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O'Brien & Doug Ep158 [July 20, 2023 Drunk People Are Annoying!] · O'Brien & Doug

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  unknown: Ridiculous.
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  SPEAKER_08: It's pistolistic.
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  SPEAKER_08: It's ludicrous.
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  SPEAKER_08: I got it.
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  SPEAKER_12: The O'Brien and Doug podcast is brought to you in part by Mojarmultimedia.com.
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  SPEAKER_12: The Red Runner in Westfield Main.
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  SPEAKER_10: And my cousin.
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  SPEAKER_10: Larry.
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  unknown: Who?
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  SPEAKER_02: Larry.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, Larry.
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  SPEAKER_10: Good morning, guy.
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  SPEAKER_10: We have a crisis here.
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  SPEAKER_10: Your bass player has disappeared and you still live.
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  SPEAKER_12: Welcome to the O'Brien and Doug podcast.
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  SPEAKER_12: I'm O'Brien.
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  SPEAKER_12: I'm Douglas.
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  SPEAKER_12: Episode 158.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's crazy, isn't it?
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  SPEAKER_02: April of was it April of 2020?
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  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_09: We started this?
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  SPEAKER_09: It was like a month after the start of the pandemic.
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  SPEAKER_09: Pandemic.
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  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And uh Yeah, we started it on Zoom.
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  unknown: Right?
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  SPEAKER_10: No, actually we started it over the phone.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, is that what it was?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  unknown: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_10: First couple episodes were over the phone, and then uh then you then we were like, oh, let's go to Zoom, and then we did it for Zoom, and then we started coming here.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, eventually.
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  SPEAKER_10: So yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: The rest is history.
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  SPEAKER_10: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh did you see my such as it was?
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  SPEAKER_10: Did you see my pedalboard?
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  SPEAKER_10: Did you see that?
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  SPEAKER_10: Your new pedalboard.
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  SPEAKER_10: Well, it's not really well, not your new one, but your new newly configured, you know, pedalboard Mark 297.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right, and I still have, and we've we talked about this.
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  SPEAKER_02: I I have a problem.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh you got a problem, man.
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  SPEAKER_02: I have a gas problem.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you've ever heard of that.
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  SPEAKER_02: I have gas.
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  SPEAKER_02: I have gas.
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  SPEAKER_02: Gear acquisition syndrome.
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  SPEAKER_02: Ah, yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's a real thing.
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  SPEAKER_10: Uh I think you have a problem with the other gas too.
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  SPEAKER_02: I do.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um so no, I have this.
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  SPEAKER_02: I I bought this um giant pedal board.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh, because it was on uh I think it was on Facebook.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, and it was a giant pedal board that had its own power and everything, and and I could put a lot of pedals on it, and it was a cheap price, so I got it.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I use I've I've been using it, you know.
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  SPEAKER_02: I've been Yeah, for quite a while.
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  SPEAKER_02: And uh it's really heavy.
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  SPEAKER_10: Well, yeah, because you got ninety-seven pedals on it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's it's also it's just it's bulky and it's cumbersome.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's pretty big.
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  SPEAKER_02: I have hernias and so I I dug out this old pedalboard that Shane made me.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um and so now I have two pedalboards.
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  SPEAKER_02: So this one has because I this is no surprise to you.
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  SPEAKER_02: I have enough pedals to fill two pedalboards.
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  SPEAKER_10: So you may have one enough to have three.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, so this is this has everything I need for a syndicate gig.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it's got my tuner and my overdrive and my um Are you gonna carry it in the suitcase again?
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't think so.
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  SPEAKER_02: No, I put a handle on it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, you did?
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
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  SPEAKER_02: So in the other pedal board, um, I have kind of everything I need for a rock gig.
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  SPEAKER_10: Ah, see.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, so so I'm I'm good to go either way.
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  SPEAKER_02: For a rock show.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I'm I was pretty excited about that.
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  SPEAKER_02: So speaking of the syndicate, uh, we had a a great gig.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh well, I mean it was eventually it was a great gig.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh at the main potato blossom festival this year.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um set up under a tent like we normally are, because we've played there, geez.
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  SPEAKER_02: The past four years?
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  SPEAKER_10: At least four or five years.
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  SPEAKER_10: At least four years.
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  SPEAKER_10: Maybe six.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um and so set up under a tent, but um and it's a good thing we were, I guess.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um just this summer has been so wet and just rainy and just miserable.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Hot, yeah, muggy, yeah, you know, but it's just it's just you know, every time we've had a show, there's been there's been rain, and this this time was no different.
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  SPEAKER_02: And uh but this one was like at least 10-15 minutes worth of I mean I use the word torrential.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was pretty d downpoury.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was nasty.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: We had to hold the hold the tent down and put all our chords and everything up on the stage.
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  SPEAKER_02: But once we got through that and the sun came out, um we had a great first set.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um not not sure we were going to because uh like what happened a couple gigs before, um our lead singer uh was was was under the weather, yeah, sort of.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: So but like you said, at least this time we were prepared.
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  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, we we knew ahead of time, so it was actually uh a little bit of smoother transitioning.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_10: So it actually worked out pretty well.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think it worked out very well, and I and if I do say so myself, I thought the song list was was pretty kicking.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because you made it.
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  SPEAKER_02: I didn't say that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh I said that.
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  SPEAKER_02: And go! Well, you know, I have never shown shown you this.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um I should show you this if I can um if I can find it, because I have uh let's see.
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  SPEAKER_02: There's this.
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  SPEAKER_02: Is this the one I'm looking at?
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  SPEAKER_02: Nope, that's not the right one.
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  SPEAKER_02: I have a word file that there's a there's a kind of a there's kind of a science to this.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I'm just gonna turn this computer so you can see.
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  SPEAKER_02: So here's our song list, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: Can you see that?
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  SPEAKER_02: Just a little bit, maybe?
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: So everything that's highlighted in yellow is from the sixties.
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  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: Everything that's highlighted in red is from the seventies.
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  SPEAKER_02: From the eighties or or beyond.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then uh non-horn songs.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so what I try to do is let me go up bigger two, because this is bigger two.
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  SPEAKER_02: So what I try to do is and I'll I'll cross out songs that we play too much sometimes.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, or that just don't go over, that I think pro that I perceive don't go over.
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  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um or that we haven't played in a long time, and so I just take those out of the mix.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I try to do four or five I uh like five big horn songs from a couple different decades, and then a non-horn song.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then I do the same thing.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's it's just kind of like it kind of and it kind of works out.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um anyway, um there's a science to it.
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  SPEAKER_10: So when when I Well, yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, when I do a set list, it's not just willy-nilly.
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  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, you put on a lab coat and uh put it, you know, get some beakers out.
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  SPEAKER_10: There's a lot of work to it.
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  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, there is.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna speaking of work, I'm gonna check and make sure this is still Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_10: Make sure everything's still A okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it is.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that's good.
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  SPEAKER_02: Good to know.
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  SPEAKER_02: Good to know.
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  SPEAKER_02: So anyway, what else is going on?
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  SPEAKER_10: Uh drunk people are annoying?
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  SPEAKER_09: Oh, yeah, we forgot to to talk about that.
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  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_10: Um That was the first thing I said to Missy today when I saw her.
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  SPEAKER_10: I saw her and I was like, You play smooth.
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  SPEAKER_10: She started laughing.
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  SPEAKER_02: So we should give that some context here.
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  SPEAKER_02: So because we played bars for a long time.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know, getting out at one o'clock in the morning, um, getting home at three o'clock in the morning, having to deal with intoxicated people.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that's what's refreshing about this band is we don't have to do that, usually.
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  SPEAKER_02: Normally.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, because we play in the afternoon or you know, l early in the evening, and there was actually no um I think there was no beer garden or it was located somewhere else.
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  SPEAKER_10: It must have been somewhere else, because usually they it's usually like right next to us.
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  SPEAKER_10: You know, reaching distance of us.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: So anyway, we played Santana's Smooth.
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  SPEAKER_02: It was on the set list.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it wasn't long after we played it that people started saying Smooth.
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  SPEAKER_10: Well, no, it was after the it was after the it was between sets.
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  SPEAKER_10: I made the mistake of staying out instead of retreating.
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  SPEAKER_10: And these two intoxicated ladies were like, Hey, we last time you guys played smooth game.
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  SPEAKER_10: I was like, Uh we already played smooth.
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  SPEAKER_10: Well, yeah, couldn't you play it again?
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  SPEAKER_10: No.
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  SPEAKER_10: Why would we do that?
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_10: And they they just would not let it go.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh no, because they were shouting for it the whole second set.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_10: And it was just it was to the point where I was like, I think I turned around to Chris and I was like, you know, I don't want to hit women, but I will stab her in the eye with a broken drumstick.
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  SPEAKER_10: I mean, she was that annoying.
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  SPEAKER_10: Every time, every time we stopped a song, it was just replace moves, play smooth.
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  SPEAKER_10: And then there was one guy like Bob Seeger, and finally Chris was like, he's not here.
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  SPEAKER_10: I mean, you know, it just did they were.
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  SPEAKER_10: Didn't we mention that we were taking requests?
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  SPEAKER_02: No, I don't think we're not.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't think so.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't think we did.
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  SPEAKER_10: I mean, the Cynic is not the kind of band that you can take.
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  SPEAKER_10: I mean, you can't really take requests because you got a horn section and they have to have charts.
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  SPEAKER_10: Right.
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  SPEAKER_10: And if they don't have that chart there, then you're not getting that song.
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  SPEAKER_10: We are not a bar band.
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  SPEAKER_10: We're not a bar band.
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  SPEAKER_10: And that's what people don't understand.
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  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_10: They just think that you yeah, we can just play it another song.
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  SPEAKER_10: No, no, it doesn't work that way.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_10: Not with this band.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then she came up on stage.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh my word, I was about I'll She walked right up in front of me on stage and said, You know what?
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  SPEAKER_02: And she starts to give us a lecture or something like that.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I said, Excuse me, miss, you're not allowed on the stage.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I turned her right around and and and walked her off the stage, and she almost tripped over some chords because she was feeling pretty good.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh John, our guest on Trumpet, says as soon as he saw her going up, he said something under his breath like, Oh my word, lady.
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  SPEAKER_02: Or something like that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um so yeah, it was we are not a bar band.
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  SPEAKER_02: And uh normally, I mean, I wouldn't say normally, but if if it were Common Crossing, we might entertain it.
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  SPEAKER_02: You know.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, we could get away with it.
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  SPEAKER_02: We could get away with it, right?
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  SPEAKER_02: You know?
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  SPEAKER_10: Right.
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  SPEAKER_10: But you can't you can't do that when you're dealing with a big horn section.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's true.
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  SPEAKER_10: It just doesn't work that way.
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  SPEAKER_10: So it's true.
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  SPEAKER_10: Even if we were doing the Reverend Funk uh I know, because yeah, we could have we probably could have done something.
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  SPEAKER_10: Something.
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  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_10: I mean because we've been in enough bands and been around long enough that between all of us we could have faked uh you know a bunch of songs that we've done over the years.
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  SPEAKER_10: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_10: But uh oh configuration, that's the word I was trying to find.
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  SPEAKER_02: Configuration of the band, yes.
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  SPEAKER_10: The the Reverend Funk configuration.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_10: Actually, that would be a cool name for it.
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  SPEAKER_02: The Reverend Funk configuration?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: I like that too.
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  SPEAKER_10: I kind of like that.
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  SPEAKER_10: Anyway, I digress.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um that's the name of the episode.
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  SPEAKER_02: Drunk People Are Annoying.
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  SPEAKER_02: I digress.
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  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, drunk people are annoying is yeah, drunk people are annoying.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's better.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because it's true.
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  SPEAKER_02: It is.
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  SPEAKER_10: And it's more of a PSA at this point.
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  SPEAKER_10: If you're going to see a band, you're drunk, shut up.
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  SPEAKER_10: Right.
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  SPEAKER_10: Keep your mouth shut.
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  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_10: We don't want to hear you.
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  SPEAKER_10: We don't care what you say.
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  SPEAKER_10: We're gonna do what we do.
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  SPEAKER_10: You can go away.
• 11:33
  SPEAKER_10: Hey, that kind of rhymed.
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  SPEAKER_10: You just wrote a song.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_10: I wrote a song.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_10: Drunk people are annoying.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, speaking of that, you just reminded me of a of a um segment that I want to do at some point.
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  SPEAKER_10: Oh, okay.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, not tonight.
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  SPEAKER_02: I want to I want to start the podcast, come up with an idea for a song, write the song on the podcast.
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  SPEAKER_10: That would take the entire podcast.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_02: I know.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_10: So uh so it's like a podcast episode.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's a whole podcast episode.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_02: We work on one song, and we we we record it for the end of the I mean we would we would include the wall of tunes and all that stuff, I think.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um I'd I'd like to think that we could probably kick out a song pretty quick.
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  SPEAKER_02: It doesn't have to be a like a deep song or anything like that.
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  SPEAKER_10: Hope you're not like you know like uh looking for a stairway to heaven type interior.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_10: No, no, no.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_02: But just something fun or you know, something, you know, what's on our mind or in the news or something like that.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I think I think we could do that.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_10: I think we could do this.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I think wouldn't that be fun?
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_10: That would actually be fun.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_10: Yes.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_10: Let's do that.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_02: Let's do that.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_02: Let's do it.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_02: So and and it will go nowhere, probably.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um You never know.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_10: It might be like the next viral hit.
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  SPEAKER_10: Because there's much worse songs out there.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_12: This is true.
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  SPEAKER_10: And they're getting lots of airplay.
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  SPEAKER_10: And you know, I should say getting lots of streams.
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  SPEAKER_02: And you never know Um what could happen.
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  SPEAKER_02: We could take a piece of that song and make it into a different song or something.
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  SPEAKER_02: The reason I say that is because uh a couple of the things that I want to talk about, and one we can talk about one next week, or we can talk about and and one this week.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna give you a choice, but here's where here's where I'm going.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_02: This one, Ultimate Classic Rock.com, and I knew all of these existed, but thankfully, UltimateClassicRo.com has put them all in one place, in one article.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_02: Here, twenty-five unreleased Van Halen songs.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_02: Oh wow.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_02: A hidden history.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_02: So these are uh either live or demos that never saw the light of day, or in the case of Another Kind of Truth, they were songs that started here and ended up in a different form on Another Kind of Truth.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: There's also and and and we can we'll I'll just let you decide which one you want to do.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um also do you remember there was uh before Gary Sharon, there was a guy named Mitch Malloy who was going to be the lead singer.
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  SPEAKER_02: They did a demo.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um I think we talked about that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we did.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and so that that's on here.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_02: A Sammy Hagar demo is on here.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of Roth demos.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um and some you've heard before probably, some turned into other songs.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um but that's that would be a great thing to talk about.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_02: Uh and then the other thing from UltimateClassicrock.com 20 songs, rock's biggest stars, refuse to play live.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm gonna give you your.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_10: So let's do the Van Halen one this week.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_02: We'll do the Van Halen and then do that one.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_02: We'll do that one next week.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_02: Unless something better comes along.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_02: So um I don't see that happening.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_02: I don't either.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_10: So I don't know why, but you're right.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_10: It's probably not gonna happen.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_10: I don't know.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_10: I'm just you know speaking out of you know, whatever, but you know, like I don't I don't think so.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_10: So I mean, you know, give it an hour.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_08: Let me let me time it.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_02: Where's my hourglass?
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_02: So as we know, as been has been reported for a long time now, a different kind of truth was um a lot of that album was old demos that they reworked.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_02: Put new words, new lyrics to and and restructured uh and everything.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_02: So uh I want to start with one of those.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_02: Uh let's see if I can find it.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um I'm I'm going past a bunch of these here.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_02: Because I don't know which one of these are the ones that well my goodness.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_02: Let me just start from the beginning then.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do that.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_02: So this one is from 1973.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and this is before Mike Anthony was even in the band.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_02: Mark Stone was the original bass player.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_02: Jim Pusey, um s was uh was an uh played keyboards, I guess.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and this is a song called Gentleman of Leisure.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_02: And you can see I mean, it's a demo, right?
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_11: But the um, I don't know.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_10: I don't know either.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_10: Maybe because it's not right again.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_08: You big dummy dummy head.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_02: Are you ready?
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_02: I'm ready.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_02: So this one is called Gentleman of Leisure.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_02: You can tell Eddie already has that riff, you know.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_02: Just doing these things with cassettes or something.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, I mean the it's planning a little fast.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_10: It's getting the you know, getting a little like.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_02: But you can see how something like that would have fit on the first album.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, easily, yeah.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_02: Or even the second album.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_02: You know, Eddie's got that the the riff.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um he's developing that brown eye.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_02: Right, exactly.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_02: Uh the next one is also from 73.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_02: This is called Glitter.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_07: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_07: I mean tell the rough.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_07: You can hear the potential though.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, yeah.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_02: 73, and he was already doing stuff like that.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_02: Man.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um this one's called Well, this is from the Cherokee Demos.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_02: And I I can't remember which one this one is.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_02: Is this Angel Eyes or is this Believe Me?
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, it is Van Helen.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_02: So this is this is Angel Eyes.
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_02: And that um there's two acoustic guitars, one of them is Roth.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_10: Roth's playing?
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_10: Well, I knew he played guitar, he just didn't do it very often.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_10: Right.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_02: Um I'm not gonna play everything here, but we'll I just wanna.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_02: This is the other one.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_02: From the same Cherokee Studios demo.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_02: This is Believe Me, and again from 1974.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, wait a minute.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_02: This is Angel Eyes.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, they've they've included two different ones on there.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_02: Here we go.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not even gonna go there, you can't even understand.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_02: I was gonna say it's very, very rough.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, Woman in Love.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_02: How about this one?
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_02: 1975.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_02: And I believe this comes from the demos that Gene Simmons heard.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_02: And then Baby Don't Leave Me Alone from the same sessions.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_06: She sits alone in that year.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_06: You want to be head to go So the chance to say the diet to go to some sleep.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_12: Oh yeah.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_06: And she says, No, no.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, that's see now that sounds like early Van Halen.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_02: Very much the first album.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_02: I'm skipping a bunch here.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_02: Um let's see.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_02: There is a song here called We Die Bold.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_06: I'm just gonna play it and I'll read about it while I'm not gonna be able to get out of the house.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_02: That was reworked for a different kind of truth, but I don't hear it.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_10: Maybe it didn't make the album.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_10: Cause it doesn't it doesn't sound for that.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_10: No.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_02: Alright, and then this one from 77.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um, this is Young and Wild.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's this wasn't even written by them.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_02: This was a uh Sherry Curry of the Runaways did that song.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_02: Uh there's this one, I Wanna Be Your Lover.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and and and because it says these these songs that you're hearing right now, like this one, Peace of Mind, was reworked for another kind of truth, a different kind of truth.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_10: But I don't remember the money.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_02: I don't remember they don't sound like anything on that album.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_10: Noodle system.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_02: This is called Peace of Mind.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_02: Of course, we're not really giving them a chance.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_02: We're not listening to them all the way through for time purposes, but um here's one called Light Up the Sky.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_02: This is not the Light Up the Sky that appeared on Van Halen 2.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_02: Uh completely different song.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I can see why it didn't appear on the side.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_10: Oh my god.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, okay, it's a little better now.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_12: You can hear the base of it.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_02: Alright, so this next one supposedly features the first part, you know Romeo's Delight?
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_02: This features the first part of Romeo's Delight's chorus.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_02: Somewhere.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_02: This is called Get the Show on the Road.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_02: And all this stuff, all this stuff can be found on YouTube.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_02: It's been on YouTube for years, so we're not really revealing anything new.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_02: It's just, it's all in one place now, thanks to Ultimate Classic Road.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_10: They just did the legwork.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_10: Right.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_10: Right there.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_10: Yep.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_10: Yep.
• 27:56
  unknown: Somebody's high.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_10: That's it.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_02: Now this this next song, Voodoo Queen, also shares something with Romeo Delight.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_09: Yep.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_09: So they just took the two of them.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_09: It's just took it combined them, yeah.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_10: It's pretty ingenious.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_09: It's neat how they've been beat up.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_07: Mean Street.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_07: It's not Roman's delight, it's Mean Street.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_10: Are you sure?
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_02: It's just, it's neat how that works.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_02: You know, how they have a completely different song.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_02: And we don't like that song the way it is.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_02: We're just gonna take this from that song and make something completely new.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, put that in this song and make it awesome.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_09: What's this?
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_02: It sounds like Hold on.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I know it.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_02: I can't believe we haven't been doing this really long.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_02: Um let me go here.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_02: Because I believe that is um Is that not from uh I can't believe I can't think of that.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_10: Well I can't either.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_10: I mean I I know that riff.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_10: Hang 'em high.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_10: Ah, thank you, yes.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_10: That was off the second one, right?
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_02: That was off uh no, it was off Diver Down.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_10: I was off Diver Down.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_02: Which essentially was all covers except for a few of them, including that one.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_02: This is a demo called Last Night.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_02: So they use that riff to make to make hang them high.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it makes sense.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_02: So let's see, what's this one?
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_02: This is called Gonna Take a Lot of Drugs.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_02: Very discret.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_02: I almost think that was a joke.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_02: I almost think they had to be they must have done that because that was very Larson's uh Lot of Love.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, uh let me play it.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_02: Let me let me just keep playing it.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_02: Moving off.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_02: So let's see.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_02: Now we're going to nineteen seventy-seven.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_02: Um the guitar intro of this next song resurfaced on 1995's Balance.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um Take Me Back, Tasha.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_02: So this is No More Waiting Live from Nineteen Seventy Seven, maybe.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_10: So they just kept that riff and just did something else completely.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_10: Right.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, okay.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_02: Uh let's see.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_02: This one is called Just What You Wanted.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_02: Here's uh here's just what you wanted.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_02: Stop that one right there.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_02: Um this one, the shape you're in from nineteen seventy-seven.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_02: Pretty cool.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_02: Just moving on, just getting a little piece of each one here.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_02: One more time.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_02: This was an unreleased song.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_10: That sounds like something.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_09: The quality on these varying, you know, I mean it's but the riff sounds like something.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_03: Somebody give me a doctor.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's what it sounds like.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_03: That's what it's a somebody give me a doctor.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yep, it does have similarities to that.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um see, act like it hurts.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_02: This is from nineteen eighty.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, little bit.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_02: Do you know what I mean?
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying they're all the same, but they have a definite a definitive riff that the song is built around.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_02: Uh or or maybe even two, two or three definitive riffs that the song is built around.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_02: It's interesting.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_02: Uh now we're gonna dive into uh a lost song from 5150.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_02: Um and I can see why this one did not make the album.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_02: This is called I Want Some Action.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_07: Almost sounds like stuck on the three pieces.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_10: Well it sounds like the very first uh the very first cutoff good in the yeah.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_10: It's got that same feel, that same vibe.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_10: Yes, it does.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_02: I haven't gotten to the chorus yet.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_02: But you can see how that was left off.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I mean it's uh it's it's it's it's just a jam, basically.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_02: But I mean, they're and they're not including all of the demos here.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_02: Um there's these are from nineteen ninety-91, which I'm assuming came from the uh Unlawful Carnal Knowledge album.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_09: Probably.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_02: Um You Never Know, The Wish, Out of the Ether.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_02: Um I Remember Shaker, Backdoor Shuffle, Numb to the Touch.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_02: These are all songs that uh we've never heard.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_02: It's the Right Time from 1996.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_02: Uh which would have been actually I have that one in the album.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, no, uh 1996 would have been before Gary Sharone but after battles.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_02: So this is with Mitch Malloy.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so this is the demo uh that Mitch Malloy did with them.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um and I always said that Mitch Malloy's a great singer, but it would have completely changed anything.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_02: Gary Sharone um was gonna say the right choice, but they chose Gary Sharone over Mitch Malloy, and it was the right choice.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_02: I think because Gary Sharone sounded a lot like Sammy, he already could, yeah, but he could also pull off the Roth songs.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_10: Right.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_02: Mitch Malloy seems like a crooner.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I'm I'll just play it.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_02: So this is this is it's the right time, Van Halen with Mitch Malloy.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_02: I just want to completely change Van Halen, I think.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_05: I had a few more little days, yeah.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_06: Cause it's so many if you can make it change and make it lease.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_02: I'm assuming Mitch Malloy wrote these lyrics.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_02: A brand new lease on a better life.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's kinda it's it's it's like middle of the road.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's you could get they they get on adult contemporary radio with that song, I think, probably.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_10: Well, they tore with James Taylor, is what they would do.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, right.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, this next one is one that did not make Van Halen 3.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_02: Uh actually, let me see.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_10: How bad is a song that doesn't make Van Halen 3?
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so this was a last-minute scratch from the album.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_02: So this is called That's Why I Love You.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_02: Gary Sharone and Van Halen.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's not good.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_10: This is now.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_10: I'm trying to find something redeeming about it, but I just can't.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, it's not good.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_02: It's not good.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_02: Um and then there's uh a couple more a bunch more with Gary Sharon that we don't have.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_02: Left for Dead, say Uncle You Wear It Well, River Wide, all from 1999.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, which would have been that actually might have been the album that they were working on after Van Halen 3.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_02: Van Halen 4.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_02: Uh well actually it says Van Halen's website reported that the band had written about uh more than 20 new songs for the follow-up to Van Halen 3.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_02: But they never did anything with it.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_02: That's probably good.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_02: So now we get into a different kind of truth.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_02: So obviously you know this song.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_02: This is this 1977 version.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_02: 76.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_02: This became She's the Woman.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_02: And I think this might be intact.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_02: He may have changed a few of the lyrics.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_02: Nope, maybe not.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_02: Completely changed lyrics.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_07: Curious what the chorus sounds like.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that part stayed the same.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_02: Uh and then next we have Big Trouble, which became Big River.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_02: So this was recorded back in seventy-six.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_02: So far.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_06: So we lose that back.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_02: And just just for comparison, uh this is from the album.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, pretty close.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_02: And of course I think they obviously changed some of the lyrics.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_02: And then you have this one.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna see if you can, this was an instrumental.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_02: Back in um 1984.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_02: See if you can see if you can place the song.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_02: It's called Ripley.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_02: Do you recognize that at all?
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_02: It's from uh from a different kind of truth.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_02: What song is this?
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_02: Blood and fire.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_11: Huh?
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_12: This is actually one of my favorite songs on the album.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_02: So that was Ripley.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_02: That was an instrumental from 1984.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_02: And then this one, the first single from another a different kind of truth.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_02: Do you remember what it was?
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_09: Uh tattoo tattoo.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_02: So it's interesting.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_02: They just completely changed the lyrics in the uh is one called Let's Get Rockin'.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not sure what this is.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_03: Oh.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_07: That's another Van Hamilton song.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_07: What is that?
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, is it Hold on, hold on, is it this one?
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_02: Uh another one from uh Different Kind of Truth?
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_07: That's pretty darn close.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_02: Or is it this one?
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_02: Nope, it's not this one.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_02: Not that one.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_02: Hold on a second.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_02: I recognize that though.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_02: I recognize that riff.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_06: Um I don't know.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_02: I can't place it.
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_02: Uh how about this one?
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_02: Put out the lights.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_02: That's something else too.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_10: That was not the one we were just listening to.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_02: Is it?
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_02: Is it the the this this one?
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, beats working.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_02: That's just it's kind of mind blowing, actually.
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_02: Uh then they do have uh bullet head on there, and the la that's the last one that they have.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_02: So so bullet head on the uh on the different kind of truth is this.
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_02: Alright, so let me just play a little bit of bullet from 77.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_02: Then we'll wrap this up.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe I will.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_02: So anyway, that to me is pretty cool how the songwriting process works.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_02: And and you know, people may have known those songs back in the 70s for what they w what they were originally, and they took pieces of them and made completely different songs.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I don't know.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_02: I just think that's interesting.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I mean it's just like, you know, why you know why ra waste a good riff?
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_10: Right.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_10: You know?
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_10: I mean, maybe it didn't work back in the 70s, maybe it'll work in the 2000s.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_10: Right.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_10: You know.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_02: And and it did for to a large degree.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_02: And a different kind of truth.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_02: I I think a different kind of truth doesn't get the credit it deserves because people said it was just a a bunch of old riffs, which is fine, you know.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_10: But yeah, but they were riffs that we weren't familiar with.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_02: And some of the best lyrics of of Dave Roth's career.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, he he really uh came into his own.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_02: He really did.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_02: He really did.
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_02: Alright, so that's that.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_02: That's on ultimate classicrock.com, by the way, in case you're looking for all of that in one place.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so let's do this.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_02: Let's read from the let's push a button.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_09: Heavy metal uh alphabet.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_09: Beckfiner.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_09: Beckfiner.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_10: Beckfiner.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_10: Finer.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_10: What letter are we on?
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_02: Am I keeping you up?
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you are.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_02: I can tell you what letter we're on.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_02: The letter of the day last week was J.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_10: Okay, so we're on K.
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_10: Alright.
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_10: I'm ready.
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_10: Did you want to guess?
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_02: K would be uh so it's what so it's metal?
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_02: Um it's metal-ish.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_02: Metal-ish.
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_02: The only thing I can think of is Kansas and it's not Kansas.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_02: Uh it is one word.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_02: It is one word?
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_10: Corn.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, really?
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_10: That's why I said that.
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, so it's new metal.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_10: It's new metal.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, okay.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_10: K is for corn.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_10: When it comes to new metal, we've all been following the leader corn.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_10: What?
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_10: What?
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_10: When it comes to new metal, we've all been following the leader.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_10: Is that a name of a corn song?
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_02: Follow the leader?
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_10: I have no idea.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_10: I'm so unfamiliar with corn.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_10: Uh ever since forming in the early 90s, they've been playing slow, deep, and heavy with a hint of hip-hop, earning themselves a couple of well-deserved Grammys.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_10: These Freaks on a Leash, which is a song, uh, are one of Metal's most legendary bands.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_10: I don't know about legendary.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_10: I don't either.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_10: But uh Yeah, okay.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_10: So I guess uh I guess Korn made the cut.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't know if I agree with that.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_10: But I mean, I'm I don't know.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_02: I don't either.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_10: It i it is is metal-ish, like I said.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_02: I'd be interested to see the whole alphabet and find out who's not in there.
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_10: Well, we we know Kansas isn't it?
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_02: Well, Kansas isn't really metal.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_02: But I mean when you get to when we get to when we get to M, we know who it's gonna be.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_02: Meg Megadeth.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_02: But right.
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, why is it why isn't Megadeth in there?
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I'm uh I'm now I'm curious because I want to skip ahead now.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_02: Well, it's gotta be.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_02: It's gotta be.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_02: Don't give it away if it is.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_10: Anyway.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_02: Is it?
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, you didn't look.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_10: I'm not telling.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_10: I'm not gonna tell.
• 53:41
  SPEAKER_10: Alright, so that's the letter of the day.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_02: Letter letter K.
• 53:47
  SPEAKER_02: Alright, we're gonna take a break.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_02: We'll come back, we'll do the wall of tunes.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, don't break my stuff.
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_02: Actually, that's my stuff.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_02: That's your stuff.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_02: I don't care.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_08: Never mind, go ahead.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_08: It's my book, it's my book.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_08: My book meets my book.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_08: I don't like you, book.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_08: Alright.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_08: Um yeah.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_02: How was that?
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_02: That's my stuff.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_02: We'll uh we'll uh take a break, we'll come back and we'll do the wall of tunes.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_10: What is that?
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_10: Is that like a chime?
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, it's a it's a yeah, there we go.
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_10: Can I help you?
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I'm gonna take a break.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna come back and do the wall of dunes, so sit tight.
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_02: What does that actually mean, sit tight?
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_02: Somebody clump it clamp your butt cheeks together.
• 54:38
  SPEAKER_10: I I think it I think it refers to the early construction of chairs.
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_10: Where they were made of rope.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_10: And you had to tighten them.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_10: No, I because that's what they used to make beds out of.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_10: That's what that's where the expression sleep tight came from.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_10: Because you had to periodically tighten the ropes off of your bed because it would go slack.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_02: Tell me what it means.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_02: It doesn't come to work.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_10: Well, then my definition is correct.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_02: Alright, that's the only thing I can come up with, too.
• 55:30
  SPEAKER_02: There we go.
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_10: There you go.
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_10: I'm a genius.
• 55:32
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• 55:33
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  SPEAKER_02: And we're back.
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_02: We're back.
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_02: And it's time to climb the wall.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_02: Time the walk off to make it official.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_10: Gotta have the music.
• 56:47
  SPEAKER_10: Otherwise, it doesn't count.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_02: Alright.
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_02: So Doug's history.
• 56:53
  SPEAKER_02: What do we call it again?
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_02: I keep forgetting what we call it.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_02: History in a nutshell.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_02: History in a nutshell.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_02: Uh let's see.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_02: The history of Fender guitars.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_10: Fender guitars.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_10: Well, there was a guy named Steve Fender.
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_10: I don't know why I I like the name Steve.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_10: I guess you do.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_10: I I don't know.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_10: That's always whenever I have to make up a name, that's usually one of the first.
• 57:11
  SPEAKER_10: It's either Steve or Andre.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_10: Okay, so it was Andre Fender.
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_10: So Leo, but that's okay.
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_10: I know.
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_10: I'm trying.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_10: This is mine.
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_10: Oh yeah, that's right.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_10: It's my history.
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_10: It's an alternative history, if you will.
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_10: Um, so Andre Fender and his brother Steve and their cousin Leo uh decided that, you know, like, hey, we like guitars.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_10: They're pretty cool.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_10: What would happen if we made a guitar that ran on electricity?
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_10: And Leo's like, whoa.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_10: Brilliant, man! So, yeah, so it was, you know, because Andre worked at General Electric and Steve uh worked at the post office.
• 57:59
  SPEAKER_10: And Leo, um he he was he he was a genius.
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_10: Uh he was a professor of quantum physics at uh Harvard.
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_10: I did not know that.
• 58:09
  SPEAKER_10: Yes, that's it's a little known fact.
• 58:10
  SPEAKER_10: I mean, not many people talk about that.
• 58:13
  SPEAKER_10: And so so, you know, combining their you know, their their knowledge of letters, electricity, and quantum physics, they were like we can make a guitar that's way better than any other guitar out there on the planet.
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_10: Did any of them play a guitar?
• 58:29
  SPEAKER_10: I don't think so.
• 58:30
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, okay.
• 58:32
  SPEAKER_10: I think I think that's actually isn't isn't it actually true that Leo Fender didn't play guitar?
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_10: I don't know.
• 58:37
  SPEAKER_10: I know Les Paul played guitar.
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_10: Right.
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_10: But I don't know if Leo Fender played guitar.
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_10: Anyway, it doesn't really it doesn't really go with the story because it doesn't matter.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_10: Um at first they tried, you know, hooking it up to a a uh a windmill.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_10: You know.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_10: And it didn't work so well because it just it's just too big, and you know, flying to Holland to play all the time just doesn't work.
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_10: So, you know, they were like, well, let's make it smaller.
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_10: Why don't we plug it into a radio a Bob Dylan at the Newport Jazz Festival?
• 59:12
  SPEAKER_10: And they're like, whoa.
• 59:15
  SPEAKER_10: That's brilliant.
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_10: So, you know, so they were like, let's take a radio.
• 59:19
  SPEAKER_10: If what if what if the radio didn't play radio songs, but it played whatever came out of the guitar.
• 59:28
  SPEAKER_10: They're like, whoa.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_10: That's awesome.
• 59:33
  SPEAKER_10: And so they just so they just got a Sears uh acoustic guitar and uh you know, you know, hooked some wires up to it, and then they plugged it into their Victrola.
• 59:45
  SPEAKER_10: And you know, and and and you know, just you know, they probably played at E chord, you know, 'cause everybody does.
• 59:53
  SPEAKER_10: You know, and and then uh you know they were just like, Man, that's coming through the radio.
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_10: Hey, put it on uh 961 and see if it comes out better.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_10: And then so you know, it didn't really, because it didn't really matter. 'Cause cause the radio didn't work anymore because they gutted it, you know.
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_10: Because they're you know, they don't want it to play radio songs, they wanted to play whatever was coming out of the guitar.
• 1:00:13
  SPEAKER_10: Right.
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_10: So I mean it just made sense to just gut the radio part of it.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_10: All they needed really was a speaker and a plug-in.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_10: You know.
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_10: And I think they plugged it into the headphone jack, if I remember correctly.
• 1:00:27
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, I just you are right, by the way, Leo Fender didn't play a note on the case.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't think he did.
• 1:00:32
  SPEAKER_10: I think that part's actually true.
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_10: The the rest of this is complete crap.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_10: So I hope nobody's like listening to this.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, that that Doug is amazing.
• 1:00:41
  SPEAKER_10: He knows so many things right off the top of his head.
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_10: So, yeah, that's how they became that's uh and and so uh that's how we got Fender guitars.
• 1:00:50
  SPEAKER_10: Oh wow.
• 1:00:50
  SPEAKER_10: So it's it's a very it's a thank you.
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_10: Thank you very much.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_10: It's uh it's a true story I made up.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_10: So, you know.
• 1:00:57
  SPEAKER_10: That's uh oh there we go.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_10: I like that.
• 1:00:59
  SPEAKER_10: I like it better when it fancy.
• 1:01:01
  SPEAKER_10: I like that.
• 1:01:01
  SPEAKER_10: That's so much nicer.
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_02: Alright, so uh while you were telling your story, I found a CD.
• 1:01:07
  SPEAKER_02: Alright.
• 1:01:08
  SPEAKER_02: Off the wall of tunes.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_02: So let the guessing begin.
• 1:01:12
  SPEAKER_10: It's uh ABBA.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_10: No.
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_10: Journey?
• 1:01:15
  SPEAKER_10: Nope.
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_10: I would have laughed at one of those.
• 1:01:18
  SPEAKER_10: Uh is it a band or a solo guy?
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_10: Solo artists.
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, it's a solo.
• 1:01:21
  SPEAKER_10: Is it a man or a woman?
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_09: Man.
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_09: It's a man.
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_02: Uh ask your your normal questions because it might throw you.
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, might throw me?
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_09: It's a little bit Jackie Chan.
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_02: No, it's a little different.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
• 1:01:40
  SPEAKER_09: A little different.
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_09: And ask ask your normal questions.
• 1:01:43
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 1:01:43
  SPEAKER_09: Uh height of popularity.
• 1:01:46
  SPEAKER_09: Um 70s and 80s.
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_02: Well, actually, uh 60s and 70s.
• 1:01:51
  SPEAKER_09: I guess.
• 1:01:51
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 1:01:52
  SPEAKER_09: Um Is he still around?
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_09: No.
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_09: Is he dead?
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_10: Yes.
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
• 1:01:58
  SPEAKER_10: It's Elvis.
• 1:01:58
  SPEAKER_10: No.
• 1:01:59
  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_10: Is he Elvis like?
• 1:02:04
  SPEAKER_09: No.
• 1:02:05
  SPEAKER_10: Does he play an instrument?
• 1:02:06
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 1:02:08
  SPEAKER_10: Guitar.
• 1:02:08
  SPEAKER_10: Play guitar.
• 1:02:10
  SPEAKER_10: It's uh Gordon Lightfoot.
• 1:02:11
  SPEAKER_02: No, ask me what genre.
• 1:02:13
  SPEAKER_10: Okay, what genre?
• 1:02:14
  SPEAKER_02: Country.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_10: Oh.
• 1:02:16
  SPEAKER_02: From the 60s and 70s.
• 1:02:18
  SPEAKER_10: Mel Tillis.
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_10: Nope.
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_10: Whalen Jennings.
• 1:02:21
  SPEAKER_10: Nope.
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_10: George Jones.
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_10: Nope.
• 1:02:25
  SPEAKER_10: Hank Williams.
• 1:02:26
  SPEAKER_10: Nope.
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_10: No, he was dead by then.
• 1:02:29
  SPEAKER_10: Uh Hank Williams Jr.?
• 1:02:31
  SPEAKER_10: Nope.
• 1:02:32
  SPEAKER_10: Hmm.
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_10: Country.
• 1:02:35
  SPEAKER_10: Was it like renegade country or is it like straight up country?
• 1:02:39
  SPEAKER_10: Um.
• 1:02:41
  SPEAKER_02: Bakersfield country.
• 1:02:43
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, it's uh Mel Tillis.
• 1:02:45
  SPEAKER_10: Nope.
• 1:02:45
  SPEAKER_10: No.
• 1:02:46
  SPEAKER_10: Uh Merle Haggard.
• 1:02:48
  unknown: Ha ha ha!
• 1:02:49
  SPEAKER_10: There we go.
• 1:02:49
  SPEAKER_10: That's- I knew we came up with a reason for that, Mel.
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_10: Nice! Merle Haggard, yes!
• 1:02:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, it is a two CD set.
• 1:02:56
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Merl Haggard's 40 greatest tits.
• 1:02:58
  SPEAKER_02: Well, there you go.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: So let's uh, I mean, this one you you know.
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  SPEAKER_02: So this is a little different for us, but come on.
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  SPEAKER_02: Merle Haggard.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's Merle Haggard.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's Merle Haggard.
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  SPEAKER_02: Today I started loving you again.
• 1:03:15
  SPEAKER_04: Today I started loving you again.
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  SPEAKER_02: Just like you knew that was coming up.
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  SPEAKER_04: Again.
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  SPEAKER_02: I worked in radio a long time.
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  SPEAKER_02: I posted it.
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  SPEAKER_02: What?
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm right back.
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  SPEAKER_02: So we're I've already.
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  SPEAKER_02: What you notice about a lot of Merle songs is you can plug in a different melody.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's a different song.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's like fill in the blanks.
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  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_10: It's like insert lyric here.
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  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: Then today I started loving you again.
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  SPEAKER_11: Well, today I started no, I'm excited.
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  SPEAKER_04: Silver we this is pure country.
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  SPEAKER_10: This is the country I enjoy.
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  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, me too.
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  SPEAKER_10: You know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_10: This is the country I grew up on.
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  SPEAKER_10: Right.
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  SPEAKER_10: You know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_04: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_04: It is somewhere.
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  SPEAKER_10: Because I'll tell you what, cousin Larry will back this up.
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  SPEAKER_10: Uncle Larry, this was his country.
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  SPEAKER_10: Well, this is anything about anything, I think anything past the 70s was not country to Uncle Larry.
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  SPEAKER_10: Right.
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  SPEAKER_10: Well, it probably was, but he he preferred the old country.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I do too.
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  SPEAKER_02: I like some of the new stuff.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, actually, the the stuff that's from like the last five, ten years, I struggled to enjoy.
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  SPEAKER_10: I mean it's not it has its place, but I I don't it just all sounds the same to me.
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  SPEAKER_10: It does.
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  SPEAKER_02: It does sound the same.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: I like the 90s.
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  SPEAKER_02: I like the 90s country.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh some of the 80s.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, but it doesn't get much better than Mama Tride, Merle Hagar.
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  SPEAKER_02: Come on.
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  SPEAKER_04: The first thing I remember knowing was a lonesome whistle blowing, and the youngest dream of growing up to ride.
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  SPEAKER_04: On a freight train, leaving town, not knowing where I'm bound, and no one can change my mind, but mama try.
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  SPEAKER_02: This is one and all we do a Merle Haggard song in the Star City Syndicate.
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  SPEAKER_02: We do.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's fairly new.
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  SPEAKER_08: People like that's crazy talk.
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  SPEAKER_02: Before I tell you which one, I want to play you one of my favorite Merle Haggard songs.
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  SPEAKER_02: This one right here.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, this is a good one.
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  SPEAKER_02: This is a relatively new song for Merle Haggard.
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  SPEAKER_02: This is like an 80s.
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  SPEAKER_02: This is like the 80s.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: This is a great song.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's the way love goes.
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  SPEAKER_02: This is over my I get goosebumps because this is like from my childhood.
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  SPEAKER_02: Record player.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Most of my life.
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  SPEAKER_10: Searching for the water.
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  SPEAKER_10: I remember hearing this on W O Z I.
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  SPEAKER_10: Over I used to work at With me.
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  SPEAKER_03: Chasing my ranking bowls.
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  SPEAKER_03: Honey.
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  SPEAKER_03: I love you too.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that's the way love goes.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's the way love goes pay.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's the muse.
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  SPEAKER_02: Okay, then there's this one.
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  SPEAKER_02: This is a song that we do.
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  SPEAKER_04: It's a big job just getting by with nine kids and slightly different.
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  SPEAKER_02: Slightly different.
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  SPEAKER_02: But I this is the work of man blues.
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  SPEAKER_04: Man dang your all my life and keep on working.
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  SPEAKER_04: Long's my two hands are fit to use.
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  SPEAKER_02: So this is our version.
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  SPEAKER_05: It's a big job just getting by with nine kids in a white.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's actually Eli Paperboy Read, but we do this version.
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  SPEAKER_05: Dangly.
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  SPEAKER_07: One of my favorite songs to play, actually.
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  SPEAKER_07: I know.
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  SPEAKER_07: It's just so fun.
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  SPEAKER_10: So great.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'll break my beer in a tavern.
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  SPEAKER_05: Single in a penalty's working manu.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: So uh Merle Man.
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  SPEAKER_02: The Hag.
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  SPEAKER_02: The Hag.
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  SPEAKER_02: Do you have a do you have a favorite uh Merle Hagart song?
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  SPEAKER_02: Not really, no.
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  SPEAKER_10: I just I just you know.
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  SPEAKER_02: This is Big City.
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  SPEAKER_02: Big City, turn me loose.
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  SPEAKER_02: Set me free.
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  SPEAKER_02: I do like this one.
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  SPEAKER_02: Hold on.
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  SPEAKER_04: I could be holding you tonight.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, this is a good one, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think I'll just sit here and drink.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_03: Or stay here and drink.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, and then um one that wasn't politically correct back then.
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  SPEAKER_02: Actually, no, it was politically correct back then.
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  SPEAKER_02: Thank you very much.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because most people agreed with it.
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  SPEAKER_02: What is this one?
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  SPEAKER_02: Proud to be an Okie from Muskoki.
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  SPEAKER_10: Okie from Muskoki, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um I don't know if you read the news.
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  SPEAKER_04: We don't smoke Meryl.
• 1:08:41
  SPEAKER_02: Jason Aldean's in a little bit of hot water.
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  SPEAKER_02: Did you see that at all?
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  SPEAKER_10: No.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh he has a new song that's upsetting um people on the uh not the right, but the burn our trap cards down.
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  SPEAKER_02: A song is called Um Try That in a Small Town.
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  SPEAKER_10: Ah, okay.
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  SPEAKER_10: Um I can I can just imagine where that's going.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and it was it was there's a lot of people that like the song, but then there's a lot of people that say it's racist.
• 1:09:13
  SPEAKER_02: And he's saying it's not racist.
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  SPEAKER_02: He's just trying to say how a small town would come together and help their people.
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  SPEAKER_02: And if there was somebody committing crimes, you wouldn't get away with it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because we would take care of our own.
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  SPEAKER_10: Okay.
• 1:09:28
  SPEAKER_02: You know, that type of thing.
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  SPEAKER_02: But but you know, uh people are obviously reading into it, and like some of the words are because it's very pro-Second Amendment.
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  SPEAKER_02: I got a g got a gun that my granddaddy gave me.
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  SPEAKER_02: They say one day they're gonna round them up.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, that blank might fly in the city.
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  SPEAKER_02: Good luck.
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  SPEAKER_02: Try that in a small town, see how far you make it down the road.
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  SPEAKER_02: Around here we take care of our own.
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  SPEAKER_02: You cross that line, it won't take long for you to find out.
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  SPEAKER_02: I recommend you don't try that in a small town.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I get it, but he's in a lot of hot water.
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  SPEAKER_02: They pulled his video from CMT.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, because somebody started crying.
• 1:10:04
  SPEAKER_02: So I just I you know, but this was this was pretty back in the day.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_10: Um first time I ever heard this song was it was on the platoon soundtrack.
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  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_10: Great soundtrack.
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  SPEAKER_10: Oh, it was an awesome soundtrack.
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  SPEAKER_10: Great soundtrack.
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  SPEAKER_10: One of the greatest of all time.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I agree.
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  SPEAKER_04: The college deep.
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  SPEAKER_02: So anyway, that is your uh Wall of Tunes um artist of the week.
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  SPEAKER_02: And that is the Haggard.
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  SPEAKER_02: The Hag.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that's it.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's uh episode, what did we say it was?
• 1:10:39
  SPEAKER_02: 158.
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  SPEAKER_02: 158.
• 1:10:40
  SPEAKER_02: 158.
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  SPEAKER_02: 158.
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  SPEAKER_02: 158.
• 1:10:45
  SPEAKER_02: Alright, so I guess we're gonna we'll close it up.
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  SPEAKER_02: We'll wrap it up.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, I didn't do this.
• 1:10:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_10: There we go.
• 1:10:52
  SPEAKER_10: I'm not sure that's how we end it, but that's how we're in it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:10:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so that's the Wall of Tunes, and that's episode 158.
• 1:11:01
  SPEAKER_02: So until uh next week.
• 1:11:03
  SPEAKER_02: Next week.
• 1:11:04
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• 1:11:08
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• 1:11:10
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• 1:11:12
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• 1:11:24
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• 1:11:26
  SPEAKER_02: What?
• 1:11:27
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• 1:11:29
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• 1:11:31
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