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Hour Two | Dr. Etheredge Joins, Spring Football Takeaways & Team Outlook · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: Off the Bench. We have to Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, here we go where the.
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  Speaker 1: Hour two of Off.
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  Speaker 3: The Bench live from the Raisincanes Studio.
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  Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in now we number two of
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  Speaker 4: Stephen Anthrits joined us every single Wednesday here at eight am.
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  Speaker 4: Back again, Doc, Good to see you, against sir, missed
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  Speaker 4: you last week.
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  Speaker 6: Glad to be here.
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  Speaker 5: Well are you really sitting next to Flynn?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? We had a great time last week.
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  Speaker 5: Did you sit over here or did he sit like
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  Speaker 5: there like the booth a man?
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  Speaker 7: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm not sitting in that you.
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  Speaker 8: It'd have been actually pretty funny, A little same sad
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  Speaker 8: next time, Lason, I would say, that sometimes we go
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  Speaker 8: out to say, hey, you want a same sad sit
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  Speaker 8: or what it's usually I'm a no on that, but yeah,
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  Speaker 8: that's a no. But if we go to like a
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  Speaker 8: fore top that's not a booth, we do sit like
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  Speaker 8: caddy corner at each other.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah that makes sense, that's okay. Yeah, I think that's
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  Speaker 9: more acceptable.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's that's the romantic way to do it.
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  Speaker 5: I had to do it which way.
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  Speaker 8: Like we said, it's a four top table instead of
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  Speaker 8: a booth, we sip caddy corner. Yeah, yeah, yeah, not
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  Speaker 8: a cross caddy corner. Why why that? I'm just romantic,
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  Speaker 8: says who says me and me and my wife. Okay,
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  Speaker 8: it feels like something you forced her into. Uh you
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  Speaker 8: had a question about concussion, Yeah, just right. So we
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  Speaker 8: were kind of like looking around the sporting world and
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  Speaker 8: there's not like a lot to report or talk about
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  Speaker 8: specific injuries or at least that we haven't like discussed before.
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  Speaker 8: But we did see Wimby last week. He's like thirty
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  Speaker 8: eight feet tall, so when he fall, he fall hard,
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  Speaker 8: it's a long way.
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  Speaker 2: He was a long way to fall.
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  Speaker 8: He landed on his head and like he kind of
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  Speaker 8: acted like he went to sleep a little bit, he
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  Speaker 8: got a concussed But you don't see I guess, I
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  Speaker 8: guess you don't see it from basketball players that often.
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  Speaker 8: But I was wondering, like when you would always hear
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  Speaker 8: somebody that gets concussed or gets dinged in the head,
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  Speaker 8: You're like doctors usually told him, don't go to sleep.
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  Speaker 2: Don't take you that until you get it. Look, why
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  Speaker 2: is that?
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  Speaker 5: Well?
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  Speaker 9: I will say some of that kind of line of
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  Speaker 9: thinking has definitely gone away. What you want to make
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  Speaker 9: sure somebody's neurologically intact. You want to be able to
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  Speaker 9: do a good evaluation, you know, I will say with
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  Speaker 9: the concussions, we've kind of kind of gone a little
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  Speaker 9: bit the other way.
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  Speaker 6: Now these with a lot of the recommendations.
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  Speaker 9: Now, if you're really worried about some kind of a
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  Speaker 9: head injury, you want to continue to assess them, especially
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  Speaker 9: if it's something more than a concussion, so if they
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  Speaker 9: might have, say a brain bleed or something like that,
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  Speaker 9: because you want to be aware if all of a
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  Speaker 9: sudden there's a mental status change.
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  Speaker 6: So I think the thought of not letting them.
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  Speaker 9: Go to sleep is more so you can continue to
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  Speaker 9: get reassurance that they're neurologically intact. Because if you know,
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  Speaker 9: somebody goes and lays down for the whole night and
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  Speaker 9: let's just say, you know, heaven forbid they had a
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  Speaker 9: more serious head injury, like a brain bleed, it might
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  Speaker 9: continue to bleed, it continue to expand and put pressure
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  Speaker 9: on the brain.
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  Speaker 6: Then they have more serious symptoms. You may not be aware.
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  Speaker 9: But you know, the flip side of that is, if
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  Speaker 9: you have an injury, especially a head injury, of rest
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  Speaker 9: is the most important thing. So so you know, if
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  Speaker 9: I really feel comfortable that it's a concussion but not
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  Speaker 9: a more serious injury, I'm actually really big in saying, hey,
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  Speaker 9: you need to sleep, because that's that's how you get better.
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  Speaker 8: Interesting because I was like always like as a kid,
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  Speaker 8: someone would get hit in the head and they're like,
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  Speaker 8: you can't go to sleep?
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  Speaker 4: Is it one of those ones Like it used to
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  Speaker 4: be like if you just ate food, you can't go
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  Speaker 4: swimming for thirty minutes.
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  Speaker 9: Probably, So you know, it's kind of a similar logic. Yeah,
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  Speaker 9: you don't want to cramp in the water, you don't.
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  Speaker 9: You don't want them to start, you know, vomiting and
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  Speaker 9: and and suddenly start to really deteriorate on you and
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  Speaker 9: not be aware. So I think the big thing I
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  Speaker 9: tell people is looking and maybe the first night monitor them.
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  Speaker 9: But you don't just have to keep them up, you know,
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  Speaker 9: unless we're really worried. But then I they're really worried,
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  Speaker 9: they probably need to be at the hospital and not
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  Speaker 9: well doc.
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  Speaker 8: And this is this brings up a very important topic
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  Speaker 8: now that we're getting into pool season. If you get
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  Speaker 8: a big lunch in, you need to wait thirty.
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  Speaker 6: Minutes, you know.
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  Speaker 9: I've always told people that, but what I've read suggests
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  Speaker 9: probably it's not as as brucial as we all think.
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  Speaker 9: But I don't want to be the one that's telling
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  Speaker 9: you not to, so it's it's it's probably okay, but but.
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  Speaker 8: Hey, I'm at least just made me walk around until
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  Speaker 8: I burned. Then I can give back him.
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  Speaker 6: I think that sounds science.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it just sound science. I like, you don't want
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  Speaker 2: the guess in there.
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  Speaker 5: I like it all right.
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  Speaker 4: So I've got one for you that I was thinking
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  Speaker 4: about because I went over the facility yesterday and most
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  Speaker 4: talking with some of the players and just you know,
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  Speaker 4: getting some some updates on how they were feeling.
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  Speaker 5: I started thinking about it because this wasn't.
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  Speaker 4: A thing when we were playing, like guys that participated
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  Speaker 4: in spring or you know, guys that were limited in spring,
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  Speaker 4: like for y'all, now, like do you have like a
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  Speaker 4: weekly check up with those players? And obviously we're not
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  Speaker 4: talking specific names, but like weekly, is it every other week?
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  Speaker 4: Because like, I don't think we had that. I'm not
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  Speaker 4: sure that we did at least when we were playing.
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  Speaker 4: But now obviously the game's changed a little bit. Like
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  Speaker 4: is that something where it's like, hey, I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 4: here on Wednesdays, come in, we're gonna check you out,
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  Speaker 4: or how is that process to make sure that they're
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  Speaker 4: staying on the right path to be able to you know,
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  Speaker 4: be ready for fall.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, it's it's it's like almost everything has
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  Speaker 9: becoming year round. Yeah, it's it's we have people out there, like,
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  Speaker 9: you know, I'm there every Wednesday that the days i'm here,
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  Speaker 9: I go from here to campus. If there's guys that
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  Speaker 9: we need to follow up on, I'll probably see them
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  Speaker 9: the day. You know, obviously depends on the situation. You know,
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  Speaker 9: I say it a lot, but we rely really really
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  Speaker 9: heavily on the athletic train or sou so you know,
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  Speaker 9: they're coming in doing their rehab every day. Hopefully that's
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  Speaker 9: what they should be doing, and they're getting their rehab,
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  Speaker 9: they're getting their work, and the trainers are gonna keep
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  Speaker 9: us updated. So you know, they may not see me
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  Speaker 9: every week, but you know, if it's a transition where
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  Speaker 9: maybe we're thinking, okay, can we clear him to do more,
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  Speaker 9: or maybe the guy's not responding quickly enough or something
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  Speaker 9: like that, then yeah, what we'll see him. But but
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  Speaker 9: we do follow up pretty regular you know, we get
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  Speaker 9: injury reports every day. They send those out even this
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  Speaker 9: time of year, and we know, like, hey, so and
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  Speaker 9: so has been progressing well with his hamstring or he's not,
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  Speaker 9: you know, and maybe they need to see me if
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  Speaker 9: that's the case or something.
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  Speaker 5: Doc.
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  Speaker 8: Let's talk about. Of course, last week was the NFL Draft.
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  Speaker 8: Saints make a big move. I think that everybody can,
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  Speaker 8: every Saints fan can get behind and takeing Jordan Tyson
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  Speaker 8: as the eighth overall pick. Now the only controversy that
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  Speaker 8: this has at all because he probably the most dynamic
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  Speaker 8: receiver in this draft well deserved to go top ten,
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  Speaker 8: but the only like drawback has been his injury. His
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  Speaker 8: a lot of it. Okay, So taking back to twenty
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  Speaker 8: twenty two, he had a knee tair so ACL mcl
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  Speaker 8: PCL it happens, right, and this is we're four years
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  Speaker 8: past that that kind of happens. But this past season
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  Speaker 8: a lot of soft tissue stuff. When you see a
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  Speaker 8: guy that has a history of soft tissue injury, is
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  Speaker 8: this something that can be fixed or is this as
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  Speaker 8: a doctor, as an athletic trainer, as a coach, like,
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  Speaker 8: if you see a guy that has some soft tissue stuff,
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  Speaker 8: is this something that could potentially linger forever? They're just
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  Speaker 8: more They're more likely whatever, for whatever reason their body type,
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  Speaker 8: their muscle, whatever, genetically that they are more inclined to
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  Speaker 8: have and continue to have soft tissue injuries.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, the whole injury prone question is always a tough one.
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  Speaker 2: There.
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  Speaker 9: There's I do think there are athletes who whatever it
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  Speaker 9: is they're genetics, maybe it's their previous injuries that have
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  Speaker 9: kind of predisposed them, but become more injury prone. But
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  Speaker 9: then on the other hand, I also think just as
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  Speaker 9: often as bad luck, so it's hard to kind of
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  Speaker 9: sort through that. A guy with a lot of soft
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  Speaker 9: tissue injuries, you know, in my mind, it's either somebody
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  Speaker 9: who's injury prone, or maybe it's somebody we just need
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  Speaker 9: to get a better training program. Maybe where they were before,
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  Speaker 9: and no no shade at any particular schools or anything,
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  Speaker 9: but maybe where they were because it might have been
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  Speaker 9: the athlete just not taken part in enough of it.
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  Speaker 9: Maybe they weren't doing a good rehab with a serious
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  Speaker 9: knee injury like you had a few years ago. You
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  Speaker 9: know a lot of times that next year you'll will
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  Speaker 9: see some of these soft tissue injuries. So maybe we
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  Speaker 9: kind of say, well, look, I think once we get
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  Speaker 9: them really rehab from the knee, he'll do a lot better.
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  Speaker 9: But you know, you're compensating for a while. You're you
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  Speaker 9: got a scar tissue, you got a lot.
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  Speaker 6: Of things, you know.
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  Speaker 9: So I think it is a really hard question, but
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  Speaker 9: is there some concern especially with these history of multiple
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  Speaker 9: soft tissue injuries. Absolutely, because we've all had those athletes.
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  Speaker 9: And look, I think I think our staff does a
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  Speaker 9: good job. We have some good tricks. We do a
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  Speaker 9: lot of the you know, we've talked to sometimes different
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  Speaker 9: biologic injections that we'll do, and and we brought some
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  Speaker 9: of these guys in and thinking that we might be
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  Speaker 9: able to fix these these you know, quote soft tissue injuries,
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  Speaker 9: and sometimes it's still really really hard.
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  Speaker 2: So is the term injury is that a thing? Is
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  Speaker 2: it real? Are people?
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  Speaker 8: And I know that people are doing like these DNA
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  Speaker 8: tasks to see like, oh well, this guy's more likely
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  Speaker 8: to have an ACL or a kill whatever it is.
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  Speaker 8: But is when you say like, is it all bad
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  Speaker 8: luck or that some people their bodies are just built
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  Speaker 8: to get injured more?
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  Speaker 9: I really think it's both. But unfortunately I don't know
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  Speaker 9: that we've identified what that risk factor is. There's certain
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  Speaker 9: things we know some people have, you know, connective tissue
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  Speaker 9: issues where their their joints are looser, and it's interesting
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  Speaker 9: because those are people who are sometimes able to do more.
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  Speaker 6: You look at a lot of swimmers. Always think about
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  Speaker 6: Michae Phillips.
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  Speaker 9: I've used this example before, but he used that thing
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  Speaker 9: where we flap his arms and he'd almost clap his
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  Speaker 9: hands behind his back, and I was like, that's not normal.
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  Speaker 9: And so he was clear the guy that had some
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  Speaker 9: looser connective tissue. So it allowed him to excel it
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  Speaker 9: to sport. But those things do increase your risk for injury.
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  Speaker 9: So we do know a few things. But and then
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  Speaker 9: I think there's other conditions where just somebody is just the.
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  Speaker 6: Way they're made.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, and sometimes look at these explosive fast guys.
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  Speaker 5: I was going to ask you that portion.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, because like Zion Williamson has some soft tiss he's
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  Speaker 4: incredibly explosive and has a different body type. I've told
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  Speaker 4: the story one hundred times my rookie year. I'm running
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  Speaker 4: a route and I'm like, feel like a little grab
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  Speaker 4: my hamstring or whatever. I'm kind of holding my hamstring
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  Speaker 4: and nerve yells you're not fast enough to pull your hamstring.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, you're probably right.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, I think it feels like maybe if you are
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  Speaker 4: that explosive fast twitch guy.
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  Speaker 9: If you look most there's always exceptions, but most of
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  Speaker 9: these hamstring strands, the vast majority, they're gonna be your
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  Speaker 9: fast guys. And and again, you think about physics. It's
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  Speaker 9: it's it's it's a force, it's it's speed, acceleration, all
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  Speaker 9: those things, And that's just physics. You put more torque,
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  Speaker 9: more force on that tendon, it's more likely to pop
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  Speaker 9: or that muscle. So but on the other hand, you
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  Speaker 9: know that's that's so where is that line? And because
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  Speaker 9: I do think a lot of times it is bad
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  Speaker 9: luck too. Just you know, really, you know, I've seen
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  Speaker 9: you look at some guys and there's different types of injuries,
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  Speaker 9: and it's just, you know, I think of like a
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  Speaker 9: guy like Joe Burrow, who's kind of gotten that. And
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  Speaker 9: of course we love Joe, but I don't think he's
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  Speaker 9: an injury prone guy because they've all been different injuries,
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  Speaker 9: you know, and if you look at each one individually,
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  Speaker 9: it's a regular injury.
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  Speaker 6: But he's had several level these past few years.
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  Speaker 9: And and some type of people are saying that, and
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  Speaker 9: it's on the one hand, you can't argue he's been injured,
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  Speaker 9: but if you look at there, there's such different mechanisms.
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  Speaker 9: It's kind of you know, I think it goes both ways.
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  Speaker 8: How does the mechanism work of just let's talk about
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  Speaker 8: like a hamstring pool. Excuse me, you could run ten
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  Speaker 8: thousand sprints as fast as you can, then for whatever reason,
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  Speaker 8: this one time you do it, your hamstring pools Like
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  Speaker 8: mechanically what like it's just something just doesn't line up correctly.
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  Speaker 8: Is there a worn down muscle or there micro tears
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  Speaker 8: that just eventually that you don't feel eventually just give way.
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  Speaker 8: Why that one time when you've done it ten, ten
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  Speaker 8: thousand other times.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I think you'll find a few different reasons sometimes there.
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  Speaker 9: If you really talk to a lot of these athletes,
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  Speaker 9: they'll mention to you know, I've actually been feeling kind
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  Speaker 9: of tight. It've been feeling kind of tight the past
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  Speaker 9: two or three days when I was running, felt kind
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  Speaker 9: of tight. The number of times I've heard that, so
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  Speaker 9: there was probably already a little bit of kind of
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  Speaker 9: where art in the build? And maybe in those situations
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  Speaker 9: we should rain them back in. But the problem is
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  Speaker 9: a lot of times you're the same thing.
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  Speaker 6: They do just fine.
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  Speaker 9: I think sometimes it's a mechanics thing, you know, they
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  Speaker 9: maybe they step funny, maybe they have to suddenly pivot
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  Speaker 9: or shift or slow down a lot quicker than they anticipated,
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  Speaker 9: or you know, I look at that. I pulled a hamstring,
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  Speaker 9: and the funny thing was, I made it all the
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  Speaker 9: way through, and I'd done pretty well, and I was
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  Speaker 9: playing in a flag football game. After I was done
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  Speaker 9: by stepped like a little hole so slightly hyper extended,
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  Speaker 9: And that was the first time I'd ever really had
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  Speaker 9: a bad hamstring. Pool and and again it was it
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  Speaker 9: was a kind of a misstep. And you will see
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  Speaker 9: that a lot of times, you know, they step kind
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  Speaker 9: of funny land, kind of funny. So that that sometimes
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  Speaker 9: and then other times it kind of we talked about
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  Speaker 9: a mon just bad luck.
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  Speaker 6: Just something that day.
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  Speaker 9: You may run another thousand sprints, never happen again, but
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  Speaker 9: that one time it just catches you.
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  Speaker 8: Right, So when you pull a hamstring, there's a pull
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  Speaker 8: and there's a tear, right, But even a pool is
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  Speaker 8: that like micro tears?
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  Speaker 2: Like what yeah, what is it? Is it just inflamed?
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  Speaker 9: You know, it's funny because it brings up a good topic.
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  Speaker 9: People always come in and they're like, hey, did I
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  Speaker 9: sprain it or did I tear it? Or did I
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  Speaker 9: strain it.
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  Speaker 6: Or did I tear it?
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  Speaker 9: Whatever the scenario is, and the medical speak it's the same.
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  Speaker 9: So if I say you strained your hamstring, that that
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  Speaker 9: is a version of a tear. House of years it
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  Speaker 9: so like a grade one is a very mile That's
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  Speaker 9: what probably most people think of.
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  Speaker 6: It's a strain.
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  Speaker 9: A grade two is a more significant tear of grade
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  Speaker 9: three is a complete disruption, a complete tear. So most
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  Speaker 9: people thinking of a grade three as a tear, and
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  Speaker 9: maybe a grade one to two is a strain. For us,
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  Speaker 9: they're all strains. It's just which one. It's just like
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  Speaker 9: a difference between a broken bone or a fracture. It's
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  Speaker 9: the same in our book as well. The fracture is
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  Speaker 9: a broken bone. Most people say fracture, think a little
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  Speaker 9: crack break.
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  Speaker 6: So it's funny.
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  Speaker 9: The terminology that we use is sometimes different than what
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  Speaker 9: is used by the public.
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  Speaker 8: So if a muscle is tight or hurt, there's some
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  Speaker 8: sort of muscle fibers tearing.
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  Speaker 9: Yes, yeah, a small strain that's very micro tearing, but
• 13:41
  Speaker 9: no disruption was actually pulled apart.
• 13:43
  Speaker 5: All right, Well, I'm glad you said that last one.
• 13:45
  Speaker 4: Because you were asking about Jordan Tyson, I'll ask you
• 13:48
  Speaker 4: about Oscar delp. He was the third round selection out
• 13:51
  Speaker 4: of Georgia for the New Orleans Saints. He played the
• 13:54
  Speaker 4: entire twenty twenty five season where they fractured left foot.
• 13:57
  Speaker 4: Didn't even find out he had a fracture in his
• 13:59
  Speaker 4: foot until the NFL combine.
• 14:01
  Speaker 6: Really, yes, yeah, that happens a lot.
• 14:03
  Speaker 9: It's it's you know, it's it's well, look and I
• 14:05
  Speaker 9: will say this, you know, sometimes it's on the athletes.
• 14:08
  Speaker 6: Sometimes they're not telling you.
• 14:09
  Speaker 9: So a lot of times, you know, we have a
• 14:10
  Speaker 9: lot had a lot of athletes that don't that don't
• 14:12
  Speaker 9: report injuries.
• 14:13
  Speaker 6: Sometimes it's on the athletes.
• 14:15
  Speaker 9: Sometimes they don't they won't let you get imaging because
• 14:16
  Speaker 9: they know, like, hey, I'm going to the league next year,
• 14:18
  Speaker 9: so I'm not gonna let you get an X ray
• 14:20
  Speaker 9: or an MRI on my foot or whatever it is
• 14:22
  Speaker 9: that we're talking about. And and then sometimes sometimes you know,
• 14:25
  Speaker 9: it takes a while to see it. You know, I've
• 14:27
  Speaker 9: got X rays and I'll look at it and it
• 14:28
  Speaker 9: looks fine. They come back two weeks later and you
• 14:30
  Speaker 9: get another one to go, yeah, there's the crack clear
• 14:31
  Speaker 9: as day. And even you go back, you may not
• 14:33
  Speaker 9: see it initially. So there's a lot of variability there,
• 14:36
  Speaker 9: you know, and especially some of these stress fractures and
• 14:38
  Speaker 9: things like that, and you know, if you're not gonna
• 14:39
  Speaker 9: get the MRI, and and like I said, there's a
• 14:41
  Speaker 9: lot of reasons why that doesn't happen.
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: And how much is like like playing football, I was
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: always you know, you'd have something to be like that's
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: just getting callous for football, Like stuff's gonna hurt, like
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: and maybe you don't even know what it is talk
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: about it, but then you know this at the combine,
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: like you're gonna go through a seven to ten hour
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: physical like the most thorough physically you've ever been even
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: if you never missed a game, which he did.
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: He didn't miss a game or practice with this.
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: Injury because he's going through this incredible like all hands
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: on deg ten hour physical.
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: They found it.
• 15:09
  Speaker 6: Oh they and and here's the here's one of the differences.
• 15:11
  Speaker 9: Like they are going to order the studies there, they
• 15:14
  Speaker 9: have everything there, they have the ctvm RI, and the
• 15:16
  Speaker 9: athletes cannot refuse. So once you are there, you know,
• 15:19
  Speaker 9: like I said, we've had a lot of athletes to say, look,
• 15:21
  Speaker 9: I'm not gonna get you. And they can do that
• 15:23
  Speaker 9: because that's their their medical right. But when you go there,
• 15:25
  Speaker 9: you're basically signing up saying whatever you want, I'm gonna
• 15:28
  Speaker 9: do and and and and they know that. So when
• 15:30
  Speaker 9: you step in and if you even mentioned that my
• 15:32
  Speaker 9: foot was a little bit sore, they are going to
• 15:34
  Speaker 9: get an MRI of your foot.
• 15:36
  Speaker 6: You know, that's just the reality.
• 15:38
  Speaker 9: You know, you had you had an injury when you
• 15:39
  Speaker 9: were in ninth grade and you played all of college,
• 15:41
  Speaker 9: high school, in college after that.
• 15:42
  Speaker 6: But they're gonna get pictures of it. They want to
• 15:44
  Speaker 6: know what that was.
• 15:44
  Speaker 9: Oh, you broke your foot in ninth grade, even though
• 15:46
  Speaker 9: you played the last eight years. No issues, Let's let's
• 15:48
  Speaker 9: look at that foot. That's just that's just the nature
• 15:50
  Speaker 9: of it. And uh, and look, we do the same
• 15:52
  Speaker 9: things when we get athletes in here. But like I said,
• 15:54
  Speaker 9: the difference, the difference is what we can't force it.
• 15:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and and so that's part of it.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: Again.
• 16:01
  Speaker 9: Soon, Yeah, it may change. You know, some of them
• 16:03
  Speaker 9: are bargaining some of this. I think you're going to
• 16:05
  Speaker 9: see some of those changes. I think it will come.
• 16:07
  Speaker 9: As we're paying athletes. They're gonna there's gonna be expectations,
• 16:10
  Speaker 9: for sure. But we you know, we're still waiting.
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: There's eventually, and I know this is a whole different conversation.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: There's gonna be a fine system. I think down the road.
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: It might be ten years from now. But if you're
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: gonna get paid by the school and you don't live
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: up to those expectations, some schools, by the way, have
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: already started some.
• 16:26
  Speaker 9: Of them that we've started. Something money it's yeah, I
• 16:29
  Speaker 9: think Colorado is. Yeah, and we have some of that now. Again,
• 16:31
  Speaker 9: I don't think as rigid as what nowhere Nearest Ridge's
• 16:33
  Speaker 9: the NFL.
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: But no, you know, if you get fined for being underweight.
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: Or yeah, yeah, none of that.
• 16:38
  Speaker 9: But we we do have where you know, if a
• 16:39
  Speaker 9: guy didn't disclose something and then it comes up later.
• 16:42
  Speaker 9: I know that's worked into these new contracts here. So
• 16:44
  Speaker 9: if you if you came in with a back injury
• 16:46
  Speaker 9: and you don't tell us about it and then we
• 16:47
  Speaker 9: get you in, then we find out and then we
• 16:49
  Speaker 9: find out, oh yeah he hadn't and Maria done when
• 16:50
  Speaker 9: he was at Colorado. Let's just say, I know they're
• 16:53
  Speaker 9: working some of that in already, and I think, and
• 16:55
  Speaker 9: you should.
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: You're you're spending a lot of money.
• 16:56
  Speaker 8: I don't really know how much you can do that
• 16:58
  Speaker 8: as when you're for a contray that employee. Yeah, it's
• 17:01
  Speaker 8: like a normal employee can't really create a fine system
• 17:04
  Speaker 8: for a tennin nine contract employee.
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: Like down the road, like when things I think change,
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: like I think there's going to be collective bargaining, there's
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: gonna be.
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: It's not right now. Yeah, it's not right now, but
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: that's gonna happen.
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: It's coming.
• 17:17
  Speaker 9: If this this Jerson College football stays, it's coming, and
• 17:20
  Speaker 9: it should because it's way too much money. I mean,
• 17:22
  Speaker 9: you've had guys come in and then you find out,
• 17:24
  Speaker 9: oh gosh, he's not gonna play, or or we're dealing
• 17:26
  Speaker 9: with this injury that he's gonna be out half the
• 17:27
  Speaker 9: season and we were paying you to play the whole
• 17:29
  Speaker 9: year and accidents happened, injuries happening, and we re understand
• 17:31
  Speaker 9: that's part of the game. But if you come in
• 17:33
  Speaker 9: with it and we don't know about it, that's gonna be.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: A current state.
• 17:36
  Speaker 8: Current state football is not sustainable, so it needs something's
• 17:40
  Speaker 8: gonna have to get at some point. Last question for me, Doc,
• 17:43
  Speaker 8: have you ever called one of your athletes a wimp
• 17:48
  Speaker 8: and or some version of that word wimp?
• 17:51
  Speaker 9: I've probably used a version of it, yes, Okay, I
• 17:53
  Speaker 9: probably have. Yes, I don't know if I've used that
• 17:55
  Speaker 9: such a whimp. Yeah, I've probably used a slightly more
• 17:58
  Speaker 9: polite version maybe, but but aggressive.
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I tried.
• 18:02
  Speaker 9: You know, we have to still kind of whatever, but
• 18:04
  Speaker 9: we've definitely I will tell people. I will say sometimes
• 18:06
  Speaker 9: you guys tough it up, and sometimes you gotta do that.
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: That's probably now.
• 18:10
  Speaker 9: Yeah, now now we're talking about maybe some teams that
• 18:13
  Speaker 9: I've coached too. It's also different the the the medical
• 18:16
  Speaker 9: speak in the and the coach speaks sometimes aren't always
• 18:19
  Speaker 9: the same either. I've coached my son's teams, and sometimes unfortunate,
• 18:22
  Speaker 9: especially my son, I'm you're fine, get out there. You know,
• 18:24
  Speaker 9: there's a difference between hurt and injured. I've definitely loast
• 18:29
  Speaker 9: that line, and I use that. I've used that as
• 18:30
  Speaker 9: a physician, to be fair, plenty of times.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Does rebind dirt on injury, actually heal it.
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: My dad said, rub some dirt on it.
• 18:37
  Speaker 9: I think it worked. I think I think it works.
• 18:39
  Speaker 9: You know, look, I I my dad. I had a
• 18:41
  Speaker 9: bloody nose once. He told me to smear on my
• 18:42
  Speaker 9: face and the ref wouldn't surprise not let me come
• 18:45
  Speaker 9: back in the game. You know, I smeared all my
• 18:47
  Speaker 9: face and my dad told me. I think I was
• 18:48
  Speaker 9: like seven, and he makes me turn around.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: My dad said, you know what he knows, and you're
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: on face.
• 18:54
  Speaker 9: Apparently that's not acceptable in youth flag football.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Grow up?
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: What do we do it, Doctor Steven Athreide is good
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: enough to join us every single onesday here, Doc, we
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: always appreciate it, sir, Always a pleasure. All right, Well,
• 19:05
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• 19:09
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  Speaker 1: But I guess as I say.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Because I know the story maybe.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Off the bench presented by Hoodental that I loved you.
• 21:08
  Speaker 8: M I was always told not to go to sleep
• 21:12
  Speaker 8: after you get your head hit because you could just
• 21:14
  Speaker 8: slide wind up coma.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Good to know. Have you ever had a concussion bud undiagnosed?
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: I mean, seriously, do you think you've had one?
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: I mean I know for sure I have.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't remember.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: I'll give you a golf clap for that one.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Thank you, brain bruise.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: The muscle memory.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Though, when you have one, like you go back and
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: you're like, I don't remember any of that, but it's
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: like you're still doing the same things that, like a
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: football play.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Is yeah, pretty remarkable.
• 21:48
  Speaker 8: I got a I definitely got a concussion when I
• 21:50
  Speaker 8: was deep snapping on the JV team my freshman year.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Yep, you heard it.
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: I don't want to I don't want to explore that
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: because we'll spend.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Too much time on I snapped. The hell why didn't
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: you keep doing that? Because I just played quarterback?
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you could have like retired at quarterback and
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: got like five more years.
• 22:14
  Speaker 8: I was more like a one handed just like throw
• 22:16
  Speaker 8: a pass between my legs kind of guy. Yeah, all right,
• 22:22
  Speaker 8: because I and I can cussed. Got rocked, Yeah, cause
• 22:27
  Speaker 8: you're soft. It was probably why it was probably an
• 22:30
  Speaker 8: illegal head that didn't get united. The personal protector that
• 22:33
  Speaker 8: didn't last very long. I wasn't trained. That was that
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: was a bad rap.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: That was a bad rap for me, a.
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: Personal protector, like let's get cam bond.
• 22:45
  Speaker 8: I mean it was a little bit Derek Dooley's trying
• 22:47
  Speaker 8: to be the smartest guy in the room. He's a politician,
• 22:51
  Speaker 8: like how smart. I A, I'm gonna put our third
• 22:54
  Speaker 8: string quarterback that's never hit anybody personal protector.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: What Quinn Johnson ran through the aga untouched.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: Quinn Johnson, who's like literally the most brick wall human
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: I've ever played against.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: One hundred and eighty pounds head.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd be like, hey, Quinn settle, settled down. They'd
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: be like, I'm just standing here. Yeah, you're right.
• 23:15
  Speaker 8: They're like knock you on the ground and like pick
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: you up and give you a hug and tell you,
• 23:19
  Speaker 8: tell you loved you.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: He just like murk people in Green Bay. Like it
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: wasn't always controlled, but it was chaotic.
• 23:27
  Speaker 8: Took him about once he got to Green Bay. So
• 23:29
  Speaker 8: he was a draft pick, right, he was like fifth
• 23:31
  Speaker 8: or sixth round Yeah, as a fullback.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and three got drafted this year, so easy.
• 23:36
  Speaker 8: So but that was at a time I think we
• 23:38
  Speaker 8: carried two full backs all the time in Green Bay.
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: He it took him a while to figure it out. Yeah,
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: because like you had linebackers that are smart. Yeah, that
• 23:50
  Speaker 8: got some meat head linebackers that would not like just
• 23:53
  Speaker 8: head up, they wouldn't but they would bounce off his tackles.
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: They get low they'd get better positioning on him. They
• 23:59
  Speaker 8: you know, faint him one way or whatever. Uh But
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: once he got used to it, man, he I mean
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: it's the same thing like a humans, a human, and
• 24:06
  Speaker 8: that human's bigger and heavier head, and he would destroy people.
• 24:10
  Speaker 8: He just wasn't real like uh shifty, real shifty. Yeah,
• 24:15
  Speaker 8: a linebacker playing fullback. You just hurt people.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: He made.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he had a nice little Tennessee after you all
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: shout out Quinn, that's awesome human being for signing class.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: Let's go all right, So LSU Tigers all finished up
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: spring and now we look forward to the fall.
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: Uh so we'll start with quarterback position.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Okay, and we've got a great ride up on Louisiana
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: Sports dot Net by our guy Hunt Palmer. Right now,
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: it's kind of looking at everything post spring practice, maybe
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: what the depth chart would look like and what it's
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: going to look like at least to start the fall.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: So at the quarterback position, we know Sam Levitt was
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: limited out there, had the pens taken out of his foot.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: After that happened, he shut it down, but is on
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: track to be ready for a lot of the summer
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: workout and certainly be ready for fall practice. Now you
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: had a couple of quarterbacks, Longstreet and Clark that because
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: sam Levitt wasn't able to go got valuable reps. And
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: this isn't just like going to watch practice or talking
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: to coaches like I talked to players because I wanted
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: to know, like all right, hey, walk me through the
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: quarterback development. And they said, man, it started out, and
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: they were honest, like it started out kind of rough.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: And there was a switch that got flipped about a
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: week and a half into spring practice, and they said,
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: once it did, you could tell, all right, they're getting
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: the offense. They're understanding what their duties are going to
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: be within this offense because it's a unique offense.
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: Not everybody runs that.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: How valuable though, do you think those reps are going
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: to be for those two quarterbacks? And how much did
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: sam Levitt I guess miss in a new offense not
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: being able to be out.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: There in the spring.
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: I don't think sam Levitt as much it could because
• 25:53
  Speaker 8: of his availability that he had out there, Yeah, at
• 25:56
  Speaker 8: every practice.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: So the.
• 26:00
  Speaker 8: It was never going to be good for any quarterback.
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: I don't care if it was sam Levitt out there.
• 26:04
  Speaker 8: It was never going to be good for anybody for
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: the first week or two because you're installing not only
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: are you installing a new offense, you're installing a different
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: lane Kiven offensive approach to football that you've probably never
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: done before. Now, maybe somebody was in a really fast
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: inpo and that approaches go as fast as you can
• 26:27
  Speaker 8: and limited and very little like verbal communication because everything's
• 26:32
  Speaker 8: got to be code worded and coded.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: And go as fasts you can.
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: It's not the same as like your standard no huddle
• 26:39
  Speaker 8: that you see that you might install for a couple
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: series in high school or college, whatever it is. This
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: is a basically a no huddle on steroids, like it's
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: going as fast as you can. So it's different than
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: anybody what anybody's ever done before. So that the struggle
• 26:56
  Speaker 8: in team situations and implementing and getting you used to
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: this new way of football was always going to be
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: a struggle. I don't care what quarterback you had in there.
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: When you do something new like that, it's going to
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: be there's going to be a learning curve. So again,
• 27:10
  Speaker 8: like if it was Sam Levin in there, the struggles
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: would have still been there just because but because Sam
• 27:16
  Speaker 8: was the availability, the mental availability as well as a
• 27:19
  Speaker 8: little bit of the physical availability and some of the
• 27:22
  Speaker 8: individual drills that we saw and be available for. That
• 27:26
  Speaker 8: was the learning curve, right, the how it's done seeing
• 27:30
  Speaker 8: it in practice, and it's not like you can bring
• 27:33
  Speaker 8: all these experienced guys over from old miss so they
• 27:36
  Speaker 8: can like teach them how it goes. Like these guys
• 27:39
  Speaker 8: are going and seeing it, they're hearing the coach talk
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: about how we're going to execute this fast type of base,
• 27:43
  Speaker 8: but they're not being able to like they're not learning
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: from seeing how it's done in a practice, so they're
• 27:48
  Speaker 8: just having to learn it on the fly. And these
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: coaches are having to teach them how to practice it
• 27:53
  Speaker 8: and teach them how a new practice, like a practice
• 27:55
  Speaker 8: type goes, and it's it's brand new for everybody, so
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: it was always going to be an issue. And then
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: you're going against the defense that has stability at the
• 28:03
  Speaker 8: coaching and like hasn't changed. Of course you're changing new faces,
• 28:06
  Speaker 8: but they know what it looks like and they know
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: what defense they're gonna run. So like there was always
• 28:11
  Speaker 8: there's thousand percent more stability on the defense when you start,
• 28:14
  Speaker 8: then there was the offense.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: So it was always going to be like all the.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: Coaches are basically the same, Right, you got two new
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: coaches I think on that side, yep, right, And one
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: of the new coaches is like Chris Cabin who's coaching linebackers,
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: but the Blake Baker, who coach linebackers is still there
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: as a deft coordinator. He now roams everywhere. So outside
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: of Kyle being gone, so everything else's.
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: The offense would have been ahead of the defense at
• 28:37
  Speaker 8: the beginning of spring. That had been a big h
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: that would have been really bad on the defensive side.
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: I agree, So I think everything's on schedule right now.
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: I don't think Sam Levitt is going to have that
• 28:47
  Speaker 8: same like catch up because he was again he was
• 28:50
  Speaker 8: out there, he saw.
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: In uniform helmet throwing the receiver.
• 28:53
  Speaker 8: But just being there and be able to watch a
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: practice and watch outs executed, that is that was the
• 29:00
  Speaker 8: biggest thing. The other guys, the two other quarterbacks, were
• 29:03
  Speaker 8: not able to watch how it goes. They just had
• 29:05
  Speaker 8: it like get thrown in there and yeah, this is
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: how we do it, like go get it, go get it,
• 29:09
  Speaker 8: get it, and they're.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Doing something they've never done before.
• 29:11
  Speaker 8: So yeah, yeah, that spring for that matter, the spring
• 29:15
  Speaker 8: was very important those first.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: To what you're talking about in the process of the
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: offense being different. It's not just a quarterback that's going
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: to have to learn that. Like the receivers like the thing.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: And you've heard me say this about Ole miss before
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: last year and when Lane was there. I love the
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: fact that when the receivers would make a catch, it
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: didn't matter where it was, it didn't matter how good
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: of a catch it was, it didn't matter what they did.
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: They didn't celebrate it.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: It was immediately it was get the ball, get it
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: to someone, get it set. Like if it was hey,
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: you catch it out of bounds, you give it to
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: the side judge and you go line up. If you
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: catch it between the hashes, you go spot the ball
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: right where you caught it. They're going to set the
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: ball and you're going there's no celebrating, there's no look, look,
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: I love a good a first down, I love all that.
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: Right, there ain't none of that. They are just getting
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: the balls. Like you got to learn that. And the
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: offensive line. I talked with one of the offensive line coaches.
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: He's like, no, everything's good. We just got to learn
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: how to play in this tempo, in this pace.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: He's like, because they're blocking their butts off, and then
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: they immediately got to get set and get on the line.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: It's like that that doesn't happen. And I was like,
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: it'sky talking through it with him and I was like, yeah,
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: you know, come off fourth quarter program. And he's like, no,
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: they're in shape. That's a different shape, right, and that's
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: a different mindset. And I was like, yeah, I mean
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: you're right because you think about when we were playing, right,
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: you make a run, make a catch, whatever. Well we're
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: coming back to the huddle, right, you're getting to play,
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: You're coming in, you're taking a knee in the huddle,
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: we're all hands on the knees like that's our time.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: There ain't none of that, obviously, And this is this
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: fast pace of an offense that you're gonna have in
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: the country. So you have to learn to play through that.
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: You have to learn to play at a high elite
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: level while you know, being exhausted, being tired. Look, they're
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: tired too the other side. You've got to get callaous
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: in that. And I think that's what spring practice was
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: good for for a couple of different position groups, but
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: maybe more so than need the offensive line.
• 31:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I can tell you I would not have liked
• 31:04
  Speaker 8: to play in this offense just as my playing style.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this lane has objectively an off someome offense.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you were a very, very productively a big huddle guy,
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: like I remember.
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: Like even if it's and I enjoyed the no huddle
• 31:18
  Speaker 8: as well, but my game would have just not meshed
• 31:23
  Speaker 8: And it doesn't really matter. But like just from a
• 31:25
  Speaker 8: quarterback like I, this isn't as much get into the
• 31:29
  Speaker 8: huddle and get into the line of scrimmage calling a
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: bunch of hard counts to dissect exactly what they're doing.
• 31:35
  Speaker 8: Like to me, I like like the defense was if
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: they got in their exotic pressures and there's it looks
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: cool because I got time, I'm gonna I'm gonna sit
• 31:43
  Speaker 8: here and dissect it and then figure out what to
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: do against that or how to how to beat that.
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: This is go as fast as you can. There's gonna
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: be less to look at. As a quarterback, there's still
• 31:52
  Speaker 8: a lot, but there's less to look at and try
• 31:54
  Speaker 8: to dissect.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: But we're going so fast. They got to play super
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: vanilla they do.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they can't do all the stuff that they've done
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: all season long. Saw that you know when we played.
• 32:02
  Speaker 8: All miss Yeah, I liked a little bit more of
• 32:04
  Speaker 8: the chess game, like the pre snapchest.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: So you liked you know, the cliff where your boy
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: Klay Matthews is yelling at Cam Newton saying like, hey
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: watch this why blah blah blah blah, Lae and Cam's like,
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: oh cool, watch this.
• 32:13
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• 32:14
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• 32:17
  Speaker 5: Pretty good, you're that guy.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: All right, we will step away. When we come back,
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: we'll get to some other position groups. Certainly want to
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: knock out the running back position group. We'll take a
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: look at some of the defensive battles as well. We'll
• 32:30
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  Speaker 5: Running back position here after spring practice. It's the most
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: important position on the football field. Matthew, what do you
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: mean you don't believe that.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: No, that's a very very important position. One of eleven.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: I would listen to you the one eleventh speech. No
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: quarterbacks ever thought that.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I bet you also really loved the Jeremiah Love pick.
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, of course I did.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: I had it mocked and like everyone we did on
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: NFL radio, I had Jeremi I Love going three overall
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: the best player in the draft.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: It was an awful pick.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, I really want to talk LSU here, but
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: you're making it really difficult, I know, because I want
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: to throw your little saying into the ground, like what
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: your thought process is right now?
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: Anyways, we're going to talk LSH running back here. Uh.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: Dylan Jones and so hunt in the article again on
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: louisiansports dot Net, he's kind of breaking down the offense
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: post spring. He says in the article, I truly believe
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: Dylan Jones would start if las who played a game
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: on May the first, And I don't think he's wrong.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: And that might be a big surprise for a lot
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: of people to hear that right now, because you have
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: Kaden Durham, you have Harlan Berry coming back, and they're
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: going to play.
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: This is going to be a three back rotation. Truly
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: believe that.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: But when you go out to spring practice, when you
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: talk to the people that are on the offensive staff,
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: when you talk to the players on defense, they keep
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: talking about Dylan Jones and what he is and what
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: he can bring to the table. Now, his stats aren't
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: like eye popping from a year ago at Wisconsin seventy
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: six carries, three hundred yards, only two touchdowns, only three
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: point nine yards per carry, so that production it wasn't
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: a lot. Now, he was a freshman, we all know
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: you get better as you go along, But in spring
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: he was very impressive. And again, like talking to the
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: guys on the defense, they did not like having to
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: tackle him in Spain, Like he has a little bit
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: of something right now that the other running backs don't have.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: So I do find it interesting that he has gained
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: this much momentum. He has really caught the attention of again,
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: not just the offensive staff, not just Kevin Smith, the
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: running backs coach, but really the defensive players that.
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: He's going against.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: So I think we could find our way into getting
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: back to what we've seen for a long time at LSU,
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: a true running back by rotation.
• 38:00
  Speaker 8: Yeah, what kind of what kind of back is Dylan
• 38:02
  Speaker 8: Jones you talked about They don't want to really didn't
• 38:04
  Speaker 8: want to see him in the open field because he's
• 38:06
  Speaker 8: got I.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: Think he's got a little bit well, no, I think
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: he's got a little bit of everything. Is kind of
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: the way that again when I was talking with the
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: players that they kind of described it of he can
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: run past you, he can make you miss, he can
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: kind of try to run through you you know he's
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: he's right there at the five eleven and a half
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: six foot two hundred and twelve pound range, so he
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: gets you a little bit of that.
• 38:25
  Speaker 8: I feel like all three of those running backs are
• 38:27
  Speaker 8: kind of the same style, then they can kind of
• 38:31
  Speaker 8: do a little bit.
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: Barry's more. Barry would be, I guess, more of a
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: scat back shifty.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: I think for Cayden Durham, like he's obviously got track speed,
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: I think Cayden can be a physical runner. Like that
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: clip that that person sent us was asking about is
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: his counterpower, like he broke three tackles. It felt like
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: in that one clip. I think he could actually lean
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: more into that portion of his game.
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: I know it's hard, like when you know you've got,
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: you know this track speed, but I think he is
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: big enough to be able to do that. Dylan Jones
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: has earned some carries in the fall. Like again, if
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: Hunt saying it, coaches are saying it, defer the players
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: are saying it. He has made as big of an
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: impression on this coaching staff maybe as anybody, and probably
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: a little bit of a surprise considering again he was
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: a freshman, but you know, only three hundred yards on
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: the ground last year.
• 39:22
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I just you know, I read this and I
• 39:25
  Speaker 8: was as shocked as probably anybody is to hear that.
• 39:29
  Speaker 8: That's kind of the viewpoint that people had coming out
• 39:31
  Speaker 8: of spring that if we started on May first, I
• 39:34
  Speaker 8: think Dylan Jones would be the probably get the first
• 39:37
  Speaker 8: rapid running it out.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Now, a lot's gonna change. Don't like nothing needs to be.
• 39:41
  Speaker 8: Judged off of off of spring training. Like we have
• 39:44
  Speaker 8: talked about multiple times, spring training is just it's the
• 39:47
  Speaker 8: portion of a couple of weeks where you learn a lot.
• 39:49
  Speaker 8: But people are just fine for pole position going into
• 39:51
  Speaker 8: the going into the summer. So we know, and the
• 39:54
  Speaker 8: coaches probably know a lot more of what they have
• 39:56
  Speaker 8: in Harlan Berry and Caden Durham than they do Dylan Jones.
• 40:00
  Speaker 8: Probably why one of the reasons why he got a
• 40:02
  Speaker 8: lot of reps because they kind of know what they
• 40:03
  Speaker 8: got with these other guys because of all the reps
• 40:05
  Speaker 8: and that they had. I mean, it is a new staff,
• 40:08
  Speaker 8: though it is a new staff comp but they they
• 40:12
  Speaker 8: played against them, played against them, they're more familiarized. Well,
• 40:15
  Speaker 8: I would think, yeah, But I think as LSU fans,
• 40:19
  Speaker 8: you're in a really good spot at that. I mean,
• 40:21
  Speaker 8: that's got to be probably, if not the best, one
• 40:25
  Speaker 8: of the top position groups that you have going into
• 40:29
  Speaker 8: next year in the running back ground.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: Look, I have no problem being a running back by
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: committee either. I think if it makes sense. I don't
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: like forcing a running back by committee because you're like, hey,
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: like we need to play these three guys. But if
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: the three guys have the same skill set, it doesn't
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: make sense. You don't have to do it. But if
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: you have three guys that have something a little bit different,
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: then I think you absolutely you utilize that right, you use.
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: It to your advantage.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: And we could go back, and we've done this so
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: many times, but I do think it's important every time
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: we have this conversation to remind our listeners. Two thousand
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: and three, Sure, like by the end of it, JV
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: took off, but that group had Joe, I had Shyroun
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: carry right, it had a lot of different backs. Alie, Brusard,
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: Barrington Edwards even got some carries. Okay in O seven right,
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: I might have gotten the most carries, but Keeling and
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: Charles and Trendon and Richard Murphy, all those guys helped
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: us win a national championship. They were all out of
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: the backfield. We had two fullbacks. And it's good because
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: everybody also had their game too. Write no doubt were
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: the multiple everybody had a game in a moment in
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: it where they were the guy difference man Charles against
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: two lane in Kentucky that year, Like I still like
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: Charles Scott to me is maybe the most underrated running
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: back of all time at LSU. So I'm always gonna
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: wax poetic about what Charles did. But Keeling had Virginia
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: Tech murph in the national championship game to close it
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: out right, and Trenton certainly had his money so we
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: could go eleven.
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: They didn't win it, but they made it. They had
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: four or five running backs that played in eleven.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: Like clyde year in twenty nineteen was kind of the
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: outliers of having single back success on that team. He
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: had TDP, he had Emory, but that was client Clyde
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: played more snaps than any running back of the country
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: that year, so I know, at least in the power
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: for he did.
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: So.
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: The whole point is like in l shu's history, their
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: most successful seasons have come being a running back back committee.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: And it's and it's a it's a luxury.
• 42:23
  Speaker 8: It's a luxury to have that as a team when
• 42:24
  Speaker 8: you have that mini good running backs who could probably
• 42:29
  Speaker 8: be a top running back at the majority of other
• 42:33
  Speaker 8: universities they go to. So look, LS you, you were
• 42:36
  Speaker 8: in a good spot at the running back position. Like
• 42:38
  Speaker 8: I said, I know, you're gonna have some really strong
• 42:40
  Speaker 8: position groups, but you're gonna be hard pressed to find
• 42:43
  Speaker 8: another position group better than your running back.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Group this year.
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: Just waiting on the fullback.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Did I not say that? What did I not say?
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Fullbacks are really good too?
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: We don't have one, but you imagine what would be
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: like if we did.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Heh yeah, brother, All.
• 43:01
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• 43:03
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  Speaker 4: what do you think about this? No, they make the
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, First American Bank and Trust FABT dot com. Go
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  Speaker 2: check Matt.
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  Speaker 8: If you are looking like can you imagine trying to
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  Speaker 8: start a business or expand a business and trying to
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  Speaker 8: explain what you want to do here in South Louisiana.
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  Speaker 8: Trying to explain that to someone making a decision in
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  Speaker 8: New York City. Nah, it ain't gonna happen. Make sure
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  Speaker 8: you're dealing with a local bank that takes our community serious,
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  Speaker 8: takes you serious. First American Bank of Trust f ABT
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  Speaker 8: dot com.
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  Speaker 5: Usually I don't do this, but uh, I'm going ahead
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  Speaker 5: on break them off with the little previews of the remix.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I'm not trying to be boo, but hey, put
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  Speaker 1: it on the fielding juice the way you do, the
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  Speaker 1: things you do reminds me of my next to school.
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  Speaker 1: That's why i'm your grill trying to get your to hotel.
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  Speaker 1: You must be as the way you got me playing
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  Speaker 1: the field. So baby give me that.
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  Speaker 3: Let me give you that off the bench presented by hoodental.
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  Speaker 7: Ignition, hot and fresh out, attention and mama pulling that body.
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  Speaker 1: Got everything.
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  Speaker 6: Then you wish.
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  Speaker 5: Like the water. It's the week?
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  Speaker 10: Are we about.
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  Speaker 2: Cooking?
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  Speaker 5: Rum and drum?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't see all that stuff there. I can't
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  Speaker 4: say rum rumble. Still it's good man, stay cool, stay clean.
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  Speaker 2: Not even blocked out.
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  Speaker 5: Murder. Yeah, I can understand that one even more than
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  Speaker 5: behind that.
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  Speaker 2: A lot.
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  Speaker 4: That's like, I'm definitely that's like, I'm definitely anti murder.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, behind I'm definitely against it, but I'm not I'm
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  Speaker 8: against it, but it's not a word or rum.
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  Speaker 10: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: We got a comment in chat speaking of Joe as
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  Speaker 4: his son coming to l s U. He and Jojo
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: Lafel's sons are playing together in Houston. They both look
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  Speaker 4: real fast and real athletic. I can tell you that
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  Speaker 4: the real fast. My goodness, love their clips.
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  Speaker 2: You think Joe his son's got that six inch punch.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know that anybody outside of Bruce Lee has
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  Speaker 5: like Joe had it.
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  Speaker 8: I would like to see him take up n m
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  Speaker 8: A afterwards. Oh, I tell it. I told y'all.
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  Speaker 5: I get to campus, I'm like, wait, wait.
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  Speaker 4: Wait, wait, wait wait, I'm supposed to play the same
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  Speaker 4: position as that guy. It was Joe Joseph Man, thank
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  Speaker 4: the best chip blocker in the history of football. Don't
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  Speaker 4: have some ribs showing coming off a tackle. He was
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  Speaker 4: gonna take all of them.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it was fun to watch play tackle football
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  Speaker 2: that he was.
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  Speaker 8: That he was.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all play the same position, pretty much the same athlete.
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  Speaker 5: I've always said it.
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  Speaker 2: I always said it. The same in our uniform too,
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  Speaker 2: stand side by side, same guy.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 8: Basically Jake said you, oh Man, it's me Joseph.
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  Speaker 5: Our three OTV.
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  Speaker 1: Coming back off the bench.
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  Speaker 5: Joseph just go to KZ.
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  Speaker 5: Sometimes it's inside, sometimes it's outside.
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  Speaker 4: motorized screen, and now is the time right get him
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  Speaker 4: out there, have them order it, have them installed it
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  Speaker 4: for us, like I had no idea that it was
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  Speaker 4: going to shade our living room like and it's so easy,
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  Speaker 4: a button goes up, and it saves us on energy.
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