset is just a little bit different, isn't it?
• 1:13:50
  Like we like to think we take running seriously and we take it
• 1:13:53
  as seriously as we can. But yeah, professional athletes
• 1:13:58
  are just, they're wired a little bit differently, aren't they?
• 1:14:02
  Yeah, for sure. Question from Adam Nathan, did
• 1:14:08
  you see the podcast lasting this long?
• 1:14:11
  Do we think we'd be here a year later?
• 1:14:15
  I want to say yes, but like not many like long distance podcasts
• 1:14:21
  last because there's so much planning and like there's like
• 1:14:25
  to be honest, there's a lot of sacrifice that goes into it.
• 1:14:27
  Like when we're recording on a Sunday, like that would be
• 1:14:30
  midday for me. Like that's the Sunday like row
• 1:14:33
  off if you get me. But like, it's crazy how we've
• 1:14:37
  been able to like find a balance and make it work constantly.
• 1:14:39
  So this long, probably not, but I'm so happy it has last this
• 1:14:44
  long. Like I think we said that I
• 1:14:47
  think after 12 episodes and they normally fail.
• 1:14:51
  Yeah, if you don't make it to 12, they normally fail.
• 1:14:53
  So. We're 50 here now, so I think
• 1:14:55
  we're. We're well on the way to 100.
• 1:14:58
  Yeah, my answer is no, but purely from a point of.
• 1:15:02
  View I genuinely never thought about it.
• 1:15:04
  Like honestly, I never thought like, are we going to last?
• 1:15:08
  Are we not going to last? It was just like, OK, well it's
• 1:15:11
  Monday, it's Sunday or it's Monday.
• 1:15:12
  So we're recording an episode and then all of a sudden a
• 1:15:15
  year's flown by. And clearly it has because we're
• 1:15:18
  still here, Which I guess is a good thing because it just means
• 1:15:21
  you're kind of living in each week in the moment and enjoying
• 1:15:24
  it, obviously. So definitely some.
• 1:15:30
  Rodman type elements to keep. The the stoke in the fire when
• 1:15:34
  it needed the motivational drive from time to time by Ryan's,
• 1:15:38
  kept it, kept it going. I think I mean Rodman.
• 1:15:44
  Was very much around when I was in.
• 1:15:46
  Europe last year and was doing this is a hero cardiovascular
• 1:15:50
  activity. I would hate to listen back to
• 1:15:54
  those episodes because they're. Probably a shambles.
• 1:15:58
  Or even I remember the ones when I was traveling like.
• 1:16:00
  Fine or QLD? Like Cairns and all that.
• 1:16:03
  And I'd like, I'd have to hop on like give a little like proof
• 1:16:06
  gift to what I'm doing. I was injured at the time as
• 1:16:08
  well. And yeah, it's crazy.
• 1:16:10
  Like what we've actually been true.
• 1:16:11
  And like how we're still going dialing in from the from the
• 1:16:16
  airport lounge. And the announcer goes.
• 1:16:18
  In the background and then finally from Alice Kerr.
• 1:16:22
  Anything you've. Changed about training or racing
• 1:16:25
  knowing that you'd be talking about it on the pod?
• 1:16:30
  Have I changed anything? About training.
• 1:16:32
  Or racing, like racing, I feel like training you can hide stuff
• 1:16:37
  racing like the result is out there for everyone to see.
• 1:16:39
  Like you can't really hide racing like I love racing like
• 1:16:43
  that's why we sort of do the sport.
• 1:16:45
  So racing, no training obviously on your Strava you might hide
• 1:16:50
  the odd lactate reading if it's like super, super high.
• 1:16:54
  But I'd like to think I'm very black and white with my training
• 1:16:58
  and like what I do. And if I don't post it on
• 1:17:00
  Strava, you're going to hear about it on this.
• 1:17:02
  So where another you'd hear about what I'm doing, I guess my
• 1:17:07
  answers in NA given. Hardly fucking race since we've
• 1:17:10
  had the podcast. But no, to be honest, I'm I'm
• 1:17:16
  not the only thing. I would be worried about in
• 1:17:20
  training is doing stupid things and then I know that you guys
• 1:17:24
  are going to call me out on it. So it's not to be like
• 1:17:27
  embarrassed about anything or trying to like fluff up a result
• 1:17:30
  more so like I just know yous aren't going to let me get away
• 1:17:33
  with anything. So after just front up to it,
• 1:17:39
  yeah, probably similar. I mean.
• 1:17:43
  I don't think so. Like in terms of my training
• 1:17:47
  approach to training, it's been pretty similar for a chunk of
• 1:17:49
  time, albeit right now I'm not able to fully train, but I'm
• 1:17:53
  optimistic that when I can that it would be pretty similar
• 1:17:58
  training to what I was doing that had been effective for a
• 1:18:01
  chunk of time. So yeah, like to think.
• 1:18:06
  Not too much. And then I think, like you say,
• 1:18:08
  this is just meant to be a bit of a.
• 1:18:10
  Sounding board, keeping us honest to stop us from doing
• 1:18:12
  things that we don't think of sensible choices so if anything
• 1:18:16
  it's probably just a good reminder to.
• 1:18:19
  Make smart. Choices because you're going to
• 1:18:20
  be held accountable for them when we talk about them on a
• 1:18:22
  Monday. Yeah, good summary running.
• 1:18:27
  News very quickly. Al Fly.
• 1:18:29
  Floor was spotted on foot. I think it was Geoffrey Cam War
• 1:18:32
  War. The other week he won some half
• 1:18:34
  marathon, can't remember where it was in like 58 minutes.
• 1:18:37
  And there's a bit of a news story around him because like it
• 1:18:41
  had been 13 years since he'd run that quick.
• 1:18:44
  Something bizarre like that. And he was in like the Al Fly
• 1:18:47
  floor prototype. I think some of the rumours
• 1:18:49
  online are that it might be being released around Chicago
• 1:18:53
  time, which should be what, September, October?
• 1:18:57
  So a. Little while to wait.
• 1:18:59
  Yet Rodman been on those let's let's run threads, says he.
• 1:19:06
  No. I've got that birthday voucher
• 1:19:08
  for Nike, so I've been. Trying to think about whether
• 1:19:11
  whether I should invest it or sit on it.
• 1:19:14
  I'd wait for the four, yeah. Fem Cabal ended her indoor.
• 1:19:20
  Season very prematurely with an injury, which is sad given the
• 1:19:25
  amount hyphen talk there was around her coming.
• 1:19:27
  To the 800. And whether she could live up to
• 1:19:30
  her like world record world champion status in the 400 and
• 1:19:35
  400 hurdles in the ace 100, but we'll have to wait and see.
• 1:19:40
  Yeah, Philly Baden, she also. She signed a little Lennon.
• 1:19:44
  A three-year deal. So I think she was on some like
• 1:19:47
  creator slash athlete contractor on and that ended as of December
• 1:19:53
  or January 2026. And so yeah, she's after signing
• 1:19:56
  what Lululemon. So that's going to be a nice
• 1:19:59
  little paycheck. They're both three years as
• 1:20:02
  well. That's nice for security and I'm
• 1:20:04
  unlikely we know this. Is she feeling healthy now?
• 1:20:10
  Healthy. She's on the road to.
• 1:20:12
  And I don't think she's any races planned.
• 1:20:14
  But if it was, it'd be like, I'm going to say no, I think she's
• 1:20:16
  actually going to do a track season.
• 1:20:18
  She's going to do a track season.
• 1:20:19
  So no marathon. She'll do like an or winter
• 1:20:22
  marathon. But yeah, so she'll be she's
• 1:20:25
  made no, like everyone knows she's gone for that with LA
• 1:20:28
  Olympics. So don't know what the
• 1:20:30
  qualifying time is. Sort of women 220 low probably.
• 1:20:33
  So yeah. And then go, go also run.
• 1:20:39
  I was going to say I'm Philly. But I'm Philly Bowden I won't
• 1:20:43
  name. Them, but they'll they'll know
• 1:20:45
  who they are. One of my old training partners
• 1:20:48
  back home used to have a little crush on Philly Bowden and we've
• 1:20:51
  seen her at a race once and he wanted to go up and ask her for
• 1:20:55
  a photo but he was too embarrassed to.
• 1:21:01
  Should we just shout him out? Now on the pod.
• 1:21:04
  Yeah, he. If he's listening, then he's
• 1:21:06
  bright. Red so I'll I'll.
• 1:21:08
  Leave her at that and tag Philly in this so she actually.
• 1:21:15
  She might be engaged, but. You never know.
• 1:21:19
  A goalkeeper has a goal and you should still try and score
• 1:21:24
  anyway. Go go.
• 1:21:25
  He runs a new 100. Meter records. 10 flat, don't
• 1:21:29
  know, the guess is pretty fast, but you want to be running 9
• 1:21:32
  low. He is 1617, so he's still pretty
• 1:21:35
  young. But yeah, it's just tired.
• 1:21:37
  Charlotte in there for the sprinting fans that listen to
• 1:21:40
  this distance podcast. Yeah.
• 1:21:43
  What's gout have to do to get a sub 10 on the board?
• 1:21:46
  He done it in Perth, didn't he? And it was wind illegal.
• 1:21:49
  And now he runs 10 dead. Yeah, I just, I don't know, but
• 1:21:54
  he is. So young like.
• 1:21:55
  You'd like to think you'll run faster and he gets bigger and
• 1:21:57
  stronger. So I think he's still in a good
• 1:22:00
  place. Training weeks.
• 1:22:02
  You guys can speak in as much detail or lack.
• 1:22:05
  Of detail as you like. I'll give a quick summary before
• 1:22:08
  I hand over to you and should also say that training weeks are
• 1:22:13
  proudly brought to you by Gnomeo.
• 1:22:15
  They've been helping us out with some products to help support
• 1:22:18
  our training weeks and we enjoy talking about the athletes which
• 1:22:23
  they also help out as well. So last week I mentioned that
• 1:22:26
  Finnish woman, the marathon runner who'd run 5 marathons in
• 1:22:31
  six months and said at the time, I wonder if she's because she's
• 1:22:35
  Nordic, she's on the no MU list. So then after we recorded one on
• 1:22:40
  Instagram, what she got on her bio, her broccoli emoji.
• 1:22:45
  So they're doing something right.
• 1:22:48
  My training. Week consisted of three. 140.
• 1:22:52
  K on the bike somehow and 50K of running but so mentally now.
• 1:22:59
  I don't want to. Jinx it, but I.
• 1:23:01
  Think I've stopped looking back. Over my shoulder and being so
• 1:23:05
  nervous about this injury. I think now I can start to look
• 1:23:08
  forwards and slowly build this 50K or week on week.
• 1:23:15
  I think from now on you don't even mention on the part
• 1:23:17
  because. It's actually irrelevant.
• 1:23:18
  You've been. Running like 50K, like if it's
• 1:23:20
  not sore, it's gone. It's around in the past, Move
• 1:23:23
  on. Yeah.
• 1:23:24
  OK, there we go. This morning I was saying.
• 1:23:27
  To Dean earlier, I'd done like 15 minutes worth of study and it
• 1:23:31
  was the first time I'd ever, not ever.
• 1:23:33
  It was the first time where I was focused on like what my
• 1:23:36
  heart rate was and how it felt rather than how my foot felt.
• 1:23:40
  So I think that's as good a sign as any that that's a very
• 1:23:45
  impressive weight. That's was that over 15 hours,
• 1:23:50
  16 hours. It's been time he put it in.
• 1:23:54
  He's been fucking Dawson for the last.
• 1:23:56
  Like 4 months, yeah, We just need you to stack these weeks.
• 1:24:01
  Now, yeah, that yeah. As you transition, I mean.
• 1:24:07
  That's some good aerobic base like you've done a good.
• 1:24:10
  Month on the bike. Avenue, it's good, four weeks of
• 1:24:12
  aerobic fitness, so hopefully it translates as you convert across
• 1:24:16
  to more running. We'll see.
• 1:24:18
  Put it all on the line of bridges.
• 1:24:24
  I can, yeah. I'll look.
• 1:24:25
  I can race through my week as well.
• 1:24:27
  It was. I did 100 KS of running and 150
• 1:24:31
  KS of riding. So a couple of like lot of
• 1:24:35
  workouts, bike interval sessions, steady run, long run
• 1:24:40
  and a longer like steady bike. We like the key parts other than
• 1:24:44
  just and then some easy spins and some easy jogs.
• 1:24:48
  So yeah, things are getting better.
• 1:24:52
  I wouldn't say I'm completely not thinking about my groin area
• 1:24:56
  just because I'm getting some tightness, but that tightness is
• 1:24:59
  definitely getting better, which is good.
• 1:25:02
  I had some physiotherapy during the week which helped and yeah,
• 1:25:05
  keep working on it. Am I allowed to ask?
• 1:25:10
  How come I can't see? The majority of this running on
• 1:25:12
  Strawberry. Oh yeah, I did a workout with.
• 1:25:17
  RAF the other day and he's Oh dear, no mate, could be good if
• 1:25:19
  we can put it, you know, put it on private or something like
• 1:25:23
  that and I'm like it's easy. Sometimes it's easier just to
• 1:25:26
  say yes. So I've.
• 1:25:27
  Done what I've done. What I've been asked to do.
• 1:25:30
  Wonder what he's got cooking for here if he wants you to go
• 1:25:33
  private. 3 double threshold days hopefully.
• 1:25:39
  Then we'll be on to a winner if that's the case.
• 1:25:41
  Yeah. Now I'm still trying.
• 1:25:45
  It's good that you're. Back.
• 1:25:47
  Doing some workouts. And hopefully it sticks.
• 1:25:50
  That's what we need, isn't it? Yeah, my week.
• 1:25:54
  So this. Is.
• 1:25:56
  Yeah, coming off armor and feeling all right Monday, just
• 1:26:01
  easy double and 45 minutes in the morning, 45 minutes in the
• 1:26:05
  evening. The mornings and evenings,
• 1:26:09
  they're getting brighter. Guys, I can sort of.
• 1:26:11
  See somewhere is it's slowly, slowly coming.
• 1:26:15
  It's getting like near the end of the run.
• 1:26:17
  You don't need the headlight on. So we're getting there.
• 1:26:20
  I salute all of my Irish UK guys.
• 1:26:23
  We've we've made it well, we're making it Tuesday.
• 1:26:28
  I dawn 50 in the morning just chilling.
• 1:26:30
  And then the evening I have sort of a session.
• 1:26:32
  So it was 4 by 1200 meters off 2 minutes.
• 1:26:37
  Again, this is my gravel track. So I think time is absolutely
• 1:26:40
  irrelevant because I don't know off the distance I'm running.
• 1:26:43
  And so yeah, trying to aim for to get myself really, really
• 1:26:48
  don't know. Maybe three 30s for the 1200,
• 1:26:51
  something like that. And then I treat by 300.
• 1:26:55
  What's the effort meant to be? The 1200 around 5K around 5K
• 1:26:58
  for. Sure, yeah.
• 1:27:01
  Maybe a little bit slower. And then three.
• 1:27:04
  By 300 off 90 seconds and these are in 484747 high so yeah, 47
• 1:27:10
  high for 247 highs and then 48 which yeah, just get the legs
• 1:27:14
  moving. Wednesday morning 75 easy SO16K
• 1:27:19
  and then the eve. Then I had my circuits class
• 1:27:23
  Thursday morning, 60 minutes with a 15.
• 1:27:25
  Minute pickup at the end. So the pickup, I'm trying to hit
• 1:27:28
  like under three 20s between 3:20 and like 315, and I find
• 1:27:33
  that so hard, going from like a 430 and then trying to pick it
• 1:27:38
  up to like a 32315. I think it'd be so much easier
• 1:27:42
  if you just like started off at that 3/23/15 that held it for
• 1:27:45
  the hour. Yeah, hard.
• 1:27:48
  But I feel like it's good. That's sort of changing pace.
• 1:27:52
  You know what doesn't seem to get programmed very much for
• 1:27:54
  people? Like when you see.
• 1:27:56
  So many people's training and like care about what they're
• 1:27:58
  doing, progression runs. And I used, when I used to do
• 1:28:02
  them like a couple of years ago, I used to enjoy it so much.
• 1:28:05
  Like it's such a good feeling, isn't it?
• 1:28:07
  We used to do them like every Saturday or every second
• 1:28:10
  Saturday. Like 75 minutes and every 15 or
• 1:28:13
  20 minutes you would pick up, pick it up.
• 1:28:15
  A lot of fun in a group. It was great.
• 1:28:19
  And you do just. Yeah, they're so much fun.
• 1:28:24
  I think I see, I see funnily. Enough seeing Cam Myers the
• 1:28:27
  other day on. Strava.
• 1:28:29
  And you see them titled as this sometimes, like easy to study,
• 1:28:33
  but still it's not quite that like constant picking it up,
• 1:28:36
  picking it up, picking it up. That's just like kind of two 2
• 1:28:39
  pace changes. But yeah.
• 1:28:43
  And yeah, so Friday day. Off went to my physio, David.
• 1:28:46
  I was. Just get the weekly massage into
• 1:28:50
  the legs. And then Saturday was sort of
• 1:28:52
  like my last hard session before National Indoor 3K, which is
• 1:28:56
  coming up this Sunday. So session was 10K threshold or
• 1:29:00
  10 minutes threshold, sorry, 10 minute threshold, 5K5 minute
• 1:29:04
  rest. And then it was three sets of
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  1000 meters, what was supposed to be a 3K pace, 2 minute rest,
• 1:29:12
  and then 600 meters, like slightly faster than 3K pace, 5
• 1:29:17
  minute rest, go again. That's it.
• 1:29:20
  That's fertile. It's brutal.
• 1:29:22
  Yeah, but John makes it even more brutal if there.
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  Is a fucking hurricane going down the freaking home straight
• 1:29:29
  and it's pissing rain. So during warm up it was grand.
• 1:29:33
  No, I joined warm up. It was grand and was like Oh my
• 1:29:36
  God, we should actually run faster today.
• 1:29:39
  Literally take off the tracks of arms and the heavens open and
• 1:29:43
  it's it's crazy. It's like someone just fucking
• 1:29:45
  cursed me. Anyway, I tried my bad like pace
• 1:29:49
  again, went out the window and like for the first one I think I
• 1:29:52
  held like I'm trying to hold between like 250 and a 245, umm.
• 1:29:59
  But again, like the weather is just so, so shit.
• 1:30:02
  I put spikes on for the last two reps umm And yeah, it was like
• 1:30:07
  it was a really, really tough day because like these are the
• 1:30:10
  sort of sessions like you're really up for that.
• 1:30:12
  Like, OK, if I do this like I'm ready and it can sort of mess to
• 1:30:16
  your head a little bit because you didn't hit the pace as
• 1:30:19
  you're meant to hit, but had you not had the all the body of work
• 1:30:24
  of the last? Three months, then I think this
• 1:30:26
  would be quite damaging. But then you're just like, I
• 1:30:29
  mean, this is like the third time you've had you've had to
• 1:30:32
  just muscle your way through the workout, right?
• 1:30:35
  Yeah, Yeah. And that's like, yeah, like just
• 1:30:37
  AB AB plus workout B. Minus workout like just get it
• 1:30:40
  done. It's not the end of the world
• 1:30:42
  and I still did like, guess being likes like, like, fair
• 1:30:45
  enough. If I'm able to run like them 240
• 1:30:47
  fives in outdoor track into a hurricane, hopefully on an
• 1:30:51
  indoor track when I'm freshened up and I'm chasing people,
• 1:30:55
  hopefully that will be a tiny bit faster.
• 1:30:57
  Yeah. And is that what you know you?
• 1:31:01
  Take 45 OK for UK reps. Well, I blew.
• 1:31:04
  Up in the middle, I think it was around 2 feet at average I'd
• 1:31:06
  say. Around 2:50 and blew up.
• 1:31:09
  Well, it's still I'm a shit out. Say yeah.
• 1:31:14
  And yeah, look, it's not the end of the.
• 1:31:16
  World like I didn't obviously you're sad after it like you
• 1:31:19
  sort of think about too much but like bigger picture it was still
• 1:31:22
  like a decent session and then that evening I just got out for
• 1:31:27
  four or five minutes 10K and then Sunday was umm did I I told
• 1:31:34
  you the story about my headphones did.
• 1:31:36
  I did. I speak about this?
• 1:31:37
  Yeah. Only briefly.
• 1:31:39
  You just mentioned at the start that it was umm.
• 1:31:43
  Dog Island, Yeah. OK, so.
• 1:31:46
  So basically it was 60 minutes and.
• 1:31:47
  Then. 5 or 600 meter strides, so down to 60 and I normally leave
• 1:31:53
  my actually there was really bad floods on my Rd.
• 1:31:56
  I sent pictures on my Strava and basically my mom lost The Reg
• 1:32:00
  plate, The Reg plate of her car. So I've actually found that in a
• 1:32:03
  ditch. So picked that up and then I put
• 1:32:06
  that at the bottom of the road and my put my phone on it and my
• 1:32:09
  2 beats had to know Earpods on the ground and I normally do my
• 1:32:12
  strides up and down there and I'd 5 done fucking off the end
• 1:32:16
  of the road and this little bastard of a dog is sniffing
• 1:32:18
  around my phone and I was like fuck him.
• 1:32:21
  So I ran down. Only one of my beats headphones
• 1:32:23
  is there. So grant I should have one more
• 1:32:27
  stride to do and the dog made a dart for it.
• 1:32:30
  So I'll do the stride and then I'll run after the dog do the
• 1:32:33
  stride. I see legged after the dog, the
• 1:32:36
  dogs after running into its back garden.
• 1:32:37
  So I have to run into like some my neighbour's back garden and
• 1:32:41
  he is there and like, you know, like there's this robbery part
• 1:32:45
  of the headphone and he has that separate, I don't know, head a
• 1:32:48
  little bass or a separator. And because I'm only after
• 1:32:52
  Gandhi is because the shocks I'm.
• 1:32:54
  Going to burn another bridge well.
• 1:32:55
  The shocks aren't the best for running in the country or in an
• 1:32:57
  Irish winter when it's super windy because you can't hear
• 1:33:00
  shit and so these ones are really good.
• 1:33:09
  These ones are really good and I.
• 1:33:11
  Was I was actually on my run, I was.
• 1:33:12
  Like Oh my God, life is so good. It's getting brighter like my
• 1:33:17
  because before the shocks I'd and old Airpods and they were
• 1:33:19
  shit and I was like, Oh my God, I'd listen to music and all this
• 1:33:22
  and then the dog goes off and freaking mix one of them.
• 1:33:25
  Thank God he you can see a few little teeth marks in it, but
• 1:33:29
  they work perfect. I was this close to I'd never
• 1:33:32
  hurt an animal, but Jeannie Matt goes close to doing that dog
• 1:33:36
  anyway. I didn't, I didn't.
• 1:33:40
  So got the week done then this morning and I nearly died.
• 1:33:44
  But anyway. And yeah, so this week I think
• 1:33:47
  of a session on Tuesday just to feature hundreds, but yeah, all
• 1:33:52
  teams gearing up for the indoor 3K with the big where is where
• 1:33:57
  is it? This is it one.
• 1:33:58
  It's indoor track in Ireland. No, there's, I think there's two
• 1:34:02
  or three, but. It's in the one in Dublin, like
• 1:34:05
  the main one. Yeah, be exciting.
• 1:34:09
  Hopefully I'll get in the air race.
• 1:34:11
  Brilliant Will. You be on the the fly carb for
• 1:34:14
  that. I.
• 1:34:16
  Will be on the fly. Carb 100.
• 1:34:19
  Percent and I'll do. My usual routine.
• 1:34:21
  Now I don't know, do you think do you think the benefit, do you
• 1:34:24
  think be beneficial to like do the beat routine again or is
• 1:34:28
  that only for longer stuff or will it still benefit me for
• 1:34:30
  like a 3K car indoor? I think it's still benefit you.
• 1:34:35
  I'm sure we can I. Can check but I'm.
• 1:34:37
  I my expectation is that it would so I might like beetroot
• 1:34:41
  Namio. And bicarb, fix gel,
• 1:34:46
  electrolytes, caffeine and then. Yeah.
• 1:34:49
  Ripper I wonder how much I spent before a race and I still come
• 1:34:52
  like fucking on. My last ones have been Valencia
• 1:34:56
  100 and I don't know what 108 are.
• 1:35:00
  My 34th, this one hopefully from 24th and this one there's been a
• 1:35:04
  serious issue. It's a drop in the ocean
• 1:35:07
  compared to this Cycling World that Ryan and I ventured.
• 1:35:10
  Over to, that's for sure. But look, it's worth it if
• 1:35:13
  you're running well. So that's it.
• 1:35:17
  Yeah, there's fresh mornings are.
• 1:35:18
  Just starting to. Reappear and I'm like, shit, I'm
• 1:35:20
  going to have. To get myself some some long
• 1:35:22
  like cycling gear for the winter.
• 1:35:26
  Oh guys do who? Oh my.
• 1:35:30
  God, it's going to be. Nippon below 20°.
• 1:35:33
  There was a lower force. In the other morning, yeah, it's
• 1:35:36
  fresh. Got I got frostbite.
• 1:35:42
  Buying my song. Yeah, Sunday 16 that was. 118K
• 1:35:49
  for the week, so yeah. Easy with this weekend then,
• 1:35:52
  yeah? At least the fingers crossed
• 1:35:55
  touch. Wood you're not battling with.
• 1:35:57
  Illness. Wondering whether you'll make it
• 1:35:59
  to the start line with this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:36:02
  Feeling good. And I saw just the race.
• 1:36:05
  The race prior to the illness was the the.
• 1:36:07
  Ankle was dodgy, wasn't it? So yeah, hopefully you just have
• 1:36:12
  a smooth transition to the start line here.
• 1:36:15
  Well, with the way things are going this week with animals, I
• 1:36:17
  genuinely. Might just like lock.
• 1:36:18
  Myself in my room or something like that because like the last
• 1:36:22
  thing you want is an injury or to get like something older than
• 1:36:25
  running and not running related injury like a bird flying into
• 1:36:30
  you is so weird in Ireland. Like the?
• 1:36:33
  General use of the Magpies that attack you.
• 1:36:34
  Like there's none of that in Ireland.
• 1:36:36
  Like not many animals can hurt you unless like you go into like
• 1:36:39
  a field or like cattle or bulls or you actually like after
• 1:36:43
  bollocks, like nothing can kill you really.
• 1:36:46
  So when the bird actually flew out me this morning, I was like,
• 1:36:49
  what the hell? Not fun.
• 1:36:53
  YouTube Diaries. We covered earlier.
• 1:36:55
  Ethan, Julie hits. Him up on YouTube.
• 1:36:57
  Let us know what you think, be cool to chat with them, but
• 1:37:01
  shit, he'll be in so much demand now after that week.
• 1:37:04
  We'll see if we can get him once the dust is settled.
• 1:37:09
  Upcoming races Tokyo. Marathon next weekend, shift
• 1:37:12
  marathon. Season is well and truly upon
• 1:37:14
  us, so we go from Tokyo to Boston to London.
• 1:37:17
  I think is the the transition, isn't it?
• 1:37:20
  Dean has kindly whipped up the fields for Tokyo.
• 1:37:28
  Yeah, the. So in terms of the women's.
• 1:37:31
  Field highway FISA and is it 214 from Chicago last year in
• 1:37:40
  Sutomay Kabeti Kabeti 21555 from Tokyo in 2024.
• 1:37:47
  Rosemary Wenjuru from Kenya 2/16/14 from 2024 Magurto Alemu
• 1:37:57
  21634 from London Bridget Cosky well known name who may have
• 1:38:04
  been was it previous world record holder or?
• 1:38:06
  I don't know she'd previously run.
• 1:38:07
  Run really fast some years ago and then ran 21636 at Shanghai
• 1:38:12
  last year which was which caught a lot of attention and the list
• 1:38:17
  goes on. Some notable mentions it's
• 1:38:22
  Vanessa Wilson from Australia 22834 and Sinead Diver she's
• 1:38:27
  going in with her Sydney 2023 time of two 3127 but we know has
• 1:38:31
  run 221 before so yeah pretty. I mean it's pretty deep field as
• 1:38:37
  you. Imagine what is typical for a
• 1:38:40
  world major. But yeah on Sunday should be a
• 1:38:42
  great race. Hopefully they have good weather
• 1:38:44
  for normally do a broadcast on YouTube that you can catch.
• 1:38:48
  So hopefully it's a good one to watch, yeah.
• 1:38:54
  I was just looking at that, the women's list.
• 1:38:56
  There and usually like the magic number for women is 220, isn't
• 1:39:01
  it like the proper top end and there you've got 12348 women
• 1:39:07
  with APB of faster. Than 220.
• 1:39:11
  So there's the potential for that race to be lightning quick
• 1:39:15
  given the Tokyo course as well is renowned for being faster
• 1:39:18
  itself. I think the 1st 5K is it they
• 1:39:21
  like kind of Chucky downhill a little bit so people can get
• 1:39:25
  themselves in trouble a bit there.
• 1:39:28
  Yeah, I remember. Was it rented Japan that ran?
• 1:39:30
  This one last year, yeah. So I remember, yeah, following
• 1:39:35
  the stream with that one, so. But it was pretty it.
• 1:39:37
  Was a bit warm I remember last year, so hopefully they get a
• 1:39:40
  bit of a cooler, cooler day yeah which looking at all the stuff
• 1:39:45
  he seems to have been posting that there's.
• 1:39:47
  So much snow on the ground over there, isn't there?
• 1:39:50
  Yeah. So that could be could be in for
• 1:39:52
  a good one. And then on the men's field,
• 1:39:56
  Timothy Kiplanga Laga is 20255 Guy, Alexander Mutiso 203 low.
• 1:40:04
  Vincent Kip Kemo, also 203 low. Mangasha from Ethiopia, 203 low.
• 1:40:12
  To dese to Kili 203 low from Tokyo last year and it goes on
• 1:40:19
  all the way down. The top 10 or 15 are all super
• 1:40:22
  fast. Just making it under 205 is
• 1:40:25
  Saguru Osaka. Who's the?
• 1:40:28
  Was part of the Nike Oregon Project OR in or around that
• 1:40:32
  time. Was training under Nike for a
• 1:40:34
  period of time. Had a break, came back and ran
• 1:40:36
  20455 in Valencia last year to break the Japanese national
• 1:40:39
  record. So he's in red hot form.
• 1:40:43
  Hopefully he has a good race as well.
• 1:40:48
  Yeah, again, similarly with that men.
• 1:40:50
  'S field. There's 8 of them.
• 1:40:52
  Whose PB starts 2O3 something well and one of them's 2O2,
• 1:40:57
  which usually at these majors you make a 2O3 that fast and the
• 1:41:01
  the rest 2O42O Five guys, but feels like an attractive
• 1:41:07
  proposition if you're fit. Like if you're really fit this
• 1:41:11
  time of year, I think it's Tokyo, the other time of year
• 1:41:14
  it's Berlin, right? If you want to absolutely RIP
• 1:41:16
  one. But London's pretty fast.
• 1:41:19
  But if you're talking world majors, like I think they're
• 1:41:23
  probably the the pick for this time of year or each season.
• 1:41:28
  It's probably hard for. British.
• 1:41:30
  And Irish listeners to. Comprehend why you would go to
• 1:41:32
  Japan. But obviously geographically for
• 1:41:35
  us over here, it's a little bit more accessible than going to
• 1:41:38
  Spain, to Valencia. Well, that's right.
• 1:41:41
  So we can do one flight into Tokyo, It's 8.
• 1:41:44
  Hours. And you are an hour different in
• 1:41:46
  time zone. So like right now it's three
• 1:41:50
  hours different in time zone. To get to Melbourne takes 3 1/2
• 1:41:54
  four hours to get there. You have to go double the
• 1:41:56
  distance. But you cross you a less
• 1:41:58
  interrupted cultural experience and the way they organize and
• 1:42:04
  run events and participate in events over there, it makes it a
• 1:42:09
  very desirable destination. That's pretty.
• 1:42:12
  Cheap right now I think. Yeah.
• 1:42:15
  Exactly. And then the AUD we can.
• 1:42:19
  Go nuts at Lawson's if we so choose.
• 1:42:22
  To carb load. Oh shit, Owens darted on us
• 1:42:25
  before Double Trouble and. I know this first one is his and
• 1:42:31
  I'm not feeling fired up enough to say mine.
• 1:42:34
  I don't want to be nasty. I'll wait until I'm feeling
• 1:42:37
  nasty. They're in the log book.
• 1:42:39
  We'll wait until is it? Rodman's back in town.
• 1:42:44
  Yeah, exactly. Look forward to it.
• 1:42:47
  Well. Hopefully we've provided you
• 1:42:48
  with enough. Juice anyway.
• 1:42:50
  And as I touched on at the start, you're going to be
• 1:42:54
  wanting to keep an eye on the Instagram and more importantly,
• 1:42:57
  the Spotify feeds this week because we think you'll be
• 1:43:00
  pretty excited about some of the content that's being released.
• 1:43:03
  So thanks again if you've made it this far, and we'll see you
• 1:43:07
  next week. See you, mate.
• 1:43:08
  See you guys.