Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Sarina Rodriques, Associate Vice President of System Lab Operations at Rush University System for Health
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- 0:38This is Scott Becker with the Becker's Health
- 0:41Care podcast.
- 0:42We're thrilled today to be joined by a
- 0:45wonderful leader
- 0:46from a a brilliant leader from a wonderful
- 0:49institution.
- 0:49We're joined today by Serena Rodriguez.
- 0:53Serena's both at Rush University System for Health.
- 0:56She's also from the Yale School of Management.
- 0:59Serena, a great pleasure to visit with you.
- 1:01I I will tell you I spent the
- 1:03morning downtown at the Rush campus, so I
- 1:05was so excited to see you on the
- 1:07schedule today.
- 1:09Can you take a moment and tell us
- 1:10a little about yourself
- 1:11and about your career?
- 1:13Oh, sure. I can do that. So as
- 1:16you mentioned,
- 1:17I'm Serena Rodriguez. I am the associate vice
- 1:20president
- 1:21for laboratory
- 1:22systems,
- 1:23throughout the Rush,
- 1:25university
- 1:26system in Chicago.
- 1:29As you, of course, know, Rush is an
- 1:31academic health system. It's got a really great
- 1:35mission
- 1:36around
- 1:37patient care, but, there's this wonderful
- 1:41additional,
- 1:42you know, mission we have around education,
- 1:45research, and health equity.
- 1:47We are, very complex in our environments.
- 1:51We not only support
- 1:53tertiary care, but quaternary care. We have this
- 1:56incredible teaching mission,
- 1:59and we're also really growing our ambulatory footprint.
- 2:02We recently opened, another ambulatory site on North
- 2:06And Harlem,
- 2:07but we are deeply committed to community
- 2:10access.
- 2:11So in my role, I oversee lab operations
- 2:14across the system.
- 2:16I have a lot of strategy around
- 2:18workforce
- 2:19strength. Of course, quality and regulatory governance
- 2:23is critical to, laboratory medicine.
- 2:27We also serve as a reference laboratory
- 2:29for systems,
- 2:31throughout rush.
- 2:33We are looking at some strategies around insourcing,
- 2:37laboratory technology.
- 2:40A core program of why I was brought
- 2:42into Rush with my background in,
- 2:45expertise in laboratory medicine
- 2:48as a consultant
- 2:49throughout The US
- 2:51where I did a lot of system work
- 2:53is to advance
- 2:55the
- 2:56one rush,
- 2:58one laboratory model
- 3:00standardizing
- 3:02to improve safety, efficiency, compliance,
- 3:05while still allowing some flexibility
- 3:07around that academic setting.
- 3:10The goal is to have a enterprise laboratory
- 3:13that's reliable,
- 3:14scalable,
- 3:16and positioned to support
- 3:18this long term growth that health's,
- 3:21mission is.
- 3:22So that's just a little bit about me.
- 3:25Well well, thank you. What are some of
- 3:27the core trends that you're watching currently? What
- 3:29are those are the big things that you
- 3:30have your eye on?
- 3:32There are, several trends that are shaping how
- 3:35we lead laboratories
- 3:36today.
- 3:37The first one would be workforce sustainability.
- 3:40It really goes beyond recruitment.
- 3:44We're focused on fatigue risk
- 3:47and competency
- 3:48depth,
- 3:49leadership coverage across all shifts,
- 3:52and long term viability of staffing models that
- 3:55really historically
- 3:57relied on overtime
- 3:58and sort of informal coverage.
- 4:01Systems are increasingly recognizing
- 4:03this as both a patient safety risk and
- 4:06an enterprise risk. So I'm really focused on
- 4:10local leadership even though we are a system.
- 4:13We really need to ensure that all of
- 4:15our employees
- 4:16on all hours of the day
- 4:18are being thought about, you know, from that
- 4:21fatigue risk
- 4:23and having presence locally.
- 4:26The second area that I'm seeing a trend
- 4:28around is reference lab and insourcing strategies, sort
- 4:32of a reassessment
- 4:34of what makes sense
- 4:35to do
- 4:37ourselves.
- 4:38So we have this strong ambulatory presence
- 4:40throughout the Chicagoland
- 4:42area out into Aurora.
- 4:45We're looking at
- 4:46taking care of all of our patients, whether
- 4:49they're inpatient or ambulatory.
- 4:51So we have a strategy for ambulatory
- 4:55growth, looking at things like turnaround time, where
- 4:57testing is performed, should it be performed locally
- 5:00at the point of care,
- 5:02and also just that total cost of owning
- 5:05our laboratories,
- 5:07not just at the incremental cost per test
- 5:09level, but how does it impact value based
- 5:13care and outcomes to our patients?
- 5:16Wherever we can, we are looking at strategies
- 5:19to in source testing back in house.
- 5:23We think this will help create better access,
- 5:26growth,
- 5:27and improve quality. And then finally, the third
- 5:31trend that comes to my mind is governance.
- 5:34We want to be sure that we are
- 5:36responsible
- 5:37for how we utilize laboratory testing.
- 5:40So we wanna move away from fragmented
- 5:43on-site based decision making towards structured governance for
- 5:47test utilization,
- 5:48point of care testing,
- 5:50technology,
- 5:51blood management, and quality. So those are some
- 5:54things we're looking at with a
- 5:56external
- 5:58membership approach, not just an internal lab membership
- 6:01approach of using our providers,
- 6:04our clinicians,
- 6:05our pharmacists
- 6:06to support governance around laboratory utilization.
- 6:11Thank you. And and take a moment on
- 6:14the sort of as you get into 2026,
- 6:18Serena, where are you most focused and excited?
- 6:21Building infrastructure
- 6:23is my focus.
- 6:25As I mentioned,
- 6:26to do governance work, we need to have
- 6:28the right people
- 6:30hired and engaged.
- 6:32So I'm creating new workforce models
- 6:35and
- 6:36updating the operating standards
- 6:38so that we can have people
- 6:42available to do the governance work as well
- 6:44as being able to bring growth
- 6:47back in house.
- 6:48So that's gonna take some infrastructure
- 6:51rebuilding.
- 6:52Outside of the last sixty six to eighteen
- 6:55months, I'm really proud of the progress we've
- 6:58made
- 6:59for,
- 7:00system wide support,
- 7:02setting clear expectations
- 7:04and accountability on decision making.
- 7:06We're really aligned with our regulatory bodies like
- 7:09CLIA and CAP, and patient safety is always
- 7:13at the forefront for everything we do.
- 7:16I think creating this workforce stabilization
- 7:18and redesign
- 7:20has helped us
- 7:22get ready for the work ahead.
- 7:24We're also doing a lot more work around.
- 7:27Illinois isn't a licensed state for laboratorians.
- 7:31However, we do hire certified techs, and so
- 7:34creating skill mixing where we utilize certified techs
- 7:38versus,
- 7:40different skill mixes with medical lab assistance or
- 7:44uncertified
- 7:45text. We need them all. They're critical to
- 7:47our
- 7:48coverage.
- 7:50So we're using a lot of that
- 7:52understanding of when we need
- 7:54certification
- 7:55and when we do when we don't.
- 7:58We also are really positioned
- 8:00to be a growth partner.
- 8:02I love that Rush invests in their programs,
- 8:05and they've been really
- 8:07supportive of the laboratories.
- 8:10Really proud of that, and it has given
- 8:11us the momentum
- 8:13to continue
- 8:14to grow and invest in our laboratories.
- 8:18Thank you. And you've had this great both
- 8:21leadership and education
- 8:24career. You're a,
- 8:26master's in health systems management,
- 8:28executive education,
- 8:31assistant professor.
- 8:33What what advice would you give to emerging
- 8:36leaders?
- 8:37And and talk for a moment about
- 8:40this commitment to lifelong learning?
- 8:43Oh, yes.
- 8:44Well, first advice I would give I give
- 8:46to everybody when I'm
- 8:48teaching either a a course on financial management
- 8:51or operations
- 8:53is being able to communicate
- 8:56the story to your executives
- 8:59and using financial language that helps to paint
- 9:02the picture.
- 9:03So being a data driven leader is so
- 9:06critical, especially
- 9:08for laboratorians, but across all disciplines.
- 9:11If you can connect volume
- 9:14data to staffing models, quality risk, and cost,
- 9:18you really build credibility
- 9:19and influence very quickly.
- 9:22Think it helps you to
- 9:23achieve
- 9:25those high goals that you're after.
- 9:27I also think that it's really important to
- 9:29invest early on leadership development, and we've mentioned
- 9:33governance
- 9:34often here
- 9:35so that you bring in strong leaders who
- 9:38have, diverse skill sets so that you have
- 9:41a diverse group of
- 9:43employees,
- 9:44or leadership employees.
- 9:45So I think
- 9:47technology and capital matter,
- 9:49but strong infrastructure and capable leaders at every
- 9:53level,
- 9:54those investments,
- 9:56you know, they are critical to being able
- 9:58to deliver
- 9:59the value.
- 10:01And then I think that another advice final
- 10:04advice would be,
- 10:05you know, create systems that have sustainable performance.
- 10:09So burnout and turnover
- 10:12are, rarely individual
- 10:14failures. They're usually signals of system strain.
- 10:18Leaders who address this proactively,
- 10:21they'll protect both people and their patients.
- 10:24I think staying collaborative and cute curious,
- 10:28those leaders who listen
- 10:30well build trust across disciplines, not just in
- 10:34their lab space.
- 10:36They're willing to challenge
- 10:38legacy models,
- 10:40really have better outcomes. I mean, we all
- 10:42we have to be ready for challenging legacy
- 10:44models.
- 10:46This is a whole new world of health
- 10:48care today.
- 10:50Rina Rodriguez, what a pleasure to visit with
- 10:52you. What a remarkable career.
- 10:54Thank you for taking the time to visit
- 10:56with us today on the Becker's Healthcare podcast.
- 10:58Just incredible what you're doing and what Rush
- 11:00is doing. Thank you so much.
- 11:02Thank you so much for having me.