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- 0:05Speaker 1: You are listening to the global network of podcasters dedicated
- 0:09Speaker 1: to the pharmacy profession. Welcome to the pharmacy podcast Network.
- 0:21Speaker 2: Welcome to CPHD Connect, the only weekly podcast specifically for
- 0:26Speaker 2: pharmacy technicians. Join us as we dive into the hot topics,
- 0:31Speaker 2: tough conversations, and industry trends affecting pharmacy technicians.
- 0:35Speaker 3: In each episode, we.
- 0:37Speaker 2: Connect you with industry leaders who want to help you
- 0:39Speaker 2: expand your patient care, pharmacy practice, and professional advancement. Now
- 0:44Speaker 2: here's your host, Mike Johnston, CPHD.
- 0:51Speaker 4: Welcome to CPHD Connect. I'm your host, Mike Johnston, and
- 0:56Speaker 4: today's guest is someone who true represents what growth in
- 1:01Speaker 4: pharmacy can look like. Today's guest is Elaine Cismfu Ramos.
- 1:09Speaker 4: She's a nationally certified pharmacy technician who began her career
- 1:12Speaker 4: in retail pharmacy and steadily worked her way into an
- 1:16Speaker 4: outpatient imbution specialty setting, expanding her clinical expertise and deepening
- 1:23Speaker 4: her impact on patient care along the way. Ella, as
- 1:28Speaker 4: she likes to go by, is widely recognized for her
- 1:31Speaker 4: dedication to clinical excellence, professional growth, and advancing the technician profession.
- 1:36Speaker 4: Her leadership and influence were recently recognized with a nomination
- 1:42Speaker 4: as one of the top fifty most Influential Leaders in Pharmacy,
- 1:46Speaker 4: which is an incredible accomplishment. We're going to dive into
- 1:49Speaker 4: that today. She also holds an associates degree in nursing,
- 1:54Speaker 4: which is a background that helps fuel her deep passion
- 1:56Speaker 4: for patient advocacy and community health pharmacy. Ella is actively
- 2:01Speaker 4: involved in volunteer work and service led initiatives, which is
- 2:05Speaker 4: a passion that she shares with her family of four. Ella,
- 2:09Speaker 4: we are so excited to have you on the podcast.
- 2:13Speaker 4: Welcome to the show.
- 2:15Speaker 3: Hi, Sumi, thank you for having me. I'm so nervous,
- 2:19Speaker 3: but I'm very, very happy to be invited here. So
- 2:23Speaker 3: thank you, Thank you for the whole team.
- 2:25Speaker 4: You have nothing to be nervous about. Truth is. I
- 2:29Speaker 4: was nervous with that last name and we're going we're
- 2:32Speaker 4: going to break the fourth wall here. It took me
- 2:34Speaker 4: more than one take, so I'm just excited that I
- 2:39Speaker 4: got your name right, but super excited to have you
- 2:43Speaker 4: here today. There's a lot that I want to dig into,
- 2:47Speaker 4: but I do want to kind of put a little
- 2:48Speaker 4: tease out there for the audience. We're going to be
- 2:51Speaker 4: announcing something at the end of this episode that's really
- 2:55Speaker 4: really exciting and connects with the topics we're gonna be
- 3:00Speaker 4: talking about today. So make sure you stay tuned through
- 3:04Speaker 4: the whole episode because you're not going to want to
- 3:05Speaker 4: miss that for sure. Let's start from the beginning. Hello,
- 3:10Speaker 4: So I understand you you also were a nurse, and.
- 3:15Speaker 3: Well, I graduate nursing in the Philippines, but I couldn't
- 3:18Speaker 3: transfer it back here in the US unless I go
- 3:21Speaker 3: back to school. Oh so I find a way to
- 3:25Speaker 3: still work at the hospital and work my way up,
- 3:28Speaker 3: get the experience and all that. So okay.
- 3:32Speaker 4: So you're originally from the Philippines.
- 3:34Speaker 3: Yes, I was born in the Philippines and I grew
- 3:36Speaker 3: up in Hawaii.
- 3:37Speaker 4: Oh wow, fantastic. Yes, two very nice tropical locations. And
- 3:43Speaker 4: now you're in a desert.
- 3:45Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, all the heat, all the sudden still.
- 3:49Speaker 4: Lots of heat, but of none of the tropical parts
- 3:53Speaker 4: of that. So okay. So you were nurse trained as
- 3:55Speaker 4: a nurse in the Philippines and came here and made
- 3:58Speaker 4: that transition to to pharmacy. What was that like, making
- 4:03Speaker 4: making the move over and then doing a kind of
- 4:05Speaker 4: a career transition with that.
- 4:08Speaker 3: Let me see, well, it's very hard because the knowledge
- 4:13Speaker 3: and skills that I have is nursing. So me working
- 4:17Speaker 3: in a hospital setting, medical setting, it's kind of hard
- 4:20Speaker 3: to dial back to like, oops, I can't say this,
- 4:22Speaker 3: Oops I can do I can't do this. That's one
- 4:25Speaker 3: of my biggest problems, I guess. But and time I
- 4:31Speaker 3: got used to it, you know, like I still use
- 4:34Speaker 3: it very a lot, my knowledge, my skills in every settings.
- 4:38Speaker 3: But then I always remind myself, like a Ella dial back,
- 4:41Speaker 3: you're not a nurse, You're not you're not licensing the US,
- 4:44Speaker 3: you're not practicing it.
- 4:45Speaker 4: So yeah, that that actually happens quite a bit. I
- 4:51Speaker 4: know a lot at two different angles. We've got a
- 4:54Speaker 4: lot of technicians that are from overseas and you know
- 5:00Speaker 4: they have a degree, some have a degree in nursing.
- 5:03Speaker 4: We have some that were physicians or pharmacists in other countries. Yes, yes,
- 5:09Speaker 4: and the regulations and licensing doesn't fully match up, and
- 5:12Speaker 4: so you know they end up working as a pharmacy technician.
- 5:17Speaker 4: But also just with US residents, there's a lot of
- 5:21Speaker 4: overlap between individuals that are going to nursing and then
- 5:27Speaker 4: make the switch to pharmacy, and then there's a lot
- 5:29Speaker 4: of technicians in pharmacy that decide to make the switch
- 5:33Speaker 4: and go into nursing.
- 5:34Speaker 3: It.
- 5:34Speaker 4: There's a lot of back and forth between that. I
- 5:37Speaker 4: guess it really depends on how comfortable you are with
- 5:43Speaker 4: really being hands on, because nurses deal with so much
- 5:46Speaker 4: more of direct patient you know, contact. Then yes, so
- 5:51Speaker 4: which do you prefer being on the pharmacy side and
- 5:54Speaker 4: not dealing with that or is that part something you miss?
- 5:57Speaker 3: I do miss it a lot. I really love being
- 6:01Speaker 3: in the operating room. If I had a chance to
- 6:03Speaker 3: get my license here in the US, I would probably
- 6:06Speaker 3: focus on the operating room. Second was psychology. I do
- 6:11Speaker 3: miss it, But then pharmacy is in a different level too.
- 6:15Speaker 3: I love it also a different level of craziness fulfillment,
- 6:22Speaker 3: So I will take both, to be honest, if I
- 6:25Speaker 3: had a chance, I'll probably still work where I'm at. Yeah,
- 6:29Speaker 3: that's how much I love it.
- 6:30Speaker 4: What is pharmacy like in the Philippines.
- 6:35Speaker 3: But just very very different. We have a lot of
- 6:41Speaker 3: different small pharmacy and they're actually My cousin in the
- 6:46Speaker 3: Philippines is a pharmacist. He also has a small pharmacy
- 6:53Speaker 3: over there right now where they can sell like tyl
- 6:57Speaker 3: and all and all of those different otis and stuff
- 7:00Speaker 3: like that. And it's different, I would say different. I
- 7:03Speaker 3: haven't been there for like fourteen years, but before it
- 7:06Speaker 3: was not a lot of pharmacy. Now there's like a
- 7:09Speaker 3: lot of them in different corners. You know, there's big
- 7:13Speaker 3: ones and there's you know, like small ones personal own
- 7:17Speaker 3: businesses and stuff like that. So very very different.
- 7:22Speaker 4: Very interesting. Yeah, So when you decided to make that
- 7:28Speaker 4: transition into pharmacy, were there any other positions or like,
- 7:34Speaker 4: were you deciding between something else in pharmacy or was
- 7:38Speaker 4: pharmacy your primary go to.
- 7:41Speaker 3: Well, when I was before pharmacy, I was in a
- 7:44Speaker 3: rehab place. I was a rehab aid, so I will
- 7:48Speaker 3: take care patients, do their range of emotion, bring them
- 7:52Speaker 3: to the gym and all of that. And it's also
- 7:55Speaker 3: due during like COVID, so it was a lot. It
- 8:01Speaker 3: was a lot of shock for all of the staff,
- 8:03Speaker 3: to be honest, and for me personally, it was a
- 8:07Speaker 3: lot to take in. There's a lot of patient and
- 8:10Speaker 3: there's a lot of things going on during COVID. So
- 8:14Speaker 3: towards the tail end, I started to like find a
- 8:18Speaker 3: different job to like just lay low a little bit,
- 8:21Speaker 3: give myself a little break. And when I was looking indeed,
- 8:25Speaker 3: I saw a retail pharmacy and I was like, oh,
- 8:28Speaker 3: pharmacy technician. So I'm like, okay, let me apply and
- 8:33Speaker 3: see if I can get into it. So I got
- 8:37Speaker 3: an interviewed, I got hired. I hugged a little bit
- 8:41Speaker 3: about the hourly. They tried to offer me a little
- 8:45Speaker 3: bit low, and I'm like, I asked two dollars more.
- 8:48Speaker 3: I got it. Yes. When they offered me the offer letter,
- 8:55Speaker 3: I was like, really, this is very low. Let's be honest,
- 9:01Speaker 3: very low. Even though I don't even I haven't worked
- 9:04Speaker 3: in the pharmacy world yet, I believe that it was
- 9:07Speaker 3: very low. So I said, okay, let me see if
- 9:09Speaker 3: I can ask for two dollars more, you know. And
- 9:14Speaker 3: after like a month or so, I got it. I
- 9:16Speaker 3: took the job, and I actually work in five top
- 9:22Speaker 3: five most busy at pharmacy, retal pharmacy within the region,
- 9:28Speaker 3: so we're very very busy. We're small, but very busy.
- 9:32Speaker 3: From there, I worked to be an immunisation specialist. First
- 9:39Speaker 3: work my hours to be an immunization I focused mostly
- 9:43Speaker 3: on immunization and COVID testing because like I said, it's
- 9:46Speaker 3: still in the tail end of it. So that was
- 9:48Speaker 3: mainly what I have been focusing on. So I kind
- 9:54Speaker 3: of didn't learn how to do a lot of the
- 9:56Speaker 3: prior authorization and all the other works because I got
- 9:59Speaker 3: stuck on it. Okay, but but yeah, that's where all
- 10:04Speaker 3: mainly my career happened.
- 10:05Speaker 5: Is that.
- 10:07Speaker 3: But rehab, anything, hospital, unicleric, anything that I can work
- 10:12Speaker 3: with patient, I will apply for.
- 10:14Speaker 4: So I know, I know our audience is probably trying
- 10:18Speaker 4: to know more about the negotiating the set, So I
- 10:22Speaker 4: want to I want to stop there for a second, Okay,
- 10:26Speaker 4: and we're not we're not going to mention any specific
- 10:28Speaker 4: employer names.
- 10:29Speaker 3: Or yeah of course.
- 10:30Speaker 4: Yeah. But so this was at a retail pharmacy, was
- 10:33Speaker 4: it was it a chain or was it an independent?
- 10:37Speaker 3: It's a big chain.
- 10:38Speaker 4: It's a big change, Okay, So this is important. I
- 10:42Speaker 4: suspect that most of our listeners don't realize that salary
- 10:48Speaker 4: is negotiable, you know, especially when they're dealing with larger
- 10:52Speaker 4: organizations or chains or anything like that, because oftentimes it
- 10:56Speaker 4: gets presented it's like, well, here's this is what we
- 10:58Speaker 4: pay to take it or leave it kind of situation.
- 11:01Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that it's always negotiable, yes, but
- 11:06Speaker 4: I think that's the assumption and or I think a
- 11:12Speaker 4: lot of times we shortchange ourselves and think, oh, well,
- 11:16Speaker 4: that's what they offered, so like, I may be miserable,
- 11:20Speaker 4: but that's what I'm going to take. They don't. They
- 11:23Speaker 4: don't want to take the chance of maybe not receiving
- 11:27Speaker 4: the offer by asking for a higher salary. So that's
- 11:36Speaker 4: that's what was it about that process that gave you
- 11:41Speaker 4: the confidence or the courage to negotiate that situation right
- 11:48Speaker 4: from the beginning.
- 11:49Speaker 3: Well, as you know, I have a nursing background, so
- 11:52Speaker 3: I thought that this amount is very low for the
- 11:56Speaker 3: knowledge that will print to the table. You know, I
- 11:59Speaker 3: don't want to be but I mean, I don't have
- 12:02Speaker 3: to learn the medications because I know them. I also
- 12:06Speaker 3: don't need to learn what it's it for dosing wise
- 12:09Speaker 3: and all of that because I know it. So I
- 12:12Speaker 3: felt like this amount is very low, and it was
- 12:15Speaker 3: actually just a big leap of asking, like I want
- 12:19Speaker 3: two dollars more than what you're offering me. That's why
- 12:22Speaker 3: it took a little while for me to get on
- 12:24Speaker 3: boarding because they said, oh, we'll see if we can
- 12:27Speaker 3: even do that. So when they was like, okay, we'll
- 12:32Speaker 3: give it to you, in the back of my head,
- 12:34Speaker 3: I wish I asked for more because I'm not because
- 12:41Speaker 3: of the work that we had to do. If I
- 12:44Speaker 3: knew it was like that, I would have asked for more.
- 12:47Speaker 3: But two dollars asking above what they're offering me was
- 12:52Speaker 3: a big win.
- 12:53Speaker 4: To be honest, it's a that's a huge win, and
- 12:55Speaker 4: that's you know, amount of money that's that's going to
- 13:00Speaker 4: make a difference. And even if they had come back
- 13:02Speaker 4: and said we can't do two, but we could meet
- 13:05Speaker 4: you halfway.
- 13:06Speaker 3: Or yeah, it's still something.
- 13:08Speaker 4: Yeah, you you positioned, you positioned yourself for for that opportunity,
- 13:15Speaker 4: and based on your response there, it's you know your worth.
- 13:21Speaker 4: And that's a big thing that we talk about here.
- 13:24Speaker 4: It's one of the pillars of my career catalyst framework
- 13:27Speaker 4: that I teach technicians, and it's you've got to know
- 13:30Speaker 4: your worth and you've got to know where to set
- 13:33Speaker 4: boundaries of what you'll accept for your worth. So huge
- 13:37Speaker 4: kudos to you on that and for those of you
- 13:41Speaker 4: that are listening, you know, consider that when you're when
- 13:43Speaker 4: you're going through your views or whatever, don't be afraid
- 13:46Speaker 4: to ask. The worst thing that can be said is no, yeah,
- 13:51Speaker 4: so okay, let's let's continue on. But I didn't want
- 13:54Speaker 4: to brush over that. I know the audience wanted to
- 13:59Speaker 4: hear that part. So you get into retail, it's COVID
- 14:03Speaker 4: things are crazy. You're on one of the busiest stores
- 14:06Speaker 4: going on. How long did you stay in that role
- 14:10Speaker 4: at that organization.
- 14:12Speaker 3: I've been with them for three and a half years,
- 14:17Speaker 3: two years for full time, half year part time, and
- 14:21Speaker 3: then half year prettym so they my boss was awesome
- 14:26Speaker 3: and when I quit, it was like, how about you
- 14:30Speaker 3: just do part time or and then he offered me
- 14:32Speaker 3: how about prettium when I had my kid? And then
- 14:35Speaker 3: fully I left.
- 14:38Speaker 4: So yeah, they also knew your value. They knew you
- 14:42Speaker 4: were worth too. They were like, We'll take any days
- 14:45Speaker 4: we can get with you.
- 14:46Speaker 3: I'm that person that when they say can you come
- 14:48Speaker 3: in early or can you come in your shift? I
- 14:50Speaker 3: would always say yes. I'm such like I I don't
- 14:55Speaker 3: say no to work or schedules. And also during those times,
- 14:58Speaker 3: I was also working other places, so I had like
- 15:02Speaker 3: three jobs that I was working. So I love it.
- 15:07Speaker 4: And can you have how many children?
- 15:10Speaker 3: I have two, one is about to be thirteen, and
- 15:13Speaker 3: I have my one year old.
- 15:14Speaker 4: Oh wow, that's a big that's a that's a big split.
- 15:19Speaker 3: Yes it is.
- 15:20Speaker 4: That's a that's several full time jobs going on right,
- 15:24Speaker 4: a teenager and a newborn. Wow. So but you transition
- 15:29Speaker 4: from there to what was your next full time role?
- 15:37Speaker 5: Hey, they're pharmacy technicians. Mike Johnston here the founder of
- 15:41Speaker 5: NPTA and vpts. For over twenty five years. I've helped
- 15:46Speaker 5: thousands of techs grow their careers, and now I want
- 15:49Speaker 5: to help you. I've built a free online community where
- 15:53Speaker 5: you get instant access to my top on demand trainings,
- 15:57Speaker 5: including the Career Catalyst Framework, Know your Work, Leveraging, LinkedIn.
- 16:01Speaker 4: And more.
- 16:02Speaker 5: So, if you're ready to take the next step, join
- 16:05Speaker 5: the community now at Rxmike dot com and start moving
- 16:09Speaker 5: your career forward, which is where I am currently.
- 16:18Speaker 3: So while I was at that retail, I was like
- 16:21Speaker 3: looking to like I said, further like my career, what
- 16:25Speaker 3: else can I do? Or just made just exploring like,
- 16:28Speaker 3: oh what else can my title hold besides retail? So
- 16:34Speaker 3: I saw this listing again indeed, I took my chances.
- 16:39Speaker 3: I got interviewed. My boss is phenomenal. She is the
- 16:45Speaker 3: best of the best. She interviewed me. I told her like, hey,
- 16:50Speaker 3: just so you know, I don't know prior authorization. I
- 16:54Speaker 3: didn't get a chance to readly train. I got stuck
- 16:56Speaker 3: with doing COVID testing and doing you know, immunization. She
- 17:02Speaker 3: was like, you're fine, and I thought I'm not going
- 17:04Speaker 3: to get it because I was like, oh, during those times,
- 17:07Speaker 3: I'm still working on the CPHD. So after the interview,
- 17:14Speaker 3: she gave me a couple of days and she called
- 17:16Speaker 3: and like you're hired. I was like, I was super surprised.
- 17:20Speaker 3: I'm like super excited. I'm like, oh my god, this
- 17:23Speaker 3: is something new. It's for a good cost, that's the
- 17:27Speaker 3: main thing. And from there I'm with this pharmacina for
- 17:34Speaker 3: three years, so also the same thing, like two years
- 17:39Speaker 3: full time in the one year as part time per DM.
- 17:42Speaker 3: Due to my baby, I had to like step down
- 17:47Speaker 3: because I don't want him to go to daycare. So
- 17:49Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, maybe per DM and then maybe
- 17:53Speaker 3: when I'm ready to come back full time and there's
- 17:55Speaker 3: a spot that maybe you can, you know, have me back.
- 17:59Speaker 3: So my boss just kept me. She kept me. I
- 18:01Speaker 3: actually try to quit because I don't want her to
- 18:04Speaker 3: rearrange scheduling. I don't want to bother her and the company.
- 18:08Speaker 3: But she was like, no, I'll put you prettyum. So
- 18:11Speaker 3: until now, I'm still there and hope being that one
- 18:14Speaker 3: day I can go back full time because I really
- 18:16Speaker 3: really love what I do.
- 18:18Speaker 4: So what advice would you give to the technicians that
- 18:23Speaker 4: are out there that feel stuck. They don't love their job,
- 18:30Speaker 4: they don't love their posts, they don't feel like they're
- 18:34Speaker 4: getting paid what they're worth, but they stay there because
- 18:37Speaker 4: they think that's their only option. What do you say
- 18:42Speaker 4: to them?
- 18:43Speaker 3: I would say, do research. Do a lot of research,
- 18:47Speaker 3: especially within your city, like oh, what group is within
- 18:51Speaker 3: the city that assists pharmacy texts and pharmacists? And just
- 18:56Speaker 3: find people like you on social media. It's a hit
- 19:01Speaker 3: or miss. Not everyone is a good person to be following,
- 19:04Speaker 3: you know, but there's people out there. Do your research
- 19:09Speaker 3: and also better yourself, like studying, Like if you're applying
- 19:14Speaker 3: to some place, like study them, study what they do,
- 19:17Speaker 3: you know, Like, get at least one step ahead of
- 19:21Speaker 3: whatever that place is asking for looking for you know,
- 19:27Speaker 3: you can't be stuck. Like there's always somewhere you can go.
- 19:31Speaker 3: There's always somewhere you can move. So and you're right,
- 19:34Speaker 3: Like a lot of people think like, oh, I can't
- 19:36Speaker 3: go anywhere else because I'm not CPHD Advanced, or I'm
- 19:41Speaker 3: I don't have all the other titles and badge that's
- 19:43Speaker 3: on my license, But there is. There's so many ways
- 19:48Speaker 3: that you can expand technicians. You know, you shouldn't feel
- 19:53Speaker 3: stuck because there's so many things that you can do.
- 19:57Speaker 3: And to be honest, I thought I was just stuck
- 19:59Speaker 3: in retail too, you know, let's be honest. But then
- 20:02Speaker 3: I was like, you know, let me search. What else
- 20:04Speaker 3: can a technician do? You know? You can be an instructor,
- 20:08Speaker 3: you can be a dean, you know you can. You
- 20:10Speaker 3: can be part of a group that fights legislative stuff
- 20:14Speaker 3: for US technicians and pharmacists and pharmacy as a whole.
- 20:18Speaker 3: You know, but you also have to advocate for yourself
- 20:21Speaker 3: Number one. I always tell people it's like a broken record,
- 20:25Speaker 3: like advocate for yourself. Search, research, study, more, read, read,
- 20:30Speaker 3: you know, find all this literature what's coming. Because I
- 20:33Speaker 3: think I believe medical will never stop you will never
- 20:37Speaker 3: stop learning, so you always have to like keep reading,
- 20:39Speaker 3: reading what's coming out there, so don't feel stuck, buying
- 20:44Speaker 3: the right people to ask questions that can help you
- 20:47Speaker 3: and study, study, study.
- 20:51Speaker 4: So if you're out there and you feel stuck, I
- 20:55Speaker 4: hope you're taking notes. You can pause the show right
- 20:58Speaker 4: now and go back and write down those steps, because
- 21:02Speaker 4: that's what it is. It's you took action. You took
- 21:06Speaker 4: control of your career path. You did not turn it
- 21:11Speaker 4: over to somebody else to tell you where you could go.
- 21:15Speaker 4: So I love that, and that segues right into the
- 21:20Speaker 4: next part I want to talk to you about. You
- 21:24Speaker 4: recently were nominated and selected in the Pharmacy Podcast Network's
- 21:32Speaker 4: Top fifty most Influential Leaders in Pharmacy. So, first of all,
- 21:37Speaker 4: congratulations greatly on.
- 21:41Speaker 3: That to you as well.
- 21:43Speaker 4: Thank you, I appreciate that.
- 21:46Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 21:47Speaker 4: See, the interesting thing was, I think this is like
- 21:51Speaker 4: their fourth year of having this award program, and last
- 21:58Speaker 4: year I was, you know, very blessed to make to
- 22:06Speaker 4: make that list, and it was the first time a
- 22:08Speaker 4: technician had made the list, and that was a really
- 22:10Speaker 4: really good deal. Yes, And this year, you know, we
- 22:15Speaker 4: were supporting the awards program again and you know, encouraging
- 22:20Speaker 4: people to nominate other technicians because my position was I
- 22:26Speaker 4: wanted to see I wanted to make sure that there
- 22:29Speaker 4: was going to be more technicians on that list because
- 22:32Speaker 4: technicians are so influential in pharmacy. And to my surprise,
- 22:39Speaker 4: I made it again. But more importantly, there were two
- 22:42Speaker 4: other technicians in that top fifty list, yourself as well
- 22:48Speaker 4: as Emily Duram. She's been on the podcast as well.
- 22:53Speaker 4: Super impressive technician, and that just made me so happy
- 23:04Speaker 4: that technicians are starting ticking more recognition and having that
- 23:11Speaker 4: spotlight put on them. So tell me about that process.
- 23:15Speaker 4: When did you find out? What was your reaction? We'll
- 23:21Speaker 4: talk us walk us through that.
- 23:23Speaker 3: Also, I thought, to be honest, I thought it was
- 23:25Speaker 3: fake when Sir Todd messaged me through LinkedIn stating like, hey, congratulations,
- 23:33Speaker 3: you got into the top fifty, but you can't disclose
- 23:37Speaker 3: it yet until the initial you know date, And I
- 23:41Speaker 3: was like, man, this is this is fake. This is
- 23:44Speaker 3: not real. I told I told my boss and like,
- 23:46Speaker 3: I think this is fake. But at the same time,
- 23:48Speaker 3: part of me was like super happy and excited and
- 23:51Speaker 3: the sixteen So I didn't respond to him after two
- 23:54Speaker 3: days that he messaged me because I really thought it
- 23:56Speaker 3: was not real. Todd, but I just I mean, top
- 24:00Speaker 3: fifty influential number one, I'm not I'm not an influencer.
- 24:04Speaker 3: I'm not famous. I'm not known, So I'm like, how
- 24:08Speaker 3: did I get in? So I thought it was fake.
- 24:12Speaker 3: But then when the sixteen I think when it launched,
- 24:15Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, my photo's there. I
- 24:18Speaker 3: even put the wrong photo. I feel like it's not
- 24:20Speaker 3: the right photo. I'm like, oh no, because I only
- 24:23Speaker 3: share that link when it opened on November last year twice,
- 24:27Speaker 3: one in LinkedIn and one on my social media, and
- 24:29Speaker 3: that was November, and I was like, after that, I
- 24:32Speaker 3: forgot about it because I was thinking, like, I will
- 24:35Speaker 3: never get in. That's such a bad mentality. The only
- 24:38Speaker 3: reason why because I said, like, there's so much people
- 24:41Speaker 3: that I follow on Instagram. They're influencers, you know, they're famous,
- 24:45Speaker 3: they have a lot of followers, they're doing all this
- 24:47Speaker 3: videos and I'm not like that. I'm I'm not shy,
- 24:52Speaker 3: but then I'm shy when it comes to something like oh,
- 24:54Speaker 3: this is what we do in the pharmacy. I think
- 24:57Speaker 3: I can't do that. So I felt like it's not
- 25:00Speaker 3: not real. But then at the same time, when the
- 25:03Speaker 3: date came and I was top forty five, I was like,
- 25:07Speaker 3: oh my god, I made it? Is this real? And how?
- 25:12Speaker 3: But super excited to.
- 25:14Speaker 4: Everybody that you work with if they voted for like,
- 25:17Speaker 4: how how it all came to be.
- 25:20Speaker 3: To be honest, I told some of the doctors that
- 25:22Speaker 3: are because of our doctors are very very awesome and
- 25:24Speaker 3: nice and we're friends on LinkedIn as well. Maybe one
- 25:27Speaker 3: of them slipped one, I told my boss. But to
- 25:34Speaker 3: be honest, whoever did it, thank you, thank you for
- 25:38Speaker 3: giving this small shed of light to a technician like
- 25:42Speaker 3: me that I is not an influencer or known in
- 25:45Speaker 3: famous like sir Mike. So thank you. But yeah, I
- 25:49Speaker 3: thought it was fake and I was like, no, this
- 25:50Speaker 3: is not real. So but now you make it more
- 25:54Speaker 3: surreal on top of it. So thank you.
- 25:57Speaker 4: Absolutely. As soon as that list came out, I said,
- 26:00Speaker 4: I want both of these other technicians on the podcast again.
- 26:06Speaker 4: We want we want to continue to put a spotlight
- 26:10Speaker 4: on that the reality is it's like this self fulfilling
- 26:14Speaker 4: prophecy or whatever. Because while you may not have felt
- 26:18Speaker 4: like you were an influencer per se, now your story
- 26:23Speaker 4: is reaching you know, thousands of technicians and pharmacists, and
- 26:29Speaker 4: it is going to inspire them. It is going to
- 26:32Speaker 4: influence them. It's going to give them the courage to
- 26:36Speaker 4: speak up for themselves with negotiating their salaries and to
- 26:42Speaker 4: you know, be an advocate for themselves. So I hope,
- 26:46Speaker 4: I hope you're able to see how this is all
- 26:48Speaker 4: coming full full circle for you. But I certainly understand
- 26:55Speaker 4: as well as anybody questioning it at first. I mean,
- 26:58Speaker 4: I still deal with imposter syndrome, you know, they call it.
- 27:02Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't, I don't know what this is
- 27:04Speaker 4: all about. But congratulations. I mean, that's a huge achievement,
- 27:11Speaker 4: and I think now your story is just going to
- 27:14Speaker 4: continue to ripple out and inspire others. Yes, you know,
- 27:21Speaker 4: and speaking of that, I want to kind of go ahead,
- 27:26Speaker 4: if it's okay with you, and enjoy this announcement with everybody.
- 27:31Speaker 3: I'm excited. What is this? What do you have cooking?
- 27:34Speaker 3: Sir Mike.
- 27:35Speaker 4: So it was actually, you know, kind of that whole
- 27:40Speaker 4: award process and seeing more technicians get added to the
- 27:44Speaker 4: list this year and being so excited about that. We
- 27:49Speaker 4: were having some conversations with the team at MPTA and
- 27:52Speaker 4: we said, you know what, we want to take our influence,
- 27:56Speaker 4: whatever that is deemed, and put a bigger spotlight on
- 28:01Speaker 4: the impact, the real impact that technicians make. And so
- 28:06Speaker 4: we are so excited to announce we are launching an
- 28:11Speaker 4: International Pharmacy Technician Impact Awards program. Wow, yeah, this is.
- 28:22Speaker 3: What did you say, sir? For pharmacy technicians.
- 28:25Speaker 4: Just for pharmacy technicians. We're going to have seven different
- 28:31Speaker 4: categories that technicians can be nominated in. But we're specifically
- 28:38Speaker 4: we're not looking for influencer. We're looking for technicians that
- 28:43Speaker 4: are making an impact. So whether you're making a measurement
- 28:48Speaker 4: behind the scene impact, you're making impact with your patients,
- 28:52Speaker 4: with your community, with your co workers, with your employer,
- 28:57Speaker 4: we want to put a huge that and so we
- 29:03Speaker 4: are going to have categories for community pharmacy technicians, health
- 29:11Speaker 4: system pharmacy technicians, Education and training, compounding, patient care and
- 29:19Speaker 4: medication access, innovation and technology, and then in leadership. So
- 29:25Speaker 4: whatever your role is as a pharmacy technician, you know
- 29:30Speaker 4: the fact is you are making measurable contributions and making
- 29:35Speaker 4: it impact and so we want to recognize that and
- 29:39Speaker 4: celebrate that. So nominations are going to be open. We'll
- 29:43Speaker 4: put a link in the show notes as well. But
- 29:46Speaker 4: I believe the web borl is going to be cpht
- 29:49Speaker 4: dot org Forward Slash Awards, So it's going to be
- 29:52Speaker 4: open nominations. You don't have to be a member of NPTA,
- 29:55Speaker 4: you don't have to be in the US, it can
- 29:56Speaker 4: be anywhere in the world. Have a committee that's going
- 30:01Speaker 4: to select three finalists per category, and then later this
- 30:08Speaker 4: year those will be announced. We're going to share all
- 30:10Speaker 4: of their stories and then we'll have open voting, and
- 30:15Speaker 4: then we're going to announce the winners live on World
- 30:20Speaker 4: Pharmacy Technician Day on October twentyth.
- 30:23Speaker 3: So, oh wow, that is big. That is very, very
- 30:27Speaker 3: big for the pharmacy technician community. So thank you, Sermke.
- 30:31Speaker 3: That's such a great announcement.
- 30:34Speaker 4: But thank you because you literally helped influence this. Okay,
- 30:39Speaker 4: So you are one of the most influential because when
- 30:41Speaker 4: we saw more technicians starting to get recognized, we said,
- 30:45Speaker 4: we've got to take this up even another notch and
- 30:49Speaker 4: really create stories and a spotlight about the value and
- 30:54Speaker 4: contributions of technicians. So you are directly one of one
- 30:59Speaker 4: of the reasons why we're doing this, So congratulations to
- 31:03Speaker 4: you and we want to continue this. So go online
- 31:08Speaker 4: to the website, do a nomination. You can nominate yourself.
- 31:11Speaker 4: You don't have to you don't have to wait for
- 31:13Speaker 4: anybody else to do it. Just like you said, be
- 31:15Speaker 4: your own advocate. There is nothing wrong with nominating yourself.
- 31:19Speaker 4: We encourage that. So whether it's you nominate yourself, you
- 31:24Speaker 4: nominate somebody else, make sure and get the nominations in.
- 31:27Speaker 4: I think nominations are going to be open through the
- 31:31Speaker 4: end of April, I believe, so check that out.
- 31:35Speaker 3: And yes, oh my god, so excited. I'm very excited.
- 31:41Speaker 3: This is something very big for us technicians. Is just
- 31:47Speaker 3: because because actually I went to one of a school
- 31:51Speaker 3: local here and did a little talk to do just
- 31:54Speaker 3: a show and tell them what I do and stuff
- 31:57Speaker 3: like that, and one of their professors was like, we
- 32:01Speaker 3: were talking about we should make our own little group
- 32:05Speaker 3: that focus on us technicians only. And don't get me wrong,
- 32:10Speaker 3: we love that we're being included in all of the
- 32:13Speaker 3: other groups with the pharmacists. We are very honored, let's
- 32:16Speaker 3: be honest. But then sometimes we feel like we need
- 32:19Speaker 3: our own little pharmacy technician Haven. So thank you for
- 32:23Speaker 3: Mike for being that bridge. This is this is very big.
- 32:26Speaker 3: So thank you because we were just talking about it
- 32:29Speaker 3: a couple of months ago and here you are launching
- 32:32Speaker 3: it so doing it. Yes, So thank you, Thank you
- 32:36Speaker 3: so much.
- 32:37Speaker 4: Absolutely well, Ella, thank you so much for joining us
- 32:43Speaker 4: today and sharing your story. I think I think your
- 32:47Speaker 4: story is going to inspire a lot of people out there,
- 32:51Speaker 4: and so thank you for taking the time to do
- 32:55Speaker 4: that and and opening up with everyone. We really, we
- 32:59Speaker 4: really appreciate it.
- 33:01Speaker 3: Thank you so much, sir Mike. Hopefully to see you
- 33:04Speaker 3: in person one day.
- 33:05Speaker 4: Absolutely well, thanks for tuning in to today's episode. We
- 33:10Speaker 4: hope you found it both informative and inspiring. For links,
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- 33:32Speaker 4: we chat with another amazing pharmacy professional and hear about
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