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Anchoring into Higher Ideas with Daniel John Hanneman · Reclaiming Consciousness

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  SPEAKER_01: I've had quite a journey with money.
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  SPEAKER_01: I've definitely uh been in uh tremendous, you know, deficit modes financially and stuff.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then I've had the other experience because it's very fascinating to me, this money thing, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: I went through all those sorts of scenarios, like every all the sort of scenarios, never declared a bankruptcy and all that, but only worse because I didn't get the relief of bankruptcy.
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  SPEAKER_01: We can't be afraid of this idea of playing with something that isn't even real ultimately, anyway.
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  SPEAKER_01: Money could be the best thing ever, could be the best amplifier of good ever on the planet.
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  SPEAKER_01: It can be that as long as we decide it to be so.
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  SPEAKER_02: Welcome to Reclaiming Consciousness.
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  SPEAKER_02: My name is Elise Bassine, spiritual mentor, breastwork practitioner, and owner and CEO of Elise Breeds.
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  SPEAKER_02: For many years, our consciousness has been hijacked by societal and cultural programming, religion, the media, and familial and ancestral trauma.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right now, during this epic time in history, people are waking up, realizing who they really are, and reclaiming the pieces of their consciousness that they unknowingly gave away.
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  SPEAKER_02: So many spectacular humans are leading the way in exiting the future and reclaiming who they really are and what they're capable of.
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  SPEAKER_02: In this show, you'll meet exceptional people who are paving the way in raising consciousness and creating a new way of living on the earth.
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  SPEAKER_02: Get ready to go deep.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now let's dive in.
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  SPEAKER_02: Hi everyone, welcome back to the show.
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  SPEAKER_02: So this week's guest is Daniel Haneman, and he has such an amazing, powerful energy.
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  SPEAKER_02: He's a super talented and gifted healer.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, I actually have had a couple sessions with him, which completely shifted things for me in a big way.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I really think you're gonna enjoy him.
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  SPEAKER_02: He has such a cool vibe.
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  SPEAKER_02: He definitely has some kind of spiritual teacher, past life soul vibe thing going on where you can just tell he has the ability to really shift your perspective and inspire you.
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  SPEAKER_02: And um I think you're really gonna enjoy our conversation.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm also gonna be on his podcast, and it actually already launched.
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  SPEAKER_02: His podcast is called Spiritual Rockstar.
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  SPEAKER_02: Definitely check out my episode on his podcast as well.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then as far as announcements go, I have quantum mastery starting on January 31st.
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  SPEAKER_02: And this is an eight-week program where it's eight weeks of group calls, plus you get two private calls with me.
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  SPEAKER_02: And this is all about mastering the quantum field, you guys.
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  SPEAKER_02: And this is something that I have grown to become so passionate about because I realize that if you know how to work with energy and you know how to work in the quantum, everything else becomes easy.
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  SPEAKER_02: Your manifestations, your abundance, your business, your career, your relationships, it all starts with energy.
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  SPEAKER_02: So mastering this, mastering working in the quantum field and mastering your own energy is the root of everything else.
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  SPEAKER_02: And you guys know how I'm obsessed with getting to the root of everything, and energy is the root of everything.
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  SPEAKER_02: So in this program, I'm gonna be showing you how to master that.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I'm gonna be working with you in real time to show you how to shift your energy when it comes to the things that are going on in your life so that you can get a different result.
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  SPEAKER_02: And usually it happens instantaneously.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it's gonna be really fun, really powerful.
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  SPEAKER_02: Expect huge transformation and huge shifts in a short amount of time because that's what I'm all about.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um and that's gonna start on the 31st.
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  SPEAKER_02: So um we'll link that below or definitely reach out to me to get all the details to sign up.
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  SPEAKER_02: And also it's on my website as well.
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  SPEAKER_02: And oh, the retreat.
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  SPEAKER_02: The retreat is totally gonna be a vibe, a total next level thing.
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  SPEAKER_02: And you definitely want to reach out to me to sign up.
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  SPEAKER_02: We're going to Costa Rica, April 1 to 8.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's going to be yoga with my longtime friend and world-renowned yoga teacher Simon Park, and also a transformational journey with me, where we will guide you to completely shift and change your energy, remove any blocks so that you come home on a totally new level and being totally renewed and inspired to create what you want to create in the world.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, so you definitely will be returning a different person because you all know transformation is what I'm all about.
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  SPEAKER_02: We'll link that below or reach out to me.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's only a$525 deposit to hold your space, which is non-refundable.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I think that's it for now.
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  SPEAKER_02: Without further ado, enjoy the episode with Daniel.
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  SPEAKER_02: Hi, everyone.
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  SPEAKER_02: Welcome back to the show.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, today's guest, we have Daniel John Haneman with us, who has an extensive background as a professional counselor, hypnotherapist, and his uh backgrounds in energy scanning, energy clearing, spiritual life coaching, all of the things.
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  SPEAKER_02: And he also was highly recommended to me by my good friend Andrea Donnelly, who almost everyone here knows.
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  SPEAKER_02: And um, if she tells me that he's awesome, then I'm sure he's incredibly awesome.
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  SPEAKER_02: So welcome to the show.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hi, Elise.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm so grateful to be here with you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for having me.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm really excited to chat with you.
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  SPEAKER_02: When Andrea told me about you, I was like, oh my God, he sounds awesome.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I'd love to just hear a little bit of your story, just of like how you came into this work and just like what were some bigger pivotal moments for you to bring you to where you are now?
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, wow, that's a big question.
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  SPEAKER_02: I know, I know.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh uh what feels like a straightforward story, like, oh, there's this one moment, and then it all got into it.
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  SPEAKER_01: But um, for me, I would say uh I'm gonna look at the big picture.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm kind of deep in rambling, so at times, so just bear with me, everybody.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, when I was a kid, I was very, you know, uh more shy, awkward, introverted.
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  SPEAKER_01: Still am at times for sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: I still am more, you know, on the introverted side for sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: And um I just really felt like there's something not right in the world, you know, kind of thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: And but I did find some solace in like going to church, you know, I remember that, and sports and you know, certain things that had lit me up, of course.
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  SPEAKER_01: But my point is that I felt like a fish out of water, you know, which uh again is a common theme for a lot of us light workers.
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  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I went through a lot of feeling like, what is wrong with everybody and why I feel like I'm supposed to be doing something that I'm not doing as a kid, even like I it was there, you know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like this gnawing, like there's something not quite right.
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  SPEAKER_01: I remember in high school, I was very depressed and anxious, and I was like, I want to be a spiritual teacher, was like in the back of my consciousness.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like I didn't even know if that was real or where that was even coming from.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was so weird, right, to me at the time.
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  SPEAKER_01: But like, I want to do that and I want to do it a big way.
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  SPEAKER_01: And like that was in the back.
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  SPEAKER_01: I wasn't say consciously, but it was back in there.
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  SPEAKER_01: I could feel it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so I was doing a lot of journaling.
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  SPEAKER_01: I I was called Mr.
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  SPEAKER_01: Invisible in high school, just so like not about what was going on in my life, you know, like as a teenager.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was rebelling, right, as teenagers do, but for me it looked more like let's go ink someone's house, let's go do this, like not mischievous things, you know, not great things, so to speak.
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  SPEAKER_01: But I didn't know what to do.
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  SPEAKER_01: I felt like it's kind of my way of saying, screw all this at the time.
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  SPEAKER_01: So anyway, once I got through high school, barely got through it, I'd go in my last day of school to see if I graduate.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like that's because I just didn't care about school.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, okay, well, I'm gonna go to uh community college, I'll finally get serious about school.
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  SPEAKER_01: I guess that's what I'm supposed to do now.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh do creative writing, started uh getting into that, kind of good at it because I'm a channel, I as I know now, I'm a channel, so I just shh all kinds of cool stuff comes through.
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  SPEAKER_01: But uh as I got into University of Iowa and all that, I found like, okay, like I don't think I'm probably gonna make a lot of money doing this, especially back then, like the idea of making money in creative ways wasn't as prevalent as today, right?
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_01: Like now, even more than ever, like isn't a great thing in the world that's happening.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_01: Man, everything does seem increasingly possible with the internet.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I went into psychology and did that whole path.
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  SPEAKER_01: Then I got into uh co-calling and sales after that because you can't get a job with a bachelor's in psychology that's worthwhile in terms of financial, etc., or even doing what you really want to do.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, but I didn't want to keep going with school, I wanted a break from it.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, like, I gotta get it on my shell, you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, I gotta learn how to do the sales thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: I know it's gonna be important.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I did hundreds of cold calls a week, and I really enjoyed the sense of the challenge.
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  SPEAKER_01: My mom would always be like, Why are you doing that?
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, Because I've got to do this, this is important to my soul path, like basically is what I was saying.
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  SPEAKER_01: And uh, she's like, I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, you could do something that's you're more natural for, and you know, and this is not a story of my life with my mom.
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  SPEAKER_01: Why are you doing that?
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  SPEAKER_01: Why don't you do this, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, anyway, so did that, went back to got my master's though eventually.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, I was very persistent in sales, I was no natural salesperson.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, but I was very persistent.
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  SPEAKER_01: I did learn that I am naturally good at persuading people when I'm passionate about something.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was very passionate about I can persevere in this job, so they continued to employ me.
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  SPEAKER_01: That was the most thing I was absolutely convicted about.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that's what sells it, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: And so then I went back to school, got my master's in clinical psychology, where I was roundly persecuted for asking too many questions and not being interactive enough in sessions with people, like when they were monitoring sessions.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh whether you're doing or just listening, you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: As it turns out, research shows with therapy, especially like the people that listen the most are the most effective therapists.
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  SPEAKER_01: But somehow, yeah, and there's a green of salt of truth in whatever anybody says, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: So, but there's this whole thing you're way too passive, you're not too low-key.
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  SPEAKER_01: All kinds of things.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, bottom line is I was held back, even it was just like I was held back and told that I might not even be able to become a therapist by one of them.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, but one thing was noticed I'm amazing at assessment.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_01: I somehow know everything about these people, you know, and my classmates would come with to me about their case studies and everything, and I'd be like, why are you coming to me?
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_01: Some people just know things.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_01: You seem to be one of those people.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, oh, okay, cool.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_01: But I didn't make too much of it at the time.
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  SPEAKER_01: Then, you know, as we went, I went forward, I got uh fired for my first job out of getting my master's again, roundly persecuted because you know, idea I don't fit in, you know, you did things wrong, you know, like this was a theme of my life, you know.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_01: I I'm not even telling you all the stories, okay?
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_01: I won't go that far.
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  SPEAKER_01: Then I got into working in environments where people liked me, working with a chronically mentally ill and you know, in the right ways and everything.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_01: And then before you know it, I'm getting promoted, I'm making more money right away, and people are stealing me away from another organization.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_01: I'm fast-forwarding it all.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I just teaching a lot of it was not just uh really what I learned at school.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was like just listening and offering spiritual perspective, you know, coming from a bigger perspective than yeah, you know, you got your your illness and your meds, and yeah, we cut touch based on that stuff, but it was more like there's an infinite presence.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_01: Like I didn't even read the books on all this yet.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, we're in this deeper thing, and there's no problems right now, right?
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's how it always is.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_01: There's never any real problems.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_01: And and so they all resonated with that.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_01: They're like, you know what, you're right.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_01: And and I saw some shifts in these people, you know, over time.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_01: They're able to relax more, like, oh, it's okay, you know.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, so got into lots of things with metaphysics, became certified in that.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_01: I started realizing, man, I could command things, I can make things happen because that's what it's about, like law of attraction kind of mentality, but like law of like, I'll have it, you know, as we were stronger.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_01: And so that's how I manifested my soulmate wife and all these things, you know.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_01: I started seeing successes and confidence through the roof and become leader of uh churches and stuff.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_01: And people be like, Oh, he should be in the minister.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_01: He's so so strong in his energy, and you know, because when I get on stage on our live stage, especially, like I could really come to life in a way that's very strong sometimes.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_01: And people are like, he'd be packing them in.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_01: So started realizing, like, okay, great.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I want to go down this path.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_01: And I got online eventually after I did like I had gotten into hypnosis and all that, incorporated all those things.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_01: But I started just doing coaching online with people and helping them understand what their passions are.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm a facilitator of pat the passion tests, and then it clear, okay, just focus on your passions, clear your blocks, all this stuff.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_01: But what I start realizing is like I start getting in this energy scanning thing that I do that is what you know Andrea was talking about.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like I'm able to tune into people, but I was able to hone the gift with a technique to take it even deeper.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_01: And then that's where you know I started really getting lots of people saying, Whoa, this is so amazing and mind-blowing.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_01: And then uh started to grow my business as a healer and a coach uh online and learn some healing to a degree with metaphysics, and then just uh kind of naturally, other than that, I never took any classes, like I just kind of just naturally did my own thing.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_01: I guess quick classes, but no, like people do all these certifications.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't do that, right?
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_01: And I started making money finally when I started realizing like get badass around telling people like the truth and what's possible for them, and like they'll hold back on that.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we get into so many lies about how limited we are, and we get so oh man, we wouldn't want to tell a lie that there's more possible.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_01: Then what if it's not true and you're a crazy salesperson?
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, why do we want to guard against that?
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_01: Why don't we get crazier and talk about what's possible?
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_01: And so I started being more like that, and then I got really clear on money.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I need to get really clear on money.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, this is not a big deal.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_01: Come on, this is your life path.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_01: Let's go, let's have you work with me.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_01: And I realized I could help other people to do it.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm a really fast-forward story, built a multi-six-figure business, uh, helping other killers learn what I was doing with my scanning and clearing people and getting clients and all that went, you know, really well in one level.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_01: People were experiencing just uh a much better life and opening to their gifts and how profound that was and what they were able to do and get testimonials like I would get, whoa, this is amazing, you know.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_01: And but then there was a part of me that kind of was feeling like there was something missing in the business uh and in my past.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_01: So I let go of that.
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  SPEAKER_01: I created your sacred purpose.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_01: And now I'm really focused on helping people who are light leaders want to take things to the next level.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like either they're just starting off and after transitioning off of something they're successful with, uh, whether it was, you know, a business or a career, or they're already in a successful business as a light leader, but they know there's this next level and they're having a hard time getting that happening uh with their energy and strategically, or probably usually all of it.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, so no energy informs, of course, like, well, what are you doing strategically?
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_01: So we work on the energetics to get to this strategy.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then strategy we can you know work that out.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_01: And because of my channel, I've even been known to do copywriting and funnels for people at times, because if I I feel dedicated to the right person, like there's a lot of things I'll do for them, uh, as long as it's you know reasonably within my wheelhouse and I think I can do a good job, then we can do it.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_01: But um, so I do a lot of one-on-one lately.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I used to do I used to have you know group certifications and all that.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm getting ready where where this is where you come in, Elise.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you're amazing.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_01: I just got to know you, but I'm gonna be a channel, I'm gonna be a YouTube star, maybe, who knows?
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_01: You know, but I'm gonna be, I've been doing this channeling thing, like a straight voice channeling stuff for a long time.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_01: And that's another area where I get a big wow effect from people, the way the energy comes through.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_01: And uh start writing the books, start doing all the talking, speaking, and all the stuff I've always talked about doing, but never got to because I was building this internet business, doing that impact, and you know, taking care of my family with that as well.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_01: And now I'm ready for a whole nother level.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't know, I mean, I went way beyond uh answering your simple question, but uh, you know, that's what comes to mind.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_02: Well, thank you for sharing all that.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_02: And I do have a lot of questions just based on all the stuff you said.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_02: And I can relate so much to what you said, just with like the idea of um kind of knowing that you were supposed to be a spiritual teacher and then like do kind of doing that.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_02: Like I feel like I did that when I was a school counselor, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Like I didn't know where I was getting this information from or what I was telling people really, but it always helped them.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_02: And um, I was able to like give people this wider perspective or this higher perspective on things, even when I didn't realize I was doing it.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_02: So, like I totally relate to that so much because I feel like I had the same experience where it's like you kind of know that you're supposed to be doing this, but you don't really have words for it.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_02: And then obviously you get words for it as you keep going forward.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_02: So the first thing I want to know, or I'd love for you to go deeper into is just like your technique of energy scanning and like what that is and how that works, because that sounds really fascinating.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_01: So when I started opening up psychically, it's like I'm sure some of the people have experienced this.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, yeah, I've got this idea of going from 3D to 5D, you know, that happened back in the 2000s for me.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_01: I just started feeling like I'm getting so diffuse, I can just walk right through the walls, you know.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_01: Like I tell this story, like I just did it one time.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't, I guess I wasn't called to do things like this again, but like I had a cut on my finger one day, and I'm like, oh, I know this isn't real.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just gonna flip my hand back the other way and it'll be gone.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_01: I was so clear and I was in such a connected energy that it worked.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_01: Like I just flipped it over, it's gone.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like just wow, like things that are beyond, you know, what the mind can comprehend, right?
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_01: Like, well, how's that?
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_01: That's like Jesus level stuff, you know, or whatever.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_01: So my point is I had this big opening psychically, and but I realized it was so ungrounded.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_01: So I needed help with that.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_01: And then so I asked to be able to get more grounded, basically, and also even more importantly to me at the time is I wanted to be able to maximize what I could be able to do with that level of connection.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_01: How can I focus that gift?
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_01: And that's where the energy scan technique was born because I asked my guidance, show me how to do that, and they gave me a method, a way of doing that.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_01: And when I got it, it wasn't like I don't recall.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, who knows?
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like I get lots of ideas, but I don't think I ever thought, oh, it'd be a good idea to teach this to somebody.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_01: It was for me.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_01: I wanted to rock, I wanted to do my thing.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_01: And maybe somewhere way back on the back of my mind was the idea that maybe other people could do this.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_01: But I started doing it, and then again, back then in the 2000s, again, online and everything, it was different.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_01: Like I would be tuning into people or professional psychics, they're literally professional paid psychics, and I was brand new to doing this, and they're like, Oh my god, how do you do it and how do you do it so fast?
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_01: Because I could just I could go like a light speed when I let it fly.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_01: And and then I just started realizing, like, wow, I have something maybe to teach people, you know, with this.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_01: But people were putting me on a pedestal as happens in this, even to this day, it still happens, even more so back then.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, you know, you're just like so beyond and everything.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_01: And of course, my spiritual ego is always looking for attention and love all my life, uh, to be the star.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_01: Like that is in me.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_01: I want to be a star.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh, finally, yes, of course, I'm amazing at one level.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_01: And the other part of me was like, yeah, you know, I don't know, at the same time, right?
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_01: Both.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_01: And then eventually, though, I felt like it came to a crossroads.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_01: I could either continue to do this work and do this very powerful, interesting healing work.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I do healings for people and they'd be uh be like, yeah, for a week they'd be knocked out, you know, integrating and stuff.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_01: Like I could bring incredible energy to people if I if if that's the medicine they need.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_01: But so anyway, but I got to this crossroads and I was like, okay, am I gonna be this guru basically?
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_01: That's where because how people are seeing me.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, okay, or I can you know go the route of teaching other people how to do what I'm doing so that it normalizes it and more people can wake up to who they really are and what's possible for all of us.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_01: And that's the route I chose.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, this guru thing is a bunch of nonsense at that time, you know.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like I was like, no, this is not for me.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to do that.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_01: That doesn't feel right.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_01: So that's when I started going down this path of teaching other people.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, it's it's pretty simple stuff.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know anybody else that teaches it the way I do, the tuning in method.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_01: Ultimately, it is just as simple as, like, hey, it's all there, right?
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_01: When we say, Oh, it's kind of there, and we don't know what if that's all well, just give it a voice, and now all of a sudden you're massively intuitive, right?
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like that's mostly what it is at the end of the day.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_01: But these techniques I teach help people get more grounded and tune in and burrow themselves into.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: The energy for most students, you know, especially in the beginning, I think, even for me to this day, uh, if I want to even go way deeper, you know, I can use some of these tools and that technique, and you know, you can maybe discover some things, and maybe it just with a focus.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's just a focus.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_01: And then there's it's more to it than that.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_01: I won't give all the secrets away where people think, oh, I know it now.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I think at the beginning, I start teaching people like, here, let me, I'm teaching in 10 minutes, and you know, charge of nothing or for or for very little, and then it becomes a throwaway.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, oh, I know that now.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_01: That's what the mind says when it's it's so easy and free.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I know that now, no big deal, you know.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and then they don't do anything with it, they don't know anything.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, so that's why I build up the certifications is to really get people really into it, make it the big deal that it is, and then really value it.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_01: You know, that's the thing about letting people pay you for these things, is like let them really value it so they can get the value from it.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I again I don't even remember your question, but that's what occurs to make sense.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, that I was just asking about the energy technique, which it sounds like it's just what you've created to tune into people, see what the blocks are, and remove them, it sounds like.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_01: So, my thing is most energy healers don't know how to tune into the energy and really articulate what's really going on with the energy.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_01: Instead, what they do is they just send healing rays or whatever tightly symbols or whatever they do.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's all good.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_01: It's not that it doesn't work, it can work, but they don't really know what they're doing.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_01: I don't even know, source knows it can just, but you know, what if you were aware more in depth what's really going on with the energy and be able to more direct, you know, your healing because you're more aligned and attuned to what's going on with those energy patterns.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_01: It's pretty empowering and it can bring new results where people haven't seen them before.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_01: And it's that's what's possible.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_01: And then you can also track people better too, rather than just a report of how it's going.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_01: You could also see things that they maybe they're not noticing, what they're not paying attention to.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_01: You can see and can enhance that sense of that too by being able to reference those things.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_01: So there's a lot you can do once you uh develop that tool.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_01: Now, other people have it other ways.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not like you have to know my way, it's the only way.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_01: But there are students that I have that say that you know they swear by it, and that yeah, this is the way, the most direct path uh of really working with people.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_01: So to each their own, and uh it's pretty awesome ultimately.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_01: But uh yeah, there's so much stuff out there these days, but uh we need as many people as possible to realize they have these gifts.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_01: That that much I know for sure.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_02: I completely agree with you.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_02: And um, I really resonate with what you're saying too, just around the energy technique, because just for me and my own work with energy, one of the things that I feel like is so important that I've just come to understand.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_02: But also I think is that one of my gifts too is just to like very precisely pinpoint what is going on versus it just being like, okay, we're just gonna like heal or clear or whatever.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_02: It's like, okay, what is like precisely what's happening here?
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that's really important just for the overall potency of the work that you're doing.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_02: So I completely agree with you there.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_02: And also the other thing I just wanted to say really quick is I too agree with teaching it to other people because like there's no way that you can have the impact that you want to have as just one person.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_02: But then when you start to teach your methodology, it's like, okay, now it can just like spider web out and all of these people can be affected.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_02: So it's so important.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_02: And I just recently launched my own certification program back in July.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_02: And like I'm starting to see those reverberating effects, and it's just like so fulfilling, so fulfilling.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_02: So I completely agree with that.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_02: And then the other thing I wanted to ask you about is, you know, you mentioned about getting right with money, and also when you're talking about teaching your technique and people paying you for it, so they place a value on it.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_02: I'd love to go more into that, just kind of like what you kind of figured out about money and what is your take on that whole thing.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, I've had quite a journey with money.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_01: I've uh definitely uh been in uh tremendous, you know, deficit moods financially and stuff.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_01: And then I've had the other experience.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, what uh what I've learned about and I've helped people like doing whole certifications as well on like doing being money shadow practitioners and all that sort of stuff.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_01: So definitely deep dive on the money, right?
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_01: Because it's very fascinating to me, this money thing, right?
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_01: We're just human beings here, and we came up with this whole money idea, right?
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: Like, oh, this is how it could exchange energy.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, part of me always felt like when I got started, like, why don't we just all freely share with each other?
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, but then there'll be greed, and people will take all the items and then there won't be enough, and this would happen, and that would happen, and all the problems with it.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_01: And I still think like ultimately, like it's fine to have all these systems.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_01: I know that there's a higher order systems that are gonna come in.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_01: But what I learned through my guidance in many ways, like the guidance number number one comes, they're gonna shut off your heat, you know.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_01: Like, okay, you know, you're gonna pay the bill or not.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm out with this money system.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_01: All right, no problem.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_01: We'll shut off the heat, you know.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like, right?
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_01: So it's like, okay, you know, because I went through all those sorts of scenarios, like every all the sort of scenarios, never declared a bankruptcy and all that, but went through all the things that normally you go through with that sort of thing.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_01: Only worse, only worse because I didn't get the relief of bankruptcy.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_01: So I wanted to absorb that full flavor of that meal, you know.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't want to, you know, try to bypass, you know, my stuff.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's kind of what it was about it, too.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_01: And but my point is like what I learned is we can't be afraid of this idea playing with something that isn't even real ultimately, anyway.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_01: It may have real consequences because people are buying into it.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you gotta have money to be able for us to let you continue to have your house or whatever, but it's all us all ideas, and sometimes I get a little into my shy mode with it again.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_01: But like, I am such a big advocate on selling.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, if you're not gonna be selling and enrolling like higher ideas, guess what's selling instead?
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_01: The lower idea.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, well, you don't want to sell.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_01: All right, let's give you some stuff.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, you know, the economy's about to go bust.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you're probably right.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, that's gonna guess what?
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_01: You're not with the higher ideas, the lower ideas are gonna win all day long.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_01: So if you want to be with your lower ideas of money, those are gonna win out.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_01: If you're with their higher ideas of money, you know, money's really good.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_01: I think money's just all made up anyway.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna make up a really good story about money.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_01: I'm making tons of money.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_01: And every person that invests in my services, man, they're making tons of money or they're getting so many blessings that they don't even care about their financial uh affairs that much anymore.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe they don't even care.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe that's not even their path.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe they're meant to release all their money for all I know.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know anything.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_01: All I know is like this money thing, them investing, has got to be the best thing ever, because that's what I'm saying.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_01: You start to you set it up that way in your own consciousness.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_01: Now, some people say, Oh, you're just lying to yourself.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_01: But no, no, I don't buy that either.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_01: What you're saying, now we believe in all these principles we teach all the time.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_01: What you're saying is becoming a fact.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_01: If I'm clearer than you are that you're investing in this service, and I'm saying it's infinitely blessing your life, no matter what stories come up in your path about it.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_01: I just know it.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_01: And then that's going to find a way into your life, whether you attribute it to me or not.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_01: As long as I maintain that clarity, it'll happen.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_01: I really believe that.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_01: Now, people say, co-creation, no, you can't influence other people that level.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, I can if I'm clearer than you are.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_01: That's how people are having so much influence over us in ways that we don't like.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_01: So we're not standing in our power, we're not standing in our power in so many different ways, including influencing ourselves and being with these higher ideas, especially as it relates to things like money.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_01: Like, okay, well, money could be the best thing ever, it could be the best amplifier of good ever on the planet, you know, it's but the best invention ever.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_01: It can be that as long as we decide it to be so.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_01: It's just when we go back to the oh, money's the root of all evil.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, we got to do this money thing.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_01: I just wish money wasn't a thing.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_01: I was just financially free.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_01: Just give me a bunch of cash source.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_01: Come on.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like that's where we suffer.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_01: But when we realize it can be something that can bring on a lot of energy, a lot of enthusiasm, a lot of good stuff.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_01: And we don't put that in the shadow bag, like, oh, that's that old salesman kind of stuff.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_01: We don't want that.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_01: All right, something else is gonna get you.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_01: Someone else with enthusiasm about something else is going to snatch up your consciousness, and you're gonna get enthused about what they're saying, even if it's very negative and low order.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_01: So we better get on track with the money game and with being of a higher energy, higher integrity with that, bring it into the money, and then you know, sense and focus your money intentions, you know, and get clear on them in a way where you're just really feeling an embodied sense of enlightenment, enthusiasm, and empowerment uh around it.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_01: And then you can enjoy, you know, lots of money, and there's a lot of different ways.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_01: And that's the thing, like that's why I love energy scanning.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_01: I can tune into someone and see and work to with them and see how the money wants to come in for them, right?
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_01: Because it's I say it that way, but it looks a little bit different for everybody.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_01: How that money wants to come, what kind of energy do you want to be in?
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_01: You know, what kind of energy you want to amp up through money?
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_01: You know, there's so much money is a big topic, but I think it just starts with realizing we have to be willing to enroll ourselves into a higher idea.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_01: And I even say the namasteyers, uh, which I've been in that club, like we'll just go into the stillness.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_01: Even then, there's something going on in your mind with different ideas and concepts.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_01: You cannot escape your conceptual mind.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_01: You cannot escape the intentional field that continues to create a reality in this realm.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_01: You cannot escape it here in this realm.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_01: Just try it.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_01: I guarantee you, you can't.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_01: I guarantee you, whoever you are, and however smart you think you are in your spiritual realm, like this namaste stillness, like, you know, we were going to escape it all here in this realm.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_01: You forget about it, it ain't gonna happen.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_01: And so you you want to center yourself, but then you want to be aware of what kind of concepts and ideas you're going with.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_01: You want to keep it rolling the higher ideas that can be of higher benefit, of course, for everybody.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_01: That's you know, that's the way we all want to go.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_01: And I think you hit a hit button for me.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, I mean, there's so much that you said that I completely agree with.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_02: I think everything is just a projection of our mind, right?
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_02: And the way that we're choosing to perceive a situation and whether we're operating from those old belief systems or stories, or what I like to call operating from wounding, or if we're choosing to operate from like what you're talking about, like these higher thoughts.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_02: So I totally agree with you.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_02: And money is what we're deciding it to be.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_02: And obviously, I know that's like hard for people to conceptualize, especially like with what you are saying, like, okay, well, I have to pay my bills or they're gonna turn off the heat or whatever.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_02: That's not something that people want to hear, like in those moments, right?
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, I totally agree with you.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that it's just something that everyone kind of has to have their own path.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_02: So, like, what would you say are like when you said you can see the way that people want to bring in money?
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_02: Like, is that different for everyone from your perception, like of the way you read people?
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_01: I think so.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I guess there's teachers that say, you know, they have their own systems and they say it's working for everybody.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_01: But I find like this is something I rant on, like all in tons of interviews and everything I do.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of people lying about what they're doing for people.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like, oh yeah, this is what we do.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody gets into let's say, let's make it the opposite of what we hear a lot of.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna bring you into your divine masculine power.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_01: We don't hear that as much as we hear in the other stuff, and then you know, once you're centered in that, then that's what's gonna create the money flow.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah, maybe you'll attract those people that that is their medicine, but that doesn't mean that's for everybody, right?
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_01: So it's like whatever the system is, is my point.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_01: You know, that's my biggest point.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_01: It's like if it speaks to that person, it'll totally work.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_01: Once I got into my deep feminine, that's when I made all the money.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, that was the medicine that you needed.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_01: That doesn't mean that's for everybody, right?
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that's a big problem in the marketplace.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_01: It's like there's so many ideas sitting on our couch.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_01: This is the way, this is the way.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_01: I just I was listening to Brian Tracy, uh, even like I was he says there's a recipe to everything, and once you do the recipe right, you'll get this great results, like the master chef, you know, right away.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, this is a very good sales technique, uh Brian.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_01: That's a recipe right there.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_01: But it is simply a recipe uh of entraining people to a way of thinking.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_01: But the truth is, the recipe could be uh improved upon.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_01: I could be following the ingredients, you know, I'm getting an idea, put a different ingredient.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_01: I don't, I don't think I'm gonna follow this recipe exactly that way.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_01: And it could be a better outcome.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_01: So all these ideas, like, even though I love Brian Tracy, I love the man, you know, but at the same time, like you can find holes in every single story, every single teaching.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, so that my point is yes, that's why I like doing the passion test with people.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_01: What's really turning you out?
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_01: Well, what's your real deal with you?
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_01: And then I'm able to perceive that, you know, and work with you on that, but also then with my gifts is to keep dialing in to see you and understand how things want to happen through you.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_01: There's some of my clients, they they love the motivational path.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_01: I don't try to take them off of that.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_01: I say, no, go the motivational path.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_01: Keep telling yourself you gotta do this thing or else, you know.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_01: Great, that's working for you right now.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_01: Let's go with that.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_01: And if it's not working for you at some point, then we could, of course, correct, you know, okay, maybe something else is opening up in your energy.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe it's saying something else now, right?
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_01: But we're gonna listen to the energy and we're gonna follow where the energy wants to go, you know.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_01: And sometimes, you know, that can shift at any point, of course.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_01: But we're gonna go with what makes sense for that person for their energy.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of people come to me, they need more fire and steel energy.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_01: You know, they're just oh not a mistake, everything's just happening and so easy.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_01: But then they have complaints.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, the money's not consistent enough.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, this or that, you know, the business isn't quite taking off, even though I could care less if it ever takes off, because I'm so happy.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_01: I got plenty of money for now and well, whatever the store their stories are, right?
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_01: So I just help them to realize a lot of people I've worked with are like people that are really strong in their energy.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_01: They know how to be super, they can work the 80-hour weeks, they can do all this crap, but it got so toxic now they're like, oh, let me back way off now.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_01: And like then they go to that, which is fine, it's needed for a period of time.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm the integration guy.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, okay, no, you can integrate all of that.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_01: You can actually just be who you are.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_01: So let's do that.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_01: And that's what's going to put you in the right energy.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_01: And when you focus on the things you're meant to focus on, on your path and in your business, and then you're just gonna start, you know, the things that you want are gonna happen with the money.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and of course, there may be false beliefs around money and whatnot to be cleared up along the way, of course.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_01: But as much as anything, I feel when people want to help other people sincerely and with such enthusiasm and zeal, that is a massive foundation.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_01: And then if you're just willing to let the money come in, then like that almost can be enough.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_01: It's more about circulating yourself and being really sincere and um really want to help people and be willing to receive it, knowing it's for everyone's highest good.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes that could be enough.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_01: But everybody's different, so there's not a one one formula.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I totally agree with you about not there being not one formula because I see that with people all the time, and I see that much different things are needed for people.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_02: And, you know, as I've gone down this path too, I'm often just myself in my own mind pondering, well, why does this person come in and get these crazy amazing results?
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_02: And then this other person comes in and it's taken a lot longer, you know, and I'm like always kind of trying to figure out, well, what are the X factors here or what are the the things?
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_02: And there's always so many different things, right?
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_02: And I think like everyone kind of needs different kinds of support, everyone kind of needs different tools and things to look at because you're right, every single person is different.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_02: So I actually don't even pay any attention to anyone who says that there's like one recipe or one size fits all thing because I'm just like it just totally turns me off.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_02: It kind of reminds me of like when I was a school counselor and they used to always say, like, we need to do these like evidence-based practices, right?
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, what the fuck is that?
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_02: Because like somebody made an observation and decided that these practices were like evidence-based.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_02: Like, what does that even mean?
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_02: You know, because literally that practice will work really great for one kid, and then there's another kid that it will do absolutely nothing for.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_02: And that's the way it is with everybody.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_02: So there's no one size fits all approach.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_02: So there's one thing you said that I'd love for you to expand on more, which is about like when you were talking about being willing to have the money come in or being willing to receive.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_02: What is the difference between the person who's willing and not willing?
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_02: Like, what is that block?
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_01: I can answer that directly, but we don't have to get directly personal with you.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_01: But like, could I give an example of this whole willingness?
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like, how simple it can be.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_01: Can I do it with you?
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, definitely.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_02: I would love, I'll get super direct and personal.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_02: Let's do it.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, okay.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_01: I want you to, and this is really basic, and maybe you've done something like this before, but it's really a good exercise.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody can participate.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_01: Let's do it this way.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_01: So, whatever amount of money you're making in your business right now, we don't need the number.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_01: We, you know, it's uh we'll keep that private.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_01: All of you feel into the and that energy and then feel it in your presence, in your body.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_01: You know, most of your listeners are pretty enlightened, so they probably are connected to their body a little bit.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_01: So feel that in your body, the amount of money you're currently making in your business.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_01: Can you feel that?
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_01: Uh at least, can you feel that?
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_01: All right, now just imagine like we're we're dialing it up, like you almost turning a dial, right?
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so wherever it is now, we're gonna tile it up just like oh, 10% or something.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_01: And then I want you to feel that in your body.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_01: Now, how does it feel?
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_01: Does it feel more expanded or does it feel contracted?
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_02: Um, that feels more expanded, like it it feels like, oh, okay.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_01: Nice, nice.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, let's just let's go back.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, feel into this then.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna keep working with that dial.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, all right, and turning up.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna turn it up now up to 20%.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_01: Let's go there next.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_01: And then how does that feel?
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_01: Does that still feel expanded?
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it still feels expanded.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_02: It feels a little bit like, ooh, a little bit edgy for me.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, there we go.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_01: So, so this is what I mean.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like people will say in their mind, man, I want to make double and triple or a million times more than I make right now.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_01: But when we tune into the body, we find that there's something that's saying no, yeah, we can't do that, we can't have that for some reason.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_01: And then the number one thing is safety, of course, right?
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_01: It's safe.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_01: It's not safe to receive it for some reason.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_01: So, my feeling on you, and can I do a quick scan on that?
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_01: Please.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so I I feel like like you're really good at, and you do do this right now, but like if we take it to another level, this is where the safety comes in.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_01: You're really good at jumping something into something, and everything goes really well and spectacularly well, and all the money's flying around, it'd be great, right?
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_01: But then there's like a cliff or there's something, a sinkhole, like right in front of it, right?
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like if you're not careful, you're gonna go right in that sinkhole, you're not gonna go to zero, you're gonna go beyond zero, you're gonna go way down.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_01: And so, because of your patterns of your past and past, path and past, all that, you're like, shit, I don't want to even get close to that damn thing.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_01: You know, let's get it like a perimeter around that hole, you know, like so we don't get too close to it.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_01: And then, and then so like the minute you think that you know what you would need to step into energetically is gonna take you too close into that, you're like, oh no, we gotta back that off.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_01: No, we can't do that.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_01: So, but the idea is that something something's gonna go wrong, or you know, something's gonna drop off, and I'm gonna lose myself in it, and then I'll become overwhelmed, maybe, or something, and then uh everybody will want me, and then I I won't be able to possibly answer up for all that, and not the chill life I'm looking for, because I love to be full of energy and do all this, but I also like to have my chill time and don't ruffle my feathers too much, and so there's a whole belief system that it's gotta be in a certain way, otherwise uh it might be like, well, retrograde, like every day, because you probably experienced that before 100%, right?
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_01: So that's what it creates these money stories.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_01: But the truth is we can work with this energy in a number of different ways to get it so where even maybe in a few minutes, like we could just all of a sudden it's safe, right?
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_01: But what if that whole thing is that's just uh like a mirage, right?
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, there's monsters out there in the desert, right?
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, even though it's your past, your past is your past, it was a mirage that you bought into back then, too, right?
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_01: It was something showed up and you We freak out.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like the mirage shows up when we assign value and ideas to it.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that means oh fearful now.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_01: So it's like, okay, it was just a mirage.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_01: Whatever we thought about it is a mirage.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_01: Then we can realize, okay, it's not real.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't and I can't say for 100% it was real.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_01: All I know is I experienced something at a time, but maybe it was my thoughts.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah, that sounds true, right?
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_01: So okay, if it's just my thoughts that maybe created that experience, because no matter what happened, you somebody ripped your head off, then you have an idea about it, you suffer from it.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_01: That's just your idea.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_01: We don't know.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe it was for your better.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, quit thinking so much, right?
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_01: So whatever it is, even the horrific things, right?
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_01: But usually it's not something that horrific, like in this life.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_01: It's usually something traumatic, but not the worst, usually, but sometimes it's very, very traumatic.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_01: So whatever it is, it's just like you don't want to get into that.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_01: So it's like, okay, screw that.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like some of the best money coaches I've seen are like, okay, we're not only we're not afraid of that trauma anymore, but now if that were to happen, I am going to be triumphant anyway.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_01: And so so it literally eliminates the possibility of it happening because it's almost like the devil's like, oh, she it's not gonna demoralize her anyway.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_01: So we won't even bother to put that crap in our life.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, like when we just find another way, right?
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_01: And then then it'll show up as your other block, right?
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_01: Your so-called other block.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_01: Let's say if we could hook you from this side or that side, right?
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_01: Right towards awakening.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_01: So we dial that up now, you know, even with this little conversation.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_01: You could tell me if it's short or not, at least, but like if we turn it up to 20% now, it probably feels at least a little bit better, even just having a conversation about it.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, yeah, okay, I feel a little nervous still, but I feel maybe you get a little more of a buzzing energy in your body right now, right?
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_01: So it's like a little, ooh, a little excitement.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's kind of itchy, but I don't know.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm more a little more interested.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_01: So, right?
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_01: Put words in your mouth, but that's what I put in front of you.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_02: No, it's true.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_02: It feels because I know for me, like obviously I'm really tuned in with myself and my own blocks, and I realize it's about safety, right?
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_02: So I think even after having this conversation, and even just like you kind of naming it as a mirage, right, versus a reality brings me into a deeper level of safety and my body around it.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, exactly.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_01: We start realizing it's just that's where all this, even though it's past life, it's this, it was in utero or whatever.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_01: Something in the consciousness saw something, assigned uh an idea to it.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_01: It sounds uh bizarre that in utero that could be possible, but there's something perceiving something and separation energy that's like saying, you know, in some level, like this means that shit, we're in trouble, you know.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_01: And right, well, what about real physical danger?
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_01: But who we are, it can't be hurt, right?
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_01: We've heard that saying before, right?
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_01: Who we truly are can never be touched or harmed.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_01: So it's just this perception that some real harm could happen, and then we're constantly guarding against it, right?
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_01: So the more we can open up and be like, okay, wait a minute, no, actually, I'd love to have that new wardrobe and be dressed this way and be more flamboyant.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I've been always dreaming about that, but I always wonder if people think I'm not to be taken seriously then.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_01: So maybe if I step into more of that, actually, yeah, more people that like are looking for me will find me that way, and you know, all this, and then the money go money flows.
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_01: So this is all part of the magic of to be able to tune into it, because that's what I sense with you.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I sense you want to be more flamboyant in a way, and more like, whoa, look at this, and more theatrical in a way, in a in a in a real way.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_01: But you know what I mean?
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_01: So, like, I see it in you, I know it in you.
• 47:42
  SPEAKER_01: So those are the things we want to keep having you embrace and realize you can embrace it.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I love that.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_02: And I think it's so true.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_02: And like I can feel it in my body right now.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_02: And it's really funny because I feel like we had this conversation at like the exact perfect time.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_02: Cause like I just had like a huge emotional shift.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_02: I just had a huge like breakthrough with my mentor, like right before this.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_02: And then we just got on this call, and I feel like what just happened like really just pushed me over the edge into like this new level of just safety and fully embracing like who I am and what I'm meant to do here and not holding back.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and I feel like it's always every time I up level, it's like another layer of not holding back, of tightening my boundaries and requiring more of the people around me and also, and when I say tightening my boundaries, I don't mean like this.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_02: I just mean like honoring myself in an even deeper way.
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_02: Cause that's what boundaries to me truly are is just honoring yourself.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_02: And every level, it's like, okay, I'm I'm taking it up a notch even more and I'm feeling safe to do that, you know, and and I think that's what it's ultimately about.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_02: So that was very profound.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_01: I'm grateful.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_01: I'm grateful.
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, but this is what I'm saying.
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_01: When we can, everybody has a level of intuition that works with people, right?
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_01: We're all like, oh, I got this feeling to say this to that person.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_01: But what if you could take it to another level?
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_01: You could really say some things that you're sort of maybe perceiving, or maybe not yet, but like, but it's there somewhere.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_01: And like to be able to articulate those things, you know, that is something that, again, me and my students, you know, like that's what we're able to do.
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_01: We're able to say these things that we're picking up on people that can turn something on and inside that person, and they're like, oh yeah, hell yeah, yeah, that's right.
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_01: You know, that's true.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_01: And be able to turn that energy on, whereas traditional coaching, traditional healing, it's it's all great.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying there's anything totally wrong with it, but at all, it's all good.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_01: But it's sometimes we miss these things because we haven't listened clearly enough.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_01: We haven't tuned into that, those energy portals, and then brought those pieces out.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_01: Instead, sometimes we have to rely on something that's maybe a little less efficient sometimes in terms of let's do this exercise, let's do another workbook, or let's do another, or maybe there's just one precise thing you need to say to somebody at the right time, and that's going to make all the difference.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_01: So that's yeah, so that's what I found.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, a hundred percent.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_02: I love that so much.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_02: And thank you for sharing that.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_02: So, can you share with everyone like how they can get in touch with you to like do what we just did and more and what else you have available for people?
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, thank you.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_01: So if you go to your sacredpurpose.com, that's where you could uh receive uh this sort of uh support, of course.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, there isn't uh rock your sacred purpose energy scan available on there.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_01: It is an investment.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's not for for I just recently, you know, turned it into an investment because for years, you know, I just did free to get started with people forever.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_01: And then the universe gave me big signs in many ways, like, okay, you're finally gonna charge for it like you've been saying you're gonna do.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_01: So now I do.
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_01: Like, so there is an investment, and I will tune into you sort of like I'm doing with Elise, only a lot more, you know, because it's a formal session, and really dig into your specifics with your business and your energy and your purpose and what's going on for you.
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_01: And uh we'll start dialing it in right away.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_01: It's a literally a service.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_01: Now, I do say in there, like we will talk about the possibility of working together, maybe, if that seems to be something that wants to be explored.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_01: If not, that's okay.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_01: It's a paid session, you know.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_01: So, but it allows for that.
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_01: And then um, people are not ready yet for that, but they're sort of like, well, maybe someday uh want to get other value from me.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_01: There's a meditate and make money meditation there.
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_01: It's really awesome.
• 51:46
  SPEAKER_01: That really helps you to uh get connected with your deeper presence, open your chakras and get the money energy turned on inside of you so that you know, just magnetically, things you would think were impossible to happen, maybe in your mind, right?
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_01: And all of a sudden your energy starts turning on through these meditations or this meditation, because it's multiple meditations because you do it on a regular or daily basis, and all of a sudden, like everything just starts coming into alignment for you.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_01: And that's what I'm hearing from the people that have been doing it two, three years or more.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like I just keep listening to that thing, and I just keep making more money.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_01: And I they attribute it to the meditate and make money.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_01: So it's for free.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_01: Grab it, your sacred purpose.com.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_02: Cool.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_02: I'm getting it right after this call.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_02: Awesome.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and then is there are you on social media for people to find you there as well?
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, all over the place, like everybody else, I suppose.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I'm on Instagram.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_01: I am under uh Rock Your Sacred Purpose in a lot of places.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_01: So either look for Rock Your Sacred Purpose or through my name, uh Daniel Hanneman, or sometimes it's Daniel John Hanneman.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_01: So you can find me, yeah, LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, I think I already said, right?
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_01: YouTube, I'm on there.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_01: I've got a podcast uh Lisa's gonna be on in the near future, uh, which is Spiritual Rockstar, which oh my God, just the experts, and we have these fascinating conversations, you know, because it's more of a conversation than only an interview.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_01: I like to talk way too much to only listen.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_01: So that's kind of the way it comes when you come on my shelf.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so check that out.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_01: I tune into people there too.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_01: I have whole shows where I've scanned people, and every time I scan people, folks, right?
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_01: Like I said something that lit you up today, right?
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_01: Like when I just even a little bit I gave it to Elise, that lights you up, right?
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_01: So it's like there's something that's connecting for you too.
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_01: And so you're moving up your ability to receive, you know, in this case with money, etc.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_01: But so yeah, absolutely.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_01: Like there's all these different ways of a rock your sacred purpose Facebook group and all that stuff.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, you can find my podcast on YouTube under Spiritual Rock Star and on iTunes and all the rest.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_02: Awesome.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much for sharing all of that.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_02: And then for our final question for you, what is a non-negotiable when it comes to fully reclaiming your consciousness?
• 54:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that is the name of the show, isn't it?
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_02: That's the name of the show.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_01: Well, for me, like it just comes to me.
• 54:17
  SPEAKER_01: The first thought is just like meditation for me.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_01: I know there's people that say, like, hey, I've transcended meditation because I'm just constantly at that level of brainwave state or whatever.
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and at that resonance.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe it's true, who knows?
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_01: But I always think when people say that, there's another level for them, though.
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe they've gotten to where they think they're complete, but there's more levels because you see, like even people that say they're fully awakened and enlightened, there are many of them you see still meditating, right?
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_01: They still go into a meditative stance.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_01: So lead people in meditation, do their meditation, the Dalai Lama, even, right?
• 54:55
  SPEAKER_01: I guess he's too deluded, though.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_01: You know, he still isn't there yet, though.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_01: But uh, I just make fun of all this stuff, you know.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_01: Like I did a whole series recently, Are You Spiritual Enough and everything?
• 55:05
  SPEAKER_02: It's like I love that.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just like making fun of it.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_02: Because I feel like if anyone says, like, oh, I'm fully like awakened, or I'm just like, okay, like, because I just don't think that's ever a thing, you know, unless you like just completely merge with like the energies and float away, like you're still like here, like, and there's work to be done.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, if you're here in the body, you're not done.
• 55:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's for sure.
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly, exactly.
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_01: You can go to higher, high levels of embodied presence.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_01: Well hundred percent, you know, and I've experienced all different kinds of levels of that.
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_01: But at times weeks, weeks would go by, and the whole universe is singing to me all day long, like nothing bothers me.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_01: Everything, oh, the whole world's on fire, whatever.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_01: That feels pretty good too, and you know, really good.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_01: I can just feel the resonance and the beauty and everything.
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, but there's always more that wants to open up because at that time I thought, oh, I'm done, I've made it, you know, because I was in I was in that consciousness.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you've got to make it, you know.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna make it, I'm gonna made it there.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_02: Right, like there's a destination or something.
• 56:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and one of my teachers says, uh, listen, I don't think you're done yet.
• 56:13
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, okay, I can accept that.
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, ha ha.
• 56:17
  SPEAKER_01: I was hoping that she'd be wrong, but uh, she wasn't.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, we're still here in a body, things are still happening, and uh meditation is the key.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_01: I I I truly believe that that I'm very passionate about meditation.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_01: I think if we we saw more people consistently, consistently is the big key.
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_01: Most people are not consistent in meditation, even meditators.
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, consistently meditating, we're gonna see a world that if every single person on a planet did regular meditation, we would see just think about it like how different the world would be.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh, yes.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_01: People just talking all this motivational stuff all the time, be talking, having people talking from a much different place, and things would be much different.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_01: So, anyway, meditation is a non-negotiable because it's really the most direct path I can think of ultimately to come back to the trueness of who we are, you know, that and things like channeling and things, but like like it brings you right back into that center.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_01: So that's my non-negotiable.
• 57:15
  SPEAKER_02: Awesome.
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much.
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_02: I completely agree with you.
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you so much for sharing all of that and for the energy scan you did on me.
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_02: I'm deeply appreciative.
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_02: And thank you for being here.
• 57:26
  SPEAKER_02: I know everyone's gonna love it.
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_01: Well, thank you so much, Elise.
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for letting me go on and on today.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_01: It was fun, it was a lot of fun.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 57:37
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