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55KRC Wednesday Show - Jack Atherton, AFP, Massie, Judge Nap, Empower U · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Five oh five. I think about KRC, the talk station Wednesday.
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  Speaker 2: Will vation that's the way the news goes.
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  Speaker 1: It is, indeed that a happy Wednesday, t aroand Tim's
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  Speaker 1: right here, glad to be and hope you're huh well,
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  Speaker 1: at least in a good mood this morning. At least
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  Speaker 1: we're not at war. Bombs did not start dropping at
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  Speaker 1: eight pm yesterday. They got some resolution, at least temporary,
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  Speaker 1: a two week pause. Got any of the details on
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  Speaker 1: that a little bit, but I was happy. Honestly, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what this ultimately gonna mean, but when you're
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  Speaker 1: talking about destructive destruction of an entire civilization, of course
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  Speaker 1: this came up yesterday in the context you're talking about
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  Speaker 1: dropping nuclear weapons. Anyhow, No, that did not happen. In
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  Speaker 1: the market are very happy that it didn't happen. So uh,
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  Speaker 1: maybe a little relief at the palm coming your way.
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  Speaker 1: If we can keep this thing at at bay. Feel
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  Speaker 1: free to chime in. I love hearing from the listeners,
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  Speaker 1: especially in a five o'clock hour when I'm hardly awake.
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  Speaker 1: the content whatever you want, podcasts and discussions. You didn't
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  Speaker 1: get to hear. I hope you went to the Empower
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  Speaker 1: You semminar last night with Jerom Hudson on Hollywood. It's
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  Speaker 1: influence on how to fight back. Daniel Davis Deep Dive
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  Speaker 1: yesterday not a positive outlook on things in Iran. But
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  Speaker 1: basically my pointed question toward the end of it was
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  Speaker 1: because he's you can't get the straight of Ormuso. But
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  Speaker 1: I said, there's just too many miniature ships and drones
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  Speaker 1: and bombs that Iran still has there, all buried underneath.
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  Speaker 1: There's twenty five installations, he said, which we cannot possibly get.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know where Daniel Davis gets his information,
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  Speaker 1: but he's got some sources, so you know, all of
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  Speaker 1: these additional weapons that the Iranians have. So his conclusion
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  Speaker 1: is you won't be able to open the straight of
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  Speaker 1: horm Is even if you got all. I asked him
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  Speaker 1: if all the Arab nations in the region got together
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  Speaker 1: and said, you know what, we got to do something
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  Speaker 1: about these Iranians. If all the European countries that formerly
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  Speaker 1: were interested in helping us out, we have a defense
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  Speaker 1: agreement with the NATO. Country's big problem there. They don't
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  Speaker 1: want to help out. But if you could get them
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  Speaker 1: all together, since their interests are obviously more impacted than
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  Speaker 1: the United States, and to get all their fuel and
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  Speaker 1: their oil and everything else through that straight or at
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  Speaker 1: least a lot of it, if they got all got
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  Speaker 1: on the same page and wanted to stop the Iranians,
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  Speaker 1: could that help? You know, everybody getting together? His conclusion, No,
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  Speaker 1: So you draw yourn conclusions on that. But it's a
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  Speaker 1: I like having the sort of the voice of descent
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  Speaker 1: to at least paint a maybe a more realistic or
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  Speaker 1: at least a rational picture of the problems and the
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  Speaker 1: difficulties that this represents, the challenges that represents. But back
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  Speaker 1: to the agreement of course negotiated, it's Pakistan was helping
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  Speaker 1: facilitate this. So a lot of praise going for both
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  Speaker 1: sides of the ledger, the Pakistani Prime minister for helping
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  Speaker 1: well get these parties at the table to come up
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  Speaker 1: with some relief here. Trump said, the decision came after
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  Speaker 1: the leaders requested that the United States hold off on
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  Speaker 1: the destructive force being sent tonight to Iran, which, of
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  Speaker 1: course he said he was going to blow him off
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  Speaker 1: the face of the earth. President said the postponent of
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  Speaker 1: is subject to the Islamic Republic of Irana green too,
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  Speaker 1: in his words, the complete immediate and safe OVG industry
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  Speaker 1: before moves, which is apparently what they agreed to, subject
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  Speaker 1: to Iranian military coordination. There are a couple of question
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  Speaker 1: marks swirling around on this truth social posts from Trump yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: This will be this will be a double sided cease fire.
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  Speaker 1: The reason for doing so is that we have already
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  Speaker 1: met or exceeded all mility, very objectives, and are very
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  Speaker 1: far along with a definitive agreement concerning long term peace
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  Speaker 1: with Iran and peace in the Middle East. Wow, even
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  Speaker 1: more broadly than the peace with Iran whole Middle East.
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  Speaker 1: So the Supreme National Security Council of the Islamic Republic
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  Speaker 1: of Iran, they responded with their own statement, thanking again
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  Speaker 1: the Pakistanis and saying that you know the straight of
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  Speaker 1: horm moves and here's the Israel of the Iranian statement,
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  Speaker 1: will be possible safe passages through the Strait of Hormus
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  Speaker 1: will be possible via coordination with Iran's armed forces, with
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  Speaker 1: due consideration of technical limitations. Swirling amid a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of qualifier in there. Israel also supported suspending the bombing
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  Speaker 1: campaign in Iran, although the Iranians are responding by saying
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  Speaker 1: that includes Lebanon. In other words, the ceasefire applies in
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  Speaker 1: the in their minds. Based on statements released everywhere, some
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  Speaker 1: question mark wonder about whether israe has agreed to stop
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  Speaker 1: going after the terrorist in Lebanon. One more little wrinkle
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  Speaker 1: perhaps to be ironed out. And then behind the scenes,
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  Speaker 1: there's this ten point plan which Trump said they can
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  Speaker 1: work with. You know, we received this ten point plan
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  Speaker 1: and there are a lot of things in there that
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  Speaker 1: we can work with. What's in the ten point plan
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  Speaker 1: from the Iranians, though US must fundamentally commit to guaranteeing
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  Speaker 1: non aggression, so don't touch the Iranians period. And of stories,
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  Speaker 1: the way I read that continuation of Iran's control over
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  Speaker 1: the Strait of Hormuse, some observers have said, well, wait
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  Speaker 1: a second, Iran didn't really formally have control over the
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  Speaker 1: Strait of Hormuz until this military action was launched, well
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  Speaker 1: formal informal, who's got control of the Straight of Horror moves?
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  Speaker 1: Iran is right there, I mean, their country is right
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  Speaker 1: there on the water's edge. And that's the narrow little point,
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  Speaker 1: the Strait of Hormuz, which has become the focus of
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  Speaker 1: so much attention because it is a narrow little choke
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  Speaker 1: point through which all these ships go. Oh so, whether
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  Speaker 1: they formally had it or not, I think that's I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, a throwaway point. But they claim under this
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  Speaker 1: ten point plan, if it were accepted and it's not yet,
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  Speaker 1: that they would maintain control of the Straight of Horror moves.
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  Speaker 1: Now looking forward, does that provide anybody with a measure
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  Speaker 1: of comfort? I mean, if we all found out the
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  Speaker 1: world is so continue or so reliant upon this tiny strait,
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  Speaker 1: leaving it in the hands of the Iranians, is that
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  Speaker 1: a good idea? I don't know. Maybe the UN should
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  Speaker 1: come in. Well, I don't look to the UN. We tried.
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  Speaker 1: I was joking about that the other day. And yes,
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  Speaker 1: because of the veto power opening the Straight of Horror
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  Speaker 1: moves vetoed by China and Russia. Yeah, what a pointless
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  Speaker 1: organization that thing is number three, acceptance that Iran can
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  Speaker 1: a rich uranium for its nuclear program.
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  Speaker 3: Hmmm.
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  Speaker 1: That would be a direct opposition to pretty much the
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  Speaker 1: ultimate point Donald Trump wanted, which is ending completely and
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  Speaker 1: dismantling the entire nuclear program. A bit of a sticky
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  Speaker 1: wick at that one. Removal of all primary sanctions on Iran.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, they want their economy back. Removal of all
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  Speaker 1: secondary sanctions against foreign entities that do business with Iranian institutions.
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  Speaker 1: I think something could probably be agreed upon with insofar
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  Speaker 1: as sanctions go. I don't know. End of all United
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  Speaker 1: Security Council resolutions targeting Iran, end of all International Atomic
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  Speaker 1: Energy Agency resolutions on Iran's nuclear program, compensation payment to
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  Speaker 1: Iran for war damage. They want reparations, huh. Now, if
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  Speaker 1: history is a guide, like looking at, for example, World
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  Speaker 1: War two, if we bomb, if a country gets completely bombed,
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  Speaker 1: and they look at Germany, Nazi Germany, they lost. We
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  Speaker 1: bombed a living crop out of Germany. But what do
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  Speaker 1: we do after World War Two? We help rebuild it.
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  Speaker 1: So I think the Iranians, if they capitulated and rolled over,
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  Speaker 1: would probably benefit more from US and slash Western development,
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  Speaker 1: which would equal operations in the long run, because you know,
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  Speaker 1: if we went back in and rebuilt things like we
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  Speaker 1: did in World War Two, it'd probably be rebuilt to
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  Speaker 1: higher standards and be better for the Iranian people. But
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  Speaker 1: direct cash payments, didn't we get down that route with
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  Speaker 1: Barack Obama trying to deal with the Iranians. Yeah, let's
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  Speaker 1: give them one point seven billion dollars in cash. Whatever
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  Speaker 1: happened to that money probably landed in the hands of
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  Speaker 1: or otherwise serve the terrorist proxies that Iran has been
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  Speaker 1: funding well now for decades. Withdraw number nine, withdraw US
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  Speaker 1: combat forces from the region. Hmm. Now my non intervention
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  Speaker 1: is friends out there in the world say, yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we have too much military presence around the world. We
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  Speaker 1: have bases literally everywhere. This is really stretching us to
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  Speaker 1: our financial limits. Maybe that's why we they Donald Trump,
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  Speaker 1: what's a one point five trillion dollar annual expenditure for
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  Speaker 1: the military? I don't know that there it's practical to
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  Speaker 1: suggest we leave the entire region. And do you think
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  Speaker 1: we would? Yeah, bases all over the Middle East, some
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  Speaker 1: of which we're not even allowed to use. But finally,
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  Speaker 1: point number ten, cease fire on all fronts, including Israel's
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  Speaker 1: conflict with Hbola in Lebanon. And there is that one
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  Speaker 1: point right there which there is a again swirling question
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  Speaker 1: mark about whether or not this two week pause includes
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  Speaker 1: a pause on Israel and its activities in Lebanon. So
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  Speaker 1: that's about the size of it right now. State of flux. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: From a personal standpoint here, let me find my sphincter
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  Speaker 1: and come up with a conclusion. I'm happy that we're
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  Speaker 1: not trying to wipe and annihilate Iran off the face
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  Speaker 1: of the earth right now. Anyway, Oil prices, yes, we
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  Speaker 1: have some immediate response global markets. Oil prices dropped, Stocks
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  Speaker 1: in Agia surged as this announcement was released, and futures
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  Speaker 1: here in the the S and P five hundred and
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  Speaker 1: all those domestic indexes are all up. Price of Brent crude,
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  Speaker 1: described as the global benchmark for oil, fell thirteen percent
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  Speaker 1: after the ceasefire news was announced. Good West Texas intermediate
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  Speaker 1: crude dropped fifteen percent after the announcement. Good SMP futures
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  Speaker 1: up of several points. Stocks in Asia, which is heavily
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  Speaker 1: depend upon the Strait of Horror, moves big gains across
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  Speaker 1: the region. Ni K index rose five percent. Among other
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  Speaker 1: index indices that are up, South Korea is up six percent, Taiwan,
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  Speaker 1: Hong Kong, Mainland China all posting significant increases as well.
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  Speaker 1: So received in the financial markets as really good news.
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  Speaker 1: You've just bought maybe two weeks of stability. How do
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  Speaker 1: A happy one too, Probably a little bit earlier for
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  Speaker 1: folks that were at the Honor Fly yesterday to chime in.
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  Speaker 1: But if you're out there and you're awake, and you
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  Speaker 1: were there to see the welcome home ceremony at the
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  Speaker 1: Honor Fly, please feel free to call in here. I'd
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  Speaker 1: Dan Carroll called in yesterday along with a former trustee
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  Speaker 1: of Anderson Township, Drew Pappus and Cribbage Mike, all talking
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  Speaker 1: about the the sendoff of the group, and I just
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  Speaker 1: wanted to bring up Dan Carroll's going to be covering
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  Speaker 1: for me Monday Tuesday. I got a couple of cancer
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  Speaker 1: treatments tomorrow and Friday, and that is a way of
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  Speaker 1: knocking the wind out of my sales after a day
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  Speaker 1: or so. It's just really a weird, weird brain fog
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  Speaker 1: that takes over. So thank god Dan Carroll's going to
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  Speaker 1: be around Monday and Tuesday to cover things. So thank
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  Speaker 1: you Dan for doing that. As you regularly do, get
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  Speaker 1: a copy of Peter Brunt's book Behind the Line of Course,
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  Speaker 1: twenty fifth anniversary of the Downtown Riots and some real
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  Speaker 1: eye opening comments from Peter and Lord almighty, where in
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  Speaker 1: the hell was I when that was all going on?
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  Speaker 1: I was here. Initial reaction was, I don't even remember it,
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  Speaker 1: but man, some of the details that came out from
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  Speaker 1: Peter Bronce and it was a lot worse than I
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  Speaker 1: even I knew the riots took place, but a lot
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  Speaker 1: worse than I thought. If you didn't get a chance
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  Speaker 1: to hear Peter Bronce and what a wonderful guy he is,
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  Speaker 1: Back over to the UN, which I was joking about. Yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: Russia and China vetoed the Security Council resolution that would
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  Speaker 1: have reopened the strait of horror moves. Hey, here's an idea.
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  Speaker 1: Why don't we use the UN to bring about some
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  Speaker 1: peace and get commerce and industry flowing back and forth.
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  Speaker 1: That's what we're all about here at the UN. There's
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  Speaker 1: that pesky veto power. China and Russian saying no to
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  Speaker 1: that resolution got eleven votes in favor, two against a
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  Speaker 1: couple of abstensions Pakistan and Columbia. They stayed out of it.
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  Speaker 1: Usmbassador Mike Waltz after the vote, No one should tolerate
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  Speaker 1: that they are holding the global economy at gunpoint. But
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  Speaker 1: today Russia and China did tolerate. Decided with a dream,
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  Speaker 1: a dream, a legen rather that seeks to intimidate the
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  Speaker 1: Gulf into submission even as it brutalizes its own people
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  Speaker 1: during a national Internet blackout for daring to imagine dignity
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  Speaker 1: and freedom resolution introduced by bah Rain. Bahrain's foreign administry
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  Speaker 1: at this to say, failing to adopt the resolution sends
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  Speaker 1: the wrong signal to the world. Notice my emphasis on
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  Speaker 1: that to the people of the world, the signal that
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  Speaker 1: the threat to international waterways can pass without any decisive
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  Speaker 1: action by the international organization responsible for the maintenance of
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  Speaker 1: international peace and security. Yeah, it does send that message
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  Speaker 1: out to the world. My message, my reading of the
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  Speaker 1: message is what a waste of time the UN is.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a commented the other day, flip it around.
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  Speaker 1: Us has the veto power as well. If the entire
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  Speaker 1: world decided to vote and say that the United States
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  Speaker 1: had engaged in some sort of war crimes, had violated
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  Speaker 1: the Geneva Convention or anything like that, then we could
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  Speaker 1: go in and just veto it. I think just illustrates
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  Speaker 1: the stupidity of it. The resolution had strongly incuraged. It's
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  Speaker 1: even a soft resolution strongly encourages states interested in the
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  Speaker 1: use of commercial maritime roots in the Strait to coordinate
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  Speaker 1: efforts defensive in nature commensurate with the circumstances to contribute
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  Speaker 1: to ensuring the safety and security of navigation across the state,
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  Speaker 1: or moves that sounds like something will come out of
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  Speaker 1: a liberal arts psychobabble left wing college professor's mouth. The
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  Speaker 1: language itself was significantly weakened, as different drafts of the
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  Speaker 1: resolution went around the purpose to try to get Russia
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  Speaker 1: in China to abstain or even approve it. Of course
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  Speaker 1: that didn't happen. Initial proposer would have authorized countries to use,
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  Speaker 1: in the word of the original and all necessary means,
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  Speaker 1: which everyone said that, well, that's a military action. When
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  Speaker 1: that circular. When that one circulated, Russia and China and France,
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  Speaker 1: which also enjoys the veto power in the UN opposed
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  Speaker 1: it because it had use of force as a possibility
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  Speaker 1: in there. So they revised that eliminating all references to
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  Speaker 1: any offensive action, authorizing only all defensive means necessary. Instead,
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  Speaker 1: that resolution was even further weakend to eliminate any reference
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  Speaker 1: to Security Council authorization, which is in order for action,
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  Speaker 1: limiting the provisions to the Strait of Horne MOUs. Previous
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  Speaker 1: drafts had included the adjacent waters. How it is, I
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  Speaker 1: guess on that note is the Straight of Hormus itself
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  Speaker 1: very specifically geographically defined. So if they now limited to
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  Speaker 1: just the Straight of horn Moves, the Iranians obviously have
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  Speaker 1: coastal real estate all along the Gulf region itself, and
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  Speaker 1: the whole bunch of target sitting around waiting to get
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  Speaker 1: through the straight of horror moves? Does that mean they're
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  Speaker 1: free shots on goal since the resolution would have limited
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  Speaker 1: to the straight of horror moves. Of course, since the
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  Speaker 1: resolution got vetoed by China and Russia, we are now
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  Speaker 1: engaged in an academic dot conversation which should move away
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  Speaker 1: from this specific resolution and have an academic conversation about
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  Speaker 1: the point of the un generally speaking, five twenty five
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  Speaker 1: right now, if if you five KRC the talk station,
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  Speaker 1: feel free to call. Got local stories coming up, Jay's
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  Speaker 1: calling in right now. We'll get Jay's call and of
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  Speaker 1: course yours. If you want to chime in, feel free
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  Speaker 1: to do so.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be right back fifty five KRC, Hary Wednesday.
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  Speaker 1: Rest of the I mention I mentioned lineup this morning
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  Speaker 1: real quick for I jumping the phones Big Picture with
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  Speaker 1: Jack Aeddan, A History of Total War. That's seven oh
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  Speaker 1: five on a Wednesday, Every Wednesday appointment listening brilliant. He
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  Speaker 1: is Donovan and Neil Americans for Prosperity on early voting
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  Speaker 1: and primary endorsements, which yesterday we talked with Tom Zawistowski
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  Speaker 1: about that. Congressman Thomas Massey at eight oh five of
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  Speaker 1: course he'll be chiming into the war in Iran, whether
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  Speaker 1: the War Powers Act is involved here? What his position is?
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  Speaker 1: Pam Bondy and the changeover the Department of Justice That
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  Speaker 1: with Congress from Massey, follow by Judge Ennit of Paul
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  Speaker 1: Tano his column Killing and Indifference on a tear of
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  Speaker 1: Late with his columns. Let's go to the phones. Jay's first,
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  Speaker 1: Tom hang on, Jay, Welcome to the show. Thanks for
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  Speaker 1: calling in this morning.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, good morning, Brian. Hey want to encourage the listeners
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  Speaker 4: again like yesterday, get out to vote in the primary,
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  Speaker 4: because this is where your vote has most of the power.
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  Speaker 4: And when we say don't vote Rhino, don't vote Democrat,
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  Speaker 4: this is where we have a chance to get rid
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  Speaker 4: of our lords and masters, which is the Ohio Republican
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  Speaker 4: Central Committee, who hurts us like sheep. So if you're
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  Speaker 4: done being hearted like sheep, and if you're done with
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  Speaker 4: the wine and all of the Rhinos up in Columbus,
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  Speaker 4: here's your chance. And I'm going to highlight two real quick.
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  Speaker 4: One is Jane Schmidt, who was one of the Blue
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  Speaker 4: twenty two. She has a pretty conservative voting record, but
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  Speaker 4: if you can't trust her, district.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's sixty two. Yeah, District sixty two.
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  Speaker 4: If the first thing she's going to do is go
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  Speaker 4: cut a deal behind the back of Republicans on who
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  Speaker 4: the speaker is going to be and you don't have
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  Speaker 4: the wherewithal to argue and make your case, but you're
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  Speaker 4: going to go cut a deal with Democrats, then get out.
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  Speaker 4: So District sixty two we're counting on you.
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  Speaker 6: Get rid of her.
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  Speaker 4: And then Robert Prague. You had a nice interview with him,
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: and he bragged about the fiscal responsibility and how he's
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: got did such a fine job as treasurer, being a
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: good steward of Ohio's taxpayer resources, which is our money,
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: rebillion dollar Ranny Day Fund with the wine. Nobody knows
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: how he's going to spend that or what's that's for
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: six hundred million dollars to the Browns. And my favorite
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: is thirty five percent increase in medicaid over the past
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: five years with zero population growth and last in the
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: nation and a forty three point three percent improper payment rate,
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: worse than any other state. We're in a lot about
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: California and New York. We are last folks, and that
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: happened under Prague's watch, and to my knowledge, I don't
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: think he ever walked down the hallway to go talk
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: to Dave Yost and Dave Yosta never got off his
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: ass to go do anything law enforcement wise. These are
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: all the wine lap dogs. So Marcel Sturbich is our guy.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: Prague doesn't what says he's qualified after he's failed as
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: treasurer to walk into secretary of State. So here's our
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: chance to make a change. Whatever the Ohio Central Committee
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: Shepherd's trying to hurt us, Sheep, whatever they want us
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: to do, do the opposite.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Take your power back. That Central Committee.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: Only exists to take away your power and consolidated for themselves.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: So as my buddy Tom says, don't vote Rhino and
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: don't vote Democrat, have a good day, Brian, you.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Do the same day. Make informed decisions. I think that's
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: really the walk to take away from that one. Yeah,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: you have choices, and the primary is indeed extraordinarily important.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Got to make informed decisions, and that's quite often the
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: problem in all elections. You walk in and you take
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: the pink slip or the blue slip, and you immediately
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: vote for the candidates that are on the pink and
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: blue slip. And I understand for people who aren't really
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: politically informed that it's the easiest, safest bet. Well, you
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: know what, if you're a central committee approved them, then
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: they must be okay. And I think Jay's points a
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: valid one. That isn't always the case. I wouldn't reject
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: it out of hand all the time. Quite often there
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: are better choices than maybe what central committee decided. Tom.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Speaking of which, Tom, thanks good to hear from you today. Tom.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I hope you're having a good day. Welcome back.
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: Well, you know, so far, so good. But I mean
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: I've a'll leave it up for forty minutes or so.
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: It is shout out good morning to the prig of Toledo.
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: Another Brian, the one that spells his name with a
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: why so he says he spells it correctly, but I
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: don't know. I'll let you two argue about that. He
• 21:03
  Speaker 7: says he's going to call in one of these days,
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: so he likes to talk, so I just don't understand
• 21:09
  Speaker 7: why he's not calling it. Call in, Brian. Everyone, everyone can,
• 21:13
  Speaker 7: everyone can hear you as as I drive down the road.
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: I'm just waiting to see those das prices just drop.
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: Oil.
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: I'm sure, and you second, now I can sit here
• 21:26
  Speaker 7: and watch it. No, no, not happening.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: No, not only instantaneous price of gas. Lad only happens
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: when the price of crude goes up. When it comes
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: down to wait six eight months for it, it'll finally
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: drop that. I did pay five bucks a gallon the
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: other day for premium.
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: It was yeah, oh you're a year. That's right, you're
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: putting premium in that thing.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: So I have.
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: And obviously the price of diesel is the one that
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: we're we really got to keep an eye for because
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: that affects everything. And it's like any excuse they can
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: to put that put that sucker to five by the gallon?
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: Is is they seem to take a chance, jump at
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: any chance to do that. So of course they're out,
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: they're out trying to make money, but man, it seems like,
• 22:09
  Speaker 7: come on, you know, you don't need to gouge us
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: this much. So hopefully this whole thing that that that's
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: happening now will will help bring some relief in that department.
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: So I do I do want to piggyback on what
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: Jay is saying. It is an extremely important time and
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: in some cases more important than the general election, because
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: I mean, when you get to the general election, I
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: can't do anything but say don't vote Democrat. But right
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: now we've got to get the right candidates in there.
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: And so yes to your point being formed, pay attention
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: to what's going on. Look things up. It doesn't take
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: very long.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: People.
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: You know, you got your phone in your hand, or
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: you're sitting down at your tablet or laptop or whatever.
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: Just just put a few things in there. Look some
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: things up. You can find out information about candidates and
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: who's running. Of course, you know, you can't vote for
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: somebody who isn't running. So hopefully we've got people running
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: that that are that are going to go along with
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: our values. But yeah, you got to do a little
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: bit of research. Doesn't take a lot of time. Uh,
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: you know, the time it takes you to get through
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: one of your twenty of your little games that you
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: like to play. You can actually do something that will
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: directly affect your life and change maybe how how much
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: taxes are being taken out or how much of your
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: money is being spent on whatever and and all that.
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: So please do some research, Please look things up, and
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: it's only going to help you out and and you know,
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: might even help your neighbors out. And of course I'll
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: echo what what Jay said. Don't vote Rhino and absolutely
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: don't vote Democrat. Have a great day, you do.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: The same time. Good to hear from you. Five thirty
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  Speaker 1: Brian up in Toledo five hundred seven two three talk
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  Speaker 1: stack is stupid right in front of me. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: to that. Have some phone calls after these brief words.
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  Speaker 8: Fifty five KOs the talk station.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Five forty if you have KRC, he talks todaysan Happy Wednesday,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Good Wednesday, Big Picture with Jack Evid and Donovan O'Neill
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: on the primary Congressman Thomas Massey and eight followed by
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Judge Jennita Paul time, I love that hour five and three, seven,
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  Speaker 1: four nine, fifty, five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: to three talk before you get to the stack of stupid,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: let's talk to Steve. Steve, welcome to the show man.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Thanks for calling.
• 24:27
  Speaker 9: Yes, sir, this.
• 24:28
  Speaker 10: Could fit into the stack of stupid. But I could
• 24:31
  Speaker 10: wish you a belated happy Ish tar. But then I
• 24:36
  Speaker 10: would do a public service announcement and say, you really
• 24:39
  Speaker 10: want to listen to more than twenty minutes or so
• 24:41
  Speaker 10: of your show. If you want to get the big picture,
• 24:44
  Speaker 10: you might want to listen to it. I'm worried about Tom,
• 24:46
  Speaker 10: who might only listen to the first half hour, and
• 24:49
  Speaker 10: he may be stepping in at wishing people a happy
• 24:52
  Speaker 10: Ish tar or something. But we all step in it sometimes.
• 24:56
  Speaker 10: And I've actually got a it's time to five to
• 25:00
  Speaker 10: file our taxes. I stepped in it myself February thirteenth
• 25:05
  Speaker 10: of this year. I'm reaching out to the listening audience.
• 25:09
  Speaker 10: There's got to be somebody. Everybody's an expert in something.
• 25:14
  Speaker 10: Since nineteen seventy nine, I filed my federal taxes by
• 25:18
  Speaker 10: mailing them in, which was the only option. I did
• 25:20
  Speaker 10: it again this year on February thirteenth. Apparently, and this
• 25:25
  Speaker 10: is ai hell. I'm going through trying to get somebody
• 25:30
  Speaker 10: I can speak to at the IRS. So I'm reaching
• 25:32
  Speaker 10: out to anybody that works for the IRS, that used
• 25:36
  Speaker 10: to that knows what's going on. They have not apparently
• 25:40
  Speaker 10: they have not received my return my question is, and
• 25:47
  Speaker 10: I mean, you have no idea what it's like when
• 25:50
  Speaker 10: you get a there's a phone number. You just can't
• 25:52
  Speaker 10: talk to anybody and they won't transfer your call unless
• 25:56
  Speaker 10: you tell them specifically what it's about, which I do,
• 25:59
  Speaker 10: and they keep asking me. I'm not telling them what
• 26:03
  Speaker 10: they want me to tell them. They've got their little
• 26:06
  Speaker 10: set pattern.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:07
  Speaker 10: My question is should I mail in my return a
• 26:12
  Speaker 10: second time with a cover letter saying you apparently haven't
• 26:16
  Speaker 10: received it. Here's my return. And I can't get that
• 26:20
  Speaker 10: question answered. So if anybody in your audience knows what
• 26:25
  Speaker 10: somebody a dinosaur that still mails in a paper return,
• 26:29
  Speaker 10: what they should do if the return is apparent now
• 26:33
  Speaker 10: maybe it's been received and they just haven't scanned it.
• 26:36
  Speaker 10: It's on the box.
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: I mean, I have no idea.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Just the bottom line is you don't know, and there's
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: no one you can reach you. The irs they can
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: answer the question.
• 26:43
  Speaker 10: So thingo. So hopefully somebody out there can call up
• 26:46
  Speaker 10: in the next hour or two and help me out.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Is there an account in the listening audience and knows
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: the answer to Steve's question. We'll keep my fingers crossed
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: and someone does come to your rescue, Steven. I don't know.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I guess you could just go ahead and file electronically,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: even though you're you are a DYNA sort that follows
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: it in by mail. I don't know though, but maybe
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: putting a return receipt requested on it is the best
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: way to mail it in, so at least you get
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: some form of physical documentation that landed in their lap.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Don't know. Let's see what Patrick's got this morning. Patrick,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Welcome to The Morning Show. Thanks for calling in.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Hey, good morning, Brian. Well, first off, I just wanted
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: to tell you that I hope everything goes well with
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: your treatments, my friend, because as the listening audience, we
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: really really enjoy hearing you and all the subjects that
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: you speak about. You're very, very informative.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I'll find out actually today's the day
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: I get my follow up CT scan. It's been six months,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: so I'll have some idea of whether or not that
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: the treatments are having any impact at all. And I'm
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: a little more concerned about that than anything else. But
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I you know, this is I'll die with it, not
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: from it kind of reality, at least from what I've
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: been told. Although the landscape can always change. Cancer sucks,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: and there's always an ever moving landscape. But your kind
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: words are truly appreciated.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Well, the reason that I called is I had kind
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: of a peculiar story to share with you, and you're
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: the listening audience. So I live up north in a
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: pretty much a farming community, and I was headed down
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: thirty five towards West Alexandria and a turkey was in
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: the middle of the road. Well, I couldn't avoid the turkey,
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: and I ended up hitting this thing and it flew
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: up over my car. Well, as luck would have it,
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: the car behind me was a cop. So the cop
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: pulled me over and the officer sided me for flipping
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: him to burn. So have a good day, Brian. I'll
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: let you ponder.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: All that for that you took us down that road. Patrick, Okay,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Well I will give him a pass. It's a five
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: o'clock hour, and you know I'm still trying to wake
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: up many people are at this time of day. Five
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: three seven two three.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Talk.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Now, we got a chicken shop worker having a problem
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: with the garlic sauce. There's a stack of stupid store.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: We can get it to r out of the gate
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: coming back and that'll be fine. Don't go away. Fifty
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: five KRC.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: I'm Laurie Siegel and this is a.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Talk station five forty nine. If you have kcity talk
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: station stack and stupid. We start in the United Kingdom.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Mar One Kadir, who's eighteen years old, threatened to shoot
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: and kill a chicken shop worker and assaulted him multiple
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: times what is described as a brutal armed attack, lasting
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: for several minutes. This happened Christmas Eve last year. Close
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: camera footage provided a prior to the assault shows Kadeer
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: arguing with the shop worker about how many garlic sauces
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: he ordered, and then complained that they had in included
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: any chips with his order already there Joe. After what
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: appeared to be a resolution of the issue, the teenager
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: walked back to his apartment, where he found out that
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: his order was not made to his satisfaction. That's when
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: he armed himself off with a fake gun, storm back
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: to the chicken shop and asked the staff member quote
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Or said of the step, I asked for three garlic
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: and three mayos, So why are you giving me for
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: burger sauce? Then?
• 30:13
  Speaker 11: What?
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Leaping onto the counter cocked the weapon, grabbed the terrified
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: workers risks, saying I'm going to kill you now, are
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: you mad? He was later arrested by police. Armed police
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks later, they took I guess to fight,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: and they put recreated the evidence with the closed camera
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: video footage which very clearly shows this guy and everything
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: that he did, and they also have a body camera
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: footage showing the art. They keep referring to the police
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: officers as armed because you're in the United Kingdom, so
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: being armed, I guess is really not the norm anywhere. Anyway,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: they stormed his home that kicked in his door, shouting,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: armed police, come to your front door, hands over your head.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: He did come out with his hands on his head.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Then the govern of the officers recovered the fake pistol,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: finding hidden behind a bedside cabinet. He admitted to possessing
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: the imitation firearm with the intent to cause fear of violence,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: making threats to kill, an assaulting occasioning actual bodily harm.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Jailed over garlic sauce for three years. Idiots doing idiot
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: things because they're idiots.
• 31:21
  Speaker 9: Wow.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Social media sucks and people who react in this way
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: are the worst form of humanity humans well right behind pedophiles.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: I suppose thirty three ye old woman in Massachusetts is
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: going to be in jail up to twenty years why
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: she killed a twenty one year old mother that she
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: had been feuding with on social media by stabbing her
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: repeatedly in the head and face. Associate spirit Judge Mary
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: kay Ames ordered Alyssa Parks to serve fifteen to twenty
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: years in the state correctional facility for this incident, which
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: happened in twenty twenty three the slaying of jazz Rihanna
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Shepherd Gonzales. She initially had been charged with second degree
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: murder over the fatal encounter, but she agreed to plead
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: guilty demandslaughter, resulting in the fifteen to twenty years sentences
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Court of the Press Relief in the Boston Police Department,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: officers responded to the area on Tremont's Street about almost
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: midnight regarding reports of a stabbing. They got their first
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: responders found Shepherd suffering from life threatening stab wounds. Emergency
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: personnel transported her local hospital, where she succumbed to her wounds.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Earlier in the evening, Shepherd had been with a friend
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: in Boston Commons, they headed for Park Street Station, the
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: bus station there. Prosecutors said violence was preceded by a
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: series of hostile online exchanges between Parts and Shepherds, during
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: which Parts allegedly threatened the younger woman and attempted to
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: lure her into a physical altercation.
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: Dear.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Both witness testimony documentary evidence indicated that prior to July twentieth,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Shepherd and Parts engaged in these social media exchanges. Parts
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: threatened Shepherd, seeking to entice her to fight. As Shepherd
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: approached the station pavilion, Parts confronted her with a knife.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: It's all on surveillance. Footage, of course, shows the two
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: fighting and shows Parts stabbing Shepherd several times in the face.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Had in torso, of course, she then fled the scene.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: According to the Suffol County District Attorney, Kevin Hayden state
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: in the audience, he said it was the killing was
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: a senseless, impossible to understand moment of violence, praising the victims'
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: family members for their in court statements about the devastation
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: that they suffered as a consequence of her murder and
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: their heart rendering expressions of love and their loss. Fifteen
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: to twenty just walk away, okay. Fifty four year old
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: teacher aid teacher aide Michigan accused of slamming a thirteen
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: year old special needs A student into a classroom window,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: then telling her coworkers the child her words, we may
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: have an award to give out here. Joe Robin Popoor
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: A charged with one kind of third degree child abuse
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: in connection with the incident, happened December last year seventeenth,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: specifically near the end of the day at the Learning Center.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Not The Leering Center serves students with moderate to severe impairments.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Three aids witnessed the incident, described as similar sequence of
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: events involving this poper a woman of the teenage boy,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: described as being mostly nonverbal and development developmentally closer to
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: a five year old. One aide said the child was
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: exhibiting repetitive behavior and making pinching motions toward Popoor, who
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: allegedly threatened to slap the student. Had said after the altercation,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: they heard her make alarming remarks quote, I don't give
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: a F word if I left marks on him. I
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: don't care if I got him. He deserved it close quote.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: The aides who witnessed it found an incident report with
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: the school in the following day reporting. The also reportedly
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: emphasized that Poper had previously made troubling comments of the victim.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Robin has said many times throughout the years, she does
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: not like him, has no use for him, and if
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: he ever touches her, she will lose her job and
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: hit him back, one statement from one of the witnesses.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Following a preliminary hearing, the judge found there was sufficient
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: evidence for the case to proceed the circuit court. Not
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: immediately clear when Poper was scheduled to make her next
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: court appearance, facing a maximum sentence of up to two
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: years in prison. PERI is the biggest douche of the universe,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: in all the galaxies. There's no bigger douche than you.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: You've reached the top, the pinnacle of doue doom.
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  Speaker 2: Good going, dou Your dreams have come true.
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  Speaker 12: just Struckger as executive producer of the program, because without
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  Speaker 12: him there wouldn't be a show, including the guests joining
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  Speaker 12: the fifty five KRC Morning Show today which I always
• 36:20
  Speaker 12: love talking to Jack Atherden that's at seven oh five,
• 36:23
  Speaker 12: one hour from now with a Big Picture. Today, Jack
• 36:25
  Speaker 12: will be diving into a history of total war.
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  Speaker 1: You know that's going to be brilliant because it always
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: is when Jack's talking. So Donald dan Neil after Jack Atherton,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Donald Neil from Americans for Prosperity with his senior advisor
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: of AFP Action hat on early voting in Ohio. Yes,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: it's going on right now, and of course he's going
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: to be talking about the primary endorsements. Lit'll chime in
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: or last hour from caller Jay, who is encouraging people
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: to make very informed decisions, don't just follow what the
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Central Committee has to say. And I would agree with him,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: you know, conceptually on that. But maybe they did, you know,
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  Speaker 1: endorse some good candidates. Maybe they didn't. The only way
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: you're going to know is if you look into the
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: candidates themselves and decide for yourself who's the best person
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: for the job, and always when you're doing that, consider
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: that person and who they are going to be running against.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: On the Democrat side of the Ledger got some name
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: recognition issues and a lot of uninformed voters who tend
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: to gravitate toward names they recognize, which of course happens
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: in the primary as well. I think that was the
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: warning Jay was passing along to folks, and I kind
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: of agree with them on that make informed decisions. But
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: if we all, if we were all better students of politics,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: I don't think we'd find ourselves in the Charlie Fox
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: trout reality of where we are in this country. Congressman
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Thomas Massey, he gets it. He'll be on at eighth
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: five talking about the war in Iran as well as
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: the Pam Bondi change over the Department of Justice. Judge
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Annotopolitano his column Killing and Indifference. That'll be at eight thirty.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: You can call love to hear from you five one, three, seven, four,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: nine fifty five, eight hundred eighty two three talk. And
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: I'm really really interested if anybody is awake that actually
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: attended the honor flight last night for the welcome home ceremony.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: I'd love to hear you chime in on how well
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: that went. They always go well, at least that's so
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: far back in a thousand on that. So hopefully it
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: was a wonderful event last night, as they typically are.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Let us go okay, So briefly here going back to
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: the progress that was made. At least we're not dropping
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: bombs this morning if you're just waking up. There was
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: an agreement reached yesterday for a two week pause the complete,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: immediate and safe opening of the Strait of horror moves
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: is what Trump said was the predicate behind a green
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: to enter into a ceasefire with the Iranians, negotiated by
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: the Pakistani folks. So there's some swirling crush marks, like
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Israel also agreed to suspend to his suspend its bombing campaign.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: But is it just related to Iran or will they
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: also stop bombing Lebanon and the terrorist groups are going
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: after there? I don't think they've ironed out that detail,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: because there seems to be again question marks running that
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: little sub point, but open I guess it will be.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: The Iranians claim that their military has to be coordinating
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: with the traffic flowing through the strait of horror moves.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Devil quite typically is in the details, again poking fun
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: at the UN. They tried to open up the straight
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: of Horn moves with this really truly watered down UN resolution,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: and of course, having the veto power they do. Russian
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: and China vetoed it. I pointed out last hour. I
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: just think this further illustrates the pointlessness of being in
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: the UN. It doesn't ever accomplish anything. France, even Vitar
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: was against the original proposal, which is a little stronger. Again,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: watered it down a couple of times, brought it up
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: for a vote, and of course it was vetoed. So yeah,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I know, but what of And I think Congress from
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: mass you'll probably like to talk about this because some
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: of the Republicans, and I know Thomas Massey has argued
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: about the legality of this war. We've got the whole
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: idea of declaration of wars power rests with Congress, some
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: arguing that the War Powers Act of nineteen seventy three
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: is in and of itself on constitutional I think MASSI
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: would agree with that. I know Judgmentpolotanus chimed in on
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: that you can't delegate specifically allocated authority. Congress has the
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: power of war. You can't pass it off and delegate
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: it to the executive branch. I will agree and point
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: out that there's never been a legal challenge to the
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: War Powers Act. So the Congress has one of two options.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Of course, that's a declaration of war or an authorization
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: for use of military force. There have been some authorizations
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: for use of military force circulated, they've been shot down,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: so we have neither a declaration of war nor an
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: authorization a use of military force. But is the War
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Powers Act? Has it been well? Has the clock started?
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: I guess that can characterize it that way, and some
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Republican lawmakers, yes, say absolutely it has. And it's not
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: just massy. So federal law requires the President to seek
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: approval from Congress of military operations in Irani going to
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: last longer than sixty days. With that thirty day extension,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: that's basically what the seventy three War Powers Act says,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: you notify Congress within forty eight hours of deploying troops.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: That clearly, I think everyone can agree that was done.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Some are a little myth that Donald Trump didn't consult
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: with the Gang of Eight or otherwise let Congress ahead
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: of time. He's got some problems with leaks to the press,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: and the last thing you want is your military foe
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: to know ahead of time because somebody leaked it to
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: the press that you're getting ready to launch a military operation.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: In any event, he's got forty eight hours of after
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: deploying to notify Congress. I think he did. Look, we're
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: bombing Iran. Isn't that notice enough? So after sixty days,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: the military operations have to stop unless Congress votes to
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: declare war passes an authorization for you some military force.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: The clock is running if you want to say this
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: actually applies, and that sixty day period I think expires
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: some time in April. Given the moment in time when
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: we started bombing Iran. That period, of course, can be
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: extended thirty days if the President says tells Congress in
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: writing that I need the troops to stay there. We
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: can't safely withdraw them. So you know that's already baked
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: into the case. So let's just call it ninety days.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Senator John Curtis, Republican of Utah, last week mentioned the
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: War Powers Act explained that he would not support military
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: operations in Iran beyond the sixty day window absent congressional approval.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Senator Curtis later added that he also wouldn't support funding
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: for military operations in Iran again unless Congress formally declares war.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: He said, I stand by the president's action to take
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: in defense of our national security interest in the least,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: but we must be clear eyed about history and the constitution.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Trump claims the Warpowers Act is unconstitutional, along the lines of,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: you know what I said, unconstitutional delegation of power. But
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: he originally was dancing around whether or not he would
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: use the word war when talking about Iran. I think
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: he woulded to kind of referred to it as a
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: police action, but he has since said he has since
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: used the word war multiple times, so he is disregarded
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: the whole concept of the War Powers Act anyway. On Sunday,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Representative Mike Lawler, Republican from New York, said he believes
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: the Trump administration followed the law when it notified Congress
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: about the within forty eight hours of the strikes, disputing
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: the argument made by Democrats and a few Republicans that
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: the operations so far have been illegal because there has
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: been no declaration of war and no authorization for use
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: of military force. Yes, but he said, look as this
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: moves forward, if it goes beyond the sixteen to ninety
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: day window, then yes, Congress will need to take necessary action,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: and I would support that. What if Congress doesn't take
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: any action? What if the War Powers resolution that is
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: advanced would, in whatever form, is shot down like the
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: other ones that have been advanced and shot down. Where
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: does that leave us? I think it's an interesting quandary,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: isn't it. You have an authorized force and you haven't
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: declared war, so the War Powers Act has no teeth.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: And what comes next? I guess you continue waging war?
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: It constitutional crisis perhaps.
• 44:05
  Speaker 11: So.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: There have been votes and defeated votes on resolutions which
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: would have been essentially authorization from you some military force.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: March twenty fourth, authorization from you some military force offered
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: by Senator Murphey, Democrat, blocked party lines, mostly although Senator
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Ran Paul did a vote against it. You had John
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Fetterman or voted for it and Fetterman voting against it.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Republican Tom tillis previously quoted as saying clock starts ticking.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: After sixty days, you're supposed to start exiting. So they
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: should be mindful of that because I'm going to read
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: the plane letter of the War Powers Resolution. If we
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: get into that window, we've got to think differently. Josh Hawley,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Republican Senator, said in March that there would come a
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: point after sixty to ninety days, or if ground troops
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: were deployed, when Trump would need to request authorization from Congress.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: So there's quite a few you know, Republicans out there
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: at least bringing this up. What of the War Powers Act,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: There's not going to be a declaration of war, I
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: can assure you, yeah, you got to go back to
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: World War Two to find one of those. But then
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: also look at the history of the Vietnam War. Never
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: ever was there an authorization from US military force. Of course,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: that's why the seventy three War Powers Act was passed
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: over Nixon's veto. We ended up in a conflict where
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: almost sixty thousand American lives were lost and not once
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: was this war authorized. Now once and going back to
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: the history of that one, how did that one start?
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: You know, because you can draw some parallels to the
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: situation in Iran starts with advisors on the ground. Oh,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: there's only one hundred and fifty US advisors there. They're
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: just helping the South Vietnamese government get their act together
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: and fight off those evil forces, the communists pouring into
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: the country. And slowly, over time and surely over time,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: tens of thousands and hundreds of thousands of American soldiers
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: ended up fighting a war in Vietnam, and at no
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: time Congress even say a word, although notably they continued
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: funding it. Remember Donald Trump's asking for one point five
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: trillion for military funding. The talk station six Wednesday and
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: a happy one to five three seven eight hundred and
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• 46:20
  Speaker 1: funds real quick. Before I get to Bill, Steve had
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: called early with the IRS problem. He mailed in his
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: return and apparently it's missing an action. Can't get in
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: touch with anybody at the IRS to answer his question,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: did you even receive it? Eric chimed in on that one, Steve,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: and uh, well, it may be a problem because you
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: don't like technology, he said, I understand why a guy
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: who mailed his refund is having some issues. And here's
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Eric's issue. Logging into the IRS website required me, and
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: this is scary to use facial recognition scanning my face
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: with my phone. So a ludite jokingly referring to you, Steve,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: who still mails his refunds, might not have to want
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: to use facial recognition, he said. He qualified then and
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: said I'm not using ludite as a pejorative, just as
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: a descriptor. Yeah, okay, you can try to backpell yourself
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: out of that. Eric anyway. Yeah, I don't dig the
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: concept of facial recognition over my cell phone in working
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: with the I R S, nobody else in government. So anyhow,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: let's see what Bill's gott Bill, thanks for indulging me
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: on that one. Welcome to the show, and thanks for holding.
• 47:22
  Speaker 13: Hey, not a problem, not a problem.
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: Hey.
• 47:24
  Speaker 14: I love the history that you re teach us again,
• 47:27
  Speaker 14: especially about nixteen and all this stuff and how things happen.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: So I love listening to your show.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: For that, right, Thanks man.
• 47:35
  Speaker 9: I agree.
• 47:35
  Speaker 14: But as far as the Union, what.
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: Is it called?
• 47:42
  Speaker 14: Uh?
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Which one?
• 47:46
  Speaker 14: The one up there in New York? You were a plank?
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 47:51
  Speaker 14: I think they should move to Palestine. I think the
• 47:55
  Speaker 14: uh not what they called.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: The oh, the United Nations yeah, oh you said, you
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: said the Union, And I'm thinking, okay, if you're talking
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: about New York, let's let us go through the thousands
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: of possible unions you're referring to. Anyway, the US, the.
• 48:15
  Speaker 14: UN, I think they should have to move from New York.
• 48:18
  Speaker 14: I'm tired of being there and having all their stuff
• 48:21
  Speaker 14: that they do there and and get away with all
• 48:24
  Speaker 14: kinds of stuff. I think they need to be in
• 48:26
  Speaker 14: the in the place where they could do the most
• 48:30
  Speaker 14: and the best possible situation and put them in Palestine.
• 48:35
  Speaker 14: First building film it should be the UN building.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: I have no problem with that, although you know, I'm
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: someone who just views the entire UN process as a
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: complete exercise and waste of time, exercise of futility. We
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: spend more money than anybody else to keep that thing afloat.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: And the only conclusion I've drawn over the years, and
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: maybe I'm right, maybe I'm wrong, it's me just guessing
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: because they do so little and are a bunch of
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: thumb twiddlers for the most part, is just that provides
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: a convene opportunity for espionage every single country, basically in
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: one big building with a bunch of spies floating around it.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: It sort of keeping tabs on each other and listening
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: to each other's conversations. I don't know. Maybe it's worth
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: the expenditure of capital that we have put in toward it.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Maybe not. I don't know. But you think of all
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: of the problems in the world that you'd think the
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: UN would have a solution for, like genocide and Rwanda.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: I believe that was under the Clinton administration, hundreds of
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: thousands of people slaughtered. I mean, not exactly an economic
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: chokehold thing like the Strait of Horn moves, which is
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: literally impacting the entire world. We're talking about people in
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: an isolated region of the world getting slaughtered to death.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, why wouldn't the UN go in and use
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: its powers to stop something like that from happening. I
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: don't remember them doing anything. They just like to sit
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: around an harumph a lot from what I have seen
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: over the course of my life. Anyway, Well, it's time
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: to question these long standing institutions, and of course we've
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: already talked about it here in the Morning show. A
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: lot of people still talking about how worthwhile it is
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: to remain in NATO. It was a recent poll over
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: that more Republicans think it's an exercise in futility or
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: waste of time that we're not getting a return on
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: our sizable investment for NATO country since we have been
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: providing them with security for decades now, allowing them not
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: to spend their own money on their own militaries because
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: we've taken the role on for them. And then it
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: comes to pass, as we all know here, when we
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: need some help. And I know NATO wasn't consulted before
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: US started dropping bombs on the Iranians, But who's been
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: more impacted by this conflict than anybody that our friends
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: in NATO at least largely impacted for obvious reasons, energy,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: fertilizer and everything else that goes through the straits that
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: the other rest of the world relies on. So yeah,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: when it comes time to talk about this, when it
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: comes time to really needing some assistance, they're not there.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: And the broader point backing up from this conflict where
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: we see in real time that they are not there,
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: what could they do? Anyway? This goes back to Trump
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: support about you guys have to start poning up and
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: creating your own military forces because we're not getting a
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: return on investment. Sure, we'll be there to help you.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: We got a defense agreement mutual. What about us if
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: we start getting attacked? Where are you? And Eve? Even
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: if you've raised your hand and said yes, I will
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: help defend you, how could you ever changing landscape? Hey,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: this is not post World War two world The Soviet
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: Union isn't there anymore. We need to have a redefined,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: a redefinition moment, a new mission strategy for what NATO
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: is supposed to accomplish or do, or come to the
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: realization that maybe it's a pointless gesture to even be
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: involved in it, considering the lack of assistant six twenty
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• 52:02
  Speaker 1: going back to the IRS thing, Joe, except not Joe Strecker,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Joe W I will no one to give his full name,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: but he's trying to help out Steve who called earlier
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: at sending his tax return by mail in February and
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: has not heard a word, doesn't know if they received.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: They can't get any information from the IRS. If you
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: find yourself in a similar situation. Here's what Joe had
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: to say. He gets a grain of salt here a
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: qualifier as a prior IRS worker, Do not mail a
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: second return, he said, that will likely be considered a
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: second return and will not be fun for anyone, so
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: they will think you have had two people mail in
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: a separate individual return, not the same one over again. Anyway,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: everything on your first return will be double, as you'll
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: be following two tax returns. At least it would be.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: In my section of the IRS, this is where he worked.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Gave the phone numbers for IRS seven am to seven
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: pm local. Calling at seven am or close to seven
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: pm is the best time. It's easy to get in,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: he says in his experience. Also taxpayer advocate service eight
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: seven seven seven seven seven four seven seven eight. You
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: can do a web search for that taxpayer advocate service.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: He says, take the bulb with the grain of salt.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: He worked the last work at the IRS in twenty
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: twenty two. And Joe, good luck with your struggles with cancer.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: We all know cancer sucks, so that was part in
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: there too. But anyway, maybe a little advice that might
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: help Steve or anybody else finds himself in a similar situation.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: It is tax season. Two Sinni police officers and a
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: civilian taking to hospitals happened Saturday night after a dog
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: attack in Hyde Park. Vista Avenue is where it occurred
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: about ten pm. Since a fire department showed up. Dispatcher
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  Speaker 1: had mistaken the call for an assault based on yelling.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: According to Fox nineteen's recording. Firefighters got there, they found
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  Speaker 1: an officer restraining the dog from the victim. Firefighters told
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  Speaker 1: to check on the victim who'd been mauled, dog broke
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  Speaker 1: free from the officer and then began attacking others. Both
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: officers and the dog's owners dained injuries. Sever to the
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  Speaker 1: injuries not quite clear now since any animal care were
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  Speaker 1: contacted by the district for police they got there, the
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  Speaker 1: dog was already dead. The dog brought to the facilities
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: by dog Warden's remains have been sent for testing, apparently
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: that standard procedure. I guess probably looking for rabies. Since
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  Speaker 1: at police haven't released additional information about the condition of
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  Speaker 1: the officers, at least as the reporting from this morning,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: so I'm trying to pick one here. Oh, how about
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  Speaker 1: this one? Since a man sentenced to life without parole
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: happened yesterday the shooting and killing of a man he
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: was getting while he was getting a haircut. October of
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  Speaker 1: twenty four since a police found twenty five year old
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  Speaker 1: Joshua Sherman shot inside his East Priced home. He later
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: died at the hospital. Police said Sherman was getting his
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  Speaker 1: haircut in his home when Duyne Ferguson shot him in
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  Speaker 1: the back of the head. Found guilty of Sherman's murder
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  Speaker 1: in March. During yesterday's sentencing hearing, Hamilton County Judge Jody Lubers,
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  Speaker 1: in an effort to try to make sense of what happened,
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  Speaker 1: this crime is so senseless, she said. A young man's
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  Speaker 1: life has taken for what loss of Joshua left. The
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  Speaker 1: permanent void in our family, said to his aunt Ramona Sherman,
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  Speaker 1: speaking at the hearing for sentencing. Ferguson has a lengthy
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  Speaker 1: criminal record, including convictions for aggravator robbery, served a twenty
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  Speaker 1: year prison sentence and had only been out of prison
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  Speaker 1: ready eleven days when he killed Sherman. Judge Lubers, you
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  Speaker 1: get out and you're out for eleven days, and this
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  Speaker 1: happens It's so terribly sad, she said. Ferguson also spoke
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  Speaker 1: during a sentencing apologizing to Sherman family for their loss,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: claiming he didn't know Sherman and maintained his innocence. His
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  Speaker 1: attorney said he was sexually abused by his siblings at
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  Speaker 1: a young age. Okay, I'm sorry, I'm trying to struggle
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  Speaker 1: to translate how sexual abuse by siblings at a young
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  Speaker 1: age translated to justifying or somehow giving you a free
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  Speaker 1: pass for murdering someone by shooting him in the back
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  Speaker 1: of the head. Okay, Luber's obviously didn't buy it. You
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  Speaker 1: show absolutely no remorse. The judge said, your explanation of
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  Speaker 1: you not being there and that your brothers set you
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  Speaker 1: up makes absolutely no sense. She said he believed she
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  Speaker 1: relieve Ferguson had proved to be a dangerous criminals, saying
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  Speaker 1: I have to err on the side of society. You're
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  Speaker 1: a danger to society. You're scary. I'm afraid you're going
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  Speaker 1: to do this again. Oh Joe, what do you think
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  Speaker 1: the outcome would have been if he was in Judge
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  Speaker 1: Silberstein's courtroom. Two cookies and a juice and a pat
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  Speaker 1: on the back be a good boy. Six point thirty six. Tom,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take your call as soon as we get
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  Speaker 1: back for you, nor mindy the talk station, Hey six
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  Speaker 1: forty if and if I have KSD talk station, Happy
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Wednesday too. So I enter for anybody that went to
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  Speaker 1: the Honor Flight welcome home ceremony. Although my friend Submarine
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: or Mike Cribbage, Mike was there. He's been actively involved
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  Speaker 1: in Hunter Flight Tracy for a long time. Send me
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  Speaker 1: a couple of pictures. It does look like there was
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  Speaker 1: a great crowd there, so I certainly hope that was
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  Speaker 1: the case and everyone had a really positive experience and
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: welcoming home those wonderful veterans. Over to the phone, we'll
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: see what Tom's got this morning. Tom, welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday to you.
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  Speaker 9: Well, thank you very much for being there this morning.
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  Speaker 9: And I just I don't understand why Congressman Massey and
• 57:32
  Speaker 9: all these Congressmans worried and senators are worried about this.
• 57:38
  Speaker 9: We don't have any men and Iran. I know we're
• 57:44
  Speaker 9: dropping bombs over there, but we're pinpointing the bombs trying
• 57:49
  Speaker 9: to say the people, the public, these people are mass
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  Speaker 9: murderers that are in the military and police over there,
• 57:56
  Speaker 9: they just kill people for no reason protesting. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 9: And the real problem is we got so much graft
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  Speaker 9: here in this country where people are well, you had
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  Speaker 9: a good guy on there the other day that just
• 58:13
  Speaker 9: talked about these illegal trucking companies. We got people doing
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  Speaker 9: all this. We could have a budget if the Congress
• 58:22
  Speaker 9: and the Senate would sit down and start figuring out
• 58:25
  Speaker 9: ways of getting rid of all this illegal spending. There's
• 58:31
  Speaker 9: a real there's a real problem, and people the public
• 58:34
  Speaker 9: better wake up. Just like you said, we need to
• 58:38
  Speaker 9: start putting people in office that want to stop this
• 58:41
  Speaker 9: stuff instead of that. You know, all this constitutional stuff,
• 58:46
  Speaker 9: I understand, we need to follow the constitution.
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  Speaker 1: It's the law.
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  Speaker 9: But it's the law. But the guy in charge right
• 58:54
  Speaker 9: now is trying to do the best he can, but
• 58:57
  Speaker 9: he's got He keeps getting fooled up by people taken
• 59:01
  Speaker 9: advantage of the constitution.
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  Speaker 1: Well, in what way is the Well wait a second,
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  Speaker 1: in what way is the Constitution being taken advantage of?
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: You You have the language there, and there are different
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  Speaker 1: interpretations in people's minds. You know, what does it mean
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  Speaker 1: to you know, like under the authorization for use military force.
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  Speaker 1: What is the eminent threat? Many people grappling with that. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it was eminent. It's been eminent since they took over Iran.
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  Speaker 1: Well that was like forty years ago, So how come
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  Speaker 1: we haven't done anything before that? It's not eminent. Here's
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: the reasons why they don't represent any threat to the
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  Speaker 1: United States soil or our interests and so have that argument,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: But that's within the confines of the War Powers Act.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: So you have to deal with that reality. And you
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: also have to deal with the with the idea that
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: we're seemingly in a in a rudderless, lawless ship here.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: And I think a lot of my listeners who will
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: appreciate and think that it's the right thing to do
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: to bomb the living crap out of Iran, may not
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: feel that way if let's say it was Barack Obama
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  Speaker 1: doing it, Because I know a lot of my listeners
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: found problems with Barack Obama launching a military action against Libya.
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  Speaker 1: Where is the authorization from use of military force? Then
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: where is the declaration of war? Then many Republicans screen
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: because well, it wasn't their guy doing it. It was
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: it wasn't our guy doing it.
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  Speaker 2: Was theirs.
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  Speaker 1: This is not a question of whose It should never
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: be a question of whose ox is being gored. What
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  Speaker 1: we need here is some clear definition of how and
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  Speaker 1: what things must happen before we start engaging in a
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: military conflict. And I think the rest of the world
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: would appreciate that. I appreciate that as well. Maybe if
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: Congress had been consulted ahead of time, or maybe if
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: we got the authorization for use of military force, it
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: would define the role clearly for the rest of the
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  Speaker 1: world and for us, and most notably for the Iranians.
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  Speaker 1: Here's what we're planning on doing, and here's what Congress
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  Speaker 1: has approved. And then, of course they can always add
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: funding or withhold funding if things go awry. But right
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: now we're rudderless legally speaking. Donald Trump's ignoring the War
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: Powers Act. He says it doesn't apply. Others are saying
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: it does. No one has declared war very clearly. So
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: where do we go from here? Does it go on forever?
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: Like Vietnam? And you do a Vietnam as an illustration of,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: you know, absence of clear congressional authority, absence, I would say,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: of a clearly defined mission stop the communist creep is
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: that sufficient? But in Congress that continue to fund the
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Vietnam conflict all the way through till the moment we
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  Speaker 1: pulled out, we lost, So I can't really it's a
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  Speaker 1: struggle for me as well. But you know, being a
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  Speaker 1: lawyer and having a profound appreciation for the supreme law
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  Speaker 1: of the land, sometimes it does present challenges. The Constitution
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  Speaker 1: we all know does not allow for expedients, and I
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: think our framers put it that way and made it
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: difficult to amend the Constitution and put these protections in
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  Speaker 1: there so people think clearly and thoughtfully and prudently before
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  Speaker 1: making rash decisions. Six forty five right now, ifty five
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  Speaker 1: krsit talksiction. We' get Congress Mastery to chime in on
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  Speaker 1: that woman. He shows up at a eight oh five
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  Speaker 1: Big Picture with Jack Advident after the top of the
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  Speaker 1: hour news and real Quick is Steven anybody else having
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  Speaker 1: a problem with their IRS file and st defiled pay
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  Speaker 1: per form and didn't get any indication they got it.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: There is something out there called the IRS. Where's my
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: refund tool? Joe, who had previously provided some advice to Steve,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: said the AI Google search said, in that situation, do
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  Speaker 1: not file a second identical ten forty the IRS. You're
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: gonna have some problems with processing. They say, wait time
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  Speaker 1: is problematic. IRS offen slow to process paper returns that
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  Speaker 1: is delayed, the delaying, the online tracking updates. Only file
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  Speaker 1: a second return if you receive notification your initial return
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  Speaker 1: was officially rejected. And if it's been more than twenty
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: one days since you e filed electronic file, which doesn't
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: apply to Steve's call, or several weeks after you mailed
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  Speaker 1: your return, you can call the IRS to check the status.
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  Speaker 1: But see, no, you can't apparently because Steve has not
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  Speaker 1: been able to get into the IRS to find out
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  Speaker 1: the status. So try the I R S. Where's my
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  Speaker 1: refund tool? Anybody else out there having a problem, Mike,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for calling this morning. Welcome to the Morning Show.
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  Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday to you.
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  Speaker 13: Right right, real quick. About the Trump threatening to blow
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 13: up power plants and bridges, and they're like, oh, that's
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 13: a that'll be a war crime, but Zelensky does it.
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  Speaker 13: Everybody is ready to slap the Ukrainian flag on their
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  Speaker 13: chests and say we're proud, We're proud of that.
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  Speaker 1: Sounds like Y almost had an accident there, Mike. Yeah, well,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: you know it's a it's a good point. It's it's
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  Speaker 1: a legitimate point. You know, I would argue all day long, legitimate.
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  Speaker 1: And someone out there's probably screwing at the radio, going, yeah,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: what about Israel embombing all the civilian locations within a Gozma?
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: And and you know it's war. It's hell, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: There's not always off repeated phrase about the fog of war. Yeah,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: how many people have died in the Ukraine Russian War.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have any idea, just guess on it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I do remember I wasn't at the invasion of
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: Iraq where we did regularly bomb power plants. I seem
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: to recall that, remember the days of bad Dad Bob.
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  Speaker 1: I don't recall anyone talking about it being a war
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: crime back then. Maybe he had a it's an issue
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: with who is running the show. Maybe Trump derangement syndrome
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: enters into the equation. Since Donald Trump is this is
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: all happening under his watch, So all you need to
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: do is say, well, evil orange man's doing it. Ergo
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: it must be wrong real quick here. James Carvell is
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: a looney tune And the only reason I'm bringing him
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  Speaker 1: up because I have an illustration of him being a
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  Speaker 1: looney tune. Responding to the Sea and End poll that
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  Speaker 1: came out and apparently only twenty eight of a percent
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  Speaker 1: of Americans question of this brand new CNN poll view
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  Speaker 1: the Democratic Party positively. Now, don't get all excited Republicans.
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  Speaker 1: Thirty two percent of Americans say they view the Republican
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  Speaker 1: Party positively, so it's not a huge it's not a
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  Speaker 1: huge increase over the Democrats, but they're polling poorly. So crazy.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: Carvill's on ms now, the new name of the former
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: msnbsped MEBC, talking with Ari melber Melbourn asked Carville whether
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  Speaker 1: he whether this was a problem for him the CNN
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  Speaker 1: poll where only twenty eight percent of Americans had the
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  Speaker 1: favorable view of the Democratic Party. His response, no, The
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: reason that people don't like the Democratic Party is the
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: same reason I don't like it right now. We lost.
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  Speaker 1: When you win, that changes everything. People are part of
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: a political party because they want to be the party
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: to win elections. We lost the elections. You're not supposed
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: to like us. Okay, I don't like us all right,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: And the public is justifiably harsh toward Democrats, he went
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: on to say, as they well should be. And the
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: way to cure that is not with a seven point
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  Speaker 1: plan that you're not going to get through between now
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  Speaker 1: and twenty twenty eight anyway, but it's to go forth
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  Speaker 1: and win the election. Then the Democrats will start liking
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: you again. Is the backcrap insanity of James Carville's words
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: coming through as loudly and clearly as it did for me.
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  Speaker 1: How do you win without a plan. Maybe the reason
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: people don't like the Democrat Party is because of the
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: batcrap crazy plans and suggestions you're regularly shoving down our
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: throat Medicare for all illegal immigrants, free stuff and things,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: sanctuary cities, open borders, hating school choice, embracing the LGBTQ
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  Speaker 1: plus AI whatever narrative, and shoving it down everybody else's
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  Speaker 1: throat as if we're supposed to buy into it and
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: not use our our own common sense, logic and reason
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: when we think about matters of science. And we could
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: go on for probably a forty five minutes to an
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: hour just nitpicking over the Democrats' plans what they run on,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: James Carville, how do you win if that's exactly what
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: you're pushing anyway, At least the poll came out suggesting
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: my side of the argument is in a better position
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: than the Democrats side of the argument. Whatever, we're gonna
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: get that big picture with Jack add in his topic
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  Speaker 1: today a history of total War that'll be up next.
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  Speaker 1: Hope you stick around. We put the app in Happen
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  Speaker 1: picture with Jack Avidan and he is waiting in the wings.
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  Speaker 1: Out of remind folks bottom they are Donald O'Neil on
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  Speaker 1: primary elections, Senior Advisor AFP action in Ohio one hour
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  Speaker 1: from now, Congressman Massy on the status of the war,
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  Speaker 1: and Iran Pam Bondi change over the Department of Justice,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: and of course Judge Ennita Polatano in a late addition,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: an empower you seminar. You are definitely going to want
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  Speaker 1: to attend tomorrow night at seven pm. The dangers of
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: AI and explosive growth of data centers. My guest at
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: eight forty five, Tom Deweez, who's an expert on such matters.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back, Jack Evident. It is always my distinct pleasure
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  Speaker 1: to have you on the program Sir, Good.
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  Speaker 15: Morning, Palam. Thanks as always, we have been discussing the
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  Speaker 15: president's war powers four weeks, citing history and the Constitution.
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  Speaker 15: I will ced my time today to Congressman Massy and
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  Speaker 15: judgment of Politano, with whom I disagree. The question for
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  Speaker 15: me right now, do we have peace in Iran? Or
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 15: do we have what Neville Chamberlain called peace in our time?
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 15: President Trump's granted Iran's terrorists a two week reprieve, but
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 15: only quote subject to the complete, immediate and safe opening
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 15: of the Strait of Horror moves. Iran's foreign minister replied
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  Speaker 15: in a letter you can look up and have appeared
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  Speaker 15: to agree that he'd go along with that, but only
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  Speaker 15: subject to his own ten count of ten conditions, which
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  Speaker 15: include are you ready for this? America paying Iran reparations?
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 15: Also Iran imposing a two million dollars toll on each
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  Speaker 15: tanker sailing through the Strait which Iran does not own,
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  Speaker 15: as well as guarantees that Iran will not be attacked again.
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  Speaker 15: Iran's ten point demand does not include surrendering its enriched
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  Speaker 15: uranium and giving up its nuclear ambitions, So we'll see.
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  Speaker 15: I know what I'd like to discuss today, the claim
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 15: from Democrats, some Republicans, and many of our so called
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  Speaker 15: allies that had Donald Trump got ahead with his attacks
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  Speaker 15: on a run, he would have been a bit war
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  Speaker 15: criminal than Hitler, Stalin and the man John Kerry calls
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  Speaker 15: Jengis Khan combined. What are they talking about?
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  Speaker 7: Well?
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  Speaker 15: In what may go down as one of history's most
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  Speaker 15: famous threats, President Trump warned Irons Mullah's and Revolutionary Guard
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  Speaker 15: that if their terrorist state did not agree by eight
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  Speaker 15: o'clock last night Eastern Time to scrap their nuclear and
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  Speaker 15: long range missile programs, quote, a whole civilization will die,
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  Speaker 15: never to be brought back again.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 15: Trump said he did not want that to happen, so
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 15: he had granted Iran even more time to negotiate than
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 15: they'd asked for. Because Trump was threatening what historians call
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 15: total war, the destruction of Iran's energy grid and its bridges,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 15: which effectively would have destroyed its entire economy, the death
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 15: of Iran civilization. We do history, my friend review them.
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  Speaker 15: The most famous example of total war is ancient Rome's
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 15: destruction of Carthage. Prior to the so called Punic Wars,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 15: about two hundred years before Christ, Carthage had a massive
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 15: trading empire ranging from North Africa the capital was in
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  Speaker 15: Tunisia up through Europe. When Rome expanded south, the two
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 15: empires butted heads. The Carthaginians Hannibal floated thirty seven elephants
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 15: from Africa across the Mediterranean to Spain and then marched
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 15: them with his troops up and down the Italian Alps
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 15: so they could surprise Rome from behind. He could have
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 15: finished off Rome right there, changing history forever, but instead
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 15: Hannibal let Rome off the hook, leading to two more
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 15: Punic Wars. Rome won the last one and then literally
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 15: plowed Carthage into dust. As Trump would say, it was
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 15: never brought back again. Around the world, most warfare after
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 15: that was not total Armies fought battles, but civilian populations
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 15: pretty much escaped harm. One exception was our own Civil War,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 15: with hundreds of thousands of soldiers already dead and no
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 15: end in sight the norths General Sherman made a scorched
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 15: earth march to Atlanta, burning everything in his path. God
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 15: with the Wind shows what that was like. Red Butler
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 15: driving Scarlet and Melanie and her baby through hell. It
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 15: took the South a century to recover. More recently, both
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 15: sides turned World War II into a total war. Nazi
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 15: aerial bombers reduced the Dutch city of Rotterdam to rubble
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 15: in a matter of hours. Franklin Roosevelt did the same
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 15: thing to the German city of Dresden, but finally ended
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  Speaker 15: the war. In the Pacific was, of course, the atomic
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 15: bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but Germany and Japan did
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  Speaker 15: rise from the ashes thanks to the United States. Following
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 15: the war, in history's greatest act of generosity, America rebuilt
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 15: Europe under the Marshall Plan, and we also rebuilt Japan,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 15: helping it adopt a democratic constitution. It still has the
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 15: emperor remained, just as Britain still has a king, but
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 15: Japan was no longer run by warlords terrorizing their neighbors. Brian,
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  Speaker 15: I don't know what's going to happen in Iran. Its
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  Speaker 15: people have not been able to rise up because the
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  Speaker 15: Mullahs and the Revolutionary Guard disarmed them. We've talked about
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 15: how the American Revolution could not have been won without
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 15: the colonist's freedom to bear arms. Also, if Americans had
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 15: lacked freedom of speech, Thomas Paine's Little pamphlet may have
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 15: been the most influential one ever written. President Trump loves
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 15: its title common Sense. There is been no common sense
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  Speaker 15: in Iran for the last forty seven years. The last
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 15: time Iranians, inspired by stupid college students like our own,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 15: had a chance to express themselves, they replaced the Western
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 15: allied shah with the Ayatola, who was bent unlike his
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 15: neighbors in the Middle East, on worldwide shahad folks. History
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 15: shows that total war is horrendous, but the alternative is
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 15: sometimes worse. As many as eighty five million lives were
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 15: lost because Britain did not heed Winston Churchill and stop
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 15: Hitler before he launched World War Two, and how many
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 15: more lives would have been lost had not Churchill and
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 15: Roosevelt decisively ended the fighting and the death camp genocide
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 15: with total warfare. Getting back to Iran, if you think
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  Speaker 15: Steve Whitkoff was lying about how close Iran is to
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  Speaker 15: developing nuclear weapons, then the Democrats and isolationist Republicans are right,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 15: we should keep kicking this can down the road. But
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 15: Trump's chief negotiator did not have to lie about Iran's
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 15: ballistic missiles. We've now seen how many thousands they had
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 15: and how many missiles could reach Europe and soon America.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 15: Beyond that, by continuing to develop nuclear weapons even after
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 15: last June's B two bombing, Iran's current regime showed they
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 15: will never be deterred. And of course we now know
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 15: how easy it's been for Iran to violate international navigation
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 15: law by choking off the Strait of Hormuz and twenty
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 15: percent of the world's oil. In some when it comes
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 15: to ridding the world of what Trump calls you crazy bastards,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 15: I think he's been proved courageous and right. The threat
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 15: of total war got us this far to these negotiations.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 15: If Iran is once again playing for time, hoping the
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 15: next Democrat or republicanized as president will let them get
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 15: away with murder, Trump justifiably may have to attack again.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think, Well, it's controversial. Well, it's just
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  Speaker 1: the reality. What we're dealing with right now. But going
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: to the question of, you know, total annihilation of Iran,
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  Speaker 1: it seems to me and and I have to predicate
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: this comment on you know what I heard from Daniel
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: Davis yesterday, which is the stockpile those weapons that you
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: mentioned a moment ago. They have thousands and thousands of
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: rockets and weapons and little drone boats and mines, olympid
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: mines and all that kind of stuff stockpiled away hidden
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: in big bunkers. And apparently, you know, at least Daniel
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: Davis's resources have said we can't get at so that's
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: going to remain, which suggests we are going to have
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: to enter Iran with boots on the ground in order
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: to ferret all that out. And I suppose my question
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  Speaker 1: is is it worth the loss of human capital and
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: US lives to accomplish the goal of completely eradicating Iran
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: and leaving them toothless so they can't do this again
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: shutting off the straight of horror moves It just it
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: just seems like that's going to be necessary.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 15: I'm sorry I should have included Colonel Davis, for whom
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 15: I have a lot of respect among your guests, with
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 15: whom I disagree. The world is different from the way
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 15: it was under the Mad regime with the Soviet Union
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 15: mutually assured destruction. MAD was predicated on the idea that
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 15: the Soviet leaders, even Stalin, were somewhat rational. The Iranians
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 15: are not. They are an eschatological regime. They welcome death.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 15: It's just different. If they disagree with that, then, you know,
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 15: I hope we'll never know how wrong they might have been.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: Well mutually, that's the point of mutually assured destruction. If
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: they were to go crazy and launch one of these weapons,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: if they got one, they're assured that their country is
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: going to be wiped off the map, and then we
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: outgunned the crap out of them.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 15: The Iatola Homony and the Iatola Hamani apparently didn't care.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 15: They were willing to give up their own lives. Hollmany
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 15: wish to die in bed Hamine not so much.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: But the regime lives on. You're talking about a situation
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: where the regime wouldn't live on. If they want to
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: be a martyr for something that's going to outlast their lives,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: allow them to. But if they launched a bomb, they
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: are inviting the complete eradication of human life, let's just
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: say out loud, or the complete eradication of what would
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: be left if they hadn't dropped a bomb, which is
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: the regime itself.
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  Speaker 15: Well, you're assuming that our bombs would work, and there's
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  Speaker 15: wouldn't we.
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  Speaker 1: We No, I'm saying that pick a target, Jack, I mean,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: pick a city they choose to. They're not going to
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: have an arsenal of thousands of nuclear weapons overnight, so
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: they've got a finite number. They pick a city, they bombit,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: then they're going to get eradicated and wiped off the mat.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: That's the point of a mutually assured destruction.
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  Speaker 15: So and all we'll have lost is a cityhaps a
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 15: lot of people. Let me let me move on to
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 15: one last point to Brian, because I'm afraid I do
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 15: with these people and press many people in the audience.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 15: The greatest threat we faced is not Iran or even
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 15: communist China. We're suring these next two weeks may give
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 15: them a lot of weapons. The greatest threat we faces
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 15: our own internal rot yep. Young people, young people, many
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 15: of whom are now old people who have been taught
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 15: since the nineteen sixties to hate American values of individual rights,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 15: free enterprise and limited government, and the tens of millions
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 15: of illegal immigrants who are now the woke socialists' new
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 15: voting base. If you doubt that, just look at Western Europe.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 15: We started rotting at the end of World War II,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 15: fifteen years before we did whether or not we leave NATO,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 15: and I think we should stay because many Eastern European
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 15: former communist states, poland Latvia, we'd go through the list,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 15: many of them do support our values. Western Europe has
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 15: declined and fallen thanks to the same poisonous forces. We
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 15: now face unchecked immigration by people who don't share our
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 15: former values, big government, attax on free speech, socialism including
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 15: cradle to grave welfare, and political corruption. Changing Iran's government
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 15: is not going to change all of that. I'll agree
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 15: with you on that point. But we have to defend
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 15: our own way of life. That's the challenge right now.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 15: And when you too told people in the first hour
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 15: that you gotta go out and vote, and early voting
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 15: has started, I hope they'll heed that.
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  Speaker 1: I'll defend that point all day long. Jack. We need
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: to get our own house in order. We need to
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: defend our own way of life right here in our
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: own backyard and need to start paying attention to that
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: because you know we are well, we are deteriorating as
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: a country, There's no question about it, Jack, So maybe
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: we should start at home.
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  Speaker 15: We should.
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  Speaker 1: I agree on that all day long. Certainly appreciate your insight,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: your thoughts, Jack Ad. It's always a pleasure to have
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  Speaker 1: you on this program. We'll do it again next Wednesday,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: and as I always end with best of health and
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: love to you in your better half.
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  Speaker 15: Thank you for giving me a say, and all the
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 15: people calling.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: Listen, Jack, this is why I love this program. I
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: am looking for answers like everyone else. I do not
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: profess to have a monopoly on what is right or wrong.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: I can see the problems, we can lay them out,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: and we can talk about different sides and different viewpoints
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: on something that people rarely ever try to agree on.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: This is the point. It's debate. Hopefully it's thoughtful debate.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: It's not angry debate. You didn't come on and start
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: screaming a name calling Congressman Massy. You said you disagreed
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: with him, and you articulated your points on why. I
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: understand that, and that's to me the beauty of the show.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: Because I get enlightened too, and I try to get
• 1:21:39
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• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: it comes to my own political viewpoints and my own
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: points on what's going on in the world. And that's
• 1:21:45
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• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: for everyone. It's another reason why I love having you
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  Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday. Brian Thomas always looking forward to talking to
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  Speaker 1: Donovan and Eel with his hat on as senior advisor
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: for AFP Americans for Prosperity Action in Ohio. Welcome back
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: Donovan and Neil. Let's talk about early voting, which is
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: going on right now. Welcome back my friend Brian. Always
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: a pleasure to be with you. Yeah, it's that time
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: of year. The doorhangers are arriving, the mails in the box,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: the digital ads are fired up. It's it's time to
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: get out and vote, folks. At the issue that came
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: up yesterday, I was talking with Tom Zawastowski from We
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: the People Convention. He was all over the primary and
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: people getting you know, got to get out and got
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: to get out and vote, and in some of the
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: races we talked about, and I started a step back
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: and I said, wait a second. In an all red
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: state like Ohio, and it is pretty predominantly red, so
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: the default position for minds like is there really anything
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: to worry about, like, for example, the gubernatorial rays, I mean,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: is it possible that Democrat could win? And his point
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: was is people have to get up and go vote
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: just because you're in a solid red state. If you
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: don't vote as a conservative, Republican or libertarian, you can
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: end up with Democrats winning because they're fired up apparently
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: more than the Democrats or more than the Republicans. Your
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: reaction to that sort of observation, Donalin.
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  Speaker 6: Well, absolutely, I mean, you know, humans are creatures that
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 6: have it, Brian. If you know you don't do something
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 6: on a regular basis or with some level of frequency,
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 6: most people stop doing it, and voting is no exception.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 6: But I also and I agree with that sentiment in
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 6: terms of we hear that a lot, Well, Hio's a
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 6: red state, We're going to be fine. I hear it
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 6: from our folks on a national level. You know, my
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 6: colleagues and other states, they say, well, you know, Ohio's red,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 6: you're gonna hold the Senate seat against shared Brown with
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 6: John Hughes said, they said, well, actually, you know, that's
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 6: the kind of thing that gets us in trouble because
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 6: you know, you assume your neighbor's going to go vote,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 6: and so you don't have to. But the reality is
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 6: this is a responsibility we all share. And you know,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 6: it's not that long ago that we were a truly
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 6: a purple stage that had a number of Democrats elected statewide.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: Yep, you've got that. And then, of course the Trump factor,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: which is a big unknown entity out there, and I
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: just kind of speculate in the future, what are the
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: Democrats going to do when they don't have Donald Trump
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: to complain about all the time anymore. They're going to
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: have to come up with a strategy of their own
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: that isn't nonsensical. But the Shared Brown race is an
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: important one, Donovan. I'm glad you said that one out loud.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: That is going to be a national level race. There's
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: going to be millions and millions of out of state
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: dollars being pumped in to help support Shared Brown. So
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: money raising money is going to be an issue.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 6: Oh, absolutely, Well, it's the number one race for the
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 6: Senate Leadership Fund. They released their spending figures. I forget
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 6: the number off the top of my head, but it
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 6: is already the number one race nationally for Republicans. And
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 6: we actually just rolled out a if the Action rolled
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 6: out a half a million dollar our first salvo in
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 6: this effort, a digital aid campaign for Huston Web, largest
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 6: so far this cycle for not just Houston, I believe,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 6: but also nationally with our organization. So we've got our
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 6: sites set on this as the number one race for
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 6: AFP Action as well.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: Is there any early polling on that race, Donovan and Neil, Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 6: Mean we've got some internals that track. I'd say largely
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 6: with what you see out there in the public. You know,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 6: it's a it's a close race, and I think there's
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 6: two factors that are driving that right now.
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  Speaker 2: One is.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 6: Democrat energy is just higher. Folks on a generic ballot
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 6: right now, given some of the national sentiment around the
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 6: war and I ran and other things, are you know,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 6: more inclined. It's just sort of how these trends go.
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  Speaker 6: Number Two, there's about twenty to twenty five percent of
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 6: the electorate who do not have an opinion yet on
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 6: John Houstead. And that's what makes our work so impactful
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 6: because we're out there helping frame the debate, frame the
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 6: frame the way voters think about John Hustead. And the
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 6: reality is it's not too surprising to me because at
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 6: this stage in the year, most folks aren't paying attention
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 6: to elections and that's why we're out knocking doors tell
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 6: them that's happening right now.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, Sery Brown does have a primary contender.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: It looks like John Houston does not beyond the libertarian candidates,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: which all acknowledge are there. But at least John Houston
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: doesn't have a Republican challenger, unlike I know, the gubernatorial
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: race when you've got that Casey Puch guy trying to
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: out to beat V. V. Ramaswamy. Any internal polling on
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: that particular battle, on that.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 6: One in particular, No, I think Bik walks away with
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 6: that quite handily. I just saw, you know, I've been
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 6: to a number of events, and you see the sort
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 6: of crowds that he's able to bring together in the
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 6: post of vision.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: He puts forward.
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  Speaker 6: And you know, that's exciting for a state like Ohio
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 6: where we don't traditionally elect We just never have candidates
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 6: who are big, bold, visionary thinkers. And I think we're
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 6: we've got. There's a real excitement out there for someone
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 6: like him who can come in and really deliver on
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 6: the promises that so many Ohio Republicans have Democrats have.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 5: Put out there for us.
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  Speaker 6: I think he's the kind of guy who's going.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: To get it done. So Yes, And I like to
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: think Amy acting in this state, given her COVID nineteen responses,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: has not a snowballs chance in hell in November. That
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: that is my hope, It is my prayer, But it's
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: also a kind of a profound belief. I just can't
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: imagine her getting traction because when the campaign money starts
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: flowing and the ads start running, everyone is going to
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: be reminded about Amy acting and her nonsensical reaction to
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: COVID nineteen here in a while.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I say it all the time, right you me,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 6: Joe Strek. Well, we're all kind of weird as we eat, sleep,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 6: and breathe of stuff every day, and so we're following
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 6: it all. But a lot of voters are just trying
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 6: to get their kids to the soccer game on the weekends,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 6: make ends meet to pay you know, their utility bills,
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 6: or you know, get to work or find some time
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 6: for a week long vacation. They forget who Amy Acting was.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 6: And I think, yeah, on once that campaign starts up,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 6: to remind folks of who she was and what she
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 6: did the last time she was in the public spotlight,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 6: I think that voters are going to have a bad
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 6: taste in their mouth, as they should.
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  Speaker 1: Afp Action Donovan o'nil. It's possib bring Donovan back talking
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: about some of the other primary races we need to
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  Speaker 1: keep our eye on and how we can collectively get
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: involved either a lot or a little bit, to help
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: advance the more sane issues here in the state of
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  Speaker 1: Ohio and ensure that we remain in a red state.
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  Speaker 1: This November seventh, third of the Americans for Prosperity Action
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  Speaker 1: in Ohio, Donovan O'Neil, real quick here, Donovan, bear with
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: me just a moment. I got a message from submariner Cribbage. Mike,
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: who is big into the Honor Flight, was there for
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: the welcome home ceremony as well as the sendoff yesterday,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: just sent me a message. He said it was a
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: phenomenal welcome home. So first report I got, other than
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: the photographs, I just want to let my listeners know
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: since I'm always looking forward to those wonderful events and
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: thank God for Honor Flight tri State and everybody who
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: gets involved in it. Back over to Donovan O'Neil. In
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: the primary which is coming up. Early votings already there.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: Get it out of the way, Just get out and
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: vote so your vote is reflected. And we seem to
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: be collectively in the nation in an environment where we're
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: kind of looking for political outside. You know, we're sick
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: of incumbents, we're sick of the Mitch mcconnells in the
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: world being around for decades and decades and looking forward
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: to a change. And one of the ones that I
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: think this is going to come into play with the
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: primary and I think we're going to be well served
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: in Ohio regardless of who wins the primary for Secretary
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  Speaker 1: of State. Your choices of Marcel Sturbage and Robert Sprague.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: Now Sprague has a record, and I had a listener
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: call early this morning. It was critical of Robert Sprague's record,
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: and is you know, whatever he did or didn't do
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: in so far as ferreting out fraud, waste and abuse
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: in Ohio. But there he is on the ballot, Marcel Sturbage.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: I've interviewed both of them. He is a strong candidate.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: He doesn't have a record to run on, which kind
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: of frees him up as some of the baggage Sprague
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: might have if you want to look at Spragg's record
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: and be critical of it. But that's one where I
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: am impressed by both men. And I'm wondering if you
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: have any sense from going door to door and talking
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: to Ohioans what their opinions are in that particular race.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: Donovan O'Neil, Yeah, not so much.
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  Speaker 6: Door to doors, as we're you know, usually focused on
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 6: the specific candidate or of a doorhannger and sort of
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 6: is where the where the topic of conversation lends itself.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 6: But you know, just kind of traveling around the state
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 6: and you know, being being at events with the grassroots
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 6: around the state. I think I think your assessment is
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 6: largely right now. You know, I've I've known Robert Spray
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 6: for for a really long time, and I think, you know,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 6: he's somebody who haven't been able to talk with him
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 6: about the different you know, issues and things that he's
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 6: focused on to where he sees Ohio going. I think
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 6: he does a I think he's got a real strong vision.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 6: And the more folks who get a who get to
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 6: meet him and talk to him, I think they they
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 6: feel that same way. But you know, with uh, you
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 6: got to go out and win the primary. And that's
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  Speaker 6: what That's the beautiful part of the part of the process,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 6: right is getting out there and actually you know, making
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 6: the case for your campaign and then earning those votes
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 6: and you get it better. I think you get a
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 6: better general election candidate and a better public servant when
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 6: folks have to you know, sort of sort of make
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 6: their case and earn it.
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  Speaker 1: What are you hearing about inflation? Obviously the timing couldn't
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: be worse for you know, coming up to the November election,
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: depending on how this Iran situation works out, but profoundly
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: impacting at least the price of gasoline, and of course
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: that's going to trickle over into food inflation if the
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: fertilizer continues to be held up and diesel prices continue
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: to go through the roof. So we've got a problem
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: on our hands, notably since Trump ran on lowering inflation.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: Is that something that you're hearing in the state of Ohio.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: That's a big issue for folks, And if so, what
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: is the answer and how do you address it when
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: you're going door to door talking with people.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, without a doubt, affordability, whether it's in healthcare, utility
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 6: and energy costs, or just going to the grocery store. Well,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 6: folks have seen some release, and I think as they're
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 6: finding the taxes, they're seeing even more and appreciating the
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 6: work of the one big, beautiful bill of working family
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 6: tax cuts package. But here, I mean, here's the reality there.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 6: Somebody needs to be sound on an alarm here because
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 6: you know, as we find ourselves entrenched in the Middle East,
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 6: as you know, we have bills like the Speed Act
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 6: that would unleash energy abundance in the nation once again
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 6: stalled in the Senate and Congress not set, not in
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 6: DC doing its job, or when it's there being dysfunctional.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 6: That's a real problem, Brian. That is going to if
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 6: it hasn't already, it is going to catch Republicans, It's
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 6: going to catch conservatives and Democrats are certainly capitalizing on
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 6: that right now. And so there's a path out of this,
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 6: there's a path forward. We have a vision for what
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 6: can be done at America's prosperity. We've got a vision
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 6: thro our affordability agenda. The President has laid out a
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 6: number of items that Congress can tackle. I think House
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 6: and Senate leadership both understand the importance. But it's a
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 6: matter of actually getting those respective caucuses into DC, into
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 6: action and focused on a shared vision or it really
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 6: truly could be a disaster this November.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and that's what's got me down, you know, on
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: the heels of this CNN a poll that just came
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: out I believe yesterday. Democrats are well doing pretty poorly
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: in terms of perception. Only twenty eight percent of Americans
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: have a favor view of the Democrat Party, which you
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: think will good, that's right, but they only have a
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: thirty two percent favorable view of Republicans, so the margin
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: is pretty slim there. So I just I hate the
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: idea that this moment in time, that this in you know,
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: the price of gas for example, that we're living right
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: now at this moment in time, which we know is
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: going to resolve itself at some point, that that could
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: be the defining moment in November in the election when
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: there is such a vast cavern of difference cosmid difference
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: between the Republicans and Democrats. I mean, Democrats still run
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: on the same woke playbook, you know, diversity, equity, inclusion,
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: LGBTQ plus issues, a higher taxation, expanding Medicare, Medicaid making
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: it more available to illegal immigrants, not wanting to evict
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: you know, criminal illegal immigrants. This is all they're about.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 11: It.
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  Speaker 1: Every single one of the issues I just mentioned are
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: eighty twenty issues with most of Americans, which would suggest
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: why would you vote for the Democrats just because well,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: damn it, I paid five bucks a gown for gas yesterday.
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  Speaker 6: Oh get no voter, God love them there. The attention's
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 6: been there is very short, right, and you know, when
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 6: you're in the minority, you don't actually have to lead.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 6: It's the benefit of being in the minority, which Democrats
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 6: are right now. And so you know, you'd get folks
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 6: like Shared Brown who have the freedom quite frankly, to
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 6: run around the state saying whatever they want to say
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 6: and positioning themselves as a semi moderate, you know, common
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 6: sense man.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: Of the people.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 6: And we know who Shared run as anything but that right.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 6: And so the task right is to go out and
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 6: actually make sure though, because it's not enough to just
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 6: say this guy is a phony. You actually got to
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 6: provide a counter vision, a positive vision that'll you know,
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 6: win the voter over. And that's that's the task at hand.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 6: But you know, the biggest favor that Congress can do,
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 6: that Republicans on a national level can do for the
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 6: grassroots folks and to help secure this majority for the
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 6: last two years of President Trump's term, would be to
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 6: get things on track right, get DHS funded, open the government, finally,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 6: get that Speed Act done so we can actually get
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 6: energy permitting moving once again in this country, and you know,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 6: avoid finding themselves in situations like we find our selves
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 6: in Iran right now, where again you've got a lot
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 6: of voters, a lot of voters scratching their heads saying this.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 6: You know, this isn't what I voted for. I don't
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 6: know why we're why we're entirely involved here, and you know,
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 6: because at the end of the day, what they care
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 6: about is affordability. Brian, and I don't say all this
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 6: on the air to you know, be a damper or
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 6: a Debbie Downer. So, I mean, there's we're talking to
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 6: folks at the doors, and there's a real there's a
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 6: there's a potential catastrophe coming down the line if Republicans
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 6: nationally don't get on the right track and start focusing
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 6: on the things that voters care about, which.
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  Speaker 1: Affordability, right exactly, And that's why we need listeners to
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  Speaker 1: help out. We're working with AFP Action at Ohio. How
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  Speaker 1: do we do that, Donovan O'Neill.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 6: Well for AFP Action, of course, go to AFP action
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  Speaker 6: dot com. That's how you can get involved on that
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 6: race to help re elect John Houston to the US
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 6: Senate and protect this seat and the Republican majority in Washington.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 6: But if you want to help at the state level
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 6: and a lot of a number of things that AFP
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 6: Ohio is doing, you can goays, go to Buckeye.
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  Speaker 3: Blueprint dot com.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: There's your websites. Get involved a little or a lot.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: Everybody could use your help so we can say of
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: ourselves from what a lot of people are saying is inevitable,
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: which is the Democrats taken over control of Congress in November,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: and that scares the crap out of me. Dog station.
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  Speaker 1: It is seven fifty one to fifty five Casey Talk Station.
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  Speaker 1: I've been hoping to hear from Cribbage my submarine or friend.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back Cribbage. Mike. You were at the honor flight
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: yesterday and I want to thank you for the work
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: that you do for on her flight, and I want
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: to hear about the welcome home ceremony. Good to hear
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  Speaker 1: from me this morning.
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  Speaker 5: Well, Brian, it just was over the top. And being
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 5: back at the airport last night, a couple of comments
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 5: I had was that they've never had that much difficulty
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 5: finding a parking spot. They actually had to go down
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 5: to long term parking and take the shuttle in.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome, that's a problem, but it's it's an awesome problem.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 5: That's an excellent problem they have with the media being there,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 5: and I know these guys that could. Did a couple
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 5: of interviews, and there's just once again, as you mentioned yesterday,
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 5: just allergy outbreaks all over that sure court and just
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 5: so phenomenal. And I tried to document it as far
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 5: as just love seeing the kids there, you know, for Grandpa,
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 5: great grandpa, the Scouts, school kids, even the the honor
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 5: nurses were there in full uniform, the Patriot Riders motorcycle
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 5: group with their American flags. I mean, you know, we
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 5: both said it hundreds of times that just to experience that,
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 5: and predominantly as I mentioned when we were in DC yesterday,
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 5: you know, these are all Vietnam vetts. I mean, not
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 5: only did they not get that, you know, we all
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 5: know it's been documented, they were spit upon. I couldn't
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 5: even wear my uniform off base during that time in
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 5: our country. Yeah, so this is our chance. And then
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 5: obviously with the current world situation, what's going on now,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 5: I think people really get what these seventy to eighty
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 5: year old gentlemen did when they were seventeen, eighteen, nineteen
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  Speaker 5: years old?
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that the truth? And boy, we could sure use
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: a dose of patriotism with these crazy times. And that
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: is exactly why I'm saying, please know how many people
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: showed up yesterday at the honor flight. We'll have when's
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: the next honor flight?
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  Speaker 5: Mike Jesday, May nineteen, Sir, and I had a gentleman
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 5: who was a West Point graduate. And the way I
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 5: got to meet him we were at the Navy Memorial
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 5: and he asked if I had a magic marker, and
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 5: I said, well no, but I got a pen. I said,
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 5: what's up? He did to get autograph or something? Jokingly
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 5: he said that no, he wants to write beat Navy
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 5: and take a picture of it for the Navy Memorial.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 5: But to put a tear jerker moment on him because
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 5: we immediately went over to the Vietnam Wall to help
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 5: people find names on the wall and then of course
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 5: do the etching. He had a sheet of thirty classmates
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 5: three zero that are on that wall. He found about
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 5: five or six. But once again here you got a
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 5: guy that just obviously huge ribbing between the two academies.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 5: But then when it came to that black granite wall
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 5: with fifty eight thousand plus names on it, you know,
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 5: just rips your heart out. This at honor flight and
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 5: everybody there the school kids that were there on spring
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 5: break to shake their hands, realize the moment that these
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 5: gentlemen are going through.
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  Speaker 1: That's great. And my experience when I went on the
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: one of the honor flights was the school children that
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: were around in DC and they all just sort of
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: ran up to the veterans. They were really excited. You
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: didn't They didn't need prompting. They just they saw the
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: veterans and the Honor Flight shirts and ran right over
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: to them. Mike, thank you again for what you do
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: with Honor Flight. To everybody involved, Thanks to the good
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: people at CVG made it all happen, all the groups
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: that showed up for it, and my listening audience if
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: you went, if you went there, I know you were
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: just sort of screaming at the raady of going, Yeah,
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: it was that great. Well put it down on your
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: calendar to be at the next one and bring your
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: kids along as well. Beautiful experience. Mike, Thank you again.
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  Speaker 1: You have a wonderful day. My friend seven fifty five.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, if you five krc DE talk station coming
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: up after the top of the hour, news Congressman Thomas
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: Massy will get his reaction to this two week pause
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: with fighting in the war and Iran.
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  Speaker 2: Longer complete military objections shortly now much longer the recent
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: rives and ghasoline prices.
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  Speaker 1: Every day something new.
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  Speaker 2: The hard part is done every day on.
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  Speaker 1: Fifty five krc D Talkstation. Ay O five Here at
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  Speaker 1: fifty five krc DE Talk Station by Thomas wishing everyone
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: a very happy Wednesday, and welcoming back to the fifty
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  Speaker 1: five krc Morning Show, Congressman Thomas Massy. It's always a
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: great pleasure to have you on the show. Congressman Massy,
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: welcome back.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: Great to be on. I heard the weather update thirty
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: two degrees. I covered my plants with the tarp yesterday,
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: and I'm wondering if I can uncover them before I
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: go out campaigning and working in the district today.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with yes. Tonight it's going to
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: be a low of fifty tomorrow night a low of
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: fifty two, and it looks like we're trending in that direction.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: So don't rely on me. I'm just telling you what
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: Channel nine says, and good luck with that. So far,
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: we've we've been unscathed in the Thomas backyard, so all
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: of our tree and I'll still have buds on that.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: I'm thankful for that.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Listen, today I'm speaking at the Optimist Club, and
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: so I have to remain optimistic about this frost on
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: my peaches. I think it'll be just fine. They can
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: take weather down to about twenty eight degrees right now.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: Fair enough. And I thought you're getting ready to pivot
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: over the two week pause and the bombing over between
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: US and Iran, And is there a reason to be
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: optimistic about this? I mean, we can stop. We paused
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: for a moment before you and I might discuss the
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: legality of the We appearing to be this sort of
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: state of flux, not even really a gray area with
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: war powers act on one side and declaration of war
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: on another. We seem to be a rudderless ship legally speaking.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: But there we are. We're in it, We're bombing. So
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: this leads us to the ceasefire, a two weeks ceasefire
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: as long as the Straight of Horror movez remains open.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: Although there's mixed messages kind of from the Iranians as
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: to what the scope of that and what that exactly means.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: What is your reaction at least as to where we
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: are right now, Congressman Massy Well.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: I was optimistic for about thirty minutes, and then I
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: saw Israel got bombed, the UAE allegedly got bombed, Iran
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: got bombed. It sounds like they're still doing strikes in Lebanon,
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: which was allegedly part of the peace or the ceasefire.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: There is no peace deal. It's a ceasefire, so there's
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: still room for the final deal to come out. I
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: don't like the idea that now that the Straits of
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: Hormus will be taxed two million dollars per passage.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: Of a ship.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: But you know, any deal that stops the destruction of
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: infrastructure that you know they were probably will end up
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: paying to the bit back. I'm afraid I'm not for that.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: I would rather build our own infrastructure. Yeah, and anything
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: that stops the destruction of civilian life, and most importantly,
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: as soon as we can get our men and women
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: out of harms way, that would be great.
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  Speaker 5: Well.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the interesting thing is if you look back
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: historically speaking the wars that we have won, we rebuild
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: the countries that we defeat World War two, notably on
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: that one, it seems to me be the Iranian people's
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: best interest if they just declared they lose and then
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: we go in. It's not reparation so much as we
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: want to build a stronger Iran nation that will provide
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: some stability in the region and allow them to trade
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: and cooperate economically with everyone else. That would anner to
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: their benefit. But the Mullahs aren't going down that road.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not. And so we'll see you. I've heard
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 2: it's a ten point plan, a fifteen point plan. We'll
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: see how many points come out, and I'll just remain optimistic.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: I will tell you legally, though, that within sixty days
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: of introducing forces into hostilities that the President requires under
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: the Warpowers Act, a positive vote of Congress. So we
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: had a different vote a few weeks ago on a
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: resolution that I wrote, which was to say that you
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: need to get permission to go any further. That failed
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: by just one or two votes. But and if it
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: had passed, could have vetoed it.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: But what happens on April twenty ninth is his sixty
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: day window under the nineteen seventy three War Powers of
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: Resolution Act expires. He can have a thirty day extension
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: that puts US at May twenty ninth, and on May
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: twenty ninth, the House and the Senate both need to
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: vote in the majority to allow the troops to remain
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: deployed or he has to bring them back. So that's
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: mark your calendars. May twenty ninth is going to be
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 2: an important date. You know, even if we're in some
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: kind of ceasefire, it would require us to withdraw if
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: there's a positive vote or I'm sorry, if there's not
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: a positive vote of Congress. And the significance of the
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: way I'm phrasing that is there's no way the president
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: could veto something that allows him to and then subsequently
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: keep troops there.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: Well, what of the I mean, we're currently in a
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: situation where none of this exists right now. Some are
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: asserting that the warpower is Act isn't even implicated here,
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: and people can feel free to argue amongst themselves. Many
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: other Republicans and some Democrats are also suggesting exactly what
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: you said. You know, come ninety days, you're gonna need
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: to have a vote on this. But what if there
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: isn't approval that means the troops automatically must be withdrawn? Yeah,
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: and how does one bring about that?
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: Reality, possessions nine tenths of the law, and he is
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 2: the commander in chief. Yeah, so you know, there's no
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: way to enforce it. In reality, each Congress wanted to,
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: they could not appropriate the money to continue the war.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: But that puts that puts congressmen in a really bad position.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: There's no you know, scenario in which we wouldn't want
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: to fund them. Now here's the problem, though. The military
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: supplemental they've asked for is two hundred billion dollars. And
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: if this is costing let's say one point two billion
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: dollars a day, it's probably costs more than that. But
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: if it costs one point two billion dollar a day,
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: they're asking for another six months of war funding. And
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: that's not you know, that's going to be a problem there.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: So there's different ways you could enforce it, but it'd
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: be better if everybody just followed the law that's written down.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: I do believe the War Powers Resolution, which is a
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: law from nineteen seventy three, is implicated here. It would
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 2: be very hard at this point to say this is
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: not a war.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, he's even used the word war since he originally
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: was trying to stay away from it. And we call
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: it a police action like we did in Korea or whatever.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: I semantics is semantics, and I think that's all we're
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: dealing with here. And he did when quote unquote notified
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: Congress within forty eight hours after the bomb started dropping.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: But I guess the press provided notification to Congress too,
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: because we all knew the bombs were dropping.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: Right, So well, let's just pray for peace. Yeah, hopefully
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: this is all a moot point. I just wanted to
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: put those dates on your calendar. Hopefully it's all a
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: moot point. Hopefully the ceasefire holds and it turns into
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: some kind of law lasting peace agreement. And let's be
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: optimistic because I'm going to the Optimist Club to speak today. Right,
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: the last time I was at the Optimist Club, I
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: started out by saying, listen, I'm here to make a withdrawal,
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: not a deposit at the Optimist Club.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: Congress of MASSI I have to interject this because I
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: am no huge fan of the United Nations. They seem
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: to be a complete exercise and pointlessness, and yesterday served
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: to prove that once again. So they couldn't even come
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: up with a holy watered down resolution about reopening the
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: Strait of Horn Mouz. Why, Well, because Russia and China
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: have a veto power and they vetoed it. So pointlessness
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: of the United Nation revealed yet again your reaction to
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: my assessment, Sir.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: It is pointless. And I've sponsored legislation every year I've
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: been in Congress to get us out of the United
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: Nations and to get the United Nations out of the
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: United States. There's you know, there are a bunch of
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: dictators that have veto power and sometimes it's just sort
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: of whitewashing things that shouldn't be done. There's, in my opinion,
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 2: there's no good that comes out of it. I'd get
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: us out of the WHO and frankly, I'd get us
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: out of NATO. They can put on their big boy
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: pants and take care of Europe. The European Union exists now,
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: they're united, and we shouldn't be subsidizing the defense of
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: socialism in Europe.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: Well, and this has been i think just revealed to everyone,
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: in spite of the fact that it seems weird that
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: we might want to get out of NATO. Oh my god,
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: we've been a number of NATO since after World War Two.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: There is no Soviet Union left and that's what NATO
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: has started to defend them against the Soviet Union. There
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: is a mutual defense agreement. And it takes a point
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: in time like now to find out they either won't
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: defend us, but let's just say they wanted to and
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: say yes, we'll come to your aid United States. They
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: don't have the military ability to do it.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: No, it's a Cold War relic. There may have been
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: a time immediately after World War Two where they still
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: needed our assistance to protect them during the Cold War,
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: but it doesn't exist now. There's totally different geopolitical reality
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: and they're on a different standing. They can support themselves.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 2: We don't need to be.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: There well, and I don't think that they would turn
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: their back on US as a trading partner, but we
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: would no longer have an author's z or we would
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: no longer have the obligation to defend them or them us.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 2: Do you have any And by the way, it looks
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: like they're you know, whether you're for the war in
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 2: Iran or not. They're not letting us use their Tonado
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: countries are not letting use their bases to well.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: Considering Donald Trump me could act in defiance of the
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: will whatever can we not since there are we control
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: the bases that are there, there are bases, and why
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: would we say capitulate and say, okay, Spain, we won't
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: use the bases to fly in and out for missions.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: We're just going to use the bases to fly in
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: and out for maybe maybe whatever. Can we just ignore
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: them and use them anyway and go ahead and fly
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: missions in and out of places like Spain where they
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: have said we can't.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: If you can't, what good is a milli military base?
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: If it's the mother may I thank you? I don't
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: get it. And by the way, I heard you say
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: something about data centers and I don't know if we
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 2: have time after the break to talk about that. There
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: have been some activity in Congress I wanted to report on.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: I'd love to hear it. We will bring you back
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: to talk about that. Maybe word or two on Pambondy
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: and question is the government still shut down? And whatever
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: happened to the Epstein files? More with Congress mass the
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: it's eight fifteen right now, stick around me, right back.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: This is fifty five chaos coming up. An eight eighteen
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: twenty five krcity talkxation Bright Times with the Congressman Thomas
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: MASSI of course judged out into Polatana after this segment,
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: and we are going to be talking later at the
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: talent of the program with Tom deweis doing a powase
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: someone on the dangers of AI and explosive growth of
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: data centers. You heard me comment on that, Congressman mass
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: You wanted to comment about legislation or activity in Congress
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: on that. So where are we going?
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: Well, they keep trying to pass a bill on AI
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: about every week in Congress. If one of these was
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: moving through Judiciary Committee last week and I helped kill it,
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: it was on the docket to be marked up. What
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 2: it would do would give AI data centers immunity from
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: lawsuits on environmental concerns, and it cited like eight federal
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: environmental laws that they would be immune from, stopping their construction.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 2: And my point is this, Look, I don't necessarily agree
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: with those eight federal laws. And if you wanted to
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 2: give everybody some relief from over regulation, I could be
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: for it. But to go in and to carve out
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: data centers and say they are now not subject to
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: these laws, that is cronyism. And so I was live
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: tweeting during the Judiciary markup about this bill, and I
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: had an amendment to try to change the bill, and
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 2: I live tweeted that, and they pulled the bill from
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: the docket in real time, and we never marked it up,
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 2: We never debated it because I had a few other
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 2: Republicans who were thinking the same thing as me. Look,
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: this is cronious. They also try to give AI centers
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: in the big Beautiful Bill. Marjorie Taylor Green and I
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: helped get this stripped out. They were trying to give
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 2: them authority that exceeds the local zoning laws and so
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: that your local community would have no say over where
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: the data center could go. And they're also trying to
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: give them liability immunity. Now they cloak all of this,
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 2: Brian In they say it's about national security.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: You're going to say that national.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: Security that China's building data centers. You know, our enemies
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 2: are building data centers, and so we got to build
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 2: data centers quicker than they're building data centers, and we
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: can't be bothered with the constitution.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: Well, they're also building coal plants and gas plants and
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: fossil fuel plants to generate energy. They're building nuclear plants.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: We're not because we've got all these environmental rules. Why
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: don't we stop that from happening? Congressome messy.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, and that's a big problem. I mean, the future
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 2: is energy, and you measure progress of civilization based on
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 2: how much energy you can harness and control. And China
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 2: is beating us on this. They're expanding their energy production
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: and we are not. And this is going to be critical.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: It's also a problem. You know, that's another problem with
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: these data centers. They come in, they consume water resources,
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: they consume electricity resources, land resources, and you know, these
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: are all things that are in short supply because of regulation.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: And they're trying to cut a swath right through these
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: regulations for these data centers, but not do the same
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 2: thing for everybody else. It's cronyism. And I just want
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: to let you know twice I've helped defeat it at
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: the federal level.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: Appreciate your efforts in that regard. Well, let us move over.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: I guess the government is still shut down. And it
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: was an agreement reached that Donald Trump supports. Democrats didn't
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: get anything for all their effort. They didn't get any
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: reforms on ice and so was this. I guess this
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: whole exercise was much you do about it nothing congressom messy.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 2: Well, it's still not resolved.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: You have to vote.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we still have to vote. Allegedly there's a deal.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: I have voted to fund DHS. A lot of people
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 2: say I always vote no. I've voted at least twice
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: here recently, I think three times on every DHS funding
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 2: bill that funds. By the way, it's got the coast
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: Guard in there as well. Yes, they moved the coast
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 2: Guard in and that's important. You wouldn't think it's important,
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 2: but it is important on the Ohio River because there's
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 2: some things that need to get done that only the
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 2: Coastguard can do, even though you don't see them a
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 2: lot on the river. So it funds TSA, it funds ICE,
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: it funds border control, and so I've been voting for it.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 2: They're playing it. This is like their little hot potato.
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 2: They're trying to get something for it, and we should
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 2: just fund it and move on. And there's you know,
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 2: there's a talk, there's talk about fund part of it
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 2: and then doing the rest of it and reconciliation, right,
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 2: which that could work. Yeah, I could go for that, however,
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: we get it funded.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll see what the vote turns out
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: and whether that plan moves forward. Because that sounds to
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: me like exactly what the Republicans are planning. We'd go
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: ahead and sign off on this. We don't fund DHS
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: because of course it's already been funded by the one
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: big beautiful bill, and then do reconciliation get everything we want.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: It sounds like a sound planned. Congressman Massy the Bondie issue,
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: I know that was on the list of things for
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: us to talk to. She's been released, and some suggest
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: that the reason that he fired top Ham Bondy last week.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: Trump did is part of his frustration that she had
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: not been more successful in prosecuting his political enemies. But
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: she has a problem, I mean she had a problem.
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: Efforts were blocked by courts and grand jury refused a case.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: So there's only so much that she could have done.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: Is that the reason she was let go? And can
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: Attorney General Todd Blanch she took over take a be
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: more successful in that regard? Or did this have nothing
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: to do with Trump's enemies?
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 2: Tell you what, nothing is going to change because Todd
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 2: Blanche was running the show anyway, and Pambondi was just
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 2: a face of DOJ. Now the one thing that does change,
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 2: and I pointed this out on social media, Todd Blanche
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: is now the one in the hot seat who is
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 2: legally responsible for not producing the Epstein files.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: Ah, we did get to Epstein.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 2: Yes, we did get to Epstein. Because they're still holding
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 2: probably millions of documents. I don't care what the actual
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 2: number is. I care about the types of documents they're withholding.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 2: I think you and I talked about this before. Briefly,
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: they're claiming deliberative privilege, which applies to FOYA, and so
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 2: they're not releasing certain documents. They say, we're involved in deliberations.
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 2: But the problem is my bill specifically says that they
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 2: must release internal memos and emails about decisions on whether
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: to prosecute or not prosecute, investigator or not investigate. Yeah,
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 2: that's what we want to know. Why did Jeffrey Epstein
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 2: get a light sentence in two thousand and eight when
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: they had him nailed to the wall. Why did they
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 2: let him go and let him recommit all these crimes
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 2: at a much larger scale. Why did they let Leslie
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 2: Wexner off after they had decided he was a co
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: conspirator in a sex trafficking case. Why are they not
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 2: prosecuting Leon Black, just Staley? These are all names that
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 2: show up their sufficient evidence in these files to warrant investigations.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: Why did they not do them? Well, the DOJ is saying,
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 2: they don't have to tell us what their deliberative process was.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 2: The spot of the law in spite of the law,
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 2: and this is, you know, this is a basic premise
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 2: of lawmaking. New laws override the old laws. And even
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 2: the judges, the federal judges in the Southern District of
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 2: Florida and the two Southern Districts of New York judges
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 2: said that the Epstein Files Transparency Act overrode Rule sixty,
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 2: which was preventing grand jury material from being released. And
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: they said, because the new law states the old rule,
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 2: the new law applies, and they released that material. The
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 2: DOJ needs to get with the program. You know, I
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 2: think any first year law student, probably eighth grade Civics
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 2: student in high school, would understand that new laws override
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 2: the old laws. This is a problem for Todd Blanche
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  Speaker 2: because he's still upholding us. By the way he says
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  Speaker 2: all the documents have been released, they're done releasing them.
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  Speaker 2: They're not going to release anymore. Well, that's actually false
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  Speaker 2: if you go back and look, I forced them to
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  Speaker 2: unredact some documents. We've forced them to release some more documents.
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  Speaker 2: Evidence of other documents that exist is in the files
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  Speaker 2: they have released.
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  Speaker 1: Reference to other documents that you don't have yet.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, like literally table of contents of the three
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  Speaker 2: h two witness interviews, and we know there's some of
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  Speaker 2: those that haven't been released.
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  Speaker 1: So anyways, back to court. Is it back to court
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  Speaker 1: to force them get an injunction, affirmative injunction demanding and
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  Speaker 1: enforce the release of all the documents.
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  Speaker 2: Well, one of the survivors would have standing, and so
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 2: they could take this to court where it would get adjudicated.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: It wouldn't survive five minutes. Their legal theory wouldn't survive
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 2: five minutes in a courtroom, and so we have to
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 2: find somebody who has standing and get it in front
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 2: of a court. That could work. The other alternative is
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 2: this is not a subpoena. This is not a congressional
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: committee that's compelled the release of these documents. This is
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 2: a law that saw both Chambers signed by the President.
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 2: This law. By the way, if I lose my election,
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  Speaker 2: which I don't think I'm going to, but if I
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 2: did lose my election, I will watch this law play
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 2: out for the next twenty years because the next Attorney
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 2: General can prosecute Todd blanche for not following this law.
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 2: It's a novel concept for Congress because usually we just
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 2: beg for documents and then when the congressional session is over,
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 2: everything then you just start a new fight and everything
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 2: goes away. This goes on forever unless they can repeal
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 2: the law, which would require both Chambers and a signature
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  Speaker 2: of the President.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, I hope you retain your seed, but
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 1: if you end up retirement, congressomescy. At least you'll have
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: something to have your popcorn out and to watch with
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: a big smile on your face.
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  Speaker 2: Real quickly. My opponent has turned down five debates with me.
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 2: He is scared to death to show up on a
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 2: stage with me. I would love to debate him any topic.
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 2: I've said. I'll even let Donald Trump moderate the debate
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 2: if he wants.
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, that would be interesting. Since Donald Trump has endorsed
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 1: your opponent. As we enter the primary, Yeah.
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 2: Conventional wisdom is if your head, don't debate. I am
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 2: ahead at my polls. I think there's some public polls
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 2: going to come out and show that. But I want
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 2: to debate this guy because we've he spent seven million dollars,
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 2: a billionaire's money from out of state to try to
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 2: fund a campaign where he stays in the basement and
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 2: doesn't show up. And I think the people deserve if
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 2: they got to watch seven million dollars at his commercials,
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 2: they should at least he should at least give him
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 2: thirty minutes on a stage and answer questions.
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  Speaker 1: Hey agree completely with that. Congresson Massey, It's rarely you
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 1: and I have a disagreement. Please have you on the
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 1: program as always. Keep up the great work. I wish
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 1: you the bet well.
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  Speaker 8: The Reds are eighting three, Yankees are eight and two.
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 8: Time to buy World Series tickets. I wonder which team
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 8: our next guest will root for in October Judges Next.
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  Speaker 8: Chuck Ingram on fifty five KRC The Talk Station, eight
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  Speaker 8: thirty two.
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  Speaker 1: Bold expression of optimism from Chuck Ingram As we walk
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 1: into the time of week here in the fifty five
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  Speaker 1: KC Morning Show, when we get the privilege, the privilege
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: of talking to Judge Entered of Poulton and welcome back
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 1: your honor. I'm going with Yank. I'm going with Yankees there, buddy.
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 1: I think that's maybe a safe bet when it comes
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 1: to who you're rooting for.
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  Speaker 16: Yeah, I think I think that's a safe bet and
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 16: a truism.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, and thanks to Chuck Ingram.
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  Speaker 16: The Yankees and the Dodgers are tied after just two
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 16: weeks for the best records in baseball. They're both eight
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 16: and two.
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  Speaker 1: But it's only April Prime. I know you read my mind.
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 1: It's early in the season, and we here in Red's
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 1: Country do realize that quite awful we get let down,
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 1: kind of like the Bengals as well. You're honor, interesting topic.
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 1: I like your column is always killing an indifference. We're
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 1: still on the topic of this whole constitutional state of
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 1: flux we seem in with regard to the war in Iran.
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 1: I was pleased to see that we're not annihilating the
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 1: entire population of Iran. This morning got some sort of
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 1: pause in fighting, although it really isn't. We can dive
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 1: on into that, but I sort of a parallel I
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 1: want to try to draw on the heels of my
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 1: conversation with Congressman Thomas Massey, who, by the way, says, hello, Oh,
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 1: thank you.
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  Speaker 16: I didn't I missed him. I didn't know he was on,
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 16: although I've been on air all morning so far.
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  Speaker 1: You're a busy man.
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  Speaker 7: Oh.
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 2: I bleed for him.
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 16: I would give him my blood if it would help.
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 1: Him to be re elected. Well, and he sounds like
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 1: he would give his iteth at least have a debate
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 1: with as a primary opponent who refuses to accept his
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 1: offer and into a debate. But the point being that
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 1: the law that was passed, the law the Epstein files,
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 1: he ordered, they Congress ordered it, Donald Trump signed in law,
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 1: produced the documents. Damn it. Well, they're still sitting on
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 1: a whole bunch of them. They're ignoring the law, claiming
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 1: this sort of this. I can't remember which specific privilege
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 1: is being asserted. But since the law to ordering production
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 1: is a newer law, it would supersede prior laws in conflict.
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 1: But they're not honoring the letter of the law. They're
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 1: sitting on documents and Blanche is now saying basically no,
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 1: in the same way BONDI said, note are producing more
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 1: how do we deal with a lawless government.
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 16: Well, there is no privilege because the statute eviscerated in
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 16: a pre trumped no pun intended lowercase to the existence
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 16: of any privilege. The only privileges that would apply are
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 16: those that are articulated in the statute, which would mean
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 16: the identification and other factors of identification and like who, what, when,
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 16: where of victims and any ongoing criminal investigations. It's inconceivable
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 16: there could still be criminal investigations on going.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's been dead for.
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  Speaker 16: More than five years, and five years as the statute
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  Speaker 16: of limitations. I don't know that mister Blanche will be
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 16: confirmed as Attorney General if he doesn't to comply with
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 16: the statute. I don't even know if he's going to
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 16: be nominated. He is the acting Attorney General, a position
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 16: from which he could be dislodged by a vote of
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 16: the Congress. They should bring him before the Congress put
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 16: him under oath. Attorneys general usually get the privilege of
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 16: not testifying under oath. This is more appearance than substance,
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 16: because lying to Congress as a crime, whether you're under
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 16: oath or not, Congress can lie to you, but if
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 16: you lie to Congress. It's a crime whether you're under
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 16: oath or not. But back to Todd Blanche, they need
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 16: to entear him under oath on national television because the public,
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 16: as Congressman Massy knows better than I, overwhelmingly supports the statute.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So in terms of standing, he mentioned one of
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 1: the victims, the Epstein victims could go into court and
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 1: demand the product of the documents, and that person would
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 1: have standing at least to bring it up. And as
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 1: his point, I think it's a valid one. It would
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 1: take about two seconds for a court to rule that
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 1: the documents must be produced because of the superseding law.
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 16: Well, four courts have already ruled that way, and the
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 16: government didn't take any appeals. Instead, it claimed it produced
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 16: to all documents. I don't know what Congressman Massey's number
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 16: is that have not been revealed. The number I saw
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 16: as forty five thousand I don't know if it's forty
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 16: five thousand documents of forty five thousand pages. The Attorney
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 16: General who supervised this has since been fired. The Justice
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 16: Department in a state of terrific disarray. It's best and
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 16: most experienced prosecutors, both at the national level that is,
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 16: those in main Justice in DC and also at various
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 16: US Attorney's offices around the country are gone. The DOJ
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 16: is now stooping to hiring prosecutors right out of law school,
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 16: which it has never ever done. It typically hires as
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 16: federal prosecutors people who've spent a few years as state
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 16: or county prosecutors, so they have the experience under their belt.
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 16: This is a dream for the criminal defense bar, and
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 16: it's a dream for criminal defendants. Because of this DOJ,
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 16: there have been no criminal trials in federal court in
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 16: New Jersey during Donald Trump's presidency. I mean that's unheard of.
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 16: The judges are just trying civil cases. There hasn't been
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 16: a US attorney until two weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And the whole idea of a fresh at of
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 1: Lass too law student person going into court and trying
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 1: one of these very complex, quite often cases, to me,
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 1: that's frightening. I was there. I know what it's like
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 1: to be a first year right out of law school
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 1: and you aren't worth a damn in terms of your
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 1: legal skills. I mean, I'd be painting with a broad brush.
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 1: You're honor, but they don't teach you the fundamentals of
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 1: actual trials and litigation and discovery. In law school, you
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 1: learn broader legal concepts, and you got to learn that stuff.
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 1: Hopefully you're a good law firm with an apprentice type
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 1: program like I was in, so you learn on the fly.
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 16: You're one hundred percent correct for people that are unfamiliar
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 16: with what we're talking about. Law school teaches you the basics,
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 16: and it teaches you enough of the basics to pass
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 16: the bar exam. It cannot teach you to be a
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 16: trial lawyer. You either have that instinctually and your colleagues
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 16: will bring it out of you, or you don't.
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 1: I would imagine that only.
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 16: Five percent of the lawyers who appeared before me instinctually
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 16: had those skills, knowing how to cross examine, knowing more
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 16: questions they asked, knowing when to stop asking asking questions.
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 16: You put a young kid up there against a seasoned
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 16: criminal defense lawyer, most likely him or herself a former
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 16: federal prosecutor.
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 1: Right, and the defendant's going to walk. Yeah, it's beyond
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 1: a reasonable doubt. And good defense lawyers can establish reasonable doubt.
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 1: They're good at that. Well, is the clock taking Judgentnapolitan
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 1: before we part company. Congressm Massi believes it is under
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 1: the War Powers Resolution Act sixty days plus an extension
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 1: of thirty meaning the deadline is five nine May twenty
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 1: ninth under the ninety day provision, and he explained what
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 1: happens then Congress must act. Is it your opinion that
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 1: we are operating under that timeframe? Clearly there has been
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 1: no declaration of war, So this sort of i'll call
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 1: it a gray area constitutionally and legally speaking, where are
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 1: we and what is your opinion on that judgement? Political?
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 16: Well, in my opinion, it is clearly a war because
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 16: of the nature of the violence visited upon Iran and
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 16: the extent of American assets involved in that industrialized government
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 16: of violence. Trump has denied that it's a war, probably
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 16: because one of his lawyers said, don't admit it's a
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 16: war because the clock is ticking. They'll probably also claim
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 16: to the two weeks ceasefire, which you'll find out the
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 16: say afternoon is not a real ceasfire right stops the
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 16: clock from running, it does not. I hope Congressman Massey
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 16: is right, because after President Trump's threats to annihilate a civilization,
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 16: I think you're going to find a lot less patience
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 16: in Congress than there was the last time they tried
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 16: to vote on this a few weeks ago.
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 1: I tend to agree with you on that question. And finally,
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 1: because you and I have discussed this before, and I'm
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 1: in complete agreement with you that the War Powers Resolution
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 1: Act nineteen seventy three unconstitutionally delegates the power of declaring
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 1: war to the executive bran Will this be tested in
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 1: court at this moment of time, since it's never been
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 1: tested in court, I.
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 16: Wish it would be tested. You know, somebody asked me
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 16: the other day, can somebody sue Trump for starting a war? Well,
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 16: you can sue, but it's going to be thrown out.
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 16: The last one of these lawsuits, this is very interesting.
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 16: I'll be very brief. The name of the case is
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 16: Goldwater versus Carter. We both know who they were. Barry
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 16: Goldwater sued Jimmy Carter to try and prevent them from
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 16: giving away the Panama Canal, and the case made its
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 16: way to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court said,
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 16: we're washing our hands of it. It's a political question.
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 2: We have nothing to do with it.
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 16: Don't come to us on these issues. Senator Goldwater, you
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 16: should know better. Wow, that's what will probably happen. I mean,
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 16: let's say there's an American in Tehran who was seriously
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 16: injured by an American bomb. Can that person sue the
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 16: federal government? You can file the lawsuit, but you're not
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 16: going to get the first base.
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 1: Yep. That's been typically the case standing. That's one of
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 1: the more complicated issues we got to deal with in
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 1: the practice law. Judge Ennen of Paulatan. I'll always appreciate
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 1: your insight, thoughts and comments. I'll encourage my listeners to
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the fifty five KRC Morning Showre're doing a
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  Speaker 1: and explosive growth of data centers.
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  Speaker 2: Good to have you on this morning, Tom, Well, thank
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 2: you appreciate that.
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 11: And yep, that's what we're going.
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  Speaker 7: To talk about.
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  Speaker 1: And by way of background, some of my listeners know
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  Speaker 1: you're one of the nation's leading evocates of individual liberty,
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 1: free enterprise, private property rights, personal privacy, your founder, your
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  Speaker 1: you serve as founder and president of the America Policy Center,
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 1: author to three books, and of course you've been voice
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  Speaker 1: and concerns over the radical agenda, the environmental movement, questioning
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 1: its motives, and that's something I do. And this is
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 1: where the environmental movement runs headlong into this race for
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 1: artificial intelligence. We apparently, and some people view this as
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 1: a global race. We are racing against China, for example,
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 1: to counter Beijing's global ambitions to expand its techno authoritarian
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 1: surveillance state and bolster its military power. We apparently have
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 1: to keep up, so everyone says, but this comes at
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 1: a tremendous cost. When you marry artificial intelligence with the
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 1: massive amount of power and resources they need to run,
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 1: we of course run into a supply of energy problem,
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 1: which hits the green people right where it hurts. How
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 1: do we resolve all this and what is the problem.
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 1: Do we need these centers or are we maybe getting
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 1: into a problem that your libertarian leaning seat least seemingly
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 1: are going to run headlong into.
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 11: Yeah, there's so many things to discuss on all this,
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 11: and the let me go to the environmental thing first
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 11: of all, because this shows the hypocrisy of the environmental movement.
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 11: For fifty years, they've been telling us that we have
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 11: to have open space. We can't even have suburbs in
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 11: our cities, and we've got you know, for the animals
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 11: and for the air to breathe and all of that.
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 11: And now all of that open area is starting to
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 11: be put under roof by these massive data centers, some
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 11: of the ten acres wide, and you know, just massive
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 11: in size. And of course then they always told us
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 11: we had to protect the water in the air, and
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 11: these this, you know what they're pushing on all this,
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 11: These data centers are using a huge amount of water
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 11: to keep all these computers cool and everything. And so
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 11: where are they Why aren't they in the beginning of
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 11: the fight, right on the front lines to fight these things.
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 11: And I've always said, and you probably have you been
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 11: fighting this, you know, it too. They really weren't about
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 11: the environment, they were about control. And this is what
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 11: we're up against. Well, now with these data centers, do
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 11: we need them? We're talking about you know, this artificial
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 11: intelligence AI that literally is changing and involved in every
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 11: single aspect of our lives. Everything you do, everybody you
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 11: associate with, everything you buy, everything you own, your transportation system,
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 11: everything all under in these computers to follow and see
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 11: what you're doing. And digital money, digital id uh, you know,
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 11: digital things for your health everything. Now, the thing about China,
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 11: you know they're telling us we've got to stay ahead
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 11: of them. Well, the fact of the matter is maybe
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  Speaker 11: it is something very useful for the military. You know,
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  Speaker 11: I think we're seeing right now of our military how
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  Speaker 11: it's operating using this kind of technology. Uh fine, But
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  Speaker 11: if what what would really give China power is if
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  Speaker 11: everything in our lives is in a computer and they
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  Speaker 11: have massive hackers that can come in and check all
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  Speaker 11: that out and take control of your money supply, take
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  Speaker 11: control of our electronics and everything, and we don't need that.
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  Speaker 11: The thing is, I mean that gives them the upper hand.
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  Speaker 11: What would put us in charge and protect us is
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  Speaker 11: that we are protecting people's privacy, we're protecting people's integrity
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  Speaker 11: and so forth.
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  Speaker 1: Tom, is that even possible in these modern times? You
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  Speaker 1: just pointed out that the Chinese hackers have infiltrated almost
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  Speaker 1: everything we know about infiltrations of our grid, and that
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  Speaker 1: exists independent of artificial intelligence. So saying we want to
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  Speaker 1: and I embrace the concept of perfecting our protecting our
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  Speaker 1: privacy and our freedoms and most notably the Fourth Amendment,
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  Speaker 1: which people seem to ignore anymore. But this is going
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  Speaker 1: on regardless. AI is out there in the world, and
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't look like it's going to go away. So
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  Speaker 1: are we maybe is it foolish for us to say, no,
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  Speaker 1: we're not going to go down that road because it
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  Speaker 1: does present these challenges and these concerns or civil liberties
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  Speaker 1: and our freedoms when the rest of the world seems
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  Speaker 1: to be moving in that direction. Aren't we just sort
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  Speaker 1: of creating an island of ourselves.
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  Speaker 11: Well, it would be an island of privacy and an
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  Speaker 11: island of independence, and we have got to protect people's privacy,
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  Speaker 11: their rights, their freedoms, and there's got to be some
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  Speaker 11: controls on this. I'm not saying ban AI obviously, that's
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  Speaker 11: not going to happen. But we need to have controls
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  Speaker 11: over how it's used, who's using it, and not have
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  Speaker 11: these massive data banks over every single thing you do
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  Speaker 11: in your life, including whether you buy BF or not.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the problem, I guess the other part, further
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  Speaker 1: problem is that we have voluntarily participated by handing them
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  Speaker 1: over all this information. Anybody that loads an app knows
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  Speaker 1: full well you give permissions. You have given them the
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  Speaker 1: permission to gather your information. If you use these systems,
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  Speaker 1: you are basically walking into a situation where you know
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  Speaker 1: they're going to take your data and compile it. This
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  Speaker 1: is sort of the reverse or well, or well at
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  Speaker 1: least you know when you look at nineteen eighty four,
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  Speaker 1: you had no choice, intruded and it sucked to be you.
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  Speaker 1: You had no liberties. But now we walk into this
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  Speaker 1: with eyes open, or at least stupidly walk into it.
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  Speaker 11: Well, I agree, and people were doing that, and they
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  Speaker 11: sell all of this under the idea of convenience. You
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  Speaker 11: do this, your life is going to be easier, and
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  Speaker 11: people are buying into that. They've gotten used to having
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  Speaker 11: their computer for everything. But we have got to start
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  Speaker 11: understanding where this is going, this is total tyranny and
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  Speaker 11: the pressure of these Silicon Valley companies and so forth
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  Speaker 11: what they're doing. One thing that we can do about
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  Speaker 11: this that they get control of it is control these
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  Speaker 11: data centers. And I'll tell you you know, over fifty
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  Speaker 11: years I've been in the fight for freedom, and I
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  Speaker 11: have never seen an issue grow so quickly of opposition,
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  Speaker 11: people starting to understand the problems. And I mean everyday
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  Speaker 11: there are new developments of people standing up and saying no,
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  Speaker 11: we have got to make sure that our local elected
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  Speaker 11: officials are not duped by these corporations who are telling them, oh,
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  Speaker 11: we're going to make a whole lot of new jobs.
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  Speaker 11: There's all kinds of money that's going to come into
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  Speaker 11: the community for this. That is not true. And they
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  Speaker 11: are destroying the energy system and our water supplies and
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  Speaker 11: all of that. We've got to get control of that,
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  Speaker 11: and individuals.
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  Speaker 2: Need to do that well.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously, the demand of power that these things create presents
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  Speaker 1: an opportunity. I've kind of viewed AI maybe as a
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  Speaker 1: gift to count of this ridiculous get carbon dioxide out
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  Speaker 1: of our atmosphere. Because of the amount of power they need,
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  Speaker 1: they need small modular reactors which don't have carbon dioxide
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  Speaker 1: but also produce an abundance of power. If you force
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  Speaker 1: them to provide their own power, maybe the region where
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  Speaker 1: the data center is can enjoy the benefits of that
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  Speaker 1: additional power, and we can throw these carbon dioxide crazies
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  Speaker 1: out the window. Flip side of courses, they can use
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  Speaker 1: AI centers as an argument that know, they're terror for
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  Speaker 1: the environment. We can't go down that road, which would
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  Speaker 1: be a benefit to the Chinese Communist Party and others,
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  Speaker 1: because we stick with the green agenda. So there's kind
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  Speaker 1: of like a two prong option there.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, definitely. I mean they're mixed up all the way around.
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  Speaker 11: I get an email every day. I'm not even sure
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  Speaker 11: how I got on the list, but it's from the
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  Speaker 11: promoters of all this. It's called What's in AI and
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 11: they try to counter us conspiracy theorists putting this stuff
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  Speaker 11: out there.
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  Speaker 1: Got it, Tom, I'm sorry, listen, Joe's give me the Harry,
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  Speaker 1: But we are out of time. So here's you got
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 1: so much unpackaged? Tomorrow night log in from home, be
• 2:19:39
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• 2:19:41
  Speaker 1: Empower Youth Studio. Either way, you do it just makes
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  Speaker 1: you're participating. Tom Dewiz Tomorrow night, empower you America dot
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  Speaker 1: or great speaking with you, Tom. We need to do
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  Speaker 1: it again, real soon.