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Piers Morgan is _Sickened_ in this interview with Pyschopath Alex Henriquez _ Full Interview · History Dark

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Your Honor, first thing I'd like to say is that
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: I am innocent of these killings. I did not commit
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: any of these murders that I was found guilty of.
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: I feel that nothing here has been proven. There's been
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of lies, a lot of deceptions, deceiving the
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  Speaker 1: people of the Bronx.
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  Speaker 2: I'm innocent of these crimes. Thank you, Your Honor. How
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  Speaker 2: do you think? Good to see you.
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  Speaker 3: Come inside.
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  Speaker 2: If you just sit here to start.
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  Speaker 4: With, please.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you. Look at the camera.
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  Speaker 2: This man is one of America's most notorious serial killers.
• 0:54
  Speaker 2: He was convicted of three murders and suspected of more,
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  Speaker 2: but he proclaims he's innocent.
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  Speaker 5: Alex Enrique grew up like hundreds of thousands of other
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  Speaker 5: people did in the Bronx, but they didn't turn into
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  Speaker 5: serial killers. He is a psychopath first before he's anything else.
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  Speaker 2: Enrique admits he did know all the victims. One was
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  Speaker 2: just 10 years old. All I know is that I
• 1:22
  Speaker 2: just wish my friend was here.
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  Speaker 6: I have not killed anybody in my life, and I
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  Speaker 6: don't think I ever will.
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  Speaker 2: But there was no hard evidence.
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  Speaker 7: I thought maybe they had the wrong person, because the
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  Speaker 7: person to do this type of crimes really didn't fit
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  Speaker 7: the person that was sitting there.
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  Speaker 8: Alejandro Henriquez, a serial killer.
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  Speaker 6: Alex Henriquez.
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  Speaker 2: Alejandro Henriquez.
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  Speaker 9: I remember feeling that I wanted to spit on him,
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  Speaker 9: that I wanted to attack him.
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  Speaker 3: My heart bled black.
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  Speaker 2: Having refused interviews for almost 30 years, Alex Enriquez is
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  Speaker 2: now ready to tell his side of the story.
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  Speaker 10: He comes at you from every angle, and you must
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  Speaker 10: take your time, and you must let him talk. Because
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  Speaker 10: the more he talks, the more mistakes he may make.
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  Speaker 2: Jessica Guzman was just 10 years old when one afternoon
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  Speaker 2: in October 1990, she headed down to her local supermarket
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  Speaker 2: and never came home. Jessica was the youngest of three
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  Speaker 2: girls murdered in a tight-knit community in the Bronx. Suspicion
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  Speaker 2: fell on Alex Enriquez, the last person to have seen
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  Speaker 2: Jessica alive.
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  Speaker 6: The last time I seen her, she was headed in
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  Speaker 6: that direction.
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  Speaker 3: May her soul rest in peace.
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  Speaker 11: A highly publicized case involving little Jessica disappeared near her
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  Speaker 11: home and was found a week later by the side
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  Speaker 11: of the Bronx River Parkway suffocated.
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  Speaker 5: 2,000 mourners turned out for services in the Bronx, including
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  Speaker 5: Mayor Dinkins and other top officials.
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  Speaker 2: It was the death of this 10-year-old girl that captured
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  Speaker 2: the nation's attention. Her coffin was covered in a flag
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  Speaker 2: sent by the president. A serial killer had terrorized this
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  Speaker 2: neighborhood for two years. And now the police were under
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  Speaker 2: huge pressure to catch him. So, Owen, what do we
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  Speaker 2: know about Jessica?
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  Speaker 10: She's a normal, regular little girl, 10-year-old girl. When she
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  Speaker 10: was found in a few days, we knew we were
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  Speaker 10: defeated before we even got started because she was already
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  Speaker 10: not worth us any longer.
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  Speaker 2: At the very least, her death stopped this maniac from
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  Speaker 2: killing more.
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  Speaker 10: Her death caused a big, huge investigation to be pursued.
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  Speaker 10: And in so doing, other homicides, victims came into play.
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  Speaker 10: And then it turned out that Alex was the common
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  Speaker 10: denominator of all these unfortunate homicides. when you have a
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  Speaker 10: conscience and it's tough to live if you have a conscience.
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  Speaker 10: He's lived a long time without a conscience. Hopefully he'll
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  Speaker 10: never dare or never be able to get out and
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  Speaker 10: do this to anybody else.
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  Speaker 2: Nearly there, sorry for the delay.
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  Speaker 3: Takes a lot of time in the world.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, yeah. All I've been able to find out
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  Speaker 2: about Enriquez is that no-one in his community ever thought
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  Speaker 2: he could be a serial killer. He grew up in
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  Speaker 2: the Bronx, was married, had children and ran a cab company.
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  Speaker 2: Since his time in prison, he's married again.
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  Speaker 3: Alex.
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  Speaker 2: You've been incarcerated for 28 years for crimes that you
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  Speaker 2: adamantly insist you did not commit. What kind of person
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  Speaker 2: were you before you were convicted?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I was a father, I was a son, I
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  Speaker 3: was a brother, and I was a husband. Was I perfect?
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  Speaker 2: Far from it.
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  Speaker 3: Was I an angel? Far from it.
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  Speaker 2: What were your imperfections?
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  Speaker 6: It's sad and embarrassing to say. I was married and
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  Speaker 6: I had a lot of girlfriends. That was my biggest,
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  Speaker 6: I guess, problem. But it was just that, I guess,
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  Speaker 6: as a man, I did things I wasn't supposed to do.
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  Speaker 3: I was with this girl, that girl, that girl. And
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  Speaker 3: you lived the lifestyle I lived. You know, you have
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  Speaker 3: a nice car, you dress....
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  Speaker 6: Nice clothing. Women attract to that. It's like a magnet.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't like guys, I like women. So it was,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it went with the.
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  Speaker 2: The women found you magnetic?
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  Speaker 4: Um....
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  Speaker 3: I guess so, if I had them.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't, you know, pay anybody or force anybody, so
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  Speaker 6: I guess they must have liked me.
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  Speaker 2: Most people who are committed to killing children, get targeted
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  Speaker 2: in prison. Have you had that?
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  Speaker 3: No, you hear comments. There's a lot of worse crimes
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  Speaker 3: in here.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Alex, I mean, you're convicted of killing three very
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  Speaker 2: young people. One was 10, one was 14, one was 21.
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  Speaker 2: What could be worse?
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  Speaker 6: To me, there's nothing worse than taking a child's life.
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  Speaker 6: an innocent child's life. When I see something on TV
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  Speaker 6: that something happened to a.
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  Speaker 3: Child, I always sort of like get emotional.
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  Speaker 6: My eyes get watery because I say, wow, that's what
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  Speaker 6: they're accusing me of. So it's not a nice thing.
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  Speaker 12: Two kids went missing in the Bronx, and that's when
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  Speaker 12: I first heard the name Alejandro Henriquez, because he was
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  Speaker 12: the last person seen with them. Shortly after that, there
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  Speaker 12: was another missing person. This was Jessica Guzman. When she
• 8:01
  Speaker 12: went missing, we said, well, who was with the what?
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  Speaker 12: One of the housing detectives says, yeah, there was a guy,
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  Speaker 12: Alexander Henriquez.
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  Speaker 13: Despite his declaration of innocence, suspicion has swirled around Alex
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  Speaker 13: Henriquez for some time, but until now, not enough evidence.
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  Speaker 6: There seems to be the impression, at least, that people
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  Speaker 6: who know you, especially if they're young, don't live long. Well,
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  Speaker 6: you say that, but I must be a magician then.
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  Speaker 14: I can't be in two places at one time.
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  Speaker 13: When he was arrested, I was very scared they were
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  Speaker 13: blaming the wrong guy. Everything I was hearing of what
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  Speaker 13: he did to each girl To me, it was just
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  Speaker 13: had to be a monster. And this is not what
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  Speaker 13: I was seeing. I remember meeting him. I dropped off
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  Speaker 13: Jesse to a friend's house. He was cleaning the car
• 9:02
  Speaker 13: in front of the house. And Jesse told me, mom,
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  Speaker 13: this is Christina's dad.
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  Speaker 2: Are you capable of hurting a child?
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  Speaker 3: Am I capable of hurting a child?
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  Speaker 4: Uh, no.
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  Speaker 3: Why would I want to have a child? Because I
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  Speaker 3: have children.
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  Speaker 2: How many do you have?
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  Speaker 3: I have two girls. Ironically, my second daughter was called Jessica.
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  Speaker 3: It's the same.
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  Speaker 6: Exact name as the girl, one of the girls they
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  Speaker 6: accused me of killing.
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  Speaker 3: And, um.
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  Speaker 6: Really can express the pain I feel when I hear that.
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  Speaker 2: Let me just get some pictures of the, so that
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  Speaker 2: our viewers know what we're talking about here. these are
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  Speaker 2: the the three girls so Shamira was the first to
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  Speaker 2: die then Lisa and then Jessica did you kill these people.
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  Speaker 3: No I didn't.
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  Speaker 6: I never, listen to me carefully, I've never taken anyone's life,
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  Speaker 6: not even an animal, never.
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  Speaker 2: What the police told me about this interview, because I said,
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  Speaker 2: you know, what do you think will happen? How will
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  Speaker 2: it play out? Because I don't know you. And they
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  Speaker 2: said he will have an answer for everything. He will
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  Speaker 2: bamboozle you with all sorts of information. He'll try and
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  Speaker 2: manipulate you. He'll lie to you. He'll play you. He'll
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  Speaker 2: try and play you. He'll try and outwit you. He's
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  Speaker 2: a smart guy.
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  Speaker 6: That's their job. Their job is to make you believe
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  Speaker 6: that I am the killer.
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  Speaker 5: Most psychopaths have very positive self-images. They look at their
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  Speaker 5: reflection in the mirror, in a sheet of glass, and
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  Speaker 5: they really like what they see. And they're convinced that
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  Speaker 5: their stuff doesn't stink. And they'll go out and tell
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  Speaker 5: anybody what they want to hear, as long as in
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  Speaker 5: the long run it benefits the person, him or herself.
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  Speaker 2: Enriquez says the police, facing a public outcry, desperately needed
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  Speaker 2: a scapegoat. And he was it.
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  Speaker 4: Mr.
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  Speaker 3: And Mrs. Rodriguez.
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  Speaker 8: You're a hell of a liar!
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  Speaker 14: I have no anger for the families for what they're
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  Speaker 14: saying or what they think of me because they.
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  Speaker 1: Have been misled and they have been deceived.
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  Speaker 2: I could never understand.
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  Speaker 8: Why they've come here and lied against us.
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  Speaker 2: I lied and she's lying and she's lying.
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  Speaker 11: Everybody lies with you, I think everybody with you.
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  Speaker 14: I'm innocent of these crimes. I'm innocent of these murders.
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  Speaker 14: I have no anger for the family.
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  Speaker 2: There have been suggestions, and you can perhaps clarify this,
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  Speaker 2: that you may have suffered some form of abuse, sexual
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  Speaker 2: abuse or otherwise, when you were younger. Is that true?
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing like that?
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  Speaker 3: Never. My parents took care of me. I went to
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  Speaker 3: the best schools. I had everything.
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  Speaker 2: Neither of your parents are alive, is that right?
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  Speaker 3: They passed away, yes.
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  Speaker 2: While you were in prison?
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  Speaker 6: My dad passed away first, and my dear mother passed
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  Speaker 6: away March.
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  Speaker 3: 11th, 2017.
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  Speaker 2: What was your relationship like with your mother?
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  Speaker 3: Beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: Did she ever ask you if you did the killings?
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  Speaker 3: No, she never asked me.
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  Speaker 2: Did she believe in you to the end?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Do you accept that whoever killed these girls is a
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  Speaker 2: despicable human being?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody who would take three young lives and snuff them out?
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  Speaker 3: Without a question.
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  Speaker 2: Ruin every dream for them, for their families?
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  Speaker 3: Of course.
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  Speaker 2: In Lisa's case, her parents have never altered the room
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  Speaker 2: that she was last in 30 years ago. They go
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  Speaker 2: and sleep in there sometimes for comfort. Their lives are
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  Speaker 2: ruined too.
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  Speaker 6: How can you ever recover from a tragedy like that?
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  Speaker 6: An ugly tragedy.
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  Speaker 3: There's no recovery.
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  Speaker 15: This is Lisa's room. Almost exactly the way she left it.
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  Speaker 15: Gives me a lot of comfort to just be in
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  Speaker 15: her room and sleep in her room. I feel like
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  Speaker 15: I have her still in my heart. and that she's
• 14:25
  Speaker 15: with us here. And I could just hear her now saying, Mama,
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  Speaker 15: I love you, you know?
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  Speaker 12: We had just got a new medical examiner. He came
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  Speaker 12: up with something that we had never used before as
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  Speaker 12: a cause of death, homicide lasphyxia. We'd use strangulation or
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  Speaker 12: suffocation or things like that. But it appears that he
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  Speaker 12: held so tight that they couldn't breathe.
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  Speaker 8: That's a slow way to go.
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  Speaker 2: Lisa was 21, and the oldest of the three girls,
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  Speaker 2: Alex Enriquez, was convicted of killing. But the police had
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  Speaker 2: little to link him to the murder, a pair of
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  Speaker 2: his wife's pink sweatpants were covered at the crime scene.
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  Speaker 2: And crucially, a witness who could place Alex and Lisa together.
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  Speaker 2: At the time, he was living here with his wife.
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  Speaker 11: One day, Alex and Lisa were standing out front. They
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  Speaker 11: were basically sitting like or leaning against a car. I
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  Speaker 11: guess it was his car. And he introduced Lisa as
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  Speaker 11: his niece. And we talked for a bit, and he
• 16:00
  Speaker 11: said he called her a cab. And I found that
• 16:03
  Speaker 11: kind of ironic because he is a cab driver. But anyhow,
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  Speaker 11: he waited, and they were waiting for a very long time,
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  Speaker 11: and the cab never came. She wanted to go home, obviously,
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  Speaker 11: but he wasn't taking her. She looked very young. I
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  Speaker 11: had no reason to believe that that wasn't his niece.
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  Speaker 2: In Lisa's case, you say that you had a sexual
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  Speaker 2: relationship with her.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I did.
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  Speaker 6: Please understand, I don't want to offend the victim's families,
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  Speaker 6: and that's the key, because.
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  Speaker 2: They've been hurt enough.
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  Speaker 6: We would just go out, she'll call me, I'll call
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  Speaker 6: her and we'll go out. She wasn't per se my
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  Speaker 6: girlfriend because she had a boyfriend.
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  Speaker 2: How many times did you have sex with her, do
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  Speaker 2: you think?
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember. To be exact, I couldn't tell you.
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't keeping notes of this.
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  Speaker 2: One of the key pieces of evidence in that in
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  Speaker 2: that instance, was that she was found wearing your wife's
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  Speaker 2: pink sweatpants. How do you explain that?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I remember when we came from the beach that
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  Speaker 6: she was, her clothes had sand and oil, and she said,
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  Speaker 6: do I have anything to wear? I said, I don't
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  Speaker 6: have anything that'll fit you. And then I gave her
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  Speaker 6: a pair of sweatpants that I found.
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  Speaker 4: In a drawer.
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  Speaker 2: They're your wife's? This is the crate.
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  Speaker 3: I'm assuming they're hers.
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  Speaker 2: She was found dead in those pants.
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  Speaker 3: I gave her a pair of pants. Were those pants?
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  Speaker 2: Alex, she was found dead wearing those pants.
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  Speaker 3: That's why. Oh, I understand what you're saying.
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  Speaker 2: I heard you. So if you now concede you gave
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  Speaker 2: them to her and she's found dead in them, quite
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: obviously people are going to think, well, what happened?
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  Speaker 6: I said, let's say I gave her the pants. Let's
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  Speaker 6: say she was found dead in the pants. Why would
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  Speaker 6: that say that I killed her? Did someone see me
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  Speaker 6: kill her? Did they find physical evidence to say that
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  Speaker 6: I perpetrated the crime of murder?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 6: It was a witch hunt. It was, okay, we have
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  Speaker 6: this here, and we have this here, and we have
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  Speaker 6: this here. We put it all together, we make him
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  Speaker 6: look like the murderer.
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  Speaker 2: The defense tried to build a picture of this man
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  Speaker 2: having some kind of relationship with Lisa. Did you believe
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  Speaker 2: any of that?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 9: Not that he was, you know, that they were having
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  Speaker 9: any kind of relationship, no.
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  Speaker 2: You know, she would have told us. She would have,
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  Speaker 2: you know, mentioned him, which she never did. Were you
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: aware of him at all? No.
• 19:32
  Speaker 15: Maybe what happened was that she called him because he
• 19:35
  Speaker 15: was a cab service. She knew him, but only as
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  Speaker 15: a cab service, and it's not like they were dating
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  Speaker 15: or anything like that.
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  Speaker 2: But the fact that he appears to have given Lisa
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: some sweatpants, which came from his... own wife seems such
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: a strange detail. Have you ever been able to think
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: about how that could have happened?
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  Speaker 15: The only thing we can figure out is that he
• 20:02
  Speaker 15: killed her at that moment and he undressed her and
• 20:05
  Speaker 15: that's how she ended up with his clothes.
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  Speaker 2: But otherwise, no. The truth is we don't know what
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  Speaker 2: to believe with this guy.
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  Speaker 10: No.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: And Chiki, what are your feelings towards Alex Enriquez? I
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  Speaker 2: can't even begin to tell you how much I hate
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  Speaker 2: that he took our daughter from us.
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  Speaker 3: I understand.
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  Speaker 2: I understand. It's heartbreaking to talk to you and to
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  Speaker 2: see the pictures that... and to have to relive this
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: with you. I'm so sorry for what you both have
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: had to go through. Lisa, like all the murder victims,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: lived within two miles of Enriquez's home. His cab service
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  Speaker 2: operated right in the heart of a neighborhood.
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  Speaker 12: It was a common occurrence for those kids to be
• 21:00
  Speaker 12: walking on the street, and the parents said, yeah, sometimes...
• 21:06
  Speaker 12: He takes them home if he's driving past in the
• 21:08
  Speaker 12: car or something. They didn't have any suspicion about him
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  Speaker 12: at all.
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  Speaker 2: Police believed he killed more than three girls, but couldn't
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  Speaker 2: prove it.
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  Speaker 15: The community has lost six young people during the past
• 21:22
  Speaker 15: four years, and many believe a single killer is to blame.
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  Speaker 3: Children are disappearing from all over the place.
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  Speaker 6: I'll find the person that did this.
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  Speaker 9: If we don't find them, they're going to do it
• 21:32
  Speaker 9: again and again and again.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Bodies are being dumped in our neighborhood, and it doesn't
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: seem like City Hall is getting off their rear ends
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  Speaker 2: to say no more.
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: All the victims had a link to a man who
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: has lived and operated right in the middle of the
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: area where the bodies have been found.
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  Speaker 15: Everybody that comes here, they know that he did it,
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  Speaker 15: he did it. Everybody, all the drivers, because that guy,
• 21:56
  Speaker 15: he's sick.
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  Speaker 2: The police say there were no similar deaths once you
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: had been imprisoned in that area of the Bronx.
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  Speaker 3: That's what they say.
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  Speaker 2: There were no more girls snatched off the street. I
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  Speaker 2: have evidence of otherwise.
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  Speaker 3: No one? Okay. You remember, I don't.
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  Speaker 6: Know if you, probably you don't remember, there was a
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: girl they called Baby Hope.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. I know that story.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Very similar. Mm-hmm.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Police say it bore no relation to the deaths here.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: I know it.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: It's a very different modus operandi.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: But what I'm saying.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: It's a particular modus operandi for all these deaths.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Like which one? Can you explain?
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: All three of them were taken off these particular streets
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: in a two-mile radius and killed in the same manner.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: And how did Baby Hope die?
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: The police say it was different circumstances.
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: No, it was asphyxiation, like they were killed, according to
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: what the police said.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: So in the side of the road.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, Alex. Even if you had
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: killed him, you wouldn't tell me, would you?
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: If I would have killed him, I would have pled
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: guilty from day one.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Would you?
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: You'd have admitted to being a triple child killer.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Obviously, there would be something wrong with me. I needed help.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Do you think there is something wrong with you?
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm innocent. Been innocent from day one.
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: Listen, I'm here because, first of all, you're not paying
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: me in the interview. I'm not here because I want
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: to meet you. I'm here because I need to present
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: the evidence. Because, again, let's go back to the fact
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: that I'm a con, liar, cheat, whatever you want to
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: call me.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Fine.
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: That has nothing to do with taking three innocent lives.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: So what it does, here's the problem for you. It
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: makes it very hard to believe you about anything. But
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: I need you to understand. The body language to me,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: I'm not an expert, but every time you've got overly defensive,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: your arms go like this, and it's.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: No, that's another thing.
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: I'm relaxed like this, I'm relaxed, I get tired of
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: keeping my hands stuck, put them here.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: It's a very defensive thing to do.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: Is it?
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know nothing about body language.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: I would say it is. I've only noticed it in
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: the time I've been with you.
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: Okay, well, let's take it another step.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: We're just.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: I think we've got a slight tape.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Sorry.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Just running out of battery.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: OK.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Alex, just give us one moment. Thank you very much.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: For the last two hours, I've been struggling to get
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: under the skin of Alex Enriquez.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Oh, I have my hands crossed.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: He's not here. I want to know what lurks beneath
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: his cool, calm exterior.
• 25:02
  Speaker 10: One of the first days that I met him, my
• 25:05
  Speaker 10: partner made a remark to him. And out of a
• 25:09
  Speaker 10: clear blue sky, Alex got so insulted he lost his cool.
• 25:15
  Speaker 10: And he jumped at my partner and he said, you're
• 25:17
  Speaker 10: a liar! And at that point, I saw with Alex,
• 25:27
  Speaker 10: like you pressed a button and he went off.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: We showed my interview to James Fitzgerald, an FBI legend.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: He caught the infamous Unabomber, ending a 20-year manhunt.
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: Ted Kaczynski injured 24 people and killed three others.
• 25:47
  Speaker 10: For decades, he was one of the most wanted criminals
• 25:49
  Speaker 10: in the US.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Are you capable of hurting a child? Am I capable
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: of hurting a child?
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: No.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Why would I want to hurt a child?
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: Most people would say... No, of course not. He hesitated
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: for actually a few seconds. Then his first reply was,
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: am I capable of hurting a child? He puts the
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: question back to peers in so many words. And then,
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: of course, he sort of denies it and plays off
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: that whole scenario from there. But why not just come
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: out and say, no, I would never do that. Even
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: with a psychopath, the lying syntaxes have to get aligned
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: with one another to make sure that the proper lie
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: comes out at the proper time. Psychopaths like control. They
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: don't want to be controlled. They want to control others.
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: To them, it just makes sense because it's what got
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: them this far in life in sort of a successful
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: method of surviving.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Please, Mr.
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: Morgan, I allow you to ask me any questions you
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: want because I have nothing to hide.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: But it's very important that you let me explain why
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: I'm innocent.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: See, I have to decide, Alex. Are you.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Are you just a guy in prison now as an
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: innocent man? Or am I looking at somebody who did
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: do that? In which case, you're one of the worst
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: people I've ever met in my life.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: And I can understand that because anyone who would commit
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: them atrocious crimes would have to be the worst person
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: you could ever meet.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Owen, do you think that Alex and Rick has planned
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: these killings meticulously or were they spontaneous acts?
• 27:40
  Speaker 10: I'd say it could be a little of both, some
• 27:42
  Speaker 10: of both. And the reason I say it is because
• 27:45
  Speaker 10: we may be much more to Alex than I ever
• 27:48
  Speaker 10: knew about or thought about. I may have thought about it,
• 27:51
  Speaker 10: but I couldn't put it together. He seemed to deal
• 27:55
  Speaker 10: with people that he knew were sort of beneath him
• 27:58
  Speaker 10: or he could charm or he could con.
• 28:07
  Speaker 16: Alejandro was the guy that killed her. He was telling
• 28:11
  Speaker 16: her stories that he had a horse in one of
• 28:16
  Speaker 16: the horse stables in the Bronx, and that's how he
• 28:19
  Speaker 16: coerced her to, you know, be interested in hanging out.
• 28:22
  Speaker 11: You know, we teach our kids that you don't take
• 28:26
  Speaker 11: things from strangers, but he wasn't really a stranger to
• 28:29
  Speaker 11: them because he saw them In the neighborhood, he was friendly,
• 28:36
  Speaker 11: give them candy, you know, and little by little, he
• 28:40
  Speaker 11: gained their trust.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: They said she.
• 28:43
  Speaker 9: Was decomposed, found in a black, in a black garbage bag, decomposed,
• 28:48
  Speaker 9: leaning on a tree. 11 years, we buried her on
• 28:52
  Speaker 9: her 11th birthday, October 20th, 1990.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Police had no hard evidence to connect Enriquez to Jessica's murder.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: But during interrogation, they say he made a vital mistake.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: He told them a detail only the killer could have known.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: With Jessica, with the evidence you gave about the particular
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: floral design on her... The what? The flower design on
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: her underwear... The police didn't know that because they hadn't
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: cleaned her underwear. After you said that, they went and
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: cleaned the heavily decomposed and filthy, dirty garment. And they
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: found that, yes, it was floral. They didn't know that.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: You had told them that.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know if that's true.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: That is true.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: That's what they said to you?
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: That's the truth. So then how do I know certain things... And.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: This is one of the reasons that... Well, Alex, it's
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: obvious why.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: I only know the pictures. Alex, it's obvious why you
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: would know.
• 30:06
  Speaker 10: How?
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: If you'd killed her, you'd know. Okay.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: If they showed me the pictures.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Pictures the undergarment hadn't been cleaned.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: They didn't show me pictures of the undergarment.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: They told me. You just said they showed you pictures.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: They showed me pictures.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Alex, I either showed you pictures or they didn't.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: No, no. They showed me pictures.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Did they show you pictures or not?
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: They showed me pictures of... The crime scene, the bodies.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: You gave them a particular piece of information. Because they
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: told me. But they did not know. How could they
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: tell you something they didn't know?
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: That's what they tell you.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: They hadn't cleaned the garment. So they're lying too.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Do you really think they said the truth?
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: I'll tell you a little bit of what the police
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: told me in the interrogation room.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: You're an animal. Look what you did.
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: What did you have sex with this little baby girl with?
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: little flower panties and training bra?
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Would you ripped it off? Did you cut it off?
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: Would you do it with a knife? What knife did
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: you use? Did you use scissors?
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: They'll say anything to try to break you down. And
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: because I didn't do anything, they couldn't break me.
• 31:10
  Speaker 10: Well, all I can recall now is that when the
• 31:13
  Speaker 10: panties were reexamined, that's when it was noted, the color
• 31:18
  Speaker 10: and the description. because at the time of the, when
• 31:24
  Speaker 10: the body was found, there was a lot of discoloration
• 31:27
  Speaker 10: from the elements, et cetera. Only a person involved could
• 31:34
  Speaker 10: know such detail. I never wanted the wrong person in jail.
• 31:41
  Speaker 10: I never wanted to bring a case into court that
• 31:43
  Speaker 10: would crumble.
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: The fact that he Kept going after these young girls
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: is a clue that maybe his peer relationships, his sexual
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: activities with women around his own age, weren't going quite
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: the way he would have liked. He quite frankly may
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: not have been able to perform at times with them,
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: so what he would wind up doing is regressing in
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: his own psychosexual way to these younger women, these children
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: in a sense, and that's somehow how he would gain
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: control over them.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: And satisfy those needs of his.
• 32:28
  Speaker 12: This guy got in touch with us. He said, hey,
• 32:32
  Speaker 12: I was driving up the Bronx River Parkway that night.
• 32:35
  Speaker 8: I saw a.
• 32:36
  Speaker 12: Car, he says, and there was a guy standing by
• 32:39
  Speaker 12: the trunk. I pulled over and I yelled to him
• 32:42
  Speaker 12: in Spanish, hey, do you need help?
• 32:44
  Speaker 8: He says the guy was very rude.
• 32:47
  Speaker 12: He yelled, get out of here, I don't need any help.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: He says, oh, okay, you know.
• 32:53
  Speaker 12: By this time, we had a photo array up, and
• 32:56
  Speaker 12: we showed it to the guy, and he picked Alex
• 33:01
  Speaker 12: right out of the photo array. He says that was
• 33:03
  Speaker 12: the guy that was parked, and he was parked 10
• 33:07
  Speaker 12: feet from where the body was discovered, maybe.
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: Let's go back to the evidence. What does the evidence say?
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: You have a guy who said he's seen me and
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: spoke to me at the crime scene.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Well, let's come to that. I never spoke to this guy.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: This man says he saw you there in the early
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: hours after the death of Jessica. He says he saw
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: you there.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Do you believe that? Have you seen.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: You tell me, were you there?
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: No, I wasn't there. Mr. Morgan, if I was a murderer...
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: killer who killed.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Three innocent a serial killer is what you're.
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: A serial killer whatever you want to call it and
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: a man pulls up to me and i just finished
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: killing somebody don't you think he would have been my
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: next victim i want you to think about that for
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: a second he can put me the crime scene he
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: can pinpoint me that i was there mr morgan i'm
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: not trying to con you or anyone I understand that
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: your job is to try to discredit me as much
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: as you can.
• 34:13
  Speaker 10: No.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: No, no.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: Let me finish.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: I don't have it. My only job is to interview you.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: Please.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: And to try and ascertain in my mind whether I
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: think you killed these girls or not.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: Well, how could you ascertain that if you don't let
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: me explain?
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Because I find that the way that you are trying
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: to deflect on every aspect of what links you to
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: these killings, I mean, it's been masterful deflection. That's what
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: it's been, deflection.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: So I'm masterful now?
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: I think you're a masterful liar, yeah.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: OK.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: You were by your own admission.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: I'm a liar.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Does that make me a murderer? Not only does Enriquez
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: admit to being a liar, but he's also been convicted
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: before of another crime. How will he react when I
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: question him about this shocking incident that landed him in prison?
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Some people, Alex, when they've been in prison for a
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: very long time, they think so much about.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Think so much about?
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: About why they're here. Did they start to believe their
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: own story?
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: No, I believed it from day one. If you see.
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: The court TV thing, I was very adamant that I
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: didn't do anything.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: You were very plausible.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: I didn't do anything. I've watched it.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: I've watched that video.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: And I didn't do anything now. And There's nothing anyone
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: can tell me.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: What do you say to the families suffering so much
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: from the deaths of their loved ones?
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: What do I say? Look for the truth.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: At trial, the defense argued all the evidence was circumstantial.
• 36:11
  Speaker 11: He is an accused serial killer, but Alejandro Enriquez remains
• 36:14
  Speaker 11: composed as his murder trial enters its third week.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: They only had one thing in common.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: They all knew Alejandro Enriquez.
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: His attorney says the DA has a weak case based
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: on circumstantial evidence. People were so mad and so angry
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: and the police.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Had to do something.
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: The evidence in this case is weak and unreliable circumstantial evidence.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: I did not commit any of these murders that were
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: found guilty of.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: I feel that nothing here has been proven There's been
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: a lot of lies, a lot of deceptions.
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: I found it interesting that Enrique, at one of the
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: most critical points in his life, being convicted of three
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: separate homicides, he has his moment to shine. The acting
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: skills this person possessed would be worthy of an Academy Award.
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: He knew how to frame these storylines together to show
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: a little bit of pity towards the family, but he
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: didn't mean that at all. It was all about preserving
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: himself and to save his own butt.
• 37:19
  Speaker 14: I have no anger for the families for what they're
• 37:22
  Speaker 14: saying or what they think of me because they have
• 37:24
  Speaker 14: been misled and they have been deceived.
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: And now he's on the stage for the first time
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: in years exhibiting his best psychopathic skill sets.
• 37:38
  Speaker 7: I keep calling him a gentleman. I don't know why,
• 37:41
  Speaker 7: but that's the way I was brought up. But this
• 37:43
  Speaker 7: piece of garbage... He's always there, he's always around where
• 37:49
  Speaker 7: things happen. You know, you say coincidence, coincidence happens every
• 37:53
  Speaker 7: once in a while. Everybody in that jury room knows
• 37:59
  Speaker 7: that he did it, and he knows that he did it.
• 38:02
  Speaker 7: There was no other person that could have done it
• 38:07
  Speaker 7: but him.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Owen, do you have any doubt that Alex Enriquez is
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: guilty of the crimes he committed?
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: No doubt.
• 38:21
  Speaker 10: I say they convicted him, and I'm satisfied with that.
• 38:25
  Speaker 10: If they hadn't convicted him, that case still would have
• 38:30
  Speaker 10: been in my court.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: When you see video footage of Enriquez from that courtroom,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: he doesn't look like a serial killer. capable of choking
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: the life out of three young girls who knew him
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: and trusted him. But there is one shocking incident that
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: happened before the murders that shows beyond doubt he is
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: capable of cruelty to children. How do you explain the
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: time that you were charged with these offences? You were
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: convicted of scolding a young boy who was the son
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: of your Okay. Severely scolding him so much you ended
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: up with a quite lengthy prison sentence.
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: When you say that I scolded and that I was convicted,
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: those are key words.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: But they're facts, aren't they?
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: No, they're not.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: You weren't convicted?
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: I pled guilty to leaving him alone in the bathroom
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: and to a lesser charge because.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: What was the lesser charge? It was an e-felony.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Assault....
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: I don't want to just say something that's not true.
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: I didn't think he was going to get burned, though
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't have left him in there. I was preparing
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: him to take him to his father. You think I
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: would intentionally scold him, put his clothes on, and take
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: him to his father? That doesn't make too much sense.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but Alex, at the very best, it's appalling negligence
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: by you because you were the adult in charge of him.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: That's at the very best. But that's not what you
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: pleaded guilty to. You didn't plead guilty to negligence. You
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: pleaded guilty to assault.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Their whole thing was this.
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: They needed to make me look bad to the public
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: as much as they could.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: When a boy of that age gets that bad at school,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: that's bad. You're not going to make it look bad.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: It's bad.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: Mr.
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: Morgan, this interview is not about me lying, me cheating,
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: me fornicating.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: It has nothing to do with it. This is about
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: whether you killed these three women. So let's stick to
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: the evidence of these three women.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: I'm asking you, please, this is what we're here for.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: If you want to You called me a liar. You
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: say you think I'm guilty. I know you're a liar.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: I know you're a liar. You said you're a liar.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: But I'm not a murderer. Because a liar doesn't make
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: you a murderer. I'm going to believe you, and I
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: don't believe you. Why should anyone believe you?
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: To satisfy if you're right or wrong, I mean, I
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: don't know if you.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: Do care, get the crime scene video.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: I care about these girls.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Get the crime scene video.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: And the lies they never had. And look at the picture.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: And the families whose lives have been destroyed. That's what
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: I care about. My life has been destroyed.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: My family's life has been destroyed.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: But yet I'm innocent, and.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: I'm in here.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: It's 28 years, and we tend to overlook the evidence. Alex,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: we're going around in houses. The viewers can make their
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: own minds up whether they believe you or not. We
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: have to leave it there.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: We've had a chance to put your say.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: No, I didn't have a chance.
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: You spoke, and when I tried to give you the
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: evidence to show you otherwise, you interrupted me, and now
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: we have to go.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Thank you for your time. We're good.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Well?
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: My job. All right.
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: It can be frustrating talking to anyone who is just
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: locked into their lie, locked into their story. You'd be
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: the rare guy that broke a psychopath after 28 to
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: 30 years. but Piers held his own, stuck to his guns,
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: and that's what you got to do with these guys.
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: Enrique is the poster boy for a lying psychopath who
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: lacks remorse and empathy.
• 42:34
  Speaker 16: I'm enjoying the fact to know that I'm hoping you
• 42:37
  Speaker 16: live to 99.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Because he was a player.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: Multiple personalities.
• 42:44
  Speaker 16: To this day, I meet somebody that knows him, you know,
• 42:46
  Speaker 16: that knew him.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: He was only 29 years old, right? Something around there.
• 42:49
  Speaker 16: Young guy, drove a Mercedes, always suited up. He needs
• 42:54
  Speaker 16: the reaction from other people in order to feel successful,
• 42:57
  Speaker 16: to feel complete.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: So for him to be in a box by himself,
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: it makes me feel better.
• 43:05
  Speaker 11: For a while, I just thought I was a very
• 43:07
  Speaker 11: bad judge of character. But what I realized is that
• 43:12
  Speaker 11: I was just fooled. You know, I just didn't see
• 43:16
  Speaker 11: the real person.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
• 43:25
  Speaker 7: When they read the verdict, I just looked over at
• 43:29
  Speaker 7: Jessica's mother and I was like, I gave you what
• 43:34
  Speaker 7: you needed. I gave her what she needed to hear.
• 43:51
  Speaker 12: The court imposes an indeterminate sentence, the maximum of which
• 43:56
  Speaker 12: shall be for the term of your natural life.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: And the court imposes.