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- 0:00French Polynesia has created the world's
- 0:03largest marine protected
- 0:04area, spanning nearly its
- 0:05entire exclusive economic zone, it's EZ
- 0:08at about 4.8 million kilometers square.
- 0:12The announcement happened at the United
- 0:14Nations Ocean Conference
- 0:15that I was at in France.
- 0:16I didn't actually see the announcement,
- 0:18but it was the big talk
- 0:19of the town and it marks
- 0:20a major leap in marine
- 0:22conservation efforts.
- 0:23We're going to talk about why that does
- 0:24it on this episode of
- 0:26the How to Protect the
- 0:26Ocean podcast.
- 0:27Let's start the show.
- 0:28Hey everybody, welcome back to another
- 0:31exciting episode of the How
- 0:33to Protect the Ocean podcast.
- 0:34I'm your host, Andrew Lewin.
- 0:34This is the podcast where you find out
- 0:36what's happening with the
- 0:36ocean, how you can speak
- 0:37up for the ocean, what you can do to live
- 0:39for a better ocean by taking action.
- 0:42On today's episode, we're going to be
- 0:43talking about the world's
- 0:44largest marine protected
- 0:46area.
- 0:46That's French Polynesia.
- 0:47They protected 4.8 million square
- 0:50kilometers and it's huge.
- 0:52And we're going to talk about why this
- 0:53happening and the
- 0:54significance of it and what's actually
- 0:55in the details of the NPA because a lot
- 0:57of times we talk about
- 0:58marine protected areas
- 0:59and PAs and as a lot of times
- 1:00they end up being paper parks.
- 1:01They're just for show and they don't
- 1:03really protect much or they
- 1:04get protected for a little
- 1:05bit and then they get rescinded.
- 1:07Some of it gets rescinded to opening up
- 1:08the fishing or there
- 1:09are some marine protected
- 1:10areas like in the UK that allow bottom
- 1:12trawling, which isn't
- 1:13helping the recovery of fishery
- 1:15species.
- 1:16So there's a lot to talk about here.
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- 2:14Let's get back into this great news of
- 2:17this marine protected
- 2:18area in the French Polynesian
- 2:19islands. So like I mentioned, total area
- 2:214.8 million
- 2:22kilometers, roughly 18 times the
- 2:24size of Great Britain. It's also fully
- 2:28protected. 1.086 million square
- 2:31kilometers is fully protected.
- 2:33And it's the twice the size of mainland
- 2:35France, 900,000 square
- 2:37kilometers of no take zones,
- 2:39220 square kilometers near the society
- 2:41islands and 680,000 square
- 2:43kilometers near the Gambier
- 2:45islands, artisanal fishing
- 2:47zones, 186,000 kilometers squared.
- 2:49So that means for traditional line
- 2:51fishing and small scale spear fishing.
- 2:54So for artisanal fishers only that's
- 2:56available to them and
- 2:57then broader protections.
- 2:58The rest essentially has limits of
- 3:00extractive activities like deep sea
- 3:02mining and bottom trawling.
- 3:03So there are just different management
- 3:06zones within this larger marine protected
- 3:08area, which is wonderful.
- 3:10So by World Oceans Day in 2026, there's
- 3:14going to be an additional 500,000 square
- 3:16kilometers that will be designated as a
- 3:19highly protected zone.
- 3:20And then this graduate rollout just shows
- 3:22that commitment to
- 3:24ramping up protection over time.
- 3:26So this is how it works.
- 3:27Really, when you start putting together a
- 3:29marine protected area and you do it
- 3:31properly like this one seems to have been
- 3:32done, you include people
- 3:34right from the beginning.
- 3:35So you include the people whose the water
- 3:37is important, the coastline is important
- 3:39to them from a cultural perspective, plus
- 3:41from a fishing perspective, from a
- 3:43community perspective.
- 3:44You also include like government
- 3:46entities, you include conservation
- 3:48organizations, you include scientists and
- 3:50other experts and traditional experts as
- 3:53well as part of that culture.
- 3:55And you all talk together right from the
- 3:57beginning and it may not be a smooth
- 3:59sailing kind of process.
- 4:00There's going to be conflict, there's
- 4:03going to be arguments, there's going to
- 4:04be times where you may not agree and
- 4:05people are going to have to compromise.
- 4:07Each side of every little thing of every
- 4:10ocean user is going
- 4:11to have to compromise.
- 4:12But when you do it properly and you set
- 4:14aside enough zones for everybody and you
- 4:17are able to make sure that this marine
- 4:19protector is going to do its job.
- 4:21It's not just going to be the world's
- 4:23largest marine protected area, but it's
- 4:24going to be the world's largest
- 4:26functional and
- 4:26successful marine protected area.
- 4:28That's what you shoot for. And to me,
- 4:31right off of this article that I saw in
- 4:33manga Bay news, this looks like this
- 4:36marine protected area is starting off
- 4:38right with the promise of an additional
- 4:41500,000 square kilometer protection
- 4:43designated as highly
- 4:44protected in 2026, only a year later.
- 4:48There's a lot to go into this, but this
- 4:50is really great. The president, Motaya, I
- 4:52think I'm pronouncing it
- 4:53properly, Motay, maybe.
- 4:55Brotherson emphasized ancestral
- 4:57stewardship and alignment with IUCN
- 5:00standards. So they're following all the
- 5:01protocols. So Aguilar, IUCN DG praise it
- 5:06as globally significant spotlighting how
- 5:08small island nations can
- 5:10lead in sustainability.
- 5:11And then conservation NGOs, including
- 5:13IUCN and the Pew charitable trust applaud
- 5:15the move. So Scott support from cultural
- 5:18significance and communities.
- 5:19It's got the praise of IUCN.
- 5:22It's got the praise of major
- 5:23organizations that help people in these
- 5:26communities be able to get the
- 5:27information, the resources that they need
- 5:29to do this type of work.
- 5:31And that's a Pew charitable trust as well
- 5:32as other like conservation international
- 5:34and so forth. There's a lot of other
- 5:35organizations that get involved.
- 5:36So now why is it matter to have this
- 5:39marine particularly? Why is it so
- 5:40important? So there's a biodiversity
- 5:42boost right after this. So you're
- 5:43protecting critical habitats so that
- 5:45sharks, whales, sea turtles, and some of
- 5:47the healthiest coral reefs recorded have
- 5:49protections, protections
- 5:51from extractive processes.
- 5:53Now, this doesn't protect these coral
- 5:54reefs or other habitats from climate
- 5:57change, but it does protect any kind of
- 5:59other human disturbance that's around.
- 6:01Now there's a cultural and livelihood
- 6:03significance of the ocean sustains
- 6:05Polynesian communities, both economically
- 6:07and spiritually. So the fact that
- 6:08importance went into the planning and
- 6:11went into the results of
- 6:12this protected area is huge.
- 6:14And then global leadership. This sets a
- 6:16bold example that only 8.3% of global
- 6:20oceans are currently protected fall short
- 6:22of the 30 by 30 targets.
- 6:23So there's a percent by 30 by 2030, but
- 6:26this helps bring it up to I believe it
- 6:29was almost 10%. So it helps just in this
- 6:31one marine protected area, but it's not
- 6:32just a marine protected area to say we
- 6:34have the largest marine protected area.
- 6:36It's a marine protected has zones, the
- 6:37specific zones to meet all the criteria
- 6:40that I mentioned earlier, the cultural
- 6:42aspect, the science aspect, the
- 6:44environmental aspect, right? And
- 6:46protecting it from future threats such as
- 6:48deep sea mining is really important here.
- 6:50So additional measures, so strengthening
- 6:52fisheries management with public input,
- 6:54just as I mentioned before, banning deep
- 6:56sea mining and fish aggregating devices
- 6:58will help and allow these populations to
- 7:02recover within this marine protected area
- 7:04and then spill over outside the
- 7:06boundaries to allow better fisheries in
- 7:09the future and more
- 7:09sustainable fisheries in the future.
- 7:11So obviously emphasizing community
- 7:13involvement and traditional ecological
- 7:15knowledge is really important in these
- 7:17processes. And that's what these did
- 7:18seeking international cooperation funding
- 7:20from like the Pew charitable trust and
- 7:22the IUCN having legal protections require
- 7:25enforcement support.
- 7:26So this really helped in that. And then
- 7:28looking at it comparatively to the
- 7:30Phoenix Islands protected area in
- 7:32Kiribati, which only covers approximately
- 7:34408,000 square kilometers, we're looking
- 7:37at an order of magnitude more and other
- 7:39MPA examples such as the Ross Sea,
- 7:42Papahana, Mokuakea, Coral Sea, none of
- 7:45which match the Antarctic Arctic scales,
- 7:48but these things are huge.
- 7:49This is the largest marine protected area
- 7:51to help out with those percentages. It
- 7:53stands out as the largest default and in
- 7:55its exclusive economic zone and it's EEZ.
- 7:57So that's a huge thing for French
- 7:59Polynesia. It's leading the battle and
- 8:01making sure that we
- 8:02protect the 30% by 2030.
- 8:04So essentially, on presses in scale and
- 8:07ambition, marking a new standard for
- 8:09marine protected area, including
- 8:11everybody in the area showing that you
- 8:13can have inclusive processes with a huge
- 8:17marine protected area, which really helps
- 8:18and almost its entire
- 8:20exclusive economic zone.
- 8:21It's a balanced approach conservation
- 8:23zones having sustainable traditional
- 8:25fishing allowing to happen and future
- 8:27planning for more protections, which will
- 8:30be great and it demonstrates an effective
- 8:31use of ancestral knowledge, strong
- 8:34governance and compelling
- 8:35model for other nations.
- 8:37This is huge. And the challenge now lies
- 8:39in the implementation, the enforcement
- 8:40and the global support. I think they'll
- 8:42get the global support. I'm not sure if
- 8:44it'll be financial. Hopefully it will be
- 8:45on an ongoing basis. There are different
- 8:47ways to fund these types of management
- 8:49practices in the future.
- 8:49I know the island of Newey that I had on
- 8:52a couple of years ago, actually working
- 8:54with Conservation International and the
- 8:55Blue Nature Alliance, they were able to
- 8:57almost like not auction off the property,
- 9:00but they were able to support like a
- 9:01square kilometer of marine protected area
- 9:04for the next 20 years.
- 9:04I think if you paid a certain fee, I
- 9:06think it was like $240 US or $240
- 9:09Canadian. I can't remember. But then you
- 9:11got to say, hey, you know what? I'm
- 9:13actually supporting this little piece of
- 9:15area for the next 20 years so that they
- 9:17can implement and enforce these
- 9:19management practices.
- 9:20And so it really helped by it with that
- 9:21global support, which I thought was
- 9:23great. So I think this is really
- 9:25important. Just imagine protecting nearly
- 9:275 million square
- 9:28kilometers of oceans properly.
- 9:30It's not considered a paper park or it
- 9:33probably won't be considered a paper
- 9:34park. I hope it's not. So I think this is
- 9:36really great. There's a lot of work that
- 9:37needs to be done in creating more marine
- 9:39protected areas, whether they be large,
- 9:40whether they be small, whether they be a
- 9:41network of marine protected areas.
- 9:43There's a lot more that we have to do. We
- 9:45still have 20 more percent to reach the
- 9:4730 by 30. And of course, we need to think
- 9:49beyond that. We need to think about near
- 9:51shore conservation. We need to think
- 9:53about offshore conservation.
- 9:54We need to think a lot more and making
- 9:56sure that the marine protect areas that
- 9:57we do have are not just paper parks that
- 9:59get implemented with better management
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