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EDP19: Breaking4 / Eoin races Irish 5 mile Champs / Gold Coast preview / Battersea 5k / Ostrava · Easy Double podcast

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  Hello. And.
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  Welcome back to the Easy Double Podcast episode 19, closing in
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  on our 20th episode. This week, we're without Dean.
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  He's decided to take his first dose of annual leave as he's
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  taking a camper van down to Margaret River.
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  I believe so, yeah, stick with us as me and Owen plow through
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  what's been another busy week. We've got Ostrava to cover from
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  last week, and then there was a Battersea 5K.
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  We've got the Irish National Five Mile.
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  We're going to talk about the elite fields in Goldie for the
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  weekend coming up. We've got some news on the
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  Sydney Marathon elite fields and Owen has his first race back
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  from injury, which I genuinely have no idea how he's got on.
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  I don't even know what distance it was.
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  I think he potentially said it was a 3K or something like that.
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  But anyway, welcome to the pod, Owen, how are you?
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  I'm great living it up here. It's nice.
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  Another heat wave has hit Ireland and England, so we've
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  got a bit of town over the weekend.
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  But yeah, Dean will be missed. I feel like the level of like
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  intellectual, like facts about running has gone like
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  drastically downhill. So this might be this might be a
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  rough one are. We going to get found out on
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  this episode. Absolutely.
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  We just don't need it. We can't talk much.
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  Oh God. On the the first episode since
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  the Jakins of you where we've managed to get a load of new
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  listeners and then these new listeners are going to be tuning
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  in and thinking this is what we deliver every week.
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  I promise Dean will be back. Speaking of the heat wave and
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  Dean, it's a good job he's not here to tell us that it wasn't a
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  heat wave or it wasn't very hot because it has been actually
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  hot, hasn't it? Man, it's I feel like when it's
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  warm in Ireland and England it is like humid and warm.
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  It's the equivalent of like 40° in Perth.
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  Yeah, it's never heat with like clear blue sunny skies, is it?
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  The clouds are always dead low. And the heat, just like gets.
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  Boxed in, you can't breathe. It's not like.
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  That in Perth, it's like the dry heat, yeah, whereas we need Dean
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  to do is like stats with the humidity and all that sort of
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  stuff, the dew point to say how hard it is to run over here.
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  But no, we can't complain. I don't have you, have you ever
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  ridden a peloton? No, I don't.
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  Even, you know, like. The indoor bikes, the static
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  bikes, but then they have like a big massive iPad screen.
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  And you like you can. Race or ride against other
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  people, like live across the world.
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  Is that like on? Is it swift or swift or
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  something? Like that, Yeah, I think it's
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  similar to that. So I've just done one them for
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  the first time and they have like a live leaderboard of
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  people who are doing that session right now and everyone
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  who's ever done that in the history.
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  So like you just get so competitive because you can see
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  the leaderboard and I'm not a very good rider.
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  So it's just that's why my face is absolutely bright red.
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  I was looking at I don't have sunburn from the weekend.
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  No, I mean, yeah, I've just been in London and it was hot down in
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  London as well. But no, this is just pure the
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  capillaries heading straight to my skin to try and escape and
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  get rid of some heat because I've just blew my socks off on
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  the bike. How long did you do on it?
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  45 minute class feel like a proper mum, you know, like
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  middle-aged mum doing the peloton and the the classes.
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  Yeah, we'll we'll get to that. So I guess let's start with a
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  Strava from last week, because because we recorded early, we
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  didn't quite get through those results.
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  And now the main one where there's a couple of things.
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  So Gout, Gout ran the 200 meters and I think there was kind of, I
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  don't want to say any expectation, but anticipation
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  about how he'd get on. As always with Gout, he brings
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  like kind of all the crowd and all their eyes are on him,
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  aren't they? So it was the first ever race in
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  Europe and he's ran 20 point O2, which and that was with legal
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  wind as well. It was completely flat.
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  He's won the race. So I think that was a, it says
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  area record. I'm not sure if that's under 20
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  for Australia or like all time. I would have thought someone had
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  went under 20 but potentially not.
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  I think he did, but it was illegal.
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  Yeah, he got it in Perth, didn't he?
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  A couple of times. And it was illegal.
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  So what time do you run in Australia?
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  20.02. And for context, Usain Bolt's
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  world record is 19.19. So yeah, the kid got wheels.
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  Yeah, even using Usain Bolt as a measuring stick is a bit harsh,
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  but still, like he's almost like in the conversation.
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  As in once she's sub 20, then you're with the elite, aren't
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  you? There was also so 1500 meters,
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  which was won by Coech of Kenya in a 32905.
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  Isaac Nader of Portugal was second in the 329.37.
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  Josh Howie, the American who we've spoken about a few times,
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  was third and 329.75 And then Australia's very own Cam Myers,
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  the star boy who RAF on his interview called out as like
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  kind of 1 to watch, which it wasn't what he was saying one to
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  watch. It's kind of like an obvious
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  show, isn't it? The Cam Myers just want to
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  watch, but he's delivered in a big fashion here, breaking 3:30
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  for I think the first time ever. But yeah, unbelievable
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  performance there. So that gets him the qualifier
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  now. So with these, the places for
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  world champs in Tokyo are starting to get very tasty.
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  And now we get like sort of deeper into the season and this
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  European track season progresses.
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  There's a lot of people starting to run the time and put the put
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  the name in the hat for contention.
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  So things are certainly spicing up.
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  And on the subject of which, Jude Thomas of Australia, also
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  down in 7th, not really in contention for the win, but he's
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  got himself a qualifier also with a 332, so it just goes to
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  show. Yeah, he's on form, isn't he?
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  He's he could have a big, big summer.
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  It's, it's going to be so interesting once the teams are
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  selected. I hope that no one who kind of
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  has had a good season and his run times ends up missing out.
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  I hope they find a way to potentially give people like 800
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  spots and 1500 spot or a 5K spot and kind of keep everyone happy
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  with at least one selection. I don't even know how they'll do
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  that because like there's so many good 1500 meter runners now
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  in Australia. Like someone, big names are
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  bound to miss out. Yeah, well now I don't think
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  Stewie's run the time yet. Has he bought his back fit
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  again? So no doubt he will.
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  What is he? He's not running pretty, is he?
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  No. No, actually quite surprising
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  really because I don't know if it is a Nike sponsored meet, but
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  I don't know in my head it has a big affiliation with Nike.
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  I guess it's. Because it is.
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  Eugene, yeah. And Stewie's obviously like a
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  Big Mike athlete, isn't he? He was there pace in your one
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  faith. Well, that's a nice segue into
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  that. Do we talk about Faith Kapiagon
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  in the sub four attempt? Yeah, we may I watch it.
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  Did you get to watch it? I did.
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  I watched it live annoyingly, like I wasn't even doing
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  anything beforehand and I sat there and watched like the whole
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  45 minute build up and then I think because she never done it
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  afterwards I was just like, oh that was an hour I've just spent
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  being invested. 4 minute race. 4 minute and six seconds.
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  But yeah, did you watch it? I did, and I didn't really get
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  what the the Pacers saw in Kipchoge's one when he was
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  trying to break the two hours. I understood, like the V And
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  it's obviously easier to do on a road because you can sort of
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  block the wind. But on a track, like, you can't
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  have anyone inside of Faith because then she'd just be
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  running more. She'd be running a longer line,
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  basically. So like, they had like a line of
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  boys in front of her. And then Grant Fisher was like
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  right beside her. And then there was like, I don't
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  know what the people were doing at the back of her.
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  Like, they were just there to make up numbers.
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  I don't have a clue. But yeah, it was really weird.
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  I didn't get it. Yeah, I mean, so let's give a
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  bit of context. It was so Faith, Kapiagon and
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  Knife and a host of Nike athletes were set up this
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  exhibition events because it would it wouldn't have been an
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  official world record with the exhibition manufactured
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  circumstances to try and have the first ever woman on the 4
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  minutes mile. So Faith's own current world
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  record in a legitimate race was 47.64.
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  Is it? Something like that, yeah.
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  And that was from Monaco Diamond League back in 2023.
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  So I mean, the task at hand was ridiculously big.
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  Get rid of seven seconds over a mile.
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  And I think the previous world record to when Faith ran 4/07
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  was a 412. So like, when you consider what
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  they're actually trying to do, it was just bizarre.
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  Are you sure? That was his son as well.
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  It's Stefan, his son, who had it before.
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  I mean, and I guess that's why people were a little bit
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  sceptical of the realism of it. But then as kind of the event
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  got closer, I think people started to buy into the hype and
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  the marketing that Nike were doing.
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  Because they put out the the two-part documentary and kind of
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  explained to everyone all the science and the research and
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  everything that had gone into it and the factors that they were
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  going to try and manipulate to help them do it.
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  So that was the paces. And as you touched on the
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  formation that they used, So the, I seen a picture and it was
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  genuinely like scientific analysis on how the wind would
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  flow around these paces that were in front of it, which is
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  why that someone was like on the outside, because various air
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  flows would have just meant that it cleared everything for Kippy
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  Aegon. But you would have thought that
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  in as traditional like just being directly in front was the
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  most optimal, but apparently not.
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  They had the speed suit which had supposedly these air nodes
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  on them which made her more aerodynamic so that she almost
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  had like a net positive airflow and just helped the air kind of
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  as it hits her chest, just get off of it quicker.
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  She had the new spikes which had been deliberately made for her
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  and this attempt and they weren't ratified by World
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  Athletics. Now be interesting to see if
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  anything comes with this because I think the initial message was
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  they just didn't get it done in time from World Athletics.
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  But I'm not sure whether that was kind of just a bit of a
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  marketing message. And in fact, they're actually
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  illegal and they wouldn't have BeenVerified or ratified anyway.
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  But we'll see if they hit the shelves then clearly they are.
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  To the Coffee Club boys and they said that they were illegal.
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  Oh yeah? Well, there you go then.
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  Yeah, I don't know. They they they described the
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  weight of the upper as three paper clips.
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  Didn't they know? That's crazy.
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  And then the the actual back of it.
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  So obviously it had like the the plate and stuff on the front.
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  And did you see the back? It's got like a a decent like
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  maybe 20 mills worth of drop of like the zoomax phone.
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  Yeah, it looked like sort of super shooting early, like the
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  sort of, you know, the Streak Fly from Nike, like that sort of
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  heel on it. So I mean, she she had
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  everything provided for and no doubt like the training that she
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  done was insane because her coach I think is Patrick Sang,
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  isn't it, which is Kipchergi's coach and the famous African
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  coach. The pace squad was made-up of
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  like the most famous Nike athlete.
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  So there's Grant Fisher, there's Cupertia, there's Craig Angles,
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  Elliot Giles, Stewie Mcswain. I'm probably missing a couple.
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  You're a man, Kahal Doyle. Oh, he was there, was he?
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  Yeah. They they go next interviews we
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  can get try and get him on from an Irish perspective and also
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  ask him about Breaking 4. And the two women was Georgia
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  Hunter Bell, the Brit and Gemma Ricky the Brit.
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  And yeah, as you say, like, I mean, they were on pace, I
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  think, weren't they? For the first two, potentially
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  after three laps they'd slip by like a second, but they were
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  still there. So 60 seconds or 60 point for
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  one minute 20 or like one minute 20.8 maybe.
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  And then they were just slowly, slowly slipping.
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  And I think so Grant started on her on her outer shoulder,
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  didn't he? Grant Fisher.
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  And she's apparently she said that she preferred his, like,
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  gait and his cadence most, which is no surprise because he's
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  smooth as anything, isn't he? Yeah.
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  He's so good. And then I don't know the
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  unfortunately, we didn't hear too much of the pacing plan
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  because you seen at one point Grant, I don't want to say
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  dropped Faith, but like he kind of progressed from being like on
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  her shoulder to like being in front of her.
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  And then you saw Cooper come up, didn't you?
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  I don't know if the plan was deliberately for people to kind
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  of pass her so she almost feels like she's in a race.
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  Yeah. But then should have been it.
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  Yeah. It was just, it was a bit of a
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  shame to see like that last lap that it was just kind of fading
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  away and fading away, wasn't it? Because you you could see the
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  chip, the paces behind her, like almost pushing her and she's
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  giving her everything. But obviously it wasn't meant to
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  be. She ran 406.
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  I mean, what are your actual reflections on the whole events,
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  her performance and everything like that?
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  Like the event was pretty cool, but like what she was trying to
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  do was like absolutely outrageous.
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  Like arguably if she if she actually got under 4 minutes,
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  that would be the best record ever in athletics.
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  Like better than breaking two hours of the marathon.
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  Like breaking a woman Breaking 4 minutes from mile is bigger.
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  I think they worked it out. That's the equivalent of a 333
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  male mile. So it's it's actually bananas.
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  But Nike, they do it so well, like they bump it up like
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  everyone, a lot of people knew about it, but like, I don't
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  think it was ever really on. Like to give her all the chances
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  in the world, but like, I don't think it was ever really, really
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  on. Well, she ran what was it at 229
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  K in, I don't know where it was, but that's essentially on pace
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  for the four minute mile, but just 66% of the distance.
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  So you can train as hard as you want, you can optimize nutrition
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  and stuff as hard as you want, but to get an extra 600 metres
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  over that pace, like it's just asking so, so much, isn't it?
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  Which is why. To the average person, like if
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  they say oh she's only 6 seconds off like they're they think like
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  it's actually not much but 6 seconds over a mile is like
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  massive. So like, she wasn't really close
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  either. And this is the Olympic champ
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  over 1500 meters back-to-back to back.
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  So you're talking about like one of the greatest ever, not just
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  the best there is now. Well, and she's the world record
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  holder. So like this is the peak that
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  like human evolution is produced and we're still 6 seconds off.
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  So This is why my take is like as amazing as she is and amazing
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  as she was in running faster because I actually think
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  watching like the last 100 meters and stuff or even the
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  last lap, the fact that she knows deep down, like at the end
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  of the date, it's a time trial, isn't it?
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  Like she potentially do better in a race, which is why I think
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  that four O 7 in the Diamond League race is actually more
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  impressive because she didn't have all the kind of everything
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  given to her and everything tailored for her in that.
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  And she also ran it. I think like at least the last
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  lap there she was solo. Could you like the pressure she
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  would have been under as well? Like the amount of marketing put
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  into this? Like it was literally all for
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  her to do this one thing. Like I couldn't imagine the
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  pressure that she would have been under as well, like.
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  Imagine I think maybe head coach the interview that beforehand
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  and he said like, yeah, she did look a bit nervous this morning
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  or something. So I hear you are right to
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  highlight that. And like it just any bit of
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  nerves at all, your body just tenses up that little bit more.
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  It just wastes that little bit more energy.
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  And yeah, like to run a floor like, Oh yeah, I don't know.
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  Fair play to her. Should give it a go.
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  With the track races like that as well, the short distance, so
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  much of it is done off adrenaline as well, isn't it?
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  So like, if you kind of peaked, if you've tapped into that
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  adrenaline beforehand because you're getting nervous or like
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  you're hyping yourself up or whatever, then it's just going
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  to have a negative effect, isn't it?
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  Yeah, but look, she's faster than both of us, so we can't say
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  much. What a woman.
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  But yeah I've seen Nike afterwards done a post saying
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  the caption was when not if. But like I actually think that's
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  the wrong take. I think at this stage, being 6
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  seconds away and giving the best to ever do it, absolutely
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  everything that we have right now, it's still more of a case
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  of, if not when? So that's going to be my double
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  trouble. Watch this now.
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  She'll come out next week and run like 354 or something like
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  that. Hopefully, hopefully in an
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  actual race though and not like some nice manufactured events.
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  Yeah, like that's another thing whether like everyone again
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  outside of running or in running, they keep things like
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  keep Jogi is the fastest ever, but he's not.
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  You might keep them as like like what's what you doing it if it's
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  not legit. Did you see Kept Jogi was there,
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  Yeah. Of course he was.
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  He was looking fresh in his, in his black shirt, yes.
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  And I actually thought he spoke quite well when they interviewed
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  him and stuff. Usually he's so stiff and like
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  obviously his English isn't the greatest which like is
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  absolutely fine. I couldn't speak aware they've
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  really Spanish or French, let alone African and African
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  language but I actually thought he spoke really well and like
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  seemed quite composed and got his points across very well.
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  Yeah, but I see he was pressing that for a while, wasn't he?
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  Yeah, probably very scripted. Like another thing was the I
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  want, I don't know what her actual title would be that kind
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  of like the host, if you like that.
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  I just thought she was a bit of a hype woman.
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  Like she just kept referring to the crowd and the energy.
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  But the only people that were there I think was people who
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  were invited and it was like maybe 5 to 10% of the stadium's
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  capacity. So as much as like she was
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  referring to the crowd and like the atmosphere and whatever, you
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  know, that that wouldn't have really had much of a positive
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  effect because. The like Kippy, Aegon and the
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  other athletes, they used to run in and sold out stadiums.
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  So I think if they want to actually do it, then maybe
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  there's another second in having a packed stadium and like the
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  actual unreal atmosphere. And put the crowd in on top of
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  her and then like 4 or something.
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  Yeah, because that does drive you on. 100% like she would have
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  found it no doubt. So much easier coming up that
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  back straight where the people were than when she went out onto
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  the the other side where there was no one.
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  Yeah, absolutely, Absolutely. But hey, who are we to say?
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  And another point is I know that having the male pacemakers is
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  ideal because they can go the whole way and like kind of be
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  somewhat comfortable in doing so.
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  But it almost like diminished it a little bit for me from like,
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  as you're watching it, you can see how easy they're moving at
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  that pace. And like even on the last lap,
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  like they're almost jogging up that home straight while you can
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  see Kippy Aegon's absolutely emptying and giving it
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  everything. So like, I don't know.
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  It was crazy to see they were lately.
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  They looked like they were jogging them.
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  Yeah. It was the.
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  Whole achievement of it a little obviously, obviously like men
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  and women aren't compared and from a performance point of
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  view, but just seeing them side by side there, you never you
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  never see it like that. You always watch men's races
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  only, women's races only. So I don't know, potentially
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  could they have had different groups of women like jumping in
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  for 800 and 800? I don't know.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. You wouldn't know, but she gave
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  it a go. You can't blame her for a play
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  tour. No, well hopefully they maybe
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  come back with another one. Maybe there was AI mean we might
• 21:52
  find out after the fact, but maybe there was a time where
• 21:55
  like if she hit a certain time say like 404 then they would
• 22:00
  automatically do another one or something.
• 22:02
  I mean, we'll have to just wait and see.
• 22:04
  Yeah, it won't be this year anyway.
• 22:05
  Next year. So hopefully we've covered that
• 22:08
  off OK and haven't offended anyone.
• 22:11
  Genuinely not trying to like Diss keep you going or anything,
• 22:16
  but they were just purely observations.
• 22:19
  You never know, next year we could get sent over to watch it.
• 22:24
  We'd be lucky we have to get a few more Jake Barrack off type
• 22:27
  interviews scheduled in to grow the audience size, but yeah.
• 22:31
  You never know. Do you want to talk about the
• 22:34
  Battersea 5K? Yeah, sure.
• 22:37
  So this top flight, this sort of group in England put these type
• 22:41
  of races on and they're basically like for they're
• 22:46
  supposedly first, like sub elite, like club runners and the
• 22:51
  quality is like unbelievable. But for some reason boys, just
• 22:55
  boys and girls pick this one to like hit hard and there was
• 22:57
  Olympians and the times are outrageous.
• 23:00
  So the lads race was won in 14 O 7 by Phil Sessaman.
• 23:06
  Second was Ben Connor in 14-10 and third was Jonathan Escalante
• 23:13
  Phillips in 1414. The women's was won by Alexandra
• 23:17
  Bell in 1541. Gabriela Rucker was second in
• 23:23
  1557 and Olga Fitzowa was third in 1619.
• 23:32
  So for those who don't know, Phil Sesame and Ben Connor are
• 23:35
  both Olympians and Alexandra Bell, she's an Olympian as well,
• 23:39
  isn't she? Right, So fair enough, I think.
• 23:43
  Phil Sesson, Phil Sessions, a marathoner, and Ben Connor.
• 23:46
  He'd be more for the longer distances as well, wouldn't he?
• 23:49
  Yeah, I think he's he's done. Maybe he's done 10K and marathon
• 23:55
  at Olympic level. Yeah, but yeah, but like the
• 23:58
  Creme de la Creme of sort of British running for them to rock
• 24:03
  up with these events. It's like it just goes to show
• 24:05
  like how good these events are and how lucky like the UK is to
• 24:08
  have like such good quality racing.
• 24:13
  Yeah, I think. Either A500 or £1000 cash prize,
• 24:17
  so that may be the reason why. Yeah, for 1514 minutes worth of
• 24:21
  running. Did you see I seen on Sussman's
• 24:24
  Instagram, there was a rail of like the finish and he I don't
• 24:29
  think it was published by him. I think he just done like the
• 24:31
  the collaborated on the post and it was like side by side during
• 24:36
  the last 500 meters or so. And it was like Sith.
• 24:40
  And he's like just sitting in behind Ben Connor and then kick.
• 24:44
  And he literally like, you should see the Turner pace and
• 24:47
  he just gaps him like straight away puts 1020 meters into him
• 24:51
  and then yeah, just brings it home for the win.
• 24:54
  Yeah, for for people as well, that is.
• 24:57
  Was that 251 or 253 per kilometer pace?
• 25:02
  Yeah. It's fast.
• 25:04
  Outrageous, but I mean, he must be.
• 25:06
  Wonder why he do? He must have a marathon now.
• 25:08
  He'd probably hit into a marathon block, would he?
• 25:10
  Yeah, well, you'd think he'd be in the Tokyo team, so maybe he's
• 25:14
  just doing a bit of. Speed.
• 25:15
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 25:16
  Well, how? That's September.
• 25:18
  So. July, August, September, yeah.
• 25:21
  So I'd say he'd be touching starting that block pretty soon.
• 25:25
  But I mean even though he the like marathoners, I reckon
• 25:28
  Sessman's definite must have run sub 14 before I think.
• 25:32
  Oh, absolutely. Yeah.
• 25:33
  So they they wouldn't have been flat out.
• 25:35
  That might have been a little bit tactical there.
• 25:37
  And the same for Alex Bell. I mean she's predominantly an
• 25:42
  800 runner, I think maybe like 1500 tops.
• 25:45
  So that would have just been like an aerobic hit out for her,
• 25:48
  but still running very quick. It's better than a session like.
• 25:52
  Yeah, and then we had the Irish National Five Mile.
• 25:57
  So I actually took part in this one.
• 26:02
  This is my right. I'll touch on this one later on,
• 26:04
  but it was won by Emmett Jennings from Dundrum S Dublin
• 26:11
  in the time of 2419. Second was Kane Collins in 2425
• 26:17
  from Dunoir Harriers and 3rd was Jamie Byrne in 2442 from Dundrum
• 26:23
  S Dublin. In the Women's the winner was
• 26:25
  Tricia Jackman in the time of 2716 from Watford AC, second was
• 26:31
  Hannah Steeds for in a time of 2732 from Leavell AC and 3rd was
• 26:37
  Megan Ryan in a time of 2758 from Rome Dundrum S Dublin.
• 26:43
  So this race took, it happened Sunday, so the 29th of June, it
• 26:52
  was in the Phoenix Park. So for anyone who's know, the
• 26:54
  Phoenix Park is like it's Ireland's equivalent of let's
• 26:58
  say the tan or what's the other place or Albert Park or
• 27:03
  something like that. Like it's just a basically a big
• 27:05
  massive park where you can run around.
• 27:09
  Is it flat? It's hilly, yeah.
• 27:12
  So this for the five mile, I think the first mile was
• 27:16
  downhill and then it crept up for 2 miles and then a flattened
• 27:20
  out so. Park Hilly.
• 27:23
  Pardon King's Park Hilly. Parts of it could be Pink,
• 27:26
  King's Park, hilly. Like yeah, it's massive.
• 27:29
  It is massive. Loads of people just do their
• 27:31
  long runs around it and the Dublin Marathon goes through it
• 27:34
  as well. How come we can't see your name
• 27:36
  on the podium there? Because I was not running 3
• 27:41
  minute kilometer face. I was, I actually it was really
• 27:47
  bad. So there was Aladdin 3rd and
• 27:51
  just before the Lion he, oh, you could see his legs went to
• 27:54
  Jelly. And around 10 years before the
• 27:56
  lion, he just hit the deck and he hosted his head off the
• 28:00
  ground. Yeah.
• 28:01
  And so he was in 3rd. And then like stewards ran up,
• 28:05
  ran over, picked him up and like dragged him over the line.
• 28:08
  So technically I finished 8th, but technically he should have
• 28:12
  been disqualified. So I was 7th but no I ran the.
• 28:18
  Context for the listeners as well.
• 28:19
  I've just googled or just tried to work out what the pace per
• 28:23
  kilometer is there and as you said, the guy who's one in 2419
• 28:27
  is 3/01 per kilometer and five miles is 8.1 K Is it?
• 28:33
  Something like that, yeah. So no, I ran, I came eight and I
• 28:38
  ran 2510. So that was like 307 per
• 28:41
  kilometer so. Yeah, I was paying off.
• 28:45
  Fuck off paying off it. I was pretty happy off.
• 28:47
  I'd say 3 weeks worth of this like actually decent training.
• 28:51
  I haven't touched any speed so like regarding where I could
• 28:54
  have been like this is probably the best case scenario do.
• 28:56
  You want to do you want to give us your training week and then
• 28:59
  lead into your race recap whilst we hear that.
• 29:01
  Yeah, I may as well. So this worked out well.
• 29:05
  So this was my down week as well.
• 29:06
  So Monday morning I just got up and done 60 minutes chilling
• 29:12
  13.2 kilometers. Tuesday it was my sort of last
• 29:17
  sort of session of the week. So I 3K warm up, 3K cool down
• 29:23
  and the session was 3 by 10 minutes off a 5 minute flow and
• 29:28
  then at the end I done 8 by like 50m turnabouts.
• 29:34
  So it's basically like a fast ride, but you don't really get
• 29:37
  that much recovery. So you let me turn and sort of
• 29:39
  go again 50 meters, but because only 50 meters, like it's just
• 29:42
  like short like darts just to get the legs turned over after
• 29:49
  the like 30 minutes worth of threshold before that.
• 29:51
  When the 10 minutes to heart rate or to lactate still there?
• 29:56
  So I've gotten to the stage now where like with my heart rate, I
• 30:00
  sort of know what my lactate will be.
• 30:02
  So if I hit them between like 3:35 and 3:30, like I know my
• 30:08
  Lac date will be below like 2.0, which is where I want to be for
• 30:12
  that, for that first Lt. session.
• 30:17
  So yeah, like I didn't do test Lac date as well.
• 30:21
  So yeah, look, I felt good. I felt in control the whole
• 30:24
  time. Wednesday I got out for 60
• 30:26
  minutes in the morning and then I done 60 minute, 30 minutes in
• 30:31
  the evening. Literally like a 5 minute
• 30:33
  kilometer pace, just like shake out the legs.
• 30:35
  And then I got a massage that night as well.
• 30:38
  I try and get a massage like of the week of a race, like
• 30:41
  normally around like Wednesday or Thursday just so that like my
• 30:45
  legs are loose and it's not too close to the race that I'll be
• 30:49
  sore from the massage or anything like that.
• 30:50
  How does the? Cost of a massage comparing
• 30:53
  Ireland to Australia. Pardon.
• 30:55
  How's the How does the cost compare?
• 30:58
  The cost. So I go, I've been going to this
• 31:01
  guy for, I'm going to say like even when I was playing Gaelic I
• 31:05
  went to this guy. So he sort of helps me out a
• 31:07
  little bit. So I think it's like £4040 or
• 31:10
  something like that. But like, I swear by him, like I
• 31:13
  trust him with everything. So yeah, he was a runner as well
• 31:17
  back in the day, pretty legit as well.
• 31:19
  So yeah, if he cost like £80, I'd still go to him.
• 31:24
  So yeah, that's Thursday, Friday, total rest day, feed up
• 31:28
  done nothing. Saturday I did so 15 minute from
• 31:34
  my house. It's like a 15 minute jog.
• 31:36
  Well, it's like 710 minutes jog down to like this sort of gravel
• 31:41
  track. So it's like the best thing we
• 31:44
  have here around where I'm from. It's not a full 400 meters, it's
• 31:47
  like 365 meters or something stupid like that.
• 31:52
  But yeah, so I jogged down to there 50 minute, a little warm
• 31:56
  up and then I done for about 200 meters at sort of a race pace.
• 32:00
  So at like sort of three O 6, three O 7 per kilometer and
• 32:04
  yeah, felt crazy again just to get the lights turning over
• 32:07
  before the race on the Sunday and then I just.
• 32:10
  Dropped if you you know, usually on like 400 meter track, you
• 32:14
  know that a 72 second lap is like 3 minute K pace and
• 32:17
  whatever. So do you know that like a 69
• 32:22
  second lap or 68 second lap is 3 minute K pace?
• 32:26
  I would have, I would have before, but now coming back, I
• 32:29
  sort of forget what it was like. Like our 400 meter star is like
• 32:33
  halfway down the 100m straight. So if you start there and do a
• 32:38
  lap and you pass where you start and then if you end normally
• 32:43
  where the finish line is like that is a full like lap of this
• 32:47
  track. So it's sort of annoying in a
• 32:49
  way, but it's the best you have out here.
• 32:52
  It's like that. Did you ever train on the donor
• 32:56
  in Melbourne? Like the Collingwood training
• 32:58
  ground? What they all use there The
• 32:59
  circular No I. Didn't.
• 33:02
  Get to go to it. That's that's literally like in
• 33:04
  terms of like in the radius of the city, that's the most
• 33:08
  popular track people use, but it's 507 meters and it's like 3
• 33:12
  lanes in a complete circle. So there's no straights, no
• 33:16
  bends, just circle 507 meters and on a Tuesday you should see
• 33:21
  how busy it is. It's crazy.
• 33:23
  So is it what's in the middle? Is there a pitch in the middle?
• 33:26
  Yeah, and footy. And for the listeners, I'm doing
• 33:29
  inverted commas there. Footy An AFL pitch.
• 33:33
  OK, that was what I loved. About Australia?
• 33:36
  The AFL? No, just the ovals.
• 33:39
  Oh yeah. Yeah, like Internet, like over
• 33:40
  here all we have is like rectangle pitches that are shit.
• 33:45
  Yeah, I mean changing subjects slightly.
• 33:48
  I remember when I would have played football, like actual
• 33:52
  fussy, but soccer and some of the sessions you would do would
• 33:56
  be like Sprint one side of the pitch, jog 3, Sprint two sides
• 34:00
  of the pitch, jog 2, Sprint 3, jog one.
• 34:02
  But there you're working with like long straights and then
• 34:05
  short straights on a soccer pitch and.
• 34:08
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course.
• 34:10
  Yeah. We have to make do what we have
• 34:12
  over here. Anyway, sorry I interrupted you.
• 34:15
  You've. Been No, you're all right.
• 34:17
  So then, yeah, jog back home 15 minutes.
• 34:20
  And then actually that evening, I got the curly finger from my
• 34:23
  father and I had to go fencing. So friend who doesn't know I'm a
• 34:28
  farmer, grew up on a farm, cattle farm, and the weather's
• 34:31
  good now. So we let the cattle out in the
• 34:33
  fields, but we have to put a fence up at the very back of our
• 34:37
  fields. So we had these, like, wooden
• 34:39
  posts and we got this, like, metal.
• 34:42
  It's sort of like, all right. Think of it as a pen lid.
• 34:46
  You know them little big pen lids both got handles each side.
• 34:50
  So then when you hit the pole sort of fits into the pen lid
• 34:54
  and you hit it down into the ground.
• 34:56
  But like it's really heavy. So me and my brother were doing
• 34:59
  that, but how to do that Saturday?
• 35:01
  Evening. And so it's like to like Pierce
• 35:03
  a circular hole in the ground. Basically, so you've got the
• 35:07
  pole and then you're hitting that on top of it.
• 35:10
  Oh yeah, so. It's like a hammer into a nail,
• 35:12
  basically. And so they're like the stakes
• 35:15
  in the ground. And then you put like electric
• 35:17
  wire through it to keep the cattle in.
• 35:20
  So yeah, that took off my my Saturday evening and my hands
• 35:24
  are covered in blisters if you can see.
• 35:27
  Yeah, I can see it. He's broken up anyway.
• 35:31
  Yeah, not the ideal Saturday night with a with a race the
• 35:35
  next morning, but has to be done to keep the cattle in our
• 35:40
  fields. When you say I've got the curly
• 35:42
  finger, does that mean like, come here?
• 35:44
  Like I got, Yeah, he told me you have to come down and help him.
• 35:47
  Yeah, me and my little brother who's a big fan of the podcast.
• 35:53
  Nile. Yeah.
• 35:55
  Nile. Anyway, yeah, then Sunday
• 36:00
  morning the race was at 9:00, which is a good thing about
• 36:03
  Ireland. It's not like in Australia, like
• 36:06
  again, for the guys doing Gold Coast next weekend, they have to
• 36:09
  get up like 6:00 the race. So for the guys doing the
• 36:11
  marathon they have to like kid up like 3 would it be?
• 36:15
  Yeah. To get some food in.
• 36:17
  But yeah, so 9:00 I rolled out a bed at like 6, got some food
• 36:20
  into me, headed up to the Phoenix Park and done my usual
• 36:25
  warm up. But this time my coach over here
• 36:28
  said give. So I do my strides and all, but
• 36:31
  then I do 2 by 3 minutes a threshold.
• 36:34
  So again, just to like relax, get my body sort of flowing.
• 36:38
  And I was looking at the watch and I was running like I was
• 36:42
  running like 310 pace and I felt really crazy.
• 36:45
  So I sort of, I sort of knew I was sort of on like I felt good,
• 36:49
  the sort of taper, whatever method of tapering my coach in
• 36:52
  Ireland does. Like it felt really, really good
• 36:54
  basically. So yeah, then and I knew like I
• 36:59
  was always going to run a bit conservative because I had I
• 37:02
  really didn't have a clue what shape I was in.
• 37:04
  Like I hadn't I didn't touch on speed.
• 37:06
  Like that was the first time I ran like a three or 7 kilometer.
• 37:09
  Did you know any? Of the guys on the start list.
• 37:12
  No. And being brutally honest, like
• 37:14
  it was a weak field, like there was no big hitters in this race,
• 37:19
  like it was a national Five mile, it's a national title.
• 37:21
  But no, like if the big lads were here, I probably would have
• 37:25
  came, I'm going to say 50th or something like that.
• 37:27
  I would have been way, way, way down.
• 37:29
  And so yeah, it wasn't the best standard, but it's still pretty
• 37:32
  fast, running like 3 minute kilometers.
• 37:33
  Like it's nothing to be looked down on.
• 37:37
  But yeah, so there was like race, my gun went off and I was
• 37:42
  so, so tempted to go with that first group because you know
• 37:44
  where you feel so good at a server race, But I was like, no,
• 37:47
  I better not. I'll just I want to enjoy it.
• 37:50
  So I just sort of sat back into the second group and the start
• 37:53
  was downhill. So I sort of just like took it
• 37:56
  easy. I think the first splits, first
• 37:58
  2 kilometers splits were like three O 3 and like 3O2 again, I
• 38:01
  didn't look at my watch at all because if I'd seen that, I knew
• 38:04
  it would have got into my own head.
• 38:06
  And then we started climbing and then I think I hit like a 311
• 38:10
  and like a 317 kilometer split. And so they were like like it
• 38:14
  was hilly and it is there's like this road that goes through the
• 38:17
  park and like just opens up. So it gets pretty windy.
• 38:21
  So I just started trying to tuck in, buying someone and then it
• 38:24
  sort of flattened out and I sort of got going again.
• 38:27
  I think I hit like a three O 7, three O 6.
• 38:29
  And like my last kilometers were I think a 3 minute and a 258 or
• 38:33
  something. So yeah, I finished up in a, I
• 38:36
  think it was 2510. My coach said if I he was near
• 38:39
  25 minutes, he'd be absolutely delighted.
• 38:41
  So look, I'm trending in the right direction.
• 38:45
  I'll sort of my next like a goal race is like the national 5K on
• 38:50
  the track, which is at the end, which at the start of August,
• 38:54
  which is like might the one I'll be training for now.
• 38:56
  I've got a 3K on the track in two weeks time.
• 38:59
  So but I won't taper down for that one.
• 39:01
  I'll like keep. I don't think you really need to
• 39:03
  taper for a 3K really. Like it's on a Wednesday night.
• 39:07
  So that Monday and the Tuesday, I'll probably take it easy, but
• 39:10
  my long run will still be like 90 to 100 minutes.
• 39:15
  So yeah, if I just need to keep it up, keep on top of like
• 39:19
  massage, nutrition, sleep and all that sort of stuff, and I
• 39:22
  should be, it should come good for the start of August.
• 39:26
  It'll be interesting to see how much fitness I can build up in
• 39:28
  the next 4 weeks. That's good.
• 39:29
  I mean, I'd say that that's a very good result for you.
• 39:32
  And it just lends itself to the fact that, like, you can get so
• 39:36
  much fitness and speed from just doing threshold training, isn't
• 39:39
  it? It's crazy.
• 39:40
  I wasn't expecting it at all. Like I genuinely haven't done
• 39:44
  any kilometer splits, 800 meter splits.
• 39:46
  Like they've just been like time based and then just a few
• 39:49
  strides at the end of my easy runs.
• 39:52
  So like let's say today on the evening I am done 30 minutes,
• 39:57
  I'm going to say like 455 per kilometer pace.
• 40:00
  And at the end I done 8 by let's say 12 second strides and they
• 40:06
  just get your legs turning over and it just like gets the.
• 40:10
  The fibers like twitching. So yeah, look, I'll keep it up
• 40:14
  for a little while. See I'm going obviously I'm
• 40:16
  going to start sharpening up now a little bit or introducing more
• 40:20
  speed into it. So the mileage will come down a
• 40:22
  little bit because the intensity is going to increase.
• 40:25
  So I just have to watch that and make sure one doesn't tip over
• 40:29
  the scales. But yeah, look, I'm happy where
• 40:33
  things are going. Legs are feeling good so just
• 40:36
  need to keep on top of that. Yeah, Well, it sounds like
• 40:39
  between you and your coach, you're being very sensible, and
• 40:42
  I don't want to say cautious, but you've got so much room to
• 40:45
  kind of grow and expand the training from here, haven't you?
• 40:49
  So even if you just done the same training for another month,
• 40:52
  you're only going to get fitter and you've still then got room
• 40:55
  to like add more intensity or more speed or more hills or
• 41:00
  whatever. Like literally everything you've
• 41:01
  done so far has just been like threshold, hasn't it?
• 41:04
  And very controlled, very measured.
• 41:07
  But I think that's the thing, like I'm sort of getting used to
• 41:10
  running at like a pretty decent speed, but like you're sort of
• 41:14
  always in your head, like relax. So I'm sort of getting used to
• 41:17
  like relaxing. My muscles aren't tensed.
• 41:20
  I'm just sort of cruising. And then when you're in the
• 41:22
  race, you're just like, alright, relax.
• 41:23
  And that's just like, I don't know, I think it's like saving
• 41:25
  the energy or I haven't a clue. Like again, I'm still learning a
• 41:29
  bit. Like I wouldn't coach anyone
• 41:31
  because I'm still learning myself so I'm literally just
• 41:35
  taking his word as gospel and if he tells me to literally run
• 41:39
  100K tomorrow, I just run 100K tomorrow.
• 41:41
  I'm just doing what he says. No, it's cool.
• 41:44
  Trust him. And that's what you need, isn't
• 41:46
  it? In the coach, Yeah.
• 41:47
  And like, I don't need, like my my eyes are firmly fixed on
• 41:51
  November for the cross country in Ireland.
• 41:53
  That's my one goal like I just want to be building up to that.
• 41:58
  So like I've got the elite entry for Cardiff half.
• 42:00
  I might even do it because the cross country now in Ireland is
• 42:03
  gone down. It usually is 10K but it's gone
• 42:06
  down to like 7.5 which suits the fast.
• 42:09
  So the 10K would have suited me better that the 7.5 will suit
• 42:13
  the fast guys. So I don't know if a half
• 42:16
  marathon would it even like obviously it make you strong,
• 42:20
  but you sort of have to be like be able to turn over the pace
• 42:23
  for that 7 1/2 K. And so yeah, look, I'll see what
• 42:26
  happens. November is a long way away, but
• 42:28
  just. Give it up.
• 42:29
  Well, it's good that you've got your next race sorted as well in
• 42:31
  a month's time because that's it's enough time to go away and
• 42:34
  do some more training. But also four weeks is nothing
• 42:37
  really is it? So you can be excited about
• 42:39
  racing again soon. Absolutely.
• 42:41
  Like they're all week. I was so excited for the Sunday
• 42:45
  and like you sort of like wish your weekend away and now like
• 42:49
  the weekend goes so fast and you're just like, oh, come back
• 42:54
  to work now and one. Day.
• 42:56
  Oh well. Banket move on.
• 42:58
  Well, I guess some of the listeners might be shouting what
• 43:01
  shoes did you wear? Yeah.
• 43:03
  So when I came home, I have a pair of ASIC Meta Speed Sky old
• 43:10
  ones that I've worn for training now and they probably wouldn't
• 43:14
  be the best for racing and they're a bit worn.
• 43:15
  Then I have New Balance super complete V4, which I'm not the
• 43:22
  like they're grand. It's just for 5K you want
• 43:25
  something more responsive. I feel like for the marathon
• 43:27
  they'd be ideal because they just protect your legs.
• 43:30
  But for a 5K you want something that's going to like give you
• 43:33
  something back or for a five mile.
• 43:34
  I mean that because it's actually not that long.
• 43:37
  Like it's 25 minutes of running. You want to be you want to feel
• 43:40
  the ground basically. Well, that's what I'd want in a
• 43:42
  5K five mile, 10K shoe. So I asked when I was in
• 43:47
  Australia, I, when I was doing my recent work outside
• 43:50
  Melbourne, I got pally with this guy called Ben Ludbrook.
• 43:53
  He's based out in Ballarat and he works in the running company
• 43:58
  Ballarat. And I asked him if he was to run
• 44:00
  a 5K, what would you run in? And he says the Nike Streak Fly.
• 44:05
  So I took his word and I went up to the local sport shop here and
• 44:10
  I bought the Nike St. Flight.
• 44:11
  And again, it's a specific like 5K10K shoe.
• 44:15
  It's super light, it weighs nothing, but it's just more
• 44:17
  minimal. It doesn't have like a big
• 44:18
  massive chunk of foam. And so it's the equivalent of
• 44:21
  like that Adidas Takumi Sen 10 or something like that.
• 44:24
  They're the same sort of category.
• 44:26
  So I wore that and I really, really liked it.
• 44:29
  It was really responsive. The you run the risk of beating
• 44:32
  up your calves because it doesn't give you much back.
• 44:35
  Like it's going to work your legs a little bit more.
• 44:37
  But I feel like for that 5K10K it's worth it because you can
• 44:40
  push off the ground more. So that's the shoe I wore for
• 44:44
  the race. And like, I actually literally
• 44:46
  got it on the Saturday evening. Didn't do any training in it.
• 44:49
  The only first bit of run I'd done was my three minute
• 44:52
  threshold stride at the start. And Mr. Lebrock there then?
• 44:56
  Yeah, yeah. No, I did trust him and he
• 44:58
  actually shouted to him. He ran.
• 45:00
  AI think in that Albert Park 5K there a couple of weeks ago he
• 45:04
  so before he ran his PB was like 1441 he ran 1415 in that Albert
• 45:11
  Park 5K which is freaking phenomenal so I've.
• 45:15
  Seen so many people run so quick there.
• 45:18
  You'd wonder was the course. It definitely wasn't.
• 45:21
  But yeah, no boys are, man. It's just probably perfect
• 45:26
  weather, perfect course, like all the things aligned and like
• 45:32
  he wasn't the only one to. Run fast.
• 45:34
  So I was looking at some of the lads who I would used to finish
• 45:38
  in the round when I'd done the one season of XCR in Melbourne
• 45:42
  or running like waist up 50 and I was just getting dead salty.
• 45:46
  But like in your situation, like you've seen how fast I've sort
• 45:50
  of gotten fit again, it's like it just takes like a month of
• 45:54
  like actually have decent training in your back.
• 45:56
  I've like pretty much done that like the last three years as
• 46:00
  well, even if it wasn't through injury, just through like having
• 46:03
  a month or so off and just like eating what you want and
• 46:06
  whatever and just getting unfit, like almost deliberately because
• 46:09
  I genuinely enjoy the process of like building back and getting
• 46:13
  fitter again. Because sometimes you can like
• 46:15
  plateau a little bit. Can't you all feel like you just
• 46:18
  banging your head against the wall trying to get like half a
• 46:21
  percent fitter? So then when you like just
• 46:24
  taking leaps and bounds, it's just a lot more fun.
• 46:27
  And I feel like every time you like increase the ceiling and
• 46:31
  then bring the floor up, increase the ceiling again,
• 46:33
  bring the floor up. Absolutely, you're 100% right.
• 46:36
  Like your body needs to break so you let it relax, relax and just
• 46:39
  come back stronger. Every single time you see boys
• 46:41
  get injured and they just come back, even better.
• 46:43
  Your body needs the break. Rest is so so so important.
• 46:47
  And then reset as well. Like, as much as we all love it,
• 46:51
  you just do need to switch off a little bit and potentially like
• 46:55
  not be thinking about splits all day every day or like your
• 46:58
  session and all that sort of stuff, isn't it?
• 47:00
  Because you literally revolve your life around it so much for
• 47:04
  so much of the year. So yeah, I know the reset.
• 47:07
  You just need to hit that reset button every now and then.
• 47:09
  And yeah, give your body a break.
• 47:12
  And your head. On on your shoes, how well your
• 47:15
  legs that well, I was going to say the next day, but today.
• 47:18
  Grand. Yeah.
• 47:20
  Grant like a tiny tiny, like it was my first race in ages.
• 47:24
  So they were a tiny bit beat up and I was expecting that like
• 47:27
  nothing crazy. So yeah.
• 47:28
  Or what would recommend them? Well, should I quickly give my
• 47:33
  face? Yeah.
• 47:34
  Absolutely. Training wise, not a lot
• 47:37
  happened. I eventually got sick of well, I
• 47:41
  was like OK, it's been like 5 or 6 weeks now and it's hard to
• 47:44
  tell what's really going on. When I had.
• 47:47
  I don't really have pain walking around, but I know if I go for a
• 47:51
  run, this isn't going to be great.
• 47:52
  Well, that's what I've been thinking.
• 47:53
  And I've reached the point where I'm like, I'm sick of this, not
• 47:56
  trying. Like I want to go for a run and
• 47:58
  find out because it feels OK walking around and stuff.
• 48:02
  So I went for a run half an hour.
• 48:04
  It was fine during the run. And then shit, woke up the next
• 48:07
  day. I was like, wow, yeah, that is
• 48:10
  what it used to feel like. And then I was full of regret.
• 48:13
  Like why didn't do that? So yeah, back to square one it
• 48:18
  feels like. But because I've been on like
• 48:20
  this stupid like trip of wedding here, holiday there, wedding
• 48:25
  wherever, and knowing that potentially even if it was not
• 48:29
  injured, I wouldn't be like following full training weeks,
• 48:33
  I've almost haven't taken it seriously in terms of recovery.
• 48:36
  So I need to just stop being consistent with the rehab which
• 48:41
  I'm flying back to Perth tomorrow.
• 48:43
  So I'll be out of the environment which I'm in here,
• 48:46
  which is like just hard to be consistent and reliable with
• 48:50
  training. So once I'm back in my little
• 48:52
  Perth bubble with only fitness to focus on, I'm going to give
• 48:57
  it a proper effort. Because.
• 48:59
  I am fucking sick of it now I really just want to get back to
• 49:02
  training. Yeah, but like the rest of the
• 49:04
  world are good, genuinely, you'll come back much better and
• 49:08
  you'll get back. You can see the physiograph,
• 49:10
  just put together a plan and just then give it 100% because
• 49:14
  you couldn't have given it 100%. When you're travelling like
• 49:18
  weddings, like what was the stags and all that sort of
• 49:22
  stuff. Like there's no way you could
• 49:24
  have given 100%. So there's no point of doing
• 49:26
  anything half first. Yeah.
• 49:27
  So that's yeah. I mean, no more excuses.
• 49:30
  From now? No.
• 49:31
  Yeah, from Wednesday you're fully accountable.
• 49:36
  So yeah, that's my quick recap. I don't think need to go into
• 49:39
  anything more than that next on the agenda, unless you have
• 49:45
  anything else to add whilst we're there on our weekly
• 49:47
  recaps. Oh shout out to my local Gaelic
• 49:51
  team actually. So after the five mile race my
• 49:56
  Gaelic team we are shit based. Well we have been shit for the
• 49:59
  last since I was born. Since 1998 Mead my local team
• 50:04
  have been absolute shit. I'd say we're the equivalent of
• 50:08
  of the West Coast Eagles and AFL like absolute dog shit.
• 50:12
  However this year we are in an all Ireland semi final now so
• 50:17
  with the quarterfinals the weekend and we bet Galway which
• 50:21
  is another county in Ireland which we were not expected to
• 50:24
  win but we won't bet them by a point and so it is massive like
• 50:29
  this. The first time me have been in
• 50:31
  an Ireland semi final since 2009.
• 50:34
  Hence my little Booker hat I. Was going to ask what that was.
• 50:37
  Yeah, yeah, incredible. So we're playing.
• 50:42
  We are playing Donegal in two weeks time.
• 50:46
  So yeah, I'll be up in Crow Park again watching that.
• 50:50
  But yeah, shout out to me boys. What's their nickname?
• 50:54
  Do they have one? Yeah, the Royals.
• 50:56
  Of the Royals. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.
• 51:00
  Flares and oh man, unbelievable. That atmosphere is so good.
• 51:05
  On like Co power calls, I think it's 82,000 people and like
• 51:10
  there's two games on. So me it was on at 1:45 and then
• 51:13
  there's another game on at 4:00. So it's like 4 groups of fans
• 51:18
  and Oh yeah, it was just incredible atmosphere, like
• 51:22
  incredible. I'd actually I might share
• 51:24
  something to share something easy double story so you can
• 51:27
  like see what it was like and see what it meant to like the
• 51:30
  actual people from where from. It's crazy.
• 51:32
  It actually is crazy. Yeah, yeah.
• 51:34
  Bring us in. Bring us in.
• 51:35
  Yeah, we. Went to Gold Coast.
• 51:38
  Yeah, but lastly, I'm on my week quickly with a YouTube Diaries
• 51:43
  comment because I'm not sure if we'll get to do a full one later
• 51:47
  on the episode because we're this is going on already.
• 51:50
  But during my week I went over to the city centre of Liverpool
• 51:54
  for the first time. Well, first time since I've been
• 51:57
  home and it was such a nice reminder of like how class of a
• 52:01
  city Liverpool is. Like it's a Friday night as well
• 52:04
  in the atmosphere. It's just like insane.
• 52:06
  Like there's live singer. Not like in one bar, in every
• 52:10
  single bar you walk past there's a live singer and it's just like
• 52:12
  booming out. It's been hot.
• 52:15
  So like all the doors and I would like all wide open.
• 52:18
  It's almost like a street party across the whole city.
• 52:22
  But I just went and caught up with some old old mates from an
• 52:26
  old job for food and they aren't runners or fans of the podcast.
• 52:31
  In fact, one of them used to take the piss out of me for the
• 52:35
  podcast. Now he's giving me a YouTube
• 52:38
  recommendation and begging for shelves out.
• 52:41
  So here we go. The YouTube diary comes from
• 52:45
  Ryan Lingley and Steph Lamkin and it's not an actual running
• 52:49
  one, but it does sound quite intriguing.
• 52:51
  I haven't watched it. It's called the The Outside
• 52:53
  Boys, I think, or the Outside Man or something like that.
• 52:56
  Man, no. So, boys, they're gone.
• 52:58
  They're finished. Yeah, yeah.
• 53:00
  That's it actually is crazy. These guys he just don't know
• 53:04
  for go on. You can explain it.
• 53:05
  You can explain it. Well, it sounds like you might
• 53:08
  have seen it, so you can add to the story I give.
• 53:11
  So they're from Alaska, apparently.
• 53:14
  And the content is just like him going and building the glue, or
• 53:18
  like catching a fish from off an iceberg and cooking it, and like
• 53:23
  just all raw authentic Alaska stuff.
• 53:25
  So he's a family. So it was just a family, so a
• 53:28
  father and he's like two sons or something.
• 53:30
  And he just loved the outdoors. So he was like, all right, I'll
• 53:33
  just document it. And it was such an he like found
• 53:36
  a niche in the market. So like Jake in Japan, like it's
• 53:40
  sort of cool seeing what it's like out there.
• 53:42
  This guy found a niche in the market and.
• 53:46
  Alaska. It got it got out of control.
• 53:49
  So he's got some outdoor, he's got a crazy amount of
• 53:55
  subscribers, subscribers now. So yeah, essentially packed it
• 54:00
  in because he's got like 2 famous like and therefore 2 rich
• 54:04
  off it and he's just going to enjoy life basically.
• 54:08
  Like 16.1 million subscribers. So yeah, just got out of
• 54:11
  control. So he couldn't go outside
• 54:12
  anymore. Like fame.
• 54:14
  Like he's just yeah, he couldn't handle the fame.
• 54:17
  Basically that what the channel is after bringing.
• 54:19
  So like he got to a stage where like for YouTube video he's
• 54:23
  making like $1,000,000. Yeah.
• 54:25
  I mean, never mind the fame, he's just cashing in on on his
• 54:29
  all his wealth there and going to live his life.
• 54:30
  And he like, yeah. But yeah, no, it's actually
• 54:34
  really, I haven't watched any videos of them, but I heard
• 54:36
  about him and I heard he's after like calling a day because it
• 54:39
  just got too much. But yeah, it'd be worth a watch.
• 54:44
  It's it's Bear Grylls a level up I think.
• 54:47
  Or a more relatable version of Bear.
• 54:48
  It's more realistic. Yeah, so there we go.
• 54:50
  There's there's YouTube Diaries like different.
• 54:54
  Yeah, Rogue One. So yeah, Gold Coast then they
• 54:57
  got obviously Gold Coast Marathon Half Marathon. 10K5K is
• 55:00
  coming up this weekend, the 5th of July is it or the 6th, 6th
• 55:05
  Sunday, 6th of July. And they've announced their
• 55:08
  elite fields for the marathon, I think for the half as well,
• 55:13
  actually, yeah, we'll start with the marathon because that's the
• 55:17
  whole event is Gold Coast Marathon.
• 55:19
  So on the men's side, the things they've got 21 athletes in the
• 55:23
  elite field now there are 11 of them with APB of sub 210, which
• 55:29
  is makes it an incredibly deep field.
• 55:33
  So the fastest guy is an Ethiopian guy called Ghazaliwa
• 55:37
  Ayana, who's around two O 715. There's then four more, three
• 55:43
  more athletes with two O 7 PBS. So that's a Kenyan Japanese guy,
• 55:49
  Yuki Kawaochi, who's kind of, well, very famous because he won
• 55:53
  Boston one year a little while ago now when it was very rainy
• 55:59
  and he wasn't kind of, I don't think he would have been
• 56:02
  expected to win or compete. He's on his retirement tour.
• 56:06
  Yeah, he's not. He's not going to be running 27
• 56:08
  on Sunday. I think it's safe to say he's
• 56:10
  not. Going to be running 270 and I
• 56:12
  don't think. There's there's two Mongolian
• 56:15
  athletes in the field, which is quite I was.
• 56:18
  Wondering what the flag was? Yeah, well, I mean, I'm just
• 56:21
  assuming the abbreviation MGL equals.
• 56:24
  Oh yeah, yeah. But I mean, they're both sub 209
• 56:27
  athletes as well and I would never have thought that like
• 56:30
  Mongolia produced top athletes like that.
• 56:33
  So fair play to those two would be interesting and see how they
• 56:36
  get on. You've then got a Canadian in
• 56:39
  Thomas Broach 210, an American Josh Izewski 210 and then the
• 56:45
  only Australian in the men's elite field is Rhys Edwards.
• 56:50
  I think everyone or most people will be familiar with him.
• 56:53
  So he won Ballarat Marathon, he's won Melbourne Marathon, he
• 56:58
  done Gold Coast last year. I can't remember what his time
• 57:01
  was. I think it was around 2:15 and
• 57:03
  he has a PB of 213. So be interesting to see how
• 57:07
  Reese gets on there. And then now's time when we give
• 57:10
  our token shout out to him, Mr. Rancher Jatanji, because he's
• 57:15
  not named in the elite field here, but it looks like he
• 57:18
  misses that by about 30 seconds. In terms of PB, he's around 2:14
• 57:23
  and he'll be there lining up on Sunday.
• 57:25
  So if anyone sees him, give him a shout.
• 57:29
  Or if anyone hasn't listened to the interview from last week,
• 57:32
  which based on the numbers, it was by far our most listened to
• 57:35
  episodes. So I imagine most people will
• 57:38
  have. But the feedback we've got from
• 57:40
  that was that people found it like incredibly insightful
• 57:43
  because it's just a bit of a nut case, but a great nut case.
• 57:47
  Come here, his freaking fans are worse.
• 57:50
  If you want entertainment go into his stravas and just look
• 57:54
  at the comments. There's a lad here and it was
• 57:57
  like oh thanks Jake you inspired me to run 300K weeks.
• 58:01
  So this chap is after going from 100 kilometer a week and I kid
• 58:06
  you not last week he ran 300 and like 2 kilometers.
• 58:12
  That's funny. He went for a run last weekend
• 58:15
  on his straw, but he put like got myself for company.
• 58:19
  Thanks for Ryan for the interview on easy double or
• 58:22
  something like that. And some of the comments are
• 58:25
  like so funny but people seem to enjoy that.
• 58:29
  They also seem to enjoy how much research I put into his
• 58:32
  background and his power return. Someone said.
• 58:35
  Someone said why? Why does the guest have a better
• 58:39
  mic than the host? Ouch.
• 58:46
  I don't have the the income from the YouTube platform that the
• 58:50
  house that the guest had. We for people who don't know, we
• 58:55
  are losing money doing this podcast.
• 58:59
  Did you see when you signed into the recording platform that we
• 59:04
  need to pay? I know the lights are going off
• 59:08
  here. Yeah, it's crying.
• 59:15
  We'll we'll pay the bills and we'll be back next.
• 59:18
  Week. We need to set winners and
• 59:22
  races. In the women's field, there are
• 59:26
  13 elite athletes. The top three are Kenyans with
• 59:30
  PBS of 223-220-2224. Again, there's a Mongolian
• 59:36
  athlete, there's quite a few nations here to prefer.
• 59:38
  There's Ethiopian, Hong Kong, Indonesia, and then there are
• 59:42
  three Australian women in this field.
• 59:45
  So we've got Millie Clark who has the fastest PB of the three
• 59:49
  Australians and two 2659. I'm pretty sure she'd done it
• 59:53
  last year as well because the name rings a bell.
• 59:56
  We've got Rochelle de Massey of WA.
• 1:00:01
  So Rochelle has APB of two 3445. I'm not sure if she'll be
• 1:00:06
  looking to better that PB this weekend or if this is just kind
• 1:00:09
  of like obviously just a big destination race for her, but I
• 1:00:14
  know that she has been training pretty hard for it so.
• 1:00:17
  Western Australians, keep your eyes out for Rochelle and her
• 1:00:20
  result there and give her a good cheer.
• 1:00:23
  And then the last one is Ella McCartney, who I think won
• 1:00:26
  Ballarat Marathon last year in two 3843 is her PB.
• 1:00:31
  It's. Pretty decent, yeah, but I
• 1:00:34
  think. But it looks like they put all
• 1:00:35
  their money into the half marathon.
• 1:00:37
  Mate, the the men's field is quality isn't it?
• 1:00:43
  It's scary, man. The women's field as well.
• 1:00:45
  So the men's field, you've got Anna Buchanan, Brett Robinson.
• 1:00:49
  Anna Buchanan is an hour flat, Brett Robinson, National record
• 1:00:53
  5957. Then you've got 5 Japanese guys
• 1:00:58
  with an hour PB. Then you've got Isaac Kane, Lean
• 1:01:02
  Boudin, Sam Clifford, Joel Tobin White, Tom Dicanto.
• 1:01:06
  Like it is incredibly stacked. That's.
• 1:01:10
  Yeah, I who are you calling? Then I'd love to see Brett win
• 1:01:15
  it. You know, I don't know why I've
• 1:01:16
  got like a bit of a soft spot for him, especially like the
• 1:01:19
  little comeback that he's on. Yeah, and I thought when we got
• 1:01:22
  to talk to him in Japan, I he just, I know he came across so
• 1:01:26
  genuine and like, you just want to root for him.
• 1:01:28
  You want him to win. Yeah, he's so like down to earth
• 1:01:31
  and like just one of the lads almost, isn't he?
• 1:01:33
  Yeah. So yeah, I'm Team Brett as well.
• 1:01:36
  And do you know what the weather's like for the race?
• 1:01:38
  Is it looking good or? Haven't looked to be fair.
• 1:01:41
  I mean, I know that would that will be a big factor because it
• 1:01:44
  can still be a little bit warm there, can't it, But.
• 1:01:48
  I think, I think it's just humid.
• 1:01:50
  I think the weather's are, it's just humid.
• 1:01:52
  Yeah. I mean, Saturday, it says, is
• 1:01:54
  lows of 12, highs of 21, sunny and cloudy.
• 1:01:57
  Sunday, lows of 15, highs of 21. So yeah, potentially a little
• 1:02:01
  bit humid there, which isn't ideal.
• 1:02:05
  So then the women's one, you've got Leanne Pampiani, the fastest
• 1:02:09
  in the field with a 69 O1 PB, then Jess Stenson 3 seconds
• 1:02:14
  behind her. Then you've got 2 Japanese women
• 1:02:16
  that have run identical PBS. Actually.
• 1:02:19
  Tara, Pam, Caitlin Adams, Sarah Klein, Abigail Nordberg, Lauren
• 1:02:24
  Reed, Vanessa Wilson Wilson. You've got a Chinese woman and
• 1:02:29
  then two more Japanese. So yeah, PBS ranging from 69 to
• 1:02:33
  73. So again, another stocked field.
• 1:02:37
  Who would you have, Leanne or Jess?
• 1:02:39
  I'm going to take Leanne because I know Jess has been racing
• 1:02:44
  quite a lot recently on a bit of, I want to say cash grab, but
• 1:02:49
  she hasn't been doing like the the crazy fast races and where
• 1:02:53
  she would have been running PBS, but she's been going round
• 1:02:56
  cleaning up a lot of domestic local races.
• 1:02:59
  So I'm not too sure what Leanne's been doing since the
• 1:03:03
  Nagoya Marathon in her debut, but I'm sure that she will have
• 1:03:07
  been putting in like a big block and potentially she's been
• 1:03:10
  working towards this race for a while.
• 1:03:13
  Yeah, I'd probably go Leanne as well.
• 1:03:15
  I can't see, we don't know what the Japanese women, the Japanese
• 1:03:17
  women could come out fighting. But yeah, I can't see past
• 1:03:21
  Leanne. Hopefully she gets that PB with
• 1:03:23
  no annoying me so much. That's 69 O1.
• 1:03:25
  You'd be itching to get under under 69.
• 1:03:28
  Nice, wouldn't it? And I think they're they're in
• 1:03:30
  with the men anyway, aren't they?
• 1:03:31
  Like it's a mixed field. So it's not though Leanne and
• 1:03:35
  Jess are going to be like out on their own leading just the
• 1:03:38
  women's race. They're going to be sat in
• 1:03:40
  amongst the the men as well, so there could be potential for
• 1:03:44
  fast times there. Do you know the men's fields?
• 1:03:48
  You know Joel Tobin White, Do you know he would have ran that
• 1:03:51
  PB 6-7 years ago? What it have been?
• 1:03:54
  Yeah, it was. I think it was in Japan
• 1:03:55
  somewhere. I can't remember which one.
• 1:03:57
  I'm like, I, I don't know if I'd be putting that PB down unless
• 1:04:02
  he's in that shape because it's been so long.
• 1:04:03
  Ago, I mean true, but you don't know what the package for being
• 1:04:09
  in the elite field might have gotten like a free hotel and
• 1:04:12
  like. He definitely did.
• 1:04:13
  Yeah, I'll tell. He was meant to do the marathon.
• 1:04:16
  He was wasn't. He was in.
• 1:04:17
  There was another marathon debut attempt.
• 1:04:21
  Has gone to 1/2. I'm just going to pull up the
• 1:04:24
  Melbourne half results from last year because I know that Izzy,
• 1:04:28
  Leanne and Jeff's were kind of like 123 Sprint finish, weren't
• 1:04:33
  they? And I can't remember which order
• 1:04:35
  it was. Oh, so Leanne won from Jeff's
• 1:04:38
  from Izzy. So yeah, we're we're back in
• 1:04:42
  Leanne to kind of double down on that and just not to be able to
• 1:04:46
  reverse that. But who knows?
• 1:04:48
  It's it's not clear either way. So we'll see.
• 1:04:50
  But. Yeah, no.
• 1:04:52
  So that's this weekend. Annoyingly, this is where, I
• 1:04:56
  mean, Dean would have been good at various points throughout
• 1:04:59
  this episode, but Dean would have been good for this because
• 1:05:02
  there's obviously quite a few front runner guys going over to
• 1:05:05
  do Gold Coast and because you've been in Ireland, I've been over
• 1:05:09
  here for six weeks. I haven't even been on straw
• 1:05:12
  either, so I haven't seen who's kind of training for it and
• 1:05:15
  stuff. But I know Adam Lamb was, wasn't
• 1:05:19
  he? I know.
• 1:05:20
  Oh shit, I thought of someone else earlier.
• 1:05:26
  But yeah, big up to the front runner crew heading over as
• 1:05:29
  well. I know that the guys from the WA
• 1:05:34
  running. Podcast the War.
• 1:05:36
  They've been targeting it for a while now as well, so keen to
• 1:05:39
  see how they get on. They've got some big goals and
• 1:05:42
  they've been trained. About, too.
• 1:05:45
  That's always a good weekend. Like, out of all the races I've
• 1:05:47
  done, that Gold Coast Marathon weekend is like the highlight.
• 1:05:51
  It was so good. The crowd is on top.
• 1:05:54
  Yeah. It's just, yeah, unreal.
• 1:05:56
  It's mad that I don't know if we've shared this with listeners
• 1:05:58
  before, but before me, Dean and Owen actually met each other in
• 1:06:03
  Perth. We were all at Gold Coast
• 1:06:06
  Festival last year. Dean and I have done the half
• 1:06:09
  and I've done the marathon. I've done the 10K.
• 1:06:12
  Oh, you've done 10K? Sorry.
• 1:06:14
  Yeah. So we've all done three
• 1:06:15
  different races there. Did you and Dean, did you speak
• 1:06:18
  to Dean there? No, no, no.
• 1:06:21
  Didn't know him. And likewise, I didn't speak to
• 1:06:24
  either of you either. So it's funny how things work,
• 1:06:27
  isn't it? It's.
• 1:06:28
  Crazy. We were all there, but we didn't
• 1:06:30
  know each other. Look at this now.
• 1:06:34
  I've got a couple of items in terms of news or talking points
• 1:06:39
  here. So did you see that Nike in line
• 1:06:42
  with the breaking four thing kind of dropped the Vomero
• 1:06:45
  Premium and the Vomero Plus line of the shoes?
• 1:06:49
  They are that shoes, aren't they?
• 1:06:52
  Yeah. Which one is the one with the
• 1:06:54
  biggest stack? Is it the premium?
• 1:06:56
  Premium, yeah, with two that's got 2 air pods in it.
• 1:06:59
  I think I'm glad they brought the plus out because that looks
• 1:07:02
  like a pretty ideal replacement for the Invincible because I
• 1:07:06
  used to love the Invincibles as like an everyday trainer.
• 1:07:09
  It looks very similar in terms of how it's built.
• 1:07:14
  I think that was their plan though to just make push them
• 1:07:16
  into one and just three different like versions.
• 1:07:20
  And I seen Connor man saying, I mean, he's a Nike athlete, his
• 1:07:24
  niece who's literally paid to say this, who's not going to say
• 1:07:26
  that the rubbish. But he said that the plus, which
• 1:07:30
  is kind of like you've got the Vimero as the baseline, then you
• 1:07:33
  have the plus, then you have the premium.
• 1:07:35
  And he said that the plus is the perfect amount of kind of
• 1:07:39
  cushion and responsiveness for like a daily trainer for him.
• 1:07:43
  Oh. Nice.
• 1:07:44
  I would have compared that. So wait, would you compare that
• 1:07:47
  to the Super Blast from ASIC? No.
• 1:07:49
  I don't think it's potentially as versatile as that, Yeah.
• 1:07:54
  I'd say it's more of an invincible with like a tiny bit
• 1:07:57
  of spring or something in it. Still a good shoe, yeah?
• 1:08:00
  Do you know how much what their retailers?
• 1:08:03
  Haven't seen, to be fair. You don't need to driven out yet
• 1:08:06
  on sale. For Australian listeners, I
• 1:08:09
  mean, I don't know how it compares in Ireland, but
• 1:08:10
  definitely in the UK the price of fuse is a lot more when you
• 1:08:14
  do the currency conversion. It's bizarre.
• 1:08:16
  I don't understand it. It's absolutely crazy.
• 1:08:19
  For reference, a pair of freaking alpha flies could be
• 1:08:25
  €300 and they're like $330. Yeah, it's obscene. €1.00 gets
• 1:08:31
  you 1.5 dollars. It works out at like $500 if
• 1:08:36
  you're convert. It's crazy.
• 1:08:38
  Yeah, so if anyone's, if any Australians are doing a European
• 1:08:41
  Tour, don't be buying shoes in the UK or Ireland.
• 1:08:43
  It's not going to be any cheaper.
• 1:08:45
  And if you're coming to Ireland, let me know and I'll put in a
• 1:08:47
  little shopping list. Thank you.
• 1:08:53
  Secondly, on on my list, I don't know if it may have been
• 1:08:57
  deliberate, probably wasn't deliberate, but we
• 1:09:02
  illegitimately got a shout out from Izzy on a podcast last week
• 1:09:06
  because she was guest house and she said that she went for an
• 1:09:09
  easy double. I actually seen that as a.
• 1:09:15
  Like, go on, Izzy. We'll take it.
• 1:09:20
  Did you see Jacob has been quoted in the week?
• 1:09:23
  He's obviously about to make his return.
• 1:09:26
  I don't think he's making pre, but we'll, we'll cover that.
• 1:09:29
  But he's I think he's over his injury now and he's back in like
• 1:09:32
  full training. And he said he wants to be the
• 1:09:35
  best runner to ever exist. Now that is a serious statement,
• 1:09:39
  isn't it? But like, that's a man with
• 1:09:41
  intent. I love Jacob, he's so funny,
• 1:09:45
  he's so good. He's going to be, he's going to
• 1:09:47
  be there for the world, isn't he?
• 1:09:49
  I can't wait to see how that unfolds.
• 1:09:51
  Like I don't want to wish these next couple of months of track
• 1:09:54
  action away but like shit I can't wait for that.
• 1:09:56
  And like we're saying about like time off, getting injured,
• 1:09:59
  coming back better, like he's had a nice little bit of time
• 1:10:02
  off there and he's just, I think he's going to time out perfect
• 1:10:05
  to be peeking. For worlds just shows, yeah,
• 1:10:08
  next. I've seen the Turkey a bid for
• 1:10:11
  the Olympics and I don't know what year it is.
• 1:10:13
  I don't know what year we're up to.
• 1:10:15
  So we've got obviously LA, then Brisbane potentially this next
• 1:10:19
  one that Turkey are bidding for could be after that 2036 or they
• 1:10:23
  could even confirm that. But anyway, the bid for the
• 1:10:25
  Olympics and then something about the BOA athletes of
• 1:10:30
  Jamaica for like $500,000 each athlete who are going to
• 1:10:36
  represent Turkey and try and like win medals for them.
• 1:10:40
  I don't really understand how it how it works.
• 1:10:43
  But the corruption that goes on in football with like the the
• 1:10:49
  World Cup hosting and FIFA. I mean, I don't know, could be
• 1:10:54
  barking up the wrong tree here, but it doesn't sound too
• 1:10:57
  legitimate in terms of like taking athletes from Jamaica.
• 1:11:02
  I'm sure they've taken a load of Kenyan athletes as well.
• 1:11:04
  Yeah, in history, but yeah, look.
• 1:11:09
  Sebastian Sawway confirmed he's going to Berlin this awesome
• 1:11:14
  slash spring. Depending on which continent the
• 1:11:16
  world you're on. But the question is will he be
• 1:11:20
  targeting a world record or not? Because obviously Berlin is
• 1:11:23
  notoriously fast and he already has APB of 202 from debut.
• 1:11:29
  I wouldn't put it past them. He's got, I think he's been
• 1:11:32
  asked about it in like kind of announcing that he's doing it
• 1:11:36
  and he's acknowledged that it's a thing like, but he's trying to
• 1:11:40
  play it down and said it's kind of, it's too early to talk about
• 1:11:44
  world records. But if you knew that it was
• 1:11:47
  going to be completely off the charts, you'd be like, no, no,
• 1:11:49
  no, I'm just going to turn up and race the field, blah, blah.
• 1:11:52
  So that could be a fast one. Excited to see what happens
• 1:11:56
  there. The Sydney field got a whole lot
• 1:12:00
  crazier in the past few days, hasn't it?
• 1:12:03
  Man, Stefano San is rocking up to Sydney.
• 1:12:06
  What? It's unbelievable.
• 1:12:08
  So like everyone thought they'd blown the budget on Kipchogi and
• 1:12:11
  then they've just announced like the rest of them, which is just,
• 1:12:16
  it's not like, I don't want to say like the best field in the
• 1:12:18
  world, but it's a very deep field all around men and women.
• 1:12:23
  Want some them two or have to get a payday at London?
• 1:12:26
  They all they need to run is 2 races a year, maybe 2 marathons
• 1:12:29
  and they're set. So you've got in the women's
• 1:12:31
  field, Sufan Hassan, who obviously we know about her,
• 1:12:35
  she's athlete across multiple distances.
• 1:12:39
  The woman who's she's got PB of 213, the woman who has the
• 1:12:44
  second fastest PB, Bridget Cosgy also has just played across the
• 1:12:50
  board. So she's the former world record
• 1:12:52
  holder, Olympic silver medalist, won five majors.
• 1:12:56
  There's a woman called working Asia Desa with a period 2/17.
• 1:13:01
  She won Sydney last year, has the Aussie all comers record.
• 1:13:06
  And then you've got the Australians of Jeff Stenson
• 1:13:11
  whose Commonwealth Games gold medalist, 2 time Olympian, Lisa
• 1:13:14
  Wightman, four time Olympian, 2 time com Games medalist and
• 1:13:19
  Leanne Pompiani, Scouse accent coming out with me by accident.
• 1:13:24
  Leanne Pompiani, Leanne Pompiani lad.
• 1:13:30
  Leanne Pompiani with the PBA 224 on debut with the Aussie debut
• 1:13:36
  marathon record. So it's great from an
• 1:13:40
  international perspective and it's potentially like even
• 1:13:42
  better from a domestic perspective and just shows that
• 1:13:46
  Sydney offering the all Australian prize money is paying
• 1:13:50
  off. It's crazy that like, Dean could
• 1:13:52
  be running in a race with Kip Jogi.
• 1:13:54
  May I hope he does it, you know, But also I hope he does.
• 1:13:57
  I hope he does Valencia and gets like the time that he deserves.
• 1:14:02
  Well, what I feel like he deserves.
• 1:14:04
  Yeah, he is due. Ballerat does not do justice of
• 1:14:08
  the shape he's in, and neither does Maragami.
• 1:14:11
  He he's due a big one and it's it's going to come.
• 1:14:15
  If you can get on that Valencia start line in half the shape
• 1:14:20
  that you can get himself in, he's he'll have a big run.
• 1:14:22
  So yeah. I'm going to try and get out to
• 1:14:25
  Valencia for that weekend. It'd.
• 1:14:27
  Be unbelievable. And then lastly, I think we've
• 1:14:30
  got the pre track meet coming up this weekend in Eugene and I
• 1:14:36
  think you have the field Owen or some of the fields.
• 1:14:39
  Yeah, we'll fly through this one.
• 1:14:41
  So the Bareman Bowerman Mile is the standout headline race.
• 1:14:46
  So you've got the two Chariots, Randall Chariot, Timothy
• 1:14:50
  Chariot, Grant Fisher, Neil Gourley, Aberdeen Hadds, Olli,
• 1:14:55
  Herr Cole Hawker, Hobbs Kessler, Abel Kipsang, Fetus Legat, Niels
• 1:15:01
  Laros, Michelle Ailey, Cam Meyers, Stefan Nielsen, Jaren
• 1:15:05
  the Goose and Jake Whiteman. Every single one of them guys
• 1:15:10
  could run sub 3:30. It is outrageous.
• 1:15:15
  With how the 1500's been brewing as well, this is just it's going
• 1:15:19
  to be madness. Yeah, and just for reference, so
• 1:15:22
  that's the Bareman mile, that's the headline.
• 1:15:25
  There's a little men's international mile before that
• 1:15:28
  for the people that couldn't get into it and the likes of Sam
• 1:15:32
  Ruth from New Zealand, he's like 15 still in school back kids
• 1:15:37
  running, Adam Spencer is running, Sam Tanner from New
• 1:15:41
  Zealand is running. And Cooper Tier, like them guys
• 1:15:44
  are unbelievable. And they couldn't even get in to
• 1:15:46
  that like elite men's field, which it's just nuts.
• 1:15:50
  It's crazy. We'll go to the women's 15.
• 1:15:53
  Yeah, the women's 15. I'll just pick out a few of the
• 1:15:56
  big names. You have at least Cranny, you've
• 1:15:58
  got Heylu from Ethiopia, you've got Sarah Healy from Ireland,
• 1:16:02
  Nikki Hills from the USA, and they who should not be named
• 1:16:06
  Houlihan from the USA, Jess Hall from Australia, Georgia Bell,
• 1:16:11
  Georgia Hunter Bell from England, Sage Clacker from USA,
• 1:16:16
  Sinclair Johnson from USA, Fake UPA Gun from Kenya.
• 1:16:21
  Could be in. Could be a 1500 world record
• 1:16:24
  there. Yeah, that is fast.
• 1:16:28
  Again, like it's outrageous, the standard.
• 1:16:33
  Yeah, Face could well run the world record there.
• 1:16:36
  There's a women's 5K as well. You've got good aft SIGAI to be
• 1:16:41
  honest. You've got how many people in
• 1:16:43
  this field? 246810121416182022 You've got 24
• 1:16:51
  people in 5000 meter field you have there's AUSA that when he
• 1:16:57
  is that Kilteji, do you know that little one from Under
• 1:17:01
  Armour? Oh yeah.
• 1:17:03
  She's there, that German one Konstein cluster halfin her.
• 1:17:10
  She's in a Beatrice Chabet Janet Chefton Getich again.
• 1:17:16
  It's going to be ridiculously fast, like 14 low fast.
• 1:17:21
  The majority is made-up by Kenya and Ethiopia.
• 1:17:24
  There's AI, don't know if there's a women's 10K, but
• 1:17:27
  there's a men's 10K with an insanely stacked field made-up
• 1:17:30
  of like the best African 10K runners on the planet, plus
• 1:17:34
  Conor Mance. Was it last year that Kenya used
• 1:17:38
  this as a Kenyan trial for the Olympics?
• 1:17:41
  Potentially. I think they did, yeah.
• 1:17:45
  But again, there's like the guts of like 18 athletes, all Kenya
• 1:17:48
  and Ethiopia. And then you've got little
• 1:17:50
  Connor Mance stuck in there who will definitely be up near the
• 1:17:54
  front. You've got Solomon, Berrega,
• 1:17:57
  Aragawi. I hate to keep Brio's Kip Sangs.
• 1:18:02
  They're saying some of those Africans may Connor may carry
• 1:18:06
  Connor to AUS record there. Yeah, it's definitely.
• 1:18:10
  That's all he's going for, 100% What is the US record?
• 1:18:13
  He seems to just be in like incredible shape year round,
• 1:18:17
  doesn't he? I don't know how he does it.
• 1:18:19
  Like his ability to train hard and like consistent is second to
• 1:18:23
  none. But he doesn't.
• 1:18:25
  I think they take a full day off as well every week.
• 1:18:27
  Yeah, so part of it, weren't it? Yeah, but yeah, I don't know how
• 1:18:32
  you can even watch this event because it's definitely behind a
• 1:18:36
  paywall. 2633 potentially is the US 10 K 10,000 meter record.
• 1:18:43
  Grant Fisher is it? I will be wearing it.
• 1:18:47
  Lastly on the Instagram. We had a couple of thoughts come
• 1:18:51
  through when I've opened it up for questions and stuff.
• 1:18:55
  If we've got any thoughts on Dead Cow Gully, I'm actually not
• 1:18:58
  sure what that is. So I'm going to do my research
• 1:19:00
  after this. And now it's some kind of race
• 1:19:03
  slash event in Australia, an ultra marathon event, but out of
• 1:19:08
  backyard ultra. On the subject of backyard
• 1:19:11
  ultra, we should pay respect and acknowledge that Phil Gore, the
• 1:19:15
  WA athlete, broke the world record of backyard ultras.
• 1:19:19
  And now we've kind of been a little bit controversial in our
• 1:19:22
  opinions on them. But he ran, I think it was 119
• 1:19:26
  yards, which quickly for those who don't know, backyard ultra
• 1:19:30
  is you run around 6K on the hour, every hour until you are
• 1:19:34
  the last man standing. And he ran 119 of them, which
• 1:19:38
  meant it ran from Sunday to Thursday.
• 1:19:43
  It's just obscene. Wow, when you put it like that.
• 1:19:46
  So 119 * 6 is some disgusting #714km / 4 days with hard games
• 1:19:59
  week besides like 10 minute power naps here and there.
• 1:20:02
  It's just I physically can't comprehend that.
• 1:20:05
  Like it's a different world to me.
• 1:20:08
  Yeah, I won't be doing that many times soon.
• 1:20:11
  Dean will probably rock up to 1. Yeah, there'll be like a 2 grand
• 1:20:15
  payday somewhere and Dean will find it and.
• 1:20:24
  This is a post recording little add on because Simon from the WA
• 1:20:28
  Running podcast, Rosen and he asked when things you say to
• 1:20:33
  yourself, when the when it gets, when the going gets hard in a
• 1:20:36
  marathon. And well, firstly,
• 1:20:39
  congratulations on anyone who is doing Gold Coast on Sunday and
• 1:20:42
  you've made it this far because the hard work is done.
• 1:20:45
  Secondly, that's a it's a great line of thought during this week
• 1:20:49
  because I guess it shows that you're prepared to suffer and
• 1:20:53
  you're thinking about every eventuality.
• 1:20:55
  Like what will I do if if it doesn't go to plan And like I'm
• 1:20:58
  in the trenches during that last 10K.
• 1:21:02
  So I mean, I've only done 3. So arguably not the best place
• 1:21:05
  to advise on this. But obviously things have got
• 1:21:08
  tough for me in the past and I've I've tried to battle
• 1:21:10
  through it. So it's also important to
• 1:21:13
  acknowledge that it should feel easy or very comfortable for the
• 1:21:17
  first half. And then after that is when you
• 1:21:20
  start to go to work and when you might be drawing on these
• 1:21:22
  mantras or as Deeks described it at last year's Gold Coast.
• 1:21:26
  I'm not sure if he'll be doing the speech again, but I hope he
• 1:21:28
  does because he gave the best fire up ever.
• 1:21:32
  I don't know where he found the energy at 6/15, 6:00 AM in the
• 1:21:36
  pitch dark. But yeah, him on that stand was
• 1:21:39
  unbelievable. So he said the marathon begins
• 1:21:41
  at 30K in an incredibly dramatic voice.
• 1:21:45
  So yeah, that's where you need to be concentrated and ready to
• 1:21:49
  go to war. What I would say to answer the
• 1:21:52
  question is remember the training that you've done.
• 1:21:55
  So think about those dark, cold mornings in the middle of your
• 1:22:00
  massive training weeks. We've somehow found something
• 1:22:03
  within you to complete a big nasty session.
• 1:22:07
  Remember those sessions which filled you with fear on paper
• 1:22:10
  and by the end of them, you walked away confident, knowing
• 1:22:13
  that your goal was achievable? Like draw upon those feelings of
• 1:22:18
  confidence throughout your training because the work has
• 1:22:22
  been done. So when you get tired, then you
• 1:22:25
  you feel that your form is starting to go.
• 1:22:27
  Think about cadence. So like keeping those legs
• 1:22:30
  turning over quick, quick, quick.
• 1:22:32
  Think about picking your knees up so that you stride doesn't
• 1:22:35
  shorten too much. So what I would say is like
• 1:22:38
  being concentrated or being present in the moment during
• 1:22:42
  that last 10K is very important because as much as you want to
• 1:22:47
  distract yourself from the pain, if you drift off too much,
• 1:22:50
  that's where the time can just fall away from you.
• 1:22:52
  So in the first half, you're going to be tapered, you're
• 1:22:56
  going to be fueled, you're going to be like flying.
• 1:22:58
  It should come relatively easy to you.
• 1:23:01
  So that's where trying to distract yourself from just
• 1:23:03
  taking it all in, enjoying it is good.
• 1:23:05
  But then when it gets tough, you want to really like dial in the
• 1:23:10
  concentration levels as Ref says, fear and anxiety in one
• 1:23:15
  hand and hopes and dreams in the other.
• 1:23:17
  And you have to allow them to coexist.
• 1:23:19
  So at different points throughout the race, you're
• 1:23:21
  going to feel awful, you're going to doubt yourself, you're
• 1:23:24
  going to think, I can't do this. You're going to want to stop at
• 1:23:26
  over points during the race. You're going to think, shit, I'm
• 1:23:29
  on PB, going to break my goal. This is easy, I'm flying.
• 1:23:34
  And you just have to allow all of that to exist at the same
• 1:23:38
  time or in the same race. You need to be the middle ground
• 1:23:42
  and like the the realism between it and you have to acknowledge
• 1:23:46
  it when it comes. But then try to centre yourself
• 1:23:49
  and realign. And hopefully at the end of the
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  day, you'll lean slightly more towards the hopes and dreams and
• 1:23:54
  you will have a great performance.
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  So if you're in that last 10K is getting painfully horrible and
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  lots of people work off 5K splits or two or three K splits
• 1:24:07
  during the marathon just because it's so long.
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  And if you don't case it would be so many and you don't, well
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  arguably you don't need that feedback every 3456 minutes,
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  whatever it may be. But if you are working off like
• 1:24:19
  2K3K5K split, perhaps just start to manually split your watch K
• 1:24:25
  by K, break it down and just make the goal posts that bit
• 1:24:28
  closer and shorter. Because if you are starting to
• 1:24:32
  drift and you're, let's say for example, you're targeting sub
• 1:24:35
  three hours, which is I think 4:15 or around there per
• 1:24:40
  kilometer. And if you're working off a 5K
• 1:24:42
  split. So you just look, you're looking
• 1:24:44
  at your watch, you're getting the split every 5K and you're
• 1:24:47
  hoping to see 2115 or around there.
• 1:24:50
  If you're starting to hurt and tire, that 2115 could easily
• 1:24:55
  come up 23 minutes and by that point it's almost too late to
• 1:24:59
  rectify it. Like you've got a minute 45 to
• 1:25:02
  catch up and you're only getting more tired and more fatigued.
• 1:25:05
  If instead of working off the 5K split, you just go K by K by K,
• 1:25:11
  the first one, you might see a 420 or you might see a 425, but
• 1:25:16
  you've then got the opportunity to do something about it and to
• 1:25:19
  try and like squeeze it down as minimal as you can.
• 1:25:23
  So rather than running four 30s or 430 fives over the 5K split
• 1:25:29
  without realizing, you might just squeeze out some 418, some
• 1:25:33
  420 ones. And you can kind of just be a
• 1:25:36
  bit more deliberate with it in terms of any mantras which I've
• 1:25:39
  used because I know some people use these like just kind of a
• 1:25:43
  couple of words to draw upon and just like keep repeating.
• 1:25:47
  They don't really have to mean anything.
• 1:25:49
  But if you are in the moment enough to be able to think about
• 1:25:53
  these, it can just help kind of almost repeat them to yourself
• 1:25:57
  as you take in each footstep. So I remember 1 I used them.
• 1:26:00
  A first one, I don't know where it came from.
• 1:26:03
  I think I just thought of it one day in training was fit fast,
• 1:26:06
  strong, fit fast, strong. And it's just kind of that like
• 1:26:09
  positive reinforcement to yourself.
• 1:26:11
  Or for example, at Ballarat, I remember RAF was on the sideline
• 1:26:16
  and I think this was like race specific to the day and kind of
• 1:26:21
  how it played out. But he kept saying position in
• 1:26:25
  patients fuelling. And it was just that reminder to
• 1:26:28
  like allow the race to come to you and just keep getting your
• 1:26:32
  gels in, keep getting your gels down and just stay calm and stay
• 1:26:35
  relaxed because it's it's such a long time that you're out there
• 1:26:39
  for you. You really do just need to stay
• 1:26:41
  calm. And what else I would think
• 1:26:44
  about is obviously when you're struggling, when you're hurting,
• 1:26:48
  whatever result you get out of this, like if you can dig in now
• 1:26:52
  and grind it out, nobody can ever take it away from you.
• 1:26:55
  Like it lasts forever. You may go on to run faster than
• 1:26:59
  it, and hopefully that is the case.
• 1:27:01
  But if this is your PB for life, then that's it.
• 1:27:04
  It's not like it's going to be rubbed out after five years that
• 1:27:07
  this is an achievement for lifetime.
• 1:27:09
  So try to draw on that. Think about what you've
• 1:27:11
  sacrificed during training. So to get to this position, I'm
• 1:27:16
  sure many people will have sacrificed social events,
• 1:27:18
  perhaps things with family. So just kind of think about what
• 1:27:22
  you've put in to give yourself this opportunity to perform.
• 1:27:26
  Think about who you want to make proud.
• 1:27:27
  Like you might be doing it for a certain family member, a child,
• 1:27:31
  whatever. If that is the case, then think
• 1:27:34
  about them. Ultimately, there's there's no
• 1:27:37
  pressure from anyone else. All of the pressure that you
• 1:27:39
  might feel just comes from yourself.
• 1:27:41
  Because at the end of the day, yeah, people might like see your
• 1:27:45
  result and think one thing or the other, but no one's really
• 1:27:47
  that bothered. Like it's all for yourself and
• 1:27:50
  to satisfy what you think and what you know you're capable of
• 1:27:54
  and what you deserve. Like times just a number and the
• 1:27:58
  achievement is in the completion itself.
• 1:28:01
  So like those who've done a marathon knows what it feels
• 1:28:04
  like to cross that finish line. And sometimes regardless of
• 1:28:08
  whether it's a PB or not, the feeling of finishing is still
• 1:28:12
  just like an emotional release. So if you are hurt and then it
• 1:28:16
  does get tough, just think about crossing that finish line during
• 1:28:20
  that last part of the race. There's going to be people
• 1:28:22
  falling off and blowing up everywhere.
• 1:28:25
  So if you're not part of a group, then just use the next
• 1:28:28
  person in front of you to put a target on the back and just reel
• 1:28:32
  yourself in. Essentially like shooting a bow
• 1:28:35
  and arrow with a string attached to it.
• 1:28:38
  And then you just pull yourself in.
• 1:28:39
  And lastly, one which I've used in the past is asking yourself,
• 1:28:44
  how much do you want it? This.
• 1:28:45
  That's one I've used in training before, like when you're trying
• 1:28:48
  to go out at half five in the morning, 6:00 AM in the cold or
• 1:28:52
  in the wet in the dark. All you have to do is say to
• 1:28:55
  yourself, how much do you want it?
• 1:28:56
  And then bang you there fired up because you know you do want it.
• 1:29:00
  You know what you've done to get to this point.
• 1:29:03
  So if you can just ask yourself that question when it gets
• 1:29:06
  tough, how much do you want it? Guarantee your body and your
• 1:29:10
  brain will answer in actions and it'll just, it'll get you there.
• 1:29:15
  So that was my one piece of an answer.
• 1:29:18
  I'm sure Dean would have been able to add some value to this
• 1:29:21
  as well. But yeah, good luck everyone for
• 1:29:24
  the Gold Coast this weekend and I hope the mantras come through.
• 1:29:29
  And I think that is US done. For the week.
• 1:29:32
  So guys, if you're still listening and you've stayed the
• 1:29:35
  whole way through, if you don't follow us on Instagram, easy
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• 1:29:40
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• 1:29:43
  It'd be very well received because someone's gone on there
• 1:29:46
  and given us a non five star review because we now sit at 4.4
• 1:29:50
  stars. No way.
• 1:29:53
  I mean if you're doing it for banter it's not that much
• 1:29:58
  banter, but if it's your honest opinion then I guess that's
• 1:30:03
  fine. If he is like the interview
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  series and send us a message and see who you like, let us know
• 1:30:10
  he's want to get on because I don't know how we got Jake
• 1:30:12
  Barclough on, but yeah, look, you never know who we can get
• 1:30:16
  on. Yeah, let's keep it realistic,
• 1:30:18
  but let's shoot for the stars. I reckon we've got a couple of
• 1:30:22
  candidates up our sleeve who we will reach out to.
• 1:30:26
  Yeah. We'll leave Khichogi for the
• 1:30:28
  when he comes to Sydney with them.
• 1:30:30
  We'll interview him then. Yeah, we'll just say speak to
• 1:30:32
  him in person. Hey.
• 1:30:34
  Yeah. All right.
• 1:30:37
  Thanks guys. Cheers.
• 1:30:40
  Ciao. Good luck.