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Pirates pitching drama continues, Elly & Murakami IL’d, Wrobleski steals the show v. Philly · Foul Territory

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Hey, Happy Monday, Tod Father Monday, Kevin Pollar Monday, Hey
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: j and Kratz doing who knows what, but let's have
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: some fun. We'll recap the weekend and also do some
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: shout outs at the top here before we dive into
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: news and what we saw. Here's one team that admitted
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: league guys. We're not going to do a whole segment
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  Speaker 1: on today, but I just wanted to give them a
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: shout out so we don't miss them. You know, we
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: get a lot of I can't believe you did this
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: show without talking about this team. Well, there's thirty teams.
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: We're trying our best, but I just wanted to shout
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: one out, Todd Father. I feel like this applies to
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: some of the predictions that you make. You gotta give
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: it a little bit of time. The Mariners were off
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: to a slow start. They went into Game seven of
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: the Worlds of the Alcs last year, a deep run
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: against the Blue Jays, and then they were like, what
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: four or five games under for a while.
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: They've won six in a row. They're gonna be fine.
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: Those are some of the names where I'm like, pump
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: the brakes if you're in Seattle and you saw the
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: success last year, you're probably be like I expected this
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: team be fifteen over five hundred at the one third mark.
• 1:04
  Speaker 1: It's not always like that. But they're good.
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  Speaker 3: They're very good.
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  Speaker 4: It's just one of those teams where at the beginning
• 1:11
  Speaker 4: you're sitting there saying, like, oh boy, is.
• 1:14
  Speaker 3: This is this is not gonna happen again.
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  Speaker 4: Like, listen, they have the pitching, they have the team.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, are they gonna get five six runs of games?
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  Speaker 4: Maybe not, but they're gonna find a way to win
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  Speaker 4: those games eventually. Mister Rodriguez coming through. I mean the team. Listen,
• 1:31
  Speaker 4: they talk about the team striking out all the time.
• 1:33
  Speaker 4: This is a team that goes about their business the
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  Speaker 4: right way. They have the staff, they have players that
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  Speaker 4: could play the game. Is it the best game to
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  Speaker 4: watch all the time? In my opinion, No, But they're
• 1:43
  Speaker 4: out West, They're playing against some tough competition. The Astros
• 1:46
  Speaker 4: are starting to play a little better. But this is
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  Speaker 4: good for baseball to see the maners do what they do,
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  Speaker 4: and yeah, let's give them a little credit.
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  Speaker 3: They're gonna go on.
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  Speaker 4: A little run here and let them be the ebbs
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  Speaker 4: and flows of the year, which people need to really
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  Speaker 4: understand if you're true fan.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely.
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  Speaker 6: I mean I think it was only a matter of
• 2:04
  Speaker 6: time before this team got back to kind of the
• 2:06
  Speaker 6: team we saw a little bit last year. And obviously,
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  Speaker 6: as a person that covers the Toronto Blue Jays and
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  Speaker 6: a team that I follow, you know, they're still going
• 2:13
  Speaker 6: through their ebbs and.
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  Speaker 5: Flows a little bit too. But I think both of
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  Speaker 5: these teams kind of went to uncharted territory.
• 2:18
  Speaker 6: Last year and getting so deep into the playoffs. The
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  Speaker 6: hangovers real, the target on their back is real, and
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  Speaker 6: I think it just took them a little bit of
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  Speaker 6: time to understand that, you know, teams are not just
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  Speaker 6: going to come into Toronto and Seattle and just kind
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  Speaker 6: of roll over, like they're using that as a barometer
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  Speaker 6: to see how successful they are. And this is a
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  Speaker 6: question I'm gonna ask Bob later, but I kind of
• 2:37
  Speaker 6: want to ask you guys real quick, is at what
• 2:40
  Speaker 6: point of the season are we deepen up into the
• 2:42
  Speaker 6: season that we believe like a certain team that is
• 2:45
  Speaker 6: having success is sustainable. And then do we believe that
• 2:48
  Speaker 6: some of these bad teams, you know, we're teams that
• 2:50
  Speaker 6: are underperforming, Like do we have a big enough body
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  Speaker 6: of work to say that's just who they are yet.
• 2:57
  Speaker 2: I mean Todd.
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  Speaker 1: For me, it's case by case, and I think if
• 3:03
  Speaker 1: you're looking at a team trying to make a judgment
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  Speaker 1: and they're five games under, five games over, somewhere in
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  Speaker 1: that range or between right or a five hundred team,
• 3:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you can do much because we've
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  Speaker 1: seen so many instances in the past half decade where
• 3:17
  Speaker 1: a team's hanging around the five hundred range June, July,
• 3:21
  Speaker 1: even some getting close to August, and then all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden, they go on a run. Guys get healthy,
• 3:26
  Speaker 1: they get a streak going, and then that carries into
• 3:28
  Speaker 1: the postseason. For me, to answer KP's question, it's more
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  Speaker 1: like the Tigers being fifteen ish games under five hundred
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  Speaker 1: and going, Okay, that's going to be really tough to
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  Speaker 1: climb out of.
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  Speaker 2: This doesn't look like good ball.
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  Speaker 1: I know they're missing their big boy, but is this
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  Speaker 1: team capable of winning twelve in a row whatever it
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  Speaker 1: is to get themselves back into the mix. That's where
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  Speaker 1: I do the judgments on the teams that are way
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  Speaker 1: back in terms of the five hundred mark.
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  Speaker 3: What about you, I don't think you could say, any team.
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  Speaker 4: And this is my sole reason why, because I'm looking
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  Speaker 4: at the standings. The worst team, as you said, the
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  Speaker 4: Tigers are seven games out of the wildcard and we're
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  Speaker 4: not even halfway through. So I think that's the I
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  Speaker 4: don't say issue, but that's the understanding that, yeah, there's
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  Speaker 4: some teams that are doing bad. The Orioles, they don't
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  Speaker 4: look really good, but they're what one game out of
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  Speaker 4: the wild card. It's insane to think there's how many.
• 4:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, you can name five to eight teams right
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  Speaker 4: now that are playing underperforming. So but all those five
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  Speaker 4: to eight teams have an opportunity to make the playoffs.
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  Speaker 4: So that's where I just can't pinpoint one team. But understandably, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: the Angels six games.
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  Speaker 3: Out of the wildcard.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's opportunities for every single at least American League team,
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  Speaker 4: and as we dive in the National League, same thing.
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  Speaker 4: Besides Colorado, I mean, they're ten games out. But still
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  Speaker 4: I can't pinpoint one team. But you know, I look
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  Speaker 4: at the Orioles. I look at the Blue Jays truthfully,
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  Speaker 4: like they got to pick it up a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the Orioles, right, I think they just finished
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  Speaker 1: up a seven and three runs. It doesn't take much
• 5:01
  Speaker 1: to get yourself right back into the mix. Okay, let's
• 5:04
  Speaker 1: get to a couple powerhouses in the National League and
• 5:07
  Speaker 1: recap their weekend's charge out. All right, we're charging talking
• 5:13
  Speaker 1: Phillies and Dodgers and KP. The Dodgers won two out
• 5:17
  Speaker 1: of three against Philly. Fun series, a lot of star power,
• 5:22
  Speaker 1: as I usually say with series really in general. In
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: the regular season, do you learn about how these two
• 5:27
  Speaker 1: teams match up? No, you just see one team going
• 5:29
  Speaker 1: against another good team, and if anything, this could be
• 5:32
  Speaker 1: a scary stat that's on the screen. Corey Seideman on Twitter,
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  Speaker 1: posting the Phillies leave LA eight and seventeen against teams
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  Speaker 1: currently occupying playoff spots. Their next twelve games are against
• 5:41
  Speaker 1: teams occupying playoff spots. For me, KP, I'm not too
• 5:45
  Speaker 1: concerned about the eight and seventeen number. The team looked
• 5:47
  Speaker 1: like crap for the first few weeks of the season,
• 5:49
  Speaker 1: and that's why their manager got fired. And it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: you know it is the personnel just not living up
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  Speaker 1: to what they usually do in a short sample size.
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  Speaker 2: If anything.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's see what the next twelve look like and
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  Speaker 1: how they stack up against some good teams.
• 6:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you took the words exactly out of my mouth.
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  Speaker 6: I think we got to look like the season split
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  Speaker 6: into two. It was the pre Don Mannley and the
• 6:08
  Speaker 6: post Don Mannley. But I think these next twelve games
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  Speaker 6: is going to be kind of telling of the new
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  Speaker 6: kind of Phillies, the Phillies that we kind of expect
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  Speaker 6: every year. You know, over the last couple of years,
• 6:18
  Speaker 6: they have a lot of players underperforming, but they've actually
• 6:21
  Speaker 6: been playing pretty good baseball since Donnie Baseball took over.
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  Speaker 6: And I mean when you play a three game series,
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  Speaker 6: it's such a small sample size, but you know, the
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  Speaker 6: overreaction is as if the Phillies didn't even win a
• 6:32
  Speaker 6: game there.
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  Speaker 5: They did win one game.
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  Speaker 6: Going to LA is a tough place. The Dodgers are
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  Speaker 6: the back to back chances for a reason. But I
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  Speaker 6: do think these next twelve games is going to set
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  Speaker 6: us up to have a better understanding of the Phillies
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  Speaker 6: moving forward.
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  Speaker 5: To me, the Phillies are.
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  Speaker 6: Probably the scariest team if they get going.
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  Speaker 5: Because of that pitching, that starting pitching staff they have.
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  Speaker 6: Imagine rolling out, you know, just Christopher Sanchez and Zach
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  Speaker 6: Wheeler in a postseason scary series is terrifying for all hitters.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, listen, we talked about this Phillies team underperforming
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  Speaker 4: and then they dominate and then underperforming. Yeah, eight and
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  Speaker 4: seventeen against some really good teams. Let's talk about this
• 7:11
  Speaker 4: in another sixty games and see where they're at. I
• 7:13
  Speaker 4: feel like this team will come back. I know they
• 7:16
  Speaker 4: played the next twelve games against occupying playoff spots.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well guess what in those next twelve games, it
• 7:21
  Speaker 3: might be five other different teams.
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  Speaker 4: So not really worried about the Philly Zach Wheeler has
• 7:26
  Speaker 4: been absolutely phenomenal. Sanchez has been there the whole time,
• 7:29
  Speaker 4: had a couple of mishaps.
• 7:31
  Speaker 3: Kyle Swarver is a beast. These guys know what they're doing.
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  Speaker 4: It's more of a veteran team, one of the best
• 7:37
  Speaker 4: veteran teams you'll see out there, and I feel like
• 7:40
  Speaker 4: they're going to be just fine.
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  Speaker 1: Father for me. The story of the series was the
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: first game where Zach Wheeler was outmatched and Justin Robleski
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: continues to make a name for himself in a starting role.
• 8:56
  Speaker 1: You know Karrien a no no for a while, finishing
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: up with seven innings a running nine pun Chaud's Wheeler
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: gave up four solo homers, so it wasn't his best outing.
• 9:03
  Speaker 2: And Robleski is doing it right now.
• 9:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks He looks really good.
• 9:08
  Speaker 4: And you know the part about Wheeler, if I mean
• 9:10
  Speaker 4: solo home runs, Carlos Ordan was the best at that
• 9:13
  Speaker 4: last couple of years.
• 9:14
  Speaker 3: He giving up those solo shots.
• 9:16
  Speaker 4: But you only give up four runs, you got to
• 9:18
  Speaker 4: find a way to fight back at least get four.
• 9:20
  Speaker 3: And it's that kind of game. You gotta find a way.
• 9:22
  Speaker 4: But I guess one of those things where when the
• 9:25
  Speaker 4: Dodgers get out in front right now, where they're at
• 9:28
  Speaker 4: in the season, there's no stop in them. You know
• 9:31
  Speaker 4: they got the tools, you know they got the players.
• 9:33
  Speaker 4: Pitching staff has been really good, has been really good,
• 9:36
  Speaker 4: and Robleski has been another bright little spot that people.
• 9:40
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• 9:42
  Speaker 4: You're the sexiest name out there, but if you're on
• 9:44
  Speaker 4: the Dodgers, you better fall in line.
• 9:46
  Speaker 3: That train is moving and it's moving towards more wins.
• 9:48
  Speaker 4: And if you're not on that, they're gonna find somebody
• 9:51
  Speaker 4: else waiting in the wings.
• 9:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I want to just touch on that a
• 9:54
  Speaker 6: little bit too, because I know the CBA was a
• 9:56
  Speaker 6: big talk. But this is a thing that the Dodgers
• 9:58
  Speaker 6: don't get enough credit for too, is they're not drafting
• 10:01
  Speaker 6: at the beginning of the draft.
• 10:02
  Speaker 5: Every year. A lot of these.
• 10:03
  Speaker 6: Players that they draft them develop our guys that are
• 10:05
  Speaker 6: either drafted later in the first round or even later
• 10:08
  Speaker 6: than that in the draft. So you have to give credit. Yes,
• 10:10
  Speaker 6: do they have the ability to go out and sign
• 10:12
  Speaker 6: the best and biggest regent, Sure, but they also do
• 10:15
  Speaker 6: an unbelievable job of drafting and developing too.
• 10:19
  Speaker 8: What have you made up some of the plays that
• 10:21
  Speaker 8: Adrian Carson have made in the outfield?
• 10:24
  Speaker 9: They are great, man, they are great. They call each
• 10:27
  Speaker 9: other a psychopath and I'm like, yeah, you guys are.
• 10:31
  Speaker 9: I mean, it's just crazy. How hard are they going
• 10:34
  Speaker 9: into the wall or running around the field.
• 10:37
  Speaker 3: It's incredible. It's how much are you enjoying?
• 10:40
  Speaker 8: Just kind of being like a mentor to them.
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: I mean I don't try to be a mentor. I
• 10:46
  Speaker 3: tried to be one of them, you know.
• 10:47
  Speaker 9: I try to make them feel like they are part
• 10:50
  Speaker 9: of these They are the same as me. They is
• 10:52
  Speaker 9: that they have the same boys. They just you know,
• 10:55
  Speaker 9: some things that sometimes we got to help them, like,
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  Speaker 9: you know, to get through it. And it's the first
• 11:01
  Speaker 9: time for them being the big leagues. But at the
• 11:04
  Speaker 9: end of the day, I tried to be one of them.
• 11:06
  Speaker 9: I just tried to enjoy the moment and have a
• 11:08
  Speaker 9: great time with them.
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  Speaker 1: That's Wan Soto talking about psychopath rookie teammates in the outfields.
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: We have our resident outfield psychopath here today, a KP.
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you'd like to hear that.
• 11:19
  Speaker 3: I love to hear it.
• 11:19
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's a great way for some young players
• 11:22
  Speaker 6: to kind of make a name for themselves and just
• 11:24
  Speaker 6: go out there and play hard. I think people, for
• 11:26
  Speaker 6: I think people don't understand this that at the big
• 11:29
  Speaker 6: league level, when you are a defensive player, or when
• 11:32
  Speaker 6: you're playing defense that is really not supposed to slump,
• 11:34
  Speaker 6: Like you're expected to go out there and make plays.
• 11:37
  Speaker 6: Pitchers make a ton of money and you put a
• 11:39
  Speaker 6: defense out there that's supposed to.
• 11:40
  Speaker 5: Make the plays.
• 11:42
  Speaker 6: The best way for you to kind of go through
• 11:44
  Speaker 6: the ebbs and flows that every player goes through offensively
• 11:47
  Speaker 6: is to be a great defender.
• 11:48
  Speaker 5: For me in my career, being able to go out
• 11:51
  Speaker 5: and play good, good defense.
• 11:52
  Speaker 6: Great defense at times allowed me to struggle at the
• 11:55
  Speaker 6: play and then to continue to give me at bats.
• 11:57
  Speaker 6: You know, a lot of people put a lot of
• 11:58
  Speaker 6: stock in their offense when they come up, but I
• 12:00
  Speaker 6: always try to remind young guys go on, play good defense,
• 12:05
  Speaker 6: all right.
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: This Jeff Passing tweet laid out the numbers. If you're
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: voting for picture of the Month and you can only
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: pick one, no cop outs. Christopher Sanchez thirty nine innings,
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: twenty five hits, no runs, three walks, forty five punch outs.
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  Speaker 1: The Miz thirty eight and a third innings, fourteen hits,
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  Speaker 1: one run, six walks, fifty seven punch outs.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, good luck, KP. You want to go.
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  Speaker 6: First, Yeah, considering I still don't understand FIP, I'm gonna
• 12:32
  Speaker 6: go Christopher Sanchez. And he's pitched a couple more innings,
• 12:35
  Speaker 6: but he's on a historic run.
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  Speaker 5: He hasn't given up in a run and.
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  Speaker 6: God knows when, and I I just love that he's
• 12:43
  Speaker 6: just kind of a true pitcher, not to take away
• 12:44
  Speaker 6: from the Miz obviously incredible for our sport.
• 12:47
  Speaker 5: You know, a unicorn in his own right.
• 12:49
  Speaker 6: But Christopher Sanchez man like he his story of kind
• 12:53
  Speaker 6: of just being very average, and then you could kind
• 12:55
  Speaker 6: of see the potential and the starter he's turned into
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  Speaker 6: I think is incredible.
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  Speaker 3: Well, this is a tough one.
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  Speaker 4: I can agree with you, but I'm going to disagree
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  Speaker 4: with Miz has been absolutely fantastic. I go by the hits.
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  Speaker 4: There are only fourteen hits I saw Sanchez. I think
• 13:11
  Speaker 4: it was twenty five. Forget about the era. That's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 4: Strikeouts as well, I would go with him with more
• 13:17
  Speaker 4: strikeouts and less hits.
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  Speaker 3: In my opinion, you can't go wrong here.
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  Speaker 4: This is what you want to see in baseball as
• 13:26
  Speaker 4: a baseball fan, whether you're a Phillies fan or Brewers fan,
• 13:29
  Speaker 4: or none of the above.
• 13:31
  Speaker 3: It's absolutely fantastic. Keep that going.
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, two different profiles, right, this is just gonna overpower you.
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: Did you guys see the Jordan Alvarez matchup from the
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: weekend where he went three straight heaters and what was
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: the one of the pitches I think was what one
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: O three point something? Right, we're close to one O
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: four on three pitches in the ab all fastballs, just
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  Speaker 1: challenge a few different locations.
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  Speaker 2: It's beautiful.
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  Speaker 6: It was a beautiful thing, because that's, uh, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 6: one of the best hitters in baseball, and the fact
• 14:05
  Speaker 6: that he just didn't even try to fool him. He
• 14:08
  Speaker 6: just said, here's the fastball three straight times and it
• 14:11
  Speaker 6: didn't look like he had a really good shot at it.
• 14:13
  Speaker 6: So just imagine what the other hitters in the league
• 14:15
  Speaker 6: are feeling. If you're don Alvarez is not able to
• 14:18
  Speaker 6: square them up, what do guys like myself?
• 14:21
  Speaker 5: What kind of chance do I have?
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: There's a an interview from the Weekend Todd where someone's
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: asking what did you think of your month of May
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: and missus like it was pretty good, and then they
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: were like you had a two three in six starts,
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: and he's like, I mean that's decent.
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: Kind of humble bragground call that one exactly.
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  Speaker 2: I like it. Competence Oozing hot Corner.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: There will be a number of injuries. It's almost like
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: a mini hot corner slash injuries suck segment. But the
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: segment after the one, or the topic after this one
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: will be a little juicy with a player not able
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: to pitch right now. But before that Murakami Grade two
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: hamstring strain trying to.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: Leg out a double play. You like to see that.
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  Speaker 2: Of course he's hustling.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: He's always hustling to Todd Father, I mean, that's like
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: the tenth tenth thing you'd bring up when you're talking
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: about him. But he busted as quick as he can
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: down the line, and he pulls up lame with the
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: hammy injury and he's gonna miss probably a month.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: And a half.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: That sucks on a number of levels. But for White
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: Sox fans, this is your best player.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, listen, I've had a Grade one before and
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: it took a good month twenty five days to heal
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: up to feel like normal, and then you got to
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: rehab and go.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: Through all of that.
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: This could be this could be close to two months.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: You know, these these ham strings and they last forever.
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: You might feel well, but you'll always know that it's
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: their hamstrings are the worst. KP's probably been through a
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: bunch of them too. It's just, uh, they're nagging injuries.
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  Speaker 4: And for what he was doing, I had Cratzy on
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: the rope there. I was saying forty plus home runs
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  Speaker 4: and now I don't know what's going to happen. Man,
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: what a what a solid guy? I mean, we don't
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: know what's gonna happen for the White Sox. So even
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: though they won a couple of games without him, this
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: is a big one.
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  Speaker 3: It's a big blow.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel for the White Sox. I feel for him, Scott.
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  Speaker 6: I remember in the offseason we were sitting here having
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: this debate about him, and we had people coming on,
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: you know, people that have seen him play in Japan,
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: and we were reading all the numbers about the fact
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: that he couldn't hit the fastball.
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: In fact, he's got.
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: Twenty home runs at this point of the season. Is
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: a huge loss for the White Sox. It's devastating for him.
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: He probably was going to go on and win the
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: Rookie of the Year in the American League. And honestly,
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: it's a big blow for baseball because I think when
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: the White Sox are good, it's great for baseball, and
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: losing your best player is never easy. I know that
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: they've been able to win five straight games and he's
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: been on the he's been out a couple of those games,
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: but what.
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: An incredible start.
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: Twenty homers, you know, almost a four hundred on base percentage,
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: nine thirty eight ops. I know the strikeout rates a
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: little bit high, but no one cares if you're striking
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: out and you're hitting the ball out of the ballpark.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: You know, sometimes we go too far with that narrative,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: right KP. Yeah, if you're if you're a fifteen homer bat,
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: it would be nice if you don't strike out thirty
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: five percent of the time.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: If you're a forty you're okay.
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: I mean, he's also pretty much has a two to
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: one walk ratio too, so like he's striking out, but
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: he's also walking a ton too.
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: To me a strikeout rate.
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: Like you said, if you're not hitting the ball out
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: of the ballpark and you're not walking, I'm gonna need
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: you to kind of play your odds, put the ball
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: in play more and hope you get a hit.
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: But the fact that.
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: He's not super reliant on only getting a hit to
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: get on base. I mean, he has over forty walks
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: and two hundred backs. It's incredible, you know, I think,
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: what is that a I don't know, twenty that's like
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: a ten percent walk rate.
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: Which is way above league average, and he has twenty
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: home runs.
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: Like, you know, you got to take the strikeouts as
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: part of his game. You know, there's certain guys in
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: this game, and Todd maybe you were one of those guys.
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: When you have the ability to hit the ball out
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: of the ballpark, you got to pick and choose your spots,
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: like I don't need more COMI with two strikes and
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: no one on base, just trying to put the ball
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: in play, Like, continue to take your a swing. There
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: are certain times in the game that calls for you
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: to like, Hey, I need you to advance this runner.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: I need you to put the ball in play. But
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: if he strikes out with no one on base and
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: two outs, we live with it. Take your a swing,
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: I agree.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: Agree. Don't change just because of the situation. Be who
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: you are.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: You know there might be a time where you know
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: you might have a situation to win the game. You know,
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: oh I might try and I might try and go
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: absolutely no, no, be who you are because you don't want nobody.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I say this all the time. You can. There's no
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: other Tony Gwinn in this world.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: Rest in peace. There's no other Tony Gwinn. He could
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: do whatever he wanted with the baseball. So be who
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: you are. Don't try and change too much.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: And hopefully get well soon. It's a huge blow for
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: the White Sox. It really changes the way their lineup looks.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: And if you watch enough of this team and the
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: impact that he was making, like the ripple effect for
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: the rest of the lineup.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: This was the guy that were circling. He was changing game.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: The swings were clutched too, right, I mean, this sometimes
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: can't be weighed, and I know there's win probability added,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: but I mean he had a lot of clutch moments
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: already for the team with like late time, I.
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: Would say too.
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: I mean, I'm kind of just reading through the notes
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: here and obviously I saw and I don't know him personally.
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: I don't really follow the White Sox minor league system.
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: But the kid they brought up, Jake and Guzalez have
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: nineteen homers in Charlotte this year, and I know it's
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: not I know it's a very hitter friendly ballpark, but
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: you know, sometimes with injuries it kind of forces a
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: teen's hand and the fact that they're successful. Maybe they're
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: bringing up a guy maybe before they wanted to bring
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: him up. Imagine Jacob Gonzalez goes out and has a
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: nice month and a half two months and then you
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: bring more coming back.
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: It just adds to the depth of what the White
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: Sox are.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Trying to do.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Yep, good stuff.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, Next up we'll get to the Pirates an injury
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: for them. But before that, a restricted list item that
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: carries over from a story that we covered on Friday.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Carmen Macginski was not ready to pitch this weekend. Ben
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Charrington jam of the Pirates said this.
• 20:09
  Speaker 10: Karmis and Permanent informed us this morning he was not
• 20:13
  Speaker 10: ready to today, and so we made the decision to
• 20:17
  Speaker 10: place another string the list for today and recall Camp Sanderson.
• 20:22
  Speaker 10: So that's the headline. I'd like to work backward from that.
• 20:24
  Speaker 10: Share a little bit about context. We go back to
• 20:28
  Speaker 10: Wednesday when the conversation, the first conversation happened between Donnie
• 20:33
  Speaker 10: and Karman about the decision about the quotation. Going into
• 20:39
  Speaker 10: that conversation, we you know, decision was clear to us,
• 20:43
  Speaker 10: and we also understood that it would likely be a
• 20:46
  Speaker 10: challenging conversation.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: We understood how.
• 20:51
  Speaker 10: Astronomy the Carmen desires to start, how important that is
• 20:54
  Speaker 10: to him, and we believe he can do that, would
• 20:57
  Speaker 10: believe that he can be a starting pitcher and can
• 21:00
  Speaker 10: be a starting pitcher.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: In the future.
• 21:02
  Speaker 10: Also, well, we made that decision, had the conversation with.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Karly view it was going to be challenging.
• 21:09
  Speaker 10: And in the day since then, we've I think we've
• 21:12
  Speaker 10: made We've had very consistent communication with Carmen leading right
• 21:17
  Speaker 10: up till this morning, and I believe we've made a
• 21:20
  Speaker 10: lot of progress within him around what his role was
• 21:24
  Speaker 10: going to be and how we can work with him
• 21:26
  Speaker 10: in that role to help the team win. Confident that
• 21:30
  Speaker 10: we're going to see and pitch for this team very soon.
• 21:36
  Speaker 10: Buddy wasn't ready to do that today, and I think
• 21:39
  Speaker 10: going into the weekend we understood and communicated.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: With Carmen that.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: That's some work this weekend over.
• 21:46
  Speaker 10: I need him to be ready or we're gonna have
• 21:49
  Speaker 10: to replace on the team and in fairness to the team,
• 21:52
  Speaker 10: So that's what happened to him.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: All right, I need a little clarity. You said you
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: covered this story on Friday. I saw it.
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: I didn't get going into the weeds on it, but
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: he was a storting pitcher that was taken out of
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: the rotation, put into the bullpen, and then they called
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: upon him to pitch out the bullpen and he wasn't ready.
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: That's accurate.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: That's pretty much online.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I'll fill in a couple more blanks, but yeah, I
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: mean he had been pitching well, right, and he's been
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: vocal about wanting to be a starter in the past.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I know that doesn't really mean much. So there's a
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: lot of relievers that they want to be starters.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: They get bumped to the bullpen. So Jared Jones comes back.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: He's a young flamethrower that's going to be in the
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: rotation for them. Bubba Chandler has not pitched well so
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: far this year, but he's been one of their bigger
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: prospects and has big swing and miss stuff. His walk
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: grade has been crazy. But for Carmen here, if you're
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: a front office and you're looking at peripherals, first of all,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: hard contact, low strikeout numbers, hit hard, third time through,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: has had experience, this is the key as a swingman.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: So they're adding all of this up and they're like, hey,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: the more natural fit for us is to put this.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Guy in the bullpen and not Bubba.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Even though if we had to be weighed right now
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: on who's been a better starter, it's definitely Majinski.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: So that's the context.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Then on Friday KP he said that he would have
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: to kind of talk to his inner circle and paraphrasing
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: like family agent was included in the quotes there. I
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: was actually one that was like, that's probably no big deal,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Pirates fans, you should just be excited that you have
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: such an embarrassment of riches that you're sending a three
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: and Alfbra.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Got to the bullpen.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Well, I was at least partially wrong here because now
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: he's actually disrupting the flow of the team by not
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: being ready to pitch. Lastly, it sounds like he will
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: be ready starting for Tuesday's game, but like he just
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: took almost you know, a week off to recalibrate while
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: he's clearly disgruntled with his role.
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: I don't know if you can see the discuss in
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: my face listening to this story, but I don't know
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: where we've gone wrong in terms of the way that
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: players think that they have the right to kind of
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: determine what they want to do within a team.
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: You should just be thankful that you're up. I know
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: you were pitching well.
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: You know there was times in my career I was
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: hitting well and yeah, I wanted to be the leadoff hitter,
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: but that's out of my control. You just kind of
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: do what the organization feels like it's best for not
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: only maybe you, but also the greater good of the team.
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: So good for them for putting them on the restricted list.
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: You know, you ask a guy to go to the
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: bullpen and then he tells you he needs to talk
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: to his inner circle.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: He's not prepared to pitch, doesn't want to pitch out
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: of the bullpen.
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: It's the only thing you can really do at the
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: end of the day. Players care about one thing, and
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: it's playing time, and it's opportunity. You know, money's gonna
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: come and go. But when you take that away from
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: a guy, it's a wake up Cole.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean not to dwell on it too much.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: You would want him to be a team player all
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: first and foremost, but you also got to understand your standards.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: If you believe in something, okay, but there's a limit
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: on some of these things too as well. It's a
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: business played for the pirates. Understand some of the moves
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: they make are not they're bewildering, they're they're confusing.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: At times, and yeah, you see it with the Yankees.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: They didn't call up Volpi because guess what, they didn't
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: think he was better than Kabaya or they made the
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: right decision.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Did they make the rights in here? I don't know.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: I haven't watched him all that much, but from seeing
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: everything else and hearing from everybody else, he was the
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: better picture. And I guess he's disgruntled and pissed off.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: But again, this can only hurt a team too as well,
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: because this is the issue. Every time you come and
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: you see him, it's like, oh no, what is he
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: gonna do. Hopefully this is all taken care of and
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: they can move forward.
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: The thing too.
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: The thing too is young players have to understand, like you,
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: it's like you said, it's okay to be upset, it's
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: okay to voice your opinion that you believe you're a
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: starting pitcher, but an air in judgment like this to
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: like say, I need to talk to my inner circle.
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: I'm not pitching on the bullpen, needing to take some
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: time off to go on the restriculous. This is something
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: that follows you throughout your career. When you're a young
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: pitcher and you do believe that you're a starting pitcher,
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: and you be asked to pitch in the bullpen, you
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: just do do your job. At the end of six
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: or at some point when the trade deadline comes down, quietly,
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: he could probably ask for a trade, but this is
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: something that's going to prevent other teams from potentially giving
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: him an opportunity in the future.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see what he looks like.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, the best thing you can do now is
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: you go to the pen, you absolutely shove, put together
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: five scoreless appearances, and then someone get hurt yet bump
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: back to the rotation, and then teams can say, Okay,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: there's this little blit. We're good, We're back because you
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: know my thing. KP also was like, yeah, I want
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: the guy to be competitive. I want him to want
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: to start. But then ultimately I was like, but he'll
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: go to the bullpen and do his thing.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: And then I was like, oh, I guess.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: He's not going to the bullpen at least for a
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: few days. Here they were having a tough time convincing him.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Some other items including for the Pirates, Connor Griffin hits
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: the injured list and the injury for him is a
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: right elbow strain. Well, that's not great, and you know
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: he's been off to a pretty nice start. He's not
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: you know, blowing the doors open yet offensively and mixed reviews.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: On defense, I think he'll be fine sometimes, you know,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: defensive run saved out's above average. Those kind of staf
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: go against each other, like he's good on drs, he's
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: bad on outs above average. Usually I'm like, okay, he's
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: also a rooki. You don't even know how to grade
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: him yet it's fine, base runnings exceptional. So overall this
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: is a loss.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Ryan A. Hearn does come back, that helps a lot.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: He had been a top maybe their top bat, and
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: he's been awesome for them. So kp thoughts on what
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: goes down here, and I'll give you one more layer
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: to consider. He doesn't say this often, so that's why
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I'm going to throw this out there. Ken Rosenthal on
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: fair territory earlier today was like, injuries, they're bad, but he's.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: A fresh twenty years old.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: If he was going to get a drop of time
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: off for an injury, that shouldn't hamper him long term.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: It's okay, because you don't want him to weigh down
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: in September when the team might be in a Wildcard race,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: and then you're like, ah, damn, are starting shortstops, kind
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: of running out of gas.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: He's never played even close to this many games.
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: No, I agree with him, and from everything I read,
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: it's going to be a short ten day il stint.
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: And I think he makes a good point. Obviously, he's
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: super young. He's twenty years old. I mean, the high
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: school season isn't that long. He barely played a long
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: season in the minor leagues. And even he was in
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: Toronto last week, and I think they gave him a
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: day off on Sunday because he struggled on Friday and Saturday.
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: So yes, he probably has a little bit of a
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: flare up in his elbow, but this little mental reset,
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: this little physical reset, I'm sure even with the elbow injury,
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: he could probably still get in the cage and he
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: can kind of work on his swing.
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: But I do agree with him.
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: You know, it's not something that you necessarily want to do,
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: but when an injury pops up, I do see his
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: point in giving him, you know, the ten days off
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: mentally reset, physically reset, and allow him to stay fresh
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: throughout the rest of the season.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: AJ gave me a line on Blue chew.
• 28:41
  Speaker 8: Well, do you need help with your love life, Scott, perhaps,
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: do you want a turbo charger love life?
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Yes, well, then you need blue.
• 28:47
  Speaker 8: Choo Goal because it has four active ingredients that help
• 28:49
  Speaker 8: you not only two turbo charge, but you can supercharge
• 28:53
  Speaker 8: it if you take one of these.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: And AJ's talking about that new erasle boosting formula that
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: combines passion and performance into one tablet that dissolves under
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• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Now let's get to Luis Severino, former teammate of yours,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: I think is placing him on the shelf with a
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: right shoulder strain. So that's not good. So he left
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: his start the other day after an inning, goes back,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: warms up.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: No good, not good, No, not good at all.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: And you know he's he's usually mister reliable you'll go
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: after and pitched a long time too. He's just starting
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: to come and come into his own per se with
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: the athletics.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, injuries suck. I mean, we know the headline.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: It's hard.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: As you get older, you have to maintain your body.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: And even when you maintain it and do all things right,
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: you could still be that guy that gets injured. You know,
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: injuries are not afraid or they're not precuous to anybody.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: They will go after you and find you. So poor
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: guy right shoulder strain. You know he's he was thrown fine.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: You know, he's a guy that you could rely on
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: and hopefully this is just a couple of week little
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: stint and he'll be back fresh, ready to go.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was starting better this year.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: He had a lot of trouble getting adjusted to the
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: minor league facilities that the A's are using during this
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: stretch here, but was in the low fours on the season,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: yet the home road splits were insane for him last
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: year I remember exactly, but I want to say it
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: was like three versus six and a half on the
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: home road split, So so much better, much closer to
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: what you were seeing a couple of years ago with
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: the Mets at a three nine to one mark. And
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: I know he had some injury issues with the Yankees
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: back in the day, But you're right, Todd Father. I mean,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: last year, twenty nine starts. Year before that, thirty one
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: starts like he had been. He had been racking up
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: innings for this team.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: So KP.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: For me, it's like the A's are one of those
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: teams where you got to have most things at the
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: margins go your way to be a wildcard club when
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: you're matching up against the Mariners. And you know, I
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: put the A's more in the category maybe of the Astros,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: maybe even still a tick behind them, even though the
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Astros have had a million injuries.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: So your thoughts on the A's chances.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's definitely a huge blow.
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: I mean, they're not a team that has a luxury
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: of a ton of pitching depth, right and he was
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: their kind of big ticket item going into that first
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: season in Sacramento. Yeah, it's a big blow because I
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: know they're right around five hundred. I know that entire
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: al West has kind of just been right around five hundred.
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: So him being out for you know, at least two
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: or three starts is definitely a big blow for them.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: And it looks like we're getting some breaking news here
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: as we keep running through some injuries. Francis Romeiro reporting
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: on Twitter that the Reds are planning to bring up
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: one of their top prospects, Edwin Arroyo, in the coming hours.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: He's twenty two.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Years old, Puerto Rican native, a top three prospect on
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: most publications, and in conjunction, it'll be Ellie de la
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Cruz hitting the injured list. So Todd father, he was
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: having the best start of his career. The hamstring, he
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: said he felt like he avoided significant damage because he
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: felt it right away and then kind of stopped and
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: pulled up and then it was taken out and got
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: testing today.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: But he'll take some time off.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Remember last year he was playing banged up and they
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: kind of revealed that later in the year. He played
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I think all one sixty two, and so again you
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: don't want Ellie to miss time, but you don't want
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Ellie playing at fifty percent the rest of the year either.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: No, And like we said, these things linger, and you
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: have to maintain them each and every day as much
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: as the paint of and a butt to come in
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: two hours before you're really supposed to be in with
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: a trainer, loosening things up, getting a hot tub, stem ice,
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: move it around, get on the bike, whatever it is,
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: put some you know, movement into there, get it rubbed out.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: The hamstring that is, you know, like making sure everything
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: is put together and everything's in the right motion. And
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: for him, I think they need this guy. He's been fantastic.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: He's been just on the ball on everything. And you know,
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: let's see what this young man's got. This is a
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: royal kid man. I can't wait to see him play.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Hey, let's hit data dish for a couple of stat
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: segments while the TV crowd is in a little break,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: and then we'll come back with Pete Fairbanks.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Let's go to Jacob de Graam. He's pitching a night.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Opponents have a chase percentage of thirty four percent against
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: the Groam going back to last year's second highest AM
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: unqualified starters, KP.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: I know you just played with them recently.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I feel like we still don't talk about de gram
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: and and how he's able to still create the swing
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: and miss. You know, like there's tons of you know,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: it's schemes, it's miss, it's schooble, it's all that. Man,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: I'm good with the ground pitch in game one of
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: a playoff series.
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: For me, I think we take him for granted a
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: little bit.
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: And I know he's had some injury history recently that's
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: kind of derailed what we would have probably considered, you know,
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: one of the greatest right handed pictures of my generation
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: and maybe our generation. But you know, it's part of
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: it's part of the job description. You know, it's very
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: rare that a starting pitcher, you know, goes without injury,
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: just especially when you're a guy like Jacob de Grohm,
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: who throws so darn hard. You know all of his pitches.
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: But ask any one of these young pitchers, man, Jacob
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: de grom was probably their role model, their idle in
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: terms of stuff and you know, pure mechanics and stuff,
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: and I just think it gets taken for granted a
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: little bit his greatness and the fact that he's been
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: able to come back from TJ number two and kind
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: of hit the ground running. He's just one of those
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: guys that just still kind of falls under the radar.
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: Is he the cy young candidate that he once previously was?
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: But you're talking about a guy that I would want
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: starting Game one of any postseason series. There's probably only
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: a handful of starters in the major leagues that I
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: would take over him right now.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah, yeah.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: And just one thing.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: Length When he gets on that mound, the length it
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: seems like from sixty points six inches away.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: Or inchest Jesus feet away.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: His length makes it that much more closer, and he
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: gets some run, he gets some tilt, maybe in a
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: little more extra m font to that ball and rise
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: And people say, but there's no way a ball can rise.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: I've seen it before. It's ridiculous.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: A ball cannot rise. Yes, it can. I've seen it.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: I've seen Maybe I'm saying things, but I've seen him rise.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: That is the effect.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: One more, I'll mix in Jose Soriano, who I feel
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: like we talked about a ton at the start of
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: the year, and I know he's proven a little bit
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: more human, but still slug percentage of two twenty two
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: and behind in the count this season is best among
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: qualified starts. See that's an impressive stat to me too.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: You fall behind and you're still preventing damage.
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean we talked about this too a little
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: bit a couple of times ago when I was on
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: when he was going on his run of pretty much
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: being unhittable. But you know when I saw him a
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: couple of years ago when I was his teammate, you
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: saw all the potential. But you got to give credit
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: to Mike Maddox and the adjustments he's made.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Todd Father, what do you have for me? On the
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Yankee series from the weekend, they saved all their runs
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: in that one game for one inning and then they
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: didn't even They were like, you know, we're good, save
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: the hits for tomorrow.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: After that, that was crazy, And it wasn't like it
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: was Homer after Homer. It was just here, hit there,
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: air boom bank thirteen runs. I mean, that's when you're like,
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: all right, well you got your thirteen runs in that
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: ending pretty much game over. Let's just and then they
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: almost came back and made the game close up. Thirteen
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: eight had thirteen runs, and nah, I guess that's why
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: there's no ten run rule. But I would love to
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: see them put the ten run rule after after six
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: innings in my opinion, But that's just me. That'll never happen.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: Maybe it's part of the collective bargain and greement coming up.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: But yeah, Now the Yankees, they did well. They look
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: great on the road. There, did fantastic on the road.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: And you know, you thought for a second there there
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden like, ah, here they go again.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: But they just do what they do best, find ways
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: to win games, and uh, will Warren pitch really well?
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: And away they go.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one and a half games clear of the lead
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: on the Al East.
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: I was at a I was at a family family's
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: house for a kid's birthday party, and I just happened
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: to turn the TV on. It was the third inning,
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: it was three to one, and just kind of casually
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: watching the game, and it like Judge comes up, so
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: you watch and then he hits this blooper and then
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: you're kind of like talking and you're seeing the numbers
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: and the scoreboard go up and there's still no outs,
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: and then Judge comes up the hit again, and then
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: you're like, they just score thirteen runs. It was crazy.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Hey, one more shoutout like I did at the top
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: of the show. How about Ronald Dacunya Junior's home run
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Binge Todd Father Four in a row, four games in
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: a row with at least a homer.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: He's got five total during that span.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: He didn't wait long yesterday first pitch, so he looks
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: like he's on quite the heater.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: He looks like Ronald Lacuna Junior. Again he does.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: He doesn't doutch want. I'm trying to making sure I'm
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: getting this straight. They played in.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Cincinnati, my favorite ballpark of all time too.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying that's why he hit the home runs,
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: but we understand it's a nice park to hit in.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: I've played there for a good amount of years to
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: understand that. But if ever you want to get hot hot,
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: get in, get in a stadium like that and just
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: start flipping balls over. I mean, yeah, his swing path
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: is beautiful. He's got great hands in and out of
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: the zone. He comes up real slow and then whack.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: Beautiful thing to see. We want this guy to be healthy.
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: We want this guy to perform. We want to be
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: talking about him because he's good for baseball. And I
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: say it all the time. These guys are good for
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: baseball when they're doing well, when production is high, everything
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: else is really fun. So for him to get going again,
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, the Braves team has been fantastic all year.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Good for him and it's a good sight to see.
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I got a chance to play with a lot
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: of great players in my career, but I will sit
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: here and tell you he's the most talented baseball player
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: I've ever seen. There's nothing on a baseball field he
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: can't do. It's just keeping him engaged every single day, defensively, offensively,
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: on the basis. But when you talk about no ceiling
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: on what he can do on a baseball field, it's
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: the most talented player I've ever seen. He can throw
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: you out from deep brightfield at third base. He can
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: go out and steal seventy bags. He can go on
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: streaks like this where he's hitting five homers in four
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: games like I've never seen anything like it.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, incredible, And obviously you got him at the right
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: time in the postseason.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: You know he can this team get to a title.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: He was not part of that mix.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: He was on the roster, of course, but in twenty
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: one when they won, remember he was out. So this
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: playoff run, they'll have Acunya to try and make things happen,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: you know, have him involved in a playoff run where
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: they can win a World Series title. The Braves look
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: like one of the best teams in baseball. They were
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: the first team to forty wins. They got there on Saturday,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: and that home run on that first pitch was from
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Lodolo too. I know he hasn't had a great year
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: when he's been on the mat so far this year,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: but that's some of the nastier stuff that you're gonna
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: get from the left side, and uh Acunya handled it
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: pretty nicely, very impressing.
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: I mean, he's so dynamically enough the game like he
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: makes you kind of think when you were a pitcher
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: and you're in your pitchers meeting, like do I throw
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: the first pitch fastball? And then obviously there's this idea
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: if you don't throw the first pitch fastball, you're almost.
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: Kind of conceding right there. But he's a game changer.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Hey, did you guys see this from the weekend the
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: little ABS error, Dallas Braden said, I believe this is
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: the first ABS operator error. How in the world can
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: we be asked to accept a clear error? We're gonna
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: start challenging challenges. How do we just take a take?
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: How are we justifying taking a challenge away from a
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: team when it's clear there was an error on the
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: ABS operator bad form? And you know a lot of
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: people were like, oh, it's just one time that it happened,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: and that is true. I mean, it's not like we're
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: seeing this very frequently. But also, you know, Dallas was
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: just calling out. I know it's only one time, but still,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: you know, he's like, what if this happened in a
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: playoff game or one of those big moments. Let me
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: see the other tweet that he said that I was
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: pulling up before.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: But your thoughts here, guys. While I find that.
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: Boy, it alls me to wonder how the ABS system works,
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: Like is there an actual operator where like if the
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: ball misses the rectangular shrike zone they're inserting ball or strike,
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: because if that's the air, then it's unacceptable. You would
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: think that technology would be like if the ball is
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: inside the box or it is touching the box, then
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: it would just come up ball or strike. But I
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: don't really know what the operator means.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: I think it malfunctioned from what I know, And so
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: then they just kind of did like a call stands.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: Thing but cannot cannot bottom right.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, and.
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: Even if it does happen, even if it does happen
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: like you said, it's only happened once, it's still new technology,
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: like they're still getting.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: Kind of used to the thing.
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: But like if it's visually showing up on the scoreboard
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: in the stadium, like there has to be umpire discretion, Like, Okay,
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: they said it was a strike, but the ABS system
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: is clearly telling me it's not in the zone. Like
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: he should have the ability as a human to like
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: be like, whoa, I know they're buzzing me and telling
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: me it's a strike, but really it's a ball. So
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: I think that maybe something that has to be implemented
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: into the ABS is there is visually watching the boar too,
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: and if it comes up wrong, then he goes, wait,
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: hold on a second, he's got his little microphone and
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: be like there was an air in the system as
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: we all see in the stadium.
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: It didn't touch the box. It's a ball.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: So Dallas in the next week said, at the very
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: least they should have had their challenge returned with the
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: ability to see there was a mistake made. Imagine a
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: postseason game with this happens, team losing because of a
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: glitch or miscommunication, even with evidence to support a cracked call.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: He said, because it's made no big deal.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Every pitch in every AB and you know, every game,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: all that, right, yeah, spot, yep, yeah.
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: And I think even beside the ABS system, I think
• 43:37
  Speaker 6: that's the reason the ABS system was implemented is because
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: the importance of every pitch in a game.
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: You know, before we.
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: Had these rules and regulations to you know, challenge the
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: authority of an umpire.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: That's the reason we brought this in is because you know,
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: they're humans. They're going to make mistakes. But as Todd.
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: Knows, when you're hitting, you know, whether it's your first
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: at bat, your third at bat, the scores a lopsided
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: one where or another, all these bats matter to us.
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: So if there was an air and you feel like
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: it's wrong, we now have the ability to say, hey,
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: I don't agree with your call.
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: We're going to challenge it. So it just speaks to
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: the importance of every call in a Major League.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Baseball game, and just to provide the full context here,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: so I could bring it up because I mean, you're
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: watching a lot of games over the weekend. I didn't
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: remember the exact situation. It was soderstrump on a pitch
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: ron wether. Adam Beck ruled a distress and replay. It
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: was clearly outside of the zone by significant margins about
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: point eight inches low, but the system appeared to experience
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: a delay, so his strike call was upheld. So the
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: usual graphics showing the location never showed up on the
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: video board even after delay. So it's possible that it
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: glitched out there in the minor league ballpark, which may
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: have meant the review process then defaults to the umpire's
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: call of the original strike one. So again then now
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: this is me speaking. If that's the case, then you say, hey,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: technical glitch, We're gonna revert back. They keep their challenge.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: We'll try to fix this in the meantime. In the meantime,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: you know, because Marc post game, yeah, Todd Marconte said
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  Speaker 1: the explanation on the field as the umps were told
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: from the com upstairs that the call was confirmed. Obviously
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: they didn't have access, so they only have access to
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: the information told through their earpiece. So that I mean
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: you can't say they should actually say like, no, call
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: is not that's not call confirmed, that's technology broken.
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  Speaker 2: Uh just can't challenge that one.
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  Speaker 4: No, exactly, give it back to home there. You tried,
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  Speaker 4: we screwed up here. It is right back there.
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, now that you mentioned it. I remember seeing
• 45:43
  Speaker 6: this because I was watching the game where they scored
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: thirteen runs and I think it was the next inning,
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: but the sound was off on the TV, and I
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: remember there being a delay, and then when you brought
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: this up, I was wondering if this was the same play.
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  Speaker 6: But it seems like a very easy fix. Like the
• 45:59
  Speaker 6: umpire as a microphone. Now he could just say, hey,
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: there's a there's a glitch in the system. Call stands
• 46:05
  Speaker 6: at home plate. No challenge awarded or denied or nothing like.
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  Speaker 5: They remain their challenge.
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  Speaker 2: YEP, I'm with you. Maybe we'll make a segment out
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  Speaker 2: of it tomorrow.
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