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Sean O'Connell Show - FULL POD - 8-19-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday, everybody. It's the Sean O'Connell Show on a
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  Speaker 1: Sammy Moa may or may not be joining us because
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  Speaker 1: of practice post practice media availability today in our new hour,
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  Speaker 1: Morgan Scally Utah had football code at one o'clock. We'll
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  Speaker 1: get as much as we can out of Morgan. Usually
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  Speaker 1: that's about fifteen minutes, and we look forward to that conversation.
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  Speaker 1: As Utah football camp continues. You're now just over two
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  Speaker 1: weeks away from the beginning of the Utah football season
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  Speaker 1: when they kick off against Idaho. We start to see
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  Speaker 1: some of the questions that we've talked about all off
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  Speaker 1: season long get answered. We start to get an assessment
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  Speaker 1: of whether or not you really have the talent that
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  Speaker 1: you think you have. You start to get some kind
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  Speaker 1: of an idea about whether or not the changes at
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  Speaker 1: the coordinator positions are going to translate into actual truly
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  Speaker 1: different looks or there's going to be more same, less different.
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  Speaker 1: One of the other things that I think we have
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  Speaker 1: a good idea of, or we believe that we have
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  Speaker 1: a good idea of, is what the team chemistry looks
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  Speaker 1: like right now. The overall atmosphere of things at the
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  Speaker 1: University of Utah a lot of optimism, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, a lot of enjoyment
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  Speaker 1: being shown by players. Even as you heard the head
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  Speaker 1: coach state that you know, we're now kind of in
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  Speaker 1: the dog days. This week of camp is a slog man.
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  Speaker 1: It's a tough, tough time when you're heading into week
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  Speaker 1: three and the bumps and the bruises are there.
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  Speaker 2: There's a couple of guys.
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  Speaker 1: In the room that you know, your position room that
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  Speaker 1: are not practicing or they're limited in practice. You've got
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  Speaker 1: certain people wearing the non contact jerseys. Now your shin
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  Speaker 1: splints are firing up. It's a tough time to remain positive, optimistic,
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  Speaker 1: enthusiastic about football. But every bit of sound we are
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  Speaker 1: hearing is still kind of like letting some of that
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  Speaker 1: come through. Yeah, there's an acknowledgment of the difficulty, but
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  Speaker 1: it's not a complaint. So the culture and the chemistry
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  Speaker 1: of this team is something that has to change under
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  Speaker 1: a new head coach. You want to keep the good
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  Speaker 1: stuff there, you want to keep the positives intact, but
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  Speaker 1: it does have to change.
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  Speaker 2: It's just the way.
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  Speaker 1: It's just the nature of things in sports, and in
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  Speaker 1: college football. Anytime there's a leadership change, there is going
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  Speaker 1: to be some cultural shift. It's one thing that we
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  Speaker 1: have really kind of taken for granted at the University
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  Speaker 1: of Utah for many years that culturally, you understand what
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  Speaker 1: the team is supposed to be. Now, there's always been outliers,
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  Speaker 1: and there's been guys that color outside the lines, and
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  Speaker 1: there's been you know, bad actors. There's been tough examples
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  Speaker 1: things like that, but for the most part, you've had
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  Speaker 1: this continuity of a sort of team DYNA and this
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  Speaker 1: continuity of team culture and of the outward facing version
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  Speaker 1: of that. What it looks like for the fan, what
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  Speaker 1: it looks like, for the media, what it looks like
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  Speaker 1: for the observer, what it looks like even for the
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  Speaker 1: opposing team. I don't know that we really give enough
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  Speaker 1: credit to that, or I don't know that we really
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  Speaker 1: talk enough about it, or pay enough attention to it,
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  Speaker 1: or value enough how that constancy, that consistency, that embedded,
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  Speaker 1: ingrained culture has helped out really the entire atmosphere around
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  Speaker 1: Utah football and obviously within Utah football as well. And
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  Speaker 1: the reason it's front of mine for me today is
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  Speaker 1: because this is it's kind of a headline that's going
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  Speaker 1: a little bit under the radar. But TCU has dismissed
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  Speaker 1: one of their projected starters from the team. TCU is
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  Speaker 1: not on a lot of people's radar as the eventual
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  Speaker 1: Big twelve champion. They're not on a lot of people's
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  Speaker 1: radar even as maybe a contender for that. TCU, I
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  Speaker 1: think is going to have something to say about it.
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  Speaker 1: I think TCU is one of the toughest matchups that
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  Speaker 1: Utah is going to face this year. As we have
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  Speaker 1: talked about the schedule a lot, TCU right now is
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  Speaker 1: trying to figure out who one of their starting safeties
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  Speaker 1: is going to be after a physical altercation in the
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  Speaker 1: locker room, after a fight in the locker room. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll get more details on this as the
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  Speaker 1: story continues to develop. But Jacob Fields, who was a
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  Speaker 1: guy who transferred in he was one of the kind
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  Speaker 1: of the gems of their transfer class. He was the
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  Speaker 1: co Defensive Player of the Year last year in Conference
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  Speaker 1: USA Football. He was at Louisiana Tech, and he started
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  Speaker 1: all twelve games for Louisiana Tech for the first time
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  Speaker 1: in the history of Louisiana Tech football, or excuse me,
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  Speaker 1: for the first time in a decade at Louisiana Tech,
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  Speaker 1: a defensive back led the team in tackles. He had
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  Speaker 1: ninety two tackles from the safety position. He had three interceptions,
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  Speaker 1: he returned to those for touchdowns. He had a couple
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  Speaker 1: tackles for loss. He broke up five passes. He was
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  Speaker 1: a huge difference maker for Louisiana Tech. And like a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people that are in that group of six level,
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  Speaker 1: that are in that mid major level, when you have
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  Speaker 1: a standout season like that, of course, he was like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna try to take advantage of these
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  Speaker 1: postseason accolades. I'm going to put my name into the
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  Speaker 1: transfer portal. I'm gonna see what the market for my
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  Speaker 1: services is. And what does he do? He climbs the
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  Speaker 1: ladder he ends up at a respectable Big twelve program
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  Speaker 1: and it.
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  Speaker 2: Just so happens to be TCU.
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  Speaker 1: Jacobs was the spring ball and fall camp starter until yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: What he was kicked off the team when he was
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  Speaker 1: dismissed from the team because there was a fight and
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  Speaker 1: he was involved in it. Multiple sources reporting. And when
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  Speaker 1: you say multiple sources, what you're talking about is people
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  Speaker 1: who heard from the players on the team why this happened,
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  Speaker 1: and what a strange development this is. And it's something
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  Speaker 1: that is a dynamic that exists around the transfer portal
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  Speaker 1: more than anything else. A guy comes in, he's the
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  Speaker 1: best player on his previous team. He comes in at
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  Speaker 1: TCU and he's he's among the really good players at TCU.
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  Speaker 1: He's probably no longer the best player at TCU. He's
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  Speaker 1: probably no longer almost certainly no longer the big dog
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  Speaker 1: in the room, right I'm talking about the weight room,
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  Speaker 1: the practice field, the locker room. It's a really really
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  Speaker 1: tough thing to walk into one of these power for programs,
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  Speaker 1: Big twelve program anyone who's kind of in a respectable position,
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  Speaker 1: and TCU certainly is going to be really hard for
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  Speaker 1: a guy moving up the ladder. To walk in there
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  Speaker 1: and be the big dog immediately, to be the number
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  Speaker 1: one player immediately. I mean, look at the way that
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  Speaker 1: this exists at the University of Utah, right, Like even
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  Speaker 1: Devin Dampier, who came up a level and transferred it
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  Speaker 1: at the quarterback position and safeties are the quarterbacks of
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  Speaker 1: the defense. So there's some things that translate there, But
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback position is the de facto leader of a
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  Speaker 1: football team. That quarterback position is the sort of almost
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  Speaker 1: automatic reference point for leadership in.
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  Speaker 2: A locker room.
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  Speaker 1: And Devin Dampier was excellent at New Mexico and he
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  Speaker 1: was here with his previous coach, right, so it's not
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  Speaker 1: like he has to establish himself independently. Even he's being
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  Speaker 1: brought in with a guy who was already like, that's
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  Speaker 1: my dude, So give him the respect he deserves.
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  Speaker 2: And he had no.
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  Speaker 1: Trouble earning that spot at the University of Utah. But
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  Speaker 1: climbing the ladder from New Mexico, Devin Dampier did not
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  Speaker 1: show up and immediately take the places I am the
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  Speaker 1: best player on this Utah football team. It's just really
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  Speaker 1: impossible to do when you're coming from a mountain west
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  Speaker 1: or a Conference USA or a Sun Belt or something
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  Speaker 1: like that. And it's certainly also the case, maybe even
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  Speaker 1: more so the case when we're talking about like the
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  Speaker 1: big Sky or the guys who come out of you know,
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  Speaker 1: like a swack or a one double a conference. Devin
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  Speaker 1: Dampierre came from New Mexico and immediately became the most
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  Speaker 1: important player on Utah's football team. But the alpha dog,
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  Speaker 1: the biggest dog in that room was not Devin Dampierre.
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  Speaker 2: He was never.
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  Speaker 1: That all last season, right, the ultimate Hey, that's the
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  Speaker 1: guy first off the bus. That's the guy who we
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  Speaker 1: put front foot forward. That was Spencer Fano, someone who
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  Speaker 1: is already in the program.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: So, this Jacob Fields guy shows up at TCU and
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  Speaker 1: he's out there.
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  Speaker 2: Excelling.
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  Speaker 1: He's out there earning a starting spot, a projected starting spot,
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  Speaker 1: and for some reason, for whatever reason, Jacob Fields apparently
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  Speaker 1: could not get on the same page as his locker room,
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  Speaker 1: apparently could not get on the same level as some
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  Speaker 1: of his teammates when it came to communication, to leadership
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  Speaker 1: things like that. The official statement from TCU is due
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  Speaker 1: to a violation of team rules, Jacob Fields has been
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  Speaker 1: removed from a roster will not be a member of
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  Speaker 1: our football team moving forward. It was a fight in
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  Speaker 1: the locker room, and multiple sources are reporting, which means
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  Speaker 1: the he said she said from players is that he
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  Speaker 1: was starting to feel picked on by other players on
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  Speaker 1: the team at practices and his reaction to that ended
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  Speaker 1: up becoming violence, and this fight led to his dismissal
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  Speaker 1: from the team. Again, limited details on this, but you
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  Speaker 1: know how serious a fight has to be to get
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  Speaker 1: you dismissed from a team when you're a projected starter.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think back to the.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so at the University of Utah, right before I
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  Speaker 1: left the University of Utah football team, there was a
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  Speaker 1: fight in the locker room between a highly thought of,
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  Speaker 1: highly regarded recruit and a guy who was like exactly
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  Speaker 1: in my category as a player on that team. He
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  Speaker 1: was a walk on who had been a really good
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  Speaker 1: local football player, high school football player, who didn't get recruited,
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  Speaker 1: didn't really like make any splashes in that regard, ended
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  Speaker 1: up walking on at the University of Utah and was
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  Speaker 1: just by every measure, a rank and file type player.
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  Speaker 1: Right you show up at practice, the coaches kind of
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  Speaker 1: don't care what you're doing. You just keep your head
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  Speaker 1: down and you slog away. You plug away, right. Freshman
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  Speaker 1: kid comes in thinks, as you know what, doesn't stink,
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  Speaker 1: thinks that he can say what he wants to say
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  Speaker 1: to like the older but still not super established walk
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  Speaker 1: on type player. In the locker room, things get a
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  Speaker 1: little bit spicy. Freshman kid thinks he's cooler than he
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  Speaker 1: actually is. Doesn't realize that said player said, walk on
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  Speaker 1: said nobody happened to be a pretty good high school
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  Speaker 1: wrestler as well, and they got in a fight in
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  Speaker 1: the locker room, and the highly rated recruit, I will
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  Speaker 1: tell you, did not even come close to winning that fight.
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  Speaker 1: Even in that case where it's a highly rated recruit,
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  Speaker 1: a decently regarded recruit, and a walk on who by definition,
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  Speaker 1: the coaches don't even really want you there. You're a
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  Speaker 1: walk on, right, They didn't choose to give you something.
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  Speaker 1: Even in that case, he doesn't get kicked off the team,
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  Speaker 1: there's some disciplinary action, there's a wag of the finger
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  Speaker 1: from the coaches. There's a hey, what the heck is
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  Speaker 1: happening between you guys? You're gonna have to walk around
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  Speaker 1: holding hands for the rest of practice. Whatever, it is
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  Speaker 1: even in that case, and that was a pretty decent fight.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody got kicked off the team for it, And that
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  Speaker 1: was a locker room fight. That's a fight that happens
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  Speaker 1: on the field. No one is ever getting kicked off
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  Speaker 1: a team. Coaches don't even care about those things really,
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  Speaker 1: as long as nobody gets injured from it. This Jacob
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  Speaker 1: Fields fight led to a dismissal from the team, as
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  Speaker 1: reported by the Fort Worth Star Telegram and many other sources.
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  Speaker 1: It was a brewing problem that developed into an actual
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  Speaker 1: physical altercation that now changes the dynamic for TCUs football season.
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  Speaker 1: Because this was an incredibly talented player, a projected starter,
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  Speaker 1: a previous Conference USA Defensive Player of the Year, he
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  Speaker 1: was co defensive Player of the Year. But still, that's
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  Speaker 1: the level of contributor that this kid is capable of being,
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  Speaker 1: and he is no longer on the team. That is
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  Speaker 1: something that we should be overwhelmingly relieved. Is not a
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  Speaker 1: story you get out of Utah football very often. You
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  Speaker 1: don't get this out of BYU football very often. You
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  Speaker 1: don't get this out of really any functional football team
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  Speaker 1: all that often. And again, there are always guys that,
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  Speaker 1: even if the culture is great, they don't really integrate themselves.
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  Speaker 1: They don't fit all the way in. There's always gonna
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  Speaker 1: be friction, tension. You get one hundred plus personalities in
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  Speaker 1: a room. Not everybody gets along. Not everybody's gonna be friendly.
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  Speaker 1: Yes you're gonna get some bleep talking. Yes you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get some physical altercation, some fighting, But this one we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get more details. Eventually had to have been really,
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  Speaker 1: really bad in order for a player to get kicked
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  Speaker 1: off the team. And how bad would it have to be. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it would have to be somebody got hurt from it,
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  Speaker 1: like another player genuinely got hurt hurt from it, or
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  Speaker 1: it was kind of like an ambush attack sucker punch
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  Speaker 1: type situation, in which case a coach might feel compelled
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  Speaker 1: to say, hey, you didn't let this guy even defend himself.
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  Speaker 1: You're off the team now. I mean a weapon being
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  Speaker 1: used potentially. The regulation within a locker room, the cell
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  Speaker 1: regulation of a team within a locker room, on the
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  Speaker 1: practice field, in the weight room becomes so massively important
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  Speaker 1: this time of year, during winter conditioning, when you know
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  Speaker 1: the light at the end of the tunnel feels dim. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: you've got a game in a couple of weeks. But
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  Speaker 1: right now, you've been practicing against each other for a
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  Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Now, right and that guy who kept
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  Speaker 1: jawing at you, you're sick of hearing his voice. You
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  Speaker 1: don't like the way this thing is going. The bumps
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  Speaker 1: and the bruises are accumulating. The coach that you never
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  Speaker 1: liked is on your nerves. The player that you never
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  Speaker 1: liked is on your nerves. The waters in the little
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  Speaker 1: water bottles that the managers keep bringing use two dang cold.
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  Speaker 2: Stop putting ice in it. It gives me a headache.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever it is, right, there's they're just things that accumulate
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  Speaker 1: to this point to where you're irritable.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want to be out of practice.
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  Speaker 1: You have to be out of practice, right and Utah Football,
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  Speaker 1: even under a new regime, and maybe even especially under
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  Speaker 1: the new regime, because of the the atmospheric changes in practice,
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  Speaker 1: is not going to have this type of issue where
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  Speaker 1: even when physicality disagreements spicy stuff, when that boils over,
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  Speaker 1: it's not going to be to the point where your
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  Speaker 1: season is affected by it. This is a massive cultural
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  Speaker 1: red flag for TCU, and it might be something that
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  Speaker 1: causes sunny Dykes to reevaluate his portal transfer recruitment process.
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  Speaker 1: Portal transfer transfer, portal recruitment process, the evaluation of personalities,
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  Speaker 1: not just talent, but personalities and how they're going to fit.
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  Speaker 1: And honestly, like, I'm looking at obviously this guy, this
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  Speaker 1: guy who got dismissed. They obviously looked at him and said, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we can't have you anymore. I'm also looking at the
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  Speaker 1: rest of my team, the guys who are still in
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  Speaker 1: the locker room, and I'm going, how the heck did
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  Speaker 1: you get it let it get this bad. I'm looking
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  Speaker 1: at my assistant coaches, particularly the coach in the safety room,
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  Speaker 1: saying how did you let it get this bad that
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  Speaker 1: I had to kick a guy off the team.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if this was if this was Texas.
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  Speaker 1: Tech, or this was BYU, or this was Utah, these
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  Speaker 1: are the top three teams in the Big twelve kind
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  Speaker 1: of by consensus. If this were Texas Tech, this would
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  Speaker 1: be a huge national story right now and people would
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: be saying, man, Joey McGuire has lost the plot. They
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  Speaker 1: didn't get the sores mey thing figured out right, They
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  Speaker 1: identified the wrong guy. They wasted a bunch of time money,
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  Speaker 1: energy effort on that. And now look at this top
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  Speaker 1: safety they had transfer in. He was the wrong guy too.
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  Speaker 1: What's going on with the talent evaluation the personality evaluation
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  Speaker 1: at Texas Tech? If this was at BYU, obviously it'd
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  Speaker 1: be massive story for similar reasons. Oh can you believe it?
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  Speaker 1: This was supposed to be the team that had it
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  Speaker 1: all figured out? And look at this, this kid who
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  Speaker 1: they brought in to play alongside Falatao Satawala is now.
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  Speaker 2: Off the team.
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  Speaker 1: Right If this was happening at the University of Utah,
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  Speaker 1: I would be hitting a panic button saying, hold on
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  Speaker 1: a minute. I never thought on Morgan Scalley's watch you'd
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  Speaker 1: get something like this because you know what, it doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: It won't happen. I'll tell you why unless someone is
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  Speaker 1: just an actual like schizophrenic Colton Swan, sharif Shaw and
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  Speaker 1: okay Brectorfield there. Luther ellis right. These guys are not
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  Speaker 1: just coaches. They have the leadership mentorship gene where they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna come in and they're gonna say whoa, whoa, whoa.
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  Speaker 1: I heard what you said a practice. I saw the
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  Speaker 1: tension developing. I saw a couple of helmet slaps. I
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  Speaker 1: saw a couple of extra face mask grabs, and you guys,
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  Speaker 1: John back and forth, let's nip this in the bud
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  Speaker 1: so it doesn't affect your season. It doesn't affect your season.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't affect my season. It doesn't affect our season.
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  Speaker 1: This is insane, a player of this caliber being dismissed
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  Speaker 1: from a team. I want more details. But as I
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  Speaker 1: look at it through the Utah lens, because that's how
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  Speaker 1: I view all stories right now in college football, I'm
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  Speaker 1: looking at it with an immense sense of relief and
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  Speaker 1: confidence that you don't have to stress over this type
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  Speaker 1: of thing with Utah football. You don't have to worry
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  Speaker 1: about something getting that far out of hand. And look,
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  Speaker 1: there were guys, there have been guys even recently in
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  Speaker 1: the program where it was not easy. It doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: to be easy for the chemistry to work out properly.
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  Speaker 1: I mean Tavian Thomas is the best example recently we
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: have this with Utah football.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Right I have a lot of.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Sympathy for Tavian Thomas because he went through an awful
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: lot in his personal life with personal loss and tragedy
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: and things like that. While he was also making the
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: life transition of moving to a place in Utah. They
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of deep intuitive connection to They
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: got for a season, they got greatness out of him,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: they got great production out of him. And then even
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Quenton Ganther, who's just an absolute stud of a coach,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: was not able to get on the same page as
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: that player, right, was not able to really figure out
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: how to get through how to stop the Hey I
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: need more, I want more.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Hey, I'm not going to do this.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Hey I'm going to show up in shape like for
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: whatever reason, it just that was something that you couldn't
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: maintain your grasp on and it was unfortunate, and it
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: is unfortunate still that you never got another run at
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: you know, Tavi on Thomas really trying to be a
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: great back, because for that one year he was a
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: great back.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: But look at what Utah football was and still is.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: The rest of the team, as much as it can be,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: gets insulated from something like that, to where even when
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: this great player or potentially great player has kind of
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: removed himself with his own behaviors and with a lack
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: of compliance from remove themselves from your game plan, the
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: rest of the team doesn't have to face the headline
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: fallout and things like that.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: That's I mean, that's the.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Most recent example you've got with Utah football. And it
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: was not the reason, right that your offense struggled. It
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: was not the reason why anything changed drastically because you
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: had the depty needed and also because there were bigger
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: fish to fry with injury situations that never really got resolved,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. So pretty crazy situation right now.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: As you look around college football, you look around football
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: camps and you see, all right by Saturday, by this Saturday,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: and a lot of guys will be running their kind
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: of final scrimmages. These coaches want to have a pecking order.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: They want to know who their starters are. Now TCU,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: who I would put in the second tier of teams
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: in the Big twelve Conference is going to have to
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: figure out who they're starting one of their starting safeties.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Is say a little thank you to the football gods,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: if you're a ute fan out there, that you've got
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: the right guys on the team, you got the right
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: guys leading the team. So that headlines like this are
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: going to be not completely absent, but fewer and further
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: between and I should be fair to Sunny Dikes and
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: say his program is usually not the program that you
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: report on this type of stuff. Right the other there
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: are other schools that this becomes a little bit more
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: of a predictable outcome. I will say that that's not
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: a Sunny Dikes thing.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: It's not a Texas Tech thing.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: My guy Zach has once again been listening to me
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: philibuster for twenty five minutes or so. He's here behind
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: the glass filling in for James. Hey, Hello, how are you.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Great? How are you? I'm doing great. I'm tired, a
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: little tired.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: But you know, honestly, like after hearing you ran about
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: this end of the day, your play determines on how
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: you play. I don't think fighting is the answer. I
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: honestly like just let your play do the talking at
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: this point. Yeah, there's gon miss some jawing. There's like
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: we see this with you know, NFL training camps and
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: you know, joint practices with other teams, like yesterday is
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Saints Saints and I think the Cowboys. I might be wrong,
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: but they just had a fight breakout. They had like
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: seven fights breakout. Yeah, and we talked about I talked
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: about last week.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: How you know Spencer Fano fighting Jared Verse was actually
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: good for the Browns because, first of all, they didn't
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: miss any reps. Those guys didn't take at to take
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: time off practice. They didn't have to interrupt practice like
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: it's it's a normal thing when it's on the field altercations.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: My I go back to my own terrible career in football. Uh,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: my guy, Scott Yost, shout out to you, baller. He
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: was our best physical specimen of a player six' five
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: two seventy two eighty in high, school really athletic offensive. Tackle.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Right he AND i would get into it a. Practice
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: i'd be playing, linebacker he'd be playing. Tackle we get
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: into it a. Practice we do one on one pass rush. Drills,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Right i'd line up on the, edge try to get around,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Him he'd. Hold i'dell at him for. Holding i'd shove
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: him things like. That, Right he's one still to this,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: day one of my best friends in the. World right
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: back then we were even closer best. Friends like we
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: rode to school together every single. Day we had another
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: guy on the team come up to us and just be, Like,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: hey are you guys? OKAY i really don't, want like
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: you're both team, CAPTAINS i don't want this to affect
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: and we kind of laughed it, off, like, no, man
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: that's just competitiveness coming out when it's on the, field
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: And i'm not telling people things they don't. Know when
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: it's on the, field it's. Fine maybe a little too
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: much in That Cowboy saints practice when it's an altercation between.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: TEAMMATES i actually Want lance Host claw And Zaraway williams
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: to be talking back and forth to each. OTHER i actually,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: want Like devin Dan pierre told us last year that
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Lander barton was constantly jawing at, him that he and
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Lander barton had like a really interesting dynamic where during
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: practice they were always competing with each other and they were,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: talking you know, what to each other at, practice and.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: That, is in my, opinion that is a successful.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Dynamic you want guys to not just be competitive with one,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: another to be like fiery to the point of boiling
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: over competitive with one.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Another, however you have to be able to.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Compartmentalize you have to have the, maturity the team culture
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: and the team, chemistry and if failing, that you have
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: to have the coaching intervention to where it does not
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: boil over into the lunch. Room it doesn't boil over
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: into the locker. Room it doesn't boil over into the film.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Room it doesn't become something that forces you as a
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: coach to disqualify someone even from a, game.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Much less from a whole.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Season and, now if You're Jacob, fields whatever you did,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: right however bad that this this thing got, you now
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: don't have recourse to go play somewhere. Else there is
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: no transfer portal window that you can capitalize. On you've
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: been dismissed from the team AT. Tcu you better get your,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: button class. Man, yep make sure that you make sure
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: that you get your good grades and you get those
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: those credits to. Transfer that's really. Crazy all, right that's
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: enough me ranting about team cultures and stuff like. That
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: i'm very Excited Ryan leaf is going to join. Us,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: next you'll Hear Ryan leaf and See Ryan leaf on
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: THE Usa network with the New, Reconstructed Reimagine pack twelve,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: conference where of course The aggies will Play.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Ryan lee to talk all things college.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Football, next It's The shan O'Connell show ON espn seven
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: hundred and NINETY.
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  Speaker 4: To The shan O'Connell show from The Murdoch Chevrolet studio
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: OF espn seven hundred at ninety two one ALF m.
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  Speaker 5: Silence.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to The shan O'Connell.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Show welcome in college football, Legend my good, Buddy Ryan.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Leaf so nice to reconnect With Ryan, leaf who will
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: be the LEAD pac twelve analyst on THE Usa sports
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: this year as there's a new era OF pac twelve. Football, Ryan,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: sir how are you welcome to the show?
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: Again thank, you my.
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: Friend it's been a. While how are you doing doing?
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Great?
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Man you, know three, kids oldest back in school as of,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: yesterday and just plug it.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Along how are you and the? Family?
• 29:55
  Speaker 8: Babe sean has three kids now he's got us Beat
• 30:03
  Speaker 8: now he's got three. KIDS i think last time we saw,
• 30:05
  Speaker 8: YOU i mean when you got when you came up
• 30:08
  Speaker 8: to the spot In Park, city you only have the.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: One, YEAH i think we did only have.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: One NOW i got three little girls seven seven four and,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: two seven.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Four and two.
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 30:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah mcguver's eight bo is.
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: Two.
• 30:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah so we're a little bit behind. YOU i don't
• 30:26
  Speaker 8: know if that's gonna.
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: Change you, Know i'm an old, man so, Well.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: I'm not exactly young.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Either but, uh by the, way being an old dad
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: is awesome because you, know you get all the selfish
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: stuff out of the way when you're, young and then
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: you get to just be pouring too your kids when
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: you're our.
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: AGE i, DUDE i agree.
• 30:44
  Speaker 8: TOTALLY i mean IT'S i TOOK i turned fifty this.
• 30:47
  Speaker 8: Year i'll be sixty five when she graduates high. SCHOOL
• 30:51
  Speaker 8: i just feel like it's there's a there's a youthfulness
• 30:55
  Speaker 8: and an innocence that's keeping me that way, too watching
• 30:58
  Speaker 8: it through their, eyes Which I'VE i love so LIKE
• 31:01
  Speaker 8: i have NO i have no.
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: You, know.
• 31:05
  Speaker 8: Instinct it all to live vicariously through. Them like so
• 31:07
  Speaker 8: my son's playing sports, Now i'm just, like you, KNOW
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: i just love watching him compete and enjoy the ride home.
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: Afterwards and it's that's that's the fun. PART i like
• 31:18
  Speaker 8: have no no, uh you, know competition of me involved
• 31:23
  Speaker 8: in anything when it comes to any of that.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Stuff, now your your lovely wife also an, Athlete SO
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: i imagine the children are at least genetically going to
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: be predisposed to some excellence. There but are you do
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: you already recognize it an eight year old some of
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: your own, competitiveness some of your own sort of mentality
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: in your.
• 31:42
  Speaker 8: Son, yeah he came down from the playroom the other
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: night upset and we didn't know what was, wrong AND
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: i was like trying to get him to communicate his
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: feelings and everything like, that AND i sat him on
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: my lap and BECAUSE i, thought, maybe you, know the
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: fact that we made him come down and eat. Dinner you,
• 31:58
  Speaker 8: know that can always be a real trigger for these
• 32:00
  Speaker 8: eight year, olds you, know having them to stop doing
• 32:01
  Speaker 8: what they're. Doing but he he's been trying this new soccer,
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: move this this this, kick rainbow, kick and he was
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: just so frustrated that he wasn't able to do. It
• 32:16
  Speaker 8: so he was like almost, crying AND i sat with.
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: HIM i was, like, well, hey you, KNOW i know
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: nothing about, soccer SO i can't really teach. You SO
• 32:22
  Speaker 8: i said we can look up like YouTube, tutorials and
• 32:26
  Speaker 8: he was like it just changed. Immediately he watched. Him
• 32:30
  Speaker 8: and then last night he had he called me up
• 32:31
  Speaker 8: to the play ruiny and he had it. Down he's
• 32:33
  Speaker 8: kicking up all over the top of his head and
• 32:35
  Speaker 8: running it. DOWN i, mean, yeah he's only thinking about.
• 32:38
  Speaker 8: Soccer for, Him he's probably gonna be like six. Nine
• 32:40
  Speaker 8: SO i don't know if that's going to be a
• 32:42
  Speaker 8: soccer player that everybody's looking at out, there but maybe a.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: GOALIE i, mean he's only.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Eight he'll figure it out between now and. Whatever he's
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: got to figure it.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Out all.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Right so back IN pac twelve, country now THE pac
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: twelve reconstituted version of the. Conference you're alma, Mater Washington
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: state still, There Oregon state's still, There Utah state up
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: In logan still going to. Be they're going to be
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: a new part of THE pac. Twelve give me a
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: sense of your your level of you, know intrigue optimism
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: over what this RECONSTITUTED pac twelve conference is going to
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: be on the national.
• 33:14
  Speaker 8: Landscape, WELL i think you, know it immediately becomes the
• 33:18
  Speaker 8: fifth best conference in all of college. Football you could maybe,
• 33:23
  Speaker 8: argue because of the lack of its, size it could
• 33:27
  Speaker 8: be as competitive as THE acc in some. Settings so you,
• 33:33
  Speaker 8: know this was a vision That Teresa gould had when
• 33:36
  Speaker 8: the relignment happened and everybody vacated THE pac twelve and
• 33:40
  Speaker 8: Left Washington state And Oregon state. BEHIND i don't think
• 33:43
  Speaker 8: there was ever a moment where either one of those
• 33:45
  Speaker 8: teams after they had met With Teresa gould that they
• 33:48
  Speaker 8: were going to go anywhere. Else they were going to
• 33:50
  Speaker 8: rebuild the brand of what The pac twelve. Was and
• 33:54
  Speaker 8: this is the vision that has become a reality now
• 33:57
  Speaker 8: that that became a Live july, first and we'll have
• 34:01
  Speaker 8: their first games kickoff On september. Fifth you, know this
• 34:06
  Speaker 8: this is a conference that HAS, uh you, know has
• 34:09
  Speaker 8: some bold ideas about what they want to be in
• 34:11
  Speaker 8: a college football landscape that is incredibly confusing out there regionality.
• 34:17
  Speaker 8: Wise you, Know Texas state is the lone school that's
• 34:21
  Speaker 8: outside The mountain And pacific time. Zone so you, KNOW i,
• 34:25
  Speaker 8: think you, know this will be a much different look
• 34:28
  Speaker 8: than than a lot of those other conferences that in
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: terms of travel and regionality and things like. That So i'm.
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: Excited it was a really neat offer to head the
• 34:37
  Speaker 8: group FOR Usa sports and their inaugural year of their
• 34:40
  Speaker 8: five year contract to broadcast the league AND uh and
• 34:45
  Speaker 8: we open Up september fifth With wyoming At Colorado state
• 34:49
  Speaker 8: For Jim MORA uh and his introduction to The pac twelve.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: CONFERENCE a lot.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Of conversation in college, football especially this time of, year
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: AND i can't wait for it to go. Away we
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: can do x's and, o's but you know there's these
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: resource conversations and can you?
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Compete do you have the money to? Compete are you
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: just gonna?
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Develop if you're A pac twelve, team, now if you're
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: A CONFERENCE usa, team you're just going to develop the
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: NEXT sec players And big ten? Players and are your
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: coaches going to be able to retain. Anything i'm intrigued
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: by THIS pac twelve BECAUSE i know plenty of people
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: up In logan At Utah state and oh guys on
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: that coaching, STAFF i have a decent sense of what
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: their resources look, like what their nil looks. LIKE i
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: don't know what it looks like For Washington state And
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Oregon state right now because of where they come from
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: and how much holdover there is RIGHT i don't know what.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: It's like For Boise.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: State is there a significant disparity right now between the
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: top of this new conference and the bottom of this
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: new conference when it comes to available resources relative to their.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: COMPETITORS i don't think.
• 35:54
  Speaker 8: So but you, know we won't know a lot of
• 35:57
  Speaker 8: this until we play in the. Games and to your
• 36:00
  Speaker 8: point and how you started it all this, expeculative you
• 36:03
  Speaker 8: know a lot of, times you could spend a lot
• 36:05
  Speaker 8: of money and resources towards getting these, players and you,
• 36:09
  Speaker 8: know do you have the right coach that can essentially
• 36:12
  Speaker 8: put together a team of mercenaries year in year, out
• 36:15
  Speaker 8: because that's what it's ultimately going to. BE i, mean
• 36:17
  Speaker 8: you look at some of these rosters around the country
• 36:19
  Speaker 8: and there's an instance where there's seventy new players on a.
• 36:23
  Speaker 8: Roster so you can't go into what you thought last.
• 36:26
  Speaker 8: Year you can't really go into what the rankings are
• 36:28
  Speaker 8: preseason thinking that this team should be, good so let's
• 36:32
  Speaker 8: rank them. High the fact that they do that and
• 36:35
  Speaker 8: continue to do that is it kind of falls in
• 36:36
  Speaker 8: line with the resources and support angle of things in
• 36:40
  Speaker 8: terms of what you think it's going to. Be and
• 36:42
  Speaker 8: SO i do feel like all the, programs the sixth in,
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: particular that are coming to THE pac, twelve there's been
• 36:50
  Speaker 8: a there's been a real upstart in support because of
• 36:54
  Speaker 8: the brand of the conference that we went around about
• 36:58
  Speaker 8: two weeks ago and saw four of the, universities three
• 37:01
  Speaker 8: of which are entering the NEW pac, twelve and you
• 37:05
  Speaker 8: could hear and see the influence with the athletic, directors
• 37:09
  Speaker 8: the presidents of the university on, campus the things in
• 37:14
  Speaker 8: the support that has been given because of the brand
• 37:17
  Speaker 8: of THE pac twelve and how that has influenced.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: It last year in the Expanded College Football, playoff you
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: had two Non power four teams crack that field of,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: twelve and that was not according to the plans of
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: the powers that, Be so the automatic qualifier status got
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: changed up a little. Bit But i'm still looking at
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: like A Boise, State i'm still looking At Washington, state
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: And i'm, Thinking, man can one of these New pac
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: twelve teams be A College Football playoff. Team you've had
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: an opportunity to be closer to this and to talk
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: to some of the PEOPLE i haven't been able to talk,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: to is that the vision for the eventual conference Champ,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: like not only are we going to be the NEW
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: pac twelve, champs but in that conversation for a college football, Playoff,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: yeah that was.
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: The hope from the.
• 38:09
  Speaker 8: Start, so you, Know i've had to have a lot
• 38:12
  Speaker 8: of hard discussions With Washington state fans and supporters over
• 38:16
  Speaker 8: the last couple of years in the development of this
• 38:18
  Speaker 8: NEW pac twelve. CONFERENCE i have to make it very
• 38:21
  Speaker 8: clear to them That Washington state has a better chance
• 38:23
  Speaker 8: to play in The College Football playoff than they ever
• 38:26
  Speaker 8: had in the Old pac. Twelve they haven't won a
• 38:30
  Speaker 8: championship since two thousand and. Three you, know as much
• 38:33
  Speaker 8: as they Revered Mike leach and everything he was able
• 38:35
  Speaker 8: to do At Washington, state they'd never won. Anything they
• 38:37
  Speaker 8: didn't win a, division they didn't play for A pac twelve,
• 38:40
  Speaker 8: championship none of. It so this Gives Washington state and
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: some of the TEAMS i think at the very, Top Boise,
• 38:46
  Speaker 8: state who was just there two years, Ago Oregon, state
• 38:49
  Speaker 8: and you, know you don't quite know what the other
• 38:51
  Speaker 8: teams are going to present to at the. Table it
• 38:54
  Speaker 8: gives them the best shot to play for a college
• 38:55
  Speaker 8: football playoff than they ever HAD i think in their previous.
• 38:59
  Speaker 8: Conferences they're excited for. That the biggest THING i have
• 39:04
  Speaker 8: AND i love about this conference so far AS i
• 39:07
  Speaker 8: have no idea who you would pick to come out on,
• 39:09
  Speaker 8: TOP i Think Boise, state you would think just because of,
• 39:12
  Speaker 8: expectations prior, history the ability to keep a lot of
• 39:16
  Speaker 8: their roster. Together but you have no. Idea and my only,
• 39:21
  Speaker 8: fear kind of like the Old pac, twelve like you AND.
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: I used to talk about all the, time was how they.
• 39:25
  Speaker 8: Could can cannibalize one. Another you, know if you have
• 39:27
  Speaker 8: a team that wins the conference championships sitting at nine to,
• 39:30
  Speaker 8: three you know it's that a team that's going to
• 39:32
  Speaker 8: get into The college For Well. Playoff, well you, know
• 39:35
  Speaker 8: they may still be highly ranked as THE pac twelve,
• 39:37
  Speaker 8: champion and that's ultimately what it takes to The college
• 39:39
  Speaker 8: For Well playoff, guidelines the fifth highest ranked conference champion
• 39:44
  Speaker 8: gets into The College Football. Playoff and SO i think
• 39:47
  Speaker 8: that puts THE pac twelve and these eight schools in
• 39:51
  Speaker 8: a very good position to come knocking on the door
• 39:54
  Speaker 8: of the Collegeur Well playoff once the end Of november.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Comes Ryan leaf is our guest here on The sean O'Connell,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: show a RECONSTITUTED pac twelve, conference, where of, course The
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Utah State aggies will be plying their trade this upcoming
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: college football. Season Bronco Benden hall has been a really
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: high level coach for a very long. Time spent a
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: lot of time AT, byu had success At, virginia stepped
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: away from the sport for a, while came back with
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: The Utah state, opportunity did some good things with that
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: group last. YEAR i look at teams Like Utah. STATE
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: i look at, teams a lot of these teams in
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: THE pac twelve conference and where other. PLACES a lot
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: of it, is, hey do you have the money to
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: compete in The big?
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Twelve do you have the money to compete in THE?
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Acc do you have enough to get these five star
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: recruits in The big? TEN i think coaching matters more
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: in The big, twelve or excuse, me in the in
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: THE pac twelve right now than it does in most
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: of these other. Conferences and The aggies have a good.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: One what is your sense of what that team could
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: be in this new?
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: CONFERENCE i.
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  Speaker 8: AGREE i think coaching plays a year role in this
• 41:01
  Speaker 8: aspect of. THINGS i think it plays a huge role
• 41:03
  Speaker 8: at the at the tops of those other conferences, Too
• 41:05
  Speaker 8: like you, know AND i talked about the gathering a
• 41:08
  Speaker 8: team full of mercenaries and putting the team together every.
• 41:10
  Speaker 8: Year you, KNOW i don't know if there's a better
• 41:11
  Speaker 8: one out there than Then Lane. Kippen you, Know Mel
• 41:15
  Speaker 8: tucker was extremely good.
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: At, that you, know his early ten year there At Michigan.
• 41:19
  Speaker 7: State so you find the.
• 41:21
  Speaker 8: Right coach who can meld, together you, know players that
• 41:25
  Speaker 8: weren't on the roster a year, ago holdovers guys that are,
• 41:29
  Speaker 8: developing and possibly it could be viewed as a you,
• 41:33
  Speaker 8: know a player that's going to step up to a
• 41:34
  Speaker 8: higher level the next, year but you need to utilize
• 41:37
  Speaker 8: him the most this.
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: Year you, know those types of coaches are a big.
• 41:40
  Speaker 8: Deal AND i Think bronco's definitely an individual that can
• 41:42
  Speaker 8: get the most out of his. Guys you, know this
• 41:45
  Speaker 8: is a new era of college, football and so some
• 41:48
  Speaker 8: of the guys that have been in it for a long,
• 41:49
  Speaker 8: time you are you're going to find out pretty quick
• 41:53
  Speaker 8: whether or not they can meld to what this new
• 41:56
  Speaker 8: format of what college football looks. Like SO i think
• 41:58
  Speaker 8: there's some really good in this. Conference you, know there's
• 42:01
  Speaker 8: a lot of new. COACHES i think Coach moore brings
• 42:03
  Speaker 8: the you, know a ton of respect because of what
• 42:07
  Speaker 8: he was able to do At. YUKON i, mean the
• 42:09
  Speaker 8: guy has been spectacular no matter where he's. Gone, immediately you,
• 42:12
  Speaker 8: know you look at his time At yukon and turning
• 42:15
  Speaker 8: that program around right, away and then you look at
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: his time in THE nfl with The Atlanta falcons and
• 42:21
  Speaker 8: his first year with, them they go to THE Nfc Championship.
• 42:23
  Speaker 8: Game so he knows what it takes to get the
• 42:25
  Speaker 8: best out of, somebody and maybe a team that he
• 42:27
  Speaker 8: hasn't coached before to get them to. Believe really like
• 42:30
  Speaker 8: What Kirby moore was bringing to the table so far
• 42:32
  Speaker 8: At Washington. State but, again you, know until the games are,
• 42:35
  Speaker 8: played you don't quite.
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: Know And Washington state has to Play washington In.
• 42:38
  Speaker 8: Week one for The Apple. Cups that would be very
• 42:41
  Speaker 8: very interesting to see how they, start how they deal with,
• 42:44
  Speaker 8: failure how they deal with, success all those. Things when
• 42:47
  Speaker 8: you have a new head coach in, place with this
• 42:49
  Speaker 8: new landscape of college.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: FOOTBALL i hope you don't mind me expanding the scope
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: of our conversation a little bit outside of The pac.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Twelve but you, know you've been around the game of
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: football for a long. Time you've experienced the high highs
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: and some of the lows associated with, it and you
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: know there's an insight that comes from your level of,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: experience especially playing the quarterback. Position we got a really
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: interesting situation at The university Of utah right now where
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: a guy who'd been in place for twenty one years
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: as the head coach is no longer there and the
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: heir apparent has always Been Morgan, scalley and now he
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: takes the reins for real for the first. Time but
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: he does this with a new offensive. Coordinator he does
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: this with a quarterback who we have very high hopes,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: for but who had followed the previous offensive coordinator on
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: his path up through college football relative to That. Ryan
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: when it's a relationship you, have especially a close one
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: with your offensive, coordinator and then you have to experience a,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: switch what does that do for a quarterback or maybe
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: to a, Quarterback, well it.
• 43:53
  Speaker 8: Could be very, daunting you, know especially when you go
• 43:57
  Speaker 8: to a, university you usually go for the. COACH i
• 44:00
  Speaker 8: mean the REASON i went To Washington state was because
• 44:02
  Speaker 8: Of Mike, price. RIGHT i MEAN i can't imagine year
• 44:05
  Speaker 8: or two into that if he were to have left
• 44:07
  Speaker 8: and the offense THAT i was learning and. Developing you,
• 44:10
  Speaker 8: know the best thing that happened to me WAS i
• 44:12
  Speaker 8: was with him for four years and by the time
• 44:14
  Speaker 8: we got to That Rose bull, season you, KNOW i
• 44:17
  Speaker 8: could read what he wanted to do on every single.
• 44:20
  Speaker 8: Play we just we just knew. It so that's always
• 44:23
  Speaker 8: a difficult. Transition, okay it doesn't mean it's. Insurmountable you,
• 44:26
  Speaker 8: know you have a good game plan. You and another
• 44:29
  Speaker 8: thing is if your offensive coordinator is willing to do
• 44:31
  Speaker 8: things that really showcase and highlight you as a. Player
• 44:35
  Speaker 8: sometimes offensive coordinators and head coaches in, particular they're still
• 44:39
  Speaker 8: set their ways that they don't get out of their own.
• 44:42
  Speaker 8: Way they, say my way, works do it my, way
• 44:45
  Speaker 8: and that's how we were, successful when in this day and,
• 44:48
  Speaker 8: age that's not how it. WORKS i, mean you look
• 44:50
  Speaker 8: At sean McVay when he took over for The. Rams
• 44:53
  Speaker 8: he looked At Jared goff and you, know after that
• 44:55
  Speaker 8: first year With Jeff, fisher who just tried to impose
• 44:59
  Speaker 8: every everything that he, Did Sehana bay came in and,
• 45:03
  Speaker 8: said what do you do? Best and let's how do
• 45:05
  Speaker 8: we how do we make us great because of what
• 45:07
  Speaker 8: you do? Great and SO i hope that's the same
• 45:09
  Speaker 8: situation you have and In Salt Lake city there In,
• 45:12
  Speaker 8: utah that someone that comes in and is willing to
• 45:17
  Speaker 8: have a theory and have a plan and a scheme together,
• 45:19
  Speaker 8: offensively but know how to get it done with the
• 45:23
  Speaker 8: guy that's that's the one that's cashing your checks for you,
• 45:27
  Speaker 8: essentially and that's important fast to find out and you'll
• 45:30
  Speaker 8: find that out pretty. Quick you, know you find out
• 45:32
  Speaker 8: pretty quick and early games on what that scheme and
• 45:35
  Speaker 8: what that transition is going to look.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Like there's a cliche that gets thrown, around And i'm
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: guilty of throwing it around myself that you should, always you,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: know experience a big leap forward in your second year
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: as a, starter especially if it's freshman to sophomore. Year
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: and you, KNOW byu had Bear bachmeyer last year coming
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: as a freshman and look, great and now he's going
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: into his second year as a, starter his second year
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: in college football as a guy who's played that, position
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: what is that growth like from year one to year?
• 46:09
  Speaker 8: Two you don't, ACTUALLY i don't think you actually recognize
• 46:14
  Speaker 8: it that it's. Happening you're just doing the, work and
• 46:17
  Speaker 8: then you get into games that things seem to have
• 46:19
  Speaker 8: slowed down a, bit that that seemingly felt like what
• 46:22
  Speaker 8: it was for, me even so much SO i started
• 46:25
  Speaker 8: my last, couple you, know my last couple of games
• 46:27
  Speaker 8: of my freshman, year and then my next year it
• 46:30
  Speaker 8: felt like things that started to slow. Down and then
• 46:32
  Speaker 8: when we played some really elite defenses and, teams you could,
• 46:36
  Speaker 8: see you, know some of the, patterns you, know weren't
• 46:40
  Speaker 8: as weren't as slowed down and you had to improve
• 46:42
  Speaker 8: on them and things like. That and then going into
• 46:44
  Speaker 8: year three in that, SYSTEM i, mean it was like
• 46:47
  Speaker 8: everything had come to a stop AND i could kind
• 46:49
  Speaker 8: of dictate everything that was going. On SO i would
• 46:53
  Speaker 8: anticipate that he will feel very comfortable with what's, happening you,
• 46:58
  Speaker 8: know at bottom, line and it comes down to the competition.
• 47:01
  Speaker 8: Level you, know when you get into those most competitive,
• 47:03
  Speaker 8: situations you, know when they're trying to limit you and
• 47:05
  Speaker 8: what you do, best how you deal with. That you,
• 47:08
  Speaker 8: know do you deal it with that in a healthy
• 47:10
  Speaker 8: positive way or you know that's what you. Hope but you're,
• 47:14
  Speaker 8: right there's a significant. Leap you, know you should learn
• 47:17
  Speaker 8: and you should get better each and every time you
• 47:20
  Speaker 8: step on the football. Field and sometimes that gets you,
• 47:23
  Speaker 8: know interrupted during the season because from what the off
• 47:27
  Speaker 8: season brings because it gets so, long injuries happen and
• 47:30
  Speaker 8: things of that. Nature but there should be a significant
• 47:33
  Speaker 8: leap in terms of how he sees the, field how
• 47:36
  Speaker 8: he interprets what defenses are trying to do to, him
• 47:39
  Speaker 8: and then the communication level between him and his coaches
• 47:43
  Speaker 8: on how they want to get things. Done and when
• 47:44
  Speaker 8: things go, bad how to fix?
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Them Ryan, lee for another minute or two here on
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: The sean O'Connell. Show you MADE i don't know if
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: you would call it a side hustle if it's your main,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: passion but you've made a successful path in doing a
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: bunch of these speaking engagements and talking, about you, know
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: some of your struggles and the cautionary tale of you,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: know being accountable and all these great. Things AND i
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: wonder what advice you might have For Puka, nakula who
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: obviously played his high school ball. Here the Whole nakoupa
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: family has connections in our home state In. Utah he's
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: right now the best young or one of the top
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: three young wide receivers in the. League it seems like
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: the only thing standing in the way of. Him and you,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: know not only being the highest paid wide receiver ever
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: at least for a, time but also achieving true greatness
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: at THE nfl level is his own kind of Like,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: tomfoolery what advice would you have for somebody Like Poka
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: nakula right now who's got everything in front of.
• 48:43
  Speaker 8: Him, WELL i can relate to him so so easily
• 48:47
  Speaker 8: in terms of feeling like you're a pretty much, bulletproof you.
• 48:51
  Speaker 8: KNOW i do feel like some of the steps he
• 48:54
  Speaker 8: made this, offseason you, know seeking, support going to, rehab
• 48:58
  Speaker 8: things like, that seemed like it was going in the right.
• 49:00
  Speaker 8: Direction so you'd like to think there's been a an
• 49:06
  Speaker 8: improvement in that aspect of things and how he's dealing with.
• 49:09
  Speaker 7: Stuff but it fascinates.
• 49:11
  Speaker 8: Me WHEN i see it play out in real time
• 49:14
  Speaker 8: with some of these young players who are so successful
• 49:16
  Speaker 8: and are having so much, success BECAUSE i, go how
• 49:20
  Speaker 8: could they be doing? That and THEN i think back
• 49:22
  Speaker 8: to WHERE i was in that place WHERE i.
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: Was just not listening to. ANYBODY i was just.
• 49:25
  Speaker 8: Doing WHATEVER i wanted to do BECAUSE i THOUGHT i
• 49:28
  Speaker 8: was right and no one could tell me any. Different
• 49:30
  Speaker 8: and the biggest thing For pooka is like he hasn't
• 49:32
  Speaker 8: gotten paid. Yet he's still you, know being paid on
• 49:35
  Speaker 8: his rookie, contract where he was a you, know a draft,
• 49:39
  Speaker 8: pick further down than anybody expected that he would would
• 49:44
  Speaker 8: be this, good you, Know and so you don't want
• 49:46
  Speaker 8: to interrupt, that you, Know and if he's willing to
• 49:50
  Speaker 8: act out in this way and kind of do whatever
• 49:52
  Speaker 8: he wants to before that it comes to fruition that's
• 49:55
  Speaker 8: that's a scary proposition to. HAVE i did like the
• 49:58
  Speaker 8: signs of this aw. Season LIKE i, said it looked
• 50:01
  Speaker 8: like he was trying to make some. Improvements LIKE i
• 50:04
  Speaker 8: tell all, Players i've spoken to seventy nine universities now
• 50:07
  Speaker 8: ever Since alabama coach Had Nick saban brought me in
• 50:10
  Speaker 8: almost ten years. Ago you, know there's. Nothing there is.
• 50:14
  Speaker 8: NOTHING i. Know you have all these resources at your
• 50:17
  Speaker 8: fingertips now with social media and the player's tribute and
• 50:21
  Speaker 8: your ability to speak directly to your your fans and
• 50:24
  Speaker 8: the public without necessarily an interpreter with the, media there
• 50:30
  Speaker 8: really isn't much benefit to you talking while you're a,
• 50:36
  Speaker 8: player plain and. Simple the only focus is you should
• 50:40
  Speaker 8: be the head of A fortune five hundred, company which
• 50:42
  Speaker 8: is you as a player at THE nfl. Level you,
• 50:46
  Speaker 8: know when it's all said and, done because these careers
• 50:48
  Speaker 8: are so, short you can have the rest of your
• 50:50
  Speaker 8: life to be a dog. Want it's not going to
• 50:53
  Speaker 8: transfer into, more you, know endorsement. Dollars if you're good,
• 50:56
  Speaker 8: Enough if you're a good enough, player that's going to
• 50:59
  Speaker 8: take care of. Itself and so that's a hard thing
• 51:01
  Speaker 8: to ask them because no one wants to certainly hear
• 51:04
  Speaker 8: that from me, Especially it's still important THAT i give
• 51:07
  Speaker 8: that give them that. Advice you, know years down the
• 51:11
  Speaker 8: line or after some, troubles they may be able to
• 51:13
  Speaker 8: look back on it and, go, oh those are the
• 51:15
  Speaker 8: words that hit me WHEN i needed it the, most you,
• 51:18
  Speaker 8: Know and that's the important piece on WHY i continue
• 51:20
  Speaker 8: to do.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: It as you have gone around to these campuses and
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: had an opportunity to talk to coaches and, players how
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: different are players? Now how professional are? THEY i, mean these,
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: guys some of them are making millions of. Dollars even
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: those who aren't making millions might be setting themselves up
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: with at least a little nest egg or a house
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: payment or something like. That how much have you watched
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: in these tennis years that the student athlete? Change as
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: you've gone around to these multiple, CAMPUSES.
• 51:50
  Speaker 8: I THINK i agree with you in terms of the
• 51:51
  Speaker 8: professionalism of. It you, KNOW i was just at The
• 51:54
  Speaker 8: Washington state you know Camp Fall, camp and they are
• 52:00
  Speaker 8: pretty much running it like a professional. Camp the way
• 52:03
  Speaker 8: the walkthroughs, exist the, practice the time, off the, nutrition
• 52:07
  Speaker 8: the strength and. CONDITION i, mean it's you, know if
• 52:10
  Speaker 8: you're going to be paid like, PROFESSIONALS i think these
• 52:13
  Speaker 8: coaches are starting to understand that we're going to treat
• 52:16
  Speaker 8: you like professionals in terms of how we prepare and
• 52:18
  Speaker 8: go about. Business AND i feel Like i've seen a.
• 52:21
  Speaker 6: Change but, listen plain.
• 52:23
  Speaker 8: And, simple no matter how much money some of these
• 52:27
  Speaker 8: kids are going to be, making there's still an innocence
• 52:30
  Speaker 8: to college, football and that's WHY i still love. It
• 52:32
  Speaker 8: that's WHY i love showing up on campuses.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: To speak to these young.
• 52:37
  Speaker 8: MEN i love showing up on campuses to call these
• 52:40
  Speaker 8: games because once that season, kicks it doesn't matter about the.
• 52:43
  Speaker 8: Money in a lot of, ways it's about the innocence
• 52:45
  Speaker 8: of college football that still, exists the, pageantry the, environment
• 52:51
  Speaker 8: and that's what makes it so much fun to be
• 52:53
  Speaker 8: a part.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Of last thing BEFORE i let you. Go how much
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: does broadcasting and you, know evaluating games from that, standpoint
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: how much does it scratch the football itch In Ryan?
• 53:05
  Speaker 8: Late it does it completely, There there's no you, know
• 53:11
  Speaker 8: relative itch down the line that needs to be scratched
• 53:14
  Speaker 8: further that it does exactly what it's supposed. To it
• 53:16
  Speaker 8: keeps me well, informed it keeps me. Involved you. Know
• 53:21
  Speaker 8: LIKE i, SAID i turned fifty this year AND i
• 53:22
  Speaker 8: feel like you, Know i'm JUST i was just At.
• 53:25
  Speaker 8: Boising we were talking about it and also started bringing
• 53:27
  Speaker 8: up people started bringing up the last Time boise got
• 53:30
  Speaker 8: shut out was nineteen ninety. Seven and when we beat
• 53:32
  Speaker 8: them fifty eight to. Nothing you, know it's like it's
• 53:35
  Speaker 8: you just get pulled back into the college atmosphere of
• 53:40
  Speaker 8: how much you loved. It and THEN i get to
• 53:42
  Speaker 8: prepare each and every week the same WAY i did
• 53:44
  Speaker 8: as a. Player you, know you get the, film you
• 53:46
  Speaker 8: break it, Down you're looking at the opposing teams, players
• 53:49
  Speaker 8: you meet with, Coaches you show up to the, venue
• 53:52
  Speaker 8: you meet with the coaches on the game. Pregame you
• 53:54
  Speaker 8: feel the, environment you, know the, music the the locker.
• 53:58
  Speaker 6: Rooms the the, stadiums the.
• 54:01
  Speaker 7: Lights.
• 54:02
  Speaker 8: Uh and then you step in front of the microphone
• 54:04
  Speaker 8: and you just do what you've always been able to,
• 54:06
  Speaker 8: do and that's talk about. Football you don't overcompliment complicate. It.
• 54:11
  Speaker 8: Uh you were harken back to the days where you
• 54:13
  Speaker 8: were sitting on the couch with your dad watching football growing.
• 54:16
  Speaker 8: Up that's HOW i call football. Games and and it
• 54:21
  Speaker 8: turns Out i'm pretty darn good at, it and So
• 54:23
  Speaker 8: i'm really. Excited uh when the season Comes i'm or,
• 54:26
  Speaker 8: about you, know ten days away from getting kicked off,
• 54:30
  Speaker 8: here and, uh you, KNOW i couldn't be more grateful
• 54:34
  Speaker 8: THAT i get to continue to do this in my.
• 54:38
  Speaker 8: Life and SO i And i'm going to be able
• 54:41
  Speaker 8: to bring my son to a game this. YEAR i
• 54:43
  Speaker 8: think he's old enough where he is understanding. It, uh
• 54:45
  Speaker 8: he can be quiet in the, lot in the in
• 54:47
  Speaker 8: the broadcast booth and h and enjoy and see what
• 54:51
  Speaker 8: dad gets to do for a. Living So i'm excited
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  Speaker 8: for that.
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  Speaker 2: Too.
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  Speaker 1: Well, uh it's always great to see all of your.
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  Speaker 1: Success miss getting to talk to you more. Often so
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  Speaker 1: let's stay in better. Touch and thanks so much for
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: joining me on the show.
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  Speaker 2: Today oh you, bet.
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  Speaker 8: Buddy it's so good to hear from you saying to
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  Speaker 8: you congratulations on the family and tell your wife, hello and,
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  Speaker 8: yeah we'll do it again.
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  Speaker 2: Too all. Right That's Ryan.
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  Speaker 1: Lee you will see and hear him ON Usa sports
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  Speaker 1: coverage of the NEW pac twelve, conference where of, Course
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  Speaker 1: Ron Colemennen hall and The Utah State aggies will be
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: competing this.
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  Speaker 2: Year Boise state looks, good looks really.
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  Speaker 1: Good i'm intrigued by The Texas state team that he
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  Speaker 1: mentioned the only one outside of The pacific Or mountain.
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  Speaker 1: Footprint that's a squad that's kind of on the come,
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  Speaker 1: up a campus that's on the come up right. Now
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  Speaker 1: so going to be an interesting year for the brand
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  Speaker 1: New pac twelve.
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  Speaker 2: Conference only eight.
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  Speaker 1: Teams so a small a small conference by modern. Standards
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  Speaker 1: but that's the way it used to, be. Guys you
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  Speaker 1: had eight teams and conferences all the. Time remember when
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: The pac twelve was The pack. Eight remember when The
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  Speaker 1: big twelve was The Big. Eight, anyway we'll double up breaks,
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: Here we're gonna come. BACK Cbs sports did a really
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  Speaker 1: interesting examination on how much it costs to try to
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: be elite in college football right. Now Kyle whittingham, Mentioned,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: hey we're gonna Be we're gonna be talking about forty
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: and fifty million dollar rosters in the near. Future, well
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: guess what the future is. Now it's A sean O'Connell
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  Speaker 9: GLAD I Got sunshine in a back.
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  Speaker 1: Com music all, right shout out To taylor The, future
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: who texted in a good article about THE tcu safety
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: dismissal THAT i started the show talking About Jacob. Fields
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  Speaker 1: and remember one of the main POINTS i made was
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: that something like this would not happen happen at The
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: university Of utah because the coaching staff is too dialed,
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: in because the intervention would take place before it escalated
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: to the level Of Jacob fields committed aggravated assault in
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: the in the locker, room which, okay it's a, fight,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: RIGHT i, mean the official charge for physically attacking someone
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: for fighting WOULD i guess be aggravated. Assault this, article
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: which is it's on Bro, bible So i'm not the
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: Fort Worth Star telegram is cited, here So i'm gonna
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: go with. That the Fort Worth Star telegram shows, that
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: Allegedly Jacob, fields remember he's the guy who's dismissed from the,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: team he reached out multiple. Times according to the, article
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: he reached out multiple times to the coaching, staff but
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: there were no attempts to de escalate the brewing, tension
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: which ultimately led to the confrontation in the locker.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: Room, now.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: This same source also Said Sonny dykes himself did not
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: realize how bad it had, gotten so that would fall
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: on assistant, coaches graduate, assistants people that are a little
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: bit further down the ladder when it comes to authority
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  Speaker 1: in the locker.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: Room but.
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  Speaker 1: It proves the POINT i was trying to make that your,
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  Speaker 1: culture your, leadership your coaching staff is so massively important
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  Speaker 1: for situations like, this because now they lose a projected
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: starting safety when you could have had a little meeting
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  Speaker 1: between two, players when you could have had both guys
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: brought Into Sunny dykes's office and he probably, says, hey
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: IF i hear you talking to each other one more,
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  Speaker 1: time both of you are going to be running conditioning
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  Speaker 1: till the end of the. Year whatever it, is, Right
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  Speaker 1: and it really is a bummer if the player was
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: asking for help from a coaching staff and didn't get
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: that help from a coaching.
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  Speaker 2: Staff, NOW i don't know what that looks.
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  Speaker 1: LIKE i don't know what a player, saying, hey can
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: you deescalate this is OR i don't know if it's a,
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: player just be, like get him out of my, face,
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: right because that's just kind of part of the. Parlance
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  Speaker 1: get him away from me Or i'm going to beat
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  Speaker 1: him up, whatever and a coach might not take that overly,
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: seriously but according to the, article he reached out multiple
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: times with the coaching. Staff and what that, means by the,
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: way is THAT tcu is going to have some billable.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Hours this player who came From Louisiana tech after being
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  Speaker 1: a defensive player the ar in that conference is going
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: to be suing somebody to make sure that he gets
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: his nil. Money so have fun with, THAT. Tcu thanks
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: for the update From taylor on the text line eight
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  Speaker 1: zero two.
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  Speaker 2: Three good, Job. Taylor appreciate you all.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: Right the cost of doing business in college football is
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: getting worse and worse and. Worse The Protect College Sports
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: act wants to create an, actual real salary, cap but
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: in doing so they would also elevate the salary cap
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: well beyond what it's at right. Now the revenue share
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: number is around twenty one million dollars this. Year the
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: proposed changes in The Protect College Sports act would elevate
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: that to forty seven or forty eight million dollars that
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: can be distributed to player. Personnel AND Cbs sports did
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: a did an article an examination of who the biggest
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: spenders in college football are not next, year not, tomorrow,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: today right now in college, football based on WHAT i
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: know About utah football's revenue share number and the nil
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: number on top of, that my best guess is that
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: this Year's utah football, roster my best educated guess is
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  Speaker 1: that this Year's utah football roster is costing anywhere from
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: twenty to twenty four million dollars eight seven seven three
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  Speaker 1: five three zero seven. Hundred if you think you've got
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: a better number than, that And i'm not saying that
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: in a confrontational, way if you're hearing from anyone anywhere
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: that it's more than, THAT i would love to know
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: eight seven seven three five three zero seven hundred between
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: revenue share and the true nil. Stuff on top of,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: THAT i think that we're talking about a twenty to
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: twenty four million dollar roster at The university Of, utah
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: AND i think that a lot of teams In big
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: twelve are very close to that. Number, remember the revenue
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: share for that is allowed currently in college sports is
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: for all. Sports it's not just for the football. Team,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: Right so that twenty one and a half or twenty
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: point five million dollars that has to cover, basketball, football
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: women's basketball gymnastics at The university Of. Utah and my
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: understanding of the way that that distribution is happening is
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: that football is getting the vast majority of, it but
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: then there IS cemnil contribution from the usual suspects for
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: lack of a better, term that is pushing them up
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: over twenty million.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: Dollars so what does it actually look like, though.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: Around the landscape of college football according TO Cbs. Sports
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: and here's the tough thing that every one of these articles,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: says according to, sources we don't know who the sources. Are,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: now you're not going to print, something you're not going
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: to put your name on it if you don't really
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: believe these.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: Sources BUT.
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  Speaker 1: I know the sources THAT i trust THAT i talked
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: to the things THAT i talk to ABOUT u tough football.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: STUFF i also know sources Around utah football stuff that
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: when they tell me, Something i'm kind of, like, ah all,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Right i'll take that with a grain of. Salt not
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: BECAUSE i don't like, them but because they're not big jay.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: Journalists they're not people verifying, Right they're passing on what
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: they heard to.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: Me SO i only go with the people THAT i feel.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: Like are really well, informed AND i think that's WHAT
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: Cbs sports is doing. Here but, regardless the article says
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: there were seven teams this year with forty plus million
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: dollar rosters and five other that fell just outside of that.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: Realm six of those rosters allegedly in THE Sec, CONFERENCE Lsu, Texas,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: TEXAS a and M, Georgia, Ole, miss And. Tennessee forty
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: plus million dollar rosters in college, football if my guestimate
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: is even remotely, accurate we're talking about trying to compete
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: with on the national level teams that have nearly double
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: your budget for player. Personnel if you want to know
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: what this looks like in pro, sports go to. Baseball
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: you can find the payroll for The. Mets you can
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: find the payroll for The. Dodgers you can find the
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: payroll for The Oakland athletics and The Minnesota. Twins the
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: results are typically reflective of those, disparities, Right forty million
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: dollar plus rosters AT, Lsu, Texas, texas AND M, Georgia, Ole, Miss.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: Tennessee four also from The big Ten Ohio, State, Oregon,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: michigan AND USC Acc Only miami is spending at this,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: level according TO cbs And Notre dame is right there
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: with the very very.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: Top, now.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: Not all of those THAT i just, mentioned because the
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: math six plus four plus one plus, one that's. Eleven
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: so there are a few teams that fell right outside
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: of the excuse, me that's, twelve that fell right outside
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: of that forty million dollar. Threshold and the ones that
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: did spend in that elite range are EXACTLY i, MEAN
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: i just read for you the teams that you would
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: have made the list. Yourself interestingly, ENOUGH Cbs, sports this
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: is the article spoke to fifty sources reporting on roster,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: costs and there are a few surprising exclusions of the
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: forty million dollar. Number defending national Champions indiana did not
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: make the.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: List of the most expensive.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: Rosters neither Did Texas, tech which has become the poster
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: child for nil. Spending neither Did, alabama which is of
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: course coming off of dynasty. Years according to, sources Over
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: Nick saban's last three years In, Tuscaloosa alabama spent less
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: than ANY sec program will spend on a single roster
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. Six so this is only a few
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: years ago That Nick saban walked. Away alabama spent less
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: over his final three, years about twenty million dollars than
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: ANY sec program is spending this. Year, arkansas who rolls
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: in to Rice Eco stadium In week, two is going
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: to be spending more Than alabama did And saban's final three. Years,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: however now they're at that thirty plus million dollar range
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: according to the. Article texas text roster is in the
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: low thirty million dollar range for twenty twenty six according to.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: Sources and that is the question there is how much
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: of that was gobbled up By Brendan soresby's five plus
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: million dollar. Salary so if you're spending thirty plus and
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: five of that is dead, money you're still talking about a, big,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: big big. Number indiana is mentioned in the article as
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: being around thirty million, dollars but that that forty million
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: dollar number that Coaches Kyle whittingham have been telling, You,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: hey we're gonna be talking forty to fifty million dollars
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: before too, long before too long is right. Now interestingly,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: enough this article does not Mention, Indiana it does not
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: Mention Penn, State it does not mention teams Like Michigan. State,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: right The big ten has tiers within. Itself you, Know
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: Ohio state's going to be at the top. Nationally you,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: Know oregon's going to be at the very top, Nationally
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: michigan at the top, nationally and the question, becomes all,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: Right Kyle, whittingham all of us had this in the
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: back of our minds at some point during his tenure
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: with The university Of, Utah what would this guy look
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: like at a blue blood university with the best, facilities
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: with the best assistant, coaches with the best weight, room
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: with the best. Whatever and then that conversation shift when
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: nil became. Allowable what would it look? Like what would
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: he do if he had the resources At Ohio state Or?
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: Michigan and now he's literally At michigan and there's been
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: no interruption in their spending despite the. Scandal there's been
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: no pause, on, hey maybe we shouldn't put all this
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: money into something that has become kind of a pr
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: nightmare for the university because of, this they're paying big
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: money for big time players forty million dollars or just
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: outside that forty million dollar range roster right. Now For
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: Kyle whittingham, today right, now does it translate as directly
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: as he told us for years it would two years,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: ago sat up there and, said, hey you watch the
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: top twenty five in college. Football from here on out
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: is going to be the top twenty five spenders in college.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: Football and we're not far off that there are some.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: Outliers there are some people that break in without having
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: the insane, resources like the Two, lanes The James madisons
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: of the. World, right that's because of experienced, players that's
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: because of great. Coaching that will always be the, case
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: but it's not going to be the.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: Norm for the top twenty.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: Five you're gonna get two or three of the top twenty,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: five not twenty of the top twenty. Five the other
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: twenty are going to be the big. Spenders and the
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: big spenders are exactly who you think they. Are and
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: for The university Of, utah you're probably never going to
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: be the forty million dollar. Spender FOR, byu they've made
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: it pretty clear that they have no interest in being
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: the forty million dollar, spenders at least. Publicly they've talked
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: about we don't want that to be our, reputation we
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: don't want that to be our. Legacy can you win
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: at a discount and WHEN i say, win you know
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: WHAT i?
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: Mean can you win on a meaningful?
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: LEVEL i think you could Be Texas tech every other,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: year even If Texas tech is spending forty million. DOLLARS
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: i don't know if you could go into A big
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: ten conference where a lot of people Think utah ends
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: up and, say, yeah we'll spend twenty five or thirty a,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: year and you spend forty and we'll still be in
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: the conference championship. HUNT i think it's why teams Like,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: wisconsin who for a long time was right, There Michigan, state,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: right it Was, Iowa Michigan, State wisconsin that would kind
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: of rotate into the conversation year over, Year Ohio, State,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: Michigan Penn state kind of always, there, right and then
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: one of those other three or four schools would put
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: themselves in the. Conversation when it was, divisions it was
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: Like iowa every. Year now that's not, divisions it's, Like,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: Okay iowa was going to rotate in every year because
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: of what, experience great, coaching big old corn fed far
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: boy offensive, lineman that kind of. Thing and it's not
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: like they're operating at a budget, discount, Right they're still
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: spending good, money like The university Of utah is can
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: any coach in college football make up a fifteen million
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: dollar or even a ten million dollars spending. GAP i
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: Think Kurt signetty probably did last. Year can he do
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: it moving? Forward will he have to do it moving
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: forward or now that the results already spoke for? Him
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: Is Mark cuban and the rest of That indiana booster
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: base is gonna be, like, yeah, dude you don't have
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: to play at a discount. Anymore if this year is
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: not a championship year FOR byu and they're spending let's
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: say twenty five to thirty million dollars on their, roster.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: Is that booster.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: Base is that university's power structure willing to reach even
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: deeper into the pocketbook and, say all, right well this
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: is what's gonna. Take then if twenty five thirty million wasn't,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: enough let's try thirty. Five, Meanwhile Texas tech next year
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: is going to be, like, yeah we're at forty five this?
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: Year what is the level of diminishing returns on? This, also.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: WHERE i Mean TEXAS a AND m is very conspicuously
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: in these conversations every single. Year when is the last
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: time you were actually impressed with the results For TEXAS
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: a AND. M i, mean we go back to pre
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: nil and it was, like, okay who's got the number
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: one recruiting class in the. Country that was before it was.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: Allowable but they were dropping their bags of cash. Off
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: they were the friends of the, program giving people the extra.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: Incentives Jimbo fisher was getting paid more money than he
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: was ever. Worth and when is the last Time TEXAS
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: a AND m truly impressed? You Ole miss fun story
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: made a nice run in the college Football playoff last.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: Year Ole miss is spending more than forty million dollars
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: on their roster right? Now is that going to be
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: something where you say money well Spent? Tennessee are we
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: believers That tennessee is a national championship? Contender are they
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: a conference championship? Contender are they a bona fide college football?
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: Playoff actually makes some noise type team because if you
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: spend forty million dollars on a roster AT usc and
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: you're not in the college Football playoff, again do you
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: know what that means For Lincoln? Riley do you know
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: what that means for recruitment in Southern? California do you
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: know what that means for the blue blood status OF usc?
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: Football if you can't buy your way LIKE i, mean
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: there's there's all of these. Questions and by the, way
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: do you know what that means if YOU'RE byu AND
• 1:15:15
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  Speaker 1: Guy who got a potentially full time million dollar one
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  Speaker 2: People, zach did you know about? This not at? All, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: now what a wild way to.
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  Speaker 2: Cards And i'll look at that.
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  Speaker 1: WHATEVER i did not know this was a. Thing there's
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  Speaker 1: a company Called Roady Breakers, okay.
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  Speaker 2: It's In Rhode. Island and their whole thing is they
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  Speaker 2: do these.
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  Speaker 1: Packs they open these packs and you can go on
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  Speaker 2: Whatever you can buy the rights to.
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  Speaker 1: Certain players or certain teams out of these boxes that
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  Speaker 1: they're they're. Opening So i'm on the. WEBSITE i just
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  Speaker 1: learned about this this. Morning i'm on the website right.
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  Speaker 1: Now they've got a twenty twenty FIVE Ops Resurgence football four,
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  Speaker 1: box hobby, whatever hobby. Packs they've got some good. Stuff
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  Speaker 1: they've got, autograph holograph cards in. Here there's some, big big.
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  Speaker 1: Ones this break consists of four hobby boxes of twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty Five Tops Resurgence. Football the break runs with a
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  Speaker 2: Break all cards.
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  Speaker 1: Box there's usually in a hobby box one autograph card
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  Speaker 1: IS i Think i'm looking at an example. Here there's
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  Speaker 1: like a gronk rookie, card A Barry sanders autograph. Card
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  Speaker 1: SO i think you're supposed to expect one of those
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  Speaker 1: in each. Box, okay this is football, basketball like The
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  Speaker 1: cooper flag one came out of AND i can go right.
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  Speaker 2: BOX i don't get to open. THEM i don't get
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  Speaker 1: PACKS i can watch them on a stream while they
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: open the. PACKS i can spend twenty five dollars to
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: get all The Baltimore ravens out of. HERE i can
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  Speaker 1: get seventy five dollars give them seventy five for either
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  Speaker 1: The broncos or The Cincinnati, bengals forty nine for The,
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  Speaker 1: lions twenty nine for The, texans nineteen, dollars AND i
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: can get Every Miami dolphin in this box twenty nine
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  Speaker 1: dollars only for The Seattle seahawks in. Here IF i
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: want The Tennessee, titans it's one hundred and fifty nine.
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  Speaker 2: Bucks why for The, TITANS.
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  Speaker 1: I guess because maybe there's, like maybe they think Cam
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: ward is a, cooler, better awesomer, PLAYER i don't.
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  Speaker 3: KNOW i, mean it could be a rookie debut, patcher you,
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 3: know BECAUSE i know they cut out the jersey sometimes
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: for the debut, Stuff so it could be that the.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: Signatured but, honestly it's like it's just not. Satisfying you
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: don't get the rec rip that pack.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: YOURSELF i, mean AM i going to get A Carnel
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: tait autographed jersey card and feel like that was worth
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: my one hundred and sixty nine dollars. Investment so this
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: this guy in The cooper flag, case the card was
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  Speaker 1: pulled by This Rhode island company Called Roady. Breakers, okay
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: the collector is From North. Carolina he paid for the
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: rights to The Dallas mavericks out of the. Box he
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: paid five hundred and fifteen dollars for This Cooper, flag
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  Speaker 1: one of one autograph rookie, card so he effectively paid
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: five hundred and fifteen dollars in a.
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  Speaker 2: Lottery his name Is Jason.
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  Speaker 1: Williams and this guy is going to get whatever the auction,
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  Speaker 1: price less the you, know finders and handler's fees. Here
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: so his five hundred and fifteen dollars on a pack
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  Speaker 1: of cards that he never got to touch himself translates
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: to a million plus probably two million for. Him is
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: this kind of card, Collecting, zach something you could get yourself.
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  Speaker 3: INTO i, mean IF i was, rich, Maybe but at
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: the same, Time i'd be much rather ripping the pack
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  Speaker 3: and pulling it with more excitement than watching it on
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: a stream where you're with friends and you're ripping packs
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: all together and you guys can celebrate, together, like that's just.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: More that's just more.
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  Speaker 1: ME i am not trusting enough either to Where i'm, Like,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: OKAY i paid your one hundred and fifty bucks whatever
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: for my favorite. Team if you get this crazy cool
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: card out of that, PACK i trust that it's actually
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: gonna come to, me or THAT i actually do have
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: The i'd be, like because If I'm Roadie breakers AND
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: i now pulled this million dollar, card AM i really
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: gonna be, Like, okay it's?
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: Yours?
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, NO i, MEAN i guess you have, to but,
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: wow what a strange way to collect.
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  Speaker 2: CARDS i didn't know it was the. THING i learned
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: that today also at The Daily.
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  Speaker 1: Dump this is incredible And alabama high school football coach
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  Speaker 1: had to resign after being arrested for public intoxication while
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: he was impersonating a reporter so he could be on
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  Speaker 1: the sideline to investigate to scout His week one. Opponent
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: this is just. Fantastic it's From Guntersville High. School this
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: coach resigned from his position because he was he was
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  Speaker 1: Watching there's a place Called Arab High. School who knew
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  Speaker 1: there was a place Called Arab High school In? Alabama
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  Speaker 1: by the, way he pretended he identified himself as a
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  Speaker 1: member of the media to get access to the sideline
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  Speaker 1: during The Arab High school jamboree football, game which is
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  Speaker 1: is a level of hilarious dedication THAT i don't think
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  Speaker 1: Am welcome to hour number three Of The shan O'Connell.
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  Speaker 2: Show your kids are back in school this.
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  Speaker 1: Week we are just over two weeks away From utah
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  Speaker 1: football kicking off At rice Ecl stadium on The thursday,
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  Speaker 1: nights and the head coach of Your Utah utes is
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  Speaker 1: here On The shan O'Connell show, Now Morgan.
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  Speaker 2: Scaly welcome to the. Program how are, you?
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  Speaker 7: Sir what's up? Brother good practice, today just got off the,
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  Speaker 7: field guys are, eating getting ready for. Meetings but a
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  Speaker 7: ton of.
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  Speaker 1: Progress what does progress look like from a practice to practice?
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  Speaker 2: Standpoint at this juncture of camp where there are.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of bumps and bruises and the enthusiasm of
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  Speaker 1: the season being back has started to maybe shake a
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  Speaker 1: little because you're sore and all that kind of. Stuff
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  Speaker 1: what are you looking for when it comes to that, Progress, Morgan,
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  Speaker 1: well a lot of.
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  Speaker 7: IT i, mean you're not installing at this. Point it's
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  Speaker 7: all operational. Cleanliness you, know you just want to be,
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  Speaker 7: disciplined lining up, fast offense dictates the. Tempo defense is
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  Speaker 7: flying to the, football and you, know just teaching everything
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  Speaker 7: you can about situational, football situational. Awareness we can't get
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  Speaker 7: enough of, that you, know particularly with as many new
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  Speaker 7: guys as you. Have but right now it's just about
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  Speaker 7: cleaning things. Up BUT i, like honestly like where we're
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  Speaker 7: at right.
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  Speaker 1: Now are your position battles where you have them as
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  Speaker 1: close to resolution as you'd like them to be at this.
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  Speaker 7: Point we're getting. There, yeah we're getting. There we've had
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  Speaker 7: some bumps and bruises along the way at certain positions
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  Speaker 7: and that can cause some you, know some delay and finding,
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  Speaker 7: out you, know whether guys can do it or. Not
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  Speaker 7: we still are going to continue to practice Physical the
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  Speaker 7: live tackling stuff is intermittent in the practices that we.
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  Speaker 7: Have you're never going to see a large dose. Scrimmage
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  Speaker 7: but you, know we got to find out who can,
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  Speaker 7: tackle who can break. Tackles and BUT i you, KNOW
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  Speaker 7: i would say we're probably eighty five percent there when
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  Speaker 7: it comes, to you, know deciding who the starters.
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  Speaker 1: Are can we HAVE i know you've been asked about
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  Speaker 1: the offensive line a. Lot i'm so intrigued by the safety.
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  Speaker 1: ROOM i know it's a position group that's near and
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  Speaker 1: dear to your, heart having played it and coached it
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  Speaker 1: for so, long and you've got talent. THERE i think
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  Speaker 1: there's at least four guys THAT i could see as
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  Speaker 1: kind of every down.
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  Speaker 2: Starters how is that shaping?
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  Speaker 7: Up well's good because it's a good problem to.
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  Speaker 2: Have you.
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  Speaker 7: Got the beauty of that position room is you've got
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  Speaker 7: guys that could play the nickel, position and so teams
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  Speaker 7: that try and create issues with more athletic tight, ends
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  Speaker 7: you're fine because you've got you, know that's the safety
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  Speaker 7: is normally. Covered but once you get into eleven personnel
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  Speaker 7: and ten personnel and maybe you're asking a safety to
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  Speaker 7: cover a slot. Receiver you, KNOW i feel really confident
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  Speaker 7: In Jackson benny being able to do. That Rabbit Evans,
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  Speaker 7: Tillman Nate tillman's come a long way as, Well so
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  Speaker 7: you're able to play in those three safety packages as
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  Speaker 7: much like we. Did it would have been With Sioni
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  Speaker 7: vaki and. R. J hubert And Cole. Bishop so you,
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  Speaker 7: know that's where we need to. Go that's where we
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  Speaker 7: need to. Go plus it allows us to blitz and
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  Speaker 7: do some things with those. Guys SO i really pleased
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  Speaker 7: with the safety. Room you talk About Nate ritchie and
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  Speaker 7: his experience in this and the snaps he's given us as,
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  Speaker 7: well and it's a really good.
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  Speaker 1: Group have there been any surprises any guys that weren't
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  Speaker 1: on your? Radar necessarily is going to be, needed you,
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  Speaker 1: know reps and we got to get this guy some
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  Speaker 1: snaps that have emerged in fall camp.
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  Speaker 10: Not.
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  Speaker 7: NECESSARY i mean it's been it's been good to Get
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  Speaker 7: Monta carvolio back at this a lot receiver position just
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  Speaker 7: because he didn't participate in spring because of his. Injury
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  Speaker 7: and you, know he's one of those when you talk
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  Speaker 7: about set, operation that's you know a lot of that
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  Speaker 7: is how how well you run your routes and a
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  Speaker 7: very good route, runner very, quick good hands to buy
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  Speaker 7: Some merriweather's a guy last year that you know didn't
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  Speaker 7: get a lot of, production but it's shown very some
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  Speaker 7: very good things In fall camp and you, know you Got,
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  Speaker 7: zip we got a good amount of wide. Receivers it's
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  Speaker 7: really good to have that depth, there depth at, linebacker
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  Speaker 7: depth at the, end tight end is it is a
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  Speaker 7: is a spot where we're still working some things. Out
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  Speaker 7: BUT i Love benny and And Will. Money you got
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  Speaker 7: your rhinos that that provide some versatility and and you,
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  Speaker 7: know allowing you to get a little bit, physical but
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  Speaker 7: also their athletic and athlete can cast some. ISSUES i
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  Speaker 7: would Say Matiaki halo's probably the the biggest surprise at,
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  Speaker 7: camp not that we didn't think that he could do
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  Speaker 7: it in the running back, position just He he's shown
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  Speaker 7: so much in the ability to catch the, ball run
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  Speaker 7: with physicality and pretty good vision. Too SO i you,
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  Speaker 7: know Maybe haylo's the answer for that.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting morgan Scaley utah head football coach is our guest
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  Speaker 1: here on The sean O'Connell. Show just off the practice
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  Speaker 1: field and obviously in the heat of camp right, now
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  Speaker 1: how has the culture of this particular roster in your
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  Speaker 1: first year as a head coach kind of shaped up through?
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  Speaker 1: Camp it feels like, that you, know you had spring
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  Speaker 1: ball obviously an off season, program and now as you
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  Speaker 1: get closer to installed next week and things like. That
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  Speaker 1: are you finding that the leaders you expected to be
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  Speaker 1: leaders are? There is there somebody maybe that maybe wasn't
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  Speaker 1: penciled in that way that is more of a vocal.
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  Speaker 1: Person the overall kind of like vibe and culture of
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  Speaker 1: this this particular version Of utah, football what does it look?
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  Speaker 7: Like, Well I'm i'm pleased with What i've seen in
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  Speaker 7: terms of the progress of the. Offense you, know the
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  Speaker 7: defense has kind of known this culture for a, while
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  Speaker 7: but to see the buy in from the offense and you,
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  Speaker 7: Know Wayshaun parker's won that that wasn't much in terms,
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  Speaker 7: of you, know being a vocal guy last year was a,
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  Speaker 7: newcomer but, man as he stepped up and practices the right.
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  Speaker 7: Way you, know he's willing to call people, out but
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  Speaker 7: he's also willing to do that because everyone knows he's
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  Speaker 7: taking care of his. Business so love What i've seen
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  Speaker 7: out of. Him and it's just you, know the offense
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  Speaker 7: buying into team football and the fact that one guy
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  Speaker 7: gets the, ball, boys and you, know what are you
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  Speaker 7: going to? Do it's like basketball a percent the. Game
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  Speaker 7: you know you're not gonna have the, ball so so
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  Speaker 7: be great at that eighty, percent whether it's setting, picks
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  Speaker 7: whether it's you, know going to work the, boards whatever it.
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  Speaker 7: Is you, know on the offense's you can kind of
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  Speaker 7: tell if a wide receivers a me, guy if you,
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  Speaker 7: know when the ball is, thrown he just turn turns and, watches,
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  Speaker 7: like don't watch, football play. Football if you want to watch,
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  Speaker 7: football come stand by me on the. Sideline play, Football go,
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  Speaker 7: block get out in front of, People go do the team,
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  Speaker 7: thing celebrate. Together so that's what's been fun is to
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  Speaker 7: see that showing up more and more every.
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  Speaker 1: Day how do those conversations go when it's just you
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  Speaker 1: and especially your offensive. Coaches you just said, it there's
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  Speaker 1: only one football and when we look at this roster
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  Speaker 1: and what we know about, it it's, like, MAN i
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  Speaker 1: think there's a bunch of weapons, here and you probably
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  Speaker 1: want to get the ball into everyone's hands at some
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  Speaker 1: point during these. Games that's not the most realistic game,
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  Speaker 1: PLAN i imagine. Sometimes so how do those conversations go
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  Speaker 1: With kevin mcgiven and these position coaches as can't progresses, like,
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  Speaker 1: hey you, know before we decide whether or not we're
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  Speaker 1: going to give it to him Against, Idaho let's see
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  Speaker 1: what he can do tomorrow in?
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  Speaker 2: Practice how does that?
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  Speaker 6: Go?
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  Speaker 7: Well you're looking for you, know discipline and, consistency you,
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  Speaker 7: know are they consistent practice after practice after? Practice anyone
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  Speaker 7: can have a good, practice you, know and you put
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  Speaker 7: us put much stress and pressure on him as possible
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  Speaker 7: just to find out who those guys. Are who's gonna
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  Speaker 7: catch it? In you, know in a in a pressure,
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  Speaker 7: Situation who's going to do what you? Ask who's gonna
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  Speaker 7: you know when you're when when it's on to who's
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  Speaker 7: going to jump?
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  Speaker 2: It?
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  Speaker 7: Can can you hold your? Water? SO i, Mean kevin
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  Speaker 7: Is staff's. Awesome so much of culture is about everyone
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  Speaker 7: being on the same, page being unified in your message
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  Speaker 7: and holding people accountable to. It so very pleased with
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  Speaker 7: with that. GROUP a bunch of good, teachers AND i
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  Speaker 7: guess that we've got some good.
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  Speaker 1: Players how are you different during this? Camp you're first
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: as the headman versus is you, know the defensive, coordinator
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  Speaker 1: the position Coach Morgan scalley during a fall, Camp.
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  Speaker 7: Well you just don't hear me a, lot you, know
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  Speaker 7: if you you were at practice last, Year scalley's Always
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  Speaker 7: scalley's always yelling at something If i'm.
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  Speaker 1: Not hearing scally a, practice it feels like it's not
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  Speaker 1: A utah.
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  Speaker 2: Practice, yeah something's.
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  Speaker 7: Up, yeah so, no it's it's much, more you, know
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  Speaker 7: is practice going the. Way it's how we're doing. Things
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  Speaker 7: are we running to the ball or were running from
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  Speaker 7: drill to drill or we're being efficient with our? Time,
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  Speaker 7: uh practicing the right? Way, yeah it's it's a different
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  Speaker 7: role for. Me i'm still you, know very anal about
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  Speaker 7: the details and and about you, know us behaving the
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  Speaker 7: way we've asked these kids to, behave you, know living our.
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  Speaker 7: Culture but you just don't you, know you don't hear.
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  Speaker 7: Me i'm not screaming as. Much probably, better probably better
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  Speaker 7: for my voicebox.
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  Speaker 2: Who has taken that on.
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  Speaker 1: That there's got to be somebody out there who IF
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  Speaker 1: i were able to you practice What i'm on, air
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  Speaker 1: it was.
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  Speaker 7: Me it's me And, Shaw, right those are the two
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  Speaker 7: that you're usually always hearing going. Crazy BUT i tell you,
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  Speaker 7: What mark, yetwaya he's he's he's picked up the.
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  Speaker 2: Torch, OKAY i like.
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  Speaker 7: That that's. Him him And, SHAW i would, say would
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  Speaker 7: be the two that you're always.
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  Speaker 2: Hearing, okay we're.
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  Speaker 1: Efforting i'm trying to get your strength and conditioning Coach
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  Speaker 1: Steve saunders on the show as soon as, possible because
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  Speaker 1: everybody that we have talked to, players uh you, know
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  Speaker 1: other reporters that are coming on to share their thoughts
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: of what they see at. Practice there is a constant
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  Speaker 1: attention being paid to body, composition especially with your big,
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  Speaker 1: guys your offensive and defensive. Lineman and everyone's making comments
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  Speaker 1: about your own physique, too which is. HILARIOUS i, mean
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  Speaker 1: you're you're shredded right. NOW i don't know how you
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  Speaker 1: pulled that. OFF i need to get on The Morgan scalley.
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  Speaker 1: PROGRAM i don't know what pep tides you're.
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  Speaker 7: On i'm Not i'm not. Sure a lot of a
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  Speaker 7: lot of cookie butter chip ice cream from From, blacksmith
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  Speaker 7: just so you, KNOW i.
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  Speaker 1: Don't know if that works out that way for the
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  Speaker 1: rest of. Us but at all, seriousness, right, uh the
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  Speaker 1: strength and conditioning foundation that has been so important To
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: utah football for so. Long it's a big change with
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: somebody new in a different, voice and it was a
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: big story over the off, season and the players are
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  Speaker 1: speaking very positively about it from an injury standpoint and
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: from just a performance, standpoint are the results what you
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  Speaker 1: expected them to be when you made the?
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  Speaker 7: Change? Uh one hundred Per. YEAH i knew WHAT i
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  Speaker 7: wanted going, in and you, know there's always difficult decisions
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  Speaker 7: that you have to make and and BUT i knew
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  Speaker 7: That steve spoke my language when it came to you,
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  Speaker 7: know my vision and is the strength conditioning and how
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 7: we train and everything being positioned specific and making us
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 7: better football players in the weight, room not necessarily better.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 7: Weightlifters everything we do has to have a, purpose has
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 7: to have an answer to the. Why and if the
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 7: why if that answer is well that's just the way
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  Speaker 7: we've always done, it, well, nope that's. Wrong you know
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  Speaker 7: that we've got to be on the cutting. Edge we've
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 7: got to be are we doing the best thing for these?
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 7: Kids So steve came, in and you, Know i'm a
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  Speaker 7: believer Because i've been doing. It you, KNOW i wanted
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  Speaker 7: to make sure THAT i got in the weight. Room
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 7: and you, know Obviously weddel's endorsement was, huge but just
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  Speaker 7: the fact that we had OTHER nfl guys With emoke
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  Speaker 7: And luther And jordan and all these guys were, like,
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 7: yeah this is you, know he's speaking our, language this
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  Speaker 7: is what we. Need and you, know the results speak
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  Speaker 7: for themselves in terms of the body, composition in terms
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 7: of our guys feeling strong or feeling, healthier and you know.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 7: It but it's also the buy in from the, players you,
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 7: know attacking the weight, room you, know not just as
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 7: a checklist. Item, okay this is WHAT i do as
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 7: a football, Player but how is the weight room translating
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 7: to me being a better football? Player and if you
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 7: can see that and see how this, lift this specific,
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 7: lift or this specific technique is making me a better football,
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 7: player well then you get more buy.
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  Speaker 1: In how Is devin Dan pierre different in his second
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: camp as the projected starter versus last.
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  Speaker 7: Year, WELL i think he's he's a much more aware
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  Speaker 7: of eyes are on, him much more aware of how
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 7: he behaves, matters you, know in terms of you, know
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 7: if we're asking everyone's held to the. Standard it's not just,
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 7: okay you're the starting quarterback and you're the highest paid
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 7: guy we got like you get to do, It you
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 7: get and want to Do, no you live the, culture
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 7: just like we're asking everyone else to live the. Culture
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 7: and if you don't see it that, way then you
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 7: don't understand leadership and you know how culture's. Created so
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 7: that's What i'm proud Of devin is that he's bought into.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 7: That you look at the things that he does off
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 7: the field with our, players inviting players to come out
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 7: to his, place the team building, stuff like he's very
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 7: aware of his role on this team and that all
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 7: eyes are on.
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  Speaker 1: Him this is going to be my last question BECAUSE
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: i can be guilty of taking up too much of your.
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: TIME i think it's.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: IMPORTANT i don't know if it's something THAT i just
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: got used to as a player who wasn't this or
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: observing when you go out and you watch a, practice
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: even when it's a bunch of great players AND i
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: think you've got a bunch of really good, ones you
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: can pick out the one or two or three usually
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: even as a casual, observer where you're like, that that's
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: a different. Animal that's a dog right, there that's the
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: alpha in this. Group do we know who those guys are?
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: Yet For utah? Football like The Devin, lloyd The Spencer,
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  Speaker 1: fono the the outlier from the, Outliers if that's the
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: right way to say.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 7: IT i think we're still in the process of FINDING
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  Speaker 7: i would hate to just like start listing names and
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 7: all of a, sudden guys are, like well what about?
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 6: Me but.
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  Speaker 7: One Guy i'm just extremely excited, about just because he's
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 7: he's put the work in and, he's As Marshaun lynch would,
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 7: say all about that action is way Shan. OKAY i
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 7: cannot wait to see what what this guy. Does he's you,
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 7: know he's lifting the right, way he's eating the right,
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 7: way he's practicing the right. Way So i'm excited for his.
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  Speaker 1: Season, well we're very excited for the season. OVERALL i
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: appreciate you giving us some time. TODAY i know it's
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: very very. Busy we'll cut you loose, now, coach and
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: we'll see you up there in just over a couple of.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 7: Weeks oh, see you're the.
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  Speaker 4: Man.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 7: Brother can't.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: Wait thank, You Morgan. Scalley love, you. Dude holy, cow
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: we are so, close ladies and. Gentlemen that is your
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: head coach at The university Of, Utah Morgan. Scalley the
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: REASON i asked him that last question is because those
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: tone setter type players are important for a roster to.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: Have AND i love the, answer AND i didn't expect
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: him to start rattling off a bunch of, dudes because
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: if you're rattling off a bunch of, guys you're, lying,
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: Right And Morgan scalley's not ever going to be that
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: guy who gives a fake answer on.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 2: Something so.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: When morgan was a player on This utah football, team
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: he was one of those. Dudes you walk out there
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: and his presence was vocal and noticeable because of. That but,
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: right the way that that guy moved was a little bit.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: Different the way That Eric weddle moved was a little bit,
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: different the way That chris Kim oyatu on That Fiesta
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: bowl team, move the way That Alex smith carried. Himself
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: if you were not even a football, fan you could
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: walk out onto a field like that and you could be, like, Oh,
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: okay that, Guy i'm gonna pay attention to that guy having.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: That at the running back.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: Position if Way Shawn parker ends up being, that that's.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: Important And i'm not just talking about who is the physically,
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: like who's the, biggest, scariest most impressive. Body it's way
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: more than. That that Wasn't morgan when he was a, Player,
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: Right that Wasn't wettle when he was a. PLAYER i
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: think that you, Know Devin lloyd kind of checked all
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 1: those boxes when he was a linebacker for The university Of.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: Utah but you could be a soccer fan and walk
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: out there and See Devin lloyd and just be, like, oh,
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: geez what is? That why is that big guy moving
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: faster than the small? Guy why was he able to
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: track down the one hundred and seventy five pound slot
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: receiver on that crossing? Route like why was he there
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: already when the running back came through the? Hole, right
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: you can notice some of these, things and you got
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: to have them even on really great, teams even like
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: a super Loaded Ohio state roster or a super Loaded oregon,
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: roster you're gonna have those. Guys BYU's got a really
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: complete team this. Year, right there's a couple of guys
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: where you're gonna watch him and you're gonna, Go, okay
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: that's The satwala kid everyone's been talking.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 2: About, NOW i, understand, right.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: We don't know who they are for The university Of utah,
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: yet because you've got the like sort of it's a
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: peanut butter sandwich where you've, cut you've spread the peanut
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: butter almost evenly across every position, group every. Player, right
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: IF i tell You Rabbit evans, okay thumbs. Up, YEAH
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: i Like Rabbit. Evans Nate, Richie, Yeah Nate ritchie thumbs. Up,
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: OKAY i Like Nate. Richie Jackson, Benny, YEAH i Like Jackson.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: Benny like Maybe Jackson benny is that guy who ends
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: up being an outlier from the, outliers AS i phrased, it,
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: Right Kelvin obot from a physical, standpoint should be that guy.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 2: Eventually is he? YET i don't think?
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 10: So?
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: Right is Thereway williams just because he's six,', Eight well
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: i'm talking about when.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: He plays is he the dude that finishes?
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: Every block is he the dude that he's just a
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: little bit quicker off? The line his knockback is a
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: little bit? More significant is that person on the? Defensive?
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: Line right star Low to lalay was unnaturally quick for. His,
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: Size yeah and you noticed it even when he was
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: playing next to other. Good players you would notice that
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: his punch was a little, bit faster that it moved
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: the offensive lineman just a little, bit more that he
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: was a little bit more solid on the double team than.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: Anyone else and those were really good Players. Around, Star
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: Right paul krueger was a dude that you noticed when
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: you walked out onto the football field because of how
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: fluid his, movement was because of how graceful a man
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: that size was trying to bend. The edge and you
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: have to have them On this utah. Football team you
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: can win even if you don't have like, obvious ones
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: but you have to have somebody that everyone else on
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: this roster is. Effectively chasing HOW do i make myself
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: as good as? That guy HOW do i make it
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: so THAT when i appear on the film next, to him,
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: it's not oh, my gosh look how good he is
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: and you stink? Comparatively RIGHT and i, don't Know Like
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: devin dampier In His new, mexico film was?
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 2: That dude.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: He was healthy In His new mexico film for a lot,
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: of it and he was playing against. Inferior competition he
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: was playing at a level of football where the guys
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: are just there's fewer Of the Devon dam piers In
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: The Mount west conference than obviously In the Big. Twelve
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: conference when you step up to a, higher Level, like
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: bird fickleb might be, that dude right that we saw
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: Like when bird ran the football, last year he is
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: that guy he's the outlier of the outliers where there's
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: just something about, his vision the way that he. FALLS
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: forward i mean the fact that you think a big,
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: hits coming that contact is going to, be flush and
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: then there's just, enough wiggle enough adjustment to path or
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: trajectory that, you're, like, oh okay never mind that ended
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: up being a fifteen yard gain instead of a one.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: Yard Loss like bird could be that guy eight seven
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: seven three five three zero seven hundred for you who
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: are going to be the outliers of. THE outliers i
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: think we probably got kind of lazy with it last
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: year because at this juncture of the season in, fall
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: camp we were, just, Like Yeah spencer fano because it
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: was and it Still.
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 2: His, Spencerfano right, it's Like like.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: Spencerfano is even AT the, nfl level he's showing that
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: he is.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 2: An.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: Outlier there a guy that big is not supposed to be,
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: That nimble and it Was noticed. Caleb b lombo on
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: the other side was pretty darn close to the exact.
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: Same thing the other offensive, lineman awesome, really, good, experienced,
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: tough capable.
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 2: But there's something about they make it.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: Look easy the freaks in the room make it look
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: easier than the other.
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 2: Guys do.
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: The reaction time for Like A clark phillips was a
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: little bit different than even the other really good guys
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: who played.
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 2: Around Him.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: When julian blackman broke on, a football he was there
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: a half step before everyone else because he didn't have
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: the same like hesitancy in, its processing or he didn't
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: have the same false step where he went half an
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: inch the wrong way at one time. Or another and
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 1: it's it's something that just separates the really really great
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: ones from the ones who are maybe even, all conference maybe,
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: even good but they're not like the holy what? Is
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: THAT so i appreciate him giving us at least a.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: Taste of.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: That Way sean parker might be, that guy because if
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 1: you have a, running back especially RUNNING back i think
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: is going to touch the ball about twenty something times,
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: a game and he has done everything the right Way
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 1: like morgan, is suggesting and he is confident because. Of
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: that and we Spoke with Wayshan at big twelve media
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: days and he was not shy about wanting more from
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: himself and. Expecting more not wanting is the wrong way
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: to say expecting more from himself because of Exactly what
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: morgan was talking about because of. The preparation never mind
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: that he's, physically strong that. He's talented everyone in college
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 1: football at this level is physically strong. And talented the
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 1: worst Guy on utah football team, right now like the
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 1: least impressive physical specimen on that football team right now
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 1: outside of, the kickers is somebody who's very physically strong.
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 1: And impressive i'm talking the number one hundred and four
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 1: out of one hundred and five. Position players, you're, like
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: wow that kid is he just squatted whatever five?
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 2: Hundred?
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 1: Pounds right they all, Have it they all. Have that
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 1: the thing that puts you on a different level is
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 1: how easy, it is how smooth, it is how fluid,
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 1: it is how much you make it look like you're
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: supposed to be, doing it not that you're forcing your
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: body to. Do it and the more confident you are
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 1: because of, the work because of, the preparation the easier, that,
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 1: is right there's no nerves associated. With it you get
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 1: into these flow states as athletes if you have.
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 2: THAT confidence.
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 1: I appreciate morgan jumping on for, you know fifteen. SIXTEEN
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 1: minutes i could pick his brain on all that stuff
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 1: for like an hour and we could get he's he's
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 1: in a position where he probably doesn't want to share
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 1: a ton.
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 2: Right now but.
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 1: Having versatility in the safety, room massively massively important For
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 1: this utah, football roster even if all of those guys.
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 1: Stay healthy and he alluded he kind of shouted out
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: LIKE A sioni vake AND. An rj hubert and, you
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 1: know the guys that can, come downhill the guys that
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 1: can play in the box when you need, him to
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 1: the guys that can play the nickel position when you need.
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 1: Them to not every safety is capable. Of that not
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 1: every safety is built the. Right way not every safety
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 1: has the right mindset or the right footwork slash skill set.
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 1: For that so having some versatility there is going to
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 1: be Big For colton swan in his first year as a.
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 1: DEFENSIVE coordinator i didn't GET to i. Should have it's, my,
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 1: bad bad bad interview. BY me i didn't get to,
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 1: talking about, you know the defensive line and establishing the
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 1: physicality and the. Trenches there that's that's A faux paul,
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 1: by me because that improved run defense that is drastically
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 1: Needed for utah only happens if those guys. Play well
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 1: and those guys only play well in the season if
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 1: they're preparing well and in building. The, BASE now i
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 1: don't have any doubts about the way that. THEY'RE coached
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 1: I Think luther ellis is criminally underrated from the. National
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 1: circles everyone respects what he did as a player and
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 1: who he was as. A player i don't know that
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 1: people fully appreciate the impact he has as. A coach
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 1: i don't KNOW if i even fully appreciate the impact
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 1: he has as.
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 2: A coach big Thanks To.
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 1: Morgan scalley shout Out to keither Mcjenkin And paul kirk
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 1: and one who makes it possible for us to interview
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 1: the head coach At the University of utah while he is.
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 1: In camp didn't have. ENOUGH time i should have asked
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 1: him about if he ever. COLLECTED cards i was debating
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 1: about getting a near. About it if he's still, ripping packs,
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 1: YOU know.
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 3: I would have gotten your ear, about IT but i
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 3: didn't want to ruin a good interview that you're doing.
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 2: Over there and by the way he laughed, It off
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 2: morgan is shredded. Right now, oh yeah.
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 1: He, is, Ripped Dude, MORGAN scalley i if he takes his.
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 1: Shirt off now it probably looks better than when he was. A,
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 1: player Dude, Is jack.
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna you, know what that's gonna be. My goal
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 2: that's gonna be my goal before the end of.
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 1: The season we're gonna see if we could get him
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 1: to go tarps off and give us. A, flex.
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 2: Yes you think we can make. IT happen i think
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 2: we could make it happen if you.
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 1: Show Up is morgan scally only getting ripped so that
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 1: he can celebrate a game by ripping off his shirt
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 1: and waving. It around probably not big Thanks to morgan for.
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 1: Hopping on I'm sure. Spence checkets we'll give you a
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 1: chance to re listen to that if you missed it
• 2:04:16
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• 2:04:20
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• 2:04:30
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  Speaker 9: One fm welcome back To.
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 2: The Show.
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 1: O'Connell show i don't know if there Are any chargers fans.
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 2: Out there.
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 1: They don't even have fans of their own home stadium or.
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 1: Home STATE but I Think justin herbert and people's Affection
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 1: For justin herbert got a few folks thinking they Might be.
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 2: Charger Fans maybe.
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 1: Ultimately that franchise appears to be Snake bit their, Starting Center,
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 1: tyler biadas is going to be out for an indeterminate
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 1: amount of time because of, an injury a left knee
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 1: injury during a joint practice against the forty.
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 2: Nine, Ers.
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 1: Now justin herbert is among the many young quarterbacks IN
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 1: the nfl that we have a tendency to want to
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 1: like crown, and, say oh this guy's the next, Best
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: whatever he's the next, great whatever this guy's Gonna Be john.
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 2: Elway someday he has not.
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 1: From a, Team standpoint he has not Dragged the chargers
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 1: into the spotlight the way a lot of people hoped
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 1: he would be. Able To jim harbaugh talks about him
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 1: like he is the greatest thing that has ever happened
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 1: to the game.
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 2: Of football.
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 1: I'm A justin herbert supporter fan to a. CERTAIN extent
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 1: i think he's a really. NICE player i don't know
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 1: that he's going to be the guy that changes the
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 1: entire outlook for, a franchise especially when the offensive line
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 1: continues to be snake BIT. IN la i Almost Said
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 1: san diego so bummer if you're a fan Of The
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 1: San diego chargers that are ACTUALLY The.
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 2: La chargers on the.
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 1: Injury front IN, the nfl you're starting to hear the
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 1: bumps and bruises accumulate out of joint practices.
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 2: And camps there position battles being won.
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 1: And lost in, college football several teams announcing they're, starting
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks which is for a fan Of the University of
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 1: utah and someone who has followed this program for, so
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 1: long it's almost a hilarious thing to see because why
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 1: would you ever give someone the advantage of knowing who
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 1: your starting quarterback was going. To be they're going to
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 1: figure it out, soon. Enough anyway but for so long
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 1: it was almost against the policy of the local coaches
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 1: and teams here to go out there and give, some
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 1: transparency to give a real answer on that kind. Of
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 1: stuff you're seeing it announcements come Out Of. North carolina
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 1: you're seeing Announcements.
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 7: In.
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 1: Stanford, stanford actually there's a couple of local connections still Associated.
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 1: With Stanford steve, taates kid as FAR as, i know
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 1: is still. Playing there stanford is they're going to be
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 1: starting A former, michigan quarterback a guy who started four
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 1: games At the University, Of Michigan. Davis warren actually started
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 1: more than. Four Games davis Warren at michigan had eleven
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 1: hundred yards passing seven touchdowns ooh, nine interceptions though back
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four he tore his acl in the
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 1: right knee sat out the whole twenty twenty. Five season
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 1: he Transferred to Stanford. In january and you want to
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 1: talk about a guy who's been through a lot already
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 1: as a young, football player as a, young athlete you
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 1: actually had leukemia as a junior in high school and
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 1: ended up coming back to play football after successfully. Beating
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 1: CANCER so i think it's a fair we could say
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 1: we're Rooting For davis warren to have good things happen
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 1: for Him.
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 2: At stanford i'm.
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 1: Still waiting after we gave you the conversation ABOUT From
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 1: cbs sports article about the cost of doing business in. College,
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 1: Football now i'm still Waiting for stanford to kind of
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 1: like decide that they care and Announce that they're actually
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 1: going to try to feel the competitive roster and they're
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 1: going to Give, To vieta pritchard and company a chance IN.
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 1: The acc it's not like you have to have you
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 1: don't have to have a group Of all americans to
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 1: win IN. The acc, Right now miami. IS good I
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 1: think cal actually is going to have a really interesting roster.
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 2: This, Year.
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 1: Duke, North Carolina, florida state some of, These, teams clemson
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 1: you don't to insert yourself quickly and emphatically back into
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 1: the top four IN The. ACC conference i really don't
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 1: think would be as Hard as stanford fans are making
• 2:10:19
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  Speaker 1: Year again have you have you noticed all of the
• 2:19:33
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• 2:19:44
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  Speaker 1: Right now they're they're they're allowing the the female celebrity
• 2:20:29
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• 2:20:43
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• 2:20:46
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• 2:20:50
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  Speaker 5: About influencers they're everywhere in, the gym like just they
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• 2:22:46
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• 2:22:49
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• 2:22:57
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• 2:23:37
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• 2:24:30
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• 2:25:38
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• 2:25:40
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• 2:25:56
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• 2:26:06
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  Speaker 5: like sean that will say stop filming, Your workouts dude
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 5: you because here's. The thing if he's, your friend he's
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 5: you're embarrassing all. OF us i had a friend show
• 2:27:36
  Speaker 5: up to dinner once With a fedora and, a Scarf and,
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 5: i'm like you can't. Sit here you have to you
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 5: can't sit at. Our table i'm not letting you. See,
• 2:27:43
  Speaker 5: it oh he's the. Sweetest guy only good guys wear at. The,
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 5: fedoras well he was going through, a breakup and you know.
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 5: The deal you go through, the breakup you go through.
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 5: The divorce, you're LIKE should i wear? New HATS should i?
• 2:27:52
  Speaker 5: Try SOMETHING am i? A? Cardigan?
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 2: Sweater, guy, now like you're just? Trying stuff and he was.
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 5: Trying stuff but try stuff away from the friend group
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 5: because then people. Walk in it's like fedora. And scarf
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 5: all those. Guys suck if one of them was Wearing
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 5: a fedora in.
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 1: A scarf what makes me feel bad about especially like
• 2:28:12
  Speaker 1: in our. Age, demographic right if you look good right
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 1: now with your, shirt off you should be proud. Of,
• 2:28:17
  Speaker 1: that yeah you gotta be able to be proud of
• 2:28:21
  Speaker 1: it without calling attention to it yourself by putting it on.
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 5: The, Internet correct and you have you have to be
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 5: really careful when like you might think they are ready
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 5: to take the, shirt off but you need like another
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 5: three or, four months, you know like. Keep going we
• 2:28:39
  Speaker 5: all got, your back but like you don't fit into a,
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 5: medium yet so let's take that. Sweater back it's not it's,
• 2:28:45
  Speaker 5: you know it's it is clinging to your body. Right
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 5: now medium is a, Child size so, come, on man can't,
• 2:28:53
  Speaker 5: escape this so you got to you gotta. Be, careful
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 5: yeah you know you're making.
• 2:28:58
  Speaker 2: Some progress we're.
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 5: All proud i'll tell, you, WHAT man i got a
• 2:29:01
  Speaker 5: guy in my neighborhood and he runs, almost DAILY and
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 5: i think it's a great thing that.
• 2:29:08
  Speaker 2: He's doing.
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 5: But he should not have a shirt. Sounds horrible he
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 5: just shouldn't have a, shirt off. You KNOW and i
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 5: respect that he thinks, he should but it's like.
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 2: It's.
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 5: Admirable honestly i'll be driving to work or Whatever and i'll.
• 2:29:25
  Speaker 5: See him i'm like, my man, keep exercising keep, it up,
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 5: love handles but mix in a tank.
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 2: Or something bro.
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 5: The delusional confidence to release, an album to run around
• 2:29:37
  Speaker 5: campus with your shirt off when you're thirty seven percent, Body,
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 5: FAT like i, appreciate it but we all need a
• 2:29:44
  Speaker 5: friend that can, be like don't, do that don't wear,
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 5: the fedora don't release.
• 2:29:47
  Speaker 2: The, Album Okay Morgan Scalley jordan us on, The, shoulder.
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 2: Awesome heard it was great to Hear.
• 2:29:53
  Speaker 1: From morgan appreciate him giving us some time during. Fall
• 2:29:56
  Speaker 1: camp we'll bring that back on. My show you'll hear
• 2:29:58
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• 2:30:00
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• 2:30:08
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• 2:30:11
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• 2:30:14
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