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The Real House-LIES of Orange County: Recap with Alexis Bellino · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
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  Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
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  Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
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  Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, rain drops.
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  Speaker 1: On today's episode Reality with the King, we have to
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  Speaker 1: talk about the latest episode of the Real Housewives of
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  Speaker 1: Orange County. But look, I feel like because her name
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  Speaker 1: keeps getting mentioned, I might as well break her back
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  Speaker 1: to another recap because I feel like she's the elephant
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  Speaker 1: in the room. Not calling her an animo, but listen,
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  Speaker 1: it's a Metaphor give it up for my friend, the
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  Speaker 1: beautiful the woman. Listen, what's the name of that restaurant
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  Speaker 1: that is popular the OC Is it the woman in
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  Speaker 1: the Room or something?
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  Speaker 2: I'll ask me she hops on.
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  Speaker 1: But anyways, give it up for my friend, the one
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  Speaker 1: that keeps getting talked about.
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  Speaker 2: She might as well defend herself. Alexis Ballino.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, Hello.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Alexus, How are you guy? How are you good?
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  Speaker 2: What's the name that I resta around the o C
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  Speaker 2: that everyone goes to. Is it the Woman in the
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  Speaker 2: Room or something like that?
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  Speaker 3: I hate Carlos.
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  Speaker 4: I met John there. It's called the Quiet Woman. The
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  Speaker 4: Quiet Woman. She's headless. It's it's a nun fact. You
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  Speaker 4: have to know these things about me, You know that.
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  Speaker 2: I know the look.
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  Speaker 1: I recapped so many Bravo shows and reality shows that
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  Speaker 1: the name sometimes splits my brain.
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  Speaker 2: But baby, you're not slipping anyone's brains.
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  Speaker 1: So let's get into the latest episode of the Real
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  Speaker 1: housewatch of Orange count Look, let's just get right into it.
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  Speaker 1: This episode continued where Shannon is confronting Katie about her
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  Speaker 1: being illegally recorded, and she's very upset about it.
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  Speaker 2: One thing I thought that was interesting is this, obviously.
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  Speaker 1: The recording was audio, and you clear that up on
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  Speaker 1: this very podcast, thank you very much. But Katie is
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  Speaker 1: mad at Tamara, and so it's jin because they feel
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  Speaker 1: like it's Tamara's fault that all of this is happening,
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  Speaker 1: because she's the one who told Gina I'm confused and
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  Speaker 1: I want to get her thoughts on Miss Alexis, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like this love Tamar, hate her.
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  Speaker 2: She's great television.
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  Speaker 1: However, I still blame Katie for doing the action. Now,
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  Speaker 1: should Tamar have kept her mouth shut? Look in a
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  Speaker 1: life that isn't a sort of like reality show about
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  Speaker 1: the subverb area of OC. Sure, but Tamra is a gossiper.
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  Speaker 1: It sas everybody in that town. So I feel like
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  Speaker 1: Tama was being Tamra. I don't understand why everyone's blaming
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  Speaker 1: Tamar for repeating, not even repeating, for telling Gina what
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  Speaker 1: happened when.
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  Speaker 2: Katie is the one who did the actual action. What
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  Speaker 2: are your thoughts on that, Alexis.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I definitely think that in a world where you're
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  Speaker 4: not felding a reality show, it probably would not have
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  Speaker 4: gotten brought up. Maybe you would have, But we are
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  Speaker 4: gossipers around here in the ESCA. It seems like and
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  Speaker 4: it's such a small world, but it is. It's Katie's actions,
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  Speaker 4: but it's also Shannon's acton Shannon's the one that was
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  Speaker 4: doing the ridiculous for heavire, Katie was. I don't think Katie,
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  Speaker 4: to be honest, I don't think Katie was being malicious
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  Speaker 4: at all. I don't think she was recording this thinking
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  Speaker 4: I'm I'm recording Shannon because I want to be evil.
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  Speaker 4: I think she literally because I was friends with her
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  Speaker 4: at the time. Obviously this has changed now, but she
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  Speaker 4: literally told me. And the reason she was upseted because
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  Speaker 4: she was on a business call with her husband. She
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  Speaker 4: wanted to be able to say, guy, this is why
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  Speaker 4: to jump off, and so she said it to her husband,
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  Speaker 4: not in an mosious way, and it just happened to
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  Speaker 4: you know, get out into the world. But yeah, those
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  Speaker 4: are my thoughts. I don't think Tamia should have done
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  Speaker 4: anything to the group, though I don't. Uh, who knows
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  Speaker 4: if it wouldn't have come out in another way. You know,
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  Speaker 4: Katie didn't share it with other people. She did, She
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  Speaker 4: did share it with other people.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I mean listened, she did.
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  Speaker 1: And look, when it comes to Katie, Alexis, I gotta
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  Speaker 1: be honest with you. I've tried so hard to find
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  Speaker 1: a deeming quality about Katie.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard. Like after you eat a red velvet cake
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  Speaker 2: and you're trying to put in your skinny Jee's, you're.
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  Speaker 1: Just like strugg league to like fasten the button and
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  Speaker 1: everything else. That's how hard it is for me. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's voice to men. It's hard to say goodbye Hard.
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  Speaker 1: It's Rihanna's album Hard featuring g Z.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard for me.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, you are doing a lot of good Metaphods today.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. I had a cup of Joe.
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  Speaker 1: Well, but you did say to me the last time
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  Speaker 1: he spoke like, no, Carlos, Katie's a good girl, blah
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  Speaker 1: blah blah.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, I trust my friend Alexis Billino. But
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  Speaker 2: Alexa is like, what is it about Katie that's a
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  Speaker 2: truth syrup. I think she's a lie. You lie your
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  Speaker 2: pants on fire.
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  Speaker 3: It's the wrong day to talk to me about Katie.
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  Speaker 4: After last night's stent on and watch what happened li
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  Speaker 4: where she's now is calling me a liar and saying
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  Speaker 4: I didn't hear the voice memo. Why am I gonna
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  Speaker 4: lie about that? And why is she lying about that?
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  Speaker 4: Like if that is there's no benefit. Everyone knows there's
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  Speaker 4: a voice memo. Why are you gonna lie and say
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  Speaker 4: you didn't share it with people that you did share
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  Speaker 4: it with.
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  Speaker 3: It's just this, this line makes no sense. I get this.
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  Speaker 4: She's trying to cover her bum and other live this
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  Speaker 4: one to me is just a ridiculous one. And I
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  Speaker 4: would have defended her like I did last you know,
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  Speaker 4: last time week we spoke on your show, on your podcast,
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  Speaker 4: I was like, she's a sweet girl. I don't I
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  Speaker 4: don't see what all the other girls see this and
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  Speaker 4: that I can't say that now Now she's burnt my
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  Speaker 4: birds too for no reason.
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  Speaker 3: So I it's a wrong day, Carlos.
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  Speaker 4: I want to be she's funny. I'm not gonna I'm
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  Speaker 4: not gonna say she's not funny. She's funny and witty
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  Speaker 4: and and I just think she has a really really
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  Speaker 4: bad relationship with the truth.
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  Speaker 3: Now I have to Okay, then the other girls.
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  Speaker 1: So uh, I'm sorry, guys, that's me gagging and I'm
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  Speaker 1: literally wiping the saliva from my cheeny chin chin.
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  Speaker 2: So wait a second, Okay, so watch what Happens Live.
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  Speaker 1: You're saying that Katie said that you're lying about receiving
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  Speaker 1: the audio, that she never sent it to.
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  Speaker 4: You, Andy Cohen asked her last night. Okay, so this
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  Speaker 4: is hours later that I'm still steaming from being paul
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  Speaker 4: a liar basically, and you can call me a lot
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  Speaker 4: of things, Carlos. Okay, I'm I'm John's defense team. I'm
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  Speaker 4: dippy sometimes on camera, I'm you know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I I eat weird, I talk weird. Whatever you can say,
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  Speaker 3: any of those.
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  Speaker 4: Things, you will get through this life. Calling me a
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  Speaker 4: liar because I don't lie. Okay, it's the one thing
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  Speaker 4: I can have going for me here anyway.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, Andy.
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  Speaker 4: Cohen asks her, did you I'm confused, who all did
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  Speaker 4: you share it with?
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  Speaker 3: And share with Alexis?
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  Speaker 4: And Katie goes only so and so and points to
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  Speaker 4: some guy in the audience, and I'm sitting there with
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  Speaker 4: my mouth dropped open, and I'm like, first of all.
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  Speaker 3: I heard the recording. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: We were sitting at a restaurant solo Babe, right across
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  Speaker 4: the street from my house. I can remember where we
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  Speaker 4: were seated because the table next to us had some
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  Speaker 4: Bernette women there, and I was like, Oh, this is
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  Speaker 4: juicy stuff for them. I hope they're not. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, listening, so I have re turn it down.
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  Speaker 4: My name's being mentioned every other F bomb because Shannon's
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  Speaker 4: upset and yelling at an Executi Bravo that you should
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  Speaker 4: not be yelling at like you don't yell at Bravo executives.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, and so I'm my mouth's wide open.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just like, oh, for the Alexis is here, doesn't
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  Speaker 4: me mental health? How dare you know this? And that
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  Speaker 4: that's the recording? I heard the recording. Okay, So I
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  Speaker 4: don't know why anyone would want to lie about it
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  Speaker 4: and just own it.
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  Speaker 3: You already owned it and said you have it, So
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  Speaker 3: why are you going to try to say you only.
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  Speaker 4: Share it with your oh sorry, your makeup artist or
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  Speaker 4: whatever whoever she said in the audience.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, there's the tea. You wanted, the tea, you got
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  Speaker 3: the tea.
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  Speaker 4: Carlos, I'm going into witness protection program.
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  Speaker 2: Once again. Listen, listen once again. Carlos King is vindicated.
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  Speaker 1: Just like I said to all of my rain drops,
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  Speaker 1: gar Cell and Sell and by the way, they unfollowed
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  Speaker 1: each other this week, Alexis, get the care. I'm the
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  Speaker 1: one who said I don't believe the friendship. I thinks
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  Speaker 1: the alliance. I did apologize to that Garcel. I love
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  Speaker 1: them both, but I said I'm sorry because I offend
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  Speaker 1: you guys. I'm sorry, But then they unfollow each other.
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  Speaker 1: I'm vindicated, I said, since since since episode one season nineteen,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, there's something about Katie.
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  Speaker 2: No, not Mary, shout out to.
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  Speaker 1: My girl camera, diask there is something about Katie, the
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  Speaker 1: enigma that is Katie.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't believe her.
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  Speaker 1: And and some fans like, Carlos, shut up, You're You're
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  Speaker 1: in a Lexa Tamra's asshole, and I'm like, don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I'm Summer's.
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  Speaker 3: Even Okay, So I don't hear.
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  Speaker 2: Mine is mine?
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  Speaker 4: You call a sat a spade, Carlos, Let's just leave
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  Speaker 4: it at that, Okay, you do. I think that's why
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  Speaker 4: you're so loved by so many people, because regardless of
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  Speaker 4: what you know, if you get the wrath of anything
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  Speaker 4: or from whatever you've said, you were honest and you
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  Speaker 4: speak your mind and most of the time.
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  Speaker 3: You end up being right. So, okay, I would have
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  Speaker 3: argued with you last week. I would have argued with you.
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  Speaker 4: I would have said, oh, come on, don't be so
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  Speaker 4: hard on Katie, because I'm like you, I was feeling
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  Speaker 4: really bad. I thought I felt like it was such
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  Speaker 4: a gang up. Now I'm like, now I'm on the
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  Speaker 4: ship with the girls, being like I just got led about.
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  Speaker 3: So now I believe that she is flying about all.
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  Speaker 4: Those othersuff because it's just do the lie, like oh yeah, anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I don't get it because on your that's okay,
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  Speaker 2: I will say this.
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  Speaker 1: I don't get it because for me, even in this
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  Speaker 1: episode when Katie is like, so, you know, Tamrack goes outside,
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  Speaker 1: she brings Joe and she sees Katie and her husband Matt,
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  Speaker 1: And I think Matt is such a sweet guy. I
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  Speaker 1: feel I honestly feel bad for Mike because I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: I mean that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's a good person. He's a good human.
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  Speaker 4: He's so innocent and in the storm of all of this,
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  Speaker 4: and his wife handled things differently. I think it would
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  Speaker 4: be a you know, he had a better experience, but
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  Speaker 4: he should be taking some accountability for her, holding accountable
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  Speaker 4: for her actions at this point, you know, like like
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  Speaker 4: oh they do it, Like what your wife?
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  Speaker 3: What are you doing?
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  Speaker 4: You know? Like, yeah, I mean and Katie, here's the thing, though, Carlos,
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  Speaker 4: she did own up to some of the things at
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  Speaker 4: the very beginning of the episode or was that last
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  Speaker 4: week's episode one of the episodes now I'm turning together,
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  Speaker 4: but she she took my ability. But I'm sorry I
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  Speaker 4: did do some of these things, So why are you
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  Speaker 4: now going to continue to lie about things that are
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  Speaker 4: so stupid about that?
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  Speaker 3: That's where I'm like, she really does have a bad
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  Speaker 3: relationship with.
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  Speaker 4: The truth, and if not even to protect her own
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  Speaker 4: family and her own you know, what, do you reputation.
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  Speaker 4: It's like now it's to the point where it's like
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  Speaker 4: it's just stupid lies about things She's already needed.
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  Speaker 3: She knows there's a voice recording.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I think when it comes to Katie, I
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  Speaker 1: think Katie has an unhealthy relationship with the audience, and
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  Speaker 1: that audience includes her fans, the viewers of the show,
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  Speaker 1: and the bloggers. I think Katie, because listen, I've been
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  Speaker 1: doing this for almost twenty years, Alexis. I think Katie
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  Speaker 1: being a newbie, and I understand it when it's your
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  Speaker 1: first season, her first season, it is it is it is.
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  Speaker 2: It is something that is new to you.
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  Speaker 1: Gratefully, Alexis, you were on The Real Housewives of OC
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  Speaker 1: before social media blew up.
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  Speaker 2: You were able to really live in your reality. Those
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  Speaker 2: days are gone. Unfortunately.
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  Speaker 1: I think Katie spent every available time going through social
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  Speaker 1: media comments and because a lot of people just don't
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  Speaker 1: like Tamera. I always say this, like I said about
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  Speaker 1: Melissa Gorga. In my opinion, Melissa Gorga does not have fans.
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  Speaker 1: She has Teresa Hayters. I don't think Katie has fans.
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  Speaker 1: I think Katie has Tamra haters. And I think Katie
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  Speaker 1: got caught up in the matrix and started to befriend
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  Speaker 1: bloggers and she really is played Katie to the audience.
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  Speaker 1: And now that you're telling me what she said about
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  Speaker 1: you on Watch What Happens Live indicates that little do
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  Speaker 1: you know, Katie. If you go listen to a podcast,
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  Speaker 1: listen to my girlfriend, because Alexis really has their back
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  Speaker 1: on my podcast when I was like, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: she's this person, Alexis has their back, Katie. So instead
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  Speaker 1: of you listening to the echo chamber of the bubble
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  Speaker 1: that you're in, you should have listened to reality with
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  Speaker 1: the game and really understood that had you're back unless your.
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  Speaker 4: Back, and I will, I am will fill That's the thing.
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  Speaker 4: I will be loyal to my friends and there everything
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  Speaker 4: you know, I will. I will be little to a
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  Speaker 4: fault with them. However, she should listen to her gut
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  Speaker 4: to and the other part.
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  Speaker 3: Carlos that you.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know this or not, but Tamro was close
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  Speaker 4: to Paiti and defended Patie and tried her hardest to
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  Speaker 4: help Katie through this whole season, like she really did, so,
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  Speaker 4: you know, even against the other women's wishes and everything else.
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  Speaker 3: So I I don't know why. I don't know what.
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  Speaker 4: I think Katie's just scared. I think she's just been
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  Speaker 4: so hated by the women and kind of iced out
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  Speaker 4: a little bit. It looks like the women are not
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  Speaker 4: nice to her.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's going to turn around. We
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  Speaker 4: have a few more episodes to see, obviously, But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's just she she had a different path she could
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  Speaker 4: have taken.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, instead of the path of Matt leading you
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  Speaker 1: to self destruction because he believes his wife and you're
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  Speaker 1: a liar, liar, pants on fire.
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  Speaker 2: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show.
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  Speaker 1: So before we move on to the office scene, what
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  Speaker 1: I do want to address is this Katie said in
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  Speaker 1: her confessional. If Tamara was so concerned about the recording,
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  Speaker 1: why didn't she say anything?
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  Speaker 2: Then why is she saying it now? As a producer.
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  Speaker 1: I will say this because tamar is taping a reality shows.
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  Speaker 3: You can complain about Tama.
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  Speaker 4: Tamara does her job, Okay, she moves storyline forward, she
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  Speaker 4: has conflict resolutions, skilled she takes she takes her job,
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  Speaker 4: and she does her job. This is why she's the
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  Speaker 4: longest living housewife or the longest you housewife, stint or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, Okay, the girl knows how to do her job.
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  Speaker 4: So at the end of the day, everyone can hate
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  Speaker 4: whoever they want. If the show wouldn't exist without someone
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  Speaker 4: like Tamarra to movie storyline on. I don't know why
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  Speaker 4: she brought it up. I really don't. Maybe it was
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  Speaker 4: a boring lunch or maybe something ignited you know, you
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  Speaker 4: don't see a lot of us see you know that, right,
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  Speaker 4: it's a huge it's filmed for hours and you get
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  Speaker 4: one little snippet of it. Maybe something was said that
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  Speaker 4: we didn't see that ignited it in hammer and she's
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  Speaker 4: like and she just brought it up. I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: but I just know that as well as you that
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  Speaker 4: filming a reality show, a lot of footage isn't cut
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  Speaker 4: because they have to.
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  Speaker 3: Reduce it down.
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  Speaker 4: And who knows why she brought it up, unless it's
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  Speaker 4: to move storyline, or unless it's to call Katie out,
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  Speaker 4: because she.
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  Speaker 2: Did do that, you know, precisely, and for Tama Judge,
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  Speaker 2: I thank you. Now I need to know this. One
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  Speaker 2: thing about the OC that I love is the fact
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  Speaker 2: that I like the petty beef. I like the petty drama.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing made me laugh louder.
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  Speaker 1: In this episode, Alexis than Tamra accusing Jen of wearing
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  Speaker 1: her old hair extensions and it.
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  Speaker 3: Admitted it that they put it in for five I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you can't break this right. You can't even write this
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  Speaker 3: the movie. She said. Jen said, oh, come on, Tamba.
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  Speaker 3: They just clipped him in for fun. It was just funny.
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  Speaker 4: And then you know, we laughed about it. So I
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  Speaker 4: personally think it's funny and I don't think anything I would.
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: I'd own it too if I was like, yeah, we
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: put im in to be funny. It's hysterical.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: I hear your your weed was right here, your hair
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: was right here. I just stuck it in to take
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: it for a moment.
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: And I don't think Dinner of Soccer or want to
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: be I don't think she wants to be Tamra. I
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: think she is just trying to live her best life
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: and look like every other blonde bombshell here in southern California.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: You know, well that that's the thing I was going
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: to ask you.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Is there a shortage of horses that is lacking in
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: oc where you can't cut the hair off of them?
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Not saying you should shut off to Pita, but I'm saying,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: like I thought that was the funniest thing. And Tamra, Listen,
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Tamra is serious when she says, I believe that Jen
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: stalked me. I believe that Jim purpose purposely, you know,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: went to the gym and did all these things to
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: get close to me to get on the show.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: You know Jim personally, I don't.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Do you see some validity in what Tamar is saying
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: about Jen allegedly being single white female.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: They have such a beef that I and I don't.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: I really don't understand where it comes from, because I
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: do like Jin.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: You know, we have distanced a little bit, but I
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: do like her.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: I don't think no matter what gim she goes to, Okay,
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: Orange coummy small, no matter what restaurant you go to,
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: it's not single white female. Although tamer does have quite
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: a list of things that she goes down to. In
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: Tamra's mind, she does believe that right like she truly
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: does believe Jen wants to be her. I look at
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: it as an outsider, loving Tamar, she's one of my besties,
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: and loving liking Jen a lot.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: I feel like there is.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: No single white bee won't. Like I've said it before,
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: it's like you walk down the street. We aren't all
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: dark haired, light skin. We are like tan, blonde, blues, lips, botox.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: That's the look here in Califrinia. So I don't think
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: that anyone single white femaling Tamra because they want to
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: do the same thing that most of.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Them, you know, women here are doing and let it.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Maybe everybody is single white female Pamela and the different Baywatch.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe maybe her in her.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Red swim throat running through the beach.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe maybe that's the Pulsted child forward.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: But you know, one thing that Jen did say as
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: a clapback is look, Tamara was my body. She got
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: the tummy talk to look like me and was send photos.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: So look, one thing about Jen, Jen is not backing
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: down from Tamra.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: Now that's what I'm telling you they have such a beef,
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: and I really do want to know like what it
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: comes from, because I was kind of in the middle
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: of it, like when I was filming Season eighteen, because
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: I was doing the situation.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: On my eye.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: I mean loved Tamra, loved Jin, and I'd have to
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: be like, Okay, both of you, don't say a word
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: about the other person, because I'm in the middle and
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: I'm printed both of you talk about I don't want
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: to hear anything about Jen.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: I don't want to hear anything about Tamara period.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: So I had to like look really hard because you know,
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: there's so much filming going on and you're kind of
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: stuck in the middle of it all. I don't understand
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: their beats, and I wish that there wasn't such a
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: animosity there. There's just a lot on both sides, both
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: of them, and you could tell in that scene, but
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: that scene not like it was.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: It was intense and neither of them were backing down.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: So I do want to go there now with it too,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: because when Tamar and Jan sat down, I I'm going
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: to be honest here.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: I love a one on one with two housewives.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I think is the perfect moment to address everything without
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: the other women there either agony interrupting you. I need
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: things to be clear as day as something comical or
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: shady always comes out of it. When I look at
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: tamar and Jen, look, I know Gretchen is back, and
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: we'll get to that in a second. In my opinion, Alexis,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I think Tamarra and.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: Jen's bank Suddenly I can't hear you, all right.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: I'll start hang on, say it again, testing one.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Two three, Okay, I don't know what happened.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, when I look at Tamra and Jen, in my opinion,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: this is giving me old school Tamara Gretchen, I think,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: and Gretchen's back. We're gonna see what happens later in
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: the season. But I'm telling you right now, this season,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with the beef between Tamra Jen because they
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: are both hysterical and they do not back down from
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: each other. And when I look at Jen, I think
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Jen has come a force to be reckoned with on
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: this show. And that's why I think she should stay
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: on for as long as the show was there. Because
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I always said this to me. She breathes, oh see,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: and I like the fact that she can stand up
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: for herself, and she did that in this scene. You know,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: look the accusation of cheating came up. Jen said, look,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: you cheated too. Tamer said, I was out of my marriage,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: meaning she moved out when she started seeing Eddie.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Jen said same thing with me.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I just start seeing Ryan until I was I was,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: you know, out the house, out of my marriage or whatever,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: not divorce.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: But technically away from the marriage. What your thoughts on
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: that is, is that considered cheating to you? And is
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: that true based on your knowledge?
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: I think every divorce a has to handle that topic
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: on their own and go with their own world. I mean,
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: the minute Jim and I, you know, knew we were
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: going to get a divorce. At that point, the narrows
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: is over. I don't think it's cheating at all. I
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: think if you once you've said we're done, I mean,
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: if you have to wait for the divorce finalize, which
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: a lot of people believe in that you have to.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: You might have to wait two to three years for
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: some divorces.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: So it's like you're not going to spend that whole
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: too with when you're saying and still you're you're still
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: married with this guy when you're out living together. So
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: I wasn't there when Tamra met Eddie, so I don't
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: know for sure what was happening. I'm going to take
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: it at face volume book that she said when she
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: said I have maked.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Out, saying with Jin.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: But there is the rumor going around that both of
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: them have cheated. I guess I didn't even know that
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: was that was part of it. But they're both sitting
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: there accusing each other of it and then saying no.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: But I wasn't.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: I was moved out, So I think it it doesn't
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: make any different. After you mentioned that you're can divorce,
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: I think, what do you think? Because I think at
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: that point, it's like, okay, we're done, let's move on.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: Sign on the dog line when the line comes.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Yes, no, what that was saying. I don't think it's cheating.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: If we both said we are divorcing each other and
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: we're going to move on from this marriage. I think
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: the moment two parties decide this marriage is heading towards
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: divorce and we're going to file, I think that's the
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: day you're able to start dating other people.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I don't think.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I don't think you should wait until the divorce is finalized,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: because based on my history working with housewives and reality
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: stars who are going through divorce, it can sometimes take
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: years for the divorce to be finalized, especially when there's
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: lots of assets.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: And children involved. It takes a while. So I don't
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: think it's cheating.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: However, Tamar did say, prompted by the shady producer, if
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: the professionals when when prompted by the producer, what is
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: the information that Jin? I mean, I'm sorry that Tamra
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: has on Gin. Tamar did say, there's yes, yes, no, yes.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Tamra says there's rumors that.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Jin was involved with another guy before Ryan. Is that
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: true in the OC streets?
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: Alexis Billino, I do not know, And I am so
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: sorry that I can't dish any more Tea on this.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: I did not know about that or about it until
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: you know all of us just now. So I And
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: here's the thing I have a hard time with. There
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: are so many false rumors that go around. There are
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: so many things that aren't true said about me, about
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: people I know, about Tamara, about Jen. Sometimes I just
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: look the other way and go, okay, is it real
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: or not? And and by the way does it even
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: matter At this point she's engaged to Ryan. It's like, well,
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: just not worry about what happened five years ago, ten
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: years ago, and stick to what's happening now.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Like, I just I don't know.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: And there was a rumor that Tamar and Eddie had cheeted,
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: and that was in one of the episodes, you know,
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: back in seasons five or eight or something or no,
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: maybe it was after that.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: I don't remember.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: Now all the time runs together, but and I don't
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: think that was true. So it's like, I just I
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: don't know.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: People like to talk.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: I think it's true in any town, not just O.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: See by the way, I don't want to just a
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: bunch of doctors.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: No, no, that's the big Oh No, it's Listen. The
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Housewives has spaned to like ten cities, so clearly it's
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: in every area.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: And that's the reason why the franchise is successful, because
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: they did a good job tapping into these cities where
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: it is like this community.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Where people do talk. And again it's like a nod
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: to Desperate Housewives.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: One thing I would like to say about Tamara is
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I really enjoyed this scene between her and Sophie her daughter,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: and for me, look, I know Tamar goes a bad
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: rap and I know that tamras sometimes to the audience
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: does not help herself. I always look at it like
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Tamara is a good reality star because she's complex and
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: she's not perfect, and I think that's the beauty of
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: her as a reality star. The scene between her and
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Sophie made me smile because it was nice to see
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: her in mother mode. And I always think when it
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: comes to reality stars, it's nice to have that balance.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: And that's the reason why last season, Alexis when you
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: were on and you came to my podcast and I
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: was on yours too, one thing we talked about was
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: the sort of unfortunate nature of you being a friend
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: because it prevented the world from seeing your full life.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Right you were subjected to only being the friend into
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: these other women's reality and not unfortunately having your full
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: reality be shown. Talk to me about the importance of
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: having these scenes where you are mother and people seeing
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: your life, because I felt that that scene really did
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: help balance out Tamar this season.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Well, it just that's what I.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: Miss about the show too, because back season five to eight,
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: when I was on, it was even as a full
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: time versus a friend also, but it was a lot
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: more of your family life shown and real talk to
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: have with your husband, some real moments you have with
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: your kids, like when one of my kids the other
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: one of the twins, the other twin, and I had
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: to take all their you know, their lipstick and everything.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: You don't get the same one your sister. So I
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: I love that scene with Tamara, and it does show
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: her how like she is a good mom, She is
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: close to her kids, she would die for her kids,
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: you know, just like every other mom. And yeah, it's
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: the reality of real life that then people can kind
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: of go, oh, I can relate to that instead of
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: just all the bickering and the lies and rumors and
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: gossip that happens, which is doocy and not that keeps
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: everyone coming back. But it is good to see with
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: all the all the housewives, their mother little skills and
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: what it's like, you know, just bring it home for everybody.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you, and I think, look Tamra, obviously,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: unfortunately there's other children she have that I believe there's
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: one or two if I'm not mistaken, maybe one who
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: isn't speaking to her. Currently, but I think, look, I
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: think it's brave that any mother decides to get on
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: reality television, and I think it's for the kids to
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: say yes. And I think there's something complicated about kids
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: growing up into reality television, and there's something complicated about
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: going through divorce when you have kids. I think sometimes,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: not all the time, Sometimes kids do pick sides and
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: it's hard to navigate. And that's why I give Tamra
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: all the props in the world for being honest about
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: the relationship she's happened with her children and the complexities
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: of what that is. Now, with that being said, I'm
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: going to transition into Heather de Bro meeting with Katie.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: In this scene, Alexis, Heather Debro confronts Katie about a
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: conversation she had with Tamera where there's a radio host
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: named ki Ki Monique High Kiki.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: She has a show with Real Housewives of New York
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Legend Derinda.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: I believe it's called Reality Checked. I've been a guest
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: on it. Keiki Monique is fantastic. She's not a blogger,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: she's a radio host, and I believe she's a comedian.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Long story short, Heather confronted Katie and said, Tamar did
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: tell me that you met with a blogger named Keikim
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Monique and to give information to her, And Katie looked
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: visibly shocked by the accusation and denied it. Do you
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: believe Katie was surprised by the accusation because it wasn't true.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: No, I think Katie, once again, well, was dumbfounded it.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: She gottling again, like it's almost like you know, your
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: mom tells you not to touch the stove and oh,
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: you'll get burnt, and you keep touching it and you
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: keep getting burnt. I feel like Katie's like, especially after
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: last night, what happened with me. It's I do believe
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: she doesn't think she actually says what she she does
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: say or did what she will do. I think she
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: might actually have an issue that, like some kind of
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: issue with going, oh did I do that?
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: And then remembering it. But it's too she's already lied
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: about it. I don't know.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: Nothing else makes sense to me. I don't understand, but
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: I have heard about the peepee thing, and I do.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: I will have to wait and see what happens on
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: the couple episodes, but I think you're gonna see too
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: a lot more to that situation.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Alexis Beenlina, are you saying to me that this is
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: just the beginning of what I think?
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. I don't get the
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: screeners anymore. I don't know. All I feel like is
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: they're setting us up.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: They're setting us up to let us think or there's
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: something going to be more about the peepe thing er.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: It wouldn't have just gotten brought up, you know. And
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: Katie does keep getting caught in the lie. Katie did
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: act shocked, But to me, when I was watching that pain,
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: I thought she was acting shocked because she was like
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: how did this get out? You know, That's more what
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: I was reading from the situation. And so we'll see, I,
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: you know, kind of kind of let that as a footpanger,
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: you know. But I think it's there's there's going to
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: be more.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: I hope. I want to get to the bottom of it.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: I just want to know, Like I want to sit
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: down with Katie and have her take a light detector test,
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: like for like ten minutes and ask her like twenty
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: five of the questions would women are thinking she's light about?
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: And see what the flight detector tests them do?
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: Because I think it probably burned like I think the
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: paper would start to like fry, you know, from the thing.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Don't trace you. I don't understand the lies. I don't
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: get it. It's all line one one for a fire
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: truck to come put the.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Liear liear Katie's on fire.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, look, listen, I'm going to keep watching obviously, Alexis.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I would love you to come back on because you
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: bring to me so much insight and intail about this show.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: And look, it's a gift to have you on recapping
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: these episodes with me because I really am fascinated by
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: that world.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: And listen, you are the icon that.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Helped build this franchise into to me, currently the best
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: one out there. So I thank you for your services.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Alexis Blina, Yes, yeah, yeah, yes, all right, So rain
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Drops catches again the next time. But Alexis, but anything
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: going on that you want to promote let your fans
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: know about.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Although I know how you are planning your wedding and
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you're you're like and you dated with that,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: I am.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: I am in deep and I didn't realize I've been
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: so nonchalant about it up until now that we're getting
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: down to wire, and it's like, even with the team
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: I have behind me, I'm like, oh, I'm eating, sleeping, drinking,
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: you know, dreaming, like all wedding stuff.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: So there's just a lot of facets and things that.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: You have to that when it comes down the clothes
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: that you have to start narrowing down and getting down.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: So yeah, exciting, exciting, all right. I love you, Alexive
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: and I'll see you all the next one.
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  Speaker 1: Bye. Reality with the King is executive produced by me
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  Speaker 1: Carlos King, produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership with
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  Speaker 1: the Lack Effect Network. You can also find us on
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  Speaker 1: my YouTube channel at the Carlos King Underscore