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- 0:03Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Christanamio.
- 0:07Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, October two. A Sydney accountant who installed dummy
- 0:14Speaker 1: directors in dozens of companies has been charged with sixteen
- 0:18Speaker 1: criminal offenses by the corporate regulator. Wayne Fraser faced the
- 0:22Speaker 1: Downing Center District Court on Tuesday, where he's accused of
- 0:25Speaker 1: making or authorizing false or misleading statements in documents lodged
- 0:30Speaker 1: with the Australian Securities and Investments Commission. That story's live
- 0:34Speaker 1: right now at the Australian dot Com dot a U.
- 0:40Speaker 1: Hundreds of Iranian rockets have rained down over parts of
- 0:43Speaker 1: Israel in a retaliatory attack for the death of Hesbala
- 0:46Speaker 1: leader Hassan Nasrallah. It comes less than a day after
- 0:50Speaker 1: the Israeli Defense Force launched a targeted incursion of southern Lebanon.
- 0:54Speaker 1: In Australia, a political row has erupted over the way
- 0:58Speaker 1: police handle breaches of our new speech laws after protesters
- 1:02Speaker 1: waved flags emblazoned with Hesbela insignia. In today's episode Why
- 1:07Speaker 1: Nobody Can Agree on how we police hatred at mosques
- 1:16Speaker 1: across Western Sydney On Monday, night, Muslim clerics preached to
- 1:20Speaker 1: hundreds of worshippers.
- 1:21Speaker 2: He decided sam As said Hassana.
- 1:27Speaker 1: They were reflecting on the death of Hassan Nasrallah, the
- 1:30Speaker 1: charismatic but reclusive leader of Lebanese terrorist organization Hesbla, who
- 1:35Speaker 1: was killed in a targeted Israeli air strike days earlier.
- 1:39Speaker 1: They called him a history maker. They said his blood
- 1:47Speaker 1: was not shed in vain Muslimin. They called him a
- 1:59Speaker 1: support of the oppressed and an inspiration for future generations.
- 2:05Speaker 3: Enough Sa and Nashadahinaya Trucuna head Runa, Yet Trucuna held
- 2:11Speaker 3: for whom erstan hurly than Minacierra Saliha Lembardi, him kron
- 2:21Speaker 3: Waharakatan Juzu RuSHA Lisa man In.
- 2:26Speaker 1: The services were so well attended that worshipers spilled out
- 2:29Speaker 1: onto the streets surrounding the Al Raman Mosque in Kingsgrove.
- 2:33Speaker 1: Pictures posted to the mosque social media profiles showed children
- 2:37Speaker 1: wearing clothing emblazoned with Hesbola insignia.
- 2:40Speaker 2: Alat was As.
- 2:46Speaker 1: Nadi yak.
- 2:54Speaker 2: A lot.
- 3:03Speaker 1: On Tuesday, Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke slammed the commemorations,
- 3:08Speaker 1: joining a growing chorus concerned about public support for Hesbollah.
- 3:12Speaker 4: Well, the government doesn't mourn him for one minute, not
- 3:15Speaker 4: for one minute. But I'll tell you there are civilians
- 3:18Speaker 4: who have been killed who we mourn.
- 3:21Speaker 1: In the wake of Nazalla's death, supporters rallied in Melbourne
- 3:24Speaker 1: and Sydney. They carried Hesbala flags and portraits of its
- 3:28Speaker 1: slain leader, which is illegal under Australian law. They chanted
- 3:32Speaker 1: labaika ja Nasrallah in Arabic, which translates to at your
- 3:38Speaker 1: service Nasrallah or here i am Nazreelah. The Australian Federal
- 3:44Speaker 1: Police said it'll consider prosecuting at least six people who
- 3:47Speaker 1: attended the rally in Melbourne for displaying pro hesbela material.
- 3:51Speaker 1: If convicted, they could face up to twelve months in prison.
- 3:55Speaker 1: But there's a catch. We've used an AI voice generator
- 3:59Speaker 1: to read a state meant from the Australian Federal Police.
- 4:02Speaker 5: The mere public display of a prohibited symbol on its
- 4:05Speaker 5: own does not meet the threshold of a Commonwealth offense.
- 4:09Speaker 5: The Criminal Code sets out very specific elements that must
- 4:12Speaker 5: be met in order to charge an individual with a
- 4:14Speaker 5: prohibited symbol offense.
- 4:17Speaker 1: Basically, even if the cops deem the behavior is illegal,
- 4:20Speaker 1: they may not be able to do anything about it.
- 4:23Speaker 1: Opposition Leader Peter Dutton says that's not good enough. He's
- 4:27Speaker 1: called for Parliament to be recalled to criminalize these kinds
- 4:30Speaker 1: of public displays support for terrorist organizations. Home Affairs Minister
- 4:35Speaker 1: Tony Burke said he'll consider canceling the visas of anyone
- 4:39Speaker 1: found to be inciting discord in Australia.
- 4:42Speaker 4: We do have a higher standard in Australia a visa
- 4:45Speaker 4: as to what's expected. If you're on a visa in
- 4:47Speaker 4: anyone's country, you're there as a guest, and inciting discord
- 4:51Speaker 4: is a reason for me to refuse visas and a
- 4:53Speaker 4: reason for me to cancel.
- 4:56Speaker 1: But Attorney General Mark Dreyfuss, who's the nation's most senior
- 5:00Speaker 1: legal figure, says that's not their job.
- 5:05Speaker 6: Mark Dreyfus's position is that the Labor government passed new
- 5:09Speaker 6: hate speech laws at the end of last year, and
- 5:13Speaker 6: it's up to the police to enforce those laws.
- 5:17Speaker 1: Joe Kelly is The Australian's National affairs editor, and.
- 5:20Speaker 6: Mark Dreyfus says it's not the role of the political system.
- 5:24Speaker 6: Politicians or MPs to direct the police to make arrests.
- 5:29Speaker 6: So essentially he's trying to say that Peter Dutton has
- 5:33Speaker 6: gone a little bit too far.
- 5:37Speaker 1: This is a tense political moment for Australia.
- 5:40Speaker 6: And Peter Dutton is making the case that we shouldn't
- 5:43Speaker 6: be living in an Australian society where people can go
- 5:47Speaker 6: out on the streets and protest and display the symbols
- 5:51Speaker 6: of terrorist organizations that are prohibited. He contends that it
- 5:56Speaker 6: is within the scope of those new hate speech laws
- 5:59Speaker 6: for peace to be arrested because of those actions, and
- 6:02Speaker 6: he says if there is any doubt about that, then
- 6:05Speaker 6: the laws need to be strengthened urgently. But I think
- 6:08Speaker 6: the broader issue is that Peter Dutton is now constructing
- 6:12Speaker 6: a political narrative going all the way back to October nine,
- 6:16Speaker 6: when there were those protests outside the Opera House, which
- 6:20Speaker 6: took place before Israel had retaliated in response to the
- 6:24Speaker 6: October seven attacks, and basically said we haven't seen sufficient leadership,
- 6:29Speaker 6: that the government hasn't been doing and saying the right things,
- 6:33Speaker 6: and so leadership takes many manifestations. It's the position that
- 6:37Speaker 6: leaders adopt, it's what they say it sets the tone,
- 6:41Speaker 6: and Peter Dutton is effectively saying they've set the wrong
- 6:44Speaker 6: tone and everything that has transpired since October seven has
- 6:50Speaker 6: been influenced by that tone. So I think that's the
- 6:53Speaker 6: central political dragon that Labour's seeking to contend with at
- 6:58Speaker 6: the moment, this perception that's been created that they haven't
- 7:02Speaker 6: been tough enough. And so if you look at how
- 7:05Speaker 6: many arrests have been made by people protesting, it's been
- 7:10Speaker 6: reported that there have been two people who are protesting
- 7:13Speaker 6: displaying Nazi imagery, but not really any arrests made in
- 7:18Speaker 6: relation to what we're seeing with anti Semitism, support for
- 7:22Speaker 6: terrorist organizations.
- 7:24Speaker 2: And the like.
- 7:29Speaker 1: Coming up inside Israel's move on Lebanon. Subscribers to The
- 7:33Speaker 1: Australian are first to hear breaking news out of the
- 7:35Speaker 1: Middle East. Check us out at the Australian dot com
- 7:38Speaker 1: dot au and we'll be back after this break. For
- 7:51Speaker 1: almost a year, ever since the Gaza based terrorist group
- 7:54Speaker 1: Hamas launched a deadly attack on southern Israel, Hezbollah has
- 7:58Speaker 1: been firing rockets across the border, thousands of them. In
- 8:03Speaker 1: that time. Israel's been planning on Tuesday morning in defiance
- 8:08Speaker 1: of calls for a ceasefire by the United States and others.
- 8:11Speaker 1: It took its opportunity as supporters mauned the death of
- 8:15Speaker 1: terrorist leader Hassan Nasraala, the Israeli Defense Force began an
- 8:18Speaker 1: anticipated ground incursion of parts of Lebanon. In the early
- 8:22Speaker 1: hours of Tuesday morning local time, the IDF confirmed it
- 8:26Speaker 1: would embark on limited, localized and targeted raids over the
- 8:30Speaker 1: border in southern Lebanon.
- 8:33Speaker 5: These operations were approved and carried out in accordance with
- 8:36Speaker 5: the decision of the political echelon.
- 8:40Speaker 1: Israel also launched air strikes on Lebanon's capital city, Beirut,
- 8:44Speaker 1: where it says it struck weapons manufacturing facilities, and Damascus
- 8:48Speaker 1: in nearby Syria, where it was reportedly targeting Major General
- 8:52Speaker 1: Maha al Asad, the brother of President Bashah al Assad.
- 8:56Speaker 1: Assyrian journalist reported on the social platform x normally known
- 9:00Speaker 1: as Twitter that the bombing targeted a meeting of military
- 9:03Speaker 1: leaders between Hesbola and the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, with which
- 9:08Speaker 1: al Assade was reportedly affiliated. Around the same time, the
- 9:12Speaker 1: United States moved its military forces into place in hopes
- 9:16Speaker 1: of deterring a counter attack by Iran. Hesbola's powerful backer.
- 9:21Speaker 1: Fears of retaliation by Iran ramped up following the death
- 9:24Speaker 1: of Nazrula, who they considered a close ally. As the
- 9:28Speaker 1: raids got underway in Lebanon, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netnyahu
- 9:32Speaker 1: sent a message to the Iranian people.
- 9:34Speaker 2: With every passing moment, the regime is bringing you, the
- 9:38Speaker 2: noble Persian people, closer to the abyss. Iran's tyrants don't
- 9:44Speaker 2: care about your future, but you do when Iran is
- 9:48Speaker 2: finally free, and that moment will come a lot sooner
- 9:51Speaker 2: than people think everything will be different.
- 9:56Speaker 1: Overnight, Iran's Revolutionary Guard fired hundreds of missiles at Israel,
- 10:00Speaker 1: with artillery and shrapnel reportedly raining down on Tel Aviv,
- 10:04Speaker 1: as well as areas of the Holy City of Jerusalem
- 10:07Speaker 1: and southern Israel. The Revolutionary Guards said in a statement
- 10:15Speaker 1: that it had targeted the heart of the occupied territories
- 10:18Speaker 1: in retaliation for Nasraela's death, as well as the death
- 10:22Speaker 1: of slain Hamas leader Ismail Hanie. The IDF said it
- 10:27Speaker 1: wasn't aware of any casualties from the hour long attack
- 10:30Speaker 1: after Israelis were ordered into bomb shelters around the country,
- 10:34Speaker 1: and it issued a warning. It said this will have consequences.
- 10:38Speaker 1: We have plans we will act, deciding where and when,
- 10:43Speaker 1: but Iran's Revolutionary Guard said in a statement it would
- 10:46Speaker 1: carry out crushing attacks if those plans came to fruition.
- 10:51Speaker 1: The White House confirmed US President Joe Biden had ordered
- 10:55Speaker 1: US military to assist Israel in shooting down missiles. Shortly
- 10:59Speaker 1: before the miss campaign, approximately ten people were killed in
- 11:03Speaker 1: a terror attack on a light rail station in the
- 11:05Speaker 1: Ja'far area of Tel Aviv. Israeli police said two gunmen
- 11:10Speaker 1: carrying assault rifles had been neutralized. For its part, Hesbela
- 11:16Speaker 1: issued a handful of statements saying it made direct hits
- 11:19Speaker 1: on IDF troops stationed in towns just across the border
- 11:23Speaker 1: in northern Israel. They'd previously been designated closed military zones
- 11:28Speaker 1: by the IDF. The statement said the rockets and artillery
- 11:32Speaker 1: shells had been fired in solidarity with the Palestinian people
- 11:35Speaker 1: in the Gaza Strip and in support of their valiant
- 11:38Speaker 1: and honorable resistance to IDF forces which have been operating
- 11:42Speaker 1: in the region for almost a year. Second in command
- 11:46Speaker 1: Nam Kassem said Hesbola is ready for a ground engagement
- 11:50Speaker 1: and has no qualms about a wider regional conflict. The
- 11:54Speaker 1: assault continued in Gaza, too, where the IDF says it
- 11:57Speaker 1: conducted a precise strike on a mass command and control
- 12:01Speaker 1: center occupied by militants. Joe Kelly is The Australian's National
- 12:09Speaker 1: Affairs editor. This situation is developing quickly. You can catch
- 12:17Speaker 1: up on all the latest from the Middle East anytime
- 12:19Speaker 1: at the Australian dot com dot au