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The Noles Get Their First Win Of The Season ... Why Aren't More Celebrating? · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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Speaker 1: Five minutes past the hour. It is the third hour
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Speaker 1: of the Morning Show with Preston Scott. Great to be
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Speaker 1: with you this morning. Obviously we're paying attention now. It's
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Speaker 1: a whole new world because of the likelihood of a
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Speaker 1: storm impacting our region by the end of the week.
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Speaker 1: But that is something we will certainly be talking about
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Speaker 1: with increasing frequency throughout the coming days. But now we
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Speaker 1: get to reflect on something else, ladies and gentlemen. FS
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Speaker 1: you want a football game and to talk about it
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Speaker 1: as irishefellowar chand dot com. It sounds so odd to
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Speaker 1: put it that way, but it really was a big
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Speaker 1: deal that they found a way to win.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's where we're at right now, Preston a long time,
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Speaker 2: it's Florida stake. Gotta win, so yeah, you gotta. I
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Speaker 2: don't know, I know some people are not enjoying it,
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Speaker 2: but I feel like you probably should enjoy a win
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Speaker 2: after the first few weeks.
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Speaker 1: All right, Before get into the specifics now, I'm just curious,
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Speaker 1: do you guys drive over to SMU this week? Are
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Speaker 1: you flying over? How you covering the game?
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm supposed to be flying and so we'll see
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Speaker 2: how the weather goes one of our other guys of
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Speaker 2: Matt is gonna be flying also, although he's from Dallas.
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Speaker 2: So he's told me if the storm looks like it's
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Speaker 2: gonna be bad, he's gonna drive Thursday morning if he
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Speaker 2: can beat it. So he's fine with driving. I'm only
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Speaker 2: going if I can fly.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're driving, I would absolutely leave in the
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Speaker 1: morning on Thursday, because after that you might not get
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Speaker 1: across I ten. But anyway, all right, so they've got SMU.
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Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a couple of segments. What's
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Speaker 1: your what's your big picture of the win on Saturday night?
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Speaker 2: You know? To me, you know, and I've had a
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Speaker 2: lot of conversations with frustrated FSU fans. My feeling is, look, man,
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Speaker 2: this team was bad on both sides of the ball.
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Speaker 2: The only thing that's been good for the first month
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Speaker 2: of the season really was special teams, and you know,
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Speaker 2: specifically Mastermano with Fitzgerald. And so the defense showed some life.
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Speaker 2: I felt like against Memphis started playing a little bit better,
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Speaker 2: and then this game, I thought you saw a lot
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Speaker 2: more from the defense, especially the defensive line. That's the
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Speaker 2: defensive line we've all kind of been expecting to see
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Speaker 2: all season, so that's a positive. The offense is still,
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Speaker 2: you know, kind of a train wreck. That had two
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Speaker 2: nice drives, but other than that, it was it was
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Speaker 2: really rough. So you know, to me, it's it's incremental growth,
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Speaker 2: it's some improvement, and it's a win, which could help
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Speaker 2: these guys because listen, I mean and you played sports
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Speaker 2: and covered sports, and you know, winning changes just the
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Speaker 2: mindset of the whole program. So I think it opens
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Speaker 2: up the opportunity for more players to improve because they're
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Speaker 2: in a better frame of mind.
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Speaker 1: What can you tell us about Joshua Farmer because he
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Speaker 1: made a comment in the post game that I wasn't
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Speaker 1: sure exactly because I didn't catch the whole thing talking
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Speaker 1: about removing some cast that allowed him to play. Because
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, he's different in the last two games,
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Speaker 1: and as a result, that defense is different.
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Speaker 2: Completely different, one hundred percent. Yeah. So, he he had
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Speaker 2: an injury. The reason he didn't play in the bowl
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Speaker 2: game last year is he had a hand injury, hand
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Speaker 2: or wrist, and so he had surgery before the bowl
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Speaker 2: game so that he could hopefully get back for spring practice.
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Speaker 2: But it must have been pretty severe because he missed
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Speaker 2: almost all of the spring practice, and then even in
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Speaker 2: the preseason camp he was still a little bit limited.
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Speaker 2: And then when he played, he had like a brace
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Speaker 2: or something on his wrist to protect his wrists or
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Speaker 2: his hand, and he played with that for the first
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Speaker 2: two games. I think the plan was to play aff
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Speaker 2: season with it, and after the second game he just
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Speaker 2: felt like it was really kind of limiting what he
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Speaker 2: could do in terms of grabbing offensive lineman and so
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Speaker 2: he took it off. And in these last two games,
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Speaker 2: as you said, I mean he had he had five
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Speaker 2: total tackles and no tackles for lost in the first
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Speaker 2: two games this season. In the last two games, I
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Speaker 2: think he's had about nine total tackles but seven tackles
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Speaker 2: for lost. Six or seven tackles we lost in the
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Speaker 2: life to games, and a lot of times he opens
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Speaker 2: things up, you know, a lot of Patrick Payton had
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Speaker 2: three sacks in that game Saturday, but at least one
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Speaker 2: or two of them were sprung by Josh Farmer, putting
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Speaker 2: pressure and forcing the quarterback into Peyton.
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Speaker 1: You know, you and I have talked about what seems
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Speaker 1: to be a little bit of a lacking in leadership
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Speaker 1: on the football team among the players a little internal fire.
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Speaker 1: One of my sons said over the weekend that Josh
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Speaker 1: Farmer making that statement saying I'm playing without the cast,
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Speaker 1: We're going to get after it, that that's the first
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Speaker 1: spark of leadership be seen. It seems that that might
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Speaker 1: be some there might be some truth to that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a good perception, there's no question.
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Speaker 2: I mean one of the things that I think that
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Speaker 2: you know, when people talk about leadership, I think, again,
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Speaker 2: what everybody visualizes somebody standing at the room like in
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Speaker 2: a movie in the locker room and getting everybody fired up,
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Speaker 2: But so many other times it's really just about who's
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Speaker 2: are guys willing to put their body on the line,
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Speaker 2: or are guys willing to to really just kind of
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Speaker 2: sell out for the team. And if one or two
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Speaker 2: or three or five guys do that, and then it
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Speaker 2: becomes contagious. And I feel like that is I think
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Speaker 2: that's very perceptive, and you know, I think that that's
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Speaker 2: something It felt like this team, it seemed like this
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Speaker 2: team wasn't really kind of going over that line. But
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Speaker 2: maybe you're starting to see that.
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Speaker 3: Oh look a bike with one of those bells and
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Speaker 3: a radio, just like the seventies. I yeah, I traveled
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Speaker 3: with a radio taped to my bike. This is the
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Speaker 3: Morning Show with Preston Scott.
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Speaker 1: Back with Irashafellowarchant dot Com. I'm gonna do what I loathe.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna play armchair quarterback for a second. I can't
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Speaker 1: get my brain around the fact that at this point,
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Speaker 1: here's what I've arrived at with our offense. We're asking
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Speaker 1: a kid who is a prototypical pro style quarterback who
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Speaker 1: cannot run, to run an option offense in the running game,
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Speaker 1: and we have no option. Why didn't Mike change his
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Speaker 1: offense up either pare it down? But there's he doesn't
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Speaker 1: he can't run. Why are we faking a dive and
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Speaker 1: hold pulling it out when he can't do it.
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Speaker 2: You're you're not buying, you're not biting on the quarterback keep.
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Speaker 1: Well, let's put it this way. It's not worked yet,
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Speaker 1: and it's four games in. It's just but I mean,
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Speaker 1: I look at the pros. They don't with the exception
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Speaker 1: of the athletic quarterbacks that might have pulled occasionally pulled
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Speaker 1: the thing out and go. The fact is they don't
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Speaker 1: do that. And that's who DJ is. He's a drop
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Speaker 1: back thrower who has accuracy issues but can throw the ball.
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Speaker 1: Why aren't we just running a pro style offense.
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Speaker 2: I think they're I think they're kind of complacement, rocking
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Speaker 2: a hard place in the sense that you don't you know. Again,
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Speaker 2: the offensive line, I thought showed more life and run
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Speaker 2: blocking this week, so that was a positive, you know,
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Speaker 2: but this is not a receiving corps that's very dynamic
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Speaker 2: and you know, and I think that the offensive line
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Speaker 2: has not been very good either, and so I feel
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Speaker 2: like he's doing whatever he can to try to give
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Speaker 2: the receivers more time to get open. So if you
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Speaker 2: if you do run the play action or you know,
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Speaker 2: whether it's a zone read or it's just just a
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Speaker 2: normal play action, I'm guessing he's thinking that at least
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Speaker 2: put some of the linebackers maybe safeties in conflict, and
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Speaker 2: that'll help these wide receivers get up. And that's my theory.
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Speaker 2: I can ask him. But at the end of the day,
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Speaker 2: I just think if you're if you're an offensive football
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Speaker 2: team with a quarterback who's not very good and DJ
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Speaker 2: has not played anything close to very good, and you
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Speaker 2: don't have very talented receivers, I just think passing is
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Speaker 2: going to be difficult, so you can rearrange the chairs
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Speaker 2: on the Titanic. I don't know how much better it's
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Speaker 2: going to be. That's why I think leaning more into
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Speaker 2: the running game, which they did effectively early this game.
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Speaker 2: For most of the first half, they ran the ball well,
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Speaker 2: they just didn't perform well when they got towards the
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Speaker 2: red zone. You know, I think that's going to be
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Speaker 2: the only real ticket for this offense.
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Speaker 1: Well, i'll tell you what. I feel like you need
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Speaker 1: to give a medal of honor to Jakai Douglass because
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Speaker 1: he's just a gamer. He just finds a way to
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Speaker 1: get open and make tough catches when most guys don't
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Speaker 1: want to. But I don't know, he doesn't seem like
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Speaker 1: he's going to change quarterbacks, So it seems as though
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Speaker 1: he owes it to DJ. If that's the case, to
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Speaker 1: not put him in a position where everybody on the
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Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball knows he's not pulling and
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Speaker 1: running and if he does, we'll catch up with him.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know a defensive tackle can run him down.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no question. And that's why you know, myself and
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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people would like to see
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Speaker 2: broccoln and get a chance, not even not to say
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Speaker 2: that he's a better overall quarterback than where DJ is
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Speaker 2: right now. Rock still a redshirt freshman, but he does
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Speaker 2: have athletic ability, he does have a desire to run,
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Speaker 2: and he's going to look to you know, he's going
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Speaker 2: to look to make plays with his legs. So I
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Speaker 2: think with everything FS She's facing, he still gives them
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Speaker 2: a great chance to win. If Florida State hadn't gotten
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Speaker 2: that early lead and it kind of felt like they
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Speaker 2: were POSI control of the game early on, I wonder
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Speaker 2: if you would have gone to broccoln at least see
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Speaker 2: what it looks like. But then once you have a
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Speaker 2: slim lead, I think you probably don't want to take
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Speaker 2: a chance that maybe he did something to cost it.
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Speaker 2: So I still think there's a chance brocclyn gets into
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Speaker 2: one of these games and we'll see what it looks
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Speaker 2: like if he does.
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Speaker 1: Twenty one minutes past the hour the Morning Show with
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Speaker 1: Preston's got talking a little FSU football and joining us
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Speaker 1: Iris Chaffel from Warchan dot com, Ira, your colleague Corey
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Speaker 1: Clark wrote, I thought a really fascinating piece on the
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Speaker 1: offensive line and just taking more of a I guess,
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Speaker 1: thirty thousand foot view of it and going back and
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Speaker 1: looking at some numbers, it seemed to point out that
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Speaker 1: short of Jordan Travis being the incredible athlete he was
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Speaker 1: running the football, the offensive line and dodging rushes when
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Speaker 1: he's throwing has been weak for years now improved under
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Speaker 1: Alex Adkins. But what's your takeaway from that piece and
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Speaker 1: what points do you think he made that are valid?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, he and I have been talking about
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Speaker 2: this for the last couple of weeks because one of
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Speaker 2: the things we're trying to figure out is again, you know,
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Speaker 2: you know, because the premise he had earlier in the
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Speaker 2: year was, you know, does Mike Norvel need Jordan Travis?
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Speaker 2: And my pushback on that is, go look back at
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Speaker 2: Mike Norvel's offenses at Arizona State and at Memphis. They
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Speaker 2: had tremendous offenses top ten in the country practically every
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Speaker 2: year when he was in Memphis, and so it's not
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Speaker 2: just about Jordan Travis. But then we started kind of
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Speaker 2: looking at Alex Akin's track record as the offensive line
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Speaker 2: coach and honestly, before he came to Florida, State, he
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Speaker 2: had never been at this level. He'd been at a
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Speaker 2: Group of five level, and even when he was there,
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Speaker 2: he had really mobile quarterbacks that obviously can help your
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Speaker 2: offensive line. And for most of the time he's been
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Speaker 2: a Florida State at Jordan Travis, who is one of
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Speaker 2: the most dynamic, mobile quarterbacks you'll ever come across. So
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Speaker 2: you know, now you start asking yourself, Okay, well does
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Speaker 2: Alex Atkins can he build an offensive line that helps
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Speaker 2: a more stationary quarterback, which, as you said earlier, is
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Speaker 2: what dj Ue Unglea is and maybe that clouded their
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Speaker 2: perceptions of what this team could be. So again, like
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Speaker 2: this is you know, a lot of times you can
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Speaker 2: just make rash judgments and decisions based on one piece
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Speaker 2: of evidence. I think what we're right now is we're
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Speaker 2: just kind of collecting all the data and looking at Okay,
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Speaker 2: maybe this is the problem. And the reality is, you know,
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Speaker 2: if you haven't coached at the highest level of college football,
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Speaker 2: maybe you don't realize exactly what you need from those
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Speaker 2: offensive linemen, and that could color some of the recruiting
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Speaker 2: decisions they made. So again, I don't think we're ready
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Speaker 2: to say that Alex Akins is clearly the problem. But
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Speaker 2: without a mobile quarterback, they have not had any success.
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Speaker 1: Well, this weekend, SMU is on the schedule, and a
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Speaker 1: lot of people are going to overlook SMU, but they
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Speaker 1: just put sixty six on TCU. If I'm not mistaken,
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Speaker 1: on the road, and I don't see Florida State beating
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Speaker 1: them in an offensive showdown. So in your mind, what
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Speaker 1: does this game come down to?
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Speaker 2: You know, to me, I'm hanging everything on this defense.
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Speaker 2: You know, I thought the way they played in that
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Speaker 2: game was big, and I think that's been in there.
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Speaker 2: You know, this is a team that coming into the
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Speaker 2: season we thought it would be the defense would be
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Speaker 2: the strength of this team, and then the running game
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Speaker 2: on offense, those you know, two things showed improvement. That
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Speaker 2: wasn't It wasn't constant with the running game, but we
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Speaker 2: saw some signs where they really ran the ball a
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Speaker 2: lot better. And then defensively, you know, that was the
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Speaker 2: best game of the season. It's really two good games
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Speaker 2: in a row for the defense. And you know that
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Speaker 2: smusup a lot of points, but they have not played
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Speaker 2: a lot of great defenses, and you know, I think
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Speaker 2: TCU turned the ball over some So this is the game.
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Speaker 2: I think Florida State just has to play a clean
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Speaker 2: the past to victory for Florida State to me is
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Speaker 2: you know the defense team that keep them in it,
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Speaker 2: not make any mistakes and just try to keep it close.
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Speaker 2: But but uh, you know, they're gonna be an underdog
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Speaker 2: on the road, and they have not prepared well as
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Speaker 2: favorites so far, so it's hard to say that they're
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Speaker 2: definitely gonna go get a win on the road.
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Speaker 1: That leads me to my next question. I think coach
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Speaker 1: Norvell is making mistakes, at least in this last game.
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Speaker 1: Not trotting Ryan Fitzgerald out there, who might be the
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Speaker 1: best kicker in the country. He's going to have to
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Speaker 1: take points and not go for it with a questionable
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Speaker 1: offense when he can take a shot out of field goal.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't he.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I agree with you. I think he you know, listen,
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Speaker 2: I think one of his strengths is a person as
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Speaker 2: a coach is he is. He has so much belief.
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Speaker 2: I agree, and but but I think it's become a
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Speaker 2: problem because going for two the week before, I thought
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Speaker 2: it was a mistake for the same reason. Uh, just
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Speaker 2: go ahead and get the one point and then in
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Speaker 2: this situation, and yeah, they were. It was third and
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Speaker 2: you know, medium to long around the thirty five yard
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Speaker 2: thirty eight yard line. I thought the mistake was not
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Speaker 2: trying to get a few yards on third down to
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Speaker 2: set up the field goal. Instead they threw it. It
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Speaker 2: was a complete and then that it would be a
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Speaker 2: fifty five yard field goal. He decided to go for it,
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Speaker 2: which it felt like there was slim chance of that happening,
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Speaker 2: and there was, so Yeah, I think playing for more
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Speaker 2: field goals might be the answer, because, like you said,
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Speaker 2: you have one of the best kickers in the country,
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Speaker 2: maybe the best.
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Speaker 1: When it's all said and done, what do you think
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Speaker 1: is going to happen Saturday night at eight o'clock in
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Speaker 1: uh it's Southern Methodists.
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Speaker 2: I haven't spent a ton of time breaking down everything
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Speaker 2: about SMU, but right now, it would be hard to
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Speaker 2: pick Florida State just because the offense is played. The
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Speaker 2: offense is plays so poorly at home it's hard to
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Speaker 2: imagine they're going to play well on the road. So
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Speaker 2: you know, I think Florida State's going to have a
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Speaker 2: tough time scoring more than fourteen points again. And if
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Speaker 2: that's the case, you know, I'd probably pick SMU to
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Speaker 2: win the game.
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Speaker 1: Well, bless his heart, DJ's not going to get booed
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Speaker 1: when he comes out of the tunnel. Let SMU though, Ira, Yeah.
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Speaker 2: He might get seered over there.
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Speaker 1: Oh I feel so bad for that kid, I really do.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely not what he signed up for and
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Speaker 2: it's definitely not what but at the same time, you know,
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Speaker 2: he's not playing well. And even his father, who's very
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Speaker 2: active on social media, was on social media this weekend
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Speaker 2: accepting that that. Listen, you know, you can't question his heart, no,
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Speaker 2: the character, but he's but he's certainly not playing well
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Speaker 2: and they all have to get a lot better.
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Speaker 1: Iras always, thank you. We'll talk again next week.
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Speaker 2: Thanks pressing to take care, all
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Speaker 1: Right, Iras Chafelle with us from war chant dot com
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Speaker 1: twenty seven past the hour