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Talking Nicotero · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: I'm Joe Alves, and you're listening to Movie Mountain.
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  Speaker 2: It's showtime.
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  Speaker 3: This episode is rated M for Misty. Yes, that's right,
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  Speaker 3: this is a Misty episode, so it will be laced
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  Speaker 3: with profanity even more than usual. If you're not comfortable
• 0:54
  Speaker 3: with this level of profanity, perhaps this isn't the episode
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  Speaker 3: for you. But we have many other episodes to choose
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  Speaker 3: from that do not feature Misty, and will probably be
• 1:02
  Speaker 3: far less offensive. Okay, maybe. That having been said, on
• 1:06
  Speaker 3: with the show.
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  Speaker 4: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power.
• 1:37
  Speaker 4: to provide more cooling in the containment chambers.
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  Speaker 3: To your stationers, we have a rebound.
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  Speaker 5: One day when I'm rich and famous, I'll have better
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  Speaker 5: things to do than answer people's stupid questions all day long.
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  Speaker 6: Gregory, tell us about your childhood!
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  Speaker 7: Were you always so smart and handsome?
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  Speaker 6: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian. I'm Misty.
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  Speaker 6: And we're coming to you live via digital recording from Wonderfest.
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  Speaker 7: Woo!
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  Speaker 6: Our umpteenth year at Wonderfest.
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  Speaker 7: Vajillions of years.
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  Speaker 6: Holding down the fort like we do.
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  Speaker 8: Fuckin' A.
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  Speaker 9: It's awesome here as usual. We've returned to the family.
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  Speaker 9: I think we're like the bastard stepchildren of the family.
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  Speaker 6: They deal with us. They put up with us. But
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  Speaker 6: sometimes I'm like, there's the cool kids in the family
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  Speaker 6: over there. And then they look over and.
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  Speaker 7: They shunt us over in the corner.
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  Speaker 6: They came back again.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not complaining, though.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not either.
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  Speaker 1: I love Warner Fest.
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  Speaker 7: I like it better over here where there's nobody. I
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  Speaker 7: feel more comfortable over here. If I had to actually
• 2:41
  Speaker 7: deal with people and like interact. Brian left the table
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  Speaker 7: for a while and my phone immediately came out. I'm like,
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  Speaker 7: who can I call? Who can I talk to? What
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  Speaker 7: can I watch on my phone?
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  Speaker 9: That is not the proper etiquette when dealing with people.
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  Speaker 7: I did talk to people at some point. I expressed
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  Speaker 7: bloody fingertips. And that was it.
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  Speaker 6: Only in the circumstances that not really inappropriate. You were
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  Speaker 6: talking about felting.
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  Speaker 7: Needle felting.
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  Speaker 6: Special felting.
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  Speaker 7: Needle felting.
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  Speaker 6: Extra felting.
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  Speaker 7: Needle felting. Extra stabby pointy make your fingers bleed felting.
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  Speaker 9: Because I brought with us to Wonderfest our, let's see,
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  Speaker 9: according to the sign I made over here, the Movie
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  Speaker 9: Meltdown Tales from the Cryptids Handmade Action Figures.
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  Speaker 6: Which have been rather popular, I must say.
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  Speaker 9: So people were snapping them up. They were from the
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  Speaker 9: Tales from the Cryptids art show that we had. And
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  Speaker 9: I was like, well, let's bring them out here. People
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  Speaker 9: got to love them.
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  Speaker 6: So they've been pretty excited about it.
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  Speaker 7: I know, I said one girl, apparently she had attempted
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  Speaker 7: needle felting at some point in her life too, and
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  Speaker 7: she's like, yeah, the total fair prices, those are not
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  Speaker 7: fun to make. They can be rather stress-relieving when you
• 3:47
  Speaker 7: sit there and feel like stabbing something repeatedly over and
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  Speaker 7: over and over, which I often do. But then you
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  Speaker 7: end up with blood on everything.
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  Speaker 6: Which I often do.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 9: I was also told I was a genius for this
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  Speaker 9: rigging up version of the banner.
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  Speaker 6: That I've done.
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  Speaker 7: I was like, oh, don't encourage him.
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  Speaker 6: No, no. It's official now. I have my status. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: I don't have to learn anything else, right?
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  Speaker 7: You've reached your pinnacle in life.
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  Speaker 1: Good, I'm a genius.
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  Speaker 7: I'm done. You're apexed. You're there.
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  Speaker 6: Done.
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  Speaker 9: But otherwise, we're just kind of getting rolling here for
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  Speaker 9: the many, many other episodes that will soon be headed
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  Speaker 9: your way, I'm sure. So, in our usual geek activity fashion, Misty,
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  Speaker 9: what have you been watching lately?
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  Speaker 7: Oh my gosh. Well, it's only been like a week
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  Speaker 7: since we recorded anything.
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  Speaker 6: But you forgot them all last time.
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  Speaker 7: I did. I have watched several movies and some of
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  Speaker 7: them I liked and some of them I'm still a
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  Speaker 7: bit confused by and a little bit grossed out by.
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  Speaker 7: I watched Honeymoon. Have you seen anything about Honeymoon?
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  Speaker 1: I think.
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  Speaker 6: You mentioned that there's a gross thing that happens.
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  Speaker 7: There are several gross things that happen.
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  Speaker 6: Before that, I do not think I'd heard anything about Honeymoon.
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  Speaker 7: It's a recently married couple, and they go on their honeymoon.
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  Speaker 7: It's kind of out in the middle of nowhere, and
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  Speaker 7: there's a cabin. Then things start happening, and then it
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  Speaker 7: was really boring up until a point. Until she broke
• 5:14
  Speaker 7: out the cooking fork, whatever it's called.
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  Speaker 1: What's it called?
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  Speaker 10: Skewer?
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  Speaker 4: Skewer?
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  Speaker 7: That's like a fork with a prong on the end.
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  Speaker 7: A fork? A barbecue fork.
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  Speaker 6: I'm going to call it a fork.
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  Speaker 7: I'm like, honey, that is not where you put a
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  Speaker 7: barbecue fork. Let me tell you that right now.
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  Speaker 6: Well, it depends on what you're up to.
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  Speaker 7: Well, apparently there's an alien. I don't know if I'm
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  Speaker 7: going to ruin it. There are aliens apparently involved.
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  Speaker 6: Potential spoiler alert.
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  Speaker 7: There's potentially aliens. I'm still not sure what the fuck
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  Speaker 7: happened in this movie. You know, it's weird, and then
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  Speaker 7: there's things coming out of places that just stop. The
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  Speaker 7: movie just needed to stop. Like I said, it was
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  Speaker 7: so boring, and then you're just like, okay, stop. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: there's a button on your remote that does that. I know,
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  Speaker 7: but then I was so invested in it. I'm like,
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  Speaker 7: I've already watched this much. If I just stop now,
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  Speaker 7: I'm just a complete quitter. And I'm usually okay with
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  Speaker 7: that in life, but the remote was halfway across the couch.
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  Speaker 9: I'm with you at that, though. I mean, like, usually
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  Speaker 9: if I start a movie... Not counting when I fall
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  Speaker 9: asleep on it. I will finish it because I don't.
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  Speaker 7: Like to bail. Have you ever made it through Cabin Fever?
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  Speaker 7: Not Cabin Fever. Wrong turn? Not.
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  Speaker 6: Totally.
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  Speaker 9: I'm waiting until we get Douche Coup on and then
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  Speaker 9: we can watch it together or something.
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  Speaker 6: She's so cute.
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  Speaker 7: Then I watched In Fear. Have you seen In Fear?
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  Speaker 6: I know the title. I don't think I've seen it.
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  Speaker 6: How recent is this?
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  Speaker 7: Well, in the past couple years.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think I've seen it.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know. All I know is I watched it
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  Speaker 7: and it's a big... I'm like, why am I watching this?
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  Speaker 7: It's kind of slow. Again, and it has, the ending
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  Speaker 7: was kind of okay, but it had that one guy
• 6:42
  Speaker 7: from The Fades. Have you seen The Fades? It's another
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  Speaker 7: BBC show.
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  Speaker 9: Again, I remember you telling me about it. I have
• 6:48
  Speaker 9: to base everything around Misty stories.
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  Speaker 7: Exactly. Well, it's about this, they've recently met, I guess,
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  Speaker 7: and they're going to go on this road trip to
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  Speaker 7: a concert festival maybe or something. It's been a couple
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  Speaker 7: months since I watched this. It's been a couple months
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  Speaker 7: since I've done the podcast regularly, so I'm trying to backtrack.
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  Speaker 7: I don't remember what the hell I watched. Anyways, they
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  Speaker 7: go on this road trip to go somewhere, and they
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  Speaker 7: end up getting lost. They're trying to find this hotel.
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  Speaker 7: And they end up in this woods, and it's very maze-like,
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  Speaker 7: and they can't get their way out. And somebody starts
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  Speaker 7: fucking with their shit.
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  Speaker 6: Don't you hate when that happens?
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  Speaker 7: There is a whole bunch of shitfuckery going on in there.
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  Speaker 7: And then there's the end.
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  Speaker 6: The end.
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  Speaker 7: It was okay. I liked it. It wasn't fantastic.
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  Speaker 6: I stole one of your other stories the other day.
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  Speaker 6: Which one? Someone was telling about... possibly just going to
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  Speaker 6: have to.
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  Speaker 9: They were going on a road trip, but they didn't
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  Speaker 9: know for sure where they were going to stay, so
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  Speaker 9: they might just end up staying at some sort of
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  Speaker 9: roadside motel.
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  Speaker 6: So then I had to go in here. Wasn't the
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  Speaker 6: Texas the guy with the machete?
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  Speaker 7: No, that was in Memphis.
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  Speaker 1: Memphis?
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  Speaker 7: That was me, Mom, and Jesse. We were right across
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  Speaker 7: from Graceland.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, that part doesn't surprise me anymore.
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  Speaker 7: We were in Memphis, and we were walking out of
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  Speaker 7: the hotel, and there was this guy out there. I
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  Speaker 7: don't even remember what he was doing. It's been years,
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  Speaker 7: but there was some machete action in it, and I
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  Speaker 7: was just like, we're gonna die.
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  Speaker 6: I thought it was sharpening machetes.
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  Speaker 7: I don't, either way, we're gonna die. This guy sharpened
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  Speaker 7: his machete outside of our hotel room, right next to
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  Speaker 7: the ukulele-shaped pool. I'm like, oh god, we're gonna die,
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  Speaker 7: and I'm gonna die next to a ukulele-shaped pool. I'm
• 8:17
  Speaker 7: sure it's supposed to be a guitar, but this is
• 8:18
  Speaker 7: like the Days Inn down the street from Graceland, so
• 8:21
  Speaker 7: it's not like the fanciness, so it's like, more like
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  Speaker 7: a ukulele.
• 8:25
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, it's so cliche at that point, like,
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  Speaker 9: A guy sharpening a machete outside of your cheesy motel
• 8:32
  Speaker 9: window seems like a scene out of Cabin in the Woods.
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  Speaker 6: Like, it's so on the nose, it's probably fake, right?
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  Speaker 6: I mean, that's kind of how I feel.
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  Speaker 7: I'm sure there's some other explanation for it. I'm sure
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  Speaker 7: there's some Tucker and Dale. He's doing something good over there.
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  Speaker 7: He's going to go save kids from a fire, and
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  Speaker 7: he needs to sharpen a machete to do so.
• 8:50
  Speaker 6: But I don't know.
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  Speaker 7: I watched Housebound.
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  Speaker 6: I've seen that. It's on the streamings, I believe.
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  Speaker 7: So you have seen that?
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  Speaker 6: No, I've seen it listed in our usual scan, scan. Hmm,
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  Speaker 6: maybe I'll watch that scan, scan. Nah, not right now.
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  Speaker 7: It was an odd one.
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  Speaker 11: Alright.
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  Speaker 7: That's all I got for that one. It's an odd one.
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  Speaker 1: Was it.
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  Speaker 6: I won't even go so far as good. Are you
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  Speaker 6: okay with the fact that you watched it?
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  Speaker 7: I'm okay with the fact that I watched it. I
• 9:19
  Speaker 7: don't feel like I'm pissed off. I don't want to
• 9:21
  Speaker 7: punch the movie in the face for it having existed.
• 9:23
  Speaker 6: That is a standard level in your review system.
• 9:27
  Speaker 7: Well, because the basic thing is a girl, she's kind
• 9:30
  Speaker 7: of a delinquent, but she's like older, not like older,
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  Speaker 7: but like an adult. Her punishment is to be sent
• 9:36
  Speaker 7: back home to live with her parents. That's why she's
• 9:38
  Speaker 7: got house arrest.
• 9:39
  Speaker 6: Sounds like a sitcom.
• 9:41
  Speaker 7: Well, anyways, her mom's pretty sure the house is haunted.
• 9:46
  Speaker 7: So these things are happening all wonky, and then you
• 9:48
  Speaker 7: find out, holy shit, what's really going on. And you're like, oh, okay.
• 9:52
  Speaker 10: Didn't see that.
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  Speaker 7: One, I guess. Not bad. I liked it. I would
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  Speaker 7: i would give it a thumb and a half up
• 9:59
  Speaker 7: not even like a half a thumb yeah a nub
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  Speaker 7: like a tragic marine time accident thumb.
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  Speaker 9: A tragic needle felting accident that left you with a
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  Speaker 9: bloody nub.
• 10:11
  Speaker 7: No shit dude just hardcore but uh I'm sure I
• 10:17
  Speaker 7: watched other things. Since we recorded last, I've been watching
• 10:20
  Speaker 7: more Top Gear.
• 10:21
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 10:22
  Speaker 6: And I can't help it.
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  Speaker 7: I'm like addicted to this show. I never would have
• 10:24
  Speaker 7: saw that coming.
• 10:25
  Speaker 6: You have a problem. I do.
• 10:26
  Speaker 7: And it's a problem is that I have the biggest
• 10:29
  Speaker 7: crush on the guys on the show.
• 10:31
  Speaker 6: And he's British.
• 10:32
  Speaker 7: He's very British.
• 10:33
  Speaker 6: But he's adorably British. Long time Misty fans will know
• 10:35
  Speaker 6: it's a weird time in the world today.
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 10:38
  Speaker 7: There have been such evolutions. But he's adorably British. And
• 10:41
  Speaker 7: he's like, He's the small one, not like the big
• 10:44
  Speaker 7: tall one or the weird one or the really jackass-y one.
• 10:47
  Speaker 7: He's the smaller one. Richard Hammond. I am so smitten
• 10:50
  Speaker 7: with him.
• 10:50
  Speaker 6: It's ridiculous.
• 10:51
  Speaker 7: But it's good because it works out for me and Boyfriend.
• 10:53
  Speaker 7: Boyfriend likes cars and watching all that stuff. And I'll
• 10:56
  Speaker 7: just sit and watch Richard Hammond for hours. I don't
• 10:58
  Speaker 7: even care.
• 10:59
  Speaker 9: You found your couple activity now.
• 11:01
  Speaker 7: I know, right? But I'm not even sure that it's
• 11:03
  Speaker 7: so much that I like him, but that he reminds
• 11:05
  Speaker 7: me of another actor that I had a crush on.
• 11:07
  Speaker 7: Because he seemed like he could be the dad of C.J.
• 11:11
  Speaker 7: Thomason who was on... Harper's Island, because I fucking love
• 11:16
  Speaker 7: Harper's Island, even though I'm pretty sure I'm the only
• 11:18
  Speaker 7: person who probably watched Harper's Island.
• 11:21
  Speaker 6: The tangled web of Misty Brain.
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  Speaker 7: I showed you a picture. Does he not look like
• 11:26
  Speaker 7: he could be the father of.
• 11:27
  Speaker 9: He might possibly be related.
• 11:30
  Speaker 7: I had to look it up just to make sure.
• 11:32
  Speaker 7: But he's not. But I could watch that show forever. Anyways,
• 11:35
  Speaker 7: Harper's Island. Which I've watched two or three times. I
• 11:39
  Speaker 7: gave that two thumbs up, too. But, Top Gear. That's
• 11:42
  Speaker 7: my show now. That's my jam.
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  Speaker 9: So one of the few things I came across, I
• 11:47
  Speaker 9: won't even say watch because I don't actively watch movies
• 11:51
  Speaker 9: on regular television. But this came on while I was
• 11:54
  Speaker 9: doing something else. I was probably in the middle of
• 11:56
  Speaker 9: editing another episode. And it came on and I just
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  Speaker 9: didn't change the channel. And then I ended up kind
• 12:02
  Speaker 9: of watching it. I don't know if I've seen it
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  Speaker 9: since the initial run when probably you and I watched it.
• 12:08
  Speaker 9: I still know what you did last summer.
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  Speaker 7: Ooh, I haven't.
• 12:13
  Speaker 6: Now, do you remember much about that one?
• 12:15
  Speaker 7: I do not, but it's weird because maybe two weeks ago,
• 12:18
  Speaker 7: I watched I Know What You Did Last Summer. I
• 12:21
  Speaker 7: totally forgot about that.
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  Speaker 9: I feel like I've seen that one once or twice since,
• 12:24
  Speaker 9: but still, I do not think I've seen since I.
• 12:27
  Speaker 6: Watched it, that first one.
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  Speaker 7: I will always know what.
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  Speaker 1: You did last summer.
• 12:30
  Speaker 6: I'm going to always remember what happened that last time
• 12:32
  Speaker 6: I saw you last summer.
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  Speaker 7: I don't remember the second one at all. I know
• 12:35
  Speaker 7: that it didn't have brandy in that one.
• 12:37
  Speaker 9: Brandy's in the second, yes. But there's someone else, and
• 12:41
  Speaker 9: that was really going to be my point. That was
• 12:42
  Speaker 9: the only thing I kind of took from it, because
• 12:45
  Speaker 9: I watched it... Okay, wait, there's two points, which then
• 12:48
  Speaker 9: become three points. Number one, in the middle of it,
• 12:51
  Speaker 9: as a.
• 12:52
  Speaker 6: I would say not.
• 12:54
  Speaker 9: Normally I would say unrecognizable, but he's always recognizable. Do
• 12:57
  Speaker 9: you remember Jack Black being in it?
• 13:00
  Speaker 7: I do not recall that.
• 13:01
  Speaker 6: Because at that point, nobody knew who Jack Black was.
• 13:03
  Speaker 6: But if you go back and look through.
• 13:04
  Speaker 9: His listing, he's in like like he did so many
• 13:08
  Speaker 9: things over the years and i guess only people who
• 13:10
  Speaker 9: watched airborne really remembered him from anything that early on
• 13:14
  Speaker 9: but he's a like dread wearing he's the dude that
• 13:19
  Speaker 9: tries to sell him weed basically which i suppose shouldn't
• 13:23
  Speaker 9: be a.
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  Speaker 6: Surprise to your jack black fans.
• 13:25
  Speaker 9: Out there but that was sort of the role he
• 13:27
  Speaker 9: was playing he was the white guy with dreads trying
• 13:30
  Speaker 9: to deal weed to the people coming.
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  Speaker 7: To the island yeah i thankfully have no recollection of
• 13:34
  Speaker 7: that whatsoever I don't remember any of that movie.
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  Speaker 6: It's very silly.
• 13:39
  Speaker 7: They go to an island, don't they?
• 13:41
  Speaker 6: But here's the other thing I was going to say.
• 13:43
  Speaker 6: The other point. Literally. So we know who the star
• 13:49
  Speaker 6: of that first movie is, right?
• 13:50
  Speaker 7: Jennifer Love You, It's Boobs.
• 13:51
  Speaker 9: Well, they obviously learned their lesson because I think even
• 13:55
  Speaker 9: more so.
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  Speaker 6: Like, I feel like at least that first one, it's
• 13:58
  Speaker 6: only like the I'm right here, you know, kind of scene.
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  Speaker 8: What are you waiting for? Come and get me.
• 14:02
  Speaker 7: I don't remember how it goes.
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  Speaker 8: But.
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  Speaker 6: This one, like, midway in, they're on an island.
• 14:08
  Speaker 7: She what?
• 14:09
  Speaker 9: Well, no, they're, like, she gets locked. You might remember.
• 14:12
  Speaker 9: At one point, she gets locked into, like, the tanning
• 14:14
  Speaker 9: booth thing.
• 14:15
  Speaker 6: Like, he, like, zip ties her into the tanning booth.
• 14:17
  Speaker 7: I don't remember this.
• 14:17
  Speaker 9: Which I don't know if that would kill you. Like,
• 14:19
  Speaker 9: she starts freaking out. And they almost immediately bust her out.
• 14:22
  Speaker 9: I'm like, I don't think that would have killed you yet. Like,
• 14:24
  Speaker 9: hours maybe.
• 14:25
  Speaker 7: No, according to Final Destination movies. Oh, Lord.
• 14:27
  Speaker 6: It fries you in Final Destination.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: But.
• 14:30
  Speaker 7: And she busts out of that. Is there a slushie involved?
• 14:33
  Speaker 7: Like a big gulp?
• 14:34
  Speaker 6: Most things involve a slushie, right?
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  Speaker 9: As they bust her out, though, she really never puts
• 14:39
  Speaker 9: a shirt on after that.
• 14:41
  Speaker 6: So it's just her bikini top.
• 14:43
  Speaker 7: This is the highlight of her career.
• 14:45
  Speaker 9: Not really complaining. I'm just making an observation. And I
• 14:48
  Speaker 9: made a lot of them as that movie continued on.
• 14:51
  Speaker 9: She kind of puts like a shirt over it, but
• 14:53
  Speaker 9: she never bothers to button it.
• 14:55
  Speaker 6: The whole rest of the movie.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay.
• 14:57
  Speaker 7: More important things to worry about.
• 14:58
  Speaker 9: I know you're running away from that dude about to
• 15:00
  Speaker 9: kill you, but you're trying to not get a hook
• 15:03
  Speaker 9: in you, but just for a second.
• 15:05
  Speaker 6: When you pause, you can cover those up. Nah, I
• 15:08
  Speaker 6: didn't have a problem with the fact that she didn't.
• 15:09
  Speaker 9: I'm just saying, as most girls go, that you'd probably
• 15:12
  Speaker 9: just go ahead and immediately button your shirt when you
• 15:15
  Speaker 9: got to a stopping point of not getting killed.
• 15:18
  Speaker 6: That does not happen in this movie.
• 15:20
  Speaker 7: Do you remember, did you watch the third one?
• 15:22
  Speaker 6: I still don't know. You told me it crosses into
• 15:24
  Speaker 6: these Fantasyland.
• 15:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah, where it becomes more of a, he's not really real.
• 15:29
  Speaker 7: He's kind of like a ghost specter thing or whatever.
• 15:32
  Speaker 7: That one was fucking stupid.
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: It was like an episode of Scooby-Doo.
• 15:36
  Speaker 7: I kept waiting for it. I would have got away
• 15:38
  Speaker 7: with it too if it wasn't for you rascally kids.
• 15:40
  Speaker 6: They are kind of the Scooby gang. I mean, they've
• 15:41
  Speaker 6: got Fred right there.
• 15:42
  Speaker 9: In the middle of this one, he comes running in
• 15:44
  Speaker 9: and he buys a gun.
• 15:45
  Speaker 7: Well, Daphne died in the first one.
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they had Fred and Daphne.
• 15:50
  Speaker 7: What the hell?
• 15:51
  Speaker 6: This really is the Scooby gang.
• 15:53
  Speaker 9: So, yeah, that was my take on it. Number one,
• 15:55
  Speaker 9: I had no recollection that Jack Black was in it.
• 15:58
  Speaker 9: And we know who the star of the movie is.
• 16:00
  Speaker 6: And it ain't Brandy.
• 16:02
  Speaker 7: Moesha.
• 16:03
  Speaker 6: Moesha, Moesha, Moesha.
• 16:04
  Speaker 7: Good times. I want to go see if I can
• 16:08
  Speaker 7: bust into Greg Nicotaro's room and see if Top Gear
• 16:11
  Speaker 7: is on.
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's probably not how most of these fan interactions go.
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: If they're trying to bust into the celebrity's room.
• 16:17
  Speaker 7: Will you let me into your room and let me
• 16:18
  Speaker 7: watch Top.
• 16:19
  Speaker 11: Gear, please?
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: It's probably not to watch Top Gear. Once again, you're
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: very special.
• 16:23
  Speaker 7: I'm okay with that. Because his room is right across
• 16:26
  Speaker 7: from where our table is. If I had brought boyfriend's
• 16:30
  Speaker 7: lockpicking kit, I probably could have broke in there in
• 16:32
  Speaker 7: five to six hours.
• 16:34
  Speaker 9: We can just ask him when he comes over here,
• 16:36
  Speaker 9: and he might just let you go in the room.
• 16:38
  Speaker 9: He's got stuff to do, so while he's doing his talk,
• 16:41
  Speaker 9: you can go in there and watch Top Keep.
• 16:43
  Speaker 7: Dude, I don't want to go through your zombie shit.
• 16:45
  Speaker 7: I just want to sit and watch Richard Hammond. There's
• 16:47
  Speaker 7: nothing wrong with that. Leave me alone. We watched the
• 16:52
  Speaker 7: Burma episode this weekend. He wore those little jean cut-off shorts.
• 16:56
  Speaker 7: It was so sexy. I'm not even going to lie.
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: Jorts have never been so hot.
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: You're very special.
• 17:01
  Speaker 7: I know. Jorts and a wife beater.
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: Very special.
• 17:05
  Speaker 7: A dirty wife beater, too. It was all gross. That
• 17:09
  Speaker 7: guy's wearing Crocs and socks.
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: That's the most horrifying thing we've seen. Sarah Karloff. Previous
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: guest on Movie Meltdown, Sarah Karloff, just wandered by.
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: Dude is talking a little special.
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: If you talk to him, he will never go.
• 17:26
  Speaker 7: What if I don't make eye contact?
• 17:29
  Speaker 9: So it was right here in this very building at
• 17:32
  Speaker 9: this very convention years ago that special character over there
• 17:36
  Speaker 9: who was nerding out just a minute ago was shut
• 17:40
  Speaker 9: down by Joanna Cassidy.
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: What did she say?
• 17:42
  Speaker 9: She basically told him, like again, we've been in many
• 17:45
  Speaker 9: a situation with geek type peoples. I'm sure you all
• 17:49
  Speaker 9: out there have had the same situation where there's somebody
• 17:51
  Speaker 9: that's like a level or two above where your normal
• 17:55
  Speaker 9: geek level is and where your comfort zone with you
• 17:57
  Speaker 9: know interacting with people is i have zero comfort zone
• 17:59
  Speaker 9: interacting with people and this guy is about 14 levels
• 18:03
  Speaker 9: above that but i mean.
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: He's he's kind of special so it's okay i mean
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: you want to you want to go along.
• 18:08
  Speaker 9: With it but there's there gets a point where like
• 18:12
  Speaker 9: it goes too far and like we're in the middle
• 18:14
  Speaker 9: of doing our interview and like he like he would
• 18:17
  Speaker 9: not stop he was like two feet away and would
• 18:19
  Speaker 9: not stop talking and kept talking really loud. And at
• 18:23
  Speaker 9: one point she's like, excuse me. He gets up and
• 18:25
  Speaker 9: goes over and like, has a talk with me. And
• 18:28
  Speaker 9: I'm like, oh, you're awesome. I was like, you may
• 18:32
  Speaker 9: be my favorite person I've interviewed.
• 18:34
  Speaker 7: Did she make him cry?
• 18:36
  Speaker 8: Almost.
• 18:36
  Speaker 9: I don't think he fully did, but like, she just
• 18:38
  Speaker 9: shut him down. She's like, hey, I don't even know
• 18:41
  Speaker 9: if I could hear what she said. It's probably a
• 18:42
  Speaker 9: little scarier because it was quiet because it was just like,
• 18:46
  Speaker 9: and then he stopped. And I'm like, oh, I don't
• 18:49
  Speaker 9: know what she just said. I'm like, you do not
• 18:52
  Speaker 9: mess with Joanna Kasem. So, message for all of you.
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: I made Boyfriend watch it. Yes, it's awesome.
• 18:58
  Speaker 7: Who framed Roger Rabbit?
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: Yes, that's also awesome. She's in many awesome movies. Those
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: two are pretty amazing.
• 19:04
  Speaker 7: I love that movie.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: I don't even.
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: That movie has held up better than just about any
• 19:08
  Speaker 7: movie from that time frame. Because that movie is still
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: amazing by today's standards.
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: As far as just animation?
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: It's the way it fits together.
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: It's pretty impressive.
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: I mean, movies today, I'm like, that looks like shit.
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: That movie... When did that come out? 87?
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: 87?
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: That movie is fucking amazing. I could watch it today
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: and be like, this movie is amazing. How did they
• 19:29
  Speaker 7: do this? It's fucking magic.
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: It is pretty impressive.
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: I mean, I've seen movies that are made more recently
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: where they try to blend in. I'm like, this is just, no,
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: just stop it.
• 19:38
  Speaker 9: It doesn't look as good most of the time. So
• 19:41
  Speaker 9: I don't know what Touchstone did that was so magical.
• 19:44
  Speaker 9: but it's pretty amazing.
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: It's a classic. Probably one of the top ten most
• 19:49
  Speaker 7: perfect movies. That shoe-dipping scene is still traumatizing.
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't like to think about that one.
• 19:55
  Speaker 7: Because he was in pain.
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't like to think about that one.
• 20:01
  Speaker 9: It's in my never-ending story file of movie scenes that
• 20:04
  Speaker 9: traumatize me and I do not need to return to.
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: Swamps of sadness.
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: It's not cool, and I don't like to think about it.
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: The Gmork. Oh, the Gmork's so fucking terrifying.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: I love him.
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: He's my favorite part of the whole movie. And it's
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: an awesome movie, but he's my favorite part.
• 20:21
  Speaker 9: So, I think we should go convince that Greg Nicotero
• 20:24
  Speaker 9: character to talk to us right now.
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: Good luck with that.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: You're not going to help? You're just going to wait
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: until I get talking to him and then go watch
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: Top Gear. I know what you're up to.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: I totally would.
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: All part of your devious plan.
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: I could get it on my... I'll probably watch it
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: on my phone or I'll just sit here and look
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: up miscellaneous pictures because I have some saved.
• 20:44
  Speaker 9: You look up miscellaneous pictures from your Top Gear dude
• 20:46
  Speaker 9: and we'll go talk to Greg Nicotero.
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: Any dreamy?
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: Greg Nicotero, yes.
• 20:58
  Speaker 13: The cover is blown Familiar and strange You quoted a
• 21:10
  Speaker 13: film Only.
• 21:13
  Speaker 8: Just rearranged.
• 21:16
  Speaker 14: You drank the champagne You opened the doors With slighter hands.
• 21:26
  Speaker 8: But I was never yours. I see it through the magic.
• 21:32
  Speaker 8: And the views getting fewer.
• 21:34
  Speaker 15: Smile realistic through the smoke and the mirrors.
• 21:38
  Speaker 8: My eyes look for my brand new chance.
• 21:40
  Speaker 16: Never gonna fall for your special effects.
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: It's magic. And the views getting fewer. Smile realistic through
• 21:49
  Speaker 8: the smoke and the mirrors.
• 21:51
  Speaker 14: My eyes look for my brand new chance. Never gonna
• 21:55
  Speaker 14: fall Special effects. Special effects.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Drive away your worries and cares at this drive-in theater
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: where you will see the finest motion pictures of all
• 22:17
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• 22:18
  Speaker 4: Drama.
• 22:20
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• 22:26
  Speaker 2: of some of the truly fine pictures we've scheduled in
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: the near future.
• 22:33
  Speaker 11: George Romero's sensational new film, Zombies, brings you face to
• 22:38
  Speaker 11: face with the dawn of the dead.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: They are multiplying too rapidly. We've got to survive. Somebody's
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: got to survive.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Zombies.
• 22:49
  Speaker 11: Certificate X. In the West End now and all over
• 22:52
  Speaker 11: London from Sunday.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: All right, so we're here with Greg and Jotaro.
• 23:29
  Speaker 9: I guess I usually start early. I think I know
• 23:32
  Speaker 9: what your main movie that scarred you for life was.
• 23:35
  Speaker 9: Was there something earlier, I guess, before... the shark crept
• 23:39
  Speaker 9: into your life?
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was actually. There was a movie called Horrors
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: of the Wax Museum. And it was like, I think
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: it was a Samuel Arkhoff movie, I want to say.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: And I went to the theater to see it and
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: it was basically a remake of House of Wax. It
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: was like the rip-off of House of Wax. And there
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: was one scene where there was a guy in this haunted,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: in this wax museum and Jack the Ripper turned and
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: looked at it and started approaching him and it scared
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: the piss out of me. So much so that my
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: standard when I was a kid was I would take
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: a book off my shelf and just read it over
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: and over again until I could fall asleep because I
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: would scare myself so much I couldn't sleep.
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: You're distracting your brain to go to sleep.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes. Tricking my brain to, yeah. And it worked
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: for a time.
• 24:30
  Speaker 9: It's pretty advanced for a child. Psychology kicking in already.
• 24:35
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 24:35
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: Well, then I guess how old were you when you
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: saw Jaws?
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I saw Jaws the second day it was in the theaters.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: My parents were big, big movie buffs, huge movie buffs.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: So I remember seeing Planet of the Apes in the theater.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: I saw From Russia with Love in the theater. My parents, like,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: any time it was a movie, they're like, come on,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: we're taking the kids. That's awesome. And if I remember,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: it came out June 20th, 1975, and I think my
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: parents went opening night to, to see it. And then
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: the next night they took us.
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: This is going to scar millions of children.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I think we should take ours. I was 13. Um,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: and the two of the funniest things that I'll never
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: forget was I closed my eyes when they find Chrissy's
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: remains on the beach.
• 25:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: And it took me probably 11 viewings till I actually
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: had the nerve to look at it.
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: Is that all theater?
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Yes. Wow. Yes. And, uh, Because I read the book.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: And in the book, they describe what it looks like.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: So I built this vision in my head of what
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: it looks like. So I was terrified. And then two
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: other things. I missed Ben Gardner's head popping out of
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: the boat. The big scare. At that one second, I
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: happened to turn away from the screen for two seconds.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I don't even remember why. And then I remember seeing
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: everybody's heads in the movie theater just rock back. And
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: I was like, what happened? What happened? I missed it.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: And then, of course, at the end when Quentin was
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: getting eaten, my mom tried to cover my eyes. So,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, at that point, everything else had gone.
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: It's a little late, Mom.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: And she was trying to cover my eyes so that
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I couldn't see it. But I think in that summer...
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: I think I probably saw it 15 times just in
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: the first month or so.
• 26:29
  Speaker 9: And that was just as fandom? Or were you already
• 26:32
  Speaker 9: building in your head, like, this is cool. Somebody made this.
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: Did it start clicking yet?
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Both.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: And I think what was most interesting about it was
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I remember standing in the lobby. It was the Gateway
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Theater in downtown Pittsburgh. And looking at the lobby cards,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: and there was the one lobby card of.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Richard Dreyfuss in the cage with the shark going by.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: And I remember looking at that and thinking in my head, like, wow,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: that thing is huge. How did they do that? And then,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: of course, the next week, it was Time Magazine had
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: that big, gigantic article about Jaws. And it was like
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Summer of the Shark. And they had pictures of the
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: mechanical shark in the dry dock. And they talked a
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: little bit about how it was made. And that just
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: fascinated me. to no end, that somebody built a giant
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: shark and they put it in the ocean and it
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: just scared the fucking shit out of me so perfectly.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I was always interested in special effects and I think
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: up to Jaws, I was sort of leaning towards miniatures.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I loved Poseidon Adventure and the Towering Inferno and all
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: the Irwin Allen things because they all had really cool miniatures.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: You could blow up little buildings. You could blow shit up, yeah.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: So aside from the Universal monster movies and stuff, I
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: was really into, like, even Star Trek and Lost in
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Space and Land of the Giants. I loved the hardware.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: I loved the spaceships, and I loved all that stuff.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: So Jaws was one of those things where all of
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: a sudden I was like, ooh, this world of special
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: effects is kind of intriguing to me because it's not
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: just about makeup or it's not just about miniatures, but
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: it's about, like, building. And that really sort of opened
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: up kind of opened the world for me a little
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: bit and it wasn't until dawn of the dead uh
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: and friday the 13th and tom savini that it kind
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: of everything shifted now to like okay that's all cool
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: and that's all great stuff and i want to blow
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: shit up and i want to make a giant shark
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: but seeing dawn of the dead and that just i
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: went okay that's that's it that stuff's cool but that's.
• 28:40
  Speaker 9: Really To jump ahead a little, I'm assuming now you're
• 28:43
  Speaker 9: familiar with Joe Alves?
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, very much so.
• 28:46
  Speaker 9: Because we talked to him here last year, and he's
• 28:49
  Speaker 9: an amazing guy. His hands-on, so many things, and a
• 28:54
  Speaker 9: lot of movies that are epic. But that one, to
• 28:57
  Speaker 9: me it's funny. I still, I guess, have to give
• 29:00
  Speaker 9: a lot of credit to Spielberg. But listening to him
• 29:02
  Speaker 9: tell his stories, I'm like, there's a lot of that
• 29:05
  Speaker 9: that goes to him, like him just building this and
• 29:07
  Speaker 9: then him figuring out how to work it where, you know,
• 29:10
  Speaker 9: Steven's doing a lot of impressive stuff too, but I
• 29:13
  Speaker 9: think he gets all that credit. And then listening to
• 29:15
  Speaker 9: Joe tell those stories.
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: It's yeah.
• 29:17
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Joe and I become really good friends. He lives like
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: 10 minutes away from me in Los Angeles. And I
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: can't even remember where we met the first time that
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: we met, but we've, we've been friends for a long time. And,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: He comes up to the shop every once in a
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: while and he's funny because he's like four foot ten
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: and he just like zips around the shop. but you
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: know what's great about that is you know back then
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: when it was the studio system and he was a
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: studio art director so.
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: At Universal he was just on the payroll.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah so he worked on Night Gallery and he worked
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: with Hitchcock and he was there you know so It's
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: so different now, but when they talk about Jaws and
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: you realize that the production designer was out location scouting
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: and then he was the guy who was basically hired
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: to interview everybody and figure out who was going to
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: build the shark. Because they talked about like, oh, we'll
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: do it in a miniature. No, we'll get a real
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: shark and put it in a tank. The Universal Prop
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Shop or the Universal Effect Shop was too busy. Because
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: they were doing Hindenburg and they were doing other stuff.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: So Joe had to go outside of Universal, which was,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: even then, sort of unheard of. So, you know, finding
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Bob Maddy, I was like, oh, this guy, Disney did
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: this big water creature for 20,000 Leagues. I always think about,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: I was like, God, if I would have just been
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: born a little earlier, I could have been like, hey,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: I'll build that shark for you and gone through the
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: hardest movie of my career like they all did.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Shove Joe out of the way.
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: Be like, no, I'll do it.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fun because even shows that I, work on
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: now every once in a while. I'll look at the
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: call sheet and I'll see a name that I recognize.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute. We were doing Transformers
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: and I looked down at the special effects, the list
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: of who was working on the crew and it was
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: a guy named Richie Helmer. And Richie Helmer was one
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: of the guys that helped build the shark. So I
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: was like, oh my God. And I went over to
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: one of the other effects and I said, is Richie
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Helmer here? He's like, yeah, he's a crotchety old dude.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: He's in the trailer.
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: He's just, I want to talk to him.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: He's a pissy all the time. I'm like, I want
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: to meet him. I want to go talk to him.
• 31:22
  Speaker 9: Um, Well, then, I guess just jumping back to, at
• 31:26
  Speaker 9: that point, how do you get, because you see Dawn
• 31:28
  Speaker 9: of the Dead, you end up working on the sequel
• 31:32
  Speaker 9: years later.
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: What's the in-between there? Like, how do you get from
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: liking that to.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: The in-between is the weirdest Rubik's Cube of Hollywood that
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: you'll ever imagine. So, I live in Pittsburgh. I meet
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: George Romero, and of all places... I'm on a family
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: vacation in Europe. The first time, my parents took us
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: to Europe. And we went to, it was like three
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: days in London, three days in Paris, and four days
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: in Rome, something like that. And it was 1979. No,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: earlier than that. Anyway, I'm sitting at a restaurant eating dinner,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: and across the restaurant is George Romero and his wife, Christine.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: And I knew who he was, of course, because in
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh we had one Saturday night horror show called Chiller Theater.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: And the host is named Bill Cardell. And he was
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: in Night of the Living Dead. He plays the reporter.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: So what do you say, chief? How do you kill
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: these things? So he was like a local television newscaster
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: who was our horror host. So I had seen George
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: on Chiller Theater when they had played Night of the
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Living Dead. So the irony, of course, was I went
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: all the way across town. the world the other to
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: meet the guy who was gonna open the doors for
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: me so we got to be friends and we exchanged
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: phone numbers i was 16 i think at the.
• 33:04
  Speaker 9: Time this just in the restaurant you're like hey you
• 33:06
  Speaker 9: don't know me well there this was my pickup line
• 33:09
  Speaker 9: i actually have a pickup line for george romero uh
• 33:12
  Speaker 9: my uncle.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Is an actor and was in the crazies so again
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: those the It's.
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: A nice tie-in.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Five separations, degrees of separation. And we went over to
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: him and said, hey, you know Sam Nicotero? He's our uncle. So,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: of course, you're standing in the middle of a restaurant
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: in Rome and these two kids come up to you,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: my brother and I. So we became friends. And my dad, again,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: at the time was an avid movie fan and also
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: like a really big technology guy. So we owned one
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: of the first VCRs ever available. It was like reel-to-reel.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: You'd have to thread it like those old tape players.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: So we started a collection of movies. I remember the
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: first movies that we recorded were Seventh Voyage of Sinbad
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: and Horror of Dracula and The Time Machine. But you'd
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: have to record it off television. So you'd plug the
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: antenna into the back of the.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Video player and you'd record it but then the tapes
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: were only an hour long so if you were taping
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: an hour and a half movie you'd run out and
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: then you'd have to quickly re-thread another tape yeah exactly
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: so that was what my childhood was my childhood was
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: timing to when we got to a commercial where I
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: could change the tapes while I was recording stuff so
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: cut to me meeting George and I went to visit
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: him at his office once and I brought him a
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: list of all the movies that we had collected. Because
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: back then, video was just starting, but we had such
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: an early jump on it that we had been collecting
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: movies for quite a long time. And I find out
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: much later, of course, that George used to rent movies
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: from the library in New York where he lived, and
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: he and Scorsese used to fight over the same movies.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: He'd go, there was a movie called Tales of Hoffman,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: which is one of George's favorite movies. And he'd go
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: to Renton like, sorry, Mr. Scorsese has that movie. And
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: he'd be like, damn, whoever that guy is. And then
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Scorsese would go to Renton and, oh, sorry, Mr. Romero.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: I'd say, damn, whoever that guy is.
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: That guy making industrial films.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Yes, I hate those guys. So I went to George
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: and this just goes to my, I haven't told this
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: story in a long time, goes to my bottom of
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: my geekness. So I give him a list of all
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: of our movies and he circles, I don't know, 30 movies.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: This was on a Thursday afternoon or a Friday. So
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I spend the entire weekend dubbing every movie he wanted.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: So Monday morning, I go to visit him again with
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: a box. And I go, hey, so remember those movies
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: that you were interested in? And he goes, yeah, well, here.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: And I gave him all of them. And he said,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: did you even sleep? And I was like, you're George Romero.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Why would I sleep? That's ridiculous. What are you, crazy?
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: What's the matter with you?
• 36:08
  Speaker 9: So.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: That's kind of how we became friends was that I
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: was just like, George Romero needs this movie. I have
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: to make it for him immediately. And then, of course,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: just one thing led to another. And I stayed in
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: touch with him. And then when they started shooting Creepshow,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: they called. And they're like, hey, we're doing this movie.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Do you want a PA job? And I was like, well,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: this is 1981. And I said, well, the only issue
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: is that I'm graduating from high school. And I'm going
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: to go to college. But thank you. And they said, well,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: you should come visit. Maybe it was 1980, actually. It
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: wasn't 81. It was 1980. And they said, you should
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: come visit. So I went, okay. So the first time
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: I went to visit, they were shooting at an old
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: abandoned factory in Monroeville, like 10 minutes from the Monroeville Mall.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: And I pull up. And I walk into this giant warehouse,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: and they had built all the sets for the crate.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Remember the episode where they go in the basement of
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: the university and the crate's under the steps? So they
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: built all that. It was all a set that was
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: built in a warehouse. So I remember walking in, and
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: I walked through. I walked onto the set. Like, there
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: were no security guards or anything. It was just like
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: this kid, like, hey, well.
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: It's Monroeville.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: And I turned around and walked back out, and in
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: the corner of that warehouse was Tom Savini's lab. And
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: that's when I met Tom. And we got to be friends, very,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: very good friends, so much so that we spent a
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: lot of time just hanging out, and I would go
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: and visit, and he would let me come and watch
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: while they were building everything. I would just hang out.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: And so, of course, a couple years go by. I
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: stay in touch with George, and Tom and I stay
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: in touch, and the Day of the Dead comes up.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: So it's now July of 1984.
• 38:05
  Speaker 11: And.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: I go to visit George for lunch, and he's like, hey,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: we just got a green light on Day of the Dead.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Do you want a job? And I was like, okay.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: I already made this fucking mistake once. I'm not going
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: to make it again. So I said, yes. And at
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: this point, I had been in college for three years,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: because it was three years, yeah, it was three years between,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: four years between the two. And I was pre-med, and
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: I had one more year to go before I was
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: going to graduate and go off to college. And I
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: went to my folks, and I said, hey, so... funny
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: story I'm going to take a semester off school I'm
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: going to work on this movie and then I'm going
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: to go back and finish I'm going to be a
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: doctor so I don't have anything to worry about and
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: then I called Savini and I said listen I just
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: got hired on Day of the Dead I want to
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: be your assistant I want to be your like apprentice
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: and George and the producers loved that idea because that
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: allowed me to order all the supplies sift through the
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: resumes break down the script sort of kind of coordinate
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: the department And it left Tom sort of free to
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: just be Tom Savini, which at that time he was
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: really fucking good at. He's still good at it. He's
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: still Tom Savini. So that's how I got hired. It
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: was kind of a complete sort of fluke that it happened. And,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: you know, the rest, I never went back to school.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: my parents were never upset which is interesting because my
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: parents were more like listen he's a smart kid he's
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: got a good head on his shoulders whatever he does
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: I ended up dating the script supervisor who was 10
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: years older than me I moved to New York when
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: we wrapped Day of the Dead and then within a
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: year I was in Los Angeles so my parents were
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: never like, oh my God, we've lost him. My parents
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: were like, he's a smart kid. He's got a good
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: head on his shoulders. He'll be fine.
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: The evils of Hollywood.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.
• 39:59
  Speaker 9: Well then, while we're at sort of that time period,
• 40:02
  Speaker 9: do you want to do Creepshow 2?
• 40:04
  Speaker 7: That movie traumatized me. I'm still terrified of large bodies
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: of water where I can't see.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: See, that's what Jaws did for me. But Creepshow 2,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: it's a very long story, but an interesting story. So,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: We were working on Evil Dead 2. And again, when
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: I moved to New York after Day of the Dead,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Richard Rubenstein, who produced Day of the Dead and Dawn
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: of the Dead, he took a shining to me. And again,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: I think he saw something like, oh, this kid's got some...
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: He's got moxie. I like this kid. I don't know.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: That's what you want to hear.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: That's what you want to hear. Well, back then, that's
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: what you did hear. They offered me a PA job
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: on Tales from the Dark Side. And Richard was kind
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: of grooming me, I think, at that point. Richard... They
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: were so appreciative of the fact that I kind of
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: wrangled Tom's department that everything went off so smoothly on
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Day of the Dead that they were like, this kid,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: maybe he's a producer. I don't know. So Richard hired
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: me on Tales from the Dark Side and I worked
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: on the TV show for a couple months in New York.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: And then what ended up happening was I ended up
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: moving to Los Angeles. And I think Richard was a
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: little bit like, Where are you going? Why don't you stay?
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: But I wanted to do makeup effects. I didn't want
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: to be a producer. I wanted to make monsters. So
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: I worked in L.A. for a couple years, and then
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Creepshow 2 happens. And we were just finishing Evil Dead 2,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: and again, I got a call from Richard Rubenstein and
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: David Ball, the producer, and they're like, listen, we hired
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: this guy, Ed French in New York, but he needs
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: a crew. He needs people, and we know you guys.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: We trust you guys, because... You worked on Day of
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: the Dead, so we need help. And I was like, yeah, well,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: let me finish here, and then I'll go to New York.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: So Howard Berger and Mike Tercik and myself went to
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: New York, and there was a big falling out, because
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: what ended up happening was Ed French was doing his
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: own thing, and Michael Gornick, who was the director, was...
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: They were starting to get nervous because they hadn't seen
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: anything and they wanted to start seeing progress. We had
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: started working on the Chief Wooden Head suit. So, again,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: what ended up happening was they were starting to get
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: a little nervous because they hadn't seen a lot of
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: progress on stuff for the Raft episode. So, Ed French
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: got a little upset because they... basically said greg let
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: us know how things are going and ed french was
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: like well you're sort of acting like a spy so
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: you can't work here anymore so they weren't going to
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: fire me because richard and david ball those guys wanted
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: me on the movie so they sent me to arizona
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: and i worked with the special effects guys and i
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: built the blobs yeah so i spent uh i spent
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: like a week with a big roller latexing, latex onto
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: the floor and pouring polyfoam into the swirl and putting
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: all the little pieces into that. So much so, of course,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: that I ended up getting blood poisoning from the polyfoam
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: because I was in this room. So, lo and behold,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: that was my responsibilities on Creepshow 2. They were like, well,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: he can't really, Ed French doesn't want him around, so
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: let's send him out here and he'll work with us.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: And then, of course, you know, that department imploded and,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: Howard Berger and myself and Everett Burrell, we sort of
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: took over the department and we rebuilt all the effects.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: You know, we bought hundreds of gallons of ultra slime
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: and methacil and I ended up sculpting actually a lot
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: of pieces. I sculpted the rotted away arm for Paige
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Hanna and a lot of that stuff. So what that
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: episode could have been and what it ended up being,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: I look at it and I'm like, yeah, it's a
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: big piece of latex that we were pulling through the lake.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: But people, I would love to remake that episode. Actually,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: that's something that we should do because it was a
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: lot of fun and it was a great movie. It
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: was a fun movie to work on because we shot
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: two episodes in Prescott, Arizona and then we went to Bangor,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Maine and shot the last episode because Steve King lived there.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: It's funny because Steve was writing Misery at the time
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: so he came and visited set a lot and you'd
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: go into his trailer and there was crumpled up little
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: pieces of paper And I took one and kept one
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: because I was a big fan of his. I love
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Pet Sematary and Salem's Lot. And I still have it.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: And it was, he was writing Misery and was like,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: and I was like, Ooh, this is kind of cool.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I'm going to keep one of these. Ironically. And then
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: of course I ended up working on the movie. So
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: it was kind of funny.
• 44:49
  Speaker 9: Well, and then you, you mentioned Evil Dead too. That
• 44:52
  Speaker 9: was one of the other ones I was wondering, because
• 44:54
  Speaker 9: that seems like pure insanity. So like, I don't know how,
• 44:58
  Speaker 9: just coming up with such crazy ideas. And I, I
• 45:01
  Speaker 9: guess what was it like throwing in the middle of
• 45:03
  Speaker 9: that set and then coming off that first win and
• 45:05
  Speaker 9: then trying to take it to a whole new level,
• 45:07
  Speaker 9: which it definitely went to.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Well, it was, Evil Dead 2 was a blast. I mean,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: it was another crossroads in my career. It's funny, every
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: movie you're talking about was like, now I'm realizing, wow,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: that was great. I was in Pittsburgh for about three
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: months between Christmas and March waiting for Savini to get
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: a gig. Because I had moved to LA, I'd worked
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: for Mark Sjostrom, and then I went and worked at
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: DeLaurence's studio in North Carolina, and I wanted to go
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: home for Pittsburgh and see my girlfriend and hang out.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: And Savini was, I was waiting around, and finally I
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: said to Tom, I'm like, I can't wait any longer,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: I gotta get back to work. So I went back
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: to LA, and I got hired at Mark Sjostrom's on
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Evil Dead 2.
• 45:54
  Speaker 10: And.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Like a week later, Tom called, hey, I'm doing Texas
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Chainsaw Massacre 2 with Toby Hooper and Austin. I need
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: you to meet me in Texas. And I said, I can't.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: I made a commitment and I'm here. I have to
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: stay here. So we prepped that show until May and
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: then we all flew to Wadesboro, North Carolina, South Carolina
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: and shot Evil Dead 2 from like, June, July, August.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Or May, June, July. And, you know, it was all
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: in the script. I mean, all the wackiness and the weirdness.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: The funny thing was when I read, I had seen
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: the first Evil Dead, of course. So, I always remember
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: thinking that that movie was so terrifying, but that the
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: effects were so shitty that it took you right out
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: of the movie. But you take that movie, like if
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Dick Smith had been hired on the first Evil Dead,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: that would have been the, by far, the scariest, creepiest,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: movie ever made.
• 46:57
  Speaker 6: I still think that first one holds up.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: It does, but it's really scary. The effects are a little...
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: When you.
• 47:04
  Speaker 7: Watch it in the middle of the woods by yourself
• 47:07
  Speaker 7: in a sleeping bag. As a young teenager, I watched
• 47:10
  Speaker 7: it by myself. Our house was in the middle of
• 47:12
  Speaker 7: the woods by myself.
• 47:15
  Speaker 6: There's a reason you're like this.
• 47:17
  Speaker 7: There's many, many reasons. I can't go in the woods.
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: I can't go in ponds or lakes.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:24
  Speaker 9: But even the creature designs, did he have all that?
• 47:26
  Speaker 9: Like the rotten apple head is always like, that one at.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: The end, the big giant window.
• 47:31
  Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah.
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: Did he already have all that stuff kind of planned out?
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: He did.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: You know, the funny thing about Sam was is that
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: I didn't really, you know, going off the first Evil Dead,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, we're in store for like the
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: most horrifying, terror-filled excursion ever. And when we started shooting,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: they had done a couple of rewrites and they rewrote,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: they wrote the scene where Ash is in the woodshed
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: and the door flies open and Linda's headless body comes
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: in with the chainsaw. And I was like, oh my God,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: that's unbelievable. What a scary, horrifying, creepy image. And then
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: when we started shooting, I really started getting a sense
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: of like, Sam's got kind of a Three Stooges sense
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: of humor here.
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: It definitely starts to come out in that second one.
• 48:20
  Speaker 6: It really did. The first, not as much.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: The first, not as much. But the second one certainly,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: you know, Bruce Campbell breaking plates over his head for
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: three days straight was certainly something that I didn't, you
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: don't read it in the script and you don't read
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: the script and go, this is a wacky, crazy, you know,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: sort of cult movie. So I remember being like sort
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: of minimally disappointed that it wasn't scary because I wanted
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: it to be, I wanted it to be like Evil
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Dead 1, like super scary. And then, of course, once
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: they finished it and we saw it, it was just
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: so outrageous. And, you know, I remember making the gelatin
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: eyeballs that go into Cassie Wesley's mouth and putting them
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: in the freezer and keeping them cold because they were
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: made of gelatin and they were melting. And just the
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: eyeball with the monofilament and all that crazy stuff, which
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: when we were prepping it, it never really came across as...
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: as like this sort of wacky stuff. It came across
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: much more like, okay, well, here's Evil Ed and here's
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: Evil Ash and here's Henrietta and here's the pee we
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: had and here's these gags. And even the moment where
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Ash chops up evil ad and i think that the
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: footage was lost the only piece that exists is the
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: video that i shot on set of all the pieces
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: on the ground and people were like wow what what
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: happened to that scene like they he was supposed to
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: chop it up and all the pieces were still going
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: to be alive and he goes give me the chainsaw
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: and he's like and cuts everything up into little pieces
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: uh so when we started shooting and it was you
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: know the peewee head's eyeball gets in the trap door
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: and they jump on it and The eyeball flies out.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: I really don't remember ever being like, oh, yeah, this
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: is the wacky shot with the eyeball flying around.
• 50:16
  Speaker 6: It's all technical. It's like, how do I shoot?
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. But it was fun. I mean, it was
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: really one of the most fun experiences. And, again, K
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: & B was born from Evil Dead 2. Me, Howard,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: and Bob, we worked together so well that it kind
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: of– like solidified this idea of like, wow, we really
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: should start doing our own stuff.
• 50:41
  Speaker 9: So I guess, I mean, you've ended up doing such amazing,
• 50:45
  Speaker 9: just conceived special effects and they, they continue even like
• 50:49
  Speaker 9: even in The Walking Dead now.
• 50:51
  Speaker 6: Do you come up with that stuff well ahead of time?
• 50:54
  Speaker 6: Is it really planned out or is it on the fly?
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: No, it is. It's, it's, there's some happy accidents that
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: do happen on the fly.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: But that's the most rewarding part of prepping a movie
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: is those first few meetings with the director where you
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: have the script in front of you and you sit
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: with the director and you start throwing ideas around because
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: that's when you're the most creative. Oh, what if we
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: tried it this way? What if we tried it this way?
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: What do you think about this idea? A lot of
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: times the directors will have, no, this is exactly what
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: I want. And other times the directors will want you
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: to help guide the process. So, We were always involved
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: in sort of helping the directors guide that process and
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: develop where the effects would go. And I think that
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: has a lot to do with where I am in
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: my career now because of having that freedom. There was
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: one time I remember on a set where a director
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: was like, I was like, listen, we should set this
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: shot first. And I remember the director saying, well, what
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: the fuck do you know your makeup? You don't know anything.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: I'll never forget that because I was like, well, but
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: you're hiring me for my expertise. And if you're asking
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: me how to shoot something and I'm giving you my
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: expert opinion and you don't want to take it, then
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: you're a fucking idiot.
• 52:17
  Speaker 6: Did that plant that seed for directing? Because it took
• 52:20
  Speaker 6: you a while, it seemed like.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Before you decided. No, I never really imagined that I
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: was going to be a director. I made my.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: United Monster Talent Agency short just because it was something
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: I wanted to try I just wanted to do it
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: just to see if I could do it it wasn't
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: like I'm going to become a director now I did
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: it I had a lot of fun I didn't fuck
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: it up I wasn't I didn't blow it and directing
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: just kind of fell into place I mean the truth
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: is I've had the best film school in the world
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: I've been on set with Steven Spielberg and Quentin Tarantino
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: and Robert Rodriguez and Frank Darabont the best John Carpenter
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: and John Landis and Wes Craven and George Romero. Every
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: director that has had an impact on society in the
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: last 40 years, I've had the good fortune of working with.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: I read an interview somewhere where somebody said, I learn
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: more from the directors that don't know what they're doing.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: I found that to be kind of a ridiculous comment
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: because every director is different and when I watch Quentin
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Tarantino spend three weeks rehearsing a scene with actors before
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: a frame of film is even rolled, I understand what's
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: important to him. And then I watch other directors that
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: those performances aren't as important, and it's the visuals that
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: are important. It's just how people... That's why every director
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: is different. I never thought I was going to be
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: a director. I was just fortunate enough to... realized that
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: I had had enough experience on movie sets and had
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: downloaded enough with the people that I worked with to
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: guide me into being able to visualize what my vision
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: of things are.
• 54:08
  Speaker 9: I think even beyond that it's different going into.
• 54:11
  Speaker 6: It just wanting to be kind of competent and take
• 54:13
  Speaker 6: care of everybody. You've done some really stylish stuff these
• 54:16
  Speaker 6: last couple of seasons.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: I've been trying and I directed a pilot last year
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: for AMC that didn't get picked up but Even though
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: it didn't go, I still learned a tremendous amount. And
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: I was in Los Angeles editing the first episode of
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: season six for Walking Dead. And the editor even said,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: you shot this episode so different than anything else that
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: you've ever done. What's different? And I said, well, I
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: learned a lot. Even though that pilot didn't go, I
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: learned a lot about how to interpret how I want
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: to shoot things. And it was really fascinating for him
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: to say that because I actually physically set out to
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: put a different visual style on the way I was
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: shooting things. And when he said, wow, this episode is
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: shot so beautifully and the composition and just the way
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: you blocked everything and it just, it's so much more polished.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: And that's something that Frank Darabont said when we wrapped
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: the first season of Walking Dead. I got a call
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: from Vampire Diaries and they said, hey, we need a
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: second unit director. Are you available? And I went, sure.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: And I flew to Georgia and directed a couple days
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: for them and I remember saying to Frank yeah I
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: got offered to direct second unit on Vampire Diaries he's
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: like go he said any opportunity to get behind the
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: camera is a good opportunity because you can only get
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: better I hate to say this but I have to run.
• 55:43
  Speaker 6: Do you have anything you need to tell people as
• 55:45
  Speaker 6: far as watch Walking.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: Dead or more specific keep watching Walking Dead no I
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: mean I'm grateful for the fans of the support of
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: the show Uh, season six will be on, on the
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: air in October. You know, we're always October through March
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: and it's shaping up to be something spectacular. Awesome.
• 56:06
  Speaker 6: And spoiler alert, who do I have to blame for
• 56:08
  Speaker 6: the Beth situation?
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: Uh, you have to blame our writers.
• 56:12
  Speaker 6: I was not pleased.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 56:15
  Speaker 6: Mostly because, maybe it's just because she's so adorable.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: She is adorable and that has a lot to do
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: with it because people never said, well, what are we
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: going to do that Tyrese is now gone?
• 56:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: Tyrese is not as adorable as Beth is.
• 56:25
  Speaker 6: I just saw her perform.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: I know, she's great.
• 56:28
  Speaker 6: She's a great songwriter, too.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: I just talked to her the other day.
• 56:30
  Speaker 8: She's awesome.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: I think it caught her a little off guard, but
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: the truth of the matter is, you've got a great career.
• 56:36
  Speaker 9: It's good to keep people guessing, but yeah, that was
• 56:39
  Speaker 9: just such a weird turn of events.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: I told Marta Kristen I would have dinner with her
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: at 6.30.
• 56:45
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: I'm holding up Judy Robinson. Thank you.
• 56:49
  Speaker 11: Bye.
• 56:49
  Speaker 8: Thanks again.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, of course.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 56:51
  Speaker 8: They hung a sign up in our town If you
• 56:56
  Speaker 8: live it up, you won't live it.
• 56:59
  Speaker 17: Down So she left Monroe, son.
• 57:07
  Speaker 9: Just like a bullet leaves a.
• 57:11
  Speaker 8: Gun Charcoal eyes and Monroe.
• 57:16
  Speaker 16: Hips She went and took the California trip.
• 57:24
  Speaker 8: Well, the moon was gold and her hair like wind. Said,
• 57:28
  Speaker 8: don't look back now, just come on, Jim. You gotta
• 57:33
  Speaker 8: hold on, hold on. You gotta hold on. Take my
• 57:39
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• 57:43
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• 57:54
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• 57:56
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• 57:57
  Speaker 6: There's a whole ad of you saying that nonsense that
• 57:59
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• 58:01
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  Speaker 6: This is Scott Wilson.
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  Speaker 16: I played Herschel Green on The Walking Dead, and this
• 1:00:01
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  Speaker 3: Stay tuned. It's part of your problem, you know.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: You haven't seen enough movies.
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  Speaker 4: All of life's riddles are answered in the movies.
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  Speaker 2: And now, on with the show.
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  Speaker 8: The Walking Dead.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 14: You push all the buttons, you seem to enjoy.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 16: They're larger than life to one little approach.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 8: Let me hear your voice. Well, be on your approach.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 8: I see you through the magic. And I hear you
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 8: spin your mirror. Smile real and stick through the smoke
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 8: and the mirrors. My eyes love all my brand new checks.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 14: Never gonna fall for.
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• 1:01:04
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  Speaker 8: My eyes love what my brain rejects. Never gonna fall
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 8: for your special effects. Special effects. Special effects. I thought
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  Speaker 8: my picture was in.
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  Speaker 11: Here.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 6: You got your picture with Greg Nicotero?
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 7: I did. I get my picture taken with Greg Nicotero.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 6: Was he awesome?
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 7: He was pretty. He seemed really nice.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 6: He's pretty damn cool.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 7: They had somebody in there waiting to take pictures for you.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 7: They were only letting one person in at a time.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 6: That's for the best.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 7: I know, but still.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 9: You don't want these nerds to get all excited and
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 9: a big zombie horde breaks out.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 7: I was kind of waiting for it. He had nice shoes, too.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 7: I liked his shoes.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 6: Good to know.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 7: He didn't smell either. I liked that. It didn't smell
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 7: like zombies. I was kind of afraid of that, but
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 7: it was all good.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 6: That would be an issue.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 7: It seemed really nice and smelled decent, so that's good.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 7: You probably should have recorded hours ago before I was
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 7: tired again.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 9: You're always kind of loopy.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 6: I hate to tell you.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 7: If you caught me right after my Pop-Tarts, I might
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 7: have been better.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 6: You did sit here eating Pop-Tarts at the table.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 7: I did, and I was so glad nobody wanted to
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 7: shake my hand because I was mid-Pop-Tart, and that would
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 7: not have gone over well.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 6: They did try to shake you. They did not. You
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 6: kind of growled at them.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 7: I thought you were trying to talk about Pop-Tarts.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 6: Dog with a toy.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, never mind.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 6: I'll just.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 7: Don't come between Misty and her food.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 9: Luckily, I had to be our public relations while you
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 9: sat over there and growled at people while eating Pop-Tarts.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 7: Then again, it's kind of like that when I'm not
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 7: eating Pop-Tarts.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, kind of.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 7: I'm not a friendly person.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 9: Alright, well, it has been another wonderful year, and I'm
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 9: sure many other Wonderfest episodes will be coming your way
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 9: in the near future of lots and lots of coverage.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 7: I love Wonderfest.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: It's awesome.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 6: And you should come here, too.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 7: I like their carpet. I've been the whole way, not
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 7: the one in here.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 9: It is a very homey place, but that's just because
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 9: we've been here for like 17 years or however long
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 9: it's been.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 7: We're right by the ice water, too, so just in
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 7: case we get parched.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 6: That is something I wanted to mention.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 9: They're I get back to our levels of geekiness that
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 9: are a little above certain others. Some people, and I'll
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 9: say people, but it's mostly guys that I see at
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 9: these conventions that are just like, okay, no, I have
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 9: to take pictures of everything.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 6: And I'm like, that's cool. But sometimes I'm like, what
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 6: are you doing?
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 9: Because there were two guys earlier, one of which was
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 9: assigned the camera, and he had this pretty big, real camera.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 6: They don't even need those anymore. Your phone takes a
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 6: better picture sometimes.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 7: Did you take a picture of the water pictures? He
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 7: stood in front of our table and took a picture
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 7: of the water. They're shiny.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 9: I mean, it's nice ice water area over here, but
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 9: there's like a stack of cups and some metal containers
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 9: holding water.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 6: And he took a picture of it.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 7: They are fancy.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 9: I'm just like, what are you going to do with
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 9: that picture? Like, what do you need that picture for?
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 9: I'm taking a lot of weird pictures of conventions, but never.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: Of the water.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 7: If you took it crooked, it's art.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 6: That's your thingy.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 7: That's not mine.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 6: You are an artiste.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 7: I was mocking somebody else's fantastic art photos. Let's tilt
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 7: the camera a little bit. Fucking art.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 6: Sad thing is I think I know who you're talking about.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 7: Her name's Judy.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 6: No names will.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 7: Be used, but I think I know who you're talking about.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 7: You can censor it. I don't give a shit. I'm
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 7: not her friend on Facebook anymore.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 6: That's official. We're not friends. I don't know if she's
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 6: anybody's friend.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 7: I'm kind of disappointed there haven't been that many costumes
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 7: here as they normally used to be, it seems like.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 7: It's just like you couldn't spin a stick without hitting
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 7: like a Boba Fett. What the hell is that over there?
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 17: Bosk.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 7: That's Bosk.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 6: I think Bosk was here last year.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 7: But it seems like the first couple years was him here.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 7: There'd be aliens everywhere, predators everywhere. Like I said, you
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 7: couldn't swing a stick without hitting at least one. Now
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 7: it's like you'd have to get a way bigger stick.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 6: That's why they don't let you in here with a stick.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 7: Remember that guy who did the really good Anakin?
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 11: No.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 7: I mean he looked just like Anakin Skywalker.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 6: And he used to come here.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 7: Yes I think I blocked him out there's a picture
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 7: of me with.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 18: A guy okay no I kind of do remember because
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 18: I think I took that picture so now that you
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 18: say that I do kind of remember taking a picture
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 18: of you and an Anakin kid he wasn't a kid
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 18: he was Hayden Christensen he was Hayden Christensen that guy.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 7: Sucks anyways but this guy probably could have done a
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 7: better job am I the only one who doesn't give
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 7: a shit about Star Wars.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 6: Yes Okay, that's what I thought. In, I'd say, at
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 6: least America, but probably the world over, you're the only one.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 7: Because in a movie, I'm like, I don't even fucking
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 7: care about this.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 6: Get out.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 7: There's only like one movie.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 9: You're not allowed to stay at a geek convention and
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 9: talk bad about Star Wars.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 7: I've only seen him maybe once each. And the first
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 7: times I watched him was with you and Sammy overdubbing
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 7: the entire fucking thing.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 9: Phantom Menace, you can trash all you want, and you
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 9: can pretty much talk bad about.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 6: The other two as well.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 7: At least Phantom Menace had Darth Maul.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 6: Darth Maul is the only.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 7: Not that I hate them, I just don't give a
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 7: shit about the new ones.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 9: But the new ones have potential. I'm looking forward to
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 9: the new ones. Because George isn't involved anymore. No offense,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 9: I've gotten to the point, I've come back around, like.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 6: Now that he's not.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 9: Now that he's not involved in any way, shape, or form,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 9: I've actually come back around and I'm like, actually.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 6: I'm talking about good things that he did on those first... Well,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 6: that one. The one that he directed.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 9: But I'm like, I've actually come back around to being like, Wow,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 9: he really was visionary. Wow, he really did a great
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 9: job directing that movie. He did a good job running
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 9: that first two and a half-ish. He did some pretty
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 9: amazing things. He totally revolutionized the film industry, the toy industry, marketing, sound,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 9: special effects.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 6: He really made an.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 9: Impact on film that will forever massively have changed it.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 9: So I'm glad that he's not involved because it gives
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 9: me a reason to like him again. It's like I
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 9: got so annoyed with the prequel nonsense that I really
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 9: was not.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 6: Thrilled with him.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 9: So I think a lot of geeks were in that
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 9: place and maybe now we can come back around and
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 9: be like, you know what? He made us a great
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 9: movie that led to this franchise. That's not one I
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 9: think I need to go see in the theater.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 6: You're doing it wrong.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 7: There's only one movie coming out this year that I
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 7: feel like, it's like, okay, I need to go.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 6: See this movie.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 7: Crimson Peak.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 6: It did look very cool.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 7: It looked fucking fantastic. It did look very cool. Well,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 7: first of all, it's got Tom Hiddleston, who we all
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 7: know I gotta thank for. Again, British.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 9: Yeah, again, I don't know who this Misty is that
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 9: has emerged in the last few years, but she has
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 9: definitely killed.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 6: The old Misty.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 7: But it's different because I still stick with hating British comedy.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 6: Well, it is a very specific thing.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 7: British comedy sucks.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 6: It's an acquired taste. I'll put it that way.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 9: Because there's a lot of it that's a lot of
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 9: what is considered the popular stuff that I never took to.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 9: I was all about some young ones. But even that,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 9: it took me a long time to eat. If MTV
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 9: didn't just repeat it every week and there's only a
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 9: handful of episodes.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 6: So I saw them over and over and over again.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 9: And eventually I started to get how their humor were,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 9: especially those guys.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 6: They have a very specific style. So it's like I
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 6: got on board with that and then I tried.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 11: But.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 9: Most of what most people like is British, especially the
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 9: older run of, like, TV British comedy.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 6: I really wasn't that taken with either.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 7: Well, Boyfriend's all about absolutely fabulous. I remember that got huge, like,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 7: out of nowhere. And I remember them, like, selling.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 6: Boxes of the VHSs. That's how far back this goes. And, like,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 6: there's moments that are funny.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 9: Like, i that one's funnier than a lot of the
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 9: other stuff before that but i feel like even that
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 9: is it's got such a weird british spin to it
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 9: that like you kind of have to either get it
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 9: or you don't.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 7: But anyways i was kind of afraid because i figured
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 7: my love for tom hiddleston was it seemed like it
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 7: was getting kind of narrowed down like Is he just
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 7: going to be Loki for me? Is that all I'm
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 7: going to have? I only love Loki. For a while,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 7: I was beginning to wonder because he kept doing other
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 7: things and I'm like, no.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: No, dude.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 7: Keep on moving. But then I saw the trailer for
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 7: Crimson Peak and I'm like, holy shit. He's my new
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 7: Loki in this one because he's not Loki, but he's
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 7: my new... I'm like, I can dig this.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 6: I can get into this guy. I can.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 7: I can totally dig this. And the trailer looks so
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 7: fucking amazing.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 6: You sent it to me. It looks really good.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 7: No, you watched it at my house. On my couch.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 7: I made you watch the trailer because you were like, yeah,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 7: that's why you like it. It's got Loki in it.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 9: I remember.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 7: What's the director's name? Did he write it too? I
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 7: can't say his name, so I'm trying to pawn it
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 7: off on you.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 6: Isn't it Del Toro?
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 7: See, that's when you go for the first names. I
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 7: couldn't do the first. It's Guadalamo. I can't do it.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 6: Guillermo Del Toro.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 7: I can't say it, so that's why I was, you know.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 7: But anyways.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 6: I butcher most names. I just heard that one a lot.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 7: I didn't watch Pacific Rim.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: Was that his last movie?
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 9: I believe so, because I feel like he kind of
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 9: needed to redeem himself a little bit.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 7: Anyways, the trailer for Crimson Peak looks fucking amazing.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 6: And he is, based on that trailer, he is redeeming.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 6: Not that Pacific Rim's bad.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 7: It just wasn't.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 9: I expected a little more out of him and just
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 9: from what they built it up to be.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 6: And it's fun.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 9: It's serviceable as an action, you know, things hitting each
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 9: other kind of a movie.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 6: It's fine. But this looks above and beyond that. It
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 6: looks pretty impressive. There's ghosts.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 8: Oh my god.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 7: So spooky.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 6: You're special.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: I like spooky movies.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 6: Very special.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 7: I like scary movies and there's not very many good
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 7: ones of those. There's not. Anything else? Are we done now?
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 6: You did say your jibber-jabbers.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 7: Jibber-jabbers. That's what I do. I jibber-jabber a lot.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 6: Do you have more jibber-jabbers for them?
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 7: I might need more Pop-Tarts, though. I'm getting hungry again.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 6: That does not surprise me.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 9: I think that rounds out this episode. There will be
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 9: more Wonderfest coverage coming your way in the near future.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 9: But in the meantime, tell them goodbye, Misty.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 7: Goodbye, Misty.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 6: Otherwise, that about does it. We will return next time.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 6: Same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 17: There's a humming in the rest of summer air. And
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 17: we're slipping off the course that we prepared. But in
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 17: all chaos, there is calculation. Dropping glasses just to hear
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 17: them break. You've been drinking like the world was going
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 17: to end. Took a shot from a fist of your
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 17: best friend. It's clear that someone's got to go. We
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 17: mean it, but I promise we're not mean.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 8: And the cry goes out. Oh, oh, oh.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 17: Feels are mine for us and how it plays out.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 17: And now we're in the ring and we're coming for blood.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 12: You could try and take us. But we're the gladiators.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 15: If you wanna rage at us.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 16: We're secretly the saviors. Glory and gore go hand in hand.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 8: That's why we're making headlines.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 12: You can try and take us But.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 8: Victory's contagious.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 17: Delicate in every way but one God knows we like
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 17: our clear kinds of fun Chance is the only game
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 17: I play with, baby We let our battles choose us
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 17: And the choir goes loud They lose their minds for
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 17: us and how it plays out And now we're in
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 17: the ring and we're coming for blood.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 12: You could try and take us.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 15: But with the gladiators Everyone a ranger They're.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 16: Secretly their saviors Glory and gore go hand in hand
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 16: That's why we're making headlines.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 8: You can try.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 14: And take us But.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 8: Victory's contagious.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 17: No one around here's good at keeping their eyes closed
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 17: The sun's starting to light up when we're walking home
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 17: Tired little laughs, gold lie promises We'll always win at this,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 17: I don't ever think about death It's alright if you do,
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 17: it's fine We gladiate, but I guess we're really fighting
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 17: ourselves Roughing up our minds so we're ready when the
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 17: kill time comes wide awake in bed words in my
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 17: brain secretly.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 8: You love this do you.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 17: Even want to go free let me in the ring
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 17: i'll show you what that big word means.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 12: I thought the show was over. Why am I still talking?
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 8: Because you talked.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 7: I do talk. I talk a lot.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 9: Oh, by the way, the building might be on fire
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 9: and you might all die. You might want to exit
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 9: any time in the near future.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 7: That was weird.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 6: I'm hungry.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 7: Part of me really wants some nachos, but I know
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 7: they will kill me. Yeah, my blood is not on these.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 11: Yet.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 7: Kind of like his boogie eyes. Yeah.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 6: What was that?
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 7: All I heard was because of a pervert. The things
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 7: you hear at the Wonderfest.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: I don't believe that.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 7: She's fine.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 8: She does have issues.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 7: I do have issues.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: Who doesn't?
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 8: I have all of the issues.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 6: That's possibly true.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 7: Oh, sweet baby Jesus, I just heard him talk.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 6: I told you.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 7: If ever there was a nerd who was a nerd,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 7: that's the nerd.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: I made it in the bathroom with Romero.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 7: It's Godzilla the Ninja. I couldn't even sleep last night.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 7: I had nightmares about not being able to find the
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 7: free things.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 6: The sad thing is, this is all real.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 7: I can't make this shit up.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: Why would you?
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 7: Exactly.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 6: No, really, why would you?
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: We're keeping all this on the podcast, by the way.
• 1:16:36
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• 1:16:38
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• 1:16:42
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