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Chuck & Buck 3-5 Hour 1: First Walker, now Shaheed... JP's defensive concerns and we are definitely in the simulation. · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 2: it with what's on tap here in a matter of moments.
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  Speaker 2: But yes, we launched this sucker here on this Thursday morning.
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  Speaker 2: What is happening here this morning? Anything anything in your world?
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  Speaker 2: Anything getting your way of enjoyment?
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  Speaker 3: No, no, today nothing has gotten in my way. I
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  Speaker 3: woke up a bit before my alarm, which then I thought,
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  Speaker 3: you know what, I'm gonna try the old Chuck Powell.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to get something extra done today.
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  Speaker 1: It does help.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't get anything extra done. Oh no, I don't
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  Speaker 3: need gas. Member. Oh yeah, electricity, it's already was plugged in.
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  Speaker 3: Uh so that was. But I still wasn't in a
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  Speaker 3: rush at all.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Now I still sped uh here even though I didn't
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  Speaker 3: need to. Yeah, just because you enjoy it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The thing it is, I think passing when I'm going
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  Speaker 3: past people versus getting passed by people. So but yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I woke up a little bit early. You know, it's
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  Speaker 3: one of those I usually don't like. I hate when
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  Speaker 3: you wake up thirty minutes before your alarm. Is gonna
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  Speaker 3: go off because you're like, well, now, if I go
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  Speaker 3: back to sleep, it's like that goes by in two
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  Speaker 3: seconds and you almost wake up feeling more tired. So
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  Speaker 3: this time I just said, screw it, I'm gonna get
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  Speaker 3: up early.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, I.
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  Speaker 3: Spent a little, uh, a little bit extra time at home.
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  Speaker 3: I actually sipped on a little bit more coffee at
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  Speaker 3: home before I hopped in the radio car and got here.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, no, nothing today has got into
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  Speaker 3: my way at all. Okay, just being a really really
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  Speaker 3: good Thursday.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, agreed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I'm kind of in the routine of just
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  Speaker 2: getting a little earlier.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of like it. I don't know why.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just naturally waking up now a little bit earlier
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  Speaker 2: and can't go back to sleep, so you might as
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  Speaker 2: well embrace it. I think that's that's where I'm at
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  Speaker 2: right now, in this mode. Let me ask you something
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  Speaker 2: before we dive into, you know, some stuff. But the
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks here this morning, so last night go out. I
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  Speaker 2: usually go out with the Unicorn to dinner on Wednesday.
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  Speaker 2: We have our spot and there's some regulars they have
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  Speaker 2: their spot as well, but they've got their thing and
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  Speaker 2: we've got our thing, and normally we don't cross over
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  Speaker 2: like conversations.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they're there every week.
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  Speaker 2: We're there every week on Wednesday, and it just seems
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  Speaker 2: like a really, you know, a good situation.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously they're having their thing, we're having our thing, and
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  Speaker 2: in the two rarely if ever meet. Well, yesterday we
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  Speaker 2: went to the to dinner and I show up and
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  Speaker 2: I always get there a little bit early because you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm with somebody that likes to feel rushed and I
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  Speaker 2: don't like to sit around and wait. So I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go ahead. You just get there whenever
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  Speaker 2: you want. So that's kind of the routine that we have.
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  Speaker 2: And so I'm sitting there and then our friendly neighborhood bartender,
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  Speaker 2: our regular bartender, she asks, you know, what are you
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  Speaker 2: drinking tonight? And I said, you know what, It's been
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  Speaker 2: a long time since I've had wine. But Amanda's just
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  Speaker 2: not drinking anymore. So I'm not going to order a
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  Speaker 2: bottle on a Wednesday night. So you know, fire me
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  Speaker 2: up some Woodenville bourbon.
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  Speaker 1: Let's do that.
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  Speaker 2: And the guy that is the regular that's sitting next
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  Speaker 2: to us, he says to me, well, you can have
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  Speaker 2: some of ours, you know, you know, and I'm like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 2: that's very very nice kind of you, very nice. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I really don't want to mix and you know, just
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  Speaker 2: having one glass of wine. I mean, I can't go
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  Speaker 2: from wine to bourbon, just as I just don't do that.
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  Speaker 2: But that is very kind if you, thank you so much.
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  Speaker 1: I really she ate that.
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  Speaker 2: About three minutes later, he tells the bartender there's that
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  Speaker 2: he did.
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  Speaker 1: He thinks the wine is bad.
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  Speaker 2: And I overhear this and she goes, what and then
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  Speaker 2: they have a conversation like, yeah, there's just something wrong
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  Speaker 2: with it.
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  Speaker 1: I think it sat out too long in the sun.
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  Speaker 1: Dude offered me bad wine.
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  Speaker 5: And he'd already drink it.
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  Speaker 3: Was such a thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's why you smell it first, Like usually
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  Speaker 2: there's nothing, but just in case, it's really a potent smell,
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  Speaker 2: so they have you smell the cork, like to make
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  Speaker 2: sure that it doesn't turn your stomach kind of thing.
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  Speaker 1: But here he is offering me like this was like
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was.
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  Speaker 2: Like the Hey, we've been sitting at the same baraw
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  Speaker 2: for a couple of years now on Wednesdays, you know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe it's time we meet each other and we mingle.
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  Speaker 2: And then three minutes later I find out the peace
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  Speaker 2: offering that he made was tainted.
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  Speaker 5: Oh man, that is a slick move.
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  Speaker 1: What the hell is that all about?
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  Speaker 6: So he was like trying to pawn it off on
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  Speaker 6: you rather, But what that is a that is a move?
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  Speaker 2: All right?
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  Speaker 1: How am I supposed to read that?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: That's a tough one because I was wondering like had
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  Speaker 6: they been had they maybe poured it in their glass
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  Speaker 6: but they hadn't tried it yet.
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  Speaker 1: No, No, they've been drinking.
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  Speaker 2: They've been there for a while, and it was sitting
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  Speaker 2: there and they had two different bottles because they're wine drinkers.
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  Speaker 2: They had two different bottles and they offered me, specifically
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  Speaker 2: the one that they were.
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  Speaker 1: Going to give away.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, we have not Maybe they're angry that I haven't
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  Speaker 2: had conversations with them in the past. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: But he offered me bad wine, bad wine.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like that is a no no.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe he's just trying to, you know, with pianist territory.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe he doesn't want you being a regular there.
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  Speaker 2: There is something to it because there's three groups of
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  Speaker 2: this this is other guy that looks like the lead
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  Speaker 2: singer for Midnight Oil. So he always shows up as
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  Speaker 2: well with his buddy, and he brings his own wine.
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  Speaker 2: So there's like three groups on Wednesdays, and we don't
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  Speaker 2: always arrive at the same time, but we're there almost
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  Speaker 2: every Wednesday, and there's really no mingling between the three groups,
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  Speaker 2: even though we're regulars. And I think it's just like
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  Speaker 2: I thought, out of respect for you're having your evening,
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  Speaker 2: we're having our version of our evening, and Midnight Oil
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  Speaker 2: is having his version of his evening and so so yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's what I thought it was. But I thought last
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  Speaker 2: night was like this extension of an olive branch.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe we should be friends or at least friendly. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: we should have conversations.
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  Speaker 5: We could bring wine and share it and leff ha.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not like I'm like no thanks, buddy, Yeah no,
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  Speaker 2: I was like over the top.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that is so generous.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for that offer you offered me
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  Speaker 2: bad wine peace offering.
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  Speaker 6: That's I don't know. I'm curious to know how this
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  Speaker 6: relationship is going to go moving forward.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really know.
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  Speaker 3: That's hotfoot.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we got home and Amanda's like, uh, you
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  Speaker 2: should you have said something?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my, I don't I don't really want to start that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad I turned it down.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad that the experience happened, so I know
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  Speaker 2: what I'm dealing with right now.
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  Speaker 6: I would have had to have laughed and been like, wait,
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  Speaker 6: isn't that the whine you just offered me?
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  Speaker 1: Should I have said that?
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  Speaker 6: I don't think it would have been bad to like
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  Speaker 6: to jokingly say it, like, wait a minute, isn't that
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  Speaker 6: what you just offered me?
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  Speaker 2: I wondered if I should say that, or I wondered
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  Speaker 2: if I was just like whatever, body and just let it.
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  Speaker 6: Go, or you could have gone, oh, it's bad, I'll
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  Speaker 6: take some.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, like joked about it, so they knew, like that
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  Speaker 5: was a little weird of a weird moves.
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  Speaker 1: It was a weird move. Yeah, we can all agree
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  Speaker 1: it was a weird.
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  Speaker 5: It was a weird move.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, I was just looking for what kind of
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  Speaker 2: some feedback on what I should have done in that moment.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you should do something like I said, a hot
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  Speaker 3: foot next week. I don't know, bubblegum on the hat.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe some EyeBlack on the inside of his hat something
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  Speaker 3: like that. You know, just some sort of prank.
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  Speaker 1: You could just him back.
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  Speaker 5: Bad wine tonight.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's all his pranks are baseball pranks. He's assuming.
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  Speaker 1: The guy's in full uniform with a hat on.
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  Speaker 3: And he just has shoes together. Yeah, light light his
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  Speaker 3: shoes on fire. It's all good, just like it's funny.
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  Speaker 3: You know what's a bad wine?
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  Speaker 1: You know what you should do as hide as EyeBlack.
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  Speaker 1: That's what you should do.
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  Speaker 6: We did get a text that said maybe he needed
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  Speaker 6: a second opinion, like maybe his wife thought it was
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  Speaker 6: bad and he thought it was good. But then I
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  Speaker 6: would have think what you're doing that you'd say, hey,
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  Speaker 6: would you mind trying this.
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  Speaker 5: Difference of opinion?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think he would just sneak it to
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  Speaker 6: someone and see what they think.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm offended. I just don't know how offended
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  Speaker 2: I should be. That's that's where I sat this morning.
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  Speaker 5: I think I just kind of laugh at it.
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  Speaker 1: I am not to bother me. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: go start a fighting next week.
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: I don't think you That was sort of the point
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  Speaker 2: last night, like Amanda was like, should you have said
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  Speaker 2: something and I'm like, well, I don't no, I guess
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  Speaker 2: I think I was in within my rights to say something.
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  Speaker 2: But do I really want to start that. I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to. I don't want to be friction. I don't
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  Speaker 2: want it to ruin our Wednesdays. Yeah, I don't want
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  Speaker 2: that to happen. I mean they're there almost every Wednesday.
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: We'll just keep ignoring them, you just like.
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  Speaker 1: We always have.
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  Speaker 6: Bring a bottle next time and put it down and
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  Speaker 6: be like I think this one's bad too.
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  Speaker 5: If you want to try.
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  Speaker 2: It, Yeah, you want to do? You want something down,
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  Speaker 2: you don't want it to end.
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  Speaker 6: But no, it would be in a funny way, like
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  Speaker 6: joke like hey, you know the bad wine last week.
• 10:31
  Speaker 6: Here's here's another bottle for you. And then you're showing like,
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  Speaker 6: oh look I'm a nice person. I'm bringing you a
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  Speaker 6: new bottle and joking that it's bad.
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  Speaker 4: Ah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd let him know that, you know. Yeah, really,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think there's anything wrong with that. You're a
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  Speaker 3: joking way like hey, I left this out in the sun.
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  Speaker 3: I heard you maybe want this one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah maybe maybe.
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  Speaker 3: I mean like something to where he understands that you
• 10:50
  Speaker 3: caught him trying to give you bad wine.
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  Speaker 1: Uh huh.
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  Speaker 3: So you still if he doesn't laugh at it, then
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  Speaker 3: it's on him. Yeah, he does laugh at it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We weren't sure it was that, but thought maybe you'd
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  Speaker 3: try to what the heck is it?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, which is is funny on its own, because you
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  Speaker 6: would never do that. If someone offered you wine, you
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  Speaker 6: just would have like, not really drink it if it
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  Speaker 6: was bad.
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  Speaker 5: You would never be like, ew, this wine's gross.
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  Speaker 1: Uh huh.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that on its own is a tough situation.
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: Interesting exchange.
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: We'll leave it at that, all right, let's get into it.
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: Almost every day this week we've led with ken Walker.
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to talk about ken Walker, but certainly
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: ken Walker is.
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: Involved in this story. We already are kind.
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: Of coming to grips with the fact that ken Walker's
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: gonna hit free agency and the Seahawks are up against
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: the clock. I suppose to keep him from free agency.
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: But there have been a couple of names that have
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: been thrown out there as we lead up to the
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: Frenzy to Tampa Fest on Monday of I mean more
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: than a couple. They're six guys, six starters really on
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks roster that could leave via free agency, and
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: two of the most prominently discussed our Walker and Rashid Shahed,
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: and yesterday's reports sort of suggests that both are gone.
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: Brady Henderson reporting I think he was the first one.
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: How much the free the agent of Rashid Shahed thinks
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: he's going to get in an offer. And we've been
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: throwing around fourteen million per year for Rashid Shahed and
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: we've treated that like WHOA, that's way too much. No,
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: I don't think we can pay that much. Well, according
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: to the story that Henderson broke yesterday, or at least
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: reported yesterday, that the request is eighteen million a year,
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: eighteen million a year for Rashid Shahed, that that's what
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: the wide receiver is looking for. So, I mean, I
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: think I think it goes without saying, at least on
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: this show, if we were questioning whether or not you
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: should pay fourteen then I would think we're going to
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: stiff farm the idea of eighteen million dollars for a
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: year for a guy whose replacement is already here. I mean,
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: Tory Orton is already here, ready to go under contract,
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: locked up for three more seasons.
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think that we have to today.
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  Speaker 2: I also acknowledge that Rashid Shahed, it was good knowing
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: you enjoy your Super Bowl ring. Thanks for your contribution.
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: But it kind of looks like it's.
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: Over, and understandably so if they're gonna if his agent
• 13:31
  Speaker 3: thinks the market out there is higher than what we've
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: been going, I mean, I was just going off spow track,
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: and we've said it pretty much every time that we
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: bring it up, but we don't know how accurate that is.
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: It's some people coming up with some figures, probably listening
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: to taking multiple sources of information and then combining them.
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  Speaker 3: I would to me, I mean, that's somewhere, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I was looking and I was seeing somewhere. I was thinking, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: fourteen million, fifteen million dollars, that would put him somewhere
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: in the twenty five to twenty six range as far
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: as highest paid wide receivers. I don't that means you're
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: number one wide receiver. He's not a number one wide receiver.
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: I don't think he thinks he's a number one wide receiver.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if you are, you're not on a very
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: good team. And this team certainly is not going to
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: pay him as if he's a number one wide receiver
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  Speaker 3: when they're going to be legitimately stepping up to the
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: plate and having to pay Jackson Smith, Smith and Jigba
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  Speaker 3: as such. So yeah, it doesn't seem like he should
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: be getting more than that. But if he is, then
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: you're right, it is audios.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I was very out of it that I wanted him back,
• 14:32
  Speaker 6: and I really like him and everything.
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  Speaker 5: At fourteen million, yea, let's do it.
• 14:36
  Speaker 6: But eighteen million, No, that just seemed I mean, and
• 14:39
  Speaker 6: I was listening to Softy in Dick yesterday and they
• 14:41
  Speaker 6: were breaking down just the amount of yards that he
• 14:44
  Speaker 6: had this yards yards.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: I think they pronounced it yards on that he had
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  Speaker 2: forty one.
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: Yards this season.
• 14:50
  Speaker 6: But and then try figuring out if he had played
• 14:52
  Speaker 6: for all eighteen games what that would have actually looked
• 14:55
  Speaker 6: like for the Seahawks, and it was not impressive. It
• 14:58
  Speaker 6: was like three hundred and seventy yards yards.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean you brought that up a lot,
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: like acknowledging that, Hey, I realize Shehed's making an impact,
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: but it's more on special teams. And that doesn't mean
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: that he won't with a full off season, a full
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: training camp. You know, Cooper Cup a year older. I mean,
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: if he came back in a Seahawks uniform, I'm sure
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: that he would be more productive in the passing game.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's a reason why there's a market out
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: there for him, and it's not just because he's a
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: punt returner.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: If somebody is.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: Willing to offer him eighteen million dollars a year, they
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: believe that he can really help the passing game. And
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: he's a young enough age that there's probably still some
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: room for growth and can get better, and certainly the
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: speed is there and things of that nature. So I mean, again,
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: good player, and I know that the Seahawks like him,
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: covered him, but you're also you're not going to pay
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: the price if the market's going to go crazy for him,
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: because there's a team out there that's just views him
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: as a difference maker. He was sort of like a
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: final piece to what the Seahawks were looking for. And
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: when you already have something similar that you don't owe
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: much to and there are lots of options out there
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: to add to your wide receiver depth. As we discussed
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: earlier this week when we did check yes or No
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: with wide receivers on the free agent market.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Sounded good when he was here. He sounded like he
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: loved being a Seahawk. It kind of felt like he
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: was one of those guys that was going to get
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: give a hometown discount. And yet when the rubber hits
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: the road, usually they do just go with the big
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: money Offerr. There's no chance that John Schneider is.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Re signing him at that value.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: I don't even think he was going to at fourteen million,
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: which again we were just you know, we were just
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: using from spotrek as a point of reference. Was even
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: I was even down on doing that. No way at
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: eighteen And by the way, you get draft compensation for
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: losing free agents. I'm not sure if one's tied to
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Rashid Shaid, but there is a there's a situation where
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: they only have.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Four draft picks.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: They let guys walk like Walker in Shihed because they
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: believe their market value is more than they want to give.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: You know, you can start stockpiling a few supplementary draft
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: picks in this process as well, so it's not like
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: you get nothing for him. So to me, I just
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: I didn't feel like John was going to be in
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: on Rashid Shahid to begin with. But if this is
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: his market, forget about it. It's nice, nice knowing.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Yet, yeah, I mean, just looking at the free agent
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: list of wide receivers, it's not a you know, who's
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: who list. I mean, Tyreek Hill's probably the big name,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: but obviously coming off of the bad injury. I mean,
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: they're just Juwan Jennings we've talked about. He's the highest,
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: like as far as kind of pro rated or what
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: people are thinking he's going to get per year. Alec Pierces, next,
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Wandel Robinson from the those are the top three. So
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: I mean maybe that's part of where his price is
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: going up if there's not a ton of answers out there.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: If you're like, boy, we got to go get a
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: pass catcher, right, and you know, there's just not a
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: lot of them out there. I mean literally on this list,
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: he's sixth on the list of guys as far as
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: what they would they think he's going to be getting
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: on the free agent market, and then you know, after
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: that it drops off significantly though from that fourteen thousand dollars,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, just a couple players down as Keenan Allen
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: now noticeably older, but a third of the price of
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: what you're hearing now that they're thinking, and that matters.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's why Walker's salary is probably going to
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: skyrocket because he's considered the number one running back on
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: the market heading into this offseason, So that does matter.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: You know, teams out there that believer she'd Shahead could
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: be our number two, when you're thinking about him being
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: your number three, then it does factor into it all.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: So it looks like that's not going to work out.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: And I mentioned this earlier this week. I think it's
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: ultimately like a Christian Kirk type. I think they will
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: add through free agency, some veteran depth, but somebody probably
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: in the five to nine million dollar range per year
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: versus over spending for a number three receiver because he's
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: great at returning punts.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and he is great at returning pain is, Yeah,
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: he is.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: But apparently Horton's pretty good at it too, exactly.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: So it looks like as we get ready for Tampafest
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: right now, the story is who the Seahawks are losing,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: because it looks like it's becoming more and more obvious
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: that Ken Walker and Rashisha Het are going to play
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: for another team.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Next year.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what's on tap for the
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: rest of the show.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: What's on TEP, what's on TEP?
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: All right, four days? I think my math was off.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, I think I said four days Yesterday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Yeah,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: four days now till Tampafest. We'll get our Tampa on Monday.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: We got full coverage for you of the first two
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: days leading up to the official beginning of the National
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Football League season and the free agency period opening. And
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: so a lot to discuss with our Seahawks insider this week.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: That's why we're having them on every day. Greg Bell
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: will be with us today at seven five. Yesterday in
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: the National Football League, couple noteworthy items, A really significant trade.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I go as far as a blockbuster,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: but pretty close as Trent McDuffie former you'db husky is
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: heading from the Kansas City Chiefs to the Los Angeles Rams.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: I hear this morning. The Rams are over the moon.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: They just love that they have landed this player. I
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: think they've already locked him up to an extension. So
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Trent mcduffee is now a Ram and somebody that the
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Seahawks are going to have to deal with on a
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: very good team to begin with. Stefan Diggs is not
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: going to be back with the New England Patriots next year.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: They kept him for one season. He was somewhat productive,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: ended up helping lead them to a Super Bowl appearance.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: But he is out at New England and I gotta
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: believe for all the off field nonsense that you got
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: to deal with with that guy, here's a hot take
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: for you.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to play in the National
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Football League again. I don't think anybody else is going
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: to touch him.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: And I know he's got a little bit of football left,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: but he's not a top flight receiver anymore, and I
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: think he might be poison this offseason to NFL teams.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: We shall see.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: We are on the eve of the National Hockey League
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: trade deadline, so we'll see if some activity starts to
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: ramp up. Usually the NHL trading deadline has a ton
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: of activity. We've seen a little bit this week. Nothing
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: from the Kraken. We will talk about it later on
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: in the show. Meanwhile, the Kracking lost. They can't solve
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: the Saint Louis Blues since they've resumed their season. The
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Blues won three to two yesterday. Robert Thomas, one of
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: the guys that the Kracking have been linked to in
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: trade deadline rumors, scored a goal for the Blues last night,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: who have defeated the Kracking two times out of two
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: since the Olympic break.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: And so not good. Not good.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: This team just cannot figure out how to get on
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: a roll.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: It's weird.
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: The odd thing with the Blues, they beat them eleven times.
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: I guess like they're eleven two and two against the Krakens,
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: so something I don't know what it is.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they must have the secret sauce.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Sounders will take on Saint Louis Saturday at six thirty
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: college basketball behind Hans Steinbeck's twenty two points and twenty
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: four rebounds. The Huskies defeated USC last night ninety one
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: to seventy two. The regular season finale for the Dogs
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: is this Saturday at eight o'clock. They'll play at Oregon
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: against the Ducks Mariners spring training nine to four loss
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: to San Francisco yesterday. They'll play the Padres today at noon,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: and apparently that's going to be on MLB Network if
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: you want to check that out. And the WBC is underway.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Got underway. Last night, US played another tune up against
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Colorado and won fourteen to four in that game. Yesterday,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: speaking of the Mariners, JP crawl Offford's defense came up
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: yesterday on the show with infield coach Perry Hill, and
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I thought he had a very interesting response to my
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: question about JP's defensive metrics.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: You'll want to hear that. We're going to discuss that next.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: It's Chuck and Buck getting started here on a Thursday
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRF. Hey, good morning,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: Welcome on Thursday edition of Chucking Buck in the morning's
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Another round of
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: check yes or No later on in the show as
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: we talk some free agency sort of.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Also, we'll play Beat Bucky.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: It returns today at nine o'clock, your opportunity to win
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: a prize and let's face it, beat Bucky at the
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: thing he loves most trivia. So that's coming up on
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: the show here today. Yesterday we had Perry Hill on
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: the radio program. We wanted to catch up with the
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: enfield Master, the mister Miagi of infield coaching. You know,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: he was out there standing the floor and waxing on
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: and waxing off all spring training.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Long.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, teaching balance. You must learn it, Daniel Son, if
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: you're going to be good at catching ground balls at
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: the major league level. But we didn't get a chance
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: to catch up with him during spring training. We were
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: just kept missing him for whatever reason. We certainly wanted
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: to chat with him because there's a lot to discuss.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: And one of the things we talked about with the
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: infield coaching master Perry Hill was JP Crawford's defense a
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: year ago. Again, typical solid JP Crawford defense at shortstop.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: The arm strength seemed to be waning.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he was dealing with something. Probably
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: was at the end of last year, but it just
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: it looked like on the surface, your typical solid defensive
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: season from JP at shortstop. But the metrics are killing
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: JP as of late. The defense metrics, the saber metrics
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: say his range is the worst in all of Major
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: League Baseball among starting shortstops. And so you know, saber
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: metrics are saying we don't have a very good defensive shortstop.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: And I asked Perry Ill about that very thing yesterday.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I thought he gave us.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: A really interesting response. I asked Perry to h to
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: respond to JP's critics about his defense.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Well, Chi, I don't know if you've ever heard me
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: talk about the box. I talk about the box a lot,
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: and that's that's uh. Many acted does a great job
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: of positioning the guys and so where Many puts them,
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: then we visually, I visually draw a box, you know,
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: like four steps to your left, five steps to your left,
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: four or five steps to your right, you know, six
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: or seven steps, And when I connect it make a box.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: We think because where Manny's put them that the ball
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: is going to be hit somewhere in that box. If
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: you make those plays in that box, the starting pitcher
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: will throw less pitches, he'll get to stay in the
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: game longer. You don't touch your bullpen. The game flows
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: a lot quicker, and you get to twenty seven outs
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: a lot quicker. So I know what the analytics say,
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: and analytics are important, but also is making the ball
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: that sit in that box, making it and out every
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: time is valuable in my opinion, And JP.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Does that Harry Hill yesterday with us right here on
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Chuck and Buck.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Your reaction to.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: That, well, I mean I've been saying for the last
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: couple of years that I don't mean it's obvious that
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: JP is not the most explosive shortstop. He doesn't have
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: the most range. As matter of fact, it's I mean,
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: the fact that the analytics coming out saying it's the
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: worst range doesn't surprise me. But he typically makes the
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: plays you need to make. I mean, you've got to
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: think about, Okay, if you're talking about the best range
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: versus the worst range, you're talking three feet maybe on
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: either side, which is a lot, but how many of
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: those balls actually how many balls go in that three
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: foot that Bobby Junior gets and JP doesn't get to
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: And so yeah, I mean you would want somebody that
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: can do at all. Right, that is, has the most
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: range and the best arm and can do all of that,
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: but the difference between it, I mean, if you start
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: looking diving into the analytics, last year was his worst
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: year as far as his run value that his defense
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: brought to the table at minus nine minus nine over
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: the course of almost fourteen hundred innings, means he cost
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: the team. His range or lack thereof, costs the team
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: a run every one hundred and fifty four innings, so
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: every seventeen games. Over seventeen games, he cost you one
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: run defensively, his range does. So it's just that's what
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Perry's saying is, Okay, we'll give up that one run
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: every seventeen games because we think what he does when
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: it's not on the fringe of his range, when it's
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: not a ball that somebody else could have got to
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: but he couldn't, he makes those plays as much as
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: most of them do. I mean, he's not the best
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: with his glove, but he's he has played at a
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Gold Glove caliber before as far and I think that
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: was he wasn't crazy rangey then he just made all
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: the plays that year.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Well, I think that's I think that's the argument though,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: that people that dive into the metrics would make. It's
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: like there are rangey shortstops out there who also.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Make the routine place. I mean, maybe.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Elie Dela Cruz and CJ. Abrams are like the exceptions.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Those guys just make way too many errors on the
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: routine balls and it probably doesn't make up for how
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: athletic they are and how rangy they are. And so
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: that's the question, does his steadiness does that make up
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: for the lack of range, And I think metrics people
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: would tell you, you know, because he did commit thirteen
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: errors last year, so it's not like he was foolproof.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: He wasn't cal Ripken out there. Cal Ripkin didn't have
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: great range at any time during his major league career,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: but he also had a season where he never made
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: an error, you know what I mean. So the does
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: the solid defense? Is your solid defense so exceptional that
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: it makes up for the fact that you don't get
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: to as many balls as all other shortstops in Major
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: League baseball?
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: My guess is no.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: My guess is there probably is an issue there. Can
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: we live with it for another year with this good
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: of a baseball team and with JP Crawford's leadership out
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: there and the fact that cold Emerson might not quite
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: be ready, Yeah, we can live with it for another year.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: But I don't think there's any doubt about it that
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: this is an issue.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: And I do.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Appreciate the explanation that Perry Hill gave, and I get
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: we can live with it. As long as he makes
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: the routine plays, we can live with it.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I get that.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: But I also think there's some loyalty here to JP.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: The salary that he makes and other and other issues
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: that come into play. I don't think he's a very
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: good shortstop, and even though he makes the routine plays,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that makes up for his lack
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: of range. That's just the brutal, honest response that I have.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I I mean it's fair. There's is there
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: room for improvement, yep, But I don't think he can
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: improve at that him. People can improve. Oh, I see
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: what you mean. Is their room for improvement as far
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: as a replacement player a shortstop, most certainly? But is
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: it is this a achilles heel that you're you can't
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: be a World Series contending team with him?
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: There?
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: No, not my many stretch. I mean, ultimately, you just
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: watch if JP does what JP should do, which is
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: at the dish, take some pitches, grind out AB's, don't
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: swing out of your ass thinking your home run hitter
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: all the time, use the whole field. Be pesky, you know,
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, run the bass smart because you're not fast,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: so you can't You're not going to be a nuisance
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: on the base pass. But you can be smart running
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: the bases and then defensively make all the plays. Because
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: it's last year was his worst year as far as
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: the success rate of plays in that box as well,
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: since he's been a Mariner. So I mean when he
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: was a gold glove, when he won his gold glove
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: back in twenty twenty, I think is when it was
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: it was like he was ten percent better success rateed
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: I mean eighty two percent versus seventy two percent. That's
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: talking about the balls you get to that you have
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: to make those plays. That's a drastic drop off. And
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: that is one where what Perry Hill is talking about
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: is the trickle down effect or the ripple effect of
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: you making the plays in the box is huge. If
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: a pitcher doesn't have to get four outs in an inning,
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: thirteen errors is more than what you want out of
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: your short stop for sure. But we're not expecting necessarily
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: to be perfect. It's just you gotta be You got
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: to be good. If there's other aspects of your game
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: that are not even are they not good, but they're bad,
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: your range is bad, then you got to make every
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: play or damn near every play, And so a drop
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: off in success rate last year. He's got to clean
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: that up a little bit. But really, for the most part,
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: it's not something that I'm drastically concerned about it. But yeah,
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: you can definitely improve it, and I think they're planning
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: on it in the next year.
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: Well, he could at least improve his throws to first base.
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: I mean, yes, that's one thing he can work on.
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: So maybe his range can improve, but at least getting
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: the ball to Naylor in a you know, without Naylor
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: having to do the splits every time or jump seventeen
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: feet in the air, that would be helpful.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there was something wrong at the end of the year.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I don't think it plugged him all season long. We
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: remember it with Naylor because it was the end of
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: the season when Naylor was our first baseman. You're right,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: that has to be improved. There's no excuse for that.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: If he can't make the throw, he shouldn't be our
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: short shout. But there is no improving the range at
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: this point. I mean I pointed this out to you
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: in the playoffs last year. I'm like, look at how
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: short his lead is off first base. Hey, he is
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: so scared of his lack of side to side mobility
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: and quickness that he won't get more than a foot
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: off first base with his lead because.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: He doesn't even want to entice a throw over to first.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: He didn't even like to move side to side.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, so I think, I mean, that's not going
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: to improve. I mean he's lost a step and he
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: really didn't have a step to lose.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: He looks fast.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: When he just is going from first to home on
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: a double in the gap, he looks fast. He's never
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: been fast, and really he's just not quick enough to
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: play the position at a high level anymore. But I yeah,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: you're right. I mean, at the bottom, at the base
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: of it is that I think he is our best
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: shortstop right now to help us win a World Series,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: and so he's going to be our shortstop this year.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: I'd pencil him in on opening day as our shortstop
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: and not have two seconds of hesitant.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean, I don't think there's any doubt that.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: You know, we got some youngsters, you know, cold Emerson
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: being number one that is kind of nipping at his
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: heels right now. So he doesn't have it's not even
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: this year. As much of a veteran as he is,
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: and the total package he brings to the table understanding
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: how to play the game, he's your starter and he's
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: gonna be your starter. For this season. But boy, if
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: he's if he goes into one of those funks that
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: he goes into sometimes because he wants to swing and
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: los his helmet every time, thinking that he's, you know,
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: spudge up there, then then he's he's got a kid
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: that could come up and sniper that from him. And
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: he's most certainly more explosive defensively.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: And I think that's an important point to make.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: We're no longer in this at this stage of just like, oh,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: we're gonna stand on ceremony here or stand on business. No,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: this is about we're in a championship window and JP's
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: gonna get be given every opportunity. But I'm telling you
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: right now, if by the end of the year, when
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: the games matter the most and you're getting into the playoffs,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: better not be starting JP c offered if he's not
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: our best shortstop in the organization just out of sentimentality, Yeah.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: The expectations are too high.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I mean, this is about winning a World Series,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: and if by the end of the year, cold Emerson's
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: our best shortstop, cold Emerson better be playing shortstop.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: That's the way I feel, all right.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Coming up next, probably the strangest story, not just sports story,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: but strangest story you've ever heard. Sports Radio ninety three
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• 35:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, sounds like a perfect plan of me.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: A fun adult. Yeah.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: All right, Let's talk about something that I don't think
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: either one of you are going to believe, because I
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: still can't believe it.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Have you heard of the story of Brady Fagel.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: No, all right, There is a pitcher in the minor
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: leagues by the name of Brady Fagel, ginger type, six
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: foot four, shocking red hair, shocking red beard, he wears
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: thick glasses, and he's been in the miners for a
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: little while.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Turns out, though, what's interesting about Brady Fagel is that
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: there is another Brady Fagel in minor league baseball who
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: is also six foot four, with red hair, a redbeard,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: thick glasses, and has the exact same birthday as the
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: other Brady Fagel. No way, not born on the same day.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: They were born a year apart, but they look like
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: identical twins, so much so that one time their paperwork
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: got screwed up. So one of the Brady Fagels was like,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: what's going on with this, and then he finds out
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: he learns about the other Brady Fagel, and then all
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, people were like, you have to be related.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: You had to have been has split up at birth
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: or one of you got adopted. They did DNA tests
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: on him, and there's no relation.
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: That's so crazy.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: They're not brothers, they're not cousins, they're nothing. I mean, certainly,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: the Fagels at some point there was a mighty, mighty
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Fagel who spawned a lot of seeds that probably looked
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: like Papa Fagel, and so I'm sure that there is
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: a relation at some point in the family tree, but
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: it's nothing that DNA tests picked up on. And so
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: there are two identical looking people that play baseball that
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: are the exact same size and of the exact same name,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: even though there is no connection between the two of them.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Explain that to me.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: I don't know if there's an explanation. I don't. I
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: mean I saw that, I don't know it a while
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: a little while back, and it doesn't even you would
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: have to think for sure, I mean, these two people
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: would have to think for sure that they're related. Once
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: they found out that there's there. This isn't just a doppelganger.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's like you are. They look more like
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: brothers than me and my brother look like brothers, and
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: we look like brothers, you know what I mean? Yeah,
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: I mean like they There's a lot of people that
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: have a sibling, a legitimate, full blown sibling that doesn't
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: look as close as these guys, no way.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: And it's not just because.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: There's the people that look, there's a twin, oh yeah,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: look that don't look that much less like yeah, exactly,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: so crazy.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: And then the fact that they're both the same name. Okay,
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: that's just freaking in and of itself, right, I mean,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: a lot of people have the same name. Right, there's
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: probably another Chuck Bowell out there. Ye sure chances sorry
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: doesn't look just like you.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: There was one that was a realtor in Arizona.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Oh so he was a sports talk host, because that
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: would be odd, right if he looked just like you
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: and he did the same job as you. Right, Okay,
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: now we're getting into freakiness, right, And it's like, okay.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: And that's what we're dealing with here, like two people unrelated,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: as DNA tests have confirmed, and yet I mean, they
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: may always tell you there's somebody out there in the
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: world that looks exactly like you. Haven't you always heard
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: that and you just never meet them. Well, here are
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: two guys that both play minor league baseball. You're apart,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: same birthday, same name, same size, same everything, and yet
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: they're not related.
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: It's baffling. Like I'm looking at these the pictures right now.
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: One Brady Fagel looks like the younger version, like the
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: before the other Brady Fagel lost his baby fat, like
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: and then he got all chiseled.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: That's but that's how they.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Even have like the same beard. Yeah, and you know,
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: like like they both have the same bad vision, They have.
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: The same nose.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: They chose the same style of glasses independently.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Of one another.
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they have the exact same nose.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's something you're not the freakiest thing you've ever heard.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: Something the simulation people would think is part of their conspiracy.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: There's all a simulation. This is just a glick glitch
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: in the matrix.
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: They're like, oh, crap, we already made one of them.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Now what well his mom and dad are they're already attached.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, I mean, that's some freaky, deaky stuff
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: right there. I thought it was one of those like
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: I because the Unicorn pointed it out to me and
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: I never heard of it before, and I'm like, I
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: think that's an April Fool's joke. Make sure you check
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: the date on that, because I think somebody is yanking
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: your chain. But it turns out there are two Brady
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Fagels out there. Turns out it's a legit story. Is
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: that not crazy?
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: It's crazy?
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: But that was worse some Maritimes.
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: And they both play I think minor leagues in the
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: al Wes. Is that right?
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: Or they used to at least I have one has
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: an a sweatshirt on in a video and the other
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: has a Rangers hat on.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Coming up next Headlines plus Greg Bell Sports Radio ninety
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