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- 0:00Imagine it is a little after two in
- 0:03the morning.
- 0:04You are somewhere near Taos, New Mexico.
- 0:08It is dark in a way many of
- 0:10us almost never experience anymore.
- 0:13There is no endless highway.
- 0:16There is no constant traffic.
- 0:17The mountains sit like black walls against the
- 0:20night sky.
- 0:21And when the wind dies down, the silence
- 0:24can be almost physical.
- 0:27Then you hear it.
- 0:28It is not loud.
- 0:29It is not a siren.
- 0:31It is not even a sound that you
- 0:32can easily identify.
- 0:34It sounds more like an engine, a diesel
- 0:36engine, far away.
- 0:38Maybe a truck sitting somewhere on the other
- 0:41side of the house.
- 0:42You wait for it to drive away.
- 0:45It does not.
- 0:46You walk to the window.
- 0:47There is no vehicle.
- 0:48You open the door.
- 0:49Outside the sound may actually become weaker.
- 0:52You go back inside.
- 0:54And now it seems stronger again.
- 0:57You turn off the refrigerator, the ventilation.
- 1:00Anything electrical you can think of, but it
- 1:03is still there.
- 1:04A deep, steady hum.
- 1:06Some people describe it as a sound.
- 1:08Others describe it as almost like a pressure,
- 1:11a vibration.
- 1:12Something right on the edge between hearing and
- 1:15feeling.
- 1:16And the strangest part, the person standing next
- 1:19to you may not hear anything at all.
- 1:22This is the story of the Taos Hum.
- 1:25And if you are experiencing that, by the
- 1:27end of this episode we will be able
- 1:30to point one machine in the desert and
- 1:33say, there it is.
- 1:34That is the sound.
- 1:35Well, it gets more complicated than that.
- 1:40Because scientists have looked.
- 1:41Engineers have measured.
- 1:43Sensitive microphones have been used.
- 1:45So have electromagnetic instruments and seismic equipment.
- 1:50And the harder people have tried
- 1:51to find the Hum...
- 1:54the more important another question has
- 1:56become: Was there ever only one?
- 2:05Why are we still talking about it?
- 2:07Taos is almost the perfect place for a
- 2:10mystery like this.
- 2:12The town sits in the landscape that seems
- 2:14made for strange stories.
- 2:18To the east are the Sangre de Cristo
- 2:21mountains.
- 2:23The Rio Grande cuts through the land at
- 2:25the west of the town.
- 2:27Taos Pueblo sits only a few miles away.
- 2:30It represents the Native American culture with roots
- 2:33that go back long before the United States
- 2:35existed.
- 2:37The area has attracted artists, wriTaos, spiritual seekers,
- 2:43hippies, scientists, and people who simply want to
- 2:46live far away from big cities.
- 2:48Then in the early 1990s, a strange story
- 2:51began to spread.
- 2:52Some people could hear sound.
- 2:53Other people could not.
- 2:56The people who heard it described it as
- 2:58slightly different ways.
- 3:01But certain details came up again and again.
- 3:05A low hum, a rumble, a buzz, something
- 3:09mechanical.
- 3:10It often seemed strongest at night.
- 3:12And in some cases people said that it
- 3:15was worse inside their homes than outside.
- 3:19And the last detail mattered.
- 3:22Most of us think that if a sound
- 3:24comes from the outside, a house should protect
- 3:27us from it.
- 3:28But some very low frequencies do not always
- 3:32behave that way.
- 3:34Low frequency sound has a long wavelength.
- 3:38It can move through and around buildings differently
- 3:41from higher frequency sounds like speech.
- 3:46Walls, floors, pipes, and rooms can also resonate.
- 3:51It means some frequencies can actually become stronger
- 3:54in certain parts of a building.
- 3:56So the reports are not physically impossible, but
- 4:01there is only one major problem.
- 4:04Nobody could find the source.
- 4:08The story eventually reached politicians, and in 1993
- 4:13it was taken seriously enough that researchers from
- 4:16several major institutions became involved.
- 4:19This included the University of New Mexico, Sandia
- 4:23National Laboratories, Los Alamos National Laboratory, and Philips
- 4:28Air Force Laboratory.
- 4:30That is worth emphasizing.
- 4:33The story is sometimes told as if scientists
- 4:36simply laughed and said, people must be imagining
- 4:39these things.
- 4:41That is not what happened.
- 4:44They investigated it.
- 4:46And that takes us to the established story.
- 4:52One of the key people involved was engineer
- 4:54Joe Mullins from the University of New Mexico.
- 4:58The investigation was basically trying to answer two
- 5:01questions.
- 5:02First, how many people were actually experiencing the
- 5:06hum?
- 5:07And second, can we measure anything in the
- 5:10environment that matches what those people are hearing?
- 5:13Researchers carried out a population study.
- 5:16The word hearer began to be used for
- 5:20people who experienced the hum.
- 5:22The result shows an interesting pattern.
- 5:25The hearer was not at all one type
- 5:28of person.
- 5:29It was not of all men.
- 5:30It was not of all women.
- 5:32It was not at all one age group.
- 5:35Later materials from the Acoustical Society of America
- 5:39said that about 72% of the hearers
- 5:42were between the age 30 and 59.
- 5:46Men and women were represented roughly equal numbers.
- 5:51Most people reported hearing the hum between about
- 5:558 at night and 9 in the morning.
- 5:58If researchers assumed that every hearer in the
- 6:01study had answered the survey, the number suggested
- 6:05a conservative minimum of around 2% of
- 6:08the population.
- 6:09We would be careful with that number.
- 6:12It does not prove that exactly 2%
- 6:14of all humans can hear the hum.
- 6:16It was an estimate from that particular study,
- 6:20but it tells us something important.
- 6:22We are not talking about an entire town
- 6:24hearing the same thing.
- 6:25We are talking about a minority.
- 6:29Then came the measurements.
- 6:32If a large industrial machine somewhere is producing
- 6:35a strong, low-frequency tone, you would expect
- 6:38that, in theory, sensitive equipment should be able
- 6:43to detect something.
- 6:45If vibrations are moving through the ground, seismic
- 6:48equipment might find them.
- 6:51If the case is electromagnetic, it could also
- 6:55be investigated.
- 6:56Researchers placed sensitive equipment around people who experienced
- 7:01the hum, and the results were frustrating.
- 7:06They did not find physical signals that clearly
- 7:08matched the moment when the hearer said, there,
- 7:13I can hear it right now.
- 7:15That means something very specific.
- 7:17It does not mean that the hum does
- 7:19not exist.
- 7:19It means that the researchers could not find
- 7:22an outside physical source using the methods they
- 7:26had.
- 7:27And right there, the mystery splits in different
- 7:31possibilities.
- 7:32What happens if a person says, I can
- 7:34hear it right now, but the microphone next
- 7:36to them does not record the expected sound?
- 7:39Maybe the equipment is not measuring the right
- 7:42thing.
- 7:43Maybe the signal reaches the body through a
- 7:45process that the microphone cannot detect.
- 7:47Or maybe the experience begins somewhere else, inside
- 7:51the body, inside the ear, inside the nervous
- 7:55system.
- 7:56That is another problem, too.
- 7:58The hearer did not always describe or match
- 8:01exactly the same frequency.
- 8:03That makes it difficult to talk about the
- 8:06Taos Hum as a single sound.
- 8:09So if it was not a normal outside
- 8:13sound, then what was it?
- 8:15If we look at the first cracks, this
- 8:21is where the story gets more interesting.
- 8:23The first problem may actually be our basic
- 8:26idea of hearing.
- 8:27We often say that a normal human hearing
- 8:30starts, runs about 20 hertz to 20,000
- 8:34hertz.
- 8:35And people sometimes take that to mean that
- 8:3919 hertz is complete silence.
- 8:42That is not true.
- 8:43A sound goes lower in frequency, it usually
- 8:48becomes much stronger before we can detect it.
- 8:52But humans can detect a sound below 20
- 8:55hertz if the sound pressure is high enough.
- 8:59And very low frequencies do not always feel
- 9:03like normal sound.
- 9:05A tone can begin, feels like a note,
- 9:09more like pulses, pressure, vibration.
- 9:13So when someone says I don't know if
- 9:18I hear it or feel it, that is
- 9:20not actually nonsense, or should I say automatically
- 9:24nonsense.
- 9:25There is a physical gray area between ordinary
- 9:28sound and very slow pressure changes.
- 9:32People also have different hearing threshold.
- 9:36A sound that sits right on the edge
- 9:38of a hearing might be obvious to one
- 9:40person and completely invisible to another.
- 9:44That is not very different from the fact
- 9:46that some people can hear high frequencies that
- 9:50other people can no longer detect.
- 9:52So the first possible explanation is simple.
- 9:55Maybe the hearer is unusually sensitive to real
- 9:59low frequency sound.
- 10:01But then the sound has still to exist.
- 10:05And why can't the microphone find it?
- 10:08Another possible explanation is resonance.
- 10:11A house is not a neutral box.
- 10:13Rooms have resonant frequencies.
- 10:16Walls can vibrate.
- 10:17Pipes can vibrate.
- 10:19Ventilation systems can vibrate.
- 10:21Large surfaces can react to low frequency energy.
- 10:25So a weak sound from outside may become
- 10:28much stronger in one room than another.
- 10:32That could also explain why some people experience
- 10:36the hum more strongly inside.
- 10:39But it does not fully explain why two
- 10:42people standing in the same room may disagree
- 10:44about whether the sound exists at all.
- 10:48A third possibility comes from the ear itself.
- 10:51Tinnitus.
- 10:52When we say tinnitus, many people imagine the
- 10:55classical high pitch.
- 10:59But tinnitus is not one sound.
- 11:03It can hiss, click, pulse, buzz, and hum.
- 11:10And it can sometimes be very low in
- 11:13frequency.
- 11:15There is also something called otoacoustic emissions.
- 11:22That sounds exotic.
- 11:24But the basic idea is simple.
- 11:26The inner ear is not just a passive
- 11:28microphone.
- 11:30It contains active biological systems.
- 11:36Outer hair cells help boost and fine-tune
- 11:39sounds.
- 11:40And because of that activity, a healthy ear
- 11:43can actually produce extremely weak sounds of its
- 11:46own.
- 11:47So another possible explanation appears.
- 11:51What if some hearers are in some way
- 11:55detecting activity created inside their own hearing system?
- 12:00And then there is one more strange detail.
- 12:04Some people say that the hum follows them.
- 12:07They travel.
- 12:08They move to another place.
- 12:10And the hum is still there.
- 12:13If that experience is accurate, there might be
- 12:15two different ways to explain it.
- 12:17Either the signal is extremely widespread, or the
- 12:21source is not in Taos.
- 12:22Maybe the source is inside the hearer.
- 12:27But before we go down that road, we
- 12:29need to give the opposite idea a fair
- 12:30chance.
- 12:31What if the hearer, right from the beginning,
- 12:35what if something is really out there?
- 12:43If we look at the alternative theory, we
- 12:45are going to take, should we say, this
- 12:48part very much seriously.
- 12:50The physical hum is physical.
- 12:52It is a signal.
- 12:54It is not an illusion.
- 12:56It is not mass psychology.
- 13:00Something in the real world is affecting certain
- 13:03people.
- 13:04But it exists near the edge of the
- 13:07normal human perception, and maybe near the edge
- 13:11of the normal measurement, too.
- 13:13If it's out there, several pieces begin to
- 13:15fit.
- 13:16First, the description.
- 13:18A distant diesel engine.
- 13:19That is exactly the kind of a sound
- 13:22we might expect from a rotating machinery.
- 13:25Large fans, pumps, compressors, transformers, ventilation systems, and
- 13:31all other machines that produce a lot of
- 13:34low frequency energy.
- 13:36Low frequency sound behaves differently from many of
- 13:40the sounds we normally use to understand our
- 13:45surroundings.
- 13:46A bird in a tree is usually easy
- 13:49to locate.
- 13:50A deep hum can be much harder.
- 13:53Low frequencies can bend around objects.
- 13:56They can travel long distances.
- 13:58They are not always stopped by walls, and
- 14:02because the wavelengths are so long, it can
- 14:06become difficult to tell exactly where the sound
- 14:09is coming from.
- 14:10That gives us our first alternative model.
- 14:14The source may not be in Taos at
- 14:15all.
- 14:16It could be far away.
- 14:18Imagine a large industrial system, a compressor station,
- 14:22a mine, a pump, a large fan, maybe
- 14:26a facility that runs harder at night.
- 14:28Under certain atmospheric conditions, sound can travel surprisingly
- 14:34long distances.
- 14:37Temperature layers in the atmosphere can bend sound.
- 14:43Wind direction can change how far it carries.
- 14:46The mountains around Taos is complicated.
- 14:49Mountains, valleys, large open spaces, they can create
- 14:54acoustic effects.
- 14:56A sound may not behave the way we
- 14:59expect, and there's an interesting comparison.
- 15:02Kokomo, Indiana.
- 15:04People there are also complaining about hum.
- 15:09Investigations eventually found real industrial low-frequency tones,
- 15:14including noise connected to a cooling tower and
- 15:17a compressor system.
- 15:18That matTaos.
- 15:20Kokomo shows when people describe a nearly unbearable
- 15:25low-frequency hum, it can sometimes be reacting
- 15:29to a real technical signal that many other
- 15:32peoples either do not notice or simply cannot
- 15:35hear.
- 15:36So the fact is that only some people
- 15:38hear sound does not mean that the sound
- 15:41does not exist in their heads.
- 15:43People have different hearing thresholds, different sensitivities, and
- 15:50low-frequency sounds is especially good for creating
- 15:53that kind of situation.
- 15:55So maybe the Taos investigation is looking for
- 15:59one steady tone.
- 16:00While the real problem is more complicated, maybe
- 16:03the signal changes over time.
- 16:05Maybe it only travels into the area under
- 16:10certain atmospheric conditions.
- 16:14Maybe it came from interference between different sounds.
- 16:19That brings us to another possibility, beats.
- 16:23When two frequencies are close to each other,
- 16:25they can create the feeling of a slow
- 16:28pulsing pattern.
- 16:29Wow, wow, wow.
- 16:32That slow pulse is not necessarily produced by
- 16:34a separate low-frequency machine.
- 16:37It can be created by two higher tones
- 16:40interfering with each other.
- 16:42That could matter in Taos because some hearers
- 16:45describe the hum as modulated.
- 16:48Not as completely steady, but pulsing.
- 16:52If several physical sources are involved, different people
- 16:55in different buildings could hear it with different
- 17:00versions of the same general environment.
- 17:03That gives us a model where the Taos
- 17:05hum does not have to be one tone.
- 17:08It could be an acoustic condition, a mix
- 17:11of weak low-frequency signals.
- 17:14When conditions are right, the signals become noticeable.
- 17:18And only to people those hearings happen to
- 17:21be sensitive in the right range.
- 17:23But some hearers also describe something even deeper.
- 17:28Not only sounds.
- 17:30Vibration.
- 17:32Pressure in the body.
- 17:33That brings us to infrasound.
- 17:36Infrasound normally means sound below 20 hertz.
- 17:41People also call it inaudible.
- 17:44But that is too simple.
- 17:46At high enough sound pressure levels, humans can
- 17:50actually detect infrasound.
- 17:53And as the frequency gets lower, the experience
- 17:56changes.
- 17:56It becomes more like a musical tone.
- 18:00As it becomes less like a musical tone,
- 18:05it becomes more pulsing, more pressure, discomfort, or
- 18:09even physical vibration.
- 18:12So if the Taos Hum contains an infrasonic
- 18:15part, maybe it would be difficult to detect
- 18:18it using equipment or methods mainly designed for
- 18:21normal audible sound.
- 18:25There are many natural sources of infrasound.
- 18:29Storms.
- 18:30Ocean waves.
- 18:32Volcanoes.
- 18:33Earthquakes.
- 18:34Large weather systems.
- 18:36And there are also human-made sources too.
- 18:40Explosions.
- 18:41Large fans.
- 18:42Industries.
- 18:43Aircraft.
- 18:44Turbines.
- 18:45But Taos is not sitting in the middle
- 18:47of an industrial center.
- 18:53So maybe the natural environment becomes important.
- 18:57Taos is close to the Rio Grande Rift.
- 19:01This is a major geological system where the
- 19:04Earth's crust has been stretched for millions of
- 19:07years.
- 19:08Could the ground itself create the vibration?
- 19:12Groundwater.
- 19:13Small seismic movement.
- 19:15Rock movements.
- 19:17Resonance inside the underground structures.
- 19:20If a deep vibration moves through the ground
- 19:23and entered buildings, it could help explain why
- 19:27some people experience the hum more strongly than
- 19:30others.
- 19:31A floor.
- 19:32A mall.
- 19:33A pipe.
- 19:33A bed.
- 19:34The building itself can act like a resonator.
- 19:38It's also worth remembering that under very specific
- 19:42conditions, humans can sometimes notice weak patterns better
- 19:47than simple instruments.
- 19:50Not because the body is magical, but because
- 19:54the brain can study a weak repeating pattern for
- 19:58a long time.
- 19:59If a microphone records a complicated sound environment,
- 20:04a weak signal may disappear back into the
- 20:07background noise.
- 20:09But if a person lying in the same
- 20:11bedroom every night, they slowly learn the pattern.
- 20:16Some hearers also report that the Hum changes
- 20:18when they move their heads.
- 20:21Or is it stronger in one part of
- 20:24the room than another?
- 20:26That fits very well with standing waves.
- 20:30When a low frequency sound reflects between walls,
- 20:33floors, ceilings, it can form zones where the
- 20:37sound becomes stronger.
- 20:38And those zones where it almost disappears.
- 20:43So a person might move a short distance
- 20:47and hear a big, major difference.
- 20:49But the physical hum theory does not stop
- 20:53from normal acoustics.
- 20:55Some people, the facts that researchers fail to
- 20:58find normal sound point, sorry, normal sound sources
- 21:02point toward electromagnetism and this is where the
- 21:08Taos becomes more an acoustic mystery.
- 21:12Can humans hear electromagnetic signals?
- 21:16Not directly in the normal sense.
- 21:18A radio signal does not move in the
- 21:21eardrum in the same way as a sound
- 21:23wave.
- 21:24But there are documented physical situations where electromagnetic
- 21:29energy can create an auditory sensation.
- 21:35The best known example is the microwave auditory
- 21:39effect, also called the Frey effect after researcher
- 21:42Allan Frey.
- 21:44Short pulses of microwave energy can, under certain
- 21:47conditions, create tiny thermoelastic pressure waves inside tissue.
- 21:54The hearing system can then detect those pressure
- 21:58waves as clicks or other sounds like sensations.
- 22:04That does not mean that the Taos Hum is
- 22:07caused by microwaves, but it proves an important
- 22:09principle.
- 22:10A person can experience a sound if there
- 22:13is no normal acoustic sound wave outside the
- 22:16head for a nearby microphone to record.
- 22:26If a technological signal creates the experience through
- 22:30the body itself, then the microphone may not
- 22:32be simply the wrong tool.
- 22:35And that is where the military theories begin
- 22:39to make more sense to some people.
- 22:42New Mexico is not a random place in
- 22:44the American military history.
- 22:46Los Alamos, Sandia, White Sands, Kirtland Air Force
- 22:50Base, the history of the nuclear weapons, rocket
- 22:53testing, radar, advanced weapons research, secret projects.
- 23:00The United States government really did run highly
- 23:04classified technological programs in New Mexico.
- 23:07That is not a conspiracy theory.
- 23:11It's fact.
- 23:11It's history.
- 23:13So when people begin to experience a strange
- 23:15signal and federal laboratories cannot explain it, some
- 23:20people naturally ask, can it be military?
- 23:23Transmitter?
- 23:24Communication system?
- 23:26Navigation system?
- 23:28An experiment?
- 23:30A signal that was never meant for human
- 23:32beings, but some people still can detect.
- 23:35During the Cold War, both the United States
- 23:39and the Soviet Union developed systems using very
- 23:43long electromagnetic frequencies.
- 23:48VLF and ELF has unusual properties.
- 23:52Very low frequency electromagnetic systems were studied and
- 24:00used because they can reach places where normal
- 24:03radio waves are difficult, including communication with submarines.
- 24:08And when people look into the numbers without
- 24:10separating sound waves from electromagnetic waves, something seems
- 24:15strange.
- 24:17The hum is often discussed in frequencies of
- 24:22a few tens of hertz.
- 24:25ELF also exists at extremely low frequencies.
- 24:30So the connections become tempting.
- 24:32Maybe the hum is an electromagnetic ELF signal.
- 24:39From there the story actually moves toward HAARP.
- 24:43H-A-A-R-P.
- 24:45The High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program, a
- 24:51research facility in Alaska, built to study the
- 24:53ionosphere.
- 24:54HAARP uses a large antenna array to send
- 24:57powerful radio signals into the ionosphere.
- 25:01And through interactions with the ionosphere, HAARP can
- 25:05create modulation in the VLF and ELF ranges.
- 25:11That detail matTaos, because if someone says HAARP
- 25:15can create ELF, there is a real physical
- 25:19idea behind the statement.
- 25:21Through interactions with the ionosphere, HAARP can create
- 25:25a very low frequency electromagnetic signals.
- 25:30So if the hum is electromagnetic instead of
- 25:34acoustic, it is understandable that some people ask
- 25:38whether high energy ionosphere experiments could play a
- 25:43role.
- 25:44Then we come to Schumann resonances.
- 25:48The Earth and the ionosphere forms a huge
- 25:51electromagnetic cavity.
- 25:55Lightning storms around the world feed the energy
- 26:00into this cavity.
- 26:01This creates resonances.
- 26:04The main one is about 7.8 hertz,
- 26:09which is higher resonance above it.
- 26:12That leads to an interesting idea.
- 26:15If we live inside a planet-wide electromagnetic
- 26:18resonance system, the human nervous system works electrically.
- 26:24The brain contains rhythmic electrical activity.
- 26:30So could especially sensitive people detect changes in
- 26:33the Earth's electromagnetic environment.
- 26:36And if the technology affects the ionosphere, could
- 26:41it also affect the environment?
- 26:43It's a big idea, but people find it
- 26:46attractive for a reason.
- 26:49It can explain why several parts of the
- 26:51mystery at once.
- 26:53Why are the hum reports found in many
- 26:56places?
- 26:57Because the signal is global.
- 27:00Why is it hard to locate?
- 27:02Because it's not normal sound coming from one
- 27:05machine.
- 27:06Why might a microphone fail to detect it?
- 27:09Because the signal is not mainly acoustic.
- 27:15Why do some people only some people notice
- 27:19this?
- 27:20Because biological sensitivity differs.
- 27:23And why is the experience often stronger at
- 27:27night?
- 27:28Because normal background sounds become quieter and people
- 27:31notice weaker sensations more easily.
- 27:34The full idea becomes something like this.
- 27:37The hum may not be a sound in
- 27:39the normal sense.
- 27:41It may be a physical signal that the
- 27:43human nervous system sometimes converts into a sound
- 27:47-like experience.
- 27:49And this is where the Havana Syndrome becomes
- 27:52a part of the story.
- 27:54Starting in 2016, American diplomats, intelligence officers, and
- 27:58family members reported unusual experiences.
- 28:01Pressure, sounds, pain, dizziness, balance problems, cognitive problems.
- 28:08One technological explanation discussed publicly was a pulse
- 28:12radio frequency energy.
- 28:15If technology can affect humans from a distance
- 28:19and create strange auditory or neurological experiences, then
- 28:25a technological hum at least has a possible
- 28:28physical mechanism.
- 28:31But not necessarily the same technology, but the
- 28:34principle.
- 28:36And in New Mexico, the rabbit hole goes
- 28:38even deeper.
- 28:39A few hours northwest of Taos is the
- 28:43town of Dulce, a small community in the
- 28:48Jicarilla Apache Reservation.
- 28:52Since the 1980s, especially Dulce has become famous
- 28:56in the conspiracy circles because of stories of
- 28:59a secret underground base beneath Archuleta Mesa.
- 29:07In the full story, this base is enormous.
- 29:11Several underground levels, advanced military technology, genetic experiments,
- 29:17UFOs, non-human beings, tunnel systems, blah, blah.
- 29:21Phil Schneider later became one of the people
- 29:24who made the story famous.
- 29:28He claimed that he had worked on a
- 29:30secret underground facility and had personally been involved
- 29:33in the violent confrontation with non-human beings
- 29:37beneath Dulce.
- 29:40If you accept that story, the Taos Hum
- 29:43changes completely.
- 29:45The hum could then be imagined as a
- 29:47side effect of a huge underground installation, with
- 29:51ventilation systems, tunnel boring, generators, energy systems, communications,
- 29:58etc.
- 29:59in the Carilla Apache Reservation.
- 30:05Since the 1980s especially Dulles becomes famous in
- 30:10the conspiracy circles because of stories of a
- 30:13secret underground base beneath Archuleta Mesa.
- 30:21In the full story this base is enormous,
- 30:25several underground levels, advanced military technology, genetic experiments,
- 30:30UFOs, non-human beings, tunnel systems, blah blah.
- 30:35Phil Schneider later became one of the people
- 30:38who made the story famous.
- 30:41He claimed that he had worked on a
- 30:43secret underground facility and had personally been involved
- 30:47in the violent confrontation with non-human beings
- 30:50beneath Dulles.
- 30:53If you accept that story the Taos Hum
- 30:56changes completely.
- 30:58The hum could then be imagined as a
- 31:01side effect of a huge underground installation with
- 31:04ventilation systems, tunnel boring, generators, energy systems, communications
- 31:11equipment, something underground sending the vibrations through the
- 31:17rock.
- 31:21In the material used for this episode the
- 31:24connection between the hum, underground tunnels, and the
- 31:26wider four corners areas appears more than once.
- 31:31It creates a story where geology, military secrecy,
- 31:35and UFO mythology began to blend together and inside
- 31:40that model the pieces from a surprisingly complete
- 31:44picture.
- 31:45A state with well-documented military research, large
- 31:50empty areas, a major history of nuclear technology,
- 31:56stories of underground facilities, a hum that researchers
- 32:00simply cannot explain easily, and senses with people
- 32:06who detect something instruments do not have clearly
- 32:10identified, and a government that has in the
- 32:14past keep major technological programs secret.
- 32:18There's also a broader argument.
- 32:20History contains examples of strange reports that were
- 32:24first ignored but later turned out that to
- 32:26have a real physical causes.
- 32:35Low frequency industrial noise is one example.
- 32:39A person may complain about a sound that
- 32:42the neighbor cannot hear.
- 32:44A normal sound meter may show nothing unusual,
- 32:49but later a specialist analyze the low frequencies
- 32:51and discover a fan or a compressor.
- 32:55From this point on viewing saying we did
- 32:58not measure it so it's not outside hum.
- 33:02That may be too simple.
- 33:04Maybe we just have not made the right
- 33:07measurements yet.
- 33:08That is the strongest versions of the alternative
- 33:10theory.
- 33:11The hum is real.
- 33:12It's a physical source.
- 33:14Maybe several sources.
- 33:16People have different levels of sensitivity.
- 33:20Buildings can amplify weak signals, and our measurements
- 33:24may not have identified the exact process connecting
- 33:28to the source, to the people who actually
- 33:32hear it.
- 33:33It does not have to be aliens.
- 33:35It does not have to be HAARP.
- 33:36It doesn't even have to be military.
- 33:39It could be something as ordinary as machinery.
- 33:43A complex long-distance sound moving through the
- 33:46atmosphere as deep as the geological vibration.
- 33:52And something technological that we have not yet
- 33:55identified.
- 33:56But in this model one basic idea remains.
- 34:00When the hearer says there is something out
- 34:05there, there is really something out there.
- 34:13If we should have a look at the
- 34:15rabbit hole then we need to leave Taos
- 34:18for a moment.
- 34:19Because Taos is not alone, not even close.
- 34:22In Britain stories about strange hums have been
- 34:25reported for decades.
- 34:27The Bristol hum became especially famous in the
- 34:291970s.
- 34:30Again people described the same kind of experience.
- 34:34A deep machine-like sound.
- 34:35Worse at night, hard to locate and only
- 34:39some people could hear it.
- 34:41Later became similar reports from other places.
- 34:45Kokomo, Windsor, Auckland, Largs and many more.
- 34:50This is where the idea of the worldwide
- 34:52hum becomes interesting.
- 34:54Canadian researchers Glen MacPherson began collecting of self
- 34:58-reported hum cases in a global database.
- 35:02When you look at the map it seems
- 35:04dramatic.
- 35:05Reports appear all over the world and many
- 35:09people describe similar things.
- 35:12Diesel engine sound, nighttime humming, a sound
- 35:16that seems stronger indoors, pulsing and the experience
- 35:20of being the only person in the house
- 35:23that could hear it.
- 35:26MacPherson's projects has suggested that maybe two to
- 35:30four percent of people may experience some
- 35:34kind of hum under the right conditions.
- 35:38But one of the most interesting things about
- 35:41the project's later direction is that MacPherson's did
- 35:44not end up in one of those worldwide
- 35:47machines.
- 35:49Instead the project becomes, sorry, began separating people
- 35:53who may react to real environmental sounds from
- 35:57people whose Hum may come from inside the
- 36:01hearing system.
- 36:02That is important because the more hum cases
- 36:06we studied the more it looks like the
- 36:08world may be described several different things.
- 36:13Look at Kokomo.
- 36:15There investigators have found industrial components.
- 36:19That tells us something important.
- 36:20Some hums are real environmental sounds.
- 36:25Then there is the Windsor in Canada.
- 36:28For years residents complained about a deep vibration
- 36:32and a low rumbling sound.
- 36:34The Canadian government found scientific, sorry, founded a
- 36:38scientific investigation.
- 36:41Researchers found signals that seems to point toward
- 36:45the Zug Island area on the American side
- 36:49of the Detroit River.
- 36:51It is a heavy industrialized area.
- 36:55Researchers got close to an answer.
- 36:58But even there the story did not end
- 37:00with one technician finding of one machine.
- 37:04Flipping one switch and saying, there, mystery solved.
- 37:08Hum problems can acoustically be difficult.
- 37:13And that actually supports one of the alternative
- 37:17arguments.
- 37:19Failing to locate a source does not always
- 37:21mean there is no source.
- 37:23But then we have Schumann resonance. 7.83
- 37:28hertz.
- 37:29That number appears again and again in alternative
- 37:31explanation.
- 37:33It has almost become a mystical number.
- 37:36The earth frequency, the heartbeat of the planet,
- 37:39some people connected to meditation, sleep, brainwaves, health,
- 37:43consciousness, and the hum.
- 37:46There is something almost poetic about the idea.
- 37:50The earth really does have electromagnetic resonances.
- 37:56And all of us live inside the electromagnetic
- 37:58environment.
- 38:01That part is real.
- 38:06Schumann resonances are caused by electromagnetic waves moving
- 38:10through the space between the earth and the
- 38:12ionosphere, driven mainly by the lightning around
- 38:15the planet.
- 38:16But the question is whether Hum hearers are
- 38:18is actually detecting them. Then we have HAARP.
- 38:22HAARP has become something like a Swiss Army
- 38:26knife in a modern conspiracy culture.
- 38:29Earthquake? HAARP. Weather? HAARP. Strange sound? HAARP. Mind
- 38:33control? HAARP.
- 38:35And that is actually a shame because the
- 38:38real HAARP is already interesting.
- 38:41The facility has 180 antennas.
- 38:44It can send up to 3.6 megawatts
- 38:48of high frequency radio energy to study the
- 38:51ionosphere.
- 38:52That's real physics, real radio science.
- 38:56And HAARP can create ELF and VLF modulation
- 39:00through processes in the ionosphere.
- 39:03We do not need to invent that what
- 39:05HAARP does to make it interesting.
- 39:09But going from that to saying therefore people
- 39:13in Taos hear diesel engines is a much
- 39:16bigger step. Then there is Havana Syndrome.
- 39:19That's also difficult because real people reported real
- 39:23symptoms.
- 39:26There have been years of investigations.
- 39:28Doctors, scientists, politicians and intelligence agencies have not
- 39:33always agreed.
- 39:35And some technological mechanism has been discussed are
- 39:39not science fiction.
- 39:41But we do not have a simple chain
- 39:43that says Havana Syndrome equals microwave weapon.
- 39:47Microwave weapon equals Taos Hum.
- 39:50There are separate questions.
- 39:53And the American intelligence community has remained diverted
- 39:56in the part of the Havana Syndrome issue.
- 39:59In an updated assessments in January 2025, five
- 40:04of seven U.S. intelligence agencies still believe
- 40:08that it is very unlikely that a foreign
- 40:11enemy is responsible for the most of the
- 40:14cases.
- 40:15But two agencies with low confidence believe that
- 40:19it is roughly possible for a foreign actor
- 40:22to have developed or used a new technology
- 40:24in a smaller number of incidents.
- 40:28That is not exactly a clean Hollywood ending.
- 40:31And finally... Dulce.
- 40:35I have to concentrate a little here because
- 40:38names like Archuleta Mesa and Jicarilla Apache were
- 40:44clearly not designed for my Danish speaking podcast.
- 40:48But the story is fascinating.
- 40:52The Dulce conspiracy did not grow directly out
- 40:56of the Taos Hum.
- 40:57It is developed from the UFO reports of
- 40:59cattle mutilation stories, Paul Bennewitz, claims about
- 41:04underground facilities, and later Phil Schneider's lectures.
- 41:08It is really its own conspiracy universe.
- 41:12And its being close to a map does
- 41:15not prove a new, does not prove a
- 41:17connection.
- 41:18But when two mysterious stories exist in the
- 41:21same general region, people naturally begin to connect
- 41:24them.
- 41:25An unexplained vibration in Taos. A supposed underground
- 41:29base near Dulce. Military laboratories in New Mexico.
- 41:33UFO history. HAARP. ELF. Schumann resonance. Havana Syndrome.
- 41:38Suddenly you no longer have one mystery.
- 41:40You have a network.
- 41:43And this is where we need to be
- 41:44careful.
- 41:45Human beings love networks of strange facts.
- 41:48We love patterns.
- 41:49But connection on a map does not always
- 41:51have a connection in the real world.
- 41:53So now we have reached the part where
- 41:55we deliberately have waited for.
- 41:56It's time to take the connections apart again.
- 42:02So let's look at the critics.
- 42:05We start with the simplest idea.
- 42:07An unknown industrial machine that is physically possible.
- 42:11We know ventilation systems, transformers, compressors, turbines, cooling
- 42:15towers, pumps and heavy industrial can create low
- 42:18frequency noise.
- 42:20We also know low frequency noise can be
- 42:23unusual, difficult to deal with.
- 42:25It can travel far, it can move through
- 42:28structures, and buildings can change the way it
- 42:31is experienced.
- 42:33So the explanation belongs high on the list
- 42:39in any individual Hum case.
- 42:41The problem in Taos is that the original
- 42:44investigation did not find a steady outside acoustic
- 42:50signal that matched the hearers what they have
- 42:54reported.
- 42:56That does not make industrial noise impossible.
- 43:00But after many years without a clear source,
- 43:02the idea becomes less satisfying if we try
- 43:05to use it to explain the entire Taos
- 43:08phenomenon.
- 43:09Next is infrasound, also completely real.
- 43:13And there is one myth that we should
- 43:16get rid of.
- 43:17Infrasound does not automatically, is impossible to hear.
- 43:22Humans can detect extremely low frequencies if the
- 43:26sound pressure is high enough.
- 43:28Researchers have studied humans' perception at low, very
- 43:33low frequencies.
- 43:34And the frequency drops, the experience changes.
- 43:38It becomes less a musical tone and more
- 43:41like a pressure pulsing or individual waves.
- 43:45So that part works.
- 43:46But there's another problem.
- 43:48If infrasound is strong enough to create a
- 43:51clear and constant experience, proper equipment should normally
- 43:56be able to measure it.
- 43:58And on a worldwide infrasonic source, it is
- 44:02supposed to explain every Hum report.
- 44:06It is also to explain why people match
- 44:09different frequencies, and why experiences are varied so
- 44:13much, and why some people say that the
- 44:16homes follow them when they travel.
- 44:20Then there's geology.
- 44:22Taos sits on an interesting geological area.
- 44:26But an interesting geological location is not the
- 44:29same thing as evidence for particular vibration.
- 44:33The earth is constantly producing background seismic noises.
- 44:37Ocean waves can create small seismic signals that
- 44:40travel across continents.
- 44:44Wind and weather can create signals too.
- 44:47But if geology is going to explain the
- 44:50Taos Hum, we need a measurable chain: a
- 44:53geological process, a specific signal, a transmission path,
- 44:58a clear connection to what the hearers experience.
- 45:02We do not have that chain.
- 45:05And then we come to Schumann resonance.
- 45:08Here we need to separate two very different
- 45:11things that often get mixed together because they
- 45:15are measuring in hertz.
- 45:16Hertz simply means cycles per second.
- 45:20A guitar string can vibrate with a certain
- 45:22number of times per second.
- 45:26An electrical signal can do the same.
- 45:29Electromagnetic waves also have a frequency.
- 45:31But that does not make it that the
- 45:33same physical things.
- 45:35The Schumann resonance around 7.8 hertz
- 45:38is electromagnetic.
- 45:41It is not a normal sound floating through
- 45:43the air like a giant subwoofer.
- 45:46So if Schumann resonance causes the Hum, there
- 45:50need to be a biological mechanism that converts
- 45:54this very weak electromagnetic field into a sound
- 45:58experience.
- 46:00And this is where the evidence becomes weak.
- 46:04Schumann resonances are real, but the popular idea
- 46:07that people simply hear Earth's 7.83-hertz frequency
- 46:11is not established science.
- 46:13The same problems appears when people compare human
- 46:17resonance with brain waves.
- 46:20The two things can exist in similar frequency
- 46:23ranges without directly interacting.
- 46:27Similar numbers are not evidence of physical connections.
- 46:31Then there is HAARP.
- 46:32The facility exists.
- 46:33It's powerful.
- 46:34It studies the ionosphere.
- 46:41It can indirectly create ELF and VLF signals.
- 46:44All is documented.
- 46:46HAARP's main transmitter operates in a high frequency
- 46:50radio range, roughly between 2.7 and 10
- 46:53.0 megahertz.
- 46:55The ELF and VLF effects are produced indirectly
- 46:59through the ionosphere.
- 47:00But we do not have a connection to
- 47:03TERS.
- 47:04There is no documented correlation between HAARP activities
- 47:07and the hum.
- 47:09No recorded HAARP-related signal has been found
- 47:13around hearers.
- 47:16And the timeline is not especially helpful either.
- 47:21TERS' story is already developing while HAARP itself
- 47:25was being developed in the 1990s.
- 47:28Of course, someone can always suggest an earlier
- 47:31military system.
- 47:33But the moment a theory requires an unnamed
- 47:37secret system in order to survive, it
- 47:39becomes much harder to test.
- 47:42That does not make it logical impossible, but
- 47:45the evidence becomes weaker.
- 47:47Then we have the microwave auditory effect.
- 47:51This may be the alternative theory's strongest technical
- 47:54point.
- 47:55Yes.
- 47:56Electromagnetic energy can, under certain conditions, create an
- 47:59auditory sensation.
- 48:01That's real.
- 48:02But the classic microwave auditory effect is more
- 48:06often described as clicks, buzzing, or short sound
- 48:10experiences connected to a pulsed signal.
- 48:13To use it as an explanation for a
- 48:15constant low frequency hum, we would need a
- 48:20exposure source.
- 48:22Where is the transmitter?
- 48:24How powerful is it?
- 48:26What frequencies does it use?
- 48:28What pulse patterns?
- 48:31Why does it affect these people?
- 48:35Why, for years or even decades, where are
- 48:38the locations?
- 48:40No one has provided a complete chain of
- 48:43evidence for Taos.
- 48:44Havana Syndrome does not automatically make the connection
- 48:49stronger.
- 48:50It shows that discussing possible radio frequencies' effects
- 48:55on people is not completely absurd.
- 48:58But Havana Syndrome is itself still disputed and
- 49:03unresolved.
- 49:05It cannot take one mystery, place it underneath
- 49:07another mystery, and call it result-proof.
- 49:11Then there's Dulce.
- 49:12Here the problem becomes much bigger.
- 49:15There is no verified evidence for a huge
- 49:17human-alien underground base described in the Dulce
- 49:20stories.
- 49:21No confirmed technical plans.
- 49:24No verified workers with documents proving that the
- 49:27base exists as described.
- 49:30No independently confirmed tunnel system in the claimed
- 49:34scale.
- 49:35No physical evidence proving the existence of non
- 49:38-human beings described in the stories.
- 49:41Phil Schneider told dramatic stories, but his claims
- 49:44about an underground battle cannot be established as
- 49:48a historical fact from the evidence available.
- 49:52That means Dulce may be a fascinating cultural
- 49:56rabbit hole, but as an explanation for the
- 49:58TEROS hum, the evidence is extremely weak.
- 50:02And now we come for the most difficult
- 50:05explanations for some hearers to accept.
- 50:08The ear itself, tinnitus.
- 50:10Some hearers reject this immediately because the hum
- 50:14feels external.
- 50:16They say, I know what tinnitus feels like.
- 50:20It is coming from the house, the road,
- 50:22the ground.
- 50:23But our hearing system is incredibly good at
- 50:26placing sound.
- 50:27And sometimes it can place sounds incorrectly.
- 50:31The brain builds our sense with the sound
- 50:36that is located using timing, loudness, reflections, and
- 50:39other signals.
- 50:41An internal sound does not always feel like
- 50:43it's coming from a tiny speaker inside our
- 50:46head.
- 50:47Tinnitus can feel inside one ear, both ears,
- 50:51inside the head, or something less clearly defined.
- 50:56And then in 2026, a very relevant study
- 50:59was published.
- 51:01Researchers studied 28 people who reported almost constantly
- 51:06low humming or pulsing sounds.
- 51:09The mid-range of the frequency they matched
- 51:12the hum was about 50 hertz.
- 51:15Researchers tested two important possibilities.
- 51:17First, are these people simply unusually good hearing
- 51:21low frequency sounds?
- 51:23For most of them, the answer was no.
- 51:25There were a few exceptions, but as a
- 51:27group, they do not have the extremely low
- 51:30frequency hearing sensitivity we would expect if they
- 51:33were hearing normal outside sound that everyone else
- 51:37simply missed.
- 51:40Second, could they be hearing spontaneous low frequency
- 51:45sounds produced by their own ears?
- 51:48Researchers look for low frequency spontaneous uh auto
- 51:54-acoustic emissions.
- 51:57They did not find what would be needed
- 52:01to explain the experience in that way either.
- 52:04The overall conclusion was that subjective low frequency
- 52:10tinnitus probably explains many of the cases.
- 52:14And notice there were many, not necessarily all.
- 52:18The researchers did not rule out a real
- 52:21outside sound source for every person.
- 52:24And to me, that might be the most
- 52:25interesting part of the entire story.
- 52:28Science may slowly be moving away from the
- 52:31questions, what is the source of the hum?
- 52:33And towards different questions, what type of hum
- 52:37is this particularly person experiencing?
- 52:40That is a very different question.
- 52:45So if you look what actually holds up,
- 52:48let's start clearing the table.
- 52:50What do we actually know?
- 52:51We know that people in Taos reported a
- 52:53hum.
- 52:54That's documented.
- 52:55We know the problem was taken seriously enough
- 52:58for a multidisciplinary scientific investigation.
- 53:03That is also documented.
- 53:04We know that only a small part of
- 53:06the population reported the experience.
- 53:08Around two percent was used as a conservative
- 53:11estimate.
- 53:12We know researchers did not find one external
- 53:16acoustic seismic electromagnetic source that could explain the
- 53:20hearer's experience.
- 53:21That matTaos.
- 53:23So the documented mystery is not.
- 53:26Scientists detected a mysterious 40-hertz sound across
- 53:30Taos and still cannot explain where it comes
- 53:32from.
- 53:33That would be a much stronger mystery.
- 53:36But that was not what happened.
- 53:37The real story is this.
- 53:39People reported an experience.
- 53:42Researchers could not find an outside signal that
- 53:44clearly matched the experience.
- 53:48So what is likely?
- 53:50It is very likely that some hum cases
- 53:52around the world are caused by ordinary outside
- 53:55sources.
- 53:56We have real examples of low frequency industrial
- 53:59noise.
- 54:00So when someone complains about a hum, the
- 54:02first response should not automatically be tinnitus.
- 54:05The first response should probably be, let's measure
- 54:10the environment properly.
- 54:11Vibration, pumps, transformers, heat pumpss, cooling systems, industry,
- 54:16traffic, ships, compressors, wind, building resonance pipes.
- 54:20All of this matTaos.
- 54:23It is also likely that some people are
- 54:26more sensitive to low frequencies than other people.
- 54:30Human hearing thresholds vary.
- 54:34And with low frequency sound, a small change
- 54:36in the sound pressure can sometimes mean the
- 54:38difference between almost nothing and something extremely annoying.
- 54:45Then we have what is possible.
- 54:49Atmospheric and geological conditions may sometimes allow weak
- 54:55signals to travel in a strange way.
- 55:01There may be interactions between outside sounds and
- 55:05the human hearing system.
- 55:08Weak signals could possibly trigger or strengthen an
- 55:12internal sound perception.
- 55:17But it does not always mean that it
- 55:19has to be either.
- 55:21And finally we have the speculative idea.
- 55:24HAARP as the source of the Taos Hum.
- 55:27Secret ELF weapons. Global military transmissions. Schumann resonance
- 55:32as a direct auditory cause. Dulce Base. Underground alien
- 55:38facilities.
- 55:38In some cases we have real technology, but
- 55:42no evidence connecting them to Taos.
- 55:44In other cases the supposed source itself has
- 55:47never been verified.
- 55:49And then we have tinnitus.
- 55:50That is no longer just boring default answers.
- 55:54Modern hearing research makes it a serious candidate,
- 55:58especially because it can explain some of the
- 56:00strangest details.
- 56:02Why other people do not hear the hum?
- 56:05Why microphones do not record it?
- 56:09Why some people hear it in different places?
- 56:13Why the frequencies differ between people?
- 56:17And why the experience still feels completely real?
- 56:21The last point is important.
- 56:23If the hum is caused by tinnitus, that
- 56:26does not mean that the person is pretending
- 56:28to hear something.
- 56:30The perception itself is real.
- 56:33Every sound you would ever experience finally exists
- 56:36inside the brain.
- 56:37That includes my voice right now.
- 56:40The difference is where the signal begins.
- 56:44In a microphone, in the ear, in the
- 56:47cochlea, in the auditory nerve, or somewhere deeper
- 56:52inside the hearing system.
- 56:53Maybe that question about where the signal
- 56:56begins.
- 56:57It is the real tale's mystery.
- 57:02If we look at the final balance, at
- 57:04the beginning of the episode I asked you
- 57:06to imagine an engine outside the house.
- 57:08You hear the engines, but you do not
- 57:10find the vehicle.
- 57:12For more than 30 years people have been
- 57:14asking where is the vehicle.
- 57:16Maybe that was the wrong question, because the
- 57:18hum may not be one thing.
- 57:20In Kokomo a hum may come from industrial
- 57:24equipment.
- 57:25Somewhere else it may come from a compressor.
- 57:28In another house building resonances may be involved.
- 57:32One person may be unusually sensitive to real
- 57:36low frequency sound.
- 57:38Another person may be experiencing low frequency tinnitus.
- 57:42And there may be some cases where we
- 57:44do not have a satisfying explanation.
- 57:46That is less elegant than the idea than
- 57:49one secret worldwide transmitter.
- 57:51But nature does not owe us an elegant
- 57:53mystery.
- 57:55At the same time we should not make
- 57:57the opposite mistake.
- 57:58We should not say we have a possible
- 58:01neurological explanation, so we never need to
- 58:04investigate the environment again.
- 58:07That would be too lazy.
- 58:09Industrial hums are real.
- 58:11Low frequency noises are real.
- 58:13Infrasound are real.
- 58:15Human sensitivity varies and complicated acoustic problems can
- 58:20be very difficult to identify.
- 58:23So where does that leave Taos?
- 58:25It's something that to me is actually more
- 58:27interesting than one simple answer.
- 58:30The Taos Hum is not a good mystery
- 58:33because it proves secret weapons.
- 58:35It does not.
- 58:37And it's not a good mystery because science
- 58:40has proven that every ear has simply tinnitus.
- 58:43Science has not proved that either.
- 58:47It's a good mystery because it sits right
- 58:49on the border between the world outside us
- 58:52and the world of our senses that are
- 58:54built inside of.
- 58:56Normally we do not think about the difference.
- 58:58We open the eyes and the world seems
- 59:00to be there.
- 59:01We listen and the sound seems to be
- 59:03there.
- 59:04But our senses are not windows.
- 59:06They are interpretations.
- 59:09And that means that two people can stand
- 59:11in the same room and honestly live in
- 59:13two different sound worlds.
- 59:15One person hears silence.
- 59:17The other people hear an engine that never
- 59:19stops.
- 59:20And I think that's strange enough.
- 59:22We do not really need an underground alien
- 59:25base to make it interesting.
- 59:27But if you're lying if you're lying awake
- 59:30tonight and suddenly you hear deep engine sound
- 59:35somewhere outside the window.
- 59:37Well how far the rabbit hole do you
- 59:40want to go?
- 59:41It's completely up to you.
- 59:43See you next week.