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INTERVIEW: Taye Diggs, J Carter & Troy Brookins Talk Production Partnership, Hollywood Vs. Influencers +More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 3: Law La Rosa is here as well, and we got
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  Speaker 3: some special guests in the building.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, you got the brother t Diggs. Is this
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  Speaker 1: your first time here? None, I've been here, haven't been
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  Speaker 1: in a minute. It's long. I've been a long time.
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  Speaker 1: I've been here before. I'm a black man, Okay, couple time, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: after you.
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  Speaker 3: It was a long time ago, all right, Jay Carter
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  Speaker 3: and Troy Brookings welcome fellas.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, feeling good, feeling good, happy to be here.
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  Speaker 5: What what do we owes threesome.
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  Speaker 6: comes out, smooth my work.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, we're a producer team.
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  Speaker 6: Newly formed and you know, kind of happened organically where
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  Speaker 6: we started to produce content as we cast a Troy
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  Speaker 6: and I and uh, you know the natural kind of
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  Speaker 6: progression of it. You know what, Let's let's let's three
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  Speaker 6: black men. Let's let's go and own this ourselves. Let's
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  Speaker 6: build a table, let's build a couple of seats. So yeah,
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  Speaker 6: that's what we on this occasion, also to promote the
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  Speaker 6: new movie Nice that.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like that's the that's not that's the only
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  Speaker 5: way in Hollywood now, like to form your own production
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  Speaker 5: company and shoot your own stuff. I mean tell you
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  Speaker 5: probably know better than most of them.
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  Speaker 7: I mean it's like, I mean, obviously there's the way
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  Speaker 7: things have been done. But if you want to guarantee
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  Speaker 7: anything at this point, you you've got to do it yourself.
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  Speaker 1: Because there's no shame these days.
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  Speaker 7: People will lie right to your face and there's no
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  Speaker 7: code and for someone like me. I just got frustrated
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  Speaker 7: because I like to play by the rules, but when
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  Speaker 7: the people on my own team are not playing by
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  Speaker 7: the rules but then breaking and I'm watching them break them.
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  Speaker 1: But let's do this ourselves.
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  Speaker 7: And right now, with social media and everything, it's proof that,
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  Speaker 7: like people are taking control absolutely and.
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  Speaker 1: I love that.
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  Speaker 8: How did you three come together?
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  Speaker 5: How did this happen?
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  Speaker 2: I can I can take that if you want, sure.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So, uh we had a movie. Uh so, I'm a
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  Speaker 6: part of Freely Films. It's me Tonya right, my wife Lashawn,
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  Speaker 6: she's a partner in business and in life. We have
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  Speaker 6: a production company and so we were producing this movie
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  Speaker 6: called The Comeback a couple.
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  Speaker 2: Of years ago, and actually we cast the lead.
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  Speaker 6: Female in the role. And this this is how you know,
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  Speaker 6: things just happen and you got to embrace that opportunity,
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  Speaker 6: right right, Yeah, the universe just happened. So the agent
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  Speaker 6: for the female called me. The female lead called me
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  Speaker 6: and said, hey, have you cast the male lead yet?
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  Speaker 6: And I'm just bopping around. I'm like, nah, we haven't
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  Speaker 6: cast it. We've got a few people we're talking to you, right,
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  Speaker 6: And she was like, well, Tate Diggs is seeing the script?
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  Speaker 6: Would you be interested in Tate Diggs? Now that was
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  Speaker 6: the most obvious, you know, But but here's the thing
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  Speaker 6: about it, like and this is this is how you
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  Speaker 6: can block your blessings. I tried to talk her out
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  Speaker 6: of it because I wasn't ready.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think I was ready.
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  Speaker 7: And we think we're doing the right thing because we
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  Speaker 7: think it's humility.
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  Speaker 2: But we're getting in our own wedding in our own way.
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  Speaker 6: And so she talked me into it. She was like, Jay, no,
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  Speaker 6: this is happening, Embrace it, run with it. And so
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  Speaker 6: that was a couple of years ago. He came into Atlanta,
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  Speaker 6: where I'm based, shot it. I'm hugely successful on Peacock
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  Speaker 6: as well, and uh Rest is history. So we've been
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  Speaker 6: collaborating ever since.
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  Speaker 5: I'm interested in that because if you write a script,
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  Speaker 5: you know it's great.
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  Speaker 4: At least I would think you would know it's great.
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  Speaker 5: Why wouldn't you expect anybody to read it and want
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  Speaker 5: to be a part of it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's that's the crazy thing about the business.
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  Speaker 7: Like what you said makes sense, Yeah, as it is
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  Speaker 7: now makes no sense.
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  Speaker 1: It makes no sense.
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  Speaker 7: Like if you knew the movies that got turned down,
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  Speaker 7: and if you saw the stars that were in those
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  Speaker 7: movies and what you'd be like, what, there's no rhyme
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  Speaker 7: or read like egos. I mean, it's it's really frustrating
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  Speaker 7: because you're you're you're raised to think that everything happens
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  Speaker 7: for a reason. Like I knew I was talented. I
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  Speaker 7: knew I would I got into school. When I got
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  Speaker 7: into school, I was like, Okay, black people, the business
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  Speaker 7: is going to need black people. I'm gonna move to
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  Speaker 7: New York. I can do stage or screen. That happened,
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  Speaker 7: and then I got movie after movie, and then all
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  Speaker 7: of a sudden, the rules changed. Wait, who are the influencers?
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  Speaker 2: Who is it?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know who that is.
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  Speaker 7: Wait, he got the part over but he doesn't have
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  Speaker 7: any experience, doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: He's got followers. What are followers?
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  Speaker 7: It's his videos videos? Who is anybody paint? No, he
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  Speaker 7: just put on videos and because he got all so
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  Speaker 7: it's like, you gotta adjust, Then let me do.
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  Speaker 1: I can't swear. Let's do this ourselves.
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  Speaker 7: And we'll play by their rules. But at least will
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  Speaker 7: I won't have the excuse.
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  Speaker 1: I can't complain. Now I'm gonna play it by your rules,
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  Speaker 1: but we're gonna do it our way.
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  Speaker 3: Doesn't bother you when somebody doesn't put in an amount
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  Speaker 3: of time that you did, doesn't go to the school,
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  Speaker 3: doesn't do the things that you did, and then because
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  Speaker 3: of followers, because of social media, because of a funny
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  Speaker 3: skit might get the part over you.
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  Speaker 1: Does that bother you at all?
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  Speaker 7: I mean, if there's talent there, then it's cool, you
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  Speaker 7: know what I mean? For me, I just didn't. It
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  Speaker 7: didn't make sense. I didn't care who was doing what,
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  Speaker 7: but good for you. Whatever they were doing was working,
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  Speaker 7: and I was like, good for you. But I don't
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  Speaker 7: know what to do right now?
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: Andy would come in here and show me that video.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not That's why it's this worked for me? All right, Well,
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  Speaker 7: I'll just be funny and not even I don't even.
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  Speaker 7: I don't even realize that people are watching. I would
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  Speaker 7: just like express myself and if it worked, okay, I
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  Speaker 7: don't know what's happening, but they say post, I still
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  Speaker 7: have to ask him.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like, how do I double the well? How
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  Speaker 1: do I take this and copy? You know? Well?
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  Speaker 9: We love t Diggs on Instagram and I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: I apologize because that's you never.
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  Speaker 4: Saw you like the post?
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  Speaker 1: What are you talking about?
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  Speaker 4: I never saw when he liked the post.
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  Speaker 1: He loves your post. I don't even know.
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  Speaker 7: I don't even know he put know how to read
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  Speaker 7: this response.
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  Speaker 4: Just about today, it's like, yeah, but you do realize.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, that's interesting to see to hear somebody like
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  Speaker 5: Tate Diggs feel like they had to do that.
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  Speaker 1: How do you think I feel? How do you think
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  Speaker 1: I feel? Right? That's totally good. You you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean?
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  Speaker 7: In this movie, you want Joe who's never acted in
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  Speaker 7: his life, and I can't. It's not even I can't
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  Speaker 7: get an audition. I'm not even a part of the conversation.
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  Speaker 1: That crazy.
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  Speaker 7: So I was like, I don't I don't hate that dude,
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  Speaker 7: but somebody tell me what's going on with these rules?
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  Speaker 1: Because I've worked really hard and I like to buy
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  Speaker 1: a lot of nice Really, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: how are we going to do this? Somebody just explained
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  Speaker 1: it to me, But for a minute, I was.
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  Speaker 7: Like I was I It was pushed back and people
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  Speaker 7: like to argue, well I did this, Well.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Nobody cares it.
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  Speaker 9: Seems like the formula is now that a lot of
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  Speaker 9: influencers are being casted because they can push the movie easier.
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  Speaker 1: Right, But what.
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  Speaker 9: But what happened because at first we didn't need that,
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  Speaker 9: nobody needed that.
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  Speaker 2: So budgets are smaller.
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  Speaker 6: Budgets are smaller, and so when you have an influencer
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  Speaker 6: as five million followers, that is free marketing. And so
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  Speaker 6: the studio doesn't have to come up with a you know,
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  Speaker 6: one million dollar marketing budget because they have just right now,
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  Speaker 6: we'll use just as a case study, right, because I
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  Speaker 6: cast just in the.
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  Speaker 2: Movie that I Hate I Love You, I Love You.
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  Speaker 6: Super super successful and now it's on to be the
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  Speaker 6: number one drama on too be Love That excellent. But
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  Speaker 6: you know, we we we we saw obviously just as followers,
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  Speaker 6: and we said, you know, built in marketing, right, she
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  Speaker 6: could posed, it's going to be great.
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  Speaker 2: But then I watched her actual acting work.
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  Speaker 1: She was great.
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  Speaker 2: That that was the That was the clincher, you know,
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  Speaker 2: seeing her and I got a story to tell it.
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  Speaker 1: Every morning for us.
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  Speaker 2: It worked.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it worked like okay, cool, well let me get
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  Speaker 1: on this boat.
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  Speaker 6: So INA's example, if you can marry the social media
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  Speaker 6: prowess and the following with the talent, like Jess is
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  Speaker 6: married to those two things.
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  Speaker 2: You got the winner. You have today today.
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  Speaker 1: To figure out how to make it worse cut.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I never knew that.
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  Speaker 5: So Hollywood have an evolved in in terms of the
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  Speaker 5: opportunities available to black actors since you, since you first started.
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  Speaker 5: It feels like at first I was thinking the barriers
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  Speaker 5: are just dressed differently, But now it feels like they
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  Speaker 5: don't even want you.
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  Speaker 7: General until we prove it, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 7: Like right now, we're at a time where they don't
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  Speaker 7: have control.
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  Speaker 1: Like all that stuff that you said. Soon everybody's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be talking like that, and that's not a student. Studio
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  Speaker 1: can't take credit.
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  Speaker 7: And that's what I love. We're doing it ourselves and
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  Speaker 7: no one can stop.
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  Speaker 1: Us, and it's succeeding.
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  Speaker 7: I still don't get it. Yeah, it was too good
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  Speaker 7: to be true because I was raised.
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  Speaker 1: You got to be let in.
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  Speaker 7: You can apologize, you know, be really grateful and talk
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  Speaker 7: to this meeting, go to this you know, crazy restaurant
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  Speaker 7: and meet with these studio hat.
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  Speaker 1: That's not how it goes down.
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  Speaker 7: A bunch of non people that I've never heard of
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  Speaker 7: doing funny stuff host again and then get it.
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  Speaker 9: Hey, so it's the positives and the negatives of it.
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  Speaker 9: So you you so it's bittersweet for you.
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  Speaker 7: Huh, Well it's now it's sweet because we're taking control.
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  Speaker 1: So I have no I can complain, but we now
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  Speaker 1: there's no excuse. That's why we're here. Let's get on board.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get it doing that.
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  Speaker 5: That's gonna be the most interesting thing when you as
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  Speaker 5: a production company, y'all take all the risks, put up
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  Speaker 5: the money, shoot it. You know it's good, But then
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  Speaker 5: the studio is still like, eh, well that we know
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  Speaker 5: something else.
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  Speaker 1: But that's what he said earlier.
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  Speaker 3: He said, all these black stars in these movies and
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  Speaker 3: nobody's picking them up.
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  Speaker 1: And what we were talking about, there's no risk.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's never I mean, he's.
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  Speaker 1: A little bit of money.
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  Speaker 7: You got to get somebody with a huge mansion, get
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  Speaker 7: actors that just want to be seen.
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  Speaker 1: That's what It's almost too good to be.
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  Speaker 7: True if it's a story that people like people are
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  Speaker 7: going to show up, And that's when I can give
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  Speaker 7: my finger to the studios period and be like, you
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  Speaker 7: don't need brad pet you don't need to you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, we made up our own story.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, our own people that you don't know. But our
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  Speaker 7: people are going to show up and watch them, which
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  Speaker 7: isn't supposed to happen.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, so let's hear it for black people. But let
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  Speaker 1: me ask your question, does ever bother you?
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  Speaker 4: Know?
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  Speaker 3: You have major releases that instead of the major releases
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  Speaker 3: now to b or Peacock or something that you know,
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  Speaker 3: the masters might not have seen like they've seen one
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  Speaker 3: of your other movies, were the theater, it's global.
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  Speaker 1: It's national, it's this. Does that bother you at all?
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  Speaker 1: Because you like to stay positive, don't challenging questions.
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  Speaker 6: I believe you meet your audience where they are, you know,
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  Speaker 6: And so if they're on Peacock, we'll meet you there.
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  Speaker 6: If they're on TV, we'll meet you there. If they're
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  Speaker 6: in theaters, we'll meet you there. But we're going to
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  Speaker 6: meet you where you are, as opposed to expect expecting
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  Speaker 6: you to come to where we are, like, yeah, we're
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  Speaker 6: gonna and and the you know, the magic about what
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  Speaker 6: we're doing is you know, Tay obviously international superstar.
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  Speaker 4: Right mm hmm.
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  Speaker 6: Humility speaking humbly speaking, international super walks in the door
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  Speaker 6: commands a certain level of you know, respecting people. Okay,
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  Speaker 6: we're gonna listen, right, Absolutely, I've got the funding, I've got.
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  Speaker 2: The distribution on projects.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've heard who Clarence Avon is.
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  Speaker 2: This is the young clars He is the grand connected.
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  Speaker 6: If he showed you who he has in his content,
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  Speaker 6: your mind will be blown.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 2: And so if we ever got a home of whoever set.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, so so we we we make this this combination
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  Speaker 10: of you know, the business side is taken care of
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  Speaker 10: the content, talent side is taken care of the connection
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  Speaker 10: and being able to reach certain talent, and Troy is
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  Speaker 10: taken care of.
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  Speaker 2: An example, like.
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  Speaker 7: Troy started out as like my assistant, right, so he
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  Speaker 7: he's like the last person that people want to include
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  Speaker 7: in all these meetings.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, I'm.
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  Speaker 7: Like, I need to meet with subject. Had nobody told me?
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  Speaker 7: Nobody sees me nobody hmmm. Cut to a few years
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  Speaker 7: discussions and him being working with me. He sees he
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  Speaker 7: knows how people are moving. So he's like, oh, this
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  Speaker 7: person said that they were here, but they never they
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  Speaker 7: never really committed and they blamed me. But this person
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  Speaker 7: said that you were supposed to get there, and I
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  Speaker 7: saw the I saw that you didn't get paid that much.
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  Speaker 1: So now he is like working for us. Who would
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  Speaker 1: have known. Now he's a major producer, you know, and now.
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  Speaker 7: Like I can't, I can't move without him. But they're
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  Speaker 7: not that, they're not a part of that business plan.
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  Speaker 7: He's the assistant Watts give him two years.
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  Speaker 1: I love that.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, what's that experience been like for you now? Because
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  Speaker 11: I mean it said.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, it's been It's been a ride for real. I
• 15:03
  Speaker 12: mean we I used to play football. I used to
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  Speaker 12: play professional football. That was like my first goal. My
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  Speaker 12: dream was all about football. That's all I knew. And
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  Speaker 12: God humbly blessed me with the opportunity to play All
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  Speaker 12: American And that's where me and him met. And so
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  Speaker 12: when we met, you know, everybody, you know, low key
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  Speaker 12: gravitated towards me because I would train them and teach
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  Speaker 12: them how to run a route or you know, do
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  Speaker 12: everything that I used to do.
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  Speaker 4: Play football together.
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  Speaker 13: No, no, right away, pretend.
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  Speaker 12: I love it, but yeah, no, we met. We met
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  Speaker 12: there and then you know, one day we just we
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  Speaker 12: kicked through. We grabbed some lunch at soho and he
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  Speaker 12: was like, yo, you want to be my assistant and
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  Speaker 12: I'm like, bro, I never, Yeah, I've never done it.
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  Speaker 12: And then and you know, we just took the ball
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  Speaker 12: wrong and we started at two days and I'm like, dog,
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  Speaker 12: these emails is crazy. I can't just to days like
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  Speaker 12: knowing me how I you know, put my time in.
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  Speaker 12: I'm like, I can't do two days. We got to
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  Speaker 12: lock in all the way and you know, seven seven
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  Speaker 12: years now rolling.
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  Speaker 7: And it was always Troy is great, like from the
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  Speaker 7: cool people, yeah, oh he's great, And I kept on
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  Speaker 7: hearing that. Now we're making business deals with those people.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, with him, and the people that didn't see.
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  Speaker 7: Him are now like, where are you het?
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  Speaker 1: We're good.
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  Speaker 2: I love that too.
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: You know I've heard you speak to you about issues
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: of identity and acceptance right, and it feels like this
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: is another layer of that. Like in regards to Hollywood,
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: like you maybe questioning who did you.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: Have a question who you were?
• 16:54
  Speaker 7: Well, they want you to like I never, That's what
• 16:57
  Speaker 7: didn't make sense. I've always on who I am, but
• 17:02
  Speaker 7: why don't you know? How come it's not so? Then
• 17:06
  Speaker 7: I had to move to a place where we were
• 17:07
  Speaker 7: all on the same page, which is like, you know,
• 17:10
  Speaker 7: a good lesson in identity.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: You can't let anybody else dictate that.
• 17:13
  Speaker 7: I know who I am. You know who I am.
• 17:16
  Speaker 7: And now we're all in business. Why because we know
• 17:19
  Speaker 7: each other. They don't know us.
• 17:22
  Speaker 12: Like, somebody can't come to me and be like, yo,
• 17:24
  Speaker 12: taste said this, and I'll be like, no, I already know.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: I already know what's up.
• 17:27
  Speaker 8: You know what I mean?
• 17:28
  Speaker 12: But people will try that.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: So in Hollywood, what is it is?
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: It?
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: Is it ability? Is it your box office?
• 17:36
  Speaker 7: No?
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: But like what is it?
• 17:37
  Speaker 7: Oh right now? Nobody like we're about to make what
• 17:39
  Speaker 7: it is? Nobody knows what it is now?
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why it's a great time. Yeah, nobody knows.
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: You see a movie coming out in the theaters, then
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: you're watching it on the Nobody knows what's and they're
• 17:53
  Speaker 7: always pretending like they do.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: This is a sure thing and we're on it, you
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: know what I mean.
• 17:59
  Speaker 9: Another man's wife, that is the name of him? Okay,
• 18:03
  Speaker 9: who had what to do? Because that already that I
• 18:06
  Speaker 9: already want to know.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: Another man's wife?
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: Who who wrote that?
• 18:10
  Speaker 9: Whose idea was it?
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: What's happening?
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: Yes, So shout out to Maverick Entertainment, and you gotta
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: have allies, right like.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: We we we can do what we can do.
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: But you know, we know who's still run in Hollywood, right,
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: so and you have to have those allies. And so
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: Maverick Entertainment, Doug Kelsey, Erica huge allies.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: You know, they finance our work, they distribute our work.
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: So they said, you know what, Jake Carter, why don't
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: you come up with an idea based on this premise?
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: And so I brought in the writer by the name
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: of Brion the Cole, who said, uh, yeah, I think
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: I can tackle that. And you know, it was a
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: like the story, it just it just puts you in
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: the choke hold, you know. And it's it's about a
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: young couple who are struggling backs up against the wall,
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: losing their losing their house, losing their car. Uh husband
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: lost his job and then to make matters words yeah truly.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but you know the world is just banging
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: on them.
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: Right then the husband finds out his mom has a
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: serious illness and she could die, and the the the
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: medical treatment that she needs and covered by insurance. So
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: they're drowning in debt and just financial issues.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: So Tay's character.
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: Comes along and he throws them a life raft and
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: he said, for two million dollars, I can change your life.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: But he looks at the wife.
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: And he says, the only thing I want to return
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: is one weekend with you. Now, it's one weekend that
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: this this husband is going to give up his wife for.
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: Can save his mother, can save his job, could save
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: his car, could save his house, could save his marriage.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: But at what costs? So the question that we always
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: ask people, you know, and I ask you, just Envy Charlottagelaw,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: what would you do.
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: Two million dollars to save your mom, to save your house,
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: to save your car.
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: Jesus, all you got to give up one weekend your wife.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: I ain't giving up my wife though, But chance happened.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: There's a chance that nothing happens.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: They can.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: They can watch your wife. She all she has to
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: do is go.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: I know, looking at my wife, I know nothing will happen.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: But it's just the fact of pain from the guy.
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: I won't say nothing happened. What if it's Maxwell. Don't
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: your wife love Max?
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Definitely? Not definitely, But it's the premise of pain.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it just it seems like belittally.
• 20:46
  Speaker 12: And the therapy that you would need after it. That's right,
• 20:48
  Speaker 12: you know what I mean, because you're not that's a
• 20:50
  Speaker 12: mental thing after after that, because she made you know
• 20:53
  Speaker 12: you even though you feel like nothing happened, you never know.
• 20:56
  Speaker 11: You never know, doesn't go though, and all this stuff
• 20:59
  Speaker 11: does happened. You lose a lot of stuff on the
• 21:02
  Speaker 11: back end, so then you still need Then you're going,
• 21:05
  Speaker 11: I mean, I got you talking about my mom here,
• 21:07
  Speaker 11: like you're saying that, like I would lose my mom.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: You don't.
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: Think about fifteen years of Runway's sixty's young six.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: Is not what you do?
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, two million?
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: There you're going, we're talking about.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: What happened with them?
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: You heard?
• 21:36
  Speaker 9: I'm going, what do we lose that we lose our mom.
• 21:41
  Speaker 11: Mom, your house?
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: What else?
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Your marriage? Everything crumbles?
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Not necessarily it depends on you if you lose the marriage.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: I need to see the nuance, Like do I know
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: who the guy is? We have a background on him
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: that we know.
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: You know he's meant to me? Well, you know what
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: I mean, he's all above levels, Like this is me,
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: this is what's going on. I want you to meet me,
• 22:01
  Speaker 7: and there's no manipulation. Everything, there's a contract.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: More's chestnuts. Why can't I the sequel.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: The way, I'm just saying, I'm going what you doing?
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying do nothing.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: I'm just saying, why can't I Why can't I go?
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Why did they have to be on?
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: The guy not gay? Like this?
• 22:31
  Speaker 8: Right?
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: It's not.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: That it's not that say I was gay?
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: I just said why can't I go? But that's what
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: a man does, right when you when you when it's
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: a job that.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: You don't want your woman to do it.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: But the guy is like, I don't know, I don't
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: like dudes. I don't want your wife.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: I'm asking for your wife type of arrange.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: He said, why can't I go? Let me do what
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: you want to do. You said, the guy's not Diddy,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: Even like Jay looked at me and said, I want
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: your wife, magga one.
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: But but you see the conversation that it sparks, right,
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: and so that's what we're that, that's what we're banking
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: on is you know people sitting on their couch, you know,
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: the wife cutting her eyes at her husband, the husband
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: cutting his eyes and his wife like you know, damn,
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: what would you do?
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: What would you do? It is a million? What's your number?
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Two million, three million, four million? You know what?
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: What?
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: What will it cost you in the short term and
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: what's going to cost you in the long term once
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: there's a ripple effect in the fallout. So it just
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: sparks up this really cool dialogue.
• 23:34
  Speaker 9: And then all of the relatable issues like that they're
• 23:37
  Speaker 9: going through even before they get to the point of
• 23:40
  Speaker 9: you know Tay's character, right, Like a lot of people are.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: Going through it.
• 23:44
  Speaker 9: The economy that you know, they we're in people's moms
• 23:47
  Speaker 9: or you know, people's parents period, are getting sick. Insurance
• 23:50
  Speaker 9: is not covering things that they need. Some people don't
• 23:52
  Speaker 9: even have insurance because of you know, government issues and
• 23:54
  Speaker 9: all that type of things. So it's like it's very
• 23:57
  Speaker 9: relatable until you get to the saving great.
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: Here because literally insurance and insurance company they are.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: They are here to make money.
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: They're not nonprofit, they are a for profit companies. So
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: they will say this procedure, this treatment cost too much.
• 24:12
  Speaker 11: You had this fire script and you were surprised or
• 24:15
  Speaker 11: I felt like you weren't ready. When is like I
• 24:17
  Speaker 11: want to be a part of it.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Like I'm listening to the Congress.
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: No, that was that was the comeback. This one I knew, yeah,
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: this one, this one.
• 24:24
  Speaker 12: I was like, hey, he called me and was like, Yo,
• 24:27
  Speaker 12: let's availability we just go around.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: He was definitely with it because he I.
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: Mean, he fits that mysterious brooding. You can look at
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: him and tell he he fits it.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: So I'm tremendously talented.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: And we as actors, we we forget.
• 24:49
  Speaker 7: Like I'm doing a show with Wayne Brady and he
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: was like, hey, man, would you We were thinking about you?
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: And I was like, oh, I was on your mond.
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: Like you get caught up in your own world and
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: if you're in any way grounded, you forget that other
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: people see you in a certain way.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: Did you ever forget who you were?
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Constantly? Constantly? And I gotta be reminded, Like that's something
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: I gotta work on because sometimes I'll be ashamed too
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: and people.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: You cold, they know who you are?
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: Ye wound, No, because I know that's the thing.
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: It's it's it has to do with like being raised
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: in the church and you know, being taught you need
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: to be humble, you know, think about others like It's
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: like what they teach you. If you really want to succeed,
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: you have to do the exact opposite. You got to
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: be like a Kanye West. I'm not gonna apologize. I
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: belong here, Boom, don't don't knock open the door. Those
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: are the people that really and that's not.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: How I was raised.
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: And I took a lot of pride in like following
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: the rules, and I still made it through. But I'm like, oh,
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: I could have been so much more if I like
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: I remember going on auditions and being like, you know
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: what this isn't I think I know somebody else who's
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: better for this part literally, and then feeling proud giving
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: a part away, like if it was a hood thing Lauren.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Told me about what was it?
• 26:36
  Speaker 12: Uh, I was the one that was was you were
• 26:42
  Speaker 12: going to do? He did and Matrix was a matrix or.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know. This is really great for radio though,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: really great.
• 26:52
  Speaker 11: About the movies we would have recognized that were like
• 26:54
  Speaker 11: big successes and you.
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: I don't know if it went, but I just remember thinking,
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: you know, I wanted to like do the right thing
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: instead of like promote myself and then and then and
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: and sometimes you know that that can be.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: It can lead in the wrong direction. And I'm still learning.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: I don't think you can have an act to Kanye West,
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: because in order to promote yourself, people got to be.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: Giving you work, because your work is your calling card.
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: Like we we we rate Denzel because all of the
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: times we've seen Denzel and these fantastic girls. You rate
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: Tom Hanks because all the times you've seen him in
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: these fantastic growths.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's the same reason we ran you.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: But that would be the only thing you could actually
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: use to stick your chest out.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: But I forget you got classics though, I forget.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: Oh man, I've still got a groove bag best man
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: Brown shut.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: You don't forget when you did them. But I don't know.
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: I don't know until somebody comes up to me, and
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: then the industry like, oh that's it's a fan like
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: the whole all this time, everyone's telling you to stay grounded,
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: you know what I mean, And then you take a
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: person that's like raised in the in the church, and
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: I'm trying to be humble, and don't you know what
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: I'm saying.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be like this actor.
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: I don't want to be like that actor, this person
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: stepped too far over the line.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: And they so then you just like all of a sudden.
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: You kind of forget who what you're worth, trying to
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: like follow the rules. I'm being a good person, I'm
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: being humble. Don't you know make sure you look after
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: the other person. No, that doesn't work. But it took
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: a minute, and it took a bunch of people, but
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: to be like, don't you know who you are? And
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: at first I'm like, oh, this person, he doesn't get it.
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: And then you're like, wait, Will Smith, and you look
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: at all the people that are doing it Kevin Harp
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: where I was like, oh, these guys are too they're
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: they're too full of themselves. Look at where they are,
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: and it's like you have to be in order.
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: To I believe that he aumility though, like you save
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: it for the people who deserve it.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, you save that humility and that approach for
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: the people who deserve it, who keep it works for you?
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: You know, thirty years later I thought it was humility.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: It wasn't that.
• 29:16
  Speaker 9: What about other people that that you had, like like
• 29:21
  Speaker 9: you got closer that you did projects with like a
• 29:23
  Speaker 9: Morse Chestnut or like friends like do you have like
• 29:26
  Speaker 9: do they do you have these conversations with them?
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Do they like like what's wrong? Like I know more so, well, yes,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I started seeing him like I
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: look at him on Instagram.
• 29:37
  Speaker 11: That's not it's funny her Instagram up.
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: He took charge and I'm like, well, if Mars is
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: doing because we're both capricorns, yeah, we both play by
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: the rules.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: We like to work hard. I was like, oh, I said, okay.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: Is doing its ain't showing ass.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Now, just be dancing.
• 30:01
  Speaker 9: He never shows online his old mask.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Remember about ring I did. I did not say nothing
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: about that man's as he said, you should be on
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: while you're talking about.
• 30:15
  Speaker 14: Right now, But no, I tell you, I'm serious man.
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: Brown Sugar is one of my favorite movies ever. Like
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: that was the first and last hip hop brom com.
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: I don't know why that didn't open up a whole
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: new genre, and I always wanted how I did working
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: on that film change the way you think about like
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: the connection between music and relationships and just coachure period.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Oh it taught me.
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: It taught me, you know what I mean. I didn't
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: know that, and I was very proud because that was
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: like something new and innovative and it worked, and I
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: was like, oh we wow, we are good.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: This is with the music in this okay? All right
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: black people?
• 31:04
  Speaker 7: Like that's when it started to really connect, like we
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: can do anything we can't. We can do more than
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: just catch up. We can create this thing with music
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: that we created and take all the elements of some
• 31:18
  Speaker 7: of the white movies. But then this it's our story
• 31:21
  Speaker 7: and awesome.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: What was it about you.
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: That made that love story feel so authentic?
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: Oh, that's just some kind of I don't know, it's
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: a chemistry. Like I've been in this business long enough
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: to know I have I have no idea, but it
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: just worked. It just worked, and some things you just
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: I'm very I feel very blessed because for a while
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: I would hear stories of other just horror stories of
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: people that were playing couples and they hated each other, and.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I did not I had no idea what that was like,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean I didn't know how lucky. I
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: didn't know how lucky I was.
• 32:02
  Speaker 9: You know, did you hatting me along when she slept chasst.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Man at that moment?
• 32:10
  Speaker 9: But it was the right choice and it was a
• 32:13
  Speaker 9: good acting yo, you did not break, though it was
• 32:15
  Speaker 9: the right choice.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: You didn't know it was coming, but that's phenomenal. He
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: did not break. It was written in the script.
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: But in a situation like that, you need to have
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: a stuntman come, and it's supposed to be a fake slapper.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: It's the whole thing. And the stumm man didn't come,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: and she just slapped and she she should have.
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: But I had just come out of you know, drama school,
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: and I was like, why didn't rebhears?
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: And how dare you?
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: The director didn't have my back? How many takes that?
• 32:53
  Speaker 11: Do you feel like The Best Man Unfinished Business? The
• 32:55
  Speaker 11: book that Malcolm Delee just did, do you feel like
• 32:57
  Speaker 11: that should be on TV or like a series versus
• 33:01
  Speaker 11: the book?
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: So you know what, the book that.
• 33:06
  Speaker 11: He the recent book he just did, that's supposed to
• 33:08
  Speaker 11: continue the conversation.
• 33:10
  Speaker 7: As an actor, I'll say yes, just because I want
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: to be in it, but as as I love what
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: he's doing and that makes perfect sense, and and I
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: love that it's happening because I love that you can
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: take the idea that a book about a book, you
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: know what I mean?
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: I'm very impressed with him.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: We had him up here to think that don't make
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: no sense to me about the best Man, and I
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: guess it goes into what we're talking about today. It
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: broke records on Peacock, right, it was like the most
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: view series ever on Peacock. Wouldn't common sense say hey,
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: let's do more of this?
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: You said, common sense?
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: Yes, that's the key, exactly.
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: That's the key because you think about who's at the
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: table making these decisions. Allow those folks at the table,
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: they don't care about us, They don't you know, we
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: can do numbers, but we constantly have to prove ourselves over.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: We have to get out. It doesn't make sense.
• 34:00
  Speaker 7: You have agents that are turning down jobs that will
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: make them money.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but because of their ego. Yep. So it's like, well,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: what this you know?
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't get it, and I'm spending too much
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: time trying to figure it out. So let's just thank
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: god there are other people that I can look at.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Oh it's working, well, then let's go.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: It feels very dre leaving Millennium Records. Man, that's how
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: I feel what I feel like.
• 34:31
  Speaker 11: It's literally one of my questions here is like your
• 34:33
  Speaker 11: character and from Sugar is so you in real life,
• 34:36
  Speaker 11: everything you're going through now, and then what the music
• 34:38
  Speaker 11: industry is going through right now.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Too, Except this is like a surefire thing.
• 34:47
  Speaker 7: Like I'm not I don't feel like I'm taking the risk.
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: The only reason I'm doing it is because it works.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is our third film with Say.
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: We had to come back huge hit on Peacock Both
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: Eyes Open went out to theaters and it was the
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: number one movie on Stars for four weeks in a row.
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: And then coming up with another Man's Wife. It's it's
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: they always slept on the performance.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: They're not waking up now. I'm gonna be a part
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: They can see you camera.
• 35:23
  Speaker 11: I would watch it for all of you guys, because
• 35:25
  Speaker 11: there's so much content out there now, people that are
• 35:27
  Speaker 11: looking to do it their own way. How do they
• 35:29
  Speaker 11: get like out of the noise and like actually get
• 35:32
  Speaker 11: people to respect what they're doing, get people to want
• 35:34
  Speaker 11: to finance it and not just stay on social forever
• 35:37
  Speaker 11: or you know what I mean, Like build it where
• 35:39
  Speaker 11: it's like a business is elevated.
• 35:42
  Speaker 7: Honestly, nobody knows. I would say content and quality. That's
• 35:48
  Speaker 7: not necessarily the case. It's like you got to look
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: and see what's what's hitting now and jump on that, or.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Take a risk and try something new.
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: And you know, the content may vary, right, I mean,
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry, quality of content may vary. And obviously the
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: better the quality, the better opportunity you have for it
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: to get seen and the people to take you seriously.
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: But the end of the day, it's about a compelling story,
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: and you have to have a great story. Everything starts
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: with a great story, and then you have to have
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: great actors who can deliver that story. If he have
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: that formula, nothing still guaranteed. I mean, it's I mean,
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: to your point, Charlotte, it's it's it's mind boggling how
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: Malcolm cannot get a season two of It's like mind boggling, right,
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: But that's what happens, you know, And it's he was
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: very politically correct, you know, he was very you know, diplomatic, right,
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: but let me say it was some bullshit that he
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: that he is not. I mean, he is one of
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: the greatest writers of our time, one of the greatest
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: directors of our time. So so that's the lesson learned
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: is we're gonna tell our compelling stories, but we're gonna
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: we're gonna control the vehicle, and we're gonna build our
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: own seats, build our own tables, because if nobody else
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: is willing to tell our stories, well darn it, will
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: tell it.
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: And if I remember correctly, and I could be wrong, Malcolm,
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: so forgive me. I thought he kind of you kind
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: of put the onus on the actors a little bit
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: because he said, it's just all of y'all are so busy.
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: You knows so many big stars on that it's hard
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: to get you all together.
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: I mean, that was true. We were all you know,
• 37:16
  Speaker 7: everybody was blessed to be working. That was a part
• 37:19
  Speaker 7: of it.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: But I mean how long.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: I mean Sanx in the city, they figured out how
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: to do their business. Friends they figure gets.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Tiring waiting for them to let us in, you know
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: what I mean?
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: Because money makes people figure it out.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: So not even money sometimes because we were making money.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: That's what I didn't get. Why do this with this black.
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: Movie and then they don't have and they don't have
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: any explanation and they're fine with it. Why do black
• 37:52
  Speaker 7: movies disappear every once in a while. When was the
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: last black romantic comedy you saw?
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: Jesus?
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: Oh no, not a comedy.
• 38:02
  Speaker 7: Another when they were like there was one after another,
• 38:05
  Speaker 7: they were all making money.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: I guess somebody decided to not do them.
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: I guess the last one I saw was was it
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: a comedy?
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: Though forever?
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: It's not a comedy? The joint with Keith that wasn't
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: a comedy, wasn't.
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: No photograph now that wasn't wow. I mean you'd have
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: to go back to like you can play that game, like, yeah.
• 38:31
  Speaker 7: One after another and it was like fun.
• 38:35
  Speaker 11: You bring that up a lot, because I feel like
• 38:37
  Speaker 11: that time movies and television, it just it was you
• 38:40
  Speaker 11: didn't have to think about it so hard, even so much,
• 38:43
  Speaker 11: right like, and they gave you a feeling and it
• 38:45
  Speaker 11: was different.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: It's something happened, and I don't know what happened. And
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: I like to talk to people like you t because
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: y'all wore those superstars in the nineties and early two thousands.
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: Black.
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: Everything that we talk about wanting in black cinema and
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: black film, it was there already, you know.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: And it's not like it wasn't doing numbers. The movies
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: was doing numbers.
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: Copedy show a different world, the number one, number two
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: show in the world.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: It's just like what happened?
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: That means Hollywood just be like, you know what, we
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: don't want to make no money with niggas.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Mmm.
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: You think about the guy and his name escapes me.
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: But Love Jones iconic, right, I mean it brings out
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: in the motion.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: When you hear it.
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: That director never had an opportunity to direct another feature again.
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: After Love Jones.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Jones?
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: Why or did or Witcher?
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah never?
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: You know, but other other directors can fail two, three,
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: four times and still get a budget. You know, they
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: they felt Love Jones didn't make enough money, so he
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: never got an opportunity. But look at the look at
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: the social impact it had on our culture. Matter never
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: directed another feature? So what projects allow y'all to scratch
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: versus just what feels safe?
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Well for me, this this one didn't, You know what
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: I mean?
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: I love playing like the quote unquote bad bad guy.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: As an actor, it's it's it's fun playing outside of
• 40:03
  Speaker 7: what you know people know you as, and and how
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: you're perceived. So so you know, situations which I might
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: not have been you know, given that opportunity.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Word not for us, You know what I mean? Yeah?
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: That was cool?
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: I mean as as a part of the casting process.
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: You know, not to name names, but that was that
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: was a conversation around today. Could he play this role?
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: Could he play a bad guy?
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Why not?
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: Like, why can't he have different versions of who he
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: is to show that diversity within himself?
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: Why not?
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Right? So?
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: But I mean what I would say, what what would
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: stretch me is a biopic. Yeah, I would love to
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: do a biopick on Fred Hammon. I would love it.
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: Like if Fred, if you're watching and listened, call us, Yeah,
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: I would He's just I mean, he's just iconic, and
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: it would say it was an uphill clon. So there's
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: a lot of stories within that story, you know that
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: that that that will bold well for you.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Know, consumer consumption.
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean he's right up there, right So,
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: but a bio pick would actually you know, how do
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: you make it factual but then also entertaining at the
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: same time, but not but not straying away to make
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: it too you know, fictional?
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: My last question to tell you, how do you hope
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: your career will be remembered, not just in terms of roles,
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: but in terms of like your impact on culture and
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: like your the next generation of acting.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: I'm trying to get to the point where I don't
• 41:36
  Speaker 7: care because that's the easiest for me. And if I
• 41:42
  Speaker 7: come from that standpoint, I don't have to worry about
• 41:45
  Speaker 7: controlling anything. So that's what works for me. I used
• 41:51
  Speaker 7: to hate the idea of getting old, and then people
• 41:54
  Speaker 7: used to say words like oh, legacy, and then that
• 41:58
  Speaker 7: started to make me feel good. But then I was realizing, Okay,
• 42:02
  Speaker 7: I'm still attached to what happens when those movies are out,
• 42:06
  Speaker 7: and then people stopped talking No, so let me just
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: try to be in the moment, do good work, be grateful,
• 42:14
  Speaker 7: and remember what I did. But just stay in the moment,
• 42:18
  Speaker 7: because that's all that I can really deal with.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:21
  Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I just want to say this. You don't
• 42:25
  Speaker 9: have any movies that you are casting for.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: I am you have a job a job.
• 42:31
  Speaker 8: I do have a job, but I want another one.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: When I tell you, you know.
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: That's actors come on and they'll say line, you know,
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: every every third line, line you never said, came.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: On set on time?
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: Yes on.
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: I don't know if she's on time here, but she's
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: she's so consistently on tim knew her lines. You know,
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: people they take their cues from the names on set.
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: So if she's coming in with a cloud overhead, the
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: whole set will have a cloud sun constantly shining.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: And she was pregnant. I know she was going that
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: first trimester. We didn't know it. She didn't show it.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: M constantly professional. Yeah, I don't have to worry about that.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: You know, you stay on speech, you know, jes get busy.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: Why does your tattoos say chocolate?
• 43:29
  Speaker 7: Me?
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: M looking at the question, not about my booty has
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: no because you're talking. I know. It's a book. I
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: wrote a book.
• 43:48
  Speaker 7: Self self esteem and young people being proud of how
• 43:53
  Speaker 7: they look at their chocolate.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Dope.
• 43:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I love that it's available now, not his chocolate.
• 44:09
  Speaker 8: Questions about.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Children's book, the children's book I need, Yeah, order.
• 44:16
  Speaker 11: It makes sense. I remember you having no conversations about
• 44:18
  Speaker 11: your son and people like that.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Whole another book. Yeah for him? Yeah, I love that alright.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: It embracing ourselves.
• 44:26
  Speaker 9: When are we releasing I'm sorry, we like, I'm for
• 44:29
  Speaker 9: your team.
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: When are you'll released in Another Man's Wife?
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Another.
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: It will either be late Q four so December, or
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: or early key one six, so over the next four months.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: Look out for absolutely, Thank you, brothers, for you, thank
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: you with the day, with the production teams.
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: So we don't forget.
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: That's a good question. So it's freely films. That that's
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: that's that's what I bring to the table.
• 45:08
  Speaker 12: And then and it's down deep right now, down deep productions. Yeah,
• 45:12
  Speaker 12: so we partner together and we'll figure it out.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: You have, let's figure out.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: His ass productions, y'all.
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: Man, None of this matters if you know people don't
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: go out there.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: And support staying for the people in the back.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: But also you.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Gotta make your way back up here when the movie
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: comes out, come back up talking about people understanding and
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: see it.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Thank y'all, thank you, absolutely appreciate you.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Troy J called Digs. It's the breakfast Club. Good morning
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: every day.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: I wait, click your ass up, the breakfast Club.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: You don't finish for y'all.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: Done,